Thread 542244754

shrooming my loops edition

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>TWO ECKS KAY OH
>>542084050

dead game
dead general

Doing shroom combos while watching evo
Reminds me of the good old days when I used to set up blazblue on my switch while watching youtube

>>542244929
>check EVO
>see WW
>"who the fuck is playing WW at evo, he released literally 3 days ag-"
>sonicfox
of course

NICE FUCKING EVO VIEWS FUCKING SHITHEADS LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>542245019
I respect his hustle ngl
Not many coomers would drop their mains just for the new coombait, furries might be more dedicated

>>542245125
its in french, im not watching that shit

>>542244754 (OP)
2xKami WON AGAIN!

IT'S TWO TIMES THE KAMI, WHAT'S MORE TO LOVE?????

>DBFZ getting a new character and patch
Time to uninstall 2xkuso from off my computer. The goat of tagslop has returned

I like the game and I like Teemo but this game needs some sexy midgets

>>542245582
See you again tomorrow!

>>542245582
oh wow another goku, daring choice

where is the 2xko evo france stream?
it's happening right now

I'm hitting my loops now bros
you guys proud

>>542246859
good job

>>542246859
do it in real matches stinky

>>542246859
Yes little milky, we are proud of you!

https://www.twitch.tv/PNDKandM
tune in

>>542246590

>>542246859
not really, you wasted time practicing on a game that will not last a single year, i kinda pity you even

>>542246041
People were shitting on lab coat 21 when she got revealed well before she was released. Dragonball has been the Goku show since forever now and it's exactly what the fans want.

your game killed my favorite videogame street fighter 6

I need you to apologize for that

>>542248013
Lab Coat 21 was shit on for being unabashedly the most overpowered character in the game in addition to being lazy asset recycling.

>>542248207
sorry for your shit taste

>>542248207
We are sorry 2xKami-sama killed Slime Figther 6, please forgive us..

Leffen getting fucked by a furry, i can't

leffen tweet inc

>>542250458
kek

>>542245876
The new DBFZ patch drops tomorrow so nope.

Are there cross region private lobbies yet?
Can a Burger play with Euros or SEAmonkeys?

>>542251969
depends what you mean, anyone can make an account on a regional server, but its still going to be the server for that region (e.g. NA)

>Hikari wins EVO for DBFZ
>tune in to 2xko
>Hikari in Winner quarters
holy shit

>>542244864
Trueee, sooo trueee big truee

It's wild how Du owns xiaohai in literally every SF. Bodied him in 4, 5, and now dix

fr that's crazy
he's bout to body him in 2xko next

>>542244864
4chan users don't play fighting games, it's a discord thing.

leffen is already out in strive?

>some Saudi nigga is in losers finals of cotw
kek

my friend claims he's going to reinstall sf6 for viper.

wait I thought this was sfg who was the fag that linked it.

>Want to play the game
>Vanguard running in the background all day long starts to eat at my mind
>Make the Vanguard service stop running at boot
>Write a script that works as a shortcut for the game
>It starts the service, launches the Riot client and then launches the game
>It's working! It's working!!
>Close the game
>Script detects that and kills the Vanguard service
>Peace of mind
>*content smile*
>Next day
>Game launches and displays error "Van 57"
>"You can't be serious..."
>Uninstall everything
>Install again
>Game runs
>Close everything
>Run script
>Error Van 57
It took less than 10 hours for them to patch this out. I didn't share it to anybody.
I really want to play this game but I am not running spyware willingly. Fuck you, Riot.

>>542255198
why are you on windows then

>>542255094
sleepfighter sissy got mixed this hard by 2x chads..

>>542255303
Because I can curb it's spy tendencies.

anyone got a french clip of that sonic vs leffen final moment? the english commentators are so boring compared to the french ones

pathetic fucking numbers slopeatingbros...

>>542256941
now show the steam charts

>>542256941
it's EU hours and most EU players are probably watching the first European Evo which 2X isn't even a maingame for yet
game is kino btw

>>542257340
2xko has more viewers than my other game, which is a main EVO one...

>>542256941
>Early access
>Already killed every other FG
>Only Dix left

>>542255198
it has to be running since boot, fuck riot for this gay ass shit
ive tried closing and reopening it for other games in the past, doesnt work it makes you restart

>nearly half of the top bracket are all dbfz fags
We're so back bros

any good vi guide yet?

>>542258152
I kneel...

man how do people block those mixups

>>542255198
>has to run at all times
It's weird how after all this time there's almost no regulation laws for the internet, these chinks are literally banking with stole information.

>>542260115
they are actually not that fast
you just have to keep track of the point character
the handshake flash helps

>>542260321
how does it work, if the assist is hitting me from behind do I have to block their way or I don't need to?

>>542260115
real answer, they aren't
it's about killing them with your bullshit before you die to their bullshit

>>542260392
you only block in the direction of the point character
the assist also doesn't hit high or low, and only mid
only the point character's hit can be high or low

>>542260392
you always have to block the direction of the point character

>>542257340
Holy cope.

I really hate the Jinx character archetype. I don't mean zoners I mean Harley Quinn knockoffs.

should've made a 3d game with an optional tag mode lil bros

>>542263212
fuck, maybe tekken tag 3 is needed..

>>542263138
i'm so quirky and random and crazy xD

>>542246041
nigga my fav Goku is SSJ4
for all the Gokus that game has, it fucking lacked my absolute favorite
DSSJ4 is a downgrade, but it's still SSJ4
so yes, hit me up with another fucking Goku

ive done so many shrooms my controller's heavy button is getting sticky and doesnt always spring back up no more
Man
Maybe I should buy a more expensive pad than this 30 dollar chinese one what do you guys recc

>>542263736
>ssj4
explain the nu ssj shit for me
i only watched as a kid back when it was like.. vs frieza? cell?
something like, ssj3 was shit, because he was 'stronger', but too bulky and couldn't do shit?
so ssj2 was actually better?

why is his hair black
why is the other hair blue

>>542263138
Actually Jinx came out before they made harley quinn what she is now.
Modern Harley is a Jinx knock off if anything.

Original Jinx was supposed to be a knock off of the joker

>>542263138
Remember when they made an animated show where she was actually a really good character and then they went: "Nah fuck this let's just make her Harley Quinn" in Season 2?

>>542263903
play on keyboard

>>542263138
My nigga, I always hated Harley Quinn and her clones

>>542263903
shrooms make you gay

Is the tournament using the most recent patch? I assume no because it wouldn't have given people enough time to practice it before the tournament.

>>542264438
Okay, so the original series had 4 super sayan versions:
The original with golden hair.
Bulky one that was too slow to do anything, never saw any use beyond one fight.
Super Sayan 2 which was same as the original but with lighting and hair being a bit more straight-up.
Super Sayan 3 which had huge amount of golden hair and no eyebrows. It was stronger but used energy too quickly so wasn't used that much, only Goku had this form.
After the original manga and anime was over, there was a anime-only continuation called GT. In it, SS4 was introduced, this had black/brown/red hair, hairy chest and had the tail back.
Much later they made a new anime called Super that treated GT as non-canon. It introduced the terrible looking blue-hair Super Sayan form. It had some retarded name like Super Sayan God Super Sayan or something like that, people just call it super sayan blue. I think the idea is that Sayans are leeches who never earned any of their own power but just drain ki from nearby people and the new form was the result of hanging around gods and draining their ki.
Then there were some retarded stuff like Ultra Instinct Goku and Beast Gohan that had white hair, but technically these weren't super sayan stuff.
Then they made series called Daima that featured the SS4 from GT even though it made zero fucking sense, because they are desperate to cash in on any possible nostalgia now that Toriyama is no longer alive.

>>542265727
what the fuck is that spoiler
toriyama is dead? bro..

2xko is such an awful name everytime i hate saying it
has the community decided on another name yet

>>542265927
Oh yeah forgot to mention there was also evil Goku that had pink super sayan form because he was possessed by an evil god.

>>542266702
I mean, it's not bad, but you can tell the devs named it that way to not sound generic.
I think it's a fun name.

I gave the game a fair shot, I don't know how much of a loathsome dungeater you have to be to look at this and think ''I'll enjoy this for years to come''

sure it does stick out but it doesn't exactly roll off the tongue

they shouldve called it Arcane Rift Tag Match: 2v2 or DIE

Is the game laggy as fuck for anyone else? Like actual game lag, not connection. My PC has good specs so I'm not sure how to fix this

>>542257340
it had barely 20k on it's launch day, no one outside of FGC is talking about it, newsites aren't touching it outside of the hilariously overpriced skin bundle.
Games DOA.

>>542245841
Vex with a butt slider would save the game.

>>542263903
I have a Haute T-16 for like 2 years already and it's still good. I even bought it from Aliexpress.

League of Mashers
Champion Fight Night
Ring of Legends
Wildin' Rift
Mid or Feed
Fight Lane
Switch Lanes

>>542267126
yeah but mostly in the lobbies for me. no idea how to fix it either and i know my pc can handle it easy.
>>542267232
this guy gets it

>>542267124
That'd be the title if they japanese

>>542267138
Brother in Christ, nobody cares about newsites anymore.

>>542267409
>>542267232
How do we convince 2XKO's team to add her for Year 2, since we're most likely not getting another yordle for a while

Wait teemo combos are so fun
bouncing people up and down and pogoing on them and otging them with the shovel is kinda sick as hell

>>542267570
depends on their game plan i imagine. do they plan to keep milking arcane? next yordle might be that loser heimerdinger. do they want functions? possibly gnar or vex. popularity? tristana or idk kennen

>>542267562
>nobody cares
normies still keeps tabs on IGN and them not touching 2xko is a sign that no one outside of the FGC cares and sorry but the FGC is not enough to support a riot game

what does "mickey" mean? noticed some people called the game that last thread

Wasn't Supernoon an alpha tester? Or was that someone else?

