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>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?
HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5, and Xbox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots, and squids to spread Managed Democracy. Players wage war on a number of contested planets, each with a different environment, completing as many objectives as possible within a procedurally generated area while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful operations a planet can be completely liberated, and the player base must cooperate to try to liberate the entire galaxy by focusing and combining their efforts as much as possible.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/
https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt

>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?
Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/

>LOBBY HOSTING
https://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png
>MODDING
https://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png

>INFORMATION RESOURCES
https://helldivers.wiki.gg/
https://helldiverscompanion.com/
https://democracy-hub.net
https://helldive.live

>MAJOR NEWS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUC24yAP7So
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJi8VsvnkoE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L-UQQIFQhw

>LATEST PATCHES
Sep 02 1.004.000 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516345493302805199
Sep 04 1.004.001 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516346126609155527

What am I if I don't think Helldivers 2 is the Dark Souls of shooters but also miss the hectic frantic-ness of release enemy spawns? Bots especially.

>>542314824 (OP)
DO NOT reply to shills
DO tell them to buy an ad

>>542314824 (OP)
do nerf niggers really?

>>542314868
remember when you got to Last Stand and use that Auto-9 on the floor when subjected to not quite lethal damage and get revived by yourself or a friend

is the airburst rocket launcher any good against roaches if you hit them in the belly? i see people say the napalm is if u do that

>>542315295
in cluster mode, maybe...

Arrow Head: I would like more multi barrel secondary weapons:
>One (1) six shooter revolver with a barrel on the top and bottom. Preferably with an EWK
>One (1) double barrel, double magazine fed pistol. Preferably either two colt M1911 or two styre M1912 welded together.
Thank you.

>join literally any SOS beacon during burger hours
>you have been kicked from the game
NIGGER IF YOU GONNA PLAY WITH YOUR FRIENDS, FUCKING MAKE IT INVITE-ONLY

>>542315295
Honestly in retrospect they really should have made dragon roach ap3 across the body so airburst would be the right counter for them. Would be cool too using HMG to AA them down more effeciently. Maybe even nerf the aids durable health they have.

>>542316165
I was thinking the same thing earlier. Have we had acid rain on any of the gloomy roach planets yet?

>>542316149
Doesn't disable the beacon.
Beacon overrides this and they will never fix this shit.

>take AC vs squids
>win

>>542316165
idk about ap3 but they should be less tanky for how insanely lethal they are. also make shooting the wings matter.

>>542315702
what about a centerfire Hell LeMat where you wrap a Senator with possibly some kind of meme status cartridge around and overtop of a single Bushwhacker barrel in exchange for piggish (for sidearm) base ergo

>>542316296
Don't think so, but it'd basically be the same TTK as a bile titan (bit longer because the wings unironically get in the way and make it harder to kill)

>>542316426
The last thing he sees before going back in the basement for Surstromming Correction.

Can someone who isn't me who does not wish for the burden of command host a lobby?

>squids
>Emancipator
>MG sentry
>Rocket Sentry
>Orbital laser
Works every time

kicked for reverse smiley in chat that was supposed to be frowny with most kills on an absolutely pear shaped kill shit mission with casualties

>>542316550
a quick stun round to the gut and he'll find himself tied to a familiar chair, balls wrapped in cold copper wire, and smelling an all too known aroma.

>Friend is on
>Don't want to play with him cause he loves fighting the illuminate
I want to play with randoms..

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242743751306/
D10, lobby decides
pub aids give me grief, discorders make my hair grey

>>542318831
Full?

>>542318831
FVLL

> Dive on squids
> Fleshmob. Kill it with eruptor.
> Oh, there's another one behind it. Drop 500kg.
> Doesn't kill it. It kills me. Now I lost my Stalwart
> Np, I'll just get it back. Drop near fleshmob, kill it.
> wth there's 3 more, warping through a building. Hit them with ultimatum.
> 2 die, other kills me as it warps back through a building to get me.
> OK, 3rd times a charm. They've got to all be gone now.
> Turn corner. There are 3 more milling around.
> Give up and run in different direction, then quit level b/c this sucks. There must have been 10 in just that area.
Getting caught out by fleshmobs on open ground is one thing. That's a skill issue. Fleshmobs teleporting through bulidings, scaling walls to give you the smackdown is pure BS.
I gave it a shot again and leaving squids to other divers for rest of MO.

>>542316387
>never heard of this before
>look it up
>learn about it, and a game it’s apparently featured in
Nice on both accounts. Neither are my cup of tea but I can appreciate it. A survival gun but a revolver seems interesting.

>>542314824 (OP)
The unfortunate truth is that the coyote is OP.
>Fire effect
>medium pen
>damage only 5 lower than the baseline liberator
>same mag size as the baseline liberator

By AH's own reasoning, this should never have happened. Pick two of those effects.

>>542319554
Okay, I choose to keep the med pen and fire status, while having the damage go up to 125 with a mag size of 60

>>542319429
>Swarm of illuminate running in
>jump over to a platform to fire down at them with my MG
>fleshmob clips through the platform at street level, knocking me of onto the ground an stunlocking me to death.

Whoever decided fleshmobs were good game design need to be fired and made homeless NOW.

>>542319554
maybe we shouldn't have autistic balance and fix more of the meta problems with the game that aren't just autistic damage numbers.

Like it's really telling when another studio makes a weapon that they feel is fun to use, and everyone else agrees is fun to use too.

>>542319554
Coyote is proof that Alexus gets it wrong both ways.

>>542319746
Buffchad... I kneel...

>>542319554
Why not buff up everything else so it feels on par with the Coyote in their own way?

Initiating FTL jump to: The Cum Zone

>>542320307
something something power creep
something something killing game.


While I agree power creep is bad, but the way they want to play the game where you need to use every part of your kit and have a specialist in the party for everything is retarded.

>>542320307
powercreep.

>>542316345
>eruptor
>ultimatum
>AC
>only 1 accidental

>Helldivers 2 with nothing going on uses more CPU than a late game Stellaris with multiple empires at war
Someone explain this

>>542305916
Whenever the planet that the DSS is orbiting gets liberated or gambitted by the enemy (any action that takes it out of play), the current vote is instantly called and planet with the most votes and which is also a valid target becomes the next instantaneous destination. In this case, Seyshel was the #2 voted planet (with Herthon as #1 but not valid as it was already liberated), so it goes there by default.

