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Anonymous No.542253074 >>542253260 >>542278482 >>542300742
/sthg/ - Sonic the Hedgehog General
Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #8719 - Punk Drummer Edition

==NEWS==
>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - Accolades Trailer
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>SAGExpo 2025
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>Mobile card game Sonic Blitz
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>Sonic Rumble Global Launch Delayed
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>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/

==Comic Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chaotix's 30th Anniversary - 22 October 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #82 - 19 November 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #83 - 17 December
Sonic the Hedgehog #84 - 14 January 2026
Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds (oneshot) - 28 January 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Shadows - 4 March 2026

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Anonymous No.542253260 >>542253582
>>542253074 (OP)
I meant /sthg/ #8718 fuck
Anonymous No.542253419 >>542253890 >>542268710
How attached do you think Sega is to the current ENG VA team? 10 years is usually the point where they're replaced.
Anonymous No.542253491 >>542253817
Kill all Archietards.
Kill Richmunk.
Kill Sallyfags.
>Kill all Archietards.
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Anonymous No.542253551 >>542256240 >>542264543
it's all so tiresome
Anonymous No.542253582
>>542253260
>Posted early
>Still fucked it up
>Underground op
It's going to be one of those threads isn't it...

>>542253315
Sure why not. I'm sure someone will buy it.
Anonymous No.542253639
>It's going to be one of those threads
That's like every single /sthg/ thread.
Anonymous No.542253640 >>542253695
Silver never makes Blaze blush
Anonymous No.542253686
I love ASS (Amy, Sonic, Shadow)
Anonymous No.542253695
>>542253640
A Sonazefag got caught with CSAM shit.
Anonymous No.542253817 >>542254319 >>542254432
>>542253491
who or what the hell is Richmunk?
Anonymous No.542253890
>>542253419
They were about to fire Roger as Sonic until Twitter begged them to keep him (fuck them for that), so I'm betting they'll keep the current VAs for another decade.
Anonymous No.542254156 >>542254783
>>542251176
>was a VERY enjoyable character
How? He was just a punching bag character early, he did nothing in the middle and turned into a completely different gary stu character late in. What the fuck is there to enjoy of him?

He's literally a comic relief character and that's all he ever served for. Unironically why would anyone like him is beyond me.
Anonymous No.542254282
I do not care for Shadow nor Silver.
Anonymous No.542254319 >>542255120
>>542253817
"Richmunk" refers to Richard Kuta, an infamous SatAM fan in the late 2000s/early 2010s that wanted the games to follow the American Classic Sonic lore. For example he hated the name "Eggman", he thinks Sonic should take place on Mobius and he also hates the Modern design. He really damaged the reputation of the SatAM fanbase and even the Classic fanbase for a while especially after a video reaction he uploaded back in 2010 when the first trailer for Sonic 4 came out and he seethed at the green eyes. Though now he's mostly just associated with American classic and not JP Classic

Anyways he also has an ABDL fetish to make matters worse
Anonymous No.542254368
Douge
Anonymous No.542254432
>>542253817
Newfag... Hmph
Anonymous No.542254473
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Anonymous No.542254718 >>542254868 >>542255217
You gotta respect Classic Sonic; when he came back, he made sure to bring with him as many of his old friends as he could, and most of them were even made playable after 30 years of neglect. Every new Classic Sonic game introduced a new playable character.

In contrast, Shadow couldn't even be assed to get Rouge to be playable for either of his expansion packs, but he could get a different version of himself playable.
Anonymous No.542254783 >>542255212 >>542255404 >>542255570
>>542254156
Because he goes from buttmonkey to respectable warrior after suffering significant hardship like his fathers death by he evil doppelganger, marrying and then almost losing bunnie, and his noble sacrifice. Then in the reboot they retool him to be a nice blend of his old campy cowardly self and a man who's brave and competent in spite of their flaws. And he talk funny.
Anonymous No.542254789 >>542255101 >>542286014
Anonymous No.542254868 >>542255021 >>542255976
>>542254718
>Every new Classic Sonic game introduced a new playable character.
CD didn't introduce a new playable character until the Whitehead port added Tails and then Origins added Knuckles and Amy.
Anonymous No.542255021 >>542255976
>>542254868
I think he's talking about the nuClassic games (Mania and Superstars)
Anonymous No.542255101 >>542256664
>>542254789
freaky
Anonymous No.542255120 >>542255453
>>542254319
Justified crashout. Sonic 4 looks like dogshit because of the new models. Mania, the cancelled Mania 2, and Superstars look so much better.
Anonymous No.542255212 >>542255451 >>542255473 >>542301029
>>542254783
>Because he goes from buttmonkey to respectable warrior
a.k.a. character assassination and wiping off and significantly altering him because otherwise you serve no purpose.

>after suffering significant hardship like his fathers death by he evil doppelganger
Except nothing like that was ever shown, nothing was shown of his going through the hardship, only the aftermath and we're just supposed to believe Ian's retarded character changes.

>Then in the reboot they retool him to be a nice blend of his old campy cowardly self and a man who's brave and competent in spite of their flaws.
Except Antoine was still just a punching bag for only -1% less, hardly doing shit.

>And he talk funny.
Yeah, that speaks a lot for your bare pretty low standards and going for only hype moments and aura.

Average Antoinefag as always.
Anonymous No.542255217
>>542254718
I like Classic Sonic, I don't respect or put him on pedestal like some dumbass fans do
Anonymous No.542255379 >>542256409
Knuckles was always a buffoon.
Anonymous No.542255404
>>542254783
>he goes from buttmonkey to respectable warrior
>respectable
He was full of ego himself thinking he could win over Metal Sonic only to get jobbed and stay in coma for all of the remaining pre reboot lol.
Anonymous No.542255451
>>542255212
Is this how sonicfags see character development?
Anonymous No.542255453
>>542255120
I agree that those look better but Sonic 4 looking like ass has more to do with the fact that it was originally meant to be an early mobile game that was shoved into consoles right before being announced. Episode II for example looks better

Also most of the complaints Rich had in his video came from it being a direct sequel to 3&K while using the Modern design which is kind of a petty complaint
Anonymous No.542255473 >>542255751
>>542255212
Okay.
Anonymous No.542255570 >>542255898
>>542254783
>respectable
Didn't Antoine literally frame robotized Sonic for pulverizing the entire Knothole village and got away with it?
Anonymous No.542255586 >>542256646
>>542144771
Anonymous No.542255751 >>542255809
>>542255473
Antoine didn't cameo on Spinball. That's how much they meant for him; a literal clown.

Sorry you got hyperfixated on the wrong character, but it's okay, autism is hard.
Anonymous No.542255809 >>542255876 >>542255972 >>542260426
>>542255751
You fags are so mean for no reason damn. Let a mf enjoy a character
Anonymous No.542255876 >>542255954 >>542256032
>>542255809
>Let a mf enjoy a character
You people make fun of Sally fags everyday.
Anonymous No.542255898 >>542256175
>>542255570
No he accused sonic of intentionally disobeying orders not to go after Eggman, which led to him getting robotized and busting up a village. The actual reason it happened was because Nack abducted Sonic but the being turned into a robot and bombing shit thing did actually happen.
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Anonymous No.542255954 >>542260426
>>542255876
Don't project that onto me :/ I didn't do shit. If you're gonna be an asshole to someone for liking a character then at least own the fact you're being an asshole
Anonymous No.542255972
>>542255809
You enjoy things more here when you ignore miserable people.
Anonymous No.542255976 >>542257087
>>542254868
>>542255021
Don't forget Origins Plus, which made Classic Amy playable in a platformer for the first time.
Anonymous No.542256032 >>542256239 >>542256440 >>542256638 >>542257910
>>542255876
Sally couldn't keep her legs closed and her family royalty bullshit was just there to cause needless drama it's no wonder a lot of people dont have the best impression of her.
Anonymous No.542256128
*pat*
Anonymous No.542256175 >>542256619
>>542255898
>he accused
And on the very next issue, he made a huge sperg inside the council doing all his means to put Sonic behind jail just for fucking a chipmunk. That's "respectable"?

>sonic of intentionally disobeying orders
You mean Sonic being in-character?
Anonymous No.542256239
>>542256032
>Sally couldn't keep her legs closed
Ah, so you're just a projecting virgin incel.
Anonymous No.542256240
>>542253551
>Mat the 'hog
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Anonymous No.542256409 >>542257082 >>542258062
>>542255379
Not always.
Anonymous No.542256440 >>542257090
>>542256032
>Sally couldn't keep her legs closed
Contrary to popular belief, Sally in nearly all these occasions was just raped and controlled and she couldn't do anything but cry. You would do that too.
Anonymous No.542256554
'ge
Anonymous No.542256619 >>542256909 >>542257101 >>542257235
>>542256175
That was during Antoines buttmonkey era, besides, Its not my fault the writers threw sonic into an arbitrary setting that punished him for being himself.
>Lets give sonic a bunch of adult authority figures to needlessly hamstring him, being grounded is relatable to todays youths!
>Lets get sonic involved in a really messy awkward love triangle, kids love romance drama! That's what sonics all about!
How anyone gasses this setting as being good for sonic is beyond me. I enjoy some character moments in an otherwise very badly written setting, and I enjoy Antoines character moments the most consistently of any of the archie cast. Simple-as.
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Anonymous No.542256638
>>542256032
>Sally couldn't keep her legs closed
Bunnie did same with Scourge yet everyone loves her.
Anonymous No.542256646 >>542257251
>>542255586
yoooo thanks anon!
though to be fair i kinda want a butt collage too
chance you can do one?
Anonymous No.542256664 >>542286014
>>542255101
She's down for it.
Anonymous No.542256818 >>542257218
Anonymous No.542256909
>>542256619
>That was during Antoines buttmonkey era
And Antoine literally in no way ever apologized or made that up for Sonic. So much for "respectable".

>Its not my fault
Honestly, it is if you kept reading it. Drop that shit.

>I enjoy Antoines character
What character? His only consistency is being a buttmonkey. Everything after was all made up by Ian and was just a sudden competent gary stu.
Anonymous No.542257049
<3
Anonymous No.542257082
>>542256409
That's Classic Knuckles; a Knuckles that , was strong enough to able to beat two(2) supercharged Robo Sonics, smart enough to outpace actual Sonic with traps, and was only tricked by Eggman once.

His dimensional counterpart, Modern Knuckes, is a buffoon, he got tricked by Eggman three times and gets pushed around by Amy.
Anonymous No.542257087
>>542255976
It's funny to me how all those Classic Amy mods had to jump through hopes to get her Advance 1 moveset to work in Classic Sonic games meanwhile SEGA simply chucked it all straight to hell and turned Amy a sidegrade of S3&K Sonic.
Anonymous No.542257090 >>542258362
>>542256440
Literally only when her father wanted to force her to marry Antoine, who was at the time Evil Antoine. She makes out with St. John to make sonic jealous and then later on can't decide on if she'd rather fuckin Sun Wukong or Sonic so she just dates them both. Very openly admits that she's doing it too. She also catch-22's sonic with that whole "Either pick me or adventuring" thing and that fucking sucked because she did that in front of everyone. I get it, she was traumatized from thinking sonic had died and that fucked her up but that whole thing was really badly done. Art sucked too, it was mess man, Sally's a mess.
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Anonymous No.542257101 >>542257302
>>542256619
>I enjoy some character moments in an otherwise very badly written setting
imagine hating yourself enough that you keep glupping down literal poop hoping it still has some small inside strawberry flavor
Anonymous No.542257116 >>542286014
Anonymous No.542257217 >>542286014
Anonymous No.542257218
>>542256818
>Lobotomized
>Frozen in time
edgehog victims
Anonymous No.542257235
>>542256619
>being grounded is relatable to todays youths!
I mean, yeah. That's literally Sonic's DNA, always being relatable to today's teens.
Anonymous No.542257251 >>542257387
>>542256646
are you there anln?
Anonymous No.542257302 >>542257597 >>542257695
>>542257101
Please keep your scat fetish analogy away from me. I was bored and it was a thing to do. Like watching shitty old movies to get a giggle out of how bad they are.
Anonymous No.542257387
>>542257251
fuck this keyboard lol
Anonymous No.542257459 >>542286014
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Anonymous No.542257597
>>542257302
>projecting
okay antoinefag
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Anonymous No.542257630 >>542257803
Thinking man's ship
Anonymous No.542257679
Why are shipfags so brainrotted
Anonymous No.542257695 >>542257879
>>542257302
/sthg/ is not your personal hugbox army. Don't freak out when no one here is a friend to other.
Anonymous No.542257803
>>542257630
All Knuckles really needs in a waifu is somebody to help him guard the rock and he was going to have it with Shade.
Anonymous No.542257879 >>542258064 >>542258249
>>542257695
I respond for much the same reason anon, im bored.
Anonymous No.542257910
>>542256032
>a lot of people dont have the best impression of her.
A lot of these people sound miserable to begin with, probably only care about it to begin with for shipfaggotry. Just because Sally is not the best character, doesn't mean you have to be completely obnoxious over it every single moment whenever someone else shows appreciation for her.
Anonymous No.542258062
>>542256409
If this was Modern Knuckles, instead of spindashing the claw to drop the ME, he would have shattered the Master Emerald, and then, he would have to go through up to 9 poorly designed treasure hunting levels to find all the pieces.
Anonymous No.542258064 >>542258713
>>542257879
Then don't project on others and say someone might have a scat fetish, retard.
Anonymous No.542258249 >>542258713
>>542257879
>im bored
If all you can think about is just shitposting here, you have severe problems and really too MUCH free time.
Anonymous No.542258319
>next year is Sonic's 35th anniversary
>new Shadow content coming out soon
Imagine if they celebrate 15 years of Shadow instead of celebrating anything for Sonic. That would be the ultimate cuck
Violet No.542258362 >>542258713
>>542257090
Archie Sally's a mess.
SatAM Sally is a fine young lady.
Don't let OOC paint your perception of Sonic characters.
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Anonymous No.542258464 >>542258698
Can't believe we missed our shot at an actual open world Sonic game. We could have had Knuckles missions where you did treasure hunting.
Anonymous No.542258698 >>542259353 >>542260105
>>542258464
Trust me, it is ENTIRELY to Frontiers' benefit that Sega restrained themselves to the "Open Zone" philosophy. Open worlds have a nasty, nasty habit of being too large for their own good that makes their emptiness really noticeable.
Anonymous No.542258713
>>542258064
I think the lady doth protest too much.
>>542258249
I'm not shitposting, i'm just reacting. I like Antoine, anon really doesn't like that and said some things, i said some things, now i'm going to go do other things and this conversation was just a way to pass time. It'll stop mattering the second I stop quoting you because i'll just be another random user on the board and you'll never know.
>>542258362
ehh after going through the entire archie mainline i dunno if i'm up for looking at the cartoons, im kind of freedom fightered out. Maybe in a few months but for now its just IDW and the games for me. And the movies, Im excited for 4.
Anonymous No.542258878
^Creampedo, report and ignore.
Anonymous No.542259130
Oh my god, it is really a Creampedo lmao.
Anonymous No.542259353
>>542258698
This.
Anonymous No.542259664
Anonymous No.542259769
Anonymous No.542260105
>>542258698
Frontiers was already too large and empty for its own good. Everyone drank the "gotta go fast" dumbfuck juice.