>>542267570
E-begging Riot, drawing her in 2XKO stuff, ask for her at IRL events, etc.
ofc ask for a butt slider. Either that or a face sitting victory screen.

>>542268016
I feel like if they add a Yordle, they have to bring energy that contrasts with Teemo. Teemo is pretty bright and weird and cute and Heimerdinger is more of that, but older.
Out of the remaining Yordles, I see Vex, Poppy and Kled and even Rumble having the greatest chance of getting in.

>>542268525
mickey mouse game

How do you consistently get the timing down for Teemo shroom loops
I can sorta do the dart loops but the shroom ones are giving me trouble.

>>542268525
It's /sfg/ lingo, it means a corny game/not a real fighting game

>>542268525
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mickey+mouse

>>542268525
>no one does those more advanced Warwick combos
>everyone does the most mickey mouse baby shit because it's effective even at high level play
literal mickey mouse fit the square in the square hole ass character

Should I watch evo france or should I watch sonicsol play 2xko?

>>542269223
advanced combos are for faggots

>>542269280
call me king queer then because they're fun and look cool. seeing the same 123 combo over and over again for 50% of my life into DHC braum S2 is tiring and ugly

>>542268740
>they have to bring energy that contrasts with Teemo
do they? i feel like most of the cast dont really contrast each other that much. even darius is a more cheery version of himself.

>>542266924
The fuck is wrong with her face?

>>542269531
For some reason I just feel like yordles are gonna be held to a different standard than the rest of the cast. They're pretty niche

>>542269627
...That's a she, right?

>>542269627
american born asians get mutated by the environment and food into abominations

>>542265727
>Bulky one that was too slow to do anything, never saw any use beyond one fight.
whats this one again?

>>542268074
Huh? Nobody cared about Concord and that got shutdown in 2 weeks after all the "glowing" reviews. Jornos are irrelevant. 2XKO has more of a chance skipping them than appeasing their dribble.

>>542269627
She's asian
>>542269916
She's australian

>>542269715
so long as its a female and not lulu

>>542269531
This is the sex appeal this game needs.

>>542269978
happens in all western countries

HOLY SONIC 2XKO

>>542269934
It's just SS1 lookalike but with more bulging muscles. Trunks uses it against Cell who proceeds to school him on why it's a dumb form. Goku and Vegeta both discovered it but discarded it as useless because of the speed debuff.

>>542270004
I wouldnt mind seeing Lulu
She'd be a funny little gremlin and placing pix to continue combos would be gawdlike
But maybe Zoe would fill the schizo magic gremlin niche better

when are supernoon and leffen gonna duo and mix their semen in tuco too?

wasted hours learning vi's electric combos then hop online and a darius just spams that full screen autocombo into super for 60%

great game

>>542268074
>Search IGN
>2XKO video is there

How come you /fgg/ people are so retarded?

Keep on taking that small yellow Nip dick up your ass for the rest of your life, actual monkey.

>>542270671
darius is an honest mid tier and bi is top tier ur just bad

>>542267126
Apparently some maps lag your game less, some people play on the scuttle island since it apparently lags less than the others
When I was playing on the ionia map my game would straight up crash faster, tho I'm not sure if it's just memory leak things or the maps fault

>>542270762
IGN covering 2XKO could hurt the game.

>>542270816
t. darius spook

>>542270608
i just think lulu is __ugly__ and thats the only reason i dont want her. i wouldnt mind seeing zoe but ill be very surprised if she isnt a year 3+ addition. there are just SO many champs to add

>>542270671
Vi electrics are dumb af when you can do another combo for the same health. It was just dumbasess trying to measure e-pen for no reason.

>>542270671
>wasted hours learning vi's electric
nigga i never touched vi before and i did all her combo challenges a couple hours ago and learned how to do it consistently in 5 minutes. Wtf are you doing?
Just release the button when you see the steam coming out of the gloves

>>542271015
its my first fighting game

>evo top 8ers all dropped yasuo
>2xkog says hes still unbeatable
what does this mean

>>542271195
alright that's understandable
like i said use the steam as visual aid. Immediately release M and do 6S1 again

if sonic fag wins the tourney im uninstalling

>>542271641
sonic just lost ur good
he didnt pussy out and played ww the whole time

>>542271451
>wawa
>k7
>hikari
>leffen
4 of those niggas had yasuo

>>542271641
Dont worry, in about a month or so he'll post a tweet about how he doesn't really like the game anymore because everyone has figured out how to play the game and he cant cheese out wins and he'll go back to pretending to like skullgirls

>>542271195
This is my first real fighting game, nothing like Smash.

>>542271932
every game except sonicfox vs supernoon had a Yasuo and every game has had Ekko

>>542272059
Can't wait for sonic and leffen to stop playing the game.

they should kneecap ekko and yasuo but they wont because they're popular, the sf6 strategy.

>>542247338
Stop liking plastic whores who act cutesy when cameras are on, they are all awful people.

>>542272629
The SF6 strategy is to make no changes for a year and then be like "okay this one normal now has 1 more active frame, let's call it a day". For everything you can blame the retarded devs for, that's not one accusation you can really throw at them.

>>542272278
strive still going strong, love to see it

9k between the eng and fr streams for a side tourney broadcasted on a con booth is kinda crazy.

>>542272395
I dont think Leffen will. unless marvel tokon is a blockbuster hit of a fg he probably wont stop playing, with that said I don't think he'll be relevant until there is a truly broken character within the context of the game like how HC invalidated 80% soives cast, as broken as ekko and yasuo are they don't just out right invalidate the majority of the cast and you can fight back

>>542272784
i more meant that they dont nerf the popular and obviously strong characters but yeah you're right

>>542272395
I'd say Sonic might stay if Tokon ends up being ass. Leffen's gonna stay either way though, from what I've seen, he's looking for any excuse to jump off of Strive.

>french guy wins tournament in france
wow crazy

literally the ONLY good french player btw

uh uh NAbros why are we getting humiliated by a frog? I thought we were the Mahvel gawds?

>wawa won
Dbfz fags are just better

>>542273315
Isn't DBFZ dominated by French players?

twins commentating as ketchup and mustard is a good bit.

This was just meant to be a side exhibition tournament, right? Not like a proper evo tournament?

>>542273580
yeah because only the french are left playing it

>>542273580
The grand finals of DBFZ EVO France were between a burger and a spic.

>>542273637
Yeah, they're streaming from the floor booth, everyone's just watching crowded sitting on the floor.

>>542272278
2xko first and ggbvsr 4th, very nice
>tekken
lmao

>>542273483
were any of the marvel gods even there?

>>542272278
>2xko literally outpacing guilty gear
>at THE GUILTY GEAR EVENT
DOOM SISSIES?!?!?!?!!?

>have barely played cus i keep getting queue anxiety
this isn't even my first rodeo in fighting games but i feel even more anxious since it's a tag fighter

>>542273080
Leffen wants to do the same thing he did to Melee? What a piece of shit, unlikable person full of hatred.
>>542272897
Checks with how Fox worked pre-GC controller patch on Melee for Leffen.

>>542272278
umm based??

>>542272634
yea, they all are
except my waifu

>>542274252
you better play or at least lab in the meanwhile to not get left behind

>>542274067
Rito is literally shelling out an extra 5k reward for it

This isn't a real Fighting Game
FGs are about interacting with the other player
Zero neutral coupled with any light touch leading into corner and guess for game isn't interacting

>>542274067
Yeah, it reminds me when COTW was top3 entrants last EVO, nowadays it's still totally a top3 most played fg and absolutely not a borderline discord fighter.

>>542267126
I've been getting it a lot this morning and I normally don't unless I play for like, an hour. There's severe memory leaks with the client

>>542272278
why is sf6 so low while being the best and most popular fg right now sometime is not right

>>542274418
>left behind
this isn't a gacha bro

SF6 is exceptionally popular in Japan while there's a more even spread elsewhere. I can't tell if we're shitposting or just being ignorant

>>542274706
Frosty has always been an anime event first and foremost and sf6 is hard carried by JP

>>542272278
>Day 10 results
Zzzzz

>Drag on Ballz getting a new character
Damn, fighters can't die anymore huh

>>542274252
are you the same guy who gets upset when they want to leave a set too early because they dont want the other player being mad?

>>542275029
no

>>542270762
one video and its not even getting much traction, its not doing well

>>542274706
I think the whole ppv thing is really souring ppl on sf6 rn. I know at least for me it completely killed any interest I had in watching anything on the pro tour

I cant be the only one

>>542273845
Pretty sure most didn't go or didn't care enough to compete in a side event, I know chrisg and Fchamp didn't go

yaaaay my game's working today

>>542274932
Wouldnt say carried when its the most popular at evo na and evo france

sf6 is ONLY popular in japan. No one gives a fuck about it in eu and na

>>542272278
Doomsissies out in full force today, but 2xKami climbed to second place while not being on main stage EVO, while their Discord figther barely had any views.