Zea Rugosia only becomes a valid voting target when it's actually available to liberate, so it always takes at least one additional voting cycle to send the DSS to newly unlocked planets.

TAKE THE BEACH

>>542320307
because ALEXUS KRAVCHENKO IS A NIGGER LOOK LOOK HE'S A NIGGER A SERBIAN NIGGER THERE'S A SERBIGGER OFF THE PORT BOW ME HEARTIES

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242744860026/76561198048059165

Squigger genocide.

>Playing bugs and bots all day with randoms
>Feel fine other than dry eyes
>Play ONE(1) game of illuminates with friend (after taking a 2 hour break outside feeling fully restored)
>Feel drained & want to go to bed
I would pay money to have this faction removed from the game.

>>542321124
No, HOD is active so Zea is exactly where it belongs, especially since the current target is a City-class Megacity.

The Beach can keep, and everyone's just going to go there after the MO is complete anyways.

>>542314824 (OP)
I wonder what Noomanek @MarkRubMe thinks "balance" is.
apparently having one weapon standing so far above the others to make them all obsolete is "balanced" to him and wanting to make the power scale of all the weapons in a category similar with trade-offs between them isn't.

>>542320948
Evil swigger magic

>>542320307
okay every AR can wipe out all chaff in a patrol in one magazine and 80% of chaff in a drop/breach in two magazines
the game is now so fucking braindead easy that people quickly grow bored of it and leave in droves because there's nothing keep them hooked or stringing them along for that dopamine

>>542321963
Suck my balls I’ve been on the beach for months let’s get it fucking done already.
TAKE THE BEACH we can do it tonight.

>>542323130
but that's literally how ARs worked in Helldivers 1, that was the main part of their wheelhouse, being incredibly good at wiping alert capable patroling chaff from just within or just off the edge of the screen with total ammo reserves of easily half a thousand across a dozen high capacity magazines compensating for being low on the per-shot damage totem pole and often having any other especially funny gimmicks or high elite killing capacity or both

we've ALREADY BEEN HERE, THE PROBLEM IS SOLVED, THE WHEEL IS PREINVENTED, THEY JUST WANT TO USE SQROUND WHEELS TO BE HIPSTER SWIGGERS ABOUT IT WITH 'REALISM' AS AN UNCONVINCING EXCUSE

>>542322928
Stellaris is made by swedes too.

>>542323552
The blob really didn't move anyway, seems like a lot thought the same. If it can stay over 7% the beach will be liberated within the next day.

>>542324094
helldivers 1 was a very different game. go play that if you want helldivers 1 gameplay

stabbing squid with the constitution is cathartic

>>542324310
Not all evils are equally evil, but all evils are still evil. Evil swigger magic is still evil swigger magic.

>>542320948
why are black

>le sequel is le different game from le prequel of which everyone expected more of the same in le sequel, why do you want it to be more like le prequel? I don't understand, it's le sequel
What if you didn't have breakfast today?

>>542325008
I didn't have breakfast today.
checkmate retard

>>542324825
now imagine hacking them to death

>>542325298
raifu is fine.

>>542325298
Hacking fembots into slavewives

>>542315295
not specifically ABRL, but the Expendable Napalm can oneshot dragonroach if you shoot to hit all the clusters into the wings. not sure about ABRL tho.

you guys think we'll ever get another bolt action rifle?

>>542326512
The Eruptor should be single a shot bolt action instead of using mags.

>>542323552
Has it actually been months?
I've started diving there like 2 weeks back
At this point its not even about the meme or the fact that I want to capture a planet outside of an MO/event, at this point its just an autistic fixation. Please god just let it end I haven't even played any other games or even jerked off, let my autistic retarded adhd ass fucking leave ITS SO FUCCKING CLOSE PLEASE

>>542326504
>if you shoot to hit all the clusters into the wings.
I think there's just some fucky interaction between the NEAT and the dragonroach in general. You can get every cluster to hit and it won't kill it, then you can get webm related where half the clusters miss but it still dies. The NEAT can and will one shot them but I wouldn't rely on it, there's no consistency that I can find.

>>542325172
but what if you did

>>542326702
>or even jerked off
Take 5 mins and bust it out anon

>>542323130
Would like to back that up with evidence? Because when things are overpowered, player numbers rocket up. When things are nerfed, player numbers drop so low AH have said they were going to stop development.

>>542326642
The eruptor is the eruptor.
Gib gun from Quigley Down Underand the terror will cease!

>>542328086
>player numbers drop so low AH have said they were going to stop development.
When? Who? Got a link?

>>542324867
>

>>542328086
middle of september was the first 60 day buff patch. player count came back up from the interest in the new balance but eventually it bled players as hard as ever. buffs don't keep players around, content does. can you guess what caused that huge spike on december 11th? I'll give you a hint: it wasn't a buff patch

>>542316306
I mean, it makes sense for it to override that since it is an emergency beacon and it would be kinda pointless if it didn't open up the game.
The real fucking issue is that swedes, in their infinite wisdom, made it only one input different from reinforcement so if you have to respawn someone quickly you might accidentally call in the beacon which again in infinite swede wisdom can not be disabled or destroyed.

You'd think the logical solution would be to either make its input somethink like reinforcement code twice, or just brand new code so it won't be typed in by accident because it's nearly the same as the code you'll type most fucking often in the game, or at least letting you fucking cancel this shit.
And you'd think such a retarded oversight would be quickly fixed but I guess swedes either won't do it out of hubris or they genuinely think it's funny or something.

>>542327614
what would i have

>>542327912
I edge for 2+ hours or I don't do it at all
Back to diving pubs and screaming at the watchers and elevated fuckfaces

>stopped helldiving for today
>crave a dive

>>542324560
>helldivers 1 was a better game
FTFY

>>542328523
Pretty sure it was Pilestadt, giving an interview in the Discord months after the 60 Day Patch, maybe in January. He said that at the point prior to the announcement of the 6DP, they were looking at their player numbers and income and could only justify continuing development to the end of the year before moving on.

>>542328614
Because the patch didn't go far enough, and most 'buffs' has come with equal amounts of nerfs and enemies that hard counter them. Doesn't matter how much extra damage a gun gets when you have fleshmobs clipping inside buildings.

need the adjudicator
need my full power intermediate high recoil does fuck all correctly rifle

>>542324094
>>542329668
>Every single change from 1 is to make things worse
>Everything they autistically refuse to change from 1 (like team reload from your backpack only) doesn't fit at all in a open map TPS
How do they do it?
How is it possible to make the worst possible choice at every single point? They've made Helldivers 1, surely they have SOME competent people left.