I agree that Open Zone is the best Sonic Team can muster though.
Anonymous No.542260151
Kill all Archietards.
Kill Richmunk.
Kill Sallyfags.
>Kill all Archietards.
>Kill Richmunk.
>Kill Sallyfags.
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Kill Richmunk.
Kill Sallyfags.
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Kill Richmunk.
Kill Sallyfags.
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>Kill Richmunk.
>Kill Sallyfags.
Kill all Archietards.
Kill Richmunk.
Kill Sallyfags.
>Kill all Archietards.
>Kill Richmunk.
>Kill Sallyfags.
Kill all Archietards.
Kill Richmunk.
Kill Sallyfags.
>Kill all Archietards.
>Kill Richmunk.
>Kill Sallyfags.
Kill all Archietards.
Kill Richmunk.
Kill Sallyfags.
>Kill all Archietards.
>Kill Richmunk.
>Kill Sallyfags.
Kill all Archietards.
Kill Richmunk.
Kill Sallyfags.
>Kill all Archietards.
>Kill Richmunk.
>Kill Sallyfags.
Kill all Archietards.
Kill Richmunk.
Kill Sallyfags.
>Kill all Archietards.
>Kill Richmunk.
>Kill Sallyfags.
Kill all Archietards.
Kill Richmunk.
Kill Sallyfags.
>Kill all Archietards.
>Kill Richmunk.
>Kill Sallyfags.
Anonymous No.542260426
>>542255954
>>542255809
Imagine defending characterfaggots.
Anonymous No.542260506 >>542262703 >>542263342
Anonymous No.542261423
Real!
Anonymous No.542261576
Man it suuuuure is boooring on /stgh/...
Anonymous No.542261946 >>542262416
Sonurge
Anonymous No.542262216
x.com/yeonwu08/status/1976762561443061938
Anonymous No.542262283
Sonic and Tails are cute together
Anonymous No.542262416 >>542262618 >>542263413 >>542266543
>>542261946
Anonymous No.542262618 >>542262871 >>542263413
>>542262416
Anonymous No.542262703 >>542262848 >>542263610 >>542264906
>>542260506
Is funny how, jr. Became breezie's endgame.
I know they're robots, but it's kinda nice to know human/blobian pairings exist, and not in a fetishistic way.
It's kinda nice to me when a world with a lot of species and races can coexist, fall in love or even marry, kinda like wakfu, possibly zootopia and even if its fandom made, the sonic ova.
Anonymous No.542262797
https://poal.me/f3o49o
Anonymous No.542262848
>>542262703
This happens in the games
Anonymous No.542262871 >>542263052 >>542263413
>>542262618
Anonymous No.542263052 >>542263413
>>542262871
Anonymous No.542263062 >>542265004
Gamefaqs feels dead bros
Anonymous No.542263342
>>542260506
Man, I miss archie breezie, she was such a top tier character, in personality and design.
I miss a lot of characters reintroduced in archie like professor von Schneider, he was a cool addition too.
Anonymous No.542263413
>>542262416
>>542262618
>>542262871
>>542263052
I love this ship so much
Anonymous No.542263418
>the tailsfag (the other one who shits up /co/) that hates the Sonic character and series especially Archie still here
Anonymous No.542263610 >>542264464
>>542262703
Anonymous No.542263827 >>542263995
This artist is a Taiream shipper but I love her enthusiasm so I want to commission more.
Anonymous No.542263995 >>542264112
>>542263827
Forgot pic
Anonymous No.542264097 >>542264308 >>542264546 >>542265049
Violet's obsession over these three characters made me commission this one
Anonymous No.542264112
>>542263995
So adorable <3
Cream-chan has never looked cuter.
Violet No.542264308
>>542264097
Very good, Agent Thriller.
More kino for the kino god.
Anonymous No.542264343
Anonymous No.542264383
Do you suffer from West Derangement Syndrome?
Anonymous No.542264460 >>542264747
This seems like an old school YouTube idea but the guy shoved in IDW slop so it sucks.

https://youtu.be/SUkXd_8Clt0?si=EvanStanleyCannotDrawHumanWomen
Anonymous No.542264464 >>542265000
>>542263610
Anonymous No.542264543 >>542273549
>>542253551
sauce?
Anonymous No.542264546
>>542264097
I just noticed her bare midriff UNF!
Anonymous No.542264683 >>542265315 >>542266360
Sonic characters for this feel?
Anonymous No.542264747
>>542264460
Change your diapers Richmunk.
Anonymous No.542264863
Castrate yourself Tails self inserter
Anonymous No.542264906
>>542262703
hmofa reign supreme
Anonymous No.542265000
>>542264464
Anonymous No.542265004
>>542263062
The old message boards have been dying for years
Along with the old internet...
Anonymous No.542265049
>>542264097
Cool
Anonymous No.542265315
>>542264683
Vanilla, Sonic, Shadow
Tails, Blaze, Rouge
Amy, Cream, Silver
Anonymous No.542265661 >>542266109 >>542266270 >>542266841 >>542268448
You know, if there is ONE thing done right in IDW, it's having a scene where Knuckles trains Amy. Gives a minor explanation for why she's playable in Superstars.
Anonymous No.542266068
Anonymous No.542266109 >>542266269 >>542267390
>>542265661
Yeah there's nothing like looking for pebbles to call character development in side media for something that didn't need to be explained but westerners can't help themselves over unneeded explanations
Anonymous No.542266269 >>542268448
>>542266109
You're a miserable little cunt aren't you?
Anonymous No.542266270 >>542266637
>>542265661
I would almost not even want to count this because really everything that ties the main comic is the worst part of IDW.

If you were to remove everything directly tied to the main comic IDW is like actually a 6 or 7 out of 10
Violet No.542266360 >>542268087
>>542264683
Anonymous No.542266362
Amy was never meant to be anything more than whatever she was on CD anyway.
Anonymous No.542266543
>>542262416
Vegitonic
Anonymous No.542266637 >>542266714 >>542266937 >>542267429 >>542267927
>>542266270
meh, at least its not Archie.
Anonymous No.542266696
Kit :)
Anonymous No.542266714
>>542266637
Shut up Creampedo.
Anonymous No.542266841
>>542265661
I think it's funny that the Classic comic's have a tighter continuity with the Classic games (both new and old) than the Modern comics, which take place in this nebulous gray area between Forces and Frontier (that may or may not include MoSTH).
Anonymous No.542266937 >>542267056
>>542266637
Early Archie is better than IDW.
Anonymous No.542267056
>>542266937
All of Archie is better than idw.
Anonymous No.542267075
Are you gonna play Shadow's next fishing game?
Anonymous No.542267168
Dark age kiddies get the rope
Anonymous No.542267176
>Unironic archie defenders itt
ishygddt
Anonymous No.542267293
@Anonymous
Yes we will
Anonymous No.542267343
>tails nigger
Anonymous No.542267390 >>542267901
>>542266109
>"Waaah this character development is bad and shouldn't exist"
>"Why does nothing ever happen in IDW?"

I for one, like knowing how Amy went from non-combatant to combatant from CD to Fighters. Also Knuckles not being retard is a plus.
Anonymous No.542267429 >>542267547 >>542267678 >>542268013
>>542266637
No, it's worse. Archie was its own thing and didn't do anything to the canon. IDW is literally tainting Sonic and is considered erroneously canon.
Anonymous No.542267547
>>542267429
Its floating canon and subject to the whims of SEGA JP. They can acknowledge or ignore it as can you fagnon.
Anonymous No.542267678
>>542267429
Yes this.
Anonymous No.542267901 >>542268247
>>542267390
You enjoyed having something fill in the blanks decades later for blanks you created out of western nerd logic necessity
Anonymous No.542267927
>>542266637
I WISH it was Archie. It had more content and actual stories unlike IDW which is just literally game pamplets.
Anonymous No.542268013 >>542268161 >>542268848
>>542267429
>Archie was its own thing and didn't do anything to the canon

Archie was pretending it was THE CANON in the west. Lots of Archiefags assumed their licensed tie-in comic was the main thing. A mindset SoA encouraged.
Anonymous No.542268054 >>542268285 >>542268432 >>542268975 >>542269869
Where the fuck is everyone, its the weekend. Are Archiecuckolds literally the only ones here being alone on the weekend?!
Anonymous No.542268087 >>542268527
>>542266360
Why is Knux alone
Yami no Mefiles No.542268107
NOOOO I WANT TO EXIST!


I WANT TO EXIST!
Anonymous No.542268161 >>542268557
>>542268013
>Archie was pretending it was THE CANON in the west.
nigga who tf cares? SoA are now marketing idw and are also marketing the movies they are advertising a product with their brand on it cut that retarded crap.
Anonymous No.542268247 >>542268448
>>542267901
>WAAA WAA I AM SUPERIOR THAN YOUR WESTERN SHIT
-another Westener in the mongolian website
Anonymous No.542268285
>>542268054
Shut the fuck up Creampedo.
Anonymous No.542268432
>>542268054
I'm at work, and don't even come here often.
Anonymous No.542268448 >>542268603 >>542268705
>>542268247
>>542265661
>>542266269
Anonymous No.542268527
>>542268087
I think the green is supposed to be the ME?
Anonymous No.542268557
>>542268161
>nigga who tf cares?
You do, Miss damage control niggerette.
Anonymous No.542268603
>>542268448
Shut the fuck up you mongolian turd.
Anonymous No.542268704
Anonymous No.542268705
>>542268448
That was a little cringe sure but the rest of that comic was cute. We love classic emi here anon.
Anonymous No.542268710 >>542268996
>>542253419
Tara Strong shamed SEGA on Xitter which forced them to do damage control.
Anonymous No.542268734
Weeb total death when
Anonymous No.542268741
Guys, I can't beat Sonic 1 Special Stages consistently anymore. I am getting too old for Sonic games.
Anonymous No.542268829
Anonymous No.542268848
>>542268013
>Archie was pretending it was THE CANON in the west
Stop making shit up. That's actually literally IDW.

>A mindset SoA encouraged.
Didn't even ever happen, at least not after 50# when they stopped advertising it.
Anonymous No.542268884 >>542270820
I wanted a classic chaotix comic
Anonymous No.542268975
>>542268054
>Are Archiecuckolds literally the only ones here being alone on the weekend?!
The thread literally begin with huge anti-Archie sentiments. Where?
Anonymous No.542268996 >>542269392
>>542268710
Tara needs to learn how to shut her fucking hole. Bitch does 3 voices and thinks she's an authority on VA because her shitty little union strong arms companies into ONLY hiring their talents. I'm glad those leeches are getting replaced im sick of hearing tara strong and yuri fucking loenthal in everything.
Anonymous No.542269009 >>542285076
Prepare for Taylor Swift voicing miss Rose.
Anonymous No.542269048 >>542269141 >>542269249 >>542270582
They’re discussing Sonic Frontiers and the effect it had in Japan
Anonymous No.542269141 >>542269249
>>542269048
Sega is the laughing stock of Japan
Anonymous No.542269237 >>542284753
Can someone draw a picture of Tangle's corpse rotting in the woods? Bonus image, someone finds her after looking for so long, either Whisper or this guy from Realcuck's work.
Anonymous No.542269249
>>542269048
>>542269141
>Sega is the laughing stock of Japan
Anonymous No.542269282 >>542269491 >>542269542
Funny how nobody pointed this out.
Anonymous No.542269392
>>542268996
I like both their voices, but I do agree they should bring in more people. I always saw Yuri as being a good potential Sonic voice after Roger left.
Anonymous No.542269468 >>542269535
Sonic porn needs more cuckshit.
Why are blobians against cheating?
Anonymous No.542269491
>>542269282
Tracy is scat fetishist btw.
Anonymous No.542269535
>>542269468
Why are humans like this?
Anonymous No.542269542
>>542269282
Because how the fuck would anybody have ever known these two were supposed to be Bunnie or Antoine? Tracy's a retard
Anonymous No.542269613 >>542269675
>can't talk about side media because idw faggots
>can't talk about the games because jp faggots
Anonymous No.542269675
>>542269613
why can't you
Anonymous No.542269726
Isn't Pete Capella's work a bit sad? He's only known as the voice of a secondary character in a crappy game.
How is that life for a voice actor?
Anonymous No.542269748 >>542269839
>Can't talk about IDW because Archie faggots
>Can't talk about Jp because westoid faggots
Siiiiiiigh.
Anonymous No.542269839 >>542270002
>>542269748
Why can' y-oh wait your an IDWanker I don't care.
Anonymous No.542269869
>>542268054
I’m working so I can afford to survive another week
Anonymous No.542269893
Why is the tails /co/ schizo still here?
He doesn't even like Sonic.
Anonymous No.542269895 >>542269979
... why are you coupling IDW with games? You really think they are compatible?