What a good day to be a 2xKami player.

at least we're not nen impact LOL

>>542271906
>top 3 with a character released 3 days ago
The biggest husbandofag possible, pretty based honestly

Alongside randomly generated hurtboxes and hitboxes, this game has randomly generated frame data too

Who's a good partner for Teemo? I'm struggling here

>>542276587
No no it's really deliberate how Yasuo gets normal fighting game recoveries while your character waits three business days for a simple normal to end

>>542276589
yasuo

>>542276589
Yasuo
Warwick
Illaoi
characters with really strong assists for zoning that you can swap to in a scramble and win are good

>>542276708
Yasuo feels really privileged

>>542276738
>>542276785
I refuse to play Yasuo so I guess it's one of the other two. Maybe Illaoi.

Daily reminder that air blocking is broken in this game. You're playing a game designed by people who don't understand the most basic details of why fighting games work the way they do.

>>542277139
2H buttons feel like garbage because of air blocking desu it really can be gay sometimes

>>542277124
General teemo play pattern should be to play as lame as possible, then once they get close enough to threaten you, you just throw an assist at them, swap to the assist and beat their ass.

If they're thinking too hard about getting close to you it makes getting mixed out of nowhere is really hard to react to

>>542277203
2H is easily the most awkward button in the game across the board for every character. Attempting to AA people feels like a deathwish

>>542277478
Anti-airing is antithetical to tag fighter gameplay. If jumping like a spastic at every opportunity wasn't extremely strong, it wouldn't be a real tag game.

>>542276708
>>542276851
Ahri, Ekko (This guy has the best framedata by far), Darius and now WW also have Yasuo-like framedata while the rest of the cast don't. I feel like there was a major shift in the balancing philosophy on normals halfway through development so some characters straight up haven't even been updated yet. It's not like the rest have outstanding normals, Braum's normals needed massive buffs this patch to even function while Jinx's normals would still be way worse than Yasuo's if they had slightly better framedata than his yet she has some of the most atrocious frames

>>542276851
he is. while it's a good thing that riot balances frequently and communicates their thoughts, they also play favorites openly and without shame. yasuo will be top tier for the whole game.

>>542274374
>leffen in melee and strive spazz out
Today I will remind them of one dbfzs best matches
https://youtu.be/hD6R6r5sS1U?si=c35cxUaIav53IevR

>>542277725
2H is strong, it's just extremely clunky because it disables your characters body altogether and they have random ass blind spots
However it absolutely should be massively plus on air block or straight up air unblockable desu

the leffen hate is more obnoxious than leffen himself at this point and that dude is obnoxious as fuck.

>>542277949
If they had consistent hitboxes and were air unblockable, that might discourage people from jumping, which goes against the design of a true tag game.

>>542278196
leffen literally pushed a disabled teenager into killing himself.

>>542278183
>>542277762
while I agree some characters have insane normals, you do realize characters are different right. I call this game a kusoge for fun but it would be a genuine one if jinx had fucking yasuo's framedata

darius is the mash friendly dumbass character with retarded normals, there's one in every game
warwick is also rushdown wolf with no fullscreen presence or anything

yasuo has EVERYTHING AND darius-like normals which is absurd

leffen owes me sex

>>542278317
Jumps are high in this game, you have super jumps on top and every single character has a momentum altering option
You can cover your jump with an assist and still need to time your 2H

>>542276095
There's nothing based about furfags, fuck right off

>>542278392
>you do realize characters are different right
In most games a bad normal is like 10f slower in total frames than an average one and has shittier hitboxes and hurtboxes
Not like 30 fucking frames
Also it is a tag game, by the time Braum does his 2s2 Doom straight up covered the entire screen with projectile, we're not even getting to how the options are not equal either

>>542278369
i cant say i know much about the hax situation but i HIGHLY doubt its that cut and dry. seems to me like another situation that, while he was a part of, was exaggerated to the extreme so that others could farm clout off of someone else's unfortunate situation. unless you can give me some actual definitive proof that isnt from a biased source i simply cant believe it

>>542269978
Grim.

dogshit hitboxes
dogshit comeback mechanic
dogshit assists
dogshit neutral
dogshit game
dogshit general
it's over

>>542276589
Depends on how are you gonna play Teemo.

>>542279143
>Jinx giving pats to his dad
Cute.

>>542278803
>i don't know anything about this but i'm going to speak on it anyway
well i have to say a fighting games thread on 4chan is the perfect place for you to be then lol

>>542279143
That's both just all light buttons in this game being actual turds without exception and big body hurtboxes all being turds also
I swear the model to hurtboxes are genuinely like 40% to 50% in this game as opposed to something like 65% which would still be seen as extreme in other games

>>542279487
i asked for evidence and you didn't provide which means you don't know shit either. nice try though squirt.

>>542279270
meant to post this in /sfg/

>>542279791
based

I get that it's muh f2p and all but 2 colors per character is still too little to start out with
Especially considering how expensive they are

>>542279791
>another sissy game obsessed with kami6
many such cases...

>>542280627
>expensive
i get what you're saying but they're also quite literally free

>>542278803
>>542279642
k
Leffen is male Zoe Quinn btw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGGA5lLc6qo

0 meter 0 assist combo from a character whose combos got nerfed btw

>>542280981
>non biased source
>technicals
holy shit you're retarded

>>542281123
k

>>542264490
they didn't do that in season 2 though, they made her a trad wife

>>542281078
>"the combos are too long for our tastes so we nerfed that route"
...ok cool he still does long ass combos anyway

>>542280981
Everything I've seen from hax is that he was probably a schizo tweaker
A talented one, but he probably would have killed himself anyways in some random spazzout, Idk why he gets jerked off

vi seems like she's not very good outside of her assists. she doesnt seem to have much mix

>>542281681
>Best lariat in the game
>EZ OTG and anti air
>Great damage
>The best anti projectile move after windwall
She's good

>>542266702
>watchinging NattyNatt get top 1 in KR
>he says "tsco" (let's go) every 5 seconds because his mudslime friend does too
>it got so ingrained in my brain I couldn't stop laughing when I remembered the name of the game
pronouncing it like this has made me instantly love the name, I love playing TSCO, losing 10 matches in a row and saying "tsco"

>>542274252
You won't beat the anxiety until you do it bro

captcha: ONIONS GT

>>542281576
>>542281078
see >>542277831
riot will not ever nerf this character to be on par. he will always be top tier
just look at his super assist lol
literally as a dead character he is still stronger than half the roster

>>542280726
5 minutes of viewing time have been added to your capcom slime account

>realized i was playing sonicsol then got nervous and dropped some combos
>beat him anyway
That's the 3rd pro I've run into since I started playing.

>>542282004
>best lariat in the game
t. psycho masher that doesn't realize it is unsafe as fuck unless charged for 20f

>>542282919
what was he cooking playing juggernaut tho

>>542282919
He is not a pro
He's literally just some faggot who spams his channel in random generals

>>542281681
She has a built in cross up move, a command throw option in her rekka, and an overhead, how much more do you need

>>542282986
Nothing he wasn't good.

>>542282919
>sonicsol
>pro
Having a Twitch channel doesn't make you a pro bro

>>542283125
i figured but was wondering why he was playing it to begin with

>0 ahris, blitz, braums and Vis in top 32 @ EVO FRANCE

Why? I thought Ahri was godlike?

>>542282920
>Unsafe as fuck
It's literally -7 at WORST in a game where the average 5l is 7f too, why the fuck are you using a lariat at throw range you retarded nigger
This is fighting game 101
It is also a tag game so you can cover the blockstun with an assist and be plus, which is tag fighter 101

>>542283485
>at worst
Go try blocking it while jumping and let me know how minus it is. Try the charged one that is normally plus too.

>>542283342
Why the fuck are you lying there's multiple Ahri and Vi's in top 16 let alone 32

>>542283672
Name them

>>542283650
>Go try blocking it while jumping
?????????????
Do you know why you even use lariat moves????????????????????????????
Don't even @ me again you retarded cum slurper

>>542283835
In every other tag game you use them to force the opponent to the ground with something that's hard to beat while you're in the air. In this one you'll get punished for it. Tell me why you think lariats are good in DBFZ or MVC3.

Anyone who's been playing a lot feel like the ranks are same as before or less overinflated??

why are 2xsissies so combative? the entire game is mickey stop fighting

>>542283709
Nigger if you just wanted names ask them normally don't make shit up
Diaphone got top 9 with Vi Illaoi for example and Noka was also in top 12 with Vi Ekko
I'm surprised by the amount of Dari's that made top 8

Teemo's back assist is so bad, legit the shittiest projectile assist in the game
Granted, his mushroom is way better than Jinx's trap assist to compensate but still

>>542284446
Let's just give this little rat everything then, yeah?

>7 Yasuos
>7 Ekkos
>6 Illaois

Inb4 "they're in a good spot right now, so we will just be doing bug fixes and QoL changes"
Nerfing Ekko is easy. His archetype usually does bad damage, so just nerf his damage A LOT, and his assist.
But how the fuck do you nerf Yasuo without changing his design entirely. He got everything.

>>542284542
They could change it to multiple darts so not going fullscreen wouldn't matter as much and it would be unique
They could change it to his s1 so it would still be shitty but have a unique arc that would make it stand out
Right now it's just a generic fireball except bad

>>542284621

Forgot pic.