>>542329475
>just lied down and went to sleep
>doing Ops in my presleep daydreams thinking it’s real
>realize this and post on /hdg/ and im gonna boot up a real Op

>>542329873
>and most 'buffs' has come with equal amounts of nerfs
this is every patch for the first 6 months of the game that contained balance changes, back in the height of "arrowhead constantly nerfs everything and never buffs". the simple fact is that was always a false narrative. arrowhead buffed and continues to buff the shit out of everything, while also nerfing enemies, yet it's never enough for some people.

>>542329668
>shared screen top down
yikes, fighting games are annoying enough being a shared screen but I got HD1 and played it and it’s not even fun. I had a blast playing HD2 on the day I got it but HD1 I was like wow this sucks where do I even go everything looks the same and I stopped. I only tried a level 15 Helldive and completed like 1 or 2 objectives and got raped so maybe I could give it another chance but who gives a fuck just play 2 unless you have a boner for the kind of top down clockwise/counterclockwise aim scheme game shit it is

>>542330356
it would help if I actually attached the image

>democratic demolition
>control group
>dust devils
what now?

>>542330663
If you already have thermite get whatever bond has the Ultimatum. Dont shoot that thing off to close to me though.

>>542330663
Two options:

1. Democratic Detonation just to gain access to the best warbond in the game

2. Control Group to unlock the Warp Pack and use it to solo farm SC to buy the rest

Aiming in Helldivers 1 feels like adjusting a LIDAR dish in HD2.

Bugs? Nothing but fuel. The solution? KILL EM ALL!
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242751911052/76561198120804312

>>542331007
>steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242751911052/76561198120804312
FVLL

>>542330663
You should get the Force of Law warbond.
The only decent thing in the warbond other than some cool looking armor is the arc dog.
That being said, I'd argue that the arc dog is the funniest stratagem they've added yet.
It's good for killing chaff and will gladly use fellow helldivers to help chain the arcs needed for that.
If I don't need my backpack slot for anything I like to bring it even if I don't need the extra firepower, simply because I enjoy its antics.

>>542330831
i listed the ones I have in order

>Download fog remover mod
>FPS noticeably better
WHY ISNT THIS AN OPTION BY DEFAULT???

>>542332251
pretty sure you can do that in the config ini

>>542332187
Consult this highly opinionated tier list then. The Good Tier warbonds have some very fun weapons (Steeled Veterans has Senator and Dominator; Freedom's Flame has the Cookout, Torcher and Inflammable armor; Chemical Agents has the Gas Grenade, Stim Pistol and Gas Dog; Truth Enforcers has the Reprimand; Borderline Justice has the Talon, Hover Pack and Deadeye). Great Tier also have very good and fun stuff but more along the lines of meta pick. Everything below those are generally stuff you grab when you don't have anything else to buy.

>>542328648
They unironically probably do that to try force the beacon or they think it's funny.

>>542333218
I mean why is this not an option in the in-game menus

>>542333597
Needs updating for Dust Devils.

d10 any
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242754132605/76561198027910192

fix the shitty performance arrowhead

>>542334915
but that's from the time of infinite stratagem ball bouncing, which they fixed in a few days
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/image/0B3zYp2O3MAUVN-oCbAXWg/

>>542334295
1/4
ded game
ded thread

>>542335059
still relevant
dogshit performance

>>542334295
2/4

>>542335141
>>542335314
I’m lurking this thread and playing Helldivers 24/7 but I can never join bc I’m on PlayStation.

>>542333597
doosk a la diabla

>>542335417
#0119-2797

>>542335417
throw your friend code out and I will add you

>the gloom is spreading to Estanu
Owari da....

ok, so fuck the meta. what are the most kino warbonds? what about the most fun?

>>542335690
servants of freedom is simultaneously meta, kino, and fun

>>542335520
>>542335595
I don’t feel like playing this minute because I was just playing all day (unless you guys really want me to) but in the future can I just put my friend code in a post and I can lobby doko that way? Is that a thing is that the play?

>>542335770
No, you'd be on the friends list of anyone who picked you up here, but it's not like steam lobby links. You'd have to be invited by someone in-game.

>>542335141
my computer isn't working or i would join D:

>>542335690
Any warbond that enables an all-X gimmick
Freedom's flame for fire
Chemical Agents for braps
Cutting Edge for lasers or arc

>>542335690
Force of Law is fun if you want to be a bastard cop

>>542334295
2/4, going in 5-10min

>>542334295
FVLL

>>542335770
Post your friendlink the next time you want to play. Some people will be more than happy to accomodate you, some people will give you a hard time.

>>542330550
filtered

dedgame
dedthread

>>542338715
No I want to point my joystick at what I want to shoot, not wind the joystick from 2 o’clock to 5 o’clock to hit something at 9 o’clock. Fuck that.

>>542335690
Servants of Freedom comes with a backpack nuke and roman death mask armor. Doesn't get much more kvno than that. Genuinely Control Group takes second place for the adreno-defib armor for the last stand stim zombie effect. Have had some good moments mowing down enemies with the last of my ammo or throwing every red at my feet kinda thing.

Fun warbond for me is Masters of Ceremony. Duck walk emote + the flag in the dress blues armor is where it's at. Being the missions morale officer is a genuinely fun bit to do even in high level pubs but is especially fun to go lowdive with it.

>>542338996
but anon.. there is full lobby rn..

I sure love when overseers randomly lock in and burst you down in under a second

>>542339748
It always happens at the worst time when they just decide to erase you from existence and place all 4 shots right at your center of gravity.
What if that’s what all enemies were like and their shots automatically hit you?

I sure love when you aim at an overseer and watch as their aim resistance kicks in and they start bobbing and weaving out of the way or your reticle.

>free 380mm barrage
>every mission I join has less than 5 reinforcements left
free me from this cocksucking hell

>doused in purple light in the middle of a heavy gunfight
>barely last second snap and kill it
>screen still purple turns out there was another right behind me
>the last bullet of my pistol makes it through right as it's about to call things in
>[Illuminate Ships Incoming]
>it's on me
>there is no purple anywhere
>turns out there was another watcher on the other side of the colony wall that didn't even make any light or have los on me
I'm ready I'm ready I'm ready to pull the trigger I'm ready I'm gonna do it I'm really gonna do it this time

>>542339021
>kvno
kuno? Dumb fuck.

