Thread 541907974

Remember that you can dislike stuff without making it part of your personality. Report and ignore shitposters that only spam and argue in bad faith.
/ffg/ spam filter: https://pastebin.com/SJ1sb9r0

>General Info on Final Fantasy
https://finalfantasy.fandom.com

>What version should I play?
http://pastebin.com/nDC7j5bn

>Final Fantasy Pixel Remaster Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdLsIQEGj-E

>Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice Chronicles
https://youtu.be/JRIElEOQa4c?si=d0hEChixTBdlYy_w

>Final Fantasy XVI Info
https://na.finalfantasyxvi.com
>Launch Trailer "Salvation"
https://youtu.be/_CrV3hkJuvs
>DLC
https://youtu.be/RecsFD6SWfc
https://youtu.be/aveDvd66xlk
>PC Trailer
https://youtu.be/LBqpFlA_4s

>Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
https://youtu.be/WgdkN2tCAFw
https://youtu.be/Q56cRDseTG

>Final Fantasy VII Ever Crisis
https://youtu.be/afTX-30KkaE
>Dissidia Final Fantasy Opera Omnia
https://www.youtube.com/@DFFOperaOmnia
>Final Fantasy Brave Exvius: War of the Visions
https://pastebin.com/1yvynbW8
>Final Fantasy Brave Exvius
https://pastebin.com/mwANP4fD

>Final Fantasy XI
http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/index.shtml

Previous thread: >>541671279

>>541907974 (OP)
You forgot to include the Sopranos info

Some people really need to figure out that you can dislike stuff without making it part of your personality. You don't have to go out of your way to remind everyone every time it comes up, and argue with anyone who does like it.

XVI? Still a bad game.

>>541908071
FPBP

>>541908146
>33%
K I N O

Before you make negative remarks about Yoshida, XIV, or XVI, I want you to remember that Naoki Yoshida is a human being.

>>541908146
>33.33%
He can't keep getting away with it.

As long as no one makes any negative or neutral remarks about Nomura, Kitase, Hamaguchi, Toriyama, Kingdom Hearts, Final Fantasy XIII, Lightning, Remake, Tactics, or E33 we will be fine.

As long as no one makes any positive or neutral remarks about XIV, XVI, Yoshida, CS3, Spirits Within, Sakaguchi or Tactics we will be fine.

>>541908516
How did you find my exes game wtf

>only ever met two girls irl who were into FF
>one of them was just in passing in a train station
>one of them is my friends wife

I just want to find someone who loves FF but hates Rebirth :(

Buy Final Fantasy Tactics: The Ivalice Chronicles

>>541909416
I did and I regret it

>>541909416
I am not the demographics to pay for games (nor do have the time to play it).

>>541909416
Best 10/10 Final Fantasy desu

>>541909640
maybe on planet retard

>>541909640
Better than XVI for sure.

>>541909929
Not a high bar to clear.

Going to have an early night tonight I think lads

>>541909416
Who knew this would make the shitposters upset?

Does anyone have a zip of all the artbooks?
Preferably the ones for ffxiv and expansions.

>>541908204
>>541908375
I just hope that those totally unique, not a manipulation, 8 individual posters who voted no within minutes of each other on both polls all know that they are NOT my niggas

>>541910751
>Since we are now adopting E33
'fraid not.

>>541910913
samefag votes aren't being counted, thankfully. E33 chads won 4 to 1!

>>541911009
If you're going to disregard the results of the poll you made and off-topic shitpost anyway, why even make the poll?

>>541911119
I didn't make the poll. I daren't in case I get banned again and can't talk to my frens at /ffg/.

>>541911009
The cultist did NOT like this one, I'm afraid.

He's doing "the thing" again

>>541911235
Right, no one made any poll, ever. Yet the poll exists, and the results have never been the shitposter's favor, and yet he continues making polls as an excuse to justify off-topic shitposting.

>>541911495
Don't be so gay

>>541909416
I will soon

>>541911495
I made the polls

One true love & kissu hug! Canon & cute couple!

>>541911871
How dare you...

>>541912164
I did it for Lune

>>541908146
>>541910913
Why are you ban evading? You got banned last thread for spamming strapolls. Again.
>>541907692
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/541671279/

To succeed, Final Fantasy must move away from traditional high fantasy.

>>541912721
Very interesting

>have been accused of being banned three times in the last day
Source?

To succeed, Final Fantasy must return to traditional high fantasy and leave Nomuraslop behind.

>>541912721
>Why are you ban evading?
Nope, not me. I did have a post deleted last thread, but I was not banned, just warned, and it had nothing to do with a poll.

I would kill to have Aerith wife.

>>541913359
I would kill...Aerith

>>541912958
kek

To succeed, Final Fantasy must return to turn-based.

>>541913493
based

>>541913934
Many people say this.

Dragon Age The Veilguard sold more copies on Steam than XVI.

>>541914189
Grim. Macabre, even.

>>541914456
And some still wonder why people are seriously unhappy with Yoshi

>>541903050
Hello yojimbo obsessor. Pot calling the kettle black. Also see >>541897941. And you're likely the guy who melted down when I talked about Metaphor here last year because I praised it over Rebirth.

>>541907129
Nah, see above.

>>541914758
He's currently in his self-soothing phase where he shitposts about Yoshida to make himself feel better.

>>541908304
>>541908105
>>541910362
>>541909929
>>541914735
>>541914456
>>541914189

>>541914980
What an ugly game. Do gachakeks really?

>>541913276
Serve your ban

>>541915469 here, meant for >>541914758, sorry!

>>541915469
Are you gonna do that thing again where you spam "serve your ban" at people who haven't been banned?

I serve all of my bans, no matter how retarded they are. I've been banned in this thread for saying "samefag" and I still served that ban. I just take a break from 4chan and/or /vg/ when I am unjustly banned.
(or, occasionally, justly banned, yet more egregious posts than mine get to stay up)

>>541916425
And that makes you a better person than the Fatherless.

>>541912902
>>541913016
The truth is in the middle

>>541907974 (OP)
Are there lolis in FF tactics?

>>541913016
I just want him to stop acting as a director and go back to being a character designer only. I believe he's responsible for a lot of bad things within Final Fantasy. I enjoyed Advent Children, and I even liked Kingdom Hearts when it originally came out, but somewhere along the way Nomura allowed these other whispers of Cloud within his mind to become conflated with OG Cloud and especially with how OG Cloud acted prior to the schizo Zack reveal, and the Remake suffers because of this. There's also the whole Versus XIII thing, and any schizos related to vXIII or XV are things that he is directly responsible for.

>>541919159
lol no

>>541913934
Peak gameplay right here

>>541913934
>still reposting the same fake webm
cringe

E33 has sold 5m.
Yoshida told his fans that turn based doesn't sell.
Was he wrong?

>>541913934
It's weird that unaltered gameplay of a game that (I think) /ffg/ actually likes always seems to trigger someone.

>>541919405
Then it's a bad game. We will never use it for the OP image again

>>541915980
You are platinum mad.

>Page 10

It's so over. E33 being too popular killed FF for good.

>>541931763
If only someone and their phone wasn't so damn stubborn, we could all be discussing the masterpiece GOTY Clair Obscur in here instead of sulkposting.
https://youtu.be/ajcSjnooBpA

>>541931763
>>541932146
Reminder that E33's /vg/ thread died. This thread should be dead too, but there are 1-3 schizos (including (You)) who keep it alive solely to shitpost. Regardless, after the literal shill money dried up, people stopped talking about E33.

Reminder that a thread on /vg/ existing is not a measure of success nor quality of a video game. Especially a brand new IP

>>541933113
>Reminder that a thread on /vg/ existing
No no no no no. No. It existed. There just wasn't enough interest in E33 to keep it alive. If it had never existed, that'd be one thing, but it did exist, and now it doesn't, because no one wants to talk about E33 anymore.

Personally, I spent maybe a week in the E33 thread near release, I talked about the game, and then that was that. Nothing more to talk about. Just a small handful of questions which there are no answers to and wonderings about assets inside of the game that are either indicative of planned DLC or cut content (or both; perhaps they are the same thing)

>nooooo nobody wants to talk about the best game of the year and one of the highest rated video games of all time that's helping push the overton window away from an industry crash
There's rolling E33 threads on the front page of /v/ for like 6 months straight, nonstop discussion

rrrrrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaawr

>>541934875
>nonstop discussion
After the first week or two, 90% of all """discussion""" in E33 thread became shitposting about Square Enix and/or Final Fantasy, with the usual sales shitposting being added to the mix ever since they announced 3.3 million. Not a single person talks about E33. No one here talks about E33 either, even in this thread people only mention E33 as a means to shitpost about Square Enix and Final Fantasy.

>>541935096
>After the first week or two, 90% of all """discussion""" in E33 thread became shitposting about Square Enix and/or Final Fantasy
I should mention, that's why I stopped going into E33 threads. About two weeks after 4chan came back up, E33 threads became unusable. Truly, about one week afterwards they became unusable because the shills were astroturfing all the conversation and telling people what you're allowed to think, but about two weeks is when it truly turned into nothing but shitposts. I guess the same exact 1-3 people who spend 18 hours per day shitposting about Final Fantasy in /ffg/ use their energy to shitposting about Final Fantasy in E33 threads when they're not spending it by shitposting in /ffg/.

I wonder what it is about Final Fantasy that attracts such schizos like that. Because all they do is shitpost even in non-FF threads, like E33. I never went to a Metaphor thread, but I hear that the same 1-3 people spent hours melting down in Metaphor threads as well.

So true

>>541907974 (OP)
Square Enix should make a Star Wars game.

>>541937359
Honestly? It's been really, really good.

>>541937767
Dialogue in FFXVI is better.

>>541915254
Better than rebirth. Which admittedly isn't a high bar, but still.

>>541937869
Better than Final Fantasy Tactics Remaster?? Lol. Lmao, even. Delita >>>>>>> everyone in XVI

Is he setting himself up for a shitpost, or is he just false flagging?
Tune in to find out!