>>542284621
>But how the fuck do you nerf Yasuo without changing his design entirely. He got everything.
just cut his damage by about 1/3 and his combo length by about 1/2 and his defense by about 100

>>542284845
>Only 1 Jinx in top 8
Top 3 am I right

>>542284542
Hmm...
Yes

>>542284621
>But how the fuck do you nerf Yasuo without changing his design entirely. He got everything.
Just nerf the fuck out of 1 aspect of his kit, like you said he does everything but he also does everything better than their dedicated characters
He can zone AND anti-zone better than anyone
He has the fastest movement after Ekko
He can solo mix better than anyone
He can hash it out in neutral with everyone and win
He has the strongest solo combos in the game even after two separate nerfs
He gets oki easily where most enders don't let you chase as easily
He is absolutely safe after every single thing in a game where everyone else needs a tag to cover things

He would still be good if you nerfed one of these aspects down to the ground

>>542284079
pls respond

>>542281604
k

>>542285373
i've been sticking to casuals
long sets are just so much more fun
but yeah rank is just always going to be "get to GM easily and then fight over points"

>>542284621
>Yasuo
just completely gut him in some area, make his normals shit, his zoning shit, his damage shit, just something
>Ekko
drastically nerf everything but his close range pressure. if he's trying to play neutral he should always lose, no good 2H, no good air buttons, anything
>Illaoi
no fucking idea honestly, she's the best "support" in the game, beyond busted

>>542285503
>i've been sticking to casuals
So you're a pussy

>>542285712
ft5?

>>542285521
>no fucking idea honestly,
Maybe remove the fucking tentacle slap that hits you from practically fullscreen and anti airs and is also a fucking assist
The bullshit enabler mix master big body shouldn't also have one of the strongest fullscreen tools AND have it available even when not on screen

I don't know where to find things...
So I will ask here...

Does anyone have the following for Darius...

A Midscreen BnB
A Corner BnB
An Air-to-Air Conversion BnB
A Throw Combo BnB

all for solo Darius

>>542286425
I've just been scrolling around here for combos to try out.
https://combotier.com/2xko

>>542285323
>>542285521

I wish they removed stance canceling, and nerfed his damage a little if removing stance cancels isn't enough. I like his design, and I would love to play him if his gameplan revolved around keepaway with pokes. Let him do good damage if he gets in, but don't help him get in, and don't give him the beat oki in the game
Illaoi is almost fine. She is top tier support, but on point she is kinda meh. I would be fine if they made tentacle super 2 bars, or reduced the duration to one or two reps (it's four, iirc)

What does Darius wound do exactly? Like what's increased by what amount and how long does it last?

>>542287249

Increased chip damage (damage you do when they're blocking)

>>542287249
Unique Mechanic - Wound: Sunder, Lacerate and Noxian Might (including the Assist version) wound () his opponent on hit. Wounded champions suffer chip damage while blocking normal attacks, and the damage of Lacerate is increased on hit. Opponent champions are wounded until the team lands a successful attack against him or his assist.

>>542287421
>>542287424
But how much extra damage is added?

>>542287484
About three fiddy

>>542287249
it increases chip damage pretty significantly. certain moves of his do extra chip damage (s2>s2, 6s2>s2, headless) and it's especially noticeable on those. it lasts until he is hit by the opponent with bleed on them.
i'll make an example, one sec

>>542286425
>A Midscreen BnB
5m>5h>6s2>5m>5h>s2>s2>headless
>A Corner BnB
5m>5h>6s2>6m>5h>s2>s2(they are now slumped)>5h>6h>s1>heavy(command grab)>super 1
>An Air-to-Air Conversion BnB
j.m>j.h>s2>super 1
>A Throw Combo BnB
throw>fireball>headless.
if you're in the corner, throw>5m>5h>s1>h(command grab)>super 1

these aren't optimal but they're a good starting place

>yasuo does too much damage
you retards must have never played against ekko, ww, darius, illaoi, vi or blitzcrank
literally only the zoners do less damage than yasuo

>>542287773
Everyone in the game two-touches, and ToDs if fury is involved. There really isn't a noticeable damage differentials in that sense.

>>542284542
They will suffer

>>542287864
characters get two touches from whiff punishing or getting a hit in melee, yasuo gets them from thin air, that's the difference

>>542287773
Optimal solo Yasuo combos are legit higher than solo Ekko, WW, Dari, Illaoi and Blitz right now
BnBs the average person does isn't what pros are doing and yes everyone has high damage but Yasuo is higher

>>542277909
Why does upbacking and backdashing at full screen in that game look hype and in 2xko it looks fucking retarded

>hold forward to roll
>it was a soft knockdown
oh

>>542288213
>Optimal solo Yasuo combos are legit higher than solo Ekko, WW, Dari, Illaoi and Blitz right now
nobody is doing those jS2 combos, realistically you are looking at 400 damage without assists
darius does 600 damage mashing buttons

>>542287484
>>542287249
i fuck up and don't do a perfect unparryable string (and you can pushblock this at any moment of course) but you get the picture. some characters are also much better at taking advantage of this, like illaoi's tentacle super will let you annihilate someone's health when combined with bleed

You can add one character from each region into the game, who do you add?
>Poppy
>Riven
>Orianna
>Twitch
>Veigar
>Nasus
>Kha’Zix
>Yorick
>Tahm Kench
>Pantheon
>Kindred
>Qiyana
>Jhin

>>542288612
also noticing i didn't do the s2s2 in the second string for the bleed example so it actually should've done even more damage lol

>>542288423
>nobody is doing those jS2 combos
Every Yasuo in top 32 in the french tourney is doing 70% off of every hit

ekko is a crime against humanity. throwing a projectile out in neutral and in assists that can put you in a stasis for 10 million years leading to a full combo. whoever designed this character is the peak of absolute retardation.

>>542288735
give me a site with the regions and ill post it

>>542288735
your picks are unironically top tier

only thing is that khazix without rengar is soulless

>>542288860
i meant nobody online, those are pro players

>>542288735
garen, tahm kench, azir, aatrox, panth, swain

>>542289119
This guy sucks dicks

>>542289529
you caught me
here, i'll make you a deal: i get garen and they add literally nothing but your favorite coom champs for the rest of the game's life

>>542289893
garen is super iconic and should've been in the roster immediately

>lost 19 matches in a row against absolute beasts
>i'm only in emerald 1
i know closed beta ranked was fucked but i did much better then than i do now. ekko/vi/yasuo/illaoi/warrick are so fucking nasty
>>542288735
>Poppy
>Orianna
>Nasus
>Tahm Kench
>Kindred
>Kha'Zix
>Jhin

>>542288289
It only looks different because all their assists are dead, beam assists are everywhere there and were 10x more bullshit than anyones here

>>542289893
>coom champs
Thanks but while I do have some picks because of my penis most are actually based on the coolness factor
Also while I do think Garen is extremely fucking boring he is one of the key defining characters so he should've been in yeah

>>542287773

Mein negger, you're looking at it in a vacuum. Think about everything else Yasuo does over those characters you listed. Except Ekko, he can eat shit too.
People complain about his damage, it's because he fucking nukes you on top of dominating the game in every aspect.

I don't think I'm a tag fighting gamer

>can't make Teemo work
>get obliterated
do I really gotta learn Illaoi or Warwick.

I didn't lab Warwick at all, when can I press buttons after all of his shit. His dives seem to be all safe and so is that running overhead. What the fuck is unsafe on this dude

>>542290538
that's a pretty good list desu, love zac draven and rengar especially
i think garen would be cool in this game and i'd love to see his ult animated in 2xko's art style, feel like it'd be sick. but most importantly i just want darius to have his bf

>>542290578
darius has bigger pokes and a command grab
yasuos mixups arent that good, his left right 6s1 is unsafe and his 2s1.s2 isnt a real mixup because the high (air 2h) option is basically suicide

>>542291186
>think I can punish his dive because of decades of experience dealing with moves like this
>it's safe
>eat a 60-70% combo because I tried to play the game
>his 5M has absurd range
>sideswaps everywhere
>absurd damage

>>542290634
You can do it friend, I believe in you

>>542291456
gold

can't remember the last time i wanted to see a game succeed this much
this game is so fun

can't remember the last time i wanted to see a game fail this much
this game is so ass

they did not nerf yasuo enough

>>542292456
>>542292692
b8, m8

>>542291495
>>542291186
the dive that hits high is -6 on block, so if he doesn't call an assist, that's where his pressure ends. the straight tackle is -8, so same thing there. don't let it being -8 fool you, you aren't in range to punish with a 5l. he only has an actual side swap in bloodrage and it's not controlled by the player, he just does it automatically if he's close enough when he presses 6s in blood rage

what rank is everyone?

>>542292692
fuck meant to post this in /sfg/.... sorry my 2xkami brethren

>>542292882
Diamond 1 but i've played exclusively duos with my normie friend who isn't always online

>>542292456
corny
>>542292882
GAWDlike

>>542293234
lmao based

where do I find the vod for 2XKO? Youtube shows me nothing

>>542292875
good to know. he feels oppressive as fuck, which makes sense, but coupled with the damage, demon flip shenanigans, and certain assists, he feels impossible to deal with

Any good content creators to watch to get better at the game? Is Diaphone good or is it a trap to watch that guy.

>>542294295
yeah he is really fucking strong and especially on certain teams he can just do whatever he wants and get away with it sometimes

It's so weird to meet someone who unironically likes Max's content

>want the battle pass Teemo skin
>it's all the way at level 50
what the fuck

>>542294726
100 days to get it bro

>>542295361
but I want it NOW

>>542290538
>KASSADIN
VOIDWAAAAATCCHHHH
how would he work in the game? I think giving him something similar to Hakumen's Magatama system where you stall around playing defensively and throwing his little voidballs until your meter bar is stacked to the point one full combo nukes the enemy to mimick his 8 stack ult at level 16

hello?

>>542298654
hi!