>>542340765
just nape the drop spot and move on

>feel like playing torcher
>join a mission
>host is never close
>reminded that fire doesn't work if host isn't close
>can still burn yourself mind you (you don't hate sweden enough)
>no primary for the rest of the game
They had it fixed, then they broke it again.
This is the 4th time they broke fire damage, and this time around they broke stun applications as well.
And it has been like this for a month and two weeks already.
Like holy shit.

>>542340765
>the 1st watcher gets swatted in one flak round like the fucking mosquito it is
>the 2nd tanks like 5 to the face with no visible damage, taunting me as it launches its flares

>>542341313
>>reminded that fire doesn't work if host isn't close
somebody essplane

>>542341313
>host is never close
>reminded that fire doesn't work if host isn't close
>can still burn yourself mind you (you don't hate sweden enough)
>no primary for the rest of the game
wut…?

HDC: Hellmilfs demand cannons.

M-112 “divestor”
>pelican drops two SWAT-bots each with a automated sled mounted puntgun
>helldivers can brace against either shield, firing one handed weapons and or guarding the bots movement

M-84 “Maximal Suppression Vehicle”
>high rpm 8 gauge Gatling gun mounted on an FRV
>an industrial slag remover meets a maxim

SG-1207 “Breaker Industrial”
>civilian industrial cleaning shotgun repurposed for helldiving: Elmer Fudd meets m242 bushmaster
>backpack fed 8 gauge chaingun, loaded with super magnum caseless rounds with depleted uranium projectiles
>has a low recoil traditional frangible bird genociding shot load (ap2), ap3 explosive flachette, ap4 HE slug, and ap 5 hyper velocity sabot (low accuracy/recoil 60 damage railgun shot)
>ammo types increase in recoil and decrease in raw damage potential as ap and precision damage increases, culminating in the HVS round which has negligible recoil but pitifully low damage.

>>542339748
>>542340146
I was doing a side objective and I got to look back at the colony and my teammates were being chased by overseers that were jetpacking like 6-7 floors above them in the stratosphere, while still constantly shooting at them straight down.

>>542341385
shit despawns when it gets too far from the host
this includes the fire particles from your flamethrower and the fire tiles they create on the ground

>>542341689
>shit despawns when it gets too far from the host
So how are 4 players running around a huge map all battling shit? idgi what does that even mean, you’re saying there’s only “stuff” within radius of the host…? that’s not true

>>542341423
>>542341385
Torcher's damage is fire (direct) and fire(tick) with a max range of 18metres and no type of CC. The direct fire damage also has a damage drop off if the enemy isn't exactly between 6 and 8 metres of distance, which means you are dealing between 130 and 160 dps on average with the max being direct 240 dps(6-8m) when the host isn't close instead of 230-340.
But without the fire AoE there's no point to playing the torcher, since it's mainly used as an area denial weapon. The host being far away turns it into a weaker Scythe with 18m of range instead of 1000m.

>>542341385
used to be the client contributed to the calculations for various status effects, then it was discovered that the rate at which status effects were being applied was multiplied for every client in the lobby, so they disabled the client calculation sharing
now certain enemies don't get effected by status effects if they are too far from the host because there's nothing in range to do the calculations for them

behold the most chinese thing of all time

>>542342360
looks like some valorant skin

>>542334295
GGs

>>542342360
You need to be in the realm of heavenly cultivators to use that gun.

>>542342360
>doesn’t comically kill the user
0/lathe. not traditional ching, chang, nor chong

Is the railgun good on squabs?

how do you respawn without sounding mad?

>>542334295
ggs

>>542341956
local instancing of enemies, the host has his own enemies and the positions of enemies are communicated when players are close by, otherwise you're basically in your instance bubble, if you're too far away from host then the enemies and fire particles aren't communicated with host machine and therefore DoT doesn't work, sometimes as a host I see enemies instantly despawn when I die

>>542342696
if you redline it you can one-shot harvester leg joints, at 85%ish charge can one-shot stingrays, and on safemode one shot overseer heads if there's one that's really annoying you

>>542342751
beautiful

>>542342751
>martian bullfighting

Been rolling full lightning for a while. Thrower, blitzer, tower, and K9. Absolutely insane quality in caves. Great time. Wishing the HD1's Angel was released because I'd like to do a proper vehicle build.

Are there any other themed builds that you guys have enjoyed that are also very successful?

>>542344062
Lib Carbine + Machine Gun set to 900 RPM + Lib Hover Dog + MG sentries
(for squids)

I call it the ‘not enough dakka’ build
It’s not enough because I usually bring the grenade pistol and gas nades too

>throw eagle at bug crowd of maybe 12 buggoids
>newdiver wastes an orbital walking barrage at them too
>was hoping he'd use his orbs for the large nests while im eagle guy
Fuckinggg

I don't know why I was sleeping on the WASP for so long. It makes life a lot nicer when fighting squids. Kind of have to trust that the rest of the team can take care of harvesters though.

>3 more days till the game is saved
>possible warbond trailer on the same day
almost there bros...

>chaos of a city fight
>finally the chaos ends
>team mate comes up and kills me
>"Fuck you asshole"
what's crazy is he and his buddy were halfway across the map and they both died. I have genuinely no idea why he got so pissed

>>542345726
>3 more days till the game is saved

>>542346052
>rando that doesn't communicate gets mad to the point of TK because you couldn't read his mind
Many such cases

>>542346192
I'm racking my brain. He was the orange dude across the map so it's not like a random strat killed him. I cannot imagine getting that mad. We had 21 respawns because he was the retard that brough the "extra spawns" strat

>>542346307
Sometimes when you die the game assigns blame to a random diver. He's just a retard who can't think critically.

>>542346052
>>542346307
Based host dunking on solonigger, I always TK and kick soloniggers on sight

>>542346417
>Based host dunking on solonigger, I always TK and kick soloniggers on sight

>after the MO finishes we have three planets that can be encircled
>can easily clean up a few sectors
>can even encircle Haldus if we take out Afoyay Bay and Adhara
You know for a fact high command won't do it. By taking four planets we can encircle four more. It's the perfect next step while they do whatever the fuck it is with the technology we're getting now.

But they won't

>>542346565
I look like this, talk like this and smell like this.