>>541938086
Clive is a bastard child.

>>541938002
Yes, because FFXVI was done in English first. EN script > JP script

/ffg/ having 5 off topic schizos baiting each other in an endless bitter loop proves final fantasy is thriving. Where's E33s general? Exactly, what a failure.

>>541938760
If the schizos had any integrity whatsoever, they'd let the thread die instead of necro bumping it from page 10 with a shitpost, so that they can keep shitposting.

>>541939083
Even though nobody here actually talks about ff here, the general existing means we win and E33 loses

>>541939261
I do. I talked about SoP last thread.

>>541939336
*I samefagged about SoP last thread

People who liked E33 must be so jealous that they're missing out on... all this...

>>541939492
Calm down Jimbo. You'll get your turn later.

>>541939960
Off topic AND ban evasion?

I am playing 12
main gauche existing is a disaster because these cool ninja swords are never, ever getting used, man

>>541940291
If you think the swords are cool you should use them. No need to minmax unless you're having trouble.

>>541940474
maybe in the future, as it is i was just fighting antlion and that almost went south even with me blocking every other smack, if I give up this evasion right now it probably won't go well

>>541940092 here, meant to quote >>541939492

>>541942163
SoP is final fantasy. Unlike the 200 petty no u posts you inevitably contribute to this thread.

>>541942163
We accept your surrender, child.

My wife Eiko is cute!

If Rebirth hadn't sold so few copies that Square Enix still has never said anything about its sales other than that it and Foamstars were disappointing, maybe this wouldn't have happened.

>>541949041
VIIR failed.

>>541949168
It succeeded in some areas and failed in others. However, sales was not one of the areas it succeeded in.

Aerisu :3

>>541949041
Maybe what wouldn't have happened?

>>541938760
>Where's E33s general?
here

They just don’t want to embarrass XVI by revealing Rebirth’s sales.

>>541947908
The bestest

>>541908146
Plebbit 33 doesnt belong here
>>541909416
I don't like the artstyle nor Fire Emblem gameplay
>>541913934
When FF17 releases even if it's turn based fags in here Will compalin about something
>>541933113
Reminder that a games sales are not a measure of quality and plebbit 33 proves this
>>541934875
Paid shills

In some cases, sales matter a lot. In others, they don't matter at all. A lot of you would be wise to realize this.

>>541953480
The only way for XVII to get shit harder than XVI is that if it had a nigger as the main character. The gameplay can't possibly be worse than XVI's, especially now that SE said they're using the 7R combat as a foundation for future projects. At least we don't have to worry about that.

>>541951976
All I know is that XVI was a bad game and SE doesn't want to make the same mistake with the gameplay going forward.

>>541954416
If people like a turn based FF, it means my years of defending Remake were based on lies, and that I cannot allow.

>>541951803
This entire current arc that /ffg/ is experiencing, which only began once Square Enix failed to announce any sort of sales numbers for Rebirth.

>>541956662
Finally time to have anal with "Sephiroth".

Rebirth is the best FF since X.

>>541957025
10 is overrated.

>>541955747
I would rather like to believe it would be much the same.
The idea that a bunch of people are only miserable because a couple of video games undersold is too sad a thought to bear.
But given that the games underselling has given rise to those who decided to make shitting on them their entire personality, I suppose I must accept the truth.

>>541957419
Still better than XVI.

>>541954416
Rebirth has the best combat system ever created in the history of vidya

>>541959676
Is that you, Yoshi-P?

>>541960784
He's right about everything but the FF16 comat

Aerith is the Final Fantasy.

Floperith killed Final Fantasy with Flopbirth.

>>541908146
>Total votes: 12
I TOLD you NIGGERS this general only has 10 or so posters anymore. I fucking TOLD YOU!
/ffg/ and 4chan is fucking DEAD!
D
E
A
D
!

>>541967612
*Yoshida killed Final Fantasy with XVI and Dawntrail

>>541949168
We got a lot of extra character stuff, which was nice. Seeing the world reimagined in a visual sense was also nice. Everything else was terrible.

>>541967969
and 6 of those were the same guy lmao

>>541967969
There are only 1-3 rotten apples here, too. If they decided to leave, the thread would probably die, but before it died there would be no shitposting. Imagine that.

>>541968284
Sad but true.

I truly believe that I could turn things around for the company within 3 years if given creative control

>>541969243
Who the fuck are you?

>>541970663
Me? Square Enixs worst nightmare. A series vet.

>>541970707
Oh, so just another armchair expert.

I think an armchair expert would be an improvement
I think letting chris-chan run the show would be an improvement at this point

>>541971229
An expert is better than a hack. At least I know what makes the series great. Or what did, at least.

I miss Tabata.

>>541972283
I miss the early 2000s

>>541909416
Max is playing it.
Why hasn't Audrey and Genki picked up The Kinovalice Chronicles yet?

Going to go workout, which ost should I listen to? (not XIII)

>>541978021
XVI of course.

>>541978158
Will do x

General would be popping if we allowed E33 discussion like was previously agreed upon

>>541990110
the only reason we're posting at all is to keep the general bumped and prove to the world final fantasy is still a cultural phenomenon. it doesn't matter that we don't discuss the games despite there being over 100 games to talk about. these threads and the posts in them definitely prove final fantasy is a cultural powerhouse and nobody cares about E33.

>we
>we
>we
That boy ain't right

Seems like a no-brainer to me

>>541991173
Well (you) certainly aren't posting about final fantasy.
>>541991343
Pic related

>>541991585
Once I'm done taking a shit, you're gonna start to get really upset about Final Fangasy posts. I hope you are mentally prepared.

>>541990110
People are itching for another new game after XVI failed to move the needle.
E33 is that game right now. Part 3 is all that's on the horizon, and many people are disillusioned by FFVII. It's going to be another 5 goddamn years of wait minimum for the next big game. No surprise that there's very little engagement here

>>541971814
Well then, where's your pitch? I've pitched concepts here a dozen times. How would you do it?

>>541992081
I post on 4chan every day to send SE a message that the people want FFXVII to have VIIR style combat. I think my efforts will really pay off five years from now when we're playing FFXVII and it has VIIR style combat. And you'll have me to thank.

>>541992353
>Instantaneous false flagging
....right. I think if you directly wanted to send SE a message, you would do it through more a official channel no? This is a basket weaving forum

The thread would be improved by leaps and bounds if people would post about their waifus instead of other posters

>>541992597
I do it here to ensure everyone agrees with me. I am steering the ship of public opinion. To contact SE directly would make me only one voice. The work I do here lets me control the future of the series.

Yeah good luck with that
We post heroines here sir

>>541992324
Firstly, I would get rid of the deadwood, and fire all but one existing employee (I would keep one Jap working, so people don't claim we lost our soul).
Secondly, I would hire all the expedition 33 devs and ask them to make some true ff kino like the good old days.

>>541932146
But you threw a hissy when I was talking about Metaphor last year and saying how much better it was than Rebirth. Funny enough Rebirth PC also got dunked on by 33.

>>541932716
No shills, its a legit good game. It's just the usual Yoshida obsessor getting uppity again.

>>541968473
Sadly true. Music was good too. But gameplay and story? Yuck!

>>541960784
>KH team biggest contribution to FFXVI
Then why is it missing vital pieces that KH has?

Surprised this wasn't posted here.
https://youtu.be/SsCYOP07x14

>>541994709
Very silly. The basis of Sandfall contributing to a new mainline FF title is not a bad idea, although it's not unique. Me and many others have all expressed the same sentiment. You could lend them the FF IP and they could make something interesting. CS1 and Sandfall team members coming together for a new dream project could be fantastic. I think the only drawback here is that the devs are so new and inexperienced. Wouldn't it be even better for video games if that team can grow naturally and turn their series into something with real lasting power, long before you come together and put eggs into baskets? Let's see how Clair Obscur 2 turns out

>>541995082
>But you threw a hissy when I was talking about Metaphor
Don't recall this ever happening. You must be confused. Metaphor was a great game, I loved the music and voice acting. I had problems with it though and I don't think it's a better game than Rebirth, but I understand why someone would think that. It had a fun and elegant class system.

Which modern games are similar to classic FF entries? I don't give a shit about graphics

>>541998939
Expedition 33

>>541999018
I've already finished it 3 times and want to give it a break until the new content drops.

>>541998939
Visions of Mana and Trials of Mana are both classic, colorful and fantastical with fun Jobs systems.

>>541999702
I'll give visions ago, I found trials p fun

>>541999882
Visions is really good. It's not FF tier but I really enjoyed the artwork and music. PS2 game soul food

>>541998939
>Which modern games are similar to classic FF entries?
Classic FF entries? difficult to say, i havent been able to find games like it.
Some people say exp33 but i completely disagree. The vibe is different. Its not laidback enough, its not fantasy on the same degree. It doesnt even give the same idea of an adventure. FF is more than just another turn based combat franchise.
People were saying meetaphor as well back in the day but i disagree except in ONE specific cutscene that felt pure final fantasy.

Chrono Trigger Remake? Yes or no?

>>542007836
Fuck no.

>>541990110
Better than the 7 remake project that's for sure.

>>541993830
>t. 100 deleted post spammer

WTF

>>542008035
Hey now, don't call out the fatherless like that...

>>541918201
Beyond based.

>>542007836
It's still completely fine to play all these years later though, balance aside. I'd get it as long as it wasn't in the same vein as the 7 remake, though.

Been takin GLP-1s for the last 6 months and been coming out in hives recently, turns out I'm allergic to an active ingredient in them :( I will never look like Cloud now

>>541995082
>No shills, its a legit good game.
/v/ went from over 20 concurrent threads 24/7 to only 1 or 2 threads that couldn't even hit bump limit, over night, as soon as June began. It is a good game, not as good as people are claiming, but there were absolutely paid shills as well.

Aerisu!

>>542011226
Naturally you have a proof, right?