Abhorrent faggot.
Anonymous No.542269979
>>542269895
Ian Flynn isn't here anon.
Anonymous No.542270002 >>542270228
>>542269839
Proving his point, aren't you?
Anonymous No.542270084 >>542270912
You really think AOSTH is not compatible with classic kino?
Sad
Anonymous No.542270228
>>542270002
That xhe's not welcome here? Pretty much, yes.
Anonymous No.542270246 >>542274859
>Complaining you can't talk about Sonic here because of the wankers from one group
>Doesn't talk about Sonic to begin with
Anonymous No.542270352
FROM THE TOP ROP!
BAH GAWD HE BROKE DAT HERGEHAWG IN HALF!
Anonymous No.542270370 >>542270446
Red fox and orange fox sucking my cock
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542269237
Anonymous No.542270418 >>542288787
Tails being able to box instead of being Jimmy Neutron
Anonymous No.542270446
>>542270370
The red one bites
Anonymous No.542270475
>can talk about whatever I want because I don't care
Yay!
Anonymous No.542270506 >>542271102
I personally don't like the Metal variants of the cast outside of Metal Sonic. Metal Sonic managed to earn his seniority thanks to being iconic and having some personality when he can.
However, the other robots are just shallow cool moments, but not really interesting. It's why I'm glad Metal Knuckles and Tails Doll are one-shot racing fodder.
Anonymous No.542270582 >>542271358
>>542269048
Toby Fox?
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Anonymous No.542270703 >>542270769 >>542271870 >>542272081 >>542272349 >>542282908 >>542293825
Only thing worth a damn in IDW
Anonymous No.542270769
>>542270703
why's she orange
Anonymous No.542270820 >>542270950 >>542271061
>>542268884
Do you think IDW will make anymore Classic comics, or are they done until the next milestone anniversaries roll around (if they live that long)?
Anonymous No.542270906 >>542271027 >>542271079 >>542271081 >>542271391 >>542271590
Would you rather have an Advance 4 or a Rush 3? No Colors DS is not Rush 3.
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>>542270084
Hi Richmunk/AngryVideoGameNerd.
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>>542270820
They know they are popular, so they will keep them in mind.
Anonymous No.542271027
>>542270906
Rush is basically Advance 4 already so I'll take Rush 3.
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Anonymous No.542271061 >>542271202 >>542271229 >>542271573
>>542270820
>Tails
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>Sonic
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>Amy
>???
Anonymous No.542271079
>>542270906
Advance 3 2 featuring Blaze and Marine

>No Colors DS is not Rush 3.
Thank you
Anonymous No.542271081 >>542272654
>>542270906
RUSH 3. I want to see my girl in a Sonic game again
Anonymous No.542271102
>>542270506
Tails doll has popped up in a few more games I think, at least more than meta Emi and meta Nacos, she's a bit more popular.
Anonymous No.542271141 >>542273624
Manic the Hedgehog gives off the vibes of someone whose ass you could grope on the subway and he wouldn't care or do anything
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Anonymous No.542271187
Eggrobo > Metal Cucknic
Anonymous No.542271202
>>542271061
Fucks anon, unlike all of them she fucks
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Anonymous No.542271229 >>542271356
>>542271061
Loves
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Haha melty
Anonymous No.542271356
>>542271229
Fuck off Sparky.
Anonymous No.542271358 >>542271713
>>542270582
Speaks fluent Japanese, Undertale is insanely popular in Japan selling over like 1-2 million in the region, he’s also good friends with majority of the people in that room.
Anonymous No.542271391 >>542271713
>>542270906
Rush 3


Why is Colors DS not Rush 3?
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Anonymous No.542271573
>>542271061
>Knuckles
>Digs

Where is he doing that in my pic?
Anonymous No.542271590
>>542270906
All these three are the same thing
Anonymous No.542271612 >>542271698 >>542271809
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Anonymous No.542271625 >>542271813
>>542271476
FAAAAAAAAT
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Anonymous No.542271698
>>542271612
KILL YOURSELF ROTORNIGGERFAGGOT
Anonymous No.542271713 >>542276392
>>542271358
I believe the rest, but only 1 or 2 million? That's a lot for a random indie game, but not that much all things considered, Undertale is definitely more popular than that

>>542271391
The mechanics are trying to copy Unleashed and Colors Wii, and it's not an original game
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Anonymous No.542271731 >>542271816 >>542272017
Why is he like this?
Anonymous No.542271809
>>542271612
die fag
Anonymous No.542271813
>>542271625
Anonymous No.542271816
>>542271731
Because of Archiefags like you.
Anonymous No.542271837 >>542272252
Archie is objectively more interesting and more fun than the games and idw combined
>but my canon
only archie's canon matters
>but my shipping
only archie's ships matter
>but my melodrama
They are arcs for when they are still planning forwards. archie did them during that planning phase. making archie's plot diverse and less likely to go stale. meanwhile idw does it exclusively
>But my OOC
I treat Archie's characters as DLC to their game ones. they went through more things they wouldn't have gone through in games
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Anonymous No.542271870
>>542270703
Tangle died in the Metal Virus. The happy-go-lucky tomboy that loves adventure was turned into a zombot and never returned. All that remains in a hollow shell used for queer bait with Whisper.
Anonymous No.542271872 >>542274172
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Anonymous No.542272017
>>542271731
Anti-archiefags are extremely autistic, even by Sonic fan standards.
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Anonymous No.542272081 >>542273139
>>542270703
>crybaby dyke and utterly moot with Espio's hook and Avatar
lol
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Anonymous No.542272252 >>542272732
>>542271837
Moot point because Archie sonic was liberated and the freedom fighters were dragged out into the streets and decapitated publicly to the applause of millions. You LOST sir, good day!
Anonymous No.542272349 >>542273342
>>542270703
Isn't Tangle only existing for just propping up herself as literal Amy OC because Ian didn't think Amy was cool enough?
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Anonymous No.542272497 >>542272606
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Anonymous No.542272606 >>542272728 >>542273239
>>542272497
Yes.
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>>542271081
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCYRgbaAnwQ
Anonymous No.542272678
Reminder he's a /co/ fag and hates Sonic
Anonymous No.542272728 >>542272912
>>542272606
That's not spam. What's happening in this thread is though
Anonymous No.542272732
>>542272252
does not contradict any of the stated facts I pointed in my previous post
Anonymous No.542272912 >>542273096 >>542273187
>>542272728
56 results though, Sparky. Shut the fuck up.
Anonymous No.542273096
>>542272912
I'm not Sparky. Using on topic images in an imageboard is not spam. I've never been banned over spam. Cope
Anonymous No.542273139
>>542272081
And yet you're the one crying now.
Anonymous No.542273159 >>542273550
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>>542272912
janny applications are closed..
Anonymous No.542273197
>nuked
anyways. Archie was good. it had it's ups and downs, but that's how everything is.
equating idw to archie is a farce. they are nothing a like. not in story telling direction, not in art style and maybe not even in genre
Anonymous No.542273239
>>542272606
Anons like you who do this need to get their necks slit.
Anonymous No.542273247
>Team Sonic
>Team Rose
>Team Dark
>Team Chaotix
>Team Eggman
>Team Dimensions
>Team Deadly Six
>Team Babylon Rogues

Fav from each Sonic Team approved team?
Anonymous No.542273302 >>542273929
I wish Cream reacted like this when she sees me...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmJwrFg7CsI
Anonymous No.542273342 >>542273441 >>542274057
>>542272349
>Amy OC
>Yesterday it was Rouge being made into Amy 2 in Heroes and 06
>A few months ago it was Cream stealing Amy's role in the story
Do Amysissies REALLY?
Anonymous No.542273352
See windfags what you did?
You attracted the /co/ schizo
Anonymous No.542273441 >>542273769
>>542273342
Fuck off Sallyfaggot.
Anonymous No.542273486
the sonic x blaze stuff doesn't really make sense as blaze is literally an alternate universe version of sonic. they are two of the same people in different but parallel worlds. its just selfcest
Anonymous No.542273510
Why does Gamefaqs have shit taste?
Anonymous No.542273549
>>542264543
https://x.com/Silverfreakyfan/status/1951371450109362571
Anonymous No.542273550
>>542273159
>S spics
Anonymous No.542273569 >>542273709 >>542274030
>How do we fix IDW?
Anonymous No.542273581 >>542280224 >>542280590
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2G30XQQyhM
Anonymous No.542273624
>>542271141
nah, Manic would probably grope you back. now imagine if it were Sonia or Knuckles
Anonymous No.542273709
>>542273569
i ask you to stop posting your own posts
Anonymous No.542273729
SA1 exists in the Half Life universe
Anonymous No.542273769 >>542274029
>>542273441
At this point you could call me any one of your boogeymen and it'd be believable that I'm sick of Amysissies.
Anonymous No.542273893 >>542273996
Sonic vs Skibidi Toilet. Who wins?
Anonymous No.542273929
>>542273302
just gotta be as cool as John Pork
Anonymous No.542273996
>>542273893
Didn't Sonic need the help of those other guys to fight Skibidi Toilet
Anonymous No.542274029
>>542273769
It's your fault JPfags, now the schizo thinks he is in good company.
Anonymous No.542274030 >>542274914 >>542275378
>>542273569
The monke is ghey. Okey?
Anonymous No.542274057
>>542273342
>Sega can't figure out what to do with Amy
>amyfags can't figure out what to do with Amy
>Ian tried to push something but got backlashed by twitter
>Anything about her attracts autistic mentally unstable women AND men
Just keep her as a civvy npc
Anonymous No.542274172 >>542274375
>>542271872
Finally a good post
Anonymous No.542274212 >>542274501
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dumb incel troll
Anonymous No.542274375 >>542275016
>>542274172
Here's another champ
Anonymous No.542274501
>>542274212
Anonymous No.542274514
I NEED her in the games.
Anonymous No.542274543 >>542275927
I just told my wife about Lanolin since her only exposure to Sonic was the games. Her first response to seeing her was, "I want to be her"
Anonymous No.542274707
And then you woke up with your hand on your pecker
Anonymous No.542274778
What drama am i missing? I want to be part of it.
Anonymous No.542274859
>>542270246
Oh Zeena, how I wish you were appreciated more and were used better
Anonymous No.542274914 >>542275214 >>542277481
>>542274030
Wrong
She fucks this retard every day
Sorry Whisper, find another dyke to munch
Anonymous No.542274981
ooh la la
Anonymous No.542274995 >>542275389
I honestly contemplate to kill myself sometimes. None of you are really real people.

I think I'll finally do it.
Anonymous No.542275016 >>542275118 >>542275376
>>542274375
Did you see this?
https://x.com/aogirinaru/status/1974902234388545654
https://x.com/aogirinaru/status/1975004445852446807
I like Tails' response. We need more interactions between them
Anonymous No.542275050
Good little BASTARD.
Anonymous No.542275118 >>542275376
>>542275016
This artist can draw human women
Anonymous No.542275214 >>542275264 >>542276118
>>542274914
Who the fuck is that Sonic Forces reject? The real Tangle would never.
Anonymous No.542275215
Why aren't you playing Puzzle Construction the first Eggman appearance?
Anonymous No.542275264 >>542275434
>>542275214
Tangle isn't real
Anonymous No.542275376
>>542275016
Those are awesome

>>542275118
Aogirinaru is the best Sonic fanartist
Anonymous No.542275378 >>542275642
>>542274030
No
Anonymous No.542275389 >>542275480
>>542274995
Do it, Archiefag. Please do it.
Anonymous No.542275434
>>542275264
how DARE you!!?
Anonymous No.542275480
>>542275389
After you, /co/ nigger
Anonymous No.542275642
>>542275378
>they're gay but shh act like they're not or i'll get fired
Anonymous No.542275741 >>542276229
how to be a true sonic fan
>shut up
>consoom slop
>let others consoom their other slop they spend money which means more stonks for sega
Anonymous No.542275775
Nothing ever happens.
Anonymous No.542275904
Sonurge is the endgame ship of this franchise.
Anonymous No.542275927
>>542274543
Why does your wife want to be a schizophrenic?
Anonymous No.542276024 >>542276146 >>542276242 >>542277236 >>542277460 >>542278537 >>542279004 >>542284070
Which FPS games /sthg/ likes?
Anonymous No.542276118 >>542277481
>>542275214
her husband, according to realdash
i mean he doesn't look that bad, but i don't know why the grey fur
Anonymous No.542276146
>>542276024
I like HALO
Anonymous No.542276205 >>542276462
Cream is so fucking based this arc imagine tanking that kind of mental trauma and smiling through it anyways.
Anonymous No.542276229
>>542275741
No SEGA. I am not spending $70 for a mediocre Kart game. Nor am I spending it on a comic book that hates it's own franchise. I will spend money on the Sonic movies since they're actually good. I hate that it has come to this.
Anonymous No.542276242
>>542276024
Not a big FPS guy, but Doom 2016 was cool.
Anonymous No.542276392 >>542276568 >>542276778 >>542276972
>>542271713
That’s in Japan alone
Keep in mind Undertale has sold almost as much as the entire Sonic franchise did in Japan if you remove the Olympic tiles
Here’s the top 40 best selling games ever in Japan, the absolute peak isn’t that high
Anonymous No.542276436
Explain in scientific terms how you can trust someone who doesn't love this character?
Anonymous No.542276437
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
HAAAAAAAAATE
THAAAAAAAT
HEEEEEEEEDGE
*inhales*
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOG
Anonymous No.542276462
>>542276205
>3 fucking paragraphs worth of dialogue
>Just to explain why nothing in this comic is going to affect her or any of the other game cast.
>Ian could have just ignored this and kept the plot moving but no. He wanted to marinate in the stupid melodrama.
Anonymous No.542276568 >>542276972
>>542276392
>Keep in mind Undertale has sold almost as much as the entire Sonic franchise did in Japan
That's so fucking pathetic
Anonymous No.542276735
Okay... they probably didn't mean to do this, but it really looks like creams ass is just out here
Anonymous No.542276778
>>542276392
I see
Anonymous No.542276880 >>542277079 >>542277434
Anonymous No.542276958
We spics called him Dr Mostachon
Anonymous No.542276972 >>542277164 >>542277602
>>542276392
>>542276568
To be clear, this is Undertale worldwide vs Sonic Japan only, right? If so then it's really not that impressive, especially if Undertale doesn't beat it. But yeah, sometimes I wish Sonic was more popular
Anonymous No.542277079 >>542277382
>>542276880
Surge, Whisper and Tangle