>>542339880
Wouldn't surprise me, but the game was just bugged

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242764739600/76561199108851031
d10 whatev

>>542346735
look again its only 2 of them

>>542347026
3/4

>>542347026
Full

>>542347026
full

>>542333597
Master of ceremony has the best grenade in the game. What are you smoking?

>>542339748
How dare ranged enemies ever hit you.

>>542347625
>Bounces away like 3 times

>>542346735
Who the fuck wants to play more squibs?

>bass guitar = autocannon
>drums = rumbler
>guitar = ???
Maybe a massive laser carbine?

>>542348490
Idk what you're talking about but arc thrower

>>542347875
What?

>>542348490
Id say HMG is more bass guitar

>>542347875
I get your baiting.
But it's cool that they're threatening, but it'd be nice if they were consistent. Like oh they hit you once per volley after they lock onto you. Or they get more and more accurate.

But naw this is just a slop game where game design like that isn't necessary.

>>542348609
trying to think up weapons worthy of a ridiculously overblown power metal setting

>>542348836
I feel the same way. Dying that way just feels dumb because its complete RNG.

>>542347875
Next you're probably gonna tell me I should pick le ranged weapon, not understanding that all I'm ever going to do in this game is deliberately fight in melee 100% of the time whether it makes sense or not while (You) are pulling off your best objective janny impression. Just nerf enemy range universally.

>>542348925
Yeah, like sure it's an inevitability. But you basically have no information to read. Feels like I'm just fighting an invisible clock. Like I'd honestly consider smoke on squids if it countered them or something. Just to buy space from range units while I clean up chaff would be cool.

Lotta missing potential in this game sometimes.

So we have an assault rifle that shoots fire
We have an assault rifle that shoots arc
When do we get an assault rifle that shoots gas?

>>542349306
PA
RA
GON

>>542349306
When they give us an ammo type attachment warbond.

>>542349306
>We have an assault rifle that shoots arc
no we don't.
>but the paci
not arcs, just a stun round

I want an actual arc rifle. blitzer style but single target with more limited chaining than the arc thrower.
also the arc thrower should get more chains

Nothing of value would be lost if
>player weapons range got reduced to 150-200m - far enough for skillshots and ads to matter but not enough for gear checks
>reinforce and resupply stratagems were only available in the vicinity of the host
>traitor barrage or barrier enemies got triggered for being distant from the host for a prolonged time

>>542349828
>traitor barrage or barrier enemies got triggered for being distant from the host
holy based

Man the jump pack is pretty nice for just doing objectives and then getting the fuck out. Maybe I've been sleeping on this thing.

I thought the gas guns did corrosive damage against bots for some reason
Give us an acid thrower

News about Justice soon!

>>542349474
>Pacifier is already forgotten

killing swedish "people" should be legal.
kind of like how killing insects isn't against the law.
no, I am not brown or jewish. i love being white and i love white people. but the swedish are not people.

>>542349828
I agree with the first point
while a little sniping would be fine I often end up in lobbies that do nothing else which betrays our theme of being on assorted batshit wild cartoon villain weaponry art imo
I would try conventional nerfs first though, also melee buffs

Bucket of water stratagem you can combine with an arc gun to kill a huge crowd

>>542349947
they do, the gas DOT just breaks if you're too far away from the host (I think around 100 meters, but I'm not certain)
and the steriliser's direct spray does nearly nothing by itself (unlike the flamethrowers whose direct gout of flame does a lot of damage) and is mostly just for applying the gas effect which is less damaging than flames but still enough to kill light chaff in one application

542339748
542348836
542348925
542349214
Trans btw, not sure if that matters.

>>542350573
What?

it breaks my immmersion and realism that the ship negress does not salute back

what weapons benefit the most from peak physique and unflinching

I hope there is a Hellenic (Grecco-Roman for you mongs) style warbond one day, with Roman Numerals and motif's, something the game should have more of anyways. A nod to some of the great Tyrants of the old world and how it was conquered by the invention of democracy. A white helm with a chiseled Apollo-esque face with the gold or green leaves as a crown. Lots you could do with the idea.

>don't worry goys we heard you and will focus on improving performance as soon as we're back from our 12 weeks vacation
>come back
>jk actually we'll focus on releasing new content asap lmao
>new content is a broken shitty mess and makes performance even worse
>umm actually we're gonna take the new content back and focus on improving performance haha
>radio silence for a month
Is there a gas leak at Arrowhead?

>>542350440
Orbital water balloon

>>542350942
>peak physique
Anything with shit ergos like the Dominator or HMG
>unflinching
Quasar, LC and Scythe maybe? I haven't used it much honestly

>>542351446
They could start with obvious shit like not having every model loaded on every diver and only showing one.

>>542350942
none benefit all that much
for nearly all guns engineer + fortified + siege ready are the right choices to max out your dps

>>542351446
>Is there a gas leak at Arrowhead?
just the authentic surströmming aroma

>>542350942
>peak physique
Primaries don't get much unless it's something like the eruptor. The best guns for it are the bigger support weapons. Using the autocannon with peak physique is a night and day difference. It's also a lot easier aiming something like EATs.

>>542345726
>3 more days till the game is saved
do /hdg/tards really?

>>542350318
>>542349474
>>but the paci
>not arcs, just a stun round

>>542352525
>>not arcs, just a stun round
And arc is known for doing what? Thats like saying the coyote isnt a fire gun, it just sets things on fire.

>>542352652
>And arc is known for doing what?
shooting fucking lightning

>>542352669
And that lightning does what? Come on, you can do it.

>>542349474
I want a continuous fire arc weapon. You hold down the trigger and it acts like the tf2 medic gun, but deals arc damage.

Oh no! The planet nobody plays on!

>>542352860
Why do they keep making us defend this shithole this MO doesn’t even have anything to do with the gloom storyline

>>542352826
Arc-Thower should do that.

>>542352860
That shit is so predictable, it's embarassing by now.

>>542351637
Primaries that get shit ergo after you put all the recoil reducing attachments like the adjudicator.
Also almost all support weapons benefit from it.

>>542349828
>call in the car
>send it

>>542352724
Arc between units with electricity? This is like saying the stun grenade is an arc grenade, despite the fact that the actual arc grenade is right there.