>>542011771
You can go through the archives if you need proof that there were literally more than 20 concurrent threads for E33 24/7 and that all of these threads disappeared overnight beginning in June.
(June 1st they were still up because they were already created, June 2nd they were completely gone)

>>542011423
Cute! Still mogged by Tifa and Yuffie.

>>542011958
So you have no proof, okay.

>>542012052
yep

>>542012115
The proof is there if you want to go look. I commented on it when it happened. I have never in my entire life seen a more obvious case of a game being literally shilled than E33. Good game. Not as good as the "this game is literally the best game ever" retards say, but still a good game, yet clearly and obviously hugely had a paid shill campaign on /v/

Playing a little indie horror called House of Necrosis and the spells are taken straight out of older FF games. I love it

>>542012360
>proof
>/pruːf/
>noun
>noun: proof; plural noun: proofs
>evidence or argument establishing a fact or the truth of a statement.
i.e.: having a lot of threads is not a proof.

>>542012470
I can tell that the truth is upsetting for you, for some reason. It's okay, sweetie. Lots of games get shilled on /v/, and E33 was one of them. No need to get your panties in a bunch over it.

If you truly desire proof, you can go through the /v/ archives and check the amount of E33 threads in May, view the last post in each of them in order to find out which ones were up concurrently, and then do this same thing for threads that were created from June 2nd onward, and see that there were significantly fewer (~18) concurrent E33 threads beginning June 2nd, because all the E33 shill money dried up. This is going to be difficult for you to track, however, because not all E33 threads say "E33" or "Clair Obscur" or "Expedition 33". They might say nothing, or they might have a picture of Maelle or Verso, or they might say Maelle of Verso, or they might have a Twitter image, etc etc. Your work is cut out for you, but the proof is there. I'm sorry that your favorite game was the target of a literal paid shill campaign, but it happened, and if you truly desire proof, you will find this out for yourself.

>>542013051
Since you seem daft, I'll explain it again.
Lot of threads =/= proof.

Meaning this is literally just you seeing a lot of threads, and deciding by yourself that since you hate a good game, it has to be shills, without any real proof.
Do you understand, or do I need to explain it even slower?

>>542013229
>Lot of threads =/= proof.
Well, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that there were literally more than 20 constant concurrent threads for E33 during May, and that they vanished literally overnight so that by June 2nd (after the threads created at the end of May were gone) there were only 1 or 2 threads for E33, and they had trouble hitting bump limit.

A lot of threads in and of itself is not necessarily indicative of paid shill activity, you are correct, however when all of the threads disappear overnight at the beginning of a new month and they never come back, it's clearly paid shill activity. Other shill campaigns are less obvious and taper off organically. E33 discussion on /v/ fell off a cliff beginning in June, which is not how the flow of natural conversation occurs.

>deciding by yourself that since you hate a good game
I don't hate E33. I said this already. It's not as good as the shills (paid and unpaid) want you to believe that it is, it's about a 7/10, but it is a pretty good game. It just had a lot of literal paid shill activity on /v/.

>>542013648
>A lot of threads in and of itself is not necessarily indicative of paid shill activity, you are correct, however when all of the threads disappear overnight at the beginning of a new month and they never come back, it's clearly paid shill activity.
"Clearly", right. Or it could be mods FINALLY doing their job and getting rid of spam, or people playing something else. You seem to believe 4chan is worth advertising on when our reputation on the internet is of a bunch of internet raider fapping to gay porn of twinks getting their asses demolished by a massive giant cock.
All I see when I look at your posts is a mix of a conspiracy theorist mixed with self-importance. 4chan isn't well-regarded enough to be warrant shill, and it's too small to have any influence anyway. Our days of making memes and having reddit eat from our ass are gone, now we are the four guys living in a gay hippie commune and throwing empty cans at passersby and calling them unvirgin losers.

LE Claire...

>>542014035
>Or it could be mods FINALLY doing their job and getting rid of spam
Well, it is certainly possible that E33's contract ran out at the beginning of June so that mods began pruning threads because Sandfall (or whoever) was no longer paying them, yes. That is definitely a possibility.

>>542014193
Remember the part of my post about conspiracy theorists? Yeah.

>>542012052
But she is the main character.

>>542014416
Just telling it how it is. Literally 20+ constant concurrent threads don't magically disappear overnight and turn into only 1-2 threads beginning in June naturally. It doesn't work like that. It cannot be that literally everyone on /v/ all decided together, without planning it before hand, that no one is going to talk about E33 anymore beginning in June.

The proof that E33 is a shit game and a failure and nobody cares about it is nobody on /v/ talks about it anymore.
The proof that 7R is a huge cultural phenomenon and beloved by all is we have Scarlet futa threads on /v/ Every. Single. Day.

>>542014842
I don't think anyone has ever said either one of those things.

>>542014842
Why are you so obsessed with E33?

>>542015116
You could have said that about any of the 40 posts above mine that mentioned it. What makes you think I'm the one obsessed with it? I wouldn't even mention it if you weren't all talking about it on /ffg/ of all places.

>>542014149
Final Fantasy: Vanille On The Beach...

FFT did 77.8k physical in JP. So probably over 100k in JP alone without counting steam even. Not bad, wonder if it'll lead to a sequel of sorts

>>542015812
>I wouldn't even mention it if you weren't all talking about it on /ffg/ of all places.
Unfortunately, someone has decided that E33 discussion is allowed in /ffg/.

>>542015029
I'm saying it, because it's true.
The only true measure of a game's worth is how much people talk about it. This is especially comforting when you see awards go to games other than 7R which people talk about less than the female characters in 7R.

>>542016219
Interestingly enough, E33 threads are pretty much just like /ffg/ where people use it as an excuse to shitpost about Final Fantasy and Square Enix.

>>542015116
Because people can't accept the fact that square enix is an out touch garbage company and e33 is proof that they could easily make games just as good as they used to in the late 90s but they clearly refuse to do so out of sheer stubborness and stupidity.

>>542016479
It's tough out there.

I thought E33 failed the poll, so why is every thread nothing but E33 discussion? Curious.

>>542016567
cont.
e33 is no masterpiece, but the fact that some random french studio can make a better final fantasy game that square enix is just baffling.
And no, you won't convince me that XVI is a true final fantasy mainline game just because of references. Not even CoD fans have these wack ass standards: if the new cod black ops warfare whatever was a racing game, not even they would eat it up, they would be fucking pissed.

>>542016838
Seems like this anon might have an opinion on the matter: >>542016567

>>542016912
>the fact that some random french studio can make a better final fantasy game that square enix is just baffling
I mean, a little indie studio made a better Pokémon than Nintendo, sooooo...

>>542016838
The poll was largely infected by a 4chan hate contingent so we can ignore the results.

I miss the late 2000s

>>542017285
That's a big Vanille

>>542017353
U
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>>542016912
>the fact that some random french studio can make a better final fantasy game that square enix is just baffling.
E33 is more like a JRPG version of a Nier game, which is good but overall worse than Nier is.

If you want "[X] niggaz in a row" made by specifically by Square Enix, you can play any one of the turn-based games they are still producing, like Dragon Quest. Or you can even play Fantasian, made by Sakaguchi with music by Uematsu. E33 is by no means any sort of Final Fantasy game. A JRPG with a world map is not something that belongs to Final Fantasy.

>it's escapism, it's not healthy
E33 literally reproduces the meaning of one of the stories in the series

>>542014149
This image evokes strong feelings in me.

>>542017989
On another side, Metaphor message is that while escapism isnt healthy, you can still use it as strength for your daily life and decisions. Fantasy has the power to make you a better person depending on how you use, and, in not a subtle way, says that your ANXIETY and fears can be used as strength.

>>542017732
The issue here is that, from what I see, when people say they want a final fantasy game "like in the good old days", they don't just mean 4 guys in a row, they specifically want something resembling VII to X (and I guess, by extention, Lost Odyssey), but with modern, top of the line graphics. I don't remember seeing as many people gushing about sea of stars or any of the other countless retro, pixelated rpgs that came out in the last years, so it seems e33 is closer to what everyone wants. For me, while yes, the resemblance to FF is kind of surface level, it definitely reminded me of that era of RPGs, in a way that only DQXI really managed to do lately.

Which char has the most lickable pits?

FF7r will always be relevant

>>542018602
I need to argument to be framed entirely around "niggaz in a row" and nothing else for two reasons. Please don't stray from the strict lens which I've decided this debate must be seen through.

My beloved Angel.

>>542017732
>>542018602
And, to be completely honest, while the team asano games are good they are also rather generic, almost like a knock off of ff, and people only really praise them for the gameplay. At least in the case of octopath 1 and bravely 1, the story and characters aren't as engaging or memoriable as the ones in FF from VI to X, or hell, even the later ones with all of their faults.

>>542018738
This means so much to me

>>542019113
>memoriable

>>542018690
Lightning, Tifa, Yuna.

>>542018602
>they specifically want something resembling VII to X (and I guess, by extention, Lost Odyssey), but with modern, top of the line graphics.
This is a very nebulous and ambiguous qualifier which I'm not sure can truly be quantified or explained in any meaningful way. Apparently you are correct though, because E33 threads are just (very likely the same people from this thread) bitching about Final Fantasy and Square Enix.

>For me, while yes, the resemblance to FF is kind of surface level, it definitely reminded me of that era of RPGs, in a way that only DQXI really managed to do lately.
It didn't remind me of Final Fantasy at all. It reminded me of Persona and Nier much more than Final Fantasy. Nier more so than anything else, from the music to the world to the characters, it all felt very Nier to me. Though it did also feel like a JRPG with a world map, because that's what it is, but this is once again not something unique to Final Fantasy. Then again, I have played many different games and many different kinds of games, so as a video game player, perhaps I have a broader horizon than just "this is or isn't Final Fantasy [i.e. [X] niggaz in a row JRPG with a world map]"

>>542019578
purest muses...

>>542019152
As a FF fan, not so much for me. Its just a franchise i like.

>>542019101
giwtwm

Final Fantasy should completely eliminate RPG elements.