Team Diamond Cutter
Violet No.542277164
>>542276972
No. It's Undertale JP vs Sonic JP.
I don't get what part of this you aren't understanding.
Japanese people like Western stuff more than Sonic.
Anonymous No.542277236
>>542276024
Not a major fps fan but I like games like Deus Ex
I'm bad at Doom/Quake/UT multiplayer games and that carries on over to COD and Battlefield
Violet No.542277357 >>542277542 >>542277658
Deltarune's JP release sold hundreds of thousands of copies in Japan.
This is more than Crossworlds.
Western influence is the only way to save Sonic.
Anonymous No.542277362
Anonymous No.542277382
>>542277079
Whisper is fodder. Add Lanolin in her place and you've got a team.
Anonymous No.542277434 >>542279702
>>542276880
Slashy unironically wanted IDW to apologize for this
Anonymous No.542277460
>>542276024
Halo
Anonymous No.542277463 >>542277687 >>542277781 >>542277840 >>542277895 >>542278391 >>542278715 >>542278810 >>542282950
When you played Sonic 1 for the first time were you blinded by its majesty?
Anonymous No.542277481 >>542278251
>>542274914
>>542276118
kys realdash
Anonymous No.542277542
>>542277357
I desperately want /sthg/ to shut up about JP characterization when even their own people don't like it. Shut the hell up forever about it.
Anonymous No.542277602
>>542276972
Undertale Japan vs Sonic Japan
The Sonic franchise has sold an estimated 1.6-8 million in Japan, thought it’s somewhere in the 4 million range if you include the Olympics.
Anonymous No.542277658
>>542277357
>Sonic team finally gives up and allows a SatAM reboot to exist
>The Japanese love it
Anonymous No.542277687
>>542277463
By the time I learned of the hedgehog's intent, there was nothing I could do
Anonymous No.542277781
>>542277463
not until i played sonic 2 and 3. I could never go back after that
Anonymous No.542277840
>>542277463
I played it on the Mega Collection
I was surprised at the lack of a spin-dash.
I now like going back to it for that reason alone, it's almost unique in the franchise, as well as it's 8-bit counterpart. I don't like that Origins classic mode adds it in, but it's not like I haven't got ample ways to play Sonic 1.
>blinded by its majesty
No Sonic game has done that, and I've played these games for most of my life. Sonic Adventure 1's hubs were good and I liked some of Frontier's places but no, there are better games with better scenery and worlds.
Anonymous No.542277895
>>542277463
My first game was Sonic 2. I thought it was aight, I liked the cartoon more.(AOSTH)
Anonymous No.542277961 >>542278102
But wikipedia tells me Sonic as a multimedia franchise is not much lower than Mario in sales.
Anonymous No.542278102 >>542278371
>>542277961
Mario as a multimedia is much higher
Sega includes β€œdownloads” so when they talk numbers they talk how people people downloaded Sonic Dash
But in reality all that shows is even with them giving out free fucking games they still are behind in numbers
Anonymous No.542278251
>>542277481
FUCK OFF Realdash
Anonymous No.542278371
>>542278102
>Sonic - $7.37 billion
>Mario- $8.75 billion
Anonymous No.542278391
>>542277463
I was until Marble Zone and then I stopped playing because it was shit
Anonymous No.542278482
>>542253074 (OP)
Why do you keep shilling this literal who cartoon that 0 people watched
Anonymous No.542278537
>>542276024
I used to love playing planetside 2 a lot. Haven't played in a couple years now. I think about going back to it every now and again. Miss when there used to be a general on /vg/
Anonymous No.542278645
Anonymous No.542278715
>>542277463
I've played halo 2 so much as a kid back in the day I still have whole scenes memorized by heart.
Anonymous No.542278810
>>542277463
Played Sonic 2 first. Got to Chemical Plant, kept drowning, and gave up. Only interaction with Sonic media after that was through AOSTH and the general Internet. Eventually picked up Sonic 3, sucked at it, and gave up again. Later played Sonic Heroes and that became my favorite Sonic game.
Anonymous No.542279004 >>542284457
>>542276024
Resistance Fall of Man
Then Resistance 2 was so bad I have never played an FPS since.
Anonymous No.542279017
aww more amy tail waggle, even when she's dead tired she's happy to see sonikku
Anonymous No.542279330 >>542279486
I'm remembering there was something interesting brought up while ago about how Ian wrote Archie Sonic. He might've partially based it off Edward Elric from Fullmetal Alchemist because Ian considers that story a masterpiece.
Anonymous No.542279452
>and then we make sonic a royal
>and make him fat
>With necklace
>And obsessed with fast food
what the fuck is wrong with americlaps?
Anonymous No.542279465 >>542279937 >>542280008 >>542292537
Anonymous No.542279486 >>542279593 >>542279893
>>542279330
Full Metal Alchemist is a good story, will give him that
Wish Sonic was ballsy enough to tackle horrors beyond our comprehension
Anonymous No.542279576
wait when was the day of disaster
10 years after shadow 05 or 190 years in the future
Anonymous No.542279593
>>542279486
If they do the Shadow sub series correctly, maybe he will be. Sonic is too milquetoast for that.
Anonymous No.542279702 >>542279898 >>542280062
>>542277434
Nearly all of sthg wanted that. Get rid of your boogieman fetish
Anonymous No.542279893
>>542279486
Evan also likes this series but has no idea how to write it.
Anonymous No.542279898 >>542279975 >>542280075
>>542279702
Why do you always do that? This completely manufactured appeal to the majority. As if /sthg/ is any kind of majority.
Anonymous No.542279937
>>542279465
Whisper is fatty fat fat!
Anonymous No.542279970
i hate gacha slop
Anonymous No.542279975 >>542280365
>>542279898
So you are admitting you IDW cucks are the minority.
Anonymous No.542280008
>>542279465
The Tangle has no clue what Whisper and I do behind her back.
Anonymous No.542280062 >>542280157
>>542279702
We're not that dumb to believe that a company should apologize for one character acting slightly mean. You do not represent all of /sthg/ and you would think nearly a decade of being here would have you come to that conclusion yourself but I reckon at this point you genuinely cannot see the differences between this thread and the AI threads you make to agree with you
Anonymous No.542280075 >>542280365 >>542280938
>>542279898
Lanolin is hated on xitter too.
Anonymous No.542280083 >>542280349
These niggas were just showing off this chapter.
Anonymous No.542280157 >>542280354
>>542280062
The poll kind of proves IDW is really unpopular here. Even SATAM is more liked and I hate it.
Anonymous No.542280224
>>542273581
Cool animation...wasted on Silver
Can you stop desperately trying to make him popular? It's not gonna work
Anonymous No.542280230 >>542280395
Anonymous No.542280349
>>542280083
They wanted to make Tangle look so cool like she didn't get bodied by Mimic playing happy slaps in the T&W mini.
Anonymous No.542280354
>>542280157
The poll shows that everyone but Surge and Kit are unpopular, and Tangle is REALLY hated here.
Anonymous No.542280365
>>542280075
>>542279975
you are doing it again
Anonymous No.542280395 >>542280573 >>542281851
>>542280230
>bro thinks he's part of the team :wilted_flower:
Anonymous No.542280485 >>542280569 >>542280685
Why are IDWfags so desperate to come here and say that /sthg/ does not matter? Are they that butthurt that this place hates their comic?
Anonymous No.542280569 >>542280685
>>542280485
They found out Tangle and Whisper were never going to be in CrossWorlds and have started their meltdowns.
Anonymous No.542280573 >>542281851
>>542280395
Anonymous No.542280590
>>542273581
Genuinely thankful for all this future Silver content because it means Sega will never actually go this route if they actually touch on Silver's future in any meaningful capacity. The generic cyber punk dystopia crap is so lame.
Anonymous No.542280685 >>542280837 >>542280937
>>542280569
>>542280485
What is wrong with you
Anonymous No.542280837
>>542280685
How long you got?
Anonymous No.542280937
>>542280685
I am on sthg
Anonymous No.542280938 >>542281081 >>542281315 >>542281637
>>542280075
A character hated does not mean they are a bad character nor does it mean anyone should have to apologize for this.
While one can argue how effective Lanolin was as a contagonist, she's clearly there to be a foil for the rest of the team. The team is not Sally's team of friendship earned over time, it's a volunteer group of people who don't see eye to eye and also has a mole in their midst, anyone writing will create conflict by having the mole have someone be more on their side because that then stirs conflict between the good guys. Lanolin is a good guy, but believes Mimic's innocent. Whisper is a good guy, but knows Mimic is not. When Whisper routinely ignores Lanolin, a catalyst for a breakdown of the group.
Personally I think that Lanolin should have went further as to then create more of a divide. I don't like that she then apologizes so easily after being proven wrong, there should have been a way more shame and reluctance to admit wrong.

But I didn't write it.
But to not be able to see that and demand an apology after the issue came out is peak stupidity and a comprehension of "character dynamics withing a group" as a slab of cement
Your revisionism won't save you, you don't get to pull the "It didn't amount to much", because you were bitching on day one you fucking turkey
Anonymous No.542281081 >>542281259 >>542281387
>>542280938
Yeah but they are bad because they constrain the core cast to be anti-wind and force their military drama everywhere.
Anonymous No.542281182 >>542281442
I LOVE 3D BLAST I LOOOOOOVE 3D BLAAAAAST
Anonymous No.542281259 >>542281321 >>542281637
>>542281081
Shut the fuck up about the "wind" shit. No one gives a fuck.
Anonymous No.542281260 >>542281482
Anonymous No.542281315 >>542282087
>>542280938
>When Whisper routinely ignores Lanolin, a catalyst for a breakdown of the group.
The problem is the opposite - Lanolin routinely ignores Whisper/Silver and the complete lack of communication between the two is the only real "catalyst" for conflict which is one of the laziest ways to do it. It sucks in every media where literally just talking would solve the issue.
Anonymous No.542281321 >>542281407
>>542281259
Everyone gives a fuck. It is the foundation of what makes Sonic sonic.
Anonymous No.542281343
What's wrong with following other opinions?
Anonymous No.542281387 >>542281660
>>542281081
But if you want conflict, and you truly believe Sonic to be the Wind because, I don't know, you're missing neuron connections in vital places, then surely for a character starring them for interesting scenarios to evolve, you need someone to challenge that. Sure Eggman, but having people on your side who have different beliefs on how you should act is way more interesting than everyone going
>Yeah Sonic, you are the wind and such, do as you do because it's the best, go team wind Sonic
As much as I think this wind shit is stupid, I'm talking on a story level, for conflict you need opposing views and characters.
Anonymous No.542281407
>>542281321
No it isn't.
Anonymous No.542281442
>>542281182
3D FLICKIES ISLAND 3D FLICKIES ISLAND
Anonymous No.542281482
>>542281260
Violet No.542281637 >>542281759 >>542282034 >>542282172
>>542280938
>defending ShitDW for having unlikeable characters who are supposed to be 'heroes'
>defending terrible forced melodrama in your shitty military drama that wishes it was M*A*S*H
>wanting more forced military drama OCslop instead of fun adventures with cool mascot characters
>advocating for this in the thread like a pantsu on head retard
ISHYGDDT
>>542281259
So you hate Sonic then, got it. You revealed what your behavior prior implied. You don't care about Sonic. You care about poorly written teenage melodrama poor man's M*A*S*H.

Lanolin is an absolutely terrible character premise. She's the equivalent of the Sally slap panel from IDW but made into a character. Her whole purpose is to fuck over adventures and loathe the wind and Sonic.
Anonymous No.542281657 >>542282826
Whisper, Cream is a baby child who just saw her mom get raped by like 20 zombots, how is she tanking emotional trauma better than you YOU ARE AN ADULT
Anonymous No.542281660
>>542281387
Lanolin does not challenge Sonic as much as she should. Sonic does not even try to truly disobey her.
Anonymous No.542281679 >>542281841
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUkXd_8Clt0
Anonymous No.542281759 >>542282034
>>542281637
Holy shit you got the resident Sallyfag angry at you. And everyone thinks Lanolin is just Sally already
Anonymous No.542281841
>>542281679
the most in-character silver has ever been
Anonymous No.542281851 >>542282596
>>542280573
>>542280395
Victory belongs to the most tenacious. Sega is going to shut you up some day, and We will get the last laugh
Anonymous No.542281881 >>542282034
I wish both idw and wind faggots fuck off from this general already.
Violet No.542282034 >>542282156 >>542282460
>>542281759
Lanolin is a poor man's reboot Archie Sally. She's all the terrible traits of the DEAD FLYNNCHIE's OOC Sally without any of the positive echoes of her original character.
>>542281637
*from Archie, typo.
>>542281881
Wind never dies.
Anonymous No.542282087 >>542282335 >>542282348 >>542284429
>>542281315
That's the thing though, it's a story, where things don't happen like that. For interesting stories to happen, you have to take off the sensible brakes. What stories from your own life do you remember more, the one where your boss listened to what you had to say or the one where your boss REFUSED to listen to reason and shit went south.
Studying stories as a "That's not what I would have done" is not the point of stories. Conflict must happen because otherwise it would not be interesting. Lanolin must disregard her concerns and Whisper must get annoyed at this to make this a story worth telling. Otherwise you're telling the story of
>Lanolin, I think Duo is Mimic!
>Oh shit, let's check
>He was
>And Lanolin and Whisper made filthy sloppy sex on page 5 as they agreed with each other hard

It had already been stated that Lanolin isn't fond of the team's otherwise foolhardy approach to shit, she's going to be suspicious of their antics. Whisper will find this annoying when Lanolin doesn't immediately trust their judgement
Smackadeedoosh

Watching a horror film and going "Why did they just go into the basement without calling their friends over and grabbing a gun and updating their parents on the status" is pure not understanding the story in front of you. This person's gonna be pulverized because we need them to be pulverized, that is their current role. That does not make them a bad character.

>what about whisper in other places
I dunno, you wanted an apology for this bit, you explain why you don't understand this bit
Anonymous No.542282156
>>542282034
>Blue streak speeds by
Sounds pretty windy to me
Anonymous No.542282172
>>542281637
Thank you for saying something. The Phantom Rider shit goes against Sonic's core ideals of not listening to anyone he disagrees with.

He should have never compromised his values but Evan wanted a Kamen Rider reference so here we are.

The Phantom Rider is like Surge and Kit, a really cool concept that carries everything because the actual execution is awful.
Anonymous No.542282335 >>542283037
>>542282087
Just admit you want Flynn Archie again.
Violet No.542282348 >>542282485 >>542282556
>>542282087
>Conflict must happen because otherwise it would not be interesting.
t, idiotic westerner who does not understand kishotenketsu
Anonymous No.542282460
>>542282034
I have seen comparisons to Geoffrey St. John. You have to remember though Evan Stanley was the one who spent the most time writing Lanolin, she is primarily responsible for her being such an awful character.
Anonymous No.542282465
can you see how many likes do other players have in crossworlds?
Anonymous No.542282485 >>542283625
>>542282348
Not him but I sure don't. Care to explain anon? It sounds interesting.
Anonymous No.542282556 >>542283625
>>542282348
They have a point, but not all conflict is good to explore.