>>542352724
>all arc weapons stun therefore all weapons that stun are arc weapons
https://youtu.be/V9psFtbw4Gg?si=kUjfYAS9pWUCIx8Q&t=12

>>542342737
>abandon mission
>go to a nice comfy classic map where any SEAFtards I find will be decorative corpses

>>542352926
It's to distract and slow down the MO and make it more of a "nail biter." Right now we're slated to liberate Zea Rugosia well ahead of schedule, particularly because HOD is active. So Joel throws an occasional low-level attack at Hellmire to force people to stop doing the MO and go defend the outpost.

It's so over I'm addicted to the jetpack now. Just running into objectives, blowing them up then flying away. This will probably get boring fast though.

>>542355025
I enjoy it but don't care for spending a whole slot on a backpack stratagem unless it's a raw dps multiplier like portable hellbomb, guard dog, or the lame supply faggot cheater glitch pack (spits).

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242773663054/76561198120804312
Bots. Be sure to bring a good loadout to avoid picrel

>>542355301
im ready

>>542355301
>still 1/4
Holy dead game
>>542355554
Where are (you) anon?

>>542356096
Give me a second to splay out my balls in a comfy position

>>542355242
In a really weird way, mobility is dps on illuminate. The game has a habit of spawning so many voteless that it forces other enemies to despawn. So if you ignore your problems hard enough, they just go away. I like laying down on rooftops during flag raising and watching harvesters fade in and out of existence.

>>542355301
3/4

>>542355301
JOIN NOW.

>>542349828
150-200 is still pretty far. Id honestly say 100 meters but enemy effective range also gets reduced to 50 meters.

>>542350942
Autocannon.
Drum mag guns.
HMG.

>Unflinching
Commando, railgun, epoch.
Potentially any explosives.
(Mines and radar boost actually benefit a lot from the scout aspect of the armor.)

>>542354913
its totally non-defensible, hivelord on a craggy, rocky corridor map, no open spaces, no caves, its fucking impossible the fucker just spawns and kills you when you cant even see him

>>542347026
ggz tards, I wish that I could turn back time.
https://files.catbox.moe/k2vydb.mp4

>>542354913
>Hey do you think they enjoy repeatedly defending hellmire?
>No?
>Yeah lol send another worm there

HOLY FUCKING SHIT BUFF THE FUCKING HMG NOW

>>542360487
OK!
+ recoil
+ loudness

>>542360487
currently there's literally no reason to use the HMG when the LC exists

>>542357983
>>542358410
Nice AA TK-kun

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242781732337/76561198023232654

bugs lobby

>take peak physique
>bots also seem to get peak physique at the same time, turret bots suddenly shooting again, barrage tanks shooting like on release, heavy devs and hulks now landing shots within half a second
Conicidence or swede code?

>>542330663
master of ceremonies, unironically
it's a sleeper warbond with good variety that "people" (see: niggers) don't like exclusively because it has a diligence sidegrade in it
the booster will help you get your ship upgraded, the grenades are peak, the drip is immaculate, and you get a pirate sword

>>542362393
2/4

>>542362393
3/4

>>542362393
3/4

>>542362393
3/4

>counter sniper can't 1tap overseer heads
god why are overseers so awful

>>542362393
full

>>542362393
FVLL

>>542362393
full

>>542363469
If they ever make the amr not feel like you're fighting with your sibling over the controls, at the same time as playing the game, it'll feel so good to bring to squids.

>>542362716
We should fight hamster planet would be awesome blowing those 2 up

>>542363718
Use the PP armor or find your AMR at PoEs (they have higher ergonomics)

>>542363867
Even with pp it has such an annoying sway. I do want to try finding one on map with pp at some point to compare.

i wish anime girls were real

>>542363716
>>542363821
Fuck

>>542363469
>almost every bullet hits
>feels like almost half a mag is gone
>flyer starts flying around just out of reach enough that you're still hitting him but its all going into the funny leg armor now
>ends up feeling like it takes a whole mag or more just to kill one
You can say this one is skill issue, I'll admit it but holy FUCK

i wish aim resistance weren't real

>>542345726
>Only just now taking a look at Chargers footsteps being dead silent when everyone has known about it since forever.
Baffling that some 'people' will still give any ounce of trust to AH when they never fix basic shit like this unless these swedes are threatened with nuclear annihilation

>ragdolled inside a chargers corpse
>can't get out
>bugs noclip through it and 1 tap me
nice game dude!

>>542364460
Phasing through enemies would be extremely unrealistic.

>>542364460
>>542364832
its funny how they made a feature specifically to push you up if you're underneath the ground yet don't have any detection for if you're stuck in an enemy corpse

>>542364460
>diver holds the line against bot ships
>one blows up and lands on him
>forever stuck
>have to extract without the hero
>leave him to be eaten alive by robots and turned into goo
It ain't fair

>>542365265
robots eat people?! is there any end to their viciousness!!?

d10 buggos
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242786548872/76561198027910192

>>542365371
They specifically gave themselves a pleasure upgrade in their hard drive just so they can enjoy eating children more
Its sick and real

>>542365859
FVLL

>>542339748
>>542348836
>>542348925
>>542349214

>>542362393
GGs

>>542362597
I would not be in the least bit surprised. There is a precedent for some player-based passives affecting enemies, I just can't remember what they were.

>>542363469
take the deadeye or a map-found AMR instead

coyote shreds oversaars so fast it isn't even funny, great against voteless too. no reason to bring anything else

>>542367914
the only real conversation is if you take seige ready armor to support the coyote, or if you take twigsnapper to get the ergo bonus for your support weapon like the MG43, or I guess take a recoil reducing armor and get some more grenades with it too.

>>542367914
Hopefully it gets nerfed so other ARs can be taken as well.

>>542367914
In my opinion Coyote feels so strong because it is EXACTLY what they nerfed earlier:
>Cookout sets things on fire if even a single pellet hits, nerfed because setting entire patrols on fire with couple of shots was too strong
>Coyote sets things on fire even if a single pellet hits, setting entire patrols on fire with couple of shots

>>542368185
what's the point of fishing when everybody in the pond can tell it's bait

>guy joins in heavy armor and chooses 3 reds + supply pack

>gets over 600 kills doubling the next person

I kneel.

>TWENTY SECOND reposition time for super destroyer

lol, lmao

>>542368112
>twigsnapper
predator armor exists you weak bitch

>>542360702
To be fair hmg has substantially higher dps.

>>542368354
This.
Somehow everyone bitches about everything but this. I'm willing to bet they're going to nerf this, and claim they're buffing coyote.

>>542368836
>3 reds
what were they?