>>542019668
>very likely the same people from this thread
There are only like 10 people here and very few of them actually do bitch about ff. There's a lot of crying about roving hoards of haters making life torture for ff enjoyers but to me it looks like some persecution complexes have spun out of control. Everyone here just assumes an evil hater is hiding behind every post, with dozens more lurking in silence. But very few actually say "ff is bad!"

And even if every one of us went to /v/ to bully ff, what kind of impact would we make? /ffg/ barely moves at all but apparently these E33 threads (which don't exist anymore since the shill money ran dry?) are also populated with /ffg/ posters saying final fantasy sucks.

You must realise how paranoid, miserable, insane, and frankly, pathetic, you sound. But I guess now that I've been mean to you personally, that means you'll consider me one of those SE bashers who hate FF.

>>542019857
Didn't ask

>>542019668
Well, just like I said, the resemblance to FF is surface level. And besides, if it really is ONLY because of the world map, then how come no one else tried to do that lately? that sounds incredibly easy. Those other elements you are talking about are not exclusive to nier either, so I don't see why you keep bringing that up, but whatever.
I guess the correct choice then is to keep paying square enix for trend chasing AAA slop, decent at most retro nostalgia baits (which are actually totally just like old FF and I HAVE to love them for it) and rereleases of their actual good games.

>>542020893
Non SE games must be undermined, SE games must be praised

>>542020338
>There are only like 10 people here and very few of them actually do bitch about ff. There's a lot of crying about roving hoards of haters making life torture for ff enjoyers but to me it looks like some persecution complexes have spun out of control.
There are 1-3 people who do nothing but shitpost about Final Fantasy. It's definitely not very many posters doing it, but the few that shitpost do so quite frequently. If we cannot agree on this objective fact, then we cannot continue a conversation, because you're being disingenuous.

>And even if every one of us went to /v/ to bully ff, what kind of impact would we make?
Well, (You) [i.e. one of the 1-3 shitposters who do nothing but shitpost about FF] single handed keep this thread alive so that you can continue to shitpost in it. This thread goes from (You) page 10 necro bumping it with shitposts to hundreds of posts in a couple hours depending on how lively you are choosing to be with your shitposting. I can only assume that you are exactly the same people who use E33 threads to shitpost about Final Fantasy and Square Enix.

>(which don't exist anymore since the shill money ran dry?)
See? You're being incredibly disingenuous. This is who you are, someone incapable of being honest. There are no longer 20 concurrent E33 threads on /v/ because, beginning exactly in June, the shill money disappeared, so 20 concurrent threads turned into 1 or 2 threads. We've already been over this, but you're too dishonest to just have a conversation. The 1 or 2 E33 threads that exist on /v/ now seem to mostly be (very likely the same people form here) just bitching about FF and SE.

This is your last reply until you can start being sincere and honest. I think I'm just going to stop replying to any of your posts, since you're always lying, insincere, disingenuous, or dishonest. Those are your personality traits. You have zero honor and zero integrity.

>>542019578
Yunas pits are NOT for licking.

>>542020304
The already have for the last few releases

>>542019578
Tifa needs spankings.

>>542021053
>(You) [i.e. one of the 1-3 shitposters who do nothing but shitpost about FF]
There it is. Stopped reading here because you jumped to the conclusion that I am a sworn enemy and FF hater just because you don't like my post. How ironic that you should accuse others of insincerity and being disingenuous. What's your proof anyway?

Face it, I described you perfectly. You think there's only 1, 2, or 3 anti FF posters here but you also pull the "fact" that I'm one of them out of your ass and claim this 1 (me) shitposter is such an omnipresent menace that I am single handily flooding /ffg/ and every E33 thread with anti SE rhetoric 24 hours a day.

You're just a schizo loser who really needs to find something to do other than sit here all day jumping at shadows.

Lune...

>>542021260
Which ones?

>>542021053
>if you don't like XIII, XV or XVI you are not allowed to post anything besides fanart here, don't you ever dare to complain, we want a nice little hugbox here, otherwise I'll call HR (aka that one ban happy mexican janny)
this is what your bitching about "shitposting" really sounds like

>>542021053
>>(which don't exist anymore since the shill money ran dry?)
>See? You're being incredibly disingenuous
He's referring to your own conspiracy theory you crackpot

>>542020893
I'm pretty sure you're samefagging, but I'll give you a reply just in case.

>And besides, if it really is ONLY because of the world map, then how come no one else tried to do that lately?
Why would I know the answer to that? I don't. My speculation is that the world map originally exists as a limitation. They couldn't model the entire world, so they modeled an approximation of a world, while actually modeling the dungeons and towns. However, as technology advanced, there was no longer a need to separate the world map from the dungeons and towns, you could just model all of it. See Final Fantasy XV. The last time a world map exists in FF was Type-0, a PSP game, and it existed likely as a limitation. As we progressed passed limitations, we progress passed the world map in JRPGs and switched to "open world"

>Those other elements you are talking about are not exclusive to nier either, so I don't see why you keep bringing that up, but whatever.
This is why I think you might just be samefagging while pretending to be two different people. E33 "feels" more like a Nier game than like a Final Fantasy game. I'm not talking about the surface level comparisons to old FF by virtue of it being a JRPG with a world map, I'm talking about the actual substance of the game feels more Nier than FF.

>I guess the correct choice then is to keep paying square enix for trend chasing AAA slop, decent at most retro nostalgia baits (which are actually totally just like old FF and I HAVE to love them for it) and rereleases of their actual good games.
More reason for me to think you're samefagging, but maybe you really are a different person. Who knows. I didn't say any of this. The last FF game I bought was XV, which I purchased 5 times, but I'm still disappointed that it wasn't Versus XIII. I'm largely not a video game purchaser anymore at all, unless I pirate some indie game and really like it or buy on sale at a deep discount.

>>542021645
You don't even have to say anything bad about SE or FF for him to decide you are the enemy. Like I said, the persecution complex has reached critical with some of these schizos.
>>542021707
I was questioning his theory, which made him mad and then he just repeated it. I think he might actually be a moron as well as schizo.

>>542021809
>I'm still disappointed that it wasn't Versus XIII
the source of the mental illness reveals itself

Since the 1-3 shitposters seem to be incapable of being anything other than disingenuous, dishonest, insincere, and untruthful, they will not be getting any replies. If they attempted to have a conversation, they could get (You)s, but they are not attempting to have a conversation. They are just bitching, as usual. I guess it really is the same people from this thread who do nothing but bitch about FF and EE in the E33 threads. Small world. I guess we'll have to add "E33 threads" to the list of the places the shitposters could be while /ffg/ is falling to page 10.

>>542022365
>they
Okay so you're dropping the theory that it's 1 then. Now it's 2 or 3 shitposters. And one of them hasn't said anything bad about SE or FF but they're also using E33 threads to do exactly that, and you KNOW this is a FACT because you're very smart, not because you're a paranoid schizo with a persecution complex.

I seriously wonder if any other fandom would be fine with the way Square handles this franchise. LIke, if Civilization suddenly became a fighting game series, Street Fighter became a visual novel series and Battlefield became a platformer series, and then their respective companies started releasing watered down "spiritual succesors" of the previous games just so people don't complain about it, would their fans be happy?

>>542022831
Oh wait, I forgot, I can't sa-"
[THIS USER HAS BEEN BANNED FOR SHITPOSTING, NO NEGATIVE POSTS ALLOWED]

No one here hates Final Fantasy, but we'll keep shitposting about it anyway.

>>542023026
I haven't said one bad thing about FF or SE but I want to thank you for proving >>542020338 >>542021529 100% right.

I love Final Fantasy (I-X)!

>>542011226
This post really struck a nerve. Wow.

>>542023438
>the "honest" anti-shitposter begins his "you struck a nerve" routine
How depressingly predictable.

>>542023438
Yup.

I can tell you guys are handling the recent sales milestone about as well as I expected.

>>542026767
Sometimes sales are very important. Other times they don't matter at all.

>>542026767
>>542026876
They never matter when it comes to quality. I'll say it for the millionth time: just because call of duty sells well, that doesn't make it a good game.

>>542026767
Hit the nail on the head on this one, I'm afraid.

>>542027167
Exactly. Sometimes they are very important, but other times they don't matter at all.

Let’s talk about FINAL FUCKING FANTASY, shall we?

>>542027547
I got it for free on PC lol.

>>542027547
This feels short-sighted. Why not wait until Part 3 is released to bank on a complete package? I don't think anyone who wasn't already interested in 7R would care about this.

>>542027547
I think we'd all rather talk about anything else other than Final Fantasy. Ideally something that we can use to shitpost about Final Fantasy with.

>>542027662
They need more instances of being able to double dip sales numbers for the "Remake Trilogy"

>>542027547
Ok, sure, what are the best dressphere combinations for the endgame in x-2? I heard the postgame in this is really really hard, but most of the posts I see about it use this strat with catnip and gunner which was seemingly removed in the remaster, so what do I do?

>>542027623
Why aren't you supporting Square Enix?!

>>542028873
Supporting them to carry on making garbage? Just pirate every product they put out until they make a good one.

>>542028873
Too greedy.

>>542029007
why are you pirating stuff you dont like? thats like getting a free burger that you didnt want to eat anyway

No one hates Final Fantasy or Square Enix, and no one is shitposting about it.

>>542027167
Wish I'd known this when I was using Remakes sales figures as proof it was a great game back then. What a fool I've been.

>>542029180
I pirate things so that I can shitpost about them.

>>542031117
I did that all the way up to Rebirths release. After that, for some reason, I stopped thinking sales figures were a good way to prove a game was good.

>>542031117
Same, but XIV instead of Remake.

>>542029182
throw a few more tantrums about e33, maybe that'll cheer you up

>>542031439
For me it was SoP. Man, the speed at which I stopped using sales as a measure of a games quality when THAT game came out, phew! It would make your head spin.

>>542031234
I pirate things I'm interested in but not necessarily willing to fork up money for, although I try to support any new games I really like and SE as much as I can

>>542031768
>i am poor but i refuse to admit it
We get it.