Do we need a story about Amy wondering why her period came late?
Anonymous No.542282596 >>542282879 >>542282998
>>542281851
Shove your saiyanhog trio up your ass already
Anonymous No.542282826 >>542282890
>>542281657
Well you see, Cream is a game character, so she's not allowed to go thought the same emotional trauma as Whisper.
Anonymous No.542282879 >>542283232
>>542282596
Kill thineself.
Anonymous No.542282890
>>542282826
That is a good thing desu given how IDW handled Whisper.
Anonymous No.542282908
>>542270703
Look at her go!
Anonymous No.542282950
>>542277463
I don't know what that means. But my first experience with it was reaching Marble Zone and being confused, uninterested, and unimpressed. I wasn't paying much attention at the time though. I replayed it about a year later being more mindful of what I was doing and actually engaging with the level design, controls, zones, and music, and I loved it, Marble Zone quickly became my favorite zone. It was very satisfying to complete Labyrinth Zone for the first time and be rewarded with the relief of going through Starlight Zone, and then the final platforming challenge of Scrap Brain Zone. Eventually I got good at Labyrinth Zone and I got to complete it more quickly, and now it's my second favorite zone after Marble Zone. Sonic 1 is one of my favorite games in the series
Anonymous No.542282998 >>542283056
>>542282596
nah, saiyanhogs fucking won
Anonymous No.542283007
Anonymous No.542283037 >>542283170 >>542283625
>>542282335
That isn't what I'm saying. Please try and use reading comprehension. I'm not even a big fan of IDW, but I know about this situation and read into it because of the SINS OF IDW's ISSUE and it's ... fine?
Wanting conflict in a story is not wanting one person back. It's just wanting something interesting to read. This isn't even about Sonic, I'm all for Sonic being a fun read all around, but
>Sonic Adventure
>Knuckles should trust Sonic by now
>Eggman easily tricks him, as he has done before
>Knuckles is the reason Sonic loses Emeralds
>they argue and fight
Look, conflict, even though those two should have been able to hash it out by talking
Wow I can't believe Sonic Adventure is terrible
This is what you sound like
Fucking moron
Anonymous No.542283056 >>542283385 >>542284184
>>542282998
By killing the franchise?
Anonymous No.542283060 >>542283947
The IDW comics lack quality control from Sega likely because SEGA does not give a crap.
Anonymous No.542283108
Anonymous No.542283170 >>542283343
>>542283037
The conflict goes against the foundational characterization of the core cast and essentially the theme of freedom that Sonic was meant to embody.
Anonymous No.542283232
>>542282879
If sonic facebook was a thing this would do numbers
Anonymous No.542283298
Has the sonic community ever came to a consensus on how to refer to a bunch of sonic characters specifically? Like is there a term in referencing a bunch of sonic characters that I can say and people will know what I'm talking about?
Anonymous No.542283343 >>542283447 >>542283597 >>542283625 >>542283815
>>542283170
Sonic is a fucking mascot dude, get off your high horse.
Anonymous No.542283349 >>542283526 >>542283558 >>542290613
Unironic 06 silverfags, how much did you want to kill Ian for this?
Anonymous No.542283378
Hedgehog trio is Blaze erasure.
Anonymous No.542283385 >>542283765 >>542284039
>>542283056
nah, we need more fucking saiyans. We need Super Amy, Super Zavok, Super Vector and Super Jet and bring back Neo Metal Sonic.
Anonymous No.542283447 >>542283731
>>542283343
So Is Mario and Mario has never done dumb shit like this
Anonymous No.542283526
>>542283349
This is perfectly in character.
Anonymous No.542283537 >>542283872 >>542289350
But Blaze is alternate universe Sonic.
Anonymous No.542283558
>>542283349
im schizo i dont
Anonymous No.542283597
>>542283343
IDWfags hate Sonic. Who knew?
Violet No.542283625 >>542283889 >>542285035 >>542289204
>>542282485
Kishotenketsu is a story structure where a story is told in four acts. A staple of east asian storytelling.
Ki. Introduction. The introduction serves to establish the setting, characters, and initial status quo.
Sho. Development. The introduction is expanded upon, with the world receiving more depth.
Ten. Twist. There is a sudden shift in the story. Either due to a new perspective or a surprising development.
Ketsu. Resolution. The twist is reconciled with the status quo of the story, creating a unified conclusion.
Kishotenketsu does not require a conflict. For example, I'm writing a shipping story with next to no conflict that relies on this storytelling structure. I can share the outline for it if you're interested in reading that. It can serve as an example.
>>542282556
No, they don't. You don't need conflict to tell a good story. Slice of life shows this well.
Conflict can contribute to a good story but it is not at all essential.
>>542283037
This conflict exists to go against the foundation of the series. A fun adventure series about a hedgehog who loves adventure. Forced military drama detracts from the purpose of Sonic the Hedgehog. This shouldn't be in a Sonic comic. Most generously, it could exist in supplementary material (i.e. Archie's 'Sonic Universe') but it should not at all be the core focus of the franchise. SatAM understood this. AoSTH understood this. Sonic X understood this. Blade of Courage understands this. And most importantly, the games understand this.
>>542283343
Sonic being a fun mascot franchise is exactly why it shouldn't have forced military drama about furry OCs in its main comic.
Anonymous No.542283731 >>542283905 >>542284127
>>542283447
I'm sorry, does Mario have an ongoing serialized comic book?
Anonymous No.542283765
>>542283385
Everyone should have a super form. What’s retarded is having it only for the hogs
Anonymous No.542283797
the vault
doesn't exist
Anonymous No.542283815 >>542284970
>>542283343
>trying to defend contentious writing on the basis that it is good to explore these kinds of conflicts
>"Hey this goes against the themes the franchise was based on."
>Ummm well Sonic is mascot slop anyway so who cares

Why even bother having this debate if you believe this?
Anonymous No.542283872
>>542283537
So?
Anonymous No.542283889
>>542283625
I wish Sparky was here so you could band together and annihilate these dumbasses in the marketplace of ideas.
Violet No.542283905 >>542284265
>>542283731
Why should the comic be fucking serialized? This is an episodic adventure series.
The fact the comic is "serialized" is already a failure. It shows that they're unable to do fun and exciting accessible episodic stories for their readerbase. So they rely on fake plot development and military drama slop.
Anonymous No.542283907
Anonymous No.542283947
>>542283060
We know.

Also, why so slow /sthg/?
Anonymous No.542283980
The french comic is how Sonic should be.
Anonymous No.542284024 >>542284106 >>542284418
Lanolin the Sheep? You mean the glorified secretary from the Evan Stanley coloring book? Jesus Christ. You want to know how she's a disgrace to what SatAM characters were supposed to represent? Buddy, she's the goddamn poster child for everything wrong with the post-Naka era.

Let's get one thing straight: The Knothole Freedom Fighters were a goddamn guerrilla resistance. They were dirty, they were desperate, they were fighting a war against a tyrant from the shadows. Sally Acorn was a princess-turned-strategist, a field commander, the perfect "Nega Sonic." She was the motherly, knows-best authority ("mommy dommy," if you will) that provided the perfect counterbalance to Sonic's pure, chaotic, American rebellious energy. She was a LEADER forged in fire.

And what is Lanolin? She's a fucking middle-manager. A bureaucrat. She "leads" a "team" in the "Restoration." The whole concept is neutered, corporate garbage. It's not a rebellion; it's a goddamn government cleanup crew. Lanolin is the person who makes sure you've filled out your T-47 forms in triplicate before you're allowed to go fight a Badnik. She is the HR department of the Freedom Fighters. She is the antithesis of the entire SatAM spirit.
Anonymous No.542284039
>>542283385
>tfw have a dumb headcanon of Super Vector turning into a western dragon like Trip and Super Zavok turning into a chinese dragon, because it's his favorite animal
Anonymous No.542284049
Dead is how Sonic should be.
Anonymous No.542284070
>>542276024
Darktide
Anonymous No.542284106
>>542284024
the way you type pisses me off
Anonymous No.542284127
>>542283731
Yes, you dumb tourist
Anonymous No.542284184
>>542283056
You're thinking of someone else.
Anonymous No.542284265 >>542284496
>>542283905
Well I mean I am okay if the arcs are serialized within themselves but the entire comic should not as it makes no sense to be canon then.
Anonymous No.542284340
Why don't like the 8-bit games?
Anonymous No.542284418
>>542284024
>Lanolin is the person who makes sure you've filled out your T-47 forms in triplicate before you're allowed to go fight a Badnik. She is the HR department of the Freedom Fighters. She is the antithesis of the entire SatAM spirit.
Jewel is the same way just less of and asshat and more competent.
Anonymous No.542284429
>>542282087
This storyline should have focused more on Mimic being tricky/smart rather than the NeoDC having a breakdown in communication. The storyline didn't do a good job of selling Mimic as an Infiltrator, and I think part of the issue is that Mimic didn't really have a clearly defined motivation for infiltrating the NeoDC.
Anonymous No.542284457 >>542284597
>>542279004
Yes I have actually.
Anonymous No.542284496 >>542284692
>>542284265
It wasn't canon until SEGA forced it to be. This is what you retards never seem to understand.
Anonymous No.542284597
>>542284457
Happy for you bro. Live what we cannot.
Anonymous No.542284692 >>542284842
>>542284496
Okay then SEGA failed to put the writers in place and keep them in line.
Anonymous No.542284753
>>542269237
Anonymous No.542284842 >>542285138
>>542284692
They've kept them in line recently, which is why the stories are just as boring as the current games are now.
Anonymous No.542284853
Anonymous No.542284970 >>542285231 >>542285706
>>542283815
Imagine, if you will, that you are arguing with multiple people, and that I'm the one who argued for conflicts, and the mascot slop was a different poster
It's almost like there's many people here and the lack of an identification system does not mean that everyone who is commenting on the issue is the same person or does not have different opinions
Dumbass
Anonymous No.542285026
Remember that fan comic where knuckles castrate tails
Anonymous No.542285035 >>542286009
>>542283625
I would appreciate it anon.
Anonymous No.542285076
>>542269009
At least its not Megan fox
Anonymous No.542285138 >>542285289
>>542284842
So Flynn is the problem then.
Anonymous No.542285231 >>542285678
>>542284970
You don't seem to enjoy 4chan. Most anons take this as a consequence of not having identities, you seem way too angry about it. You sound like a tourist.
Anonymous No.542285289 >>542285369
>>542285138
...How the FUCK are you coming to that conclusion when Japan writes the games?
Anonymous No.542285369 >>542285470
>>542285289
Flynn writes the games and Japan localizes them.

All Sonic Team does is write the plot, but that was not even the case for Shadow Generations or Sonic Racing Crossworlds.
Anonymous No.542285412
Anonymous No.542285470 >>542285592 >>542286009
>>542285369
>All Sonic Team does is write the plot
And the plots are the elements that are boring, so I return you to my original statement
Anonymous No.542285549
Anonymous No.542285592 >>542285754
>>542285470
The plots are far better than a mangled attempt at the freedom fighters.
Anonymous No.542285678
>>542285231
Shut the fuck up Slashy
>boogeyman
This is exactly how you type
>You don't seem to like Sonic
>We don't like IDW here
>Why are you here
If people disagree with you

I was letting you know that just because there's no poster ID does not mean that everyone you argue with is one person. But that's also something you can't quite understand because you are so dumb it hurts my own brain.
I don't know why I continue to come here when it's basically reading your stupid misguided dumb and stupid, thoughtless, lack of reading ability addled brain that is all I end up replying to
Anonymous No.542285706
>>542284970
Imagine, if you will, that nobody cares and you talk like a fag
Anonymous No.542285754 >>542286080
>>542285592
That's Forces dumbass.
Anonymous No.542285774
Y'know that prog IDW editor is the one who probably pushed for Tangle and Whisper to be lesbians which killed them.
Anonymous No.542285776
Anonymous No.542285890 >>542285958
I can't believe I'm actually going to say this, but thank God for Sega of Japan.

I see you people, the ones who worship Ian Flynn and Evan Stanley, crying about how SOJ holds them back. You should be on your knees thanking them. Their stubborn, corporate incompetence is the only thing keeping this franchise from collapsing into the absolute worst kind of 2000s-era DeviantArt slop.

You want to know what Flynn's vision for Sonic is? Look at the arguments you people have. You're talking about Amy's "selfless love and compassion," how she just "wants to be part of the adventure." Get the hell out of here with that sentimental garbage. That's not a character, that's a goddamn narrative jobber. Amy is "Girl Sonic." She's supposed to be a cool rebel girl, the feminine equivalent of Sonic's rebellious spirit. This whole "self-proclaimed girlfriend" schtick is a fundamental misunderstanding by the Japanese team, and hacks like Flynn just double down on it because it's easier than writing a real character.

Flynn and Stanley are the Pelosis of the Sonic world. They want to gut the core strength of the franchise and replace it with their own weak, pandering garbage that appeals to the lowest common denominator. So yeah, I'll take SOJ's flawed, stubborn protectionism. It's the only thing stopping this whole series from becoming a DeviantArt page full of bad OCs and worse writing.
Anonymous No.542285953 >>542286097 >>542286279
Fuck this shit, maybe Tails spammer had the right idea
Anonymous No.542285958
>>542285890
Bootlicker
Violet No.542286009 >>542286458 >>542286526 >>542287376
>>542285035
https://pastebin.com/bLssFGB9
>>542285470
So you think the premises are more boring than the terrible dialogue?
You think Flynn's dialogue in the games is... good?
You think frontiers slop writing is acceptable?
>Tails: Whenever there's a crisis, I'm either running away or standing on the sidelines. You're always rescuing me when all I do is follow you around.
>Tails: I... then I'm wildly inconsistent.
>Sonic: I'll be back before you can do a Fortune Card reading
>Eggman: May I alert you to the fact that time is of the essence, and you are wasting time!
>Knuckles: What, you think I don't know that? I know that!
Anonymous No.542286014 >>542286064
>>542254789
>>542256664
>>542257116
>>542257217
>>542257459
Why do you hate Rouge so much, she's not a town whore.
Anonymous No.542286064
>>542286014
You're right, she's shadow's wife and silver's mom.
Anonymous No.542286080 >>542286343
>>542285754
And who is the one who wanted a comic entirely based on Forces? Who eagerly wanted to continue Forces long after it was dead?

Flynn and Stanley did, they want the entire Sonic franchise to resemble Forces. Forces was supposed to be a one and done game, but they took it as an opportunity to shove in SATAM garbage.
Anonymous No.542286097
>>542285953
Which one?
The pedo or the archeschizo?
Anonymous No.542286167
Downunda
Upabov
Raiderre
Toyaleft
Anonymous No.542286279 >>542286371 >>542297176
>>542285953
No Tails sucks
Anonymous No.542286324
Anonymous No.542286343 >>542286524
>>542286080
>Let's make the comics about your new game. a perfect tie in
This is how business is usually done, you genius.
>Bu... but Why not make it about SA2
They can start at SA2 and then move up till we get forces. then we are back at step 1. YOU GENIUS
Violet No.542286371
>>542286279
Tails is amazing.
Anonymous No.542286418 >>542286565
Westerners should make games and the japs write.
Anonymous No.542286458
>>542286009
Pull up any of Amy's dialogue from Crossworlds which had to be salvaged in the Japanese script.
Anonymous No.542286485
Anonymous No.542286524 >>542286828
>>542286343
Flynn chose that not SEGA. IDW should have never been tied to one game.
Anonymous No.542286526 >>542286828
>>542286009
Thank you anon. That explained a lot. Though I never thought of Sonic as a writer.
Anonymous No.542286537 >>542287430
Anonymous No.542286565
>>542286418
I should write AND participate in making the games
Anonymous No.542286801 >>542287978
If you defend the Restoration beyond just being some organization in universe, you hate Sonic
Anonymous No.542286828 >>542286917
>>542286526
nta but picrel
>though I never thought of Sonic as a writer.
He also allegedly "speaks" to Kishimoto. so there's sonic as a writer and sonic as a gamedev

>>542286524
and that counters my point how?
Anonymous No.542286901 >>542290924
Trashmy
Anonymous No.542286917 >>542287001
>>542286828
Because Flynn's shitty writing is what makes IDW have shitty writing.
Anonymous No.542287001 >>542287070
>>542286917
He doesn't even write for IDW
Anonymous No.542287058
I hate Sonic.
Anonymous No.542287070
>>542287001
He still does he wrote issue 80. He is the CO head writer.