>>542345726
It's amazing how much bs is present even in this single post.
>promises roadmap
>no roadmap
>october-ish
>could be any time this is so fucking non-committal
>begin to chip away at
>so none of the listed issues will be fixed in this patch
>promises less silence
>goes completely silent other than a tech blog about an issue the community figured out ages ago
>basically state in corpospeak that they can't fix performance
>still have to jerk themselves off that they did so much work and delivered so much content and got so many new players
>all of them fucking left because of how bad the game was and they had to disable half their new shit
Fucking pathetic.

>>542369839
They're probably doing this because Sony is breathing down their neck.

>Gonna lose hellmire because people are sick of it after like an unironic 7 attacks
>Right before the digbugs come back
How are these swedes this malicious?

>>542369995
Fucking imagine being Sony, seeing this little game you thought was gonna be nothing be a massive MASSIVE breakout hit. Like, you fucked up buying Destiny 2 and it's outperforming that giant bloated turd. Everything else you do is failing but this tiny little fucking beacon of gud game has popped up and everyone loves it. You cock it all up with your corporate account mandate bullshit but eventually you back off after having your autismo moment.

And then you watch as these fucking swedes slowly destroy every last bit of goodwill they had, they run the game into the ground, and all you can do is sit there and watch because you don't own them. If you pull funding you lose the one good thing you have going. So you have NO power as Alexus fucks your entire company over and Joel sits there jerking himself off to the idea of the players having a bad time.

>>542370037
they are incapable of reading the room
>ok the community got tired of our unfinished and buggy new content
>"should we have those systems where the content is active get "recaptured", so there's an in-universe reason for the content being unavailable while we work on fixing it?"
>hell no lol, leave 80% of it active even though it's clearly unfinished, and then vault it when we reintroduce the fixed subfaction to punish the players for not wanting to fight on the same fire tornado planet for the 6th time in a row, so much so that they'd rather fight squids!
>"great idea jorgen sprogren!"

>niggers unironically bringing light pen AR to predator bug
what the fuck were they thinking???

>>542370721
can you name a single predditor requiring ap3?

>>542370037
We're gonna lose the MO AND Hellmire. This is Joel's fault. He fucked the galactic war so badly by making everything as painful as possible and making the liberation system broken as fuck. The majority of the players don't give a shit anymore because he's made it very clear things only happen when he wants them to happen and if he wants us to lose, we will lose.

Yet another thing these fucking retards ruined about their own game. Only svedkan retardation could have fucked up the fervor and excitement people had about the galactic war when the game launched. People were so fucking stoked, there was TONS of discussion about which planet to go for, media campaigns were being made, etc.

Joel looked at all that with disgust and proceeded to beat it out of the playerbase. It's HIS war you will do NOTHING without his permission!

>>542370781
It's not about killing them, it's about the game shitting out 9 billions of them at once they are all going straight to (You). The pump shotguns can stagger lock them in place, making dealing with them much less frustrating.

Next patch
>literally nothing
or
>game breaking bullshit
Call it friendo

>>542371094
>Call it friendo
why AH adds literally nothing in their patch and still manage to break their game

>>542342830
>sometimes as a host I see enemies instantly despawn when I die
yeah…

>>542345352
>Kind of have to trust that the rest of the team can take care of harvesters though.
Thermite
Ultimatum
medpen primary
etc.

>>542365859
ggs
fuck swigger niggers my game glitched out on loading again

>>542371094
Both. They will re-enable the diggers with zero fixes. They will have disabled the lock-on for their rupture attack and nothing else will have changed.

This will proceed to cause all bugs to phase through terrain and attempt to burrow, while also adopting the lock-on behavior that was disabled on the warriors. The bot crashes get worse where nobody can play them, and the squids stop spawning and are replaced by digger bugs somehow. You also have 10fps in the ship.

>>542346417
Why the /hdg/ hate for soloniggers? I love when I’m doing the mission and I have a pubbie out hitting POIs or SEAFs/LIDAR and shit. No?

>>542365859
ggs leafers

>>542371094
>next patch
>improved Ukrainian translations
>fixed missing lights inside super destroyer's lobby
>slightly improved liberator concussive texture
>fixed sound bug which happened using arc thrower with 10e-10 probability
>unoptimized game performance
>introduced a game breaking bug where you have to deal stratagems 3 times before game registers the call action

>>542372121
Imo it's because it splits the action up, and forces you to run jack of all trades loadouts. You either have to deal with all the shit -1 or 2 people, or you have a snoozefest while they're getting overrun. And if you did specialize then gooooood luck.

>>542349907
IMO the jump pack is a stupid meme compared to the warp pack if for no other reason than you can jump like every 30 seconds but you can warp constantly, has like a 3 second cooldown between warps and you can even emergency warp at the cost of being lit on fire or whatever that thing fucks, fuck the jump

>>542372059
>They will re-enable the diggers with zero fixes. They will have disabled the lock-on for their rupture attack and nothing else will have changed.
that's literally the only fix they needed tho

>>542365859
GGs

>>542372121
apart from the 7 or 8 ppl who participate in hdg lobbies, nobody here actually plays the game and they have the shittiest opinions imaginable

>>542364460
secret tech is if you have an explosive to blast yourself out, the most convenient of these are the explosive primaries like xbow or plas-punisher, just stim and pop a round next to you and blow yourself out of the hole or whatever you’re stuck in, can flip over cars too, try it (this should be in the Training Manual tips on drop-in)

>>542368836
me but I’m wearing light armor so I can run around faster and get even more kills than a measly 600

>>542369564
>500
>Laser
>Nape
and the supply pack is fueling the Ultimatum of course (use that if you want to wipe a whole squid drop/pack of overseers cuz /hdg/ seems to have a problem with overseers, wer striders as well, just nuke em with the Ultimatium)

>>542370721
Predators is the EXACT/perfect situation to bring a light pen AR thoughbeitso….. sometimes I just bring a fucking stalwart.

>>542372305
I make My loadout always under the assumption that I’m gonna be alone and no one will respond to this SOS if I throw it. Do you guys really rely on pubbies to carry you and kick them if they don’t act as your walking guard dogs?

The bugs want our anime girls

>do mission with squad of 3
>one solonigger does basically all side obj alone
>mission done 20 minutes faster with no downsides except for being one man short
There is literally no reason to not have one solonigger.