>>542032084
I've bought Rebirth twice, XVI twice, Remake twice, SoP, have the entire catalogue of mainline games on Steam....I think I have the right to pirate a spin off or emulate whatever I want

>>542032267
My apologies. As long as you do what you can to protect SE shareholders and don't help their competitors.

>>542031532
Someone decided that E33 was on-topic for the Final Fantasy General, so E33 posts are allowed here. If you are looking for positive conversations about video games, you are in the wrong thread.

>>542032267
:^)

>>542032816
>I want to stay mad at you so I've decided you're lying
You will be miserable your whole life

>>542032949
>I want to stay mad at you so I've decided to put words in your mouth

>>542032726
Wait...Why shouldn't I buy any other companies games? Try to answer without sounding schizophrenic or false flagging about Final Fantasy VII

>>542032987
Is >>542032267 lying?

If pirating a game will allow me to shitpost about that game, I will gladly go out of my way do it. I'll document (screenshot) it as well. Especially if it happens to be a Final Fantasy game, doubly so if the developer I hate is attached to it.

>>542033383
god damn just find something else to do already you massive fucking faglord
you MUST be aware of what a whiney bitch you are

>>542033119
No I'm not lying and I don't have anything to do with whatever you guys are scuffling about, I'm just stating that If I want to pirate a spin off portable game remaster like Crisis Core or Tactics, I'll do it. I still support the mainline and SE as much as I can.

>>542033383
If I pirated Tactics for a PS1 emulator, would that piss you off too? Would it make a difference in your world? How about the PSP version? I have that too. How about pirating FFV Pixel Remaster on a handheld whenever I was on a vacation one time? Lol. You've never pirated an FF game?

>>542033641
>>542033895
I only do what I must to ensure that the correct opinions about Final Fantasy and other games are maintained within /ffg/

>>542034325
What's a correct opinion?

>>542034325
Finally you're being honest

>>542034532
I'll let you know. Stay tuned to the /ffg/ to find out.

>>542034645
This is very difficult for me to do and perhaps this might be the only moment of lucidity I ever have.

The soul of FFVII, FFVIII, FFIX and FFX is clearly present in Clair Obscur and the entire gaming world knows it

>>542034532
see >>542036136

>>542036365
Both me.

>>542036136
>freelancer writer
So NOT an actual journalist. Why should his voice weights more than anyone else?

E33's success is proof of how much people used to like Final Fantasy

Truer words have never been spoken.

I regret buying XVI even once.

>>542036760
and it's working, ff is very jealous

>>542036910
>ff is very jealous
***Former FF fans (current FF shitposters) are very jealous.

Are there any Final Fantasy games where I can cast Thundaga on a dog?

>>542036910
I'm actually extremely calm right now.

>>542037024
jealous of what? nobody even likes e33, all the shilling was paid for

>>542027547
I know they're going to release 7R bundle eventually but Part 3 isn't even out yet. This is just greedy and desperate, lol. But at least it still sells more than XVI they never found an excuse to re-release that trash.

>>542037270
>jealous of what?
You'll have to ask them. One of them is right here: >>542036910

>>542037395
I would have said E33s success, but we know it wasn't successful at all. Just look at how many anons on /v/ prefer to talk about Scarlet futa than E33. FF is an unstoppable cultural juggernaut. Just look at the MtG sales. I'd like to see E33 match those. But it never will.

>>542038034
It is strange how many posts in E33 thread on /v/ are dedicated to shitposting about Square Enix and Final Fantasy.

>>542039031
I agree. Personally, as someone who stalks the catalog 24/7 for E33 threads to make sure no one praises the game too much, I really wish its fans would be less insecure.

>>542039031
Good thing there are practically no E33 then. They all disappeared when the shill money dried up. Nobody talks about it or likes it.

>>542039157
It's weird that you stalk the catalogue 24/7, but I respect it. You must ensure that the correct opinion about Final Fantasy (and other games) are maintained both within /ffg/ and without. We wouldn't want anyone to post the wrong opinion and get away with it, now would we?

>>542039558
So, just like XVI?

>>542039615
As long as Square's stocks stay healthy, everything's fine by me, really.

Why is everyone so mean to VIIR and other SE products

What the fuck is wrong with you people

>>542039982
I keep telling them not to be but here we are.

>>542040000
Final Fantasy has the most insecure fanbase in gaming.

>>542039982
Nostalgiafaggotry is one hell of a drug, really.

>>542011226
This post caused a 5 hour meltdown. Incredible. I wonder how much longer this one is going to last.

>>542040000
We'd rather talk about final fantasys reputation and standing in gaming culture than about the games themselves. This is how you KNOW we're still at the top with nothing to prove.
Sometimes it might look like a bunch of elderly guys who are delusional about still being number 1 and all the whippersnappers being clueless and everything else being a passing fad... but no, we really are the biggest dicks on campus. Look at our general, everyone else WISHES they had this!

>>542040000
The only thing I hate more than people badmouthing SE games are FF fans who like the old FF games. I hate people who hate old FF games more than anything.

>>542040206
>>542040469
no need to post twice, we heard you the first time

>>542040206
You struck a nerve.

>>542039982
It ruined FFVII.

>>542040601
I know, that's why I doubled down and made the point clearer here >>542040469

None of this would have happened if Luke didn't blindly trust Van Grants and triggered the destruction of Akzeriuth.

I hate nostalgiafaggots who love "the way final fantasy used to be" and XIV and the XVI fanboy. They're the ones stopping /ffg/ from being good. And by good I mean a non stop flow of people agreeing VIIR is kino and that VIIR combat should be the basis of all future FF games. Everything other than this is shitposting.

>>542041589
This is unironically my exact position

>>542034532
see >>542041589

>>542040875
>VIIRfags are trannies
I see, I see, that makes sense...

>Transphobia in our halls
Gentlemen...

>>542041589
It really is this shrimple

>>542040875
Final Fantasy has always been trans.

VIIR’s combat should be the basis for all future Final Fantasy games.

>>542041996
>supposedly
>potentially
Man, trannies are so desperate to belong in the natural world that they try to claim straight women. How miserable and pathetic.
But it does explain the fatherless' obsession with that cheap slut.

>>542042125
When he's right, he's right.

>>542042125
I'm here to provide a non stop flow of agreement.

>>542042159
Lightning is trans. It's 2025 now, the Remaster will prove it.

>>542042662
>it does explain the fatherless' obsession with that cheap slut.

>>542036136
What roots?

>>542042125
You won't hear otherwise from me. This is what we're here for.

>>542042125
Irrefutable, I'm afraid.

>>542042125
>>542041589
Now this is what /ffg/ is all about!

>>542042125
This will make some people angry, but it has to be said.

>>542040000
Real answer: of the 10 people who post here, aboit 2 of them seem to genuinely believe /ffg/ is the front lines in the PR war for FFs honour. Nobody gives a fuck what anyone here says. Not even most the people here do. But the way "wrongthink" is shot down and narratives MUST be maintained and the seriousness with which posts here are taken, it's clear someone really believes what is said here matters. Opinions MUST be crushed by "facts"* (*his opinions) and shitposters* (*anyone with a different opinion) MUST be weeded out!
The irony is it's just the same 10 people every day and nobody is having their eyes opened. Meanwhile jimbo can do a poll on his socials and get a few thousand people to see it. And even that doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things but it does make it funnier to see 10 schizos fighting over nothing at the bottom of a barrel at the bottom of a black hole that literally nobody cares about. And yet the war rages on.

>>542044095
and even if they don't say they're angry, we'll know they are

>>542044404
>Real answer
Did not read. We do not come to /ffg/ for "real answers", we come here to ensure that the correct opinion about Final Fantasy (and other games) is maintained within /ffg/ and without. You can see this action at work on a daily basis here. If you don't like it, you can leave.

>>542044404
Well said, damn

>>542044404
Prepare for dismissive responses but no actual refuted points

>>542044973
Don't worry, I know how it works. This guy >>542044678 wouldn't know how to articulate his thoughts even if offered a million dollars for them. Maybe, just maybe, he could express it in a passive aggressive falseflag, but not with his own opinion.

>>542045127
>Nobody gives a fuck what anyone here says
You've already said my thoughts exactly, champ.

>>542045127
>but not with his own opinion.
There is no one with "their own" opinion here, dumbass. You either have the correct opinion or you have the incorrect opinion, and too many people have incorrect opinions here. That's why I spend hours every day working to correct this problem. If Square Enix wont make Final Fantasy great again, then I will.

>>542045232
Hey, if you're agreeing with me, great. Odd gif choice to express it but thanks!

>>542045405
Oh, when you posted >>542041589 you weren't kidding. You actually do hate anyone who likes old ff games.

Something something persecution complex
Something something paranoid schizophrenic

>>542045514
If you have the wrong opinion, then you can leave. This thread isn't for you.

>>542040000
All those schizophrenic answers to my question pretending that they aren't the problem...not an ounce of Final Fantasy to be seen.

>>542046603
The important thing to a harmonious /ffg/ is that we all agree and that no one has the wrong opinion. People with wrong opinions don't belong here, or anywhere for that matter. Maybe they can go back to plebbit.

I can tell someone is definitely very calm right now.

Post your wrong FF opinions

>>542047252
FFXIII is definitely above average and not a miserable failure.

>>542044404
The real the front lines is reddit sub where they refuse to listen to the public's honest opinion on FF.

>>542047367
This is part of the /ffg/ narrative of correct opinions. Are you shitposting right now? Are you trying to say that an officially approved /ffg/ correct opinion is a wrong one?

>>542047367
You made someone very, very angry.

Claire's Remaster will save the franchise.