He also is the one who set the comic up which is what we are talking about at the moment.
Anonymous No.542287118 >>542287220 >>542287384 >>542287419
If you have standards, you hate Sonic
Anonymous No.542287220 >>542287537
>>542287118
my standards are not that high but i don't tolerate slop
Anonymous No.542287376
>>542286009
I do like the premise, but Cream is too good for Sonic.
Violet No.542287384
>>542287118
I have standards.
I love Sonic the Hedgehog.

If you're strong, you can fly. You can reach the other side of the rainbow.
It's alright, take a chance. 'Cause there is no circumstance that you can't handle when you use your mind.
Mr. Bad's got it good, but this ain't his neighborhood he's taking over, no, no.
Time is now. He can't hide. Find the power deep inside and make it happen.
Sonic Boom.
Trouble keeps you moving faster. Save the planet from disaster.
https://youtu.be/_xiiwOnbNKI
Anonymous No.542287419
>>542287118
I have standards. I don't tolerate Flynn and Stanley slop.
Anonymous No.542287430 >>542288520
>>542286537
https://youtu.be/DWk7qF-hW1Y
Anonymous No.542287501 >>542289385 >>542290583
Im gonna draw some Bump.
Got any ideas? also you got any good references of her I'd appreciate them
Anonymous No.542287537
>>542287220
picrel
Anonymous No.542287542 >>542287798
x.com/quaverdraws/status/1977095127991828921
Anonymous No.542287549 >>542288040 >>542288171
Evan was inspired by Fleetway which was heavily written by someone who openly disliked Sonic entirely.
Anonymous No.542287690 >>542287917 >>542287942 >>542288415
Anonymous No.542287798
>>542287542
She's about to get fucked, if you catch my drift.
Anonymous No.542287892 >>542287936 >>542288101
Sonic is fine

This place is not
Anonymous No.542287913
Anonymous No.542287917 >>542288313
>>542287690
Anonymous No.542287936
>>542287892
You are only saying that because you got crushed for your crap opinions.
Anonymous No.542287942
>>542287690
>They are doing one more of these interdimensional stories. what are we going back? I want to see the how Scourge escapes prison and how mecha Sally concludes.......... oh.......... oooh.... oh no...
Anonymous No.542287978 >>542288231 >>542288293 >>542288854 >>542289372
>>542286801
Sega tells you the Restoration has to stay. How would you make the Restoration more Sonic-like to fit Modern Sonic's world?
Anonymous No.542288040
>>542287549
And it was still the better comic
If someone who disliked Sonic can write a comic as good as Fleetway then I'll make it so that no-one who likes Sonic can work on a comic
Anonymous No.542288092
IDW fans have no respect for the game characterizations
Anonymous No.542288101
>>542287892
You won't find any place on 4chan that likes current western Sonic writing.
Anonymous No.542288171 >>542288648 >>542288821 >>542294175
>>542287549
SA2 and Black Knight were written by someone who disliked Sonic.
Anonymous No.542288231 >>542291236
>>542287978
Treat it a world building element like G.U.N. don't have team Sonic be that chummy with it.
Anonymous No.542288293
>>542287978
>Sega tells you the Restoration has to stay.
Won't happen
Anonymous No.542288313
>>542287917
CREAM IS SO FUCKING CUTE I CANT STAND IT
Anonymous No.542288415 >>542288653
>>542287690
STUPID CREAM, PUNISHMENT TIME!
Anonymous No.542288520
>>542287430
EKIDONA, THAT'S WHAT I'M REPRESENTIN
Anonymous No.542288613 >>542288831
anon died and you did nothing to save him
Anonymous No.542288648 >>542292048 >>542292228
>>542288171
He learned to appreciate what Sonic was.
Anonymous No.542288653
>>542288415
sauce before you get nuked please
Anonymous No.542288787
>>542270418
Technically, Jimmy Neutron is The Hulk.

Tails should not ever be the Hulk.
Anonymous No.542288821 >>542289139 >>542293193
>>542288171
Maekawa was fixing a broken foundation not shoving it out entirely.
Anonymous No.542288831
>>542288613
he asked for it
Violet No.542288854 >>542289138 >>542290164 >>542293018
>>542287978
1. Make it a decentralized organization that exists around the planet, not bound to a specific place. (IDW seems to be moving in this direction, which is good).
2. Make it primarily exist to support Sonic in his adventures. For comparison, see Speedwagon Foundation in Jojo. They're a group that exists primarily to assist the protagonists with clean up, transportation, resources, and technology.
3. Make restoration centric OCs fade into the background. They're given fuck-all to do. Jewel can exist as a bureaucrat but that's it. Most of them are now no-name forces OC creator blobians.
4. Operating under the assumption that Sally is 'never ever' coming back, make Lanolin the main mascot of the restoration. Give her a palmtop computer ala NICOLE. Have her use a variety of technology to keep up with the main cast and accompany them on episodic adventures when fitting. Give her more screentime with the core 4. Make her feel like an essential member of the cast. Push her heavily in stories where she makes sense. Have it so that way Sonic isn't afraid to disobey her and she continuously narratively jobs to the wind. Like SatAM's Sally.
Make Lanolin more kind-hearted and genuinely likable. Give her the 'motherly aura' that's sorely lacking from her current depiction. Make her a 'mascotified' version of Archie Sally with heavy inspirations from SatAM Sally and the transformation the game cast took from classic to modern to develop a functional version of the character that works within Sonic's world.
Anonymous No.542288861
Anonymous No.542289138 >>542289370
>>542288854
So rather than Sonic being subjugated by the Restoration the Restoration is subjugated by Sonic.
Anonymous No.542289139 >>542289315 >>542293193
>>542288821
lol no Nishiyama did that, Maekawa devolved everything into soap opera wank
Anonymous No.542289176 >>542290350
fuuuck so many cute creams in this arc man.
Anonymous No.542289204
>>542283625
>Kishotenketsu is a story structure where a story is told in four acts. A staple of east asian storytelling.
>Ki. Introduction. The introduction serves to establish the setting, characters, and initial status quo.
>Sho. Development. The introduction is expanded upon, with the world receiving more depth.
>Ten. Twist. There is a sudden shift in the story. Either due to a new perspective or a surprising development.
>Ketsu. Resolution. The twist is reconciled with the status quo of the story, creating a unified conclusion.
>Kishotenketsu does not require a conflict. For example, I'm writing a shipping story with next to no conflict that relies on this storytelling structure. I can share the outline for it if you're interested in reading that. It can serve as an example.
I guess I'm not the only one whose been obsessed with using Kishotenketsu as a story structure, huh...?
Anonymous No.542289315
>>542289139
No Flynn pushed the soap opera stuff. He is the writer who had no respect for the foundation.
Anonymous No.542289350
>>542283537
No, Blaze is "Nega-Sonic". She is not simply "What if Sonic but from another universe", she is a separate character that serves as the polar-opposite foil to Sonic.
Violet No.542289370 >>542289634
>>542289138
Yes, absolutely.
In SatAM, the freedom fighters were an organization considered under Sonic's leadership. They deferred to him. Even when Sally, their secondary leader, disagreed. He was always correct. They existed to support him.
If we're doing the 'freedom fighters' again, then it needs to be the ORIGINAL FREEDOM FIGHTERS, not the out of character archie slop that tried to subjugate Sonic.
The Freedom Fighters were those inspired by Sonic, the wind, to stand up against oppression and assist him. If we're doing something like that, then they need to support the wind. Not try and put it in a fucking cage.
Anonymous No.542289372 >>542289820
>>542287978
...Make Restoration the local cops. Not GUN level but someone has to be the police for petty shit.
Anonymous No.542289385 >>542291978
>>542287501
Since Crossworlds recently came out, Bump in a Bumper Car because of course she would.
Anonymous No.542289448 >>542289550
Anonymous No.542289528 >>542289678
I've been trying to figure out how to properly make an Espio-inspired character for my project that fits within a "Fast Food" theme that the Cream, Vanilla, Charmy and Vector-inspired characters all represent, but I've finally got it.

Espio is the Drink.
Anonymous No.542289550
>>542289448
Chili dogs made it to Japan all the way back then?
Anonymous No.542289634
>>542289370
finally... someone's based around here
Anonymous No.542289646
I thick Sonic fucks!
Anonymous No.542289668 >>542289887 >>542290186
Anonymous No.542289678 >>542289792 >>542289929
>>542289528
Hi sparky what do you think of these IDW fans coming in to attempt superiority in the thread
Anonymous No.542289792 >>542289890
>>542289678
I don't know, I just got here.
Anonymous No.542289820
>>542289372
That's how it always should be. The series was at it's best when the "heroes' were pretty scrappy compared to these big organizations that they have to go up against. Given the amount of orphans in-universe it doesn't seem to me that jokerians like to stay tied down, at least long enough to make massive organizations of their own. Well that or the life expectancy for them (especially males) is like sub-20.
Anonymous No.542289887
>>542289668
Anonymous No.542289890 >>542290552
>>542289792
Look at all the defending of IDW and Lanolin.
Anonymous No.542289904 >>542290408 >>542292585 >>542292885
Thoughts on the God of Destruction?
Anonymous No.542289929 >>542290096 >>542290213
>>542289678
I think maybe the majority of posters here like IDW but don't wanna deal with autist screeching about how it doesn't something some sonic wind ian flynn hack crying lesbians ruined sonic tourists reddit something something so they don't really talk about it.
Anonymous No.542289945
Sonic hanging out with militias is stupid actually
Anonymous No.542289983
Anonymous No.542290056 >>542290257
>>54228913
I don't blame people for not knowing this already but Sally in Archie and Sally in Satam are completely different. Archie Sally was Sonics's core and was able to make him change. Satam Sally explicitly has no ability to control him. That is the reason she argues with him, because even though he is on her side he has no obligation to follow her orders. This is straight from the creator's mouth. Satam Sonic's characterization was almost completely on point, they would just have to cut out the entire romance side because that's the one serious obvious issue.
Anonymous No.542290096
>>542289929
We have a poll proving this otherwise.
Anonymous No.542290164 >>542290318
>>542288854
I hate that your concept sounds reasonable and manageable, and I also hate that the IDW writers would not be talented enough to make good use of it.

Also I would prefer that Jewel retire from the Restoration and go back to her original job at the museum.

Honestly, the whole Restoration bullshit was built on bad bones, going all the way back to the very concept of Forces
Anonymous No.542290186
>>542289668
>join a race or get kissed and your dick sucked by a machine with big lips
Oh...no?
Violet No.542290213 >>542290774 >>542292209
>>542289929
That clearly can't be the case when the IDW characters are hated on the objective poll that is extremely difficult to bot because it requires extensive data collection on many different characters.
https://allourideas.org/soniccharacters/results
Anonymous No.542290257
>>542290056
Yeah, that's why this chart exists.
Anonymous No.542290318
>>542290164
Her being a museum operator for gems makes so much sense in a franchise that constantly has gems of mystical power.

Also would give Rouge another antagonist.
Anonymous No.542290350 >>542290930
>>542289176
Man, I hate it when anons reread this stupid comic with random screencaps
Anonymous No.542290408 >>542291508
>>542289904
Those dirty echidna spics got what was coming to them.
Anonymous No.542290507 >>542290721
How the fuck was Ben Hurst, the creator of Sally Acorn (the character at the root of Sonic being ooc in the west) able to accurately describe Sonic's characterization when years later Ian struggles to handle it?
These discussions make it sound like Sonic is monumentally difficult to get right when all you have to do ALL YOU HAVE TO DO is not tie him down.
Anonymous No.542290552
>>542289890
I guess I just glossed over it while skimming the thread.
Anonymous No.542290583 >>542291978
>>542287501
Bump in either a pantsu+spaghetti top combo, or a bikini. Emphasis on her boobs cause thats her thing.
Dont have some good references though
Anonymous No.542290613
>>542283349
This is out of character.
Anonymous No.542290721 >>542290808 >>542291123
>>542290507
Amerimutts like to lecture on FREEDOM and WIND but it's all co-opted as an excuse for imposing TECHNO-SLAVERY
Anonymous No.542290774 >>542290968 >>542291115
>>542290213
>requires extensive data collection
just seems like a glorified +1-1 clicker system. If an autist was clicking these religiously he could probably skew the polls.
>73k votes
yeah nah, theres not that many people voting on this, just a handful of auts trying to boost their favorites and sandbag their hateds.
Anonymous No.542290808
>>542290721
This is a good point
Anonymous No.542290924
>>542286901
amy....please get up....
Anonymous No.542290930
>>542290350
whould you hate it as much if i was talking shit about it?
Violet No.542290968
>>542290774
It only tracks one vote per match up per session (browser + IP).
It'd take an incredibly long time to deal with the poll.
The data appears organic and user collected. I have no reason to believe it's being botted.
The reason it's '73k votes' is because each of those votes is vote per matchup.
This poll has been up for years and has had hundreds of anons contribute to it over time.
Anonymous No.542291115
>>542290774
https://youtube.com/watch?v=XXc3O6GMZt0&t=178s

This is you right now. You were given a good source of evidence and just brush it off.
Anonymous No.542291123
>>542290721
So basically, there are two sides to America:

Sonic the Hedgehog and Doctor Eggman.
Anonymous No.542291236 >>542291352
>>542288231
Sonic is chummy with GUN though and friends with the President, or at least when shit's hitting the fan he will work with them. How is that different from how IDW treats Sonic's relationship with the Restoration(which has the added bonus of having his friends working there).
Anonymous No.542291352 >>542293294
>>542291236
Sonic is not friends with them and is not hanging around their HQ. He by default sees them as an ally but is uninvested in them.
Anonymous No.542291508 >>542291693 >>542291708
>>542290408
Rouge, you're Latina.
Anonymous No.542291543
>Death chamber
>Death chamber
>Death chamber
Anonymous No.542291672
Raping Sonic
Anonymous No.542291693 >>542291785
>>542291508
I like Cream being Latina.
Anonymous No.542291708
>>542291508
>adding and subtracting sexiness
Anonymous No.542291785 >>542292342
>>542291693
Cream is Japanese.
Anonymous No.542291878
Anonymous No.542291978 >>542292216
>>542289385
>>542290583
Got any good references for Bump though?
Anonymous No.542292048 >>542292228 >>542292982 >>542293467
>>542288648
When did Maekawa start appreciating Classic Sonic?