>>542284079
they seem just as inflated

>>542291185
Teemo is possibly the hardest champ in the game
He only works if you're fucking cracked out of your ass

why the fuck is it taking so long to find a placement match

>>542301415
you're too gdlk they're trying to find someone that can beat you

>>542301415
sometimes you need to end queue and restart and it pops instantly idk
shits goofy

>>542301235
yeah i'm losing everything. i can't zone properly. i'm getting obliterated by vi/ekko/yasuo who just ignore everything teemo wants to put out, and i'm bored with illaoi
might have to dumpster this character. i can do his loops but i never get a chance to because he dies after one touch

>>542267570
"You keep ripping off of other fighting games, why not rip off of Jojos Bizarre Adventure? Vex and her stand - Shadow."
>"OH YEAH WHY DIDN'T WE THINK OF THAT!
Also add Rumble as a Rising Thunder knockoff.
>"FUCK WE'RE SO STUPID! WE SHOULD'VE BEEN THAT LAZY IN THE FIRST PLACE!"
Done.

matchmaking takes forever. dead game.

>>542267570
Teemo is a Riot Games plant. Nobody actually likes him, but he's a meme mascot. No Yordle but Vex of Poppy deserve in desu

>>542303623
Who here has a reddit account. We need to start a campaign

oh my fucking god I hate jumping and the opponent crosses me over from below. in usually characters have buttons to hit directly below them but not here besides blitz
ww has that shit ass backwards crunch I can never hit shit with
this game is too hard

>>542303297
For what it's worth, you do have options for everything Vi/Ekko and yasuo can try to do
Mostly it's just call assist at the right time to smoke their ignorant option but there is counterplay

>>542304108
oh yeah, i'm sure there are, i just stop thinking midmatch and freak out when they're threatening me with shit

>>542304053
it's weird. they're super afraid of having anything hit as a crossup except for j.2h and certain especially privileged characters (yasuo) but they're totally okay with things that're 800000000x more degenerate

>>542303895
Ehm I love Teemo and playing Teemo thoughbeitly.
I hate Vex when she's against me in mid lane fuck that bitch
Wouldnt be against Poppy though

>>542304108
>and yasuo
Uuh
What's the counterplay to him setting up a windwall to nullify all your things

>>542303623
speaking of jojo, which fighting game had the first puppet character? i figured it was zato from guilty gear but apparently the jojo fighter came out around the same time. i cant think of any older fighters with puppet characters but i wouldnt be surprised if a kof or something had one first

>>542304481
If you super jump you can get a rock over the windwall with the correct angle and tap him on the head.
You can parachute over his windwall slash and get a combo if he does it at the wrong spacing too

>>542304053
No fucking clue what you're on about since this game has a higher than usual ratio of characters with insane crossup buttons. Play Illaoi if you want to never ever whiff an air button.

>>542304703
blitz does have a godlike j.2H for sure but warwick's is kinda ass

>>542304773
dont you have that gigantic axe kick one? or is that only from his demonflip

>>542304773
some of them are giga privileged it's true
i think this game must lack a battle director or something to keep things cohesive

>>542304894
just from his flip, but fair enough that one is pretty good, but jumping with flip is not always good, you're vulnerable

>>542291495
>claims decades of experience
>surprised a divekick is safe
Just be glad it's not +, the fuck

>>542304580
3 games all have claims over that title.
>Jojos - Specifically Devo (Literal puppet character)
>GG with Zato
>Asura Blade - Alice
THEY ALL CAME OUT THE SAME YEAR.
>Technicality - Guilty Gear came out earlier that year.
Zato -is- the first puppet character.

Burst is the worst mechanic ever invented and allows the devs to be lazy

reminder that in tns top 8 every single team had either jinx ekko or yasuo (zoners)

EVO FR Top 8:
Wawa: Yasuo Ekko

Supernoon: Darius Ekko

Sonicfox: Ekko Warwick

k7: Darius Yasuo

Mystic: Jinx Illaoi

Hikari: Illaoi Yasuo

Leffen: Teemo Yasuo

Senshii: Ekko Illaoi

>>542303898
>plebbit

>>542308132
>Watched Leffen go from qualifiers to master
>Every nigger playing this shit picks Yasuo
NO SURPRISE. Boring. How tf does a league fighting game not have bans yet?

>>542308598
Not enough characters to ban.

>>542308584
nigga there's no way the devs will be taking notes from a /vg/ thread
we gotta dance with the devil

>>542305265
ok in my defense none of my friends played characters with divekicks

>>542308598
>Buy the new hotness
>Banned.
Just like real league LMAO. The asshurt would be huge

why would anybody get the stages in this game if you cant even pick them guaranteed?

>>542309849
Friendlies?
>>542309772
Plz, make it happen.

bored af

im about to call ICE on my neighbors

FUCK YEs
it might be the greatest teemo neutral of all time

i fucking hate autocombos so fucking much

>I got sponsored for 2XKO
>my stream only has 1 viewer (my sister)
kino

i'm in a ranked lobby where every fucking person has the 140 dollar skins

>>542312754
>20 whiffed moves in 20 seconds
2xkohasnoneutral sisters...

What's Teemo's BnB for the love of god help meeeeeeeee

>>542313521
https://combotier.com/2xko/c/Teemo

they're calling it the worst ahri parry of all time
Look at my chip awareness though, my sniping of the backline you get that from playing 10 years of teemo in silver trust
>>542313521
you do shroom loops
shit is hard as fuck though I drop it all the time
I do the start of it here >>542312754
It's like M2MHH partial [2H] jump (forward mushroom in midscreen, jump neutral mushroom in corner) M partial [2H] mushroom loop up to 3 times, eventually do an aircombo to end it.

>>542313364
tbqh the skins themselves arent 140 dollars
if you price a character at about 12 canadian dollars (the price of a street fighter character), the 8 tokens are worth about 96 dollars.
Then the 5000 KO points are worth about 60 canadian dollarinos so the total price of the skins comes out to -16 dollars that's pretty good

These restand combos that require a 2H into just frame charged air H are cool but I might as well stop practicing them because I'm not even landing it 5 out of 10 tries.

>>542314420
i know, but i'm still shocked that so many people bought it in the first week. influencers or maybe big names in the FGC, i get it. it's an investment. but it just feels weird seeing so many (seemingly) normal people invest in something they're not even sure they'll like.
i've played in three alphas and i still can't justify it to myself

>>542314767
Well with 90 dollar games and 30 dollar season passes coming out these days it's not so crazy.
The number of 80 dollar games I still haven't finished is kinda fucked up man, looking back. Idk how I justified those in the moment

>>542314961
i still haven't bought a few games because of their rising costs. i'll probably get the starter pack in a few months, chip at it bit by bit if i'm still playing, but i still haven't found my main yet. ekko's arcane skin looks too good to pass up for long

>>542315154
you can wait for the skin to be in your store

>>542315352
oh they confirmed it's coming later? probably in a year or some shit

>>542314767
The value of the starter pack gets lower and lower the longer you play and the more characters you unlock through grinding, because then you have nothing to use those champion unlock tokens on wheras if you've unlocked everyone with tokens you can spend your credits on colors or whatever else. When I played League fucking ages ago in highschool I decided to buy that physical collector's edition because despite it being expensive it came with all of the original champions plus skins plus currency.
I'd consider buying one of the starter packs for 2XKO if it had champions I actually cared about or skins I wanted, but as it is now I'm just going to grind to unlock one or two because I still don't give a shit about Arcane.

>>542315457
>i was in college when league came out
I bought that shit too. I fuckin forgot they existed

i have no idea how to deal with teemo
i can't beat a decent one that knows how to play keepaway

>realize I'm pretty good with Ahri
>no idea who to pair her with now
>none of her skins appeal to me
fuck

>>542315589
I kind of wish I stuck to playing League a little longer before jumping ship to Dota, I stopped playing entirely around 2011 because of how fucking busted Lee Sin was and I was having to deal playing against that blind cunt every game and I was fed up with it. I recovered my League account last week so I could use it to play 2XKO. I guess it was hacked or something at some point, but I referenced some old emails and the fact I bought the collector's edition that gave me the Silver Kayle skin to Riot's account recovery people and they reset it back to my email.

>>542314767
people will play 100+ bucks just to get to play a game a week or less early these days.

Why does Emerald rank feel like the sweatiest shit ever. It felt like Silver rank in beta

BOOOOM BABY

We need Shadow Isles rep

Someone carry me through ranked >w<

>>542317016
because it's primarily the same players playing early access
and people are getting better at the game
(emerald is still really bad for what i'd think emerald is supposed to be)

need gwen rn

>>542317824
you're supposed to use ranked to get good lil sis :3

>>542317924
I breezed through Emerald in the beta and got stuck just below grandmaster before finally getting through. Matches felt mostly even but here, on 'launch', i'm getting bodied by people who feel way beyond my skill level.

>>542318073
>w< carry me in casuals then...

>>542317636
it will probably be thresh and viego but imagine if we got hecarim

>>542318103
Beta had fucked up mmr if you started early
so a shitton of masters and diamonds didnt deserve to be there at all and stunk up the ladder so bad anyone could hit GM

>>542318141
i can carry you to my bedroom >:3

>>542318509
nyooo... casuals or ranked >w<

bend or break

What MAJOR fighting game archetypes are we still missing, and which champs would be the best fit?
>Puppet - Annie, Yorick, Ivern
>RNG Item spam - Zoe, Twisted fate?
>Character with 50 special moves - Hwei, Ryze?
>Install character - Aatrox, Swain, Briar, Riven
>generic Shoto - Ezreal, Lee Sin
>actual real stance character not yasuo - Qiyana, Udyr, Jayce, Nidalee, Elise, kinda too many actually

>>542318882
does warwick not count as an install?