/ffg/ narrative of correct opinions

Final Fantasy XVI is the best one, it successfully reached new audiences. The definitive modern entry and fastest selling PS5 exclusive
Final Fantasy XV was a flop, killed the series.
Final Fantasy XIV is worth the endless time and money. Dawntrail is underrated; Wuk Lamat did nothing wrong
Final Fantasy XIII is pure shit, the worst RPG games ever made, no I never played them
Final Fantasy VII Remake is woke and Nomura shot me in the back, Kingdom Hearts slop. They killed FFVII.
The only FF games outside CS3 that anyone here should care about are spinoffs and gacha games on your phone, playing those is what makes you a true fan

>>542049096
Lightning ("Claire" is her dead name)'s Remaster will save Final Fantasy and she will become a fragrant muse and icon for trans rights both at home (Japan) and abroad.

>>542047252
see >>542049214

>>542049448
Both me!

>>542049214
>Wuk Lamat did nothing wrong
Unironically yes.

>>542049518
Then thank you for samefagging and providing the guidelines for wrong opinions on the /ffg/ that we must combat. However, next time you should reply to your own post if you are going to answer your own post.

>>542049286
>>542049592

>>542049927
Rentfree.

>>542049927
Sorry, I don't have wrong opinions.

>>542049927
kek

>>542049927
EXTREMELY funny.

>>542047252
FFIV is good.

Do you believe Nintendo can revive the series?

>>542049096
The Light of her return will burn and smolder this thread to ashes, and the sinning non-believers will be cast out into the Chaos. In her name, we must pray....

>>542050798
It's important to remember that sometimes sales matter a lot, and sometimes they don't matter at all.

>>542050798
Bing bing wahoo toy box game design can and will save Final Fantasy

>>542051109
thats a dude.

>>542051109
Lightning owes me sex

>>542050798
Final Fantasy was born from Nintendo. It's only natural for children to come home after they reach adulthood. The fake Final Fantasy can stay with Playstation, nobody cares

Final Fantasy VII was always Kingdom Hearts.

>>542052841
>It's only natural for children to come home after they reach adulthood. The fake Final Fantasy can stay with Playstation, nobody cares
>"Final Fantasy VII isn't Final Fantasy"
Get out of this thread with your wrong opinion, right now.

>>542052841
The funniest part of all of it is how FFVIIR is the AAA mainline "return to Nintendo" title. It's pottery.

>>542053378
Nobody said anything about VII, why do you sound so mad, bro?

>>542053753
Final Fantasy VII is not a fake Playstation Final Fantasy.
That is a wrong opinion for the /ffg/, and you need to take it back where it belongs.

>>542054074
You might want to go back to grade school and learn how to read. I don't see any mention of VII in the original post.

>>542054546
>The fake Final Fantasy can stay with Playstation, nobody cares
Final Fantasy VII was the first Playstation Final Fantasy. Happy to educate you, now please adjust your opinion to the correct opinion or leave this thread.

>>542050798
Considering Nintendo's newest console can barely run PS4 titles, no.

>>542054725
Whatever you say, bro. No need to sound so triggered.

>>542021638
XVI technically has them but they don't really do anything besides make it so bosses require slightly fewer cooldown flowchart rotations

The fake 'final fantasy' is the one that doesn't have cactuars in it, FF1-3 don't count

Get a hint?

>>542055986
As long as you have allowed yourself to be educated on what the correct opinion here is, we shouldn't have a problem.

>>542050798
If they play their cards right I believe we might see a turnaround.
Otherwise I'm afraid we will lose to Dragon Quest.

>Top 10 Best PS5 Physical Launch Week Sales in Japan!
once again FFXVI winning bigly

>>542055986
I know the correct opinion is that everything related to XVI is bad, but I'm unsure of what the correct opinion regarding Tactics is. Before the Ivalice Chronicles came out, I believe the correct opinion was that it was good, but now that Ivalice Chronicles is out, /ffg/'s narrative on it seems to be split.

>>542057630
FFT never felt like a FF game. It's Tactics Ogre with a FF skin. That doesn't mean it's a bad game by any means, and no one here shit on the game itself.

>>542058210
I'll have to monitor our opinion in the next few weeks. A very important key player in the /ffg/ should finish his playthrough soon, and then we'll have a better idea of where /ffg/ stands on Tactics in a post-IC world.

Play Lightning Returns. There are cactuars.

>>542058367
>A very important key player in the /ffg/
Anon-senpai.....y-you don't really mean that do you?

I'm trying to use AI to educate myself on the correct opinions to have on the /ffg/, but it seems to be doing a meta shitpost as an answer to my question. I guess AI is not yet advanced enough to correctly participate in /ffg/ discussion.

Naruhodo

Correct opinion: Final Fantasy is going to be just fine

>>542059862
>but it seems to be doing a meta shitpost as an answer to my question.
Damn, he might as well already be a regular here.

>>542059216
Based

>>542060806
He seems to be harboring some opinions which are very dangerous to the fabric of /ffg/. AI was a mistake.

>>542061635
Every argument in this thread, and every single instance of namefaggotry or other such behavior, is derived from the eternal of those who have correct opinions and belong here vs those who have incorrect opinions and should go back to Twitter or Reddit or Discord or Bluesky.

>>542063062
>those who have incorrect opinions and should go back to Twitter or Reddit or Discord or Bluesky
Indeed, but enough about the fatherless loser.

The world is not black and white

What set off the sane and unbiased Yoshitroon this time?

>>542041589
weird to see someone here being this honest

>>542063172
Correct, but /ffg/ is. There is no Red magic here, only Black (wrong) and White (right).

>>542021529
Personally, I think it's this post that set him off

>>542011226
It's crazy to think that 9 hours later, we are still melting down about this one post.

>at the point in ch 4 where it's just endless grinding for job and skill unlocks
>enemy summoner, nice
>crystallizes, nice
>ready to save some sweet JP on ramza
>fucking last enemy nigger i debuffed down to 1 speed wakes up, flies to the crystal
>even turns ramza to stone just to spite me
>walk over and kill it with nearly 500 damage from someone who had used focus dozens of times
fuck you piece of shit

>>542063956
Everything I love most about FFVIII is in Galbadia. GOATed continent.

>>542064273
he still thinks everyone is mad at him for his schizo conspiracy theory about E33. like his truthbomb made us all mad because of how true it is. when the reality is he's just been having a tantrum all day about imagined enemies and threw in some shit about E33 in the middle. he won't try make it make sense. are we all the paid E33 shills? and if not, why would his post make us mad?
no, it doesn't make sense, and no he won't explain, but he will continue to insist his delusion is true.

>>542064430
>>542011226
This has the potential to become a multi-day melt. We are still going strong.

>>542065227
9 hours of different anons agreeing that post is making people mad even though nobody is talking about it, and none of these anons can explain why they think anyone is mad at that post. Just keep repeating it bro

>>542066130
If you disagree with us, then you're the mad one!

9 hours ago I said E33 had paid shills and everyone is angry about me saying that. They're going to be angry about me saying it for days because they're paid E33 shills and I called them out.
None of the responses to my expose made me mad by the way, I just want to remind everyone as many times as possible that my E33 shills expose made everyone mad. I'll remind you all many many many more times.

>>542064897
>muh paid E33 shills
Truly bizarre...The weirdest part of that cope is that it blatantly denies everyone who discussed the game passionately their own agency. It's not just conspiratorial thinking, it's downright insidious schizophrenia. We were all PAID to say positive things about the game on /v/...kek

People played the game for themselves because they were deeply interested in the premise and genre (me/you) or were recommended the game by a friend or from a YT video. People were blown away by all the little things that the game does right, and everyone all came together to talk about the game naturally and instinctively. Grassroot support for a mid tier indie title that has some solid English VA names attached but very little marketing outside of announcement trailers that every single game gets. It's sold millions far quicker than anyone expected, and there's no looking back. It represents a singular and potentially massive shift in the industry away from bloated production, that everyone can get behind. Bitter, old, balding freaks for some reason are obsessed with the idea that the game is astro turfed. Maybe because then they can dismiss the game, studio and everyone who talks about it outright. All in order to feign superiority?

>>542066414
>everyone is angry about me saying that
Literally wrong. Only I cared enough to answer you, and it was only to call you a conspiracy theorist because you had no proof.
You still don't have any by the way, all you did was seething and malding in a most embarrassing way.

>>542066478
By the same "logic" we can declare anyone who spoke positively about Rebirth in the first two weeks was a paid shill. Why not? Makes just as much sense.

>>542066808
Everyone who ever posted anything positively on /v/ about FFXVI and FFXIV was a paid shill. I've as much proof to back up this statement as anyone else has regarding Clair Obscur

>>542066478
You have to admit lots of people suddenly talking about a game that is selling millions of copies just doesn't make sense

E33 shills are melting down and saying my post doesn't make any sense again...

>>542067184
You would think that a JRPG flavored grimdark and melancholy game with busted character building and cute girls would be popular on /v/
But I swear, it's viral marketing. It's the Indians, it's the Chinese. It's SEA. It's anyone, anything except for White males/Final Fantasy enjoyers.

>>542067113
Wow, you made everyone mad for 51465146541651 hours.

>>542067113
Either that or they're underage, that would explain why they enjoy playing trash games.

>>542067386
I have been known to cause someone to copy paste something innocuous that I said months ago word for word because it stuck with them that badly. So that's not that far from the truth

>>542067689
Stop calling out the Lightningfag, or you'll make xim mad.

>>542067743
Probably a paid E33 shill. Actually it definitely was, no doubt at all.

>>542067689
For some reason, someone thought this post had something to do with their boogie man. Sad!

>>542068202
Strange things are happening around these parts....gotta be Yoshills

>>542067863
Too late, it's angry!

Paid E33 shills are not taking my expose of their crimes very well. The irrefutable nature of the evidence is making them melt down.

>>542068814
Yeah, it's seething! How cringe!

>>542069073
Wow, you made everyone mad for over 9000 days and nights.

>>542032084
The post that angered the fatherless Lightningfag for the eternity.

>>541908516
>As long as no one makes any negative or neutral remarks about Nomura, Kitase, Hamaguchi, Toriyama, Kingdom Hearts, Final Fantasy XIII, Lightning, Remake, Tactics, or E33 we will be fine.
...in the end, we weren't fine.