This interview seems to suggest he is grateful that, at the time, Sonic as a character was flexible enough for him to work with for his story. But it doesn't suggest that he likes the character.
Anonymous No.542292209
>>542290213
lmao why is metal #3
Anonymous No.542292216 >>542292448
>>542291978
Anonymous No.542292228 >>542292772
>>542288648
>>542292048
Does Maekawa HAAAAATE THAAAAT HEEEEDGEHOOOOOG?
Anonymous No.542292342
>>542291785
>Clothing
>Excessively polite
>Bows/curtseys a lot
>Missing father figure
>Raises literal moeblobs
She might be yeah. Maybe a hafu with a military dad who fucked off or died but shes very japanese. Only thing that isn't is her house and Vanilla dresses very british... ly
Anonymous No.542292448
>>542292216
Thank you, anon.
I'll post it all finished up later today.
Anonymous No.542292482
Anonymous No.542292537
>>542279465
This is a korean artist. Rare. I think I like the interpretation of butchsper than fatisper, but that somehow makes Tangle as the tomboy more girly
Anonymous No.542292585 >>542292781
>>542289904
Weird retcon.

>Implying Eggman wasn't the prophesied "dragon" in S3&K.
Anonymous No.542292636
Anonymous No.542292772 >>542292952 >>542293004
>>542292228
It's funny because Ben Hurst also said the same thing about the Genesis games. Both writers heavily changed Sonic to better fit the stories they were trying to tell and it worked out.
Anonymous No.542292781
>>542292585
Chaos has his own mural.
Anonymous No.542292885 >>542293094
>>542289904
You know nothing fool!
Anonymous No.542292952
>>542292772
>Tutorial how to become a good Sonic writer with memorable stories
>1: Hate classic shit
Anonymous No.542292982 >>542293534
>>542292048
>When did Maekawa start appreciating Classic Sonic?
During the development of SA1 and SA2, as said in that interview.
Anonymous No.542293004
>>542292772
>it worked out
no the fuck it didn't
Anonymous No.542293018
>>542288854
Isn't this how Reboot Archie handled the FF?
Anonymous No.542293025
Sonic Mania was the last time I fully enjoyed a Sonic game.
Anonymous No.542293094
>>542292885
>"It's Chaos! The God of Destruction!"
Anonymous No.542293193
>>542288821
No, there was nothing broken with the foundation.

>>542289139
No, Maekawa simply took the series in a more serious direction and wrote some good stories in the process.
Anonymous No.542293294
>>542291352
I don't know, I think Sonic would be pretty sad if anything happened to his friend, the President.
Anonymous No.542293467 >>542293608 >>542294175
>>542292048
Maekawa wasn't even a writer on SA1. "Dropping a tub on the head" is referring to the washtub gag from Japanese media. It's on the Egg Carrier when you spell Eggman's name wrong.
Anonymous No.542293534 >>542293819
>>542292982
He didn't say he appreciated Classic Sonic, he just said Sonic as a concept is flexible and broad enough for his ideas.
Anonymous No.542293579
Nic
Anonymous No.542293608
>>542293467
Interesting.
Anonymous No.542293682
Go Tails!
Anonymous No.542293819 >>542295018
>>542293534
That's not what it says. It says that he realized it was pointless to make crazy changes because Sonic was fine and successful as he was. He learned to appreciate that Sonic already had his own appeal.
Anonymous No.542293825 >>542296174
>>542270703
Knowing Tangle, she could do this for 16 hours straight and not be bored for a single second
Anonymous No.542293889 >>542294575
Zamn Zonic lookin kinda Zesty fr
Anonymous No.542293960 >>542294382
I am more excited for Bubsy 4D than the next Sonic game.
Anonymous No.542294005
Wtf archie bros
Anonymous No.542294175 >>542294627
>>542293467
Sure, but I said he wrote SA2>>542288171, which for a lot of anons is the "true start" of Modern/Dark Age Sonic. Did programming a tub to fall on Sonic's head make Maekawa start liking Sonic enough to allow him to write a proper Sonic?
Anonymous No.542294382 >>542294528
>>542293960
But will you actually buy the game?
Anonymous No.542294528
>>542294382
Yes, assuming its reasonably priced at like $40.
Anonymous No.542294575 >>542294674 >>542294913 >>542296308
>>542293889
But that's not Sonic, that's Mr.Needlemouse. Blaze tragically had to kill him to resurrect Sonic.

It was a Mr.Tinker situation...
Anonymous No.542294596 >>542294714
Ben Hurst's description of Sonic is accurate but that doesn't change the fact that his primary OC is usually a signal that someone doesn't understand Sonic at all.
Perhaps there is a way to write Sally that can be used to reflect Sonic's true nature. Unfortunately for her this has never happened officially aside from a handful of unlikely instances in the Pink Sally era.
Anonymous No.542294627 >>542294883
>>542294175
The interview says that during the development of SA1 he tried a lot of different ideas for how to change the character, giving the tub thing as an example, and eventually he concluded that Sonic didn't need major changes, because he was already popular as he was, even if it didn't initially appeal to him. He accepted the way Sonic was and took the opportunity to write the stories he wanted within the context of Sonic. This is what Maekawa said in interviews.
Anonymous No.542294674 >>542294821 >>542295813
>>542294575
And he only lasted for less than one issue before Sonic got his memories back. Bravo, IDW
Anonymous No.542294714
>>542294596
>that someone doesn't understand Sonic at all.
There is nothing to understand.
Anonymous No.542294821 >>542295051 >>542295109
>>542294674
cry harder Silvazenigger
Anonymous No.542294883 >>542295395
>>542294627
Maekawa's best stories have nothing to do with Sonic. The one's that do involve Sonic use him as a plot device, not a character
Anonymous No.542294913
>>542294575
Ian the Reference Man
Anonymous No.542295018 >>542295395 >>542295564
>>542293819
Even if he thought it was pointless, Maekawa still made a lot of changes to Sonic to fit the stories he was trying to tell.
Anonymous No.542295051 >>542295550
>>542294821
>ship seethe out of nowhere
Meds
Anonymous No.542295076
Sonic is an amazingly compelling character and it's sad that so many of you want to reduce him to a generic cocky teen hero
Anonymous No.542295109 >>542295550
>>542294821
Anon shipping is not everything
Anonymous No.542295395
>>542294883
That makes sense, it's not limited to Maekawa, proper Sonic stories tend to be more about the people he interacts with than Sonic himself.

>>542295018
>Maekawa still made a lot of changes to Sonic
I think it's more so that he introduced a lot of different things that exist around Sonic, rather than make changes to Sonic himself. Still though, it's weird that you use Elise as your example, it was Nakamura's idea and partially based on Sonic 1 reference material. Shadow and Maria would have been a better example of different things he introduced around Sonic, but still, that's not directly tied to Sonic, and Shadow is designed to be an opposite mirror Sonic.
Anonymous No.542295550 >>542296147
>>542295051
>>542295109
I've only ever seen Silvazefags whine about this plot point.
Anonymous No.542295564 >>542296710
>>542295018
I've noticed a lot of 2000s fans see stuff like Maekawa's interview, or that Nakamura interview for 06, and believe that the 2000s stories are perfectly adequate and a natural evolution of the Classic stories

No they aren't. Just because a dev said something in an interview doesn't mean that they actually understood the original vision for Sonic, or that that vision was translated/expanded upon naturally in the 2000s. There was a very clear pivot with SA2 towards more darker narratives and a gradual shift away from the original aesthetics and narrative elements of the series.

And I'm not even saying this because I think the 2000s stories suck or whatever. You're allowed to like them and even prefer them over the original stories. But don't try to pretend that it was all just one continuous plan of natural evolution and cohesion because it wasn't. It's ok to admit that what you like is different from what it started as
Anonymous No.542295568 >>542296694 >>542297001
The Soul of Sonic Stories is to craft an interesting story and theme and setting... and then drop Sonic the Hedgehog in the middle of that pre-existing conflict as the inciting incident, as he happens to the plot.
Anonymous No.542295584 >>542295710
Satam gets a season 3 but Sonic has all of the modern day character mandates applied.

Imagine the meltdown
Anonymous No.542295598 >>542295754
Violet No.542295710
>>542295584
Fine by me!
Sonic is the wind, baby, the wind!
Anonymous No.542295754
>>542295598
hhhhnggg Bunnie sex!
Anonymous No.542295756 >>542298740
I personally don't care whether or not Maekawa respected the classic era because his writing was superior to it
Anonymous No.542295813
>>542294674
>he only lasted for less than one issue
True, but we don't know how long it took Blaze to find "Mr. Needlemouse" or what he was doing in Blaze's dimension up until his meeting with Blaze. Would have been a cool storyline. If only Ian planned things better and Sega was more flexible. Maybe Ian or some other writer like Barnes can convince the powers that be to cover that timeframe in an annual.

Also, Ian said he intentionally had Sonic lose his memory at the end of Metal Virus to mirror Eggman losing his memory and Mr. Tinker is officially a separate character from Eggman.
Anonymous No.542295836 >>542296161 >>542296281 >>542296643
None of you realized yet that the 'Shadow the hedgehog' trademark could easily and most likely be his Paramount show teaming up with WADE WHIPPLE
Anonymous No.542295956
The DiC shows suck hedgehog penis
Anonymous No.542296024
Shadow is just a ripoff of Alita Ogord
Anonymous No.542296147
>>542295550
It's ass, be real.
Anonymous No.542296161 >>542296302
>>542295836
I fear that this general would enjoy a Wade Shadow team up show
Anonymous No.542296174
>>542293825
And that is exactly why we love her.
Anonymous No.542296281
>>542295836
no, that would be trademarked by paramount
Anonymous No.542296302
>>542296161
The most ambitious team up in history
Anonymous No.542296308 >>542297034
>>542294575
Sonic was never even called Mr Needle mouse. It was Mr. hedgehog
Anonymous No.542296468 >>542296665
CHAO!
Anonymous No.542296643
>>542295836
Paramount is smart enough to avoid that
Anonymous No.542296648
what character would al-assad main in Crossworlds?
Anonymous No.542296665
>>542296468
target practice
Anonymous No.542296694 >>542297124
>>542295568
That is not the case for the Classic games, which were focused on either Sonic or Eggman reacting to one another as the source of conflict.
Anonymous No.542296710
>>542295564
I think you're mostly talking about me here, since I bring up those interviews often, so I'll just respond. SA2 and Sonic 2006 do have a darker tone. I never said otherwise. I don't think the changes were planned since 1991, that's just ridiculous, they came up with new ideas as they went along. In that sense, it is a natural evolution, because it is literally how the series evolved over time, and how the people who were working on the series, even from its early days, expanded those ideas. Even if you think they failed, the interviews prove the developers always kept in mind the series' origins, and referenced the original material, even if they were exploring them through a more serious tone. There were changes, but they didn't come from nowhere, and it was gradual.

>It's ok to admit that what you like is different from what it started as
I have no problem saying that. I also prefer the series to have a less serious tone. But it is simply false to mischaracterize everything from that era as an extreme departure that is doing everything in its power to be antithetical to Sonic. It was a natural evolution of the series. It's not the only direction it could have evolved in, but it was a direction that made sense in the culture of that era. That is how it is, it is how it evolved. And as the interviews show, the developers weren't trying to go against the foundations of Sonic.

The one true exception to all of this is Shadow 2005. That game specifically set out to focus on and exaggerate the Dark side story aspects of SA2, which was already supposed to be an opposite to Sonic in the first place. That game specifically was setting itself up to be the opposite of Sonic. But that is one game that tried to start a new sub-franchise that separates itself from the actual Sonic series, not a representative of what the Sonic series had become at the time.
Anonymous No.542296736 >>542297219 >>542298424
The Knuckles show was good
Anonymous No.542296997 >>542297045 >>542297136 >>542297162 >>542297239 >>542297514
If this thread gets annoying tonight, it's because our fatass shadria shipper got suspended from x
Anonymous No.542297001 >>542297720
>>542295568
No, that is strictly how Maekawa writes Sonic.
Anonymous No.542297034 >>542297620
>>542296308
It was hari-nezumi ハγƒͺγƒγ‚ΊγƒŸ, translated literally by accident. But ST/Sega has kind of adopted the mistranslation. I wonder how IDW's Japanese translation will handle it.
Anonymous No.542297037 >>542298630 >>542300741
Why does sthg not like to play Sonic games?
Anonymous No.542297045
>>542296997
Again?
Anonymous No.542297124 >>542298045
>>542296694
In the classic games, it's more like Sonic goes to a new random island, and then stuff happens based on the secret lore of that setting. Eggman is there to actually start the conflict, yes... But at the same time, the real story of Sonic 2 is about TAILS. Sonic CD, it's Amy Rose, Metal Sonic, and Little Planet itself across past, present and future. In Sonic 3 & Knuckles, it's Knuckles , the Master Emerald and Angel Island as a whole.

Each time, it's basically Sonic and Eggman showing up in each setting, and they incite the plot simply by existing but the story itself centers this pre-existing conflict, theme or narrative that they just stumbled upon.
Anonymous No.542297136
>>542296997
It's already been annoying all day
Anonymous No.542297162
>>542296997
I think she will stay away from here.
Anonymous No.542297176
>>542286279
Bro thinks he’s Walter White
Anonymous No.542297219 >>542297359
>>542296736
But was it accurate to Knuckles' Japanese game characterization and themes of Japanese intent Sonic as a whole? This is important to some fans
Anonymous No.542297239
>>542296997
Shadria is cute tbqh.
Anonymous No.542297343
Nothing about the series direction from the Dark Ages is truly worth getting mad about except Silvaze and the Eggman Nega retcon.
Anonymous No.542297359
>>542297219
Some fans are retarded.
Anonymous No.542297396
Anonymous No.542297397 >>542297545 >>542297705
what the fuck is sonic outcome memories? im seeing stuff about win screens and emotes or something. is it like a sonic.exe dead by daylight or something?
Anonymous No.542297514 >>542297682 >>542297694 >>542298493
>>542296997
Krack fears Violet. That is why she won't post on the thread.
Anonymous No.542297519
Shadria fans have ruined the general with their spam which is saying a lot since theres only one or two
Anonymous No.542297545
>>542297397
>is it like a sonic.exe dead by daylight or something?
That's exactly it anon.
Anonymous No.542297620
>>542297034
Why do we call say "hedge hog", but they say "Needle Mouse"?