>>542319248
If you dont spend a bar of meter on nothing to get and it doesnt change the background music, it dont count

>>542319378
i feel that latter part would exclude a good number of installs but maybe i just dont remember the music changing

what archetype would gwen be

>>542319937
Probably bad.

>>542315737
Surely the swimsuit lineup comes out soon since they had it before

>>542245142
Warwick is not furry

>>542319937
Maybe she'd just be a shoto with her needle throws but you can like stitch some thread through the needles to make tripwires or someshit idk

this game needs to improve its visuals asap
and im not even talking about fancy particles or shit like that
characters not having a transition animation while looking forward>backward makes it look like an indie game
rounds ending also need more impact... like a player won and everything stops like nothing happened lmao you gotta hype it up riot

>>542322250
The game looks really good but the transition animations is probably the biggest pain point, makes it look a bit jank. Hopefully they fix that before 1.0.

Would you still like me if I was the worst ahri player on the planet?

>>542322250
you just need them finisher animations to make round ends cool

>>542322580
The Arcane Finisher is awful...

Anyone having issues getting their Dualsense controller to work? Regardless of what I do, this game just refuses to recognize it.

>>542322250
>>542322390
I heard a theory that the reason they dont have transition animations is to make the rollback look better
Supposedly it's harder to tell when rollback occurs if everything is snappy in the game but it's kind of a shit tradeoff imo

>>542322724
Controller doesn't light up and you can't use options button?

>>542322978
It lights up and works everywhere else. Options button or any other button won't work though, be it wireless or wired. It's literally just this game and I'm at a loss as to why, since everyone says it's natively supported.

>>542322393
Depends, there's bad bad and redeemable bad
Which one are you?

>>542323246
irredeemable...

>>542323213
it is natively supported, if it isn't working try ds4windows to emulate it as an xbox controller

>>542323213
Have you tried connecting it wired before opening the game?

>>542322724
steam could be fucking with it so you could try closing that. microsoft gameinput. etc. my controller works just fine though it still shows fuckass xbox buttons in game

SHOULD I PLAY AHRI OR WARWICK WITH MY JINX FRIEND IN DUOS

>>542323426
>>542323489
Yep, I've done basically every troubleshooting method, disabling Steam included.
>>542323406
Ended up having to do this, installed DualsenseX, emulated it as an Xbox360 controller, and now it works flawlessly. I still have no clue what's stopping it from just recognizing the Dualsense though.

>>542323649
Do you want to help with the keep out or being able to solo things
In that order for the answers

>>542323736
I WANT TO HELP WIT HTHE KEEP OUT

>>542323861
Same order of answers as the questions nigga, ahri then

>>542323286
You might have to give up on your dreams then
Darius and vi are more beginner friendly I believe, but if you want to stick it out on ahri, she's pretty fun

>>542324129
>You might have to give up on your dreams then

>>542313032
Low elo ass comment

have they fixed the stutters?

>>542324894
Kill yourself

>>542323707
Weird, I play wired to a USB C port. Got the problem twice and normally fixes when restarting the game. The other time I used a Dualsense controller was to play on PCSX2.

>waits for me to pick first
>ekko and yasuo
>freestyle fuse
>uses paid skins
>roundstart backdash mash
Yep, that's a one and done and blocked and reported combo
I'm not playing against you subhumans

what fuse should I use with Teemo? It feels like he doesn't synergise too well with Double Down

>>542324927
no

>>542325221
Juggernaut

>round start
>5 backdashes
>sit full screen
>refuse to move
>time out
>round start
>7 backdashes to full screen
>refuse to move
>time out
>roundstart
>5 backdashes to full screen
>refuse to move
>time out
can
i
fucking
play
someone
that
isnt
a
fucking
cuck
and actually wants to play the god damn fighting game instead of just picking zoner + big buttons and sitting full fucking screen it is so fucking boring and the fact i need to be playing defense ON MY OFFENSE is fucking retarded god damn whatever retards at riot hired the faggot devs that designed effectively 5 zoners before thinking about the now 2 rushdowns available at launch

>>542324894
cute. i like you, don't kill yourself

>>542325221
2x assist for max zoning
freestyle for calling an assist mixing then just tagging back and zoning again
>>542325339
>>542325358
jugger players dont get rights, learn to play the real game
imagine complaining about zoning while refusing to use a free projectile that bodyblocks for you with 0 startup and 0 recovery LOL

>>542325562
im not even playing juggernaut anymore out of frustration and am now running warwick vi but guess who has ass assists and doesnt hit effectively full screen

>>542325358
Who do you play nigga

>>542325816
Xerath

>>542325816
tryndamere

When are they adding Volibear?

>>542325631
I can only presume you are dogshit at the game and dont know how to press buttons
if you cant get in in a game where you can just jump hold block call assist and active tag whenever to get in with any character not to mention ones with fullscreen invul supers and projectile invul dashes

>>542326403
>Another braindead close range big body character
He's probably the next character considering the state of this game

As slim as my hopes are, the fact that Braum is already character that fights with a shield means I've got absolutenly no shot of Singed making it in, huh?

>>542326570
isnt the caitlyn leak real?

>>542327991
>Both Darius and WW have sideswitch throws too
Yeah probably not soon, unless they include him in the new season of arcane

>>542328186
We dunno and even if it is there's a few others on the list too

>>542327991
i feel like he'd be pretty hard to translate to a fighting game. would they have to make him some kind of grappler who wants to poison you then run away or what?

>>542327991
Sorry man Singed aint getting into anything
dude wouldnt even get into the league of legends if he had to get in again

>>542328424
>Character who has to work hard to get in
>Has to start playing keepout after applying strong DoT
That would be a novel idea

>>542327991
he can get in
he was in arcane

>>542328217
I didn't mean his mechanical niche was already taken moreso his flavor niche, The Guy With The Shield. It would be like if in a Marvel game you had Thor and Beta Ray Bill when they're basically carbon copies of each other at a glance. Sure that has a lot of precident with shoto clones in Street Fighter but I imagine Riot is going to want to diversify the cast.
>>542328424
>>542328634
Most poison mechanics in fighting games are nonlethal, short-lived and exists to add on combo damage, most of the time when you poison someone with AKI, FANG, Valentine etc you go on offense. Only thing I can think of with Singed is to land a hit and then use a super or something to turn on Poison Trail, combo into Fling and throw them fullscreen and then harass them by throwing Mega Adhesive bombs. With Poison Trail active dashing forwards or backwards would leave lingering poison smoke that damages, so while you're backdashing to keep fullscreen you'd be leaving poison behind.
>>542328658
Still haven't actually watched Arcane but from what I saw he's the villain, but all he's doing is scheming background mad scientist stuff instead of anything cool.
>>542328535
Fuck you.

>>542325358
Tag fighters are defensive games. You don't have to take much risk and if you do you're retarded and will lose. Play different games or develop some patience.

>>542331194
>2_magnetos_pressing_together_at_roundstart.webm

>>542331458
Defensive because the offense is so overwhelming. You gotta be the guy that avoids taking the hit so you can run your own greasy bullshit.

>>542325221

You can only tag during a super with double down. People are finding crazy shit with his dart super.

>>542332639
It's funny how they nerfed Jinx's super only to add something nearly as potent as that when it was at its best (WW's super) and something just plain better (Teemo's)

>>542332814
The only thing they nerfed about Jinx was the combo damage after it, don't WW's and Teemos also scale the combos or do they not? Haven't looked into it so much

>>542334269
>combo damage
No, also combo gravity which doesn't matter for Teemo's because how long that one lasts
WW's has the added benefit of a couple frame gap at the end to allow for real crossups unlike Jinx's but obviously despite its massive hitbox it's not a literal fullscreen projectile

>>542307528
Yeah, burst is a bandaid so you don't have to balance offense or add meaningful defensive mechanics
I'm starting to think the same about Parry too

>>542336086
What meaningful defensive mechanics do you have in mind that you prefer?
Burst is the only real combo breaker mechanic you can have in a game that doesn't become overly centralizing or asscancer to play against

>>542314420
you can't be serious
>>542314961
no you mongoloid, it is absolutely crazy
this is the shit you'd see on Reddit, I'm not expecting Einstein to be posting here but I expect you to at least have self respect

>>542244754 (OP)
>Play Teemo/Braum
>Go against Ekko/Darius
>After first round dude goes afk
>Match ends
>Calls me a nerd
>Re queue
>Go against Yas/Illaoi
>Same thing happens
Why are meta fags like this? They cant fight the dream meme team. Yas and Ekko fags truly are 3 ranks higher then they should be.

>play a team to make people mad
>people get mad
>why are these people mad??
retard

>>542336528
There are people that will pay 400 dollars for tekken and all the dlc cosmetics and characters without batting an eye and then proceed to play 6 hours and 2 characters out of it.
Idk what you define crazy to be but it's certainly not out of the ordinary for casuals to drop a hundred dollars on shit they dont play

>>542337067
When shit was affordable (see: Street Fighter 4 where you'd get 5 costumes for $3.99) I would buy every costume that released because it wasn't a big deal and it felt nice to have everything available when playing around the whole cast when having friends over. Starting with the generation after that it's been practically out of the question to even consider doing with how much money it would cost.

and there are people who eat shit

>>542336758
I played into a braum as teemo and that shit made me almost break my controller
I'd rather play into another dozen yasuos than a few good braums
Got any funny clips btw?

>>542337428
If you didn't know, most fighting games make 90% of their money off of casuals.
Casuals will buy a game and the season pass and then watch the supers in training mode and play like 2 online matches.