Let's all settle down and get back to talking about the 10/10 FINAL FANTASY TACTICS

>>542070956
The verdict is still out on whether or not Tactics is an approved and appreciated /ffg/ talking point or what the correct opinion is to have about it.

>>542070956
argath is a cunt

>muh paid E33 shills!!1!!
Someone is really insecure

>>542071409
Yes, but enough about the fatherless Lightningfag.

>>542071409
No one has been mad for 10 hours about this post.

you people are friendless loser weirdos man

>>542073305
That is the true essence of Final Fantasy

>>542070956
>>542071107
Call him a cunt all you like, milksop.
Whilst you seethe and sup on broth of bean,
Argath is perfecting his sick burns for baseborn whelps like Delita and (you)

>>542063956
I hope VIII Remake gives us more Centra lore. I really enjoyed the expanded Gi Tribe lore in VII Rebirth.

Tips for fft?
Never played before

>>542078712
Save often on several slots. Depending from zodiac signs, people can take a lot of damage from different elements.
Grind a lot.
Don't feel obligated to keep party members that have average bravery/faith.

>>542078945
What is average brave and faith? 50?

>>542079295
Yeah. If it goes under 20 or over 80, you risk the guy leaving, but extreme values have interesting effects. You'd have to ask someone who played the game a lot more than I did, though.

>>542078712
Equip your skills
Get Auto-Potion from Chemist asap
Switch Jobs every so often to grind for JP but don't bother JP farming through story missions you can always stop to grind

I played WotV. I don't need any tips for Tactics.

>>542078712
Drop Matsuno slop and play Yoshida kino instead.

>>542078945
>>542079415
Didnt know this game had necessary grinding
Should I grab the jp boost skill on everybody first then I guess?

how many party members can you recruit in Tactics? I know Ramza plus four other characters can be on the field at a time.

>>542080524
I would keep JP boost on everyone for a while.
Swap it out when you have something better like Dual Wield.
You don't technically have to grind at all but mastering the Jobs is the fun of Tactics because you can mix and match so many different abilities.

how many party members can you recruit in FFXVI?

>>542081226
Just like the quintessential FFV

>>542080698
disregard that, I found the answer. anyways should i look at tier lists?

>>542080284
This is a wrong opinion.

>>542080524
>Didnt know this game had necessary grinding
It does. Some fight can be really hard.
Also, I'm not 100% sure, but I think random encounter scale with you. Story fights don't, so if Gaffgarion or Agrias are wrecking your ass, grind.

>>542082185
You know what? I have to agree.

>>542078712
Auto Potion + X-Potion x99 = easy game

Dead franchise.

>Am I still a Final Fantasy fan if I played both 7Remake and 7Rebirth for the first time last year, absolutely adored them, but have no interest in ever playing the rest of the games?
The only game I'm kinda interested in is FF16 but every single person I've spoken to says it was a Shenmue 3 level disappointment

FF17 is never coming out, and if it does it will be worse than FF16. Square will experience what it's like to have a delayed flop.

>>542087773
Play the original Final Fantasy VII

>>542087773
>Remake/Rebirth
interesting ideas but mediocre. feels like playing a budget DMC
>XV
horrible but retarded people like it
>Tactics
if you like the job system 20% of the game is fun and 80% is extremely boring
>XIII
the worst game design decisions ive ever seen. its honestly incredible how bad it is
>XIV
gameplay is the only reason to play it. story is somehow worse than all the others

>>542088232
>horrible but retarded people like it
This, but for every game. Not a single good one in the entire bunch. People only think they were good because they played them as children

>>542088504
I never played FFVII as a kid. It's 10/10.

>>542088232
Are we still playing the wrong opinions game?

>SE finally announced the FFVII and FFVIII twinpack and FFIX for physical releases in North America
>when they could have done this since 2018 or later.

Real FF fans are eating good

this appears to be the shitposting thread, but has anyone tried the struggle for freedom mod
should have looked around at mods before I started replaying 12, looks kinda neat but I'm way too far in by now to start over on a whim

>>542087773
>>Am I still a Final Fantasy fan if I played both 7Remake and 7Rebirth for the first time last year, absolutely adored them, but have no interest in ever playing the rest of the games?
You might be the biggest Final Fantasy fan of all. As long as you have already decided that Part 3 is GotY all years and that anyone who says otherwise is a shitposting doomer, you'll fit right in here.

>>542092058
Didn't release these already?

>>542095830
for asian countries

>>542092058
>buy digitally half a decade ago for switch)
>could have imported, but nah
>this happens
I swear Square doesn't have a brain soemtimes. we had physicals for FFXII and FFX (well X-2 is download only unlike JP).

>>542097905
huh

>>542101119
why didn't they release physicals beforehand if southeast asian countries had them?

>>542101753
Shut up retard

>>541999702
SD3 is goated, Trials remake does a good job.
Visions is a solid 7/10. Shame bout the whole situation with its release.

>>541999702
>>542109141
Not final fantasy

>>542109214
See >>541998939

>>541998939
>>542002438
True. E33 doesn't feel like Final Fantasy at all. Though it is a turn-based RPG with a world map, so people who think that Final Fantasy owns those things (because they haven't played very many games or JRPGs other than Final Fantasy) might think that it feels like Final Fantasy even though it doesn't.

As Final Fantasy fan I still think of it as the best JRPG series.

Friend asked me which FF games were the best. I told him XII is amongst the worst and he couldn't believe it and thought it was one of the most well recieved. Cringe.
When did this zoomer whitewashing of XII happen? It was also detested around launch and the few years following it.

>>542101753
Can't you just be happy that shareholders will see increased share value once the physical editions of FFVII, VIII and IX come to switch in more regions? You don't have to shitpost all final fantasy news all the time.

>>542110482
Atlus games are pure slop, and most other series die out. I can see why people would prefer the Trails series, but FF is also my favourite.

>>542110496
I don't remember it ever being "detested", but it was the first real departure from what people traditionally knew to be Final Fantasy. I thought it was meh on release, but I like it more than I used to now. This has happened with a few games for me, including VIII, which I also thought was meh on release but I appreciate more now.

Years from now, when FFXVII isn't turn based, all this will have been worth it

>>542110590
XII and VIII are both shit

>>542110482
Of still-standing JRPG series, Final Fantasy is still the king. Unless you want to count Pokemon, I guess. Though if Persona 6 is as much of a cultural phenomenon and inspiration to the gaming medium that Persona 5 was, then Persona could perhaps begin giving FF a run for its money.

I wish Capcom would make another Breath of Fire game.

>>542110567
Tranime art = not buying

>>542110643
If it isn't turn based it will be the last entry into the series

>>542110874
>he genuinely believes this

>E33 is turn based
>sells 17x more than XVI and Reshite
telling

>>542110782
Not like you buy anything to begin with, poorfag.

>>542111437
Personally I find it very funny that even a digimon game of all things is making a mockery of final fantasy. Methinks the claims of turn based being sales poison were premature.

>>542111437
>>542111864
These are both the types of correct opinions that /ffg/ is all about.
Keep em coming, boys.

>>542110770
What does P5 do beside being animeshit? All Fatlus games look and play the same.

XVII will be as revolutionizing to the series as VII was.

>>542112336
I wont engage with disingenuous posters, sorry. All you need to know is that it revolutionized the gaming medium via its menu and UI. You can see this evidence even in the current hot topic if /ffg/, Expedition 33.

>>542113096
You call this a UI?
I call this schizophrenia.

>>542114947
>I wont engage with disingenuous posters, sorry.

>>542114947
If you think that's bad, wait until you see Metaphors. What an absolute eyesore that entire game is.

>>542079725
I would love a FFT remake with 3D models like WotV's

I would love a FF with turn based combat kino

XVII will be the true merging of X and VII

>>542111437
Someone saw this and somehow felt attacked. Why?

Never played Tactics. Remaster or original?

>>542121241
Someone did? Can you link me to the /v/ thread where that happened?

>>542121428
Remaster, duh.

Is Tifa's game safe?

>>542049096
>>542051109
>>542053623
>>542060765
Jesus fucking Christ she's built like a truck SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEXXX
SEX!

>>542123905
She's sturdy.

>mfw an autist makes a 7 hour full game Ivalice Chronicles guide video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR41rRE1baw

>>542128304
>2025
>big, fit, solidly and healthy built girls with hips wider than the diameter of planet Earth cosplay as Lightning
Yes, it's all decided. She will return. It's inevitable.

>>542121241
Where?

>>542121241
It appears you struck a nerve. Be careful.

Posts don't need to actually exist in order to feel threatened by them.

Never ask me to make sense of my accusations. They are simply true. Just ask the guy who always shows up at the perfect time to agree my accusation is accurate and who also doesn't explain.

>>542135306
So did you. Unfortunately, it means he's going to be talking to himself for the next 7-8 hours now.

Goddess.
And her very intelligent sister.

>>542136273
In fact, merely questioning my accusations only causes them to become more true. That's what makes baseless and evidenceless accusations so powerful.

accusations shmaccusations
threatened shmeatened
struck a nerve shmruck shma shmerve
attacked shmattacked

Where's Vanille, goblins?

>>542137508
>Where's Vanille
Now this is a question all of us (should) be capable of getting behind

I did not care for Vanille.

>>542140909
Hey now, you can't say that, you'll trigger the fatherless.

>>542111437
Reminder that turn based games don't sell anymore. Nobody buys them.

>>542146094
Obsessed...

>>542146094
I feel sorry for the people who made that new turn based digimon game. I'm going to check the steam numbers right now to confirm that it has sold 0 copies like every other turn based game.

Another day, the same rehashed shitposts to keep the thread alive.

>>542147962
The Yoshidahater has nothing left in his life, please understand.

>>542148041
Maybe he wouldn't get so much hate if XVI wasn't so trash.

>>542148041
You made him upset. If he wasn't still upset from yesterday (he is) then this alone would make him continue to melt down all day (again)

XVI was life changing for me. It made my life better. But I also forgot about it once BG3 came along.

>>542147962
All the paid E33 shills ITT should make a /e33/ general instead of bumping our general. Why do they do it?
>>542151380
Billions felt similarly.