Needlemouse is the far cooler name, then "hedgehog". "Hedge Hog" is like a pig with shrubs or whatever... that's lame. "Needlemouse" is cool. It's like a mouse, but with NEEDLES! Spikes! A cute little creature that's also pointy, sharp, EDGY!!! The COOLER Mickey Mouse!
Anonymous No.542297682 >>542298493
>>542297514
Violet is based? wtfff
Anonymous No.542297694 >>542298493
>>542297514
True she should be brave like Sparky.
Violet No.542297705
>>542297397
Roblox Sonic.exe team survival game.
It's fun.
Anonymous No.542297720 >>542297860
>>542297001
Sonic stories are like that when Sonic is IC. Maekawa wrote relatively few stories.
Anonymous No.542297860 >>542298348
>>542297720
>Sonic stories are like that when Sonic is IC.
So SA2 Sonic is out of character gotcha
Anonymous No.542297864 >>542298243
Sonic the Harinezumi
Anonymous No.542298045 >>542298348
>>542297124
In Sonic CD, 2, 3 and Flicky's Island the only pre-existing conflict is Eggman. This very different from Modern/Dark Age Sonic, where the pre-existing conflict is created by a third party that usually is manipulating Eggman or Sonic.

The Meta era games handle conflicts like the Classic games.
Anonymous No.542298243
>>542297864
Sonikku za Hejjihoggu
Anonymous No.542298275 >>542298478
It'll be canon one day
Anonymous No.542298313
"Sonic is the wind, Amy is the breeze that follows" stfu that's not her thing
Anonymous No.542298348
>>542297860
No? Sonic is a confident action character in SA2. His story revolves around the Eggman-GUN-Shadow conflict he finds himself involved in

>>542298045
Ancient civilizations are a third party

>The Meta era games handle conflicts like the Classic games.
They're all largely the same in this specific regard. The Zeti, as badly written as they may be, serve the same narrative role as the Echidna in 3&K or Shadow/GUN in SA2. A pre-existing third party that Eggman gets involved in, and that consequently becomes relevant to Sonic
Anonymous No.542298424 >>542298510
>>542296736
The knuckles show was garbage.
Anonymous No.542298478
>>542298275
Are they engaged in pre-marital sex!?
Anonymous No.542298493 >>542304161
>>542297514
>>542297682
>>542297694
Anonymous No.542298510
>>542298424
Uh... you're wrong...
Anonymous No.542298554 >>542298879 >>542299183
Have you ever seen Violet and Krack in the same room at the same time tho
Anonymous No.542298630
>>542297037
Sonic games aren't good.
Anonymous No.542298658 >>542298790
Namefags should fuck already
Anonymous No.542298740 >>542298840 >>542298884
>>542295756
They are different types of games using story in different ways. Maekawa was promoted to scenario writer for a reason with the switch to Modern and the adoption of more involved stories. Likewise, I don't think Maekawa could "write" a story for the needs of the Classic games, as Heroes kind of shows.
Anonymous No.542298790 >>542298885 >>542299046
>>542298658
how when they're all women
Anonymous No.542298840
>>542298740
What's wrong with Heroes and what makes you think Maekawa would be incapable of that? Reminder that Iizuka wrote both Shadow 2005 and Sonic Superstars.
Anonymous No.542298879
>>542298554
I was under the impression that Violet's presence irritated Krack since it's a trans person who defies the expectation of a trans Sonic fan. She can accurately describe the japanese characterizations and has no love for IDW. Before now the other windfags were either openly conservative jp purists or benign and quiet about their own ideals.
Anonymous No.542298884
>>542298740
>Likewise, I don't think Maekawa could "write" a story for the needs of the Classic games,
Classic games didn't have writing
Anonymous No.542298885
>>542298790
Anonymous No.542298983
Natural progression died with the Dreamcast
Anonymous No.542299046 >>542299221
>>542298790
Women can have sex with each other anon. I have some vids you can check out if you want.
Anonymous No.542299097
Real!
Anonymous No.542299183 >>542299328
>>542298554
Violet and Krack can't be the same person. They both draw and have completely different artstyles. Krack would never make up an entire satam AU just to create a larp as a second person.
Anonymous No.542299195 >>542302049
SA2 should have been the last Sonic game.
Anonymous No.542299221 >>542299478
>>542299046
of what use would they be since they were clearly ai generated
Anonymous No.542299328 >>542299405 >>542299532 >>542299541
>>542299183
One person can draw in multiple styles anon. Your faulty assertion makes this even more suspicious...
Anonymous No.542299339 >>542299630
Happy boy
Anonymous No.542299405
>>542299328
>One person can draw in multiple styles anon.
I thought you were replying to the post about Maekawa for a moment
Anonymous No.542299478 >>542299606
>>542299221
lesbian sex is real you nutcase
Anonymous No.542299532
>>542299328
>One person can draw in multiple styles anon.
Look at how uniform both of their art styles are. I think it would be difficult for either of them to hide.
Anonymous No.542299541
>>542299328
>Violet is a character in the Tekken series that made his debut in Tekken 4 and later returned for Tekken Tag Tournament 2. He is the alter ego of Lee Chaolan, created as a disguise in order to enter the fourth King of Iron Fist Tournament without being found out by the Mishima Zaibatsu.
>both like shadaria
>both are friends of zealousfox
hmm
Anonymous No.542299606
>>542299478
no it isnt
Anonymous No.542299630 >>542299745
>>542299339
Yay!
Anonymous No.542299697 >>542299818 >>542299917 >>542299967 >>542300001 >>542304325
What do women find so appealing about this franchise?
Anonymous No.542299745 >>542300612
>>542299630
I love his smile
Anonymous No.542299801 >>542299903
You guys can't just assume all windfags are one person
Anonymous No.542299803 >>542300065
BLAZE!
Anonymous No.542299818
>>542299697
Shadow is hot
Anonymous No.542299903 >>542300275
>>542299801
You all act the same
Anonymous No.542299917 >>542300053
>>542299697
It's fun
Anonymous No.542299967 >>542300791
>>542299697
What do (you) find so appealing about this franchise?
Anonymous No.542299989
Sonic should be rebooted as 100% japanese
Anonymous No.542300001 >>542300196
>>542299697
cute looking characters for ship slop. I tell you something. I have seen a simpson shipper
Anonymous No.542300040
go to bed imakuni
Anonymous No.542300053 >>542300194
>>542299917
It's fun because?
Anonymous No.542300065 >>542300476
>>542299803
Blaze is a long-haired cat. That's why she has to pull her hair back and why her wrist and ankle cuffs poof out from under her clothes.
Anonymous No.542300194 >>542300351 >>542304478
>>542300053
>dumb moid who keeps trying to find an opening
It's fun
kys
Anonymous No.542300196 >>542300268
>>542300001
>a simpson shipper
for what purpose
Anonymous No.542300268 >>542300639
>>542300196
she was shipping bart's sister x bart's bully
Anonymous No.542300275
>>542299903
Nuh uh proove it
Anonymous No.542300285
Sonic is fun?
Anonymous No.542300351
>>542300194
>unable to argue with emotionality

wow we really do have women here
Anonymous No.542300476
>>542300065
That signals her "restraint" and adherence to duty. And Sonic helps her to feel like she ought to let all that floof out for the world to see
Anonymous No.542300486 >>542300663 >>542300680
Sonic should appeal to me specifically fuck all of you
Anonymous No.542300612
>>542299745
Me too <3
Anonymous No.542300639
>>542300268
well that's better than incest at least
Anonymous No.542300663
>>542300486
This but me
Anonymous No.542300680
>>542300486
and what do you want?
Anonymous No.542300741 >>542301026
>>542297037
We're in the /v/ CrossWorlds threads
Anonymous No.542300742
>>542253074 (OP)
Anonymous No.542300791 >>542300923
>>542299967
I don't find it appealing.
Anonymous No.542300923
>>542300791
I do
Anonymous No.542301026 >>542301325 >>542301389
>>542300741
Wow you just snuck away to play games with someone else. I thought we were friends /sthg/ :^(
Anonymous No.542301029
>>542255212
>Waaaaaah characters have to be static forever and if they grow or change logically and in any significant fashion it's ooc
Anonymous No.542301060 >>542301283
what is a windfag like if all windfags are the same
Anonymous No.542301140
IF THIS BATTLESHIP
Anonymous No.542301197
Anonymous No.542301283 >>542301370 >>542301479
>>542301060
A "windfag" is a person that appreciates Sonic's Japanese characterization. It can also mean fans of Dark Age Sonic specifically, though some of them like JP Classic as well. Basically they like anything Japanese from Sonic 1 to Black Knight
Anonymous No.542301325
>>542301026
Anonymous No.542301370 >>542301739 >>542302006
>>542301283
that doesn't seem so bad, in fact that seems preferable. what's wrong with being a windfag then?
Anonymous No.542301389
>>542301026
Hey I asked in here several times and no one responded
Anonymous No.542301449
Robotnik is westshit
Anonymous No.542301461
Anonymous No.542301479 >>542301583
>>542301283
>Japanese people don't even like their Sonic but they hold it as a gold standard

so they are stupid?
Anonymous No.542301583 >>542301872
>>542301479
I dunno, they never supported a guy who tried a coup against their governement, so I thinl they're not THAT stupid.
Anonymous No.542301739
>>542301370
Somme of them are rather agressive to things being OOC.
Anonymous No.542301872 >>542302004
>>542301583
Obama?
Anonymous No.542302004
>>542301872
How nice of you to set up the standard for stupidity.
Anonymous No.542302006 >>542302351 >>542302696
>>542301370
They're annoying, hate all other versions of Sonic including even JP Classic among the extremists, have this pretentious view that the Dark Age stories were unfairly criticized for being too high concept, have a fetishized vision of Japanese culture, have a complete disregard for gameplay and only care about stories, and actively ignore the inconsistencies and plot holes present in the 2000s games
Anonymous No.542302049 >>542302128
>>542299195
It was made with that in mind since the Dreamcast was dying.
Anonymous No.542302128
>>542302049
And that is exactly why it will never be surpassed
Anonymous No.542302156 >>542302263
give me your thoughts on my favorite irrelevant character please
Anonymous No.542302263 >>542302408
>>542302156
why? they are irrelevant.
Anonymous No.542302351 >>542302791
>>542302006
I consider myself a windfag and the only thing that apply to me here are
>view that the Dark Age stories were unfairly criticized
>doesn't care about plot holes
I don't think most of those things you said apply to most windfags either

>including even JP Classic among the extremists
I've never even seen this at all, unless you mean the meta era Classic stuff
Anonymous No.542302408
>>542302263
Thank you
Anonymous No.542302696 >>542302817 >>542302971
>>542302006
You're mixing together windfags, Japanese purists, Adventure fans, Maekawa fans, meta era haters, and a bunch of other things. Those are all different groups.
Anonymous No.542302791 >>542303501
>>542302351
Windgfags have close to no self awareness. They criticize other Sonic media for being ooc when the games they like are also inconsistent in tone, character portrayal and continuity

>I've never even seen this at all, unless you mean the meta era Classic stuff
A lot of them either have a complete disregard for Classic Sonic because they associate it with their made up journalist cabal or try to retroactively shoehorn their wind bullshit onto Classic as a way to claim those games
Anonymous No.542302817
>>542302696
No they aren't
Anonymous No.542302838
Windfags did nothing wrong
Anonymous No.542302971
>>542302696
They all have significant overlap though
Anonymous No.542303464 >>542303564
The biggest benefit of having windfags around is that they abuse shipfags mercilessly
Anonymous No.542303501
>>542302791
Clearly those people don't care about tone and continuity as much as characterization. And the inconsistencies in characterization in the games before 2009 (or even in the Japanese versions of most of the later games) are very minor compared to the OOC characterizations windfags usually criticize. You can't tell me that the Adventure games having a different tone is somehow the same thing as Prime or IDW making Sonic into a completely different character.

>A lot of them either have a complete disregard for Classic Sonic
Again, I've never seen this.

>made up journalist cabal
All this tells me is that you haven't read the interviews and journalist articles from the time. There were efforts to shit on Sonic after the Dreamcast failed, and they didn't even come from the same place. The series was receiving a lot of hate and attacks at the time due to SEGA's failure and journalists played into that.

>retroactively shoehorn their wind bullshit onto Classic
The only way to make sense of this statement is to assume you take the wind stuff literally. "Wind" is primarily just a symbolism to describe Sonic's character, regardless of when they started to use the literal word "wind" or when they started to give Sonic wind-based abilities. Years ago people here used to say Sonic is a "paragon" to express the same concept, but I prefer "wind" since it's based on something from actual Sonic media. Regardless, Sonic had the "wind" characterization since Sonic 1, even if the comparison wasn't made until later. You're not supposed to take it literally like that.
Anonymous No.542303564
>>542303464
But they are equally as annoying
Anonymous No.542303741 >>542303791 >>542304236
would it fucking kill you to be more concise
Anonymous No.542303791 >>542304082
>>542303741
is the wind concise
Anonymous No.542303874 >>542303940
echidna cyborgs when?
Anonymous No.542303940
>>542303874
Maybe if a certain shitty ds game had a sequel
Anonymous No.542304082
>>542303791
Anonymous No.542304161
>>542298493
No one in this thread understands this reference.
Anonymous No.542304236 >>542304401
>>542303741
Windfags don't like when Sonic is extremely OOC.

Sonic is the wind. This is not to be taken literally, it's just a concise way to describe Sonic's characterization and story role from 1991.

Journalists did indeed use to shit on Sonic to an exaggerated degree regularly in the 2000s because that's what got attention at the time for a variety of reasons that were in some valid in some cases but not in others.

Is that concise enough for you?
Anonymous No.542304325
>>542299697
it's about furry creatures wtf do you think?
Anonymous No.542304401 >>542304630
>>542304236
>it's just a concise way to describe Sonic's characterization and story role from 1991.
that's not true though
Anonymous No.542304456 >>542304792
Sex with Sonic characters?
Anonymous No.542304478
>>542300194
calm your literal tits it was just a question.
Anonymous No.542304630 >>542304795
>>542304401
It is. Sonic is similar to a force of nature. He is free and unstoppable. He's always exploring different places and going on new adventures. He improves the lives of the people who surround him by bringing them an adventure. This is what Sonic was always like since day 1, and it's exactly what windfags mean when they say "Sonic is like the wind".
Anonymous No.542304792
>>542304456
mah nigga
Anonymous No.542304795 >>542304843
>>542304630
>It is.
no it isn't
Anonymous No.542304843 >>542304935
>>542304795
What a well thought out response.
Anonymous No.542304935 >>542305103 >>542305235
>>542304843
i don't argue with idiots
Anonymous No.542305009 >>542305253 >>542305548
New thread?
Anonymous No.542305103 >>542305240
>>542304935
Then why do you talk like one?
Anonymous No.542305209
Anyone have the comic of knuckles going β€œoh I get it now, there’s Africans, black people, and NIGGERS”
Anonymous No.542305235
>>542304935
What do you think Sonic's Japanese characterization from 1991 is, then?
Anonymous No.542305240
>>542305103
Anonymous No.542305253
>>542305009
/sthg/ is over.
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Anonymous No.542305548
>>542305009
>>542301442
>>542301442
>>542301442
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Anonymous No.542305560
Shadally