So, the number of people who will drop money on this stuff =/= the number of people who eat shit. Your post is a false equivalency.
You won't see companies advertising their shit at the side of the road to sell, nor will you ever see a billboard advertising the new hot shit to pick up and guzzle down.

However you will see the new 500 dollar dlc pack, and you'll only see more and more bro. Buckle in

>>542336758
tbf your team sounds like a fucking nightmare, but only if you sorta know what you're doing

>>542336086
Yeah parry is also gay especially in a game like this.

>>542337393
Funny thing, I actually know someone who owns every single skin in league
All 2000 and something of them, worth like what 25 thousand dollars?
Doesn't even have a crazy job or anything
All that to say, basically, the world's cooked we're never going back.

>>542338459
>I actually know someone who owns every single skin in league
based skin enjoyer

>>542338428
>>542336086
I love parry personally
I think it would've been an amazing mechanic if it were in BBTAG honestly that game had so many inescapable pseudo infinites and neutral skips.

What's so bad about it?
It's pretty easy for you to play around if you know they look for it.
Literally just throw or go low or wait for 10 frames.

What are shroom loops exactly? I haven't checked any online info for combos yet

>>542338459
Buying every skin in League of Legends (except those skins that go for hundreds of dollars that I don't know how they work) is infinitely more reasonable than buying the $100 bundle and I'm saying this completely unironically

>>542337531
Sorry, no clips. I dont record anything. I just game and vibe.
>>542337902
How so? Braum is considered the worst character in the game and i dont really consider Teemo to be that great either. Granted he can be really annoying to deal with, but half over half the cast can just ignore everything he does.

>>542339193
affects certain characters far more intensely than others for one, same with push block. actually a huge part of why yasuo will permanently be top tier and all the big bodies with the exception of illaoi will stay comfortably mid

>>542339313
the gigaexpensive skins are just a straight up gacha

>>542339313
>spending tens of thousands of dollars on skins is infinitely more reasonable than spending 100 dollars on skins
?

>>542339364
I'm not saying Braum is super strong or even broken, but he can be frustrating to fight against. Coupled with Teemo, you're basically playing a game of chipping away at your opponent's patience and sanity

>>542339378
They kind of built in counterplay to parry into certain moves though
Stuff like Illaoi's mix or Braum charges you can vary the timing of to throw off parry windows.
Stuff like Darius hook will always be parryable because it's canned yeah but Braum was actually super broken in alpha 2 if you played back then. Guy would just curbstomp yasuo and ekko back then, shit was crazy.

>Queue up causal
>Only really know 2 champs so far
>Darius Ahri
>Queue into a Teemo/Illoai player
>I win 2 rounds
>For some reason I accept a third match
>He adapts his teemo to maximize cheese
>Saves teemo for last and then uses fury when he gets a good combo
>2/2 now
>5th round, I started to adapt as well
>Found out that he doesn't know any teemo melee combos when we timed out a match cause he was playing keep away
>Also found out he doesn't know how to dodge the darius command grab
>Since he save's teemo for the anchor I just focus on keeping both my fighters alive
>Sure enough he backdashes to the end of the stage and starts spamming projectiles
>I just parry and block
>First round get a time out with like 80% health lead
>2nd round, same strat but he's getting desperate now
>Tries to slowly bridge the gap with shrooms
>Does a stupid jump in
>I fuck his ass with a S3
>3-2 I'm allowed to leave
>Dude is raging in the chat

I love when fighting games have chat

Loving playing as Darius and Warwick.

>>542340908
What's your combo for Warwick point into Darius assist extension?

>>542339761
look at dem toes doe... oh nonono i gotta coom again

>>542339741
Fair enough

>>542340192
I see nothing but seethe in the chat, its so funny
The avatar system is a little too boring though, we really need some bigger lobbies and dance emotes so people start having parties and public erp sessions

Teemo is so annoying to play
Idk if I'm retarded but I kind of need to see what my character is doing to know where I'm blocking.
He's so short I legit can't tell if I'm blocking high or low and I get mixed more often.
I'm probably just retarded though ig

>>542339761
darius' hook can at least be MADE usable if you build your team around it, but yeah, without good usage of assists it's pretty much unusable lol

>>542341203
nta but i'll post two that i use a bit:
https://files.catbox.moe/ka8bfu.mp4

5m>2m>5h>3h>2s2>4t(apprehend assist)>5h>2h>j.m>j.h>j.s1>6s2>s2>s2>s2>super 2>double down headless
note that the apprehend call has to be made on about the second hit of the 2s2

>>542341203
>>542343593
and another one.

5m>2m>5h>2h>j.m>j.h>j.s1>6s2>s2>s2>s2>6t(tackle assist)>run forward>2s2>maximum spider>double down if you want
either super works for the double down (headless probably better just because it applies bleed: activate it the instant ww hits the last hit of his super)

>>542343974
durr i didn't post the fucking link
https://files.catbox.moe/qkrswb.mp4
i was originally gonna make these webms that's why they're separate posts okay my bad

>>542339489
Yes

>>542343974
>>542343593
>>542344067
Thanks. What exactly does bleed do? The movelist tooltip said a bleeding enemy took increased damage from specials that apply bleed but it didn't seem like it from when I looked at the damage numbers in training.

>>542344879
check this out >>542288612
you can see basically the same string twice, once with bleed once without

>>542343593
>>542344067
Is there a lower damage combo that gives oki instead? Ideally in the corner too? By no means am I a great fighting game player but isn't it worth it sometimes to lose damage but get oki? Especially if its in the corner? Maybe SF6 and Strive have ruined me?

>>542345763
i don't really have any oki or setup stuff for these characters unfortunately, brain too small

>>542345763
I've seen combos where once you're at the corner you combo into dS1 crossthrough, wall cling, then use either the light or medium extender to cross up or cross through again.

How do I complete the First Steps achievement? I want my nerdy glasses and I swear I've done all the tutorials

>>542346389
gotta duo

>>542346635
are you serious

>>542346860
yea go to progression and press x

>>542346971
>none of my friends want to touch this game
this blows

>>542347104
ask a random in lobby. alternatively if you're in na i'll do it with ya

i hate anime notation, i hate zoners, i hate having too many buttons, i hate long ass combos, i hate throws
whats the game for me

>>542347549
you sure you just don't like fighting games? fuck I don't know lil bro try Virtua Fighter, you got three buttons

i hate redditman so fucking much it's unreal
stop underrating him everyone who plays this game is a fucking retard

>>542347549
SF6 seems like the only game you'd like. Maybe Tekken8?

>>542347549
slime is probably more up your alley

>>542347549
>i hate throws
lol don't play a fighting game

>>542348071
>>542348019
>I hate throws
>suggest sf6
cruel niggas

speaking of, are throws reactable in 2xko? or is it guessies

>>542348245
guessies

nobody flashes their stickers in lobby
except me
i'm always making people look at darius

>>542348245
Thats a solid fuck no. There is ao much shit to watch out for, grabs allways catch me off guard.

>>542348245
messie guessies

I HAVE YASUO FATIGUE
EVERYONE WHO PLAYS YASUO/WHOEVER IS SO BAD WITH THEIR NON-YASUO CHAR
AND IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER

Is the Evo frog tourney on YouTube?
>>542349004
they did a terrible job at letting people know that shit even exists
I only learned about it like 10 minutes before uninstalling. and when I booted up the game for the first time I made sure to set up a nice little profile, but somehow missed that
the UI/UX in this game is terrible

>>542350756
UI/UX being terrible is an inherent part of tag fighters. If you make the UI/UX good, you lose a fundamental part of the tag fighter experience. Nobody wants a tag fighter with good UI.

2xko is too mechanically simple of a game for aphelios to exist in, but in another universe he's nine the phantom-ing all over the place

>Yasuo is hard to use so its fair that hes so strong
Is this good game design in a fighting game?

>>542351264
yasuo is easy to use though
and no, it never is

>>542351173
>2xko is too mechanically simple of a game
Phrase said by no-one, ever.

>>542351173
meanwhile, in real life:
>special 1 plus any direction to change weapon
>special 2 to use different specials with each weapon
like no man this is pretty easy to put in the game

>>542351296
maybe they mean character wise yea they are really simple system wide yea stupid thing to say it fucking tagslop

>perfected an ekko/yasuo player
i didn't even win the set but hoooooly fuuuuuck you are fucking TRASH get FUCKED you fucking subhuman filth

Who are the 2-3 hardest/most technical characters in the game?
Who are the 2-3 easiest/most simple characters in the game?

>>542351296
i worded it wrong, sorry
my point was that it's just harder with the lack of more attack buttons and motion inputs

>>542350625
You are not the only one brotger. Yasuo and Ekko players are carried by their characters toolkits. The are 2-3 ranks higher then they actually should be. No respect for yas and ekko fags. Zero, you are not talented.

>>542270671
vi and yasuo (yes this will make shitters mad) are the weighted characters, you play them so when you switch to an actually braindead character (the rest of the cast) it's like 2 tons have come off your limns

is it just me or does warwick feel like shit to play? for what is supposed to be a really agile character his combos have really weird timings

>>542353668
i've been playing him since he dropped and i still fuck up 6s2>rekka all the time. ESPECIALLY in blood frenzy mode, because it has different timing.

Another day, another 2xKami WON day.

>>542354134
2xKINO
2xKAMI
2xKINGS

someone here said that all of the characters in the game were just functions from characters in other games, go ahead and list the ones in the game currently

>>542352971
If they really want to push the upper limit of what they can do with two special buttons they can fit six different special to each button (forward, backward, down, neutral, diagonal forward, diagonal backward) so double that with airborn specials. On top of that they can make more stance/rekka attacks you can button out of like Darius pull or Warwick's demon flip.
I imagine they don't want to do that to keep the complexity low, but they have room.