>>542152075
>All the paid E33 shills ITT should make a /e33/ general instead of bumping our general.
They definitely should. That way they can finally move on.

Square Enix decided to let (You) decide what third party develops the next Dissidia game, who do you choose?

If you don't like /ffg/, why do you come here?

>>542154093
Can you imagine what would happen if I wasn't here to complain about others shitposting final fantasy? I hate it here, and everyone here, but what I do is important. My dream is for /ffg/ to never be bumped again so it can just die and I could finally stop worrying about final fantasy being shitposted

>>542153471
Arc System Works for Dissidia fighting game
Koei Tecmo/Team Ninja for Dissidia action RPG

>>542152075
>All the paid E33 shills ITT should make a /e33/ general instead of bumping our general.
We have a XIV general yet people here refuse to use it.

Final Fantasy is in the same category as The Simpsons, where by this point it’s been bad for far longer than it was ever good.

My biggest gripe with XVI was actually the combat itself. I hate how the cooldowns even existed. I wanted to just style and combo on enemies freely, but anytime I felt the urge I had to basically slow myself down thanks to the ability cooldowns. Abilities and your moveset should have been two separate things.

>>542161774
The major reason I dislike FFXVI is because I believe it's a cheap slap in the face. After reading ASOIAF, it's a gutless, no balls narrative which thinks sex and swearing means mature while they don't have the balls to make Joshua die by Clive's hand and fumbles world building so bad the setting is more like Medieval Naruto than Westeros. The gameplay is a shoddy derivative of Devil May Cry missing many basic features that have been there since DMC1 and many of thrse features have been in past FF titles. This is where it goes from meh to insulting.

The Yohipiss cultists will just ignore my post as usual because everything I said is legitimate criticism. Therefore, they won't have any counter argument to defend their garbage game.

You guys are still crying about the 10/10 FFXVI?
I've been too busy playing the 10/10 FF Tactics to check in.

>>542177704
The 10/10 FFXVI made me gay.

>>542154093
>>542154489
Some people insist upon having wrong opinions. What can you do? That's why we're here for 18 hours per day, to set the record straight. No wrong opinions shall be permitted about Final Fantasy or other video games, within or without /ffg/ as long as still draw breath.

>>542177704
>>542177790
Many such cases, I'm afraid.

>>542110482
But of course.

>>542148041
You struck a nerve.

>>542177790
>The 10/10 FFXVI made me gay.
These are the only posts saying that FFXVI is 10/10 which have never been attacked on /ffg/. I can only assume that the normally incorrect opinion (that XVI is 10/10) which will cause hours long meltdowns under normal circumstances is somehow the correct opinion to have as long as you also state that you are homosexual.

It's strange to think that there are incorrect opinions on /ffg/ which then become correct opinions under certain conditions, but /ffg/ is a very complex and multi-layered thread, and Final Fantasy is a very complex and multi-layered series, so it was bound to happen at some point. I'll have to keep a close eye out for other incorrect opinions which become correct only under certain conditions.

>>542161774
>>542167640
As someone who has made a lot of complaints about XVI, I will once again reiterate that I still think the basis of the combat design was objectively good quality. But it's been handicapped very badly through the MMO design sludge, lack of RPG elements and absolutely zero unique use-cases almost anywhere in the game. You can just use any moves to defeat any enemy. Clive doesn't have enough kit variety all by himself to keep this mash fest fun, wailing on monsters endlessly with one character. No practical magic that works on some enemies and doesn't work on others, no party commands, no team up attacks, no sequences. XVI also had a really good, precise control scheme. The base kit technically allows you to execute 75% of anything you'd really want to in a traditional hack and slash game, barring some damn combos. When you have your abilities decked out and you are in the flow, the game can be very good fun.

The problem is and always will be the lack of variety. MMO cooldown spam on health sponge boss enemies that you can't juggle or interact with. Total lack of enemy variety, lack of encounter variety, and lack of mechanical variety. You have one weapon. You have one combo. There are no other controllable characters. You've likely had enough of playing this Clive experiment by hour 20, but you can easily spend around 70 hours to do everything in the game. This compounds every little gameplay problem to become worse than they really are in isolation. Bad design like a shell over the top of a good design.

If they had just designed multiple characters based on FF Jobs, like Samurai for Cid, Dragoon for Dion, Red Mage for Joshua, etc, and used ATB, the game could have easily become a 10/10 classic. Even with story flaws and general blandness intact. It would have been a Final Fantasy game. Experimenting with the characters and outfitting them with unique Commands and equipment is the true meat of Final Fantasy gameplay, not the "combat".

>>542121241
12 hours later, someone is still melting down about this.

>>542185950
Big if true

>>542065227
>This has the potential to become a multi-day melt.
It did, in fact, become a multi-day melt. Powerful.
The only question now is how many days it's going to last. It might become permanent.

>>542185950
You riled him up. Hopefully he doesn't spend his entire night trying to prove how unaffected he is by this, I fear it's taking a toll on his mental health.

Where's the Final Fantasy?

>>542186712
E33 is the real Final Fantasy.

>>542186810
Many people felt similarly, hence its long term commercial success.

>>542186712
Needs rape

E33 is The True Final Fantasy XVI.

>>542186810
>>542186929
When was the last time there was a Blue Mage in the mainline outside the MMO's? X-2?

>>542186810
>>542186929
>>542187305
I love these objectively correct opinions about Final Fantasy that we espouse for hours on a daily basis. I'm glad that everyone here can agree on what is objectively true and what is objectively false. We don't dedicate our lives to this for nothing.

>>542187338
XIV.

>>542187338
>X-2
The Quintessential Final Fantasy, also known as FFV, but better.

>>542185950
It's impressive, really. I'm not even sure what makes him so upset.

>>542187615
If having some banter on the internet about Final Fantasy is what they dedicate their lives to, and that's a bad thing, then what are you dedicating your life to by "calling them out"

>>542187870
>and that's a bad thing
You somehow misunderstand. I am agreeing and being supportive.

>>542187870
Unfortunately, it seems we won't get an answer anytime soon.

>>542187762
Needs a very violent anal rape that leaves her gasping and panting, but happy.

>>542187762
>The Quintessential Final Fantasy, also known as FFV
Correct.

>>542187305
This

>>542187736
>outside the MMO's
Thanks for trying

>>542187762
Yuna....my first vidya waifu. I couldn't take my eyes off this cutscene. I must have been maybe 8 years old. I think she activated my love for short hair women

>>542188082
But anon, you're being disingenuous right now. That's called false flagging. I think you must do it as a paper thin cover for your unstable emotional state, because every single day you are here crying about 1-3 shitposters who are ruining your thread. But you never seem to post any Final Fantasy like a normal human being

What's going on, buddy? Who was your first FF crush? Post her

>>542188151
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Maybe he just doesn't know yet that it's not supposed to be super serious business online 24/7. Maybe he needs to "go back" as it were

Yoshida has never made a good game.

>>542189905
Sad but true

Yoshida has never made a game.
Yoshida has never drawn a piece of art either.

>>542190083
Not a genius

>>542189905
So much this

What have Yoshida's ideas actually been so far? I don't really know that much about his contributions directly except

>cloned World of Warcraft to court their audience and fill it with FF memberberries to keep the lifelong fans on a financial leash
>cloned DMC, nu God of War, GoT and Naruto but removed the RPG
>"The combination of realism with the very unreal sense of turn-based commands doesn't really fit together"
>"I mean, if you have a character holding a gun, why can't you just press the button to have the gunfire — why do you need a command in there?"

Damn, Yoshida is so strong that he lives rentfree in a lot of shitposters' heads.

>>542191384
>"I mean, if you have a character holding a gun, why can't you just press the button to have the gunfire — why do you need a command in there?"
Its amazing how much E33 repeatedly makes him look like a fool.

>>542188887
>But anon, you're being disingenuous right now. That's called false flagging.
I am doing no such thing. I am simply commenting on the correct opinions I have come to know and love on the /ffg/. I'm sorry that seeing opinions you agree with seemingly angers you. I assure you this is not the intention.

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>>542191595
Like this. This is what /ffg/ is all about. These correct opinions are my own as well. This is why we all come here. To agree with each other about correct opinions regarding Final Fantasy as well as certain other video games. Sometimes our work might even take us outside of /ffg/, which is understandable to a cause as noble as ours. Keep the correct opinions flowing.

I like Yoshida's games.

>>542188151
Oddly prophetic post.

>>542191768
>I'm sorry that seeing opinions you agree with seemingly angers you
What opinion did I express that aligns with you? Point it out and let's discuss it. I asked you about your first FF crush, and instead, you went on yet another off topic tangent....

>>542191902
If only Yoshitroon would post FF girls he likes and take that XIV branded buttplug out of his ass, this thread would be a much better place

>>542191768
Uh oh yoshimeltt

>>542191547
Not seeing a lot of ideas from Yoshida being posted by you despite you leaping reflexively.

Did he write a story or a character's story? Did he write song lyrics or did he direct the cinematography of iconic scenes? I'm legitimately asking if you have any information that I don't have.

>>542192620
>reddit spacing

>>542191862
Unfortunately, this is an unauthorized opinion. You must either reveal that you are homosexual, or you must change your opinion. Or you can leave /ffg/. These are your options.

>>542191908
>What opinion did I express that aligns with you?
Presumably one of the posts linked in this post: >>542187615 but you seem upset about it.

>I asked you about your first FF crush, and instead, you went on yet another off topic tangent....
How is talking about Final Fantasy opinions off-topic? Why does it anger you that I agree with the correct opinions of /ffg/? Are you false flagging for some reason? Do you actually harbor some wrong opinions yourself? It doesn't seem like that's the case to me. Once again, I am sorry for whatever misunderstanding you are having.

>>542192551
Why are so many people all misunderstanding at the same time? It seems strange to me that this would be the case.

>>542191862
I'm gay btw

>>542192620
Interestingly, I have a feeling we're not going to get an answer to this one either.