>>542354354
Jinx has doom vibes, warwick clearly wolverine, ahri obvious magneto, braum is hulk rip off, blitz is obviously zangief yasuo with is stance shit is viper, liat goes on and on.

>>542354648
i want the whole list

>want to try out other characters
>still not sure if I'm ready to put money down on this game
what do I do bros

>>542354354
p much everyone who tries to make 1:1 lists is wrong

>>542355028
all chars free in training mode

>>542355050
I mean in online play. I've labbed a few characters that I wouldn't mind trying in an actual game (mainly Vi)

>>542355115
ohhh yeah that kind of sucks. i've managed to unlock a third character after spending my first two tokens, but it's a bit of a slog
you DO know you can spend the points you get for dailies/weeklies on champs, yes? it costs like 10k though

>>542355394
how did you get a 2nd token?

>>542356641
gotta finish the first step missions, one of which is "play 5 games as a duo"

>>542356673
ah yup that's the only one I haven't done yet, I'll yell at one of my friends to do it tomorrow

I get punish when thrown on wakeup. is it because I try to throw break too early?

combos are too long for how formulaic/bread and butter most of them are

>>542358264
can't break throws after techrolling in this kuso

>>542350756
>the UI/UX in this game is terrible
turns out having a game made by fans and not actual game devs means everything but the combo game suffers.
>>542350903
>UI/UX being terrible is an inherent part of tag fighters.
no it's not, it's called having shit devs that doesn't put care into the rest of the game
> If you make the UI/UX good, you lose a fundamental part of the tag fighter experience.
this is pure bullshit and just trying to excuse a terrible part of the game

>you can just press neutral dash to option select the tecroll direction
gay

>>542359946
oh thank you

>>542359801
Are you perchance autistic?

>>542327991
no one wants to play as an ugly cranky mofo. Fightans chars needs to be cool

impressed?

>>542361394
first fighting game?

>>542361583
no_

>>542361394
Good job annon-chan!

>>542361394
i am, actually
i can't imagine what iron level play is like

>>542360902
Get mixed, get mixed, swirl, get mixed.

>>542362108
i dont even know why i placed so low, i had 3 wins 2 losses

>>542363196
it uses your casual mmr, too
went 3-2, too, and placed emerald

>>542353723
>>542353668
..don't you just mash that shit?

>>542363457
The first hit of S2 has two hits, if you mash it you only get the first hit before it cancels into the extension. I don't think it's worth doing, but he might.

Did all you fags drop Jinx too? I'm sticking with her but it's rough man. I'm currently watching Mystic play to pick up on stuff but he's getting his ass beat.

It may be over for us.

>>542364996
she was overnerfed
just stick it out through this dark period
main character privilege means she'll be rebuffed soon enough

Wawa and Noka the only good EU players everyone else is mid.

>>542365467
big leff..?

>>542365616
Lol

>>542365467
How did Noka do at Evo?

>>542366102
9th But he's played longer than most, also the only one to beat Hikari in an online tournament. Almost just beat Noon in this crew battle today

Daily reminder that air blocking is still broken in this game and the developers have only indicated that they're going to make things worse. You are playing a game that is being developed by people who don't understand even the most basic details of how to make fighting games function.

>>542366809
Why is air blocking broken I don't understand

>>542366809
whats broken about it? i noticed i get hit sometimes trying to dash block as well

>>542366843
>>542366880
You have better frame advantage blocking in the air than grounded. You can't be high/low mixed in the air. Holding up back is stronger in this game than it ever has been before and tag fighters are already notorious for devolving into upback+assist with zero other interactions.

Who do they think wants to watch this shit

Why didn't Leffen play in the crew battle?

>>542366994
i thought this shit was over yesterday?

>>542366987
they're aware
that's why they made jump startup frames worse
(they should've just made the time to block longer, rather than slowing down jumps)

>>542367071
yesterday was the tournament
today is just exhibitions
earlier today was NA vs EU
now it's just duo exhibitions

>>542367085
Yeah the fix here is to make blocking in the air less advantageous, not to make jumping startup take forever. They're smearing a bandaid made of human poop on a wound that can be closed instantly if they stop trying to be special.

>>542367018
He did, he won against the worst NA player

>>542361861
>spoiler
huuuhh then yes it's surprising. first tag game maybe?

>>542366987
>>542366809
does jumping have frames of vulnerability on startup?
I try to block jump but always get hit. maybe I get hit by lows I guess

>>542368113
it does have vulnerable startup frames

>>542368019
it is my first tag game but i didnt think i was that bad, maybe low pop region caused it or something

>>542368139
then it SUCKS the fuck is that anon saying

>>542367085
I've felt this, getting hit at the start of my jump frames like when playing against a blitzkrank who pulled you

>>542368181
then it's normal
I'm max rank on every fighting game I played and I fucking suck dick here lol tag games are really hard
earlier I was hitting a dude in a combo and forgot the fucking teemo assist from behind and raped me, I dont have the mentality for tag games

>>542368181
>>542361861
My first day of dbfz I spent 8hrs in training trying to learn combos & assist combos. Going from traditional to tag games requires you to rewire your brain.

>>542368215
>has no idea how many frames are vulnerable
>IT SUCKS!
quality contribution

>>542370629
why is there not a wiki with all this information available

>>542370793
first you gotta cultivate enough fucking nerds who care enough to collate the data and put it somewhere

>>542370793
When the devs get something as basic as air blockstun completely backwards it dissuades people who understand those concepts from being interested in the game.

>>542371594
I think the devs should make this information public to begin with. I'd add a small wiki in-game telling you all this stuff
It's an autistic game but... doesn't have autistic care to detail like this

>>542352971
>>542351173
nigga WHAT do you mean yas has like 16 specials with his stance shit
Just make a gun swap stance, where you can enter and then input a button or a special to swap to a gun, and you're totally fine
gunswap stance -> L M H S1 S2 = his 5 guns on a single special move
Not even the upper limit considering you could use up down left and right to get to 9 different guns if you wanted to make it more autistic

>>542364996
I still play her but I wanted to learn Teemo so I've been doing that too

>>542351173
Also, Nine is a very odd example to bring up for complicated characters considering she doesnt even have that many special key bindings

She accesses her specials through hitting normals and then using a universal button, something that, while complex, would be pretty easy to implement in any fighting game, even like smash would be able to do that.
Sorry I'm just so confused how this post was even written in the first place

>>542367218

But they also buffed air blocking by letting you take action before you hit the ground.

>>542364996
I still play her but I'm trying to commit to Teemo rn, and both her and Teemo together feels disjointed and risky. I can make it work but if my opponent knows how to play I get cooked

>>542375245
Right which is why I said the devs are completely retarded and have indicated they will only make things worse instead of better

>>542367218
I don't get it, if you have tight block strings and mix that don't have gaps this chicken blocking stuff doesn't even matter.
Jumping out of pressure is the WAY shitter option compared to the frame 1 parry you can just whip out to take your turn back.

>>542370629
It's like three or four frames of startup I think

>>542376260
I can't tell if you want me to actually engage with your post when you pretend that the only time people block is mid blockstring and you don't make people block when chasing them down in neutral. If you chase down an upbacking Jinx or Teemo and make them block in the air you are at more of a disadvantage than if they were grounded where they don't have vertical momentum and are vulnerable to high/low. It is also relevant in blockstring pressure but come on now dude.

Why do you even feel motivated to defend this shit? If they made air blockstun work exactly like Strive or DBFZ you probably wouldn't even notice but at high level it wouldn't be suicide to try to bring someone to the ground.

>>542376651
>at high level it wouldn't be suicide to try to bring someone to the ground.
Post rank Lil bro

>>542376651
At high level Jinx and Teemo are piss useless shitters so I don't know what you're even implying

>>542376792
Not playing this kuso until air blocking is fixed.
>>542376869
absolutely fucking delusional

>>542375245
>>542375535
The airblocking stuff is only for blocking high in the air
If you block something at mid jump height you still can't get anything out so what is the problem there
>>542376651
Obviously you can block in neutral but that's just a guessing game stacked in your favor
If they upback and you just run forwards they land and you can mix them.
ff you airgrab them you get a combo,
if they attack and you block it then they win,
if they attack and you parry it then you win,
if they attack and you stuff them then you win,
and if you attack and they block it then they (are at slightly higher frame advantage they can't use until they land anyways, effectively just a neutral interaction)
What's the issue here, you're still winning way more often

>>542376651

I still don't understand what situation you're implying chicken block is unbalanced.

>>542377235
Nice dodge aspirant sperg

>>542377434
Vi's semi charged 5S1 which is +1 grounded is -23 if the opponent is airborne and it's not like that move has particularly high reach compared to actual AAs. Your first statement is just wrong for a wide range of specials, hit the lab. Again I still don't understand why you're defending this. Do you think the game would be worse if air blockstun was implemented properly and you had to actually hold blockstun (if not even a little extra!) for blocking in the air?

Is there a trick to getting right Teemo's charge timing for his mushroom loops
I can't fucking do it consistently

>>542377781
You know turbo autist, just lead with talking about vi charged punch not being plus on air block instead of talking about up back that you're too shit to stop anyways

>>542378235
>blatantly lies
>an example is provided as evidence of the lie
>spergs out
It's not about Vi's punch. It's just a drastic example given the 24 frame reduction in advantage. Why not just admit that them fixing air blockstun would be good? Why defend this? In what ways does the current situation make the game better?
>inb4 it makes you mad haha xdddd