>>542372385
>muh diggers
I’ll be the host every time I’m not a pussy diggers and dragons and the enemies were never the issue on the hive worlds, it’s the glitchy cave bullshit where whether Strats work or not seems random even with an open sky view ceiling above you. If you’re scared of any enemies in this game bring a fucking coyote and shut up.

>>542373327
you are under the false assumption that most solofags are any good at all and aren't just going to die and bitch in chat. Everyone thinks they're way better than they actually are, and everyone makes every excuse to not play with the team.

>>542345352
While not recommended, if shit hits the fan, shoot the harvesters with the wasp too.
You can RNG it and kill it with one mag, but most of the time its around 2-4, if anyone else is shooting at the harvester, it will make a HUGE difference.

S tier (mandatory) : Democratic Detonation

A tier: Dust Devils, Servants of Freedom, Polar Patriots

B tier: Steeled Veterans, Viper Commandos, Chemical Agents, Borderline Justice

C tier: Urban Legends, Control Group, Truth Enforcers

D tier: Freedoms Flame, Halo, Force of Law, Masters of Ceremony, Cutting Edge

Let's go D10 Hellmire
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242795928356/76561198968546504

I enjoy Hellmire. I pulled through a flag mission in which like 5 people left throughout it and kept getting replaced by new ones. We killed a Hivelord and captured the baby one.
Struggle will always be better than boredom.

>>542373486
Try not playing with pubs instead of making your opinion based on playing with normies and third world niggers

I bought the Speargun but it feels a little weird, the stagger is good but the fact that it doesn't do a lot of damage makes it feel weird that it doesn't have like a like follow-up
Really fun for doing hit and runs against bug nests

>>542373486
99% of the time I have pubbies following me around like stray dogs trying to stick together. I don’t think I’ve ever seen 4 dudes split up across a mission and go do their own thing, ever.

>>542373985
I just wish Outpost Alpha actually meant anything, it should give buffs for stuff on the planet

>>542374091
Speargun is cool and usable but it’s very techy. Should probably bring a primary to back it up.

>>542374017
>Try not playing with pubs instead of making your opinion based on playing with normies and third world niggers
>Try not playing with (public lobby randos) instead of making your opinion based on playing with normies (public lobby randos) and third world niggers (public lobby randos)
You wanna try that one again, but with words that mean different things?

>>542374091
I usually use it to back up other AT options while not being overkill for mediums, the stagger can guarantee an Ultimatum or Thermite hit and if you hit a charger or BT their attack just disappears the moment the spear lands.

>>542374091
>it doesn't do a lot of damage
is this bait
>makes it feel weird that it doesn't have like a like follow-up
>gas disorienting the enemy isn't a "follow-up"
yeah it's gotta be bait

Wait, does the DSS orbital bombardment speed up defense progress as well? The moment it went over Hellmire our progress speed doubled.

>>542360487
>>542360702
Real, actual skill issue. Wear PP armor, put it on 750 RPM. I’ve been soloing D10 squids with it no prob.

>>542373971
still 1/4 :(

>>542374520
>>542374709
I had been taking gas grenades before this, so I can probably take something more antitank now since it sorta acts like a gas grenade by itself
>>542374737
What about it? The usual support weapon I take one shots most big things and it can't, so it does less damage. Are you mixing up the Speargun and the Spear?

>>542375009
you can 1-tap hulks to the eye with it, for me that constitutes it doing a decent chunk of dmg

>>542373468
H O T

>>542373971
2/4

>>542375369
YOU can 1-tap hulks to the eye with it

>>542373468
flanders?

>support weapon with a spotting rifle loaded with tracers
>spotting rifle rounds deal decent damage but the main purpose is to have the same ballistic drop as the HEAT round
>alt mode could be beacon rounds that the missiles will always track
https://youtube.com/shorts/c7b8U2N5-_w?si=GN8LLsD7rprfX6Y8

Thoughts? Idk I just saw the youtube short and thought arrowhead should make something like it

>>542373971
FVLL

>>542376047
>Thoughts?
Why is it called old man yaoi? It's yaoi, it's already about men, why isn't it just called old yaoi

Idea : laser designator pistol that lets you precision target your reds instead of throwing the strategem ball. Imagine designating a bile titan eye and your rocket pods one shot it

>>542376379
>take laser designation pistol
>don't take any reds

>>542375009
Your thermie bro

>>542376891
Yeah I just said that I should take that

Think about it, the spotting rifle could still do decent damage, would be faster that switching to your secondary and a lot less helldivers would waste rockets because they didn't calculate the right ballistics
https://youtube.com/shorts/bHjdNNoukr4?si=y2UM1XFf5sEZo575

>>542376047
>>542376976
we have this at home, just use a modded scope on eats

>>542376379
I'd rather have the Wrangler for turrets.

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242801718890/76561198141817078
Squids 10

>>542378159
1-4 would

I've been searching for a game on Hellmire for like 5 minutes now, I don't think it's my internet I can use the browser fine & have my TV streaming movies.

>>542377786
Ok but having a gun built into a rocket launcher is cool and sounds like something from helldivers so the fact there's nothing like that in the game yet is a crime

>>542378159
private...

>>542378465
oops. fixed.

>>542373971
2/4 wiped due to worm shenanigans

>>542378321
I can't find games on the beach but I know they are going...
Servers brickedd...

>>542378159
3/4

>>542378159
FVLL

>>542378159
>>542378939

CLOSED. JOINING SQUID LOBBY

WHICH IS FULL

Flag missions against Pred bugs with a hivelords and fire tornados is a special kind of hell. I've gone through 5 different team mates already, they keep leaving.

>>542378995
How is everyone else playing? Fuuuuuuuuu

>>542319554
Heavy nerfing of everything is why the game lost its momentum. No one cares about how good you are at killing dumb horde AI fucking losers.

The whining will not stop until every gun can shoot hellbombs. This is why you never give anything to shitters

I'm about to play solo cause these servers are wasting my day off.

LMAO

Uh oh, I think I breathed in some gloom spores!

If we knew what we do now would everyone have chosen Hellmire for Outpost Alpha?

>>542382930
HELL NO

>>542378321
>I can use the browser fine & have my TV streaming movies.
have you ever heard of bandwidth before

>>542378321
>>542378995
>>542379734
>>542381338
it's over...

>>542382930
I would have chosen hellmire for injecting dark matter into

>>542383041
just host my nigga

>12+ hours of beach diving today
I wanted to be there for the end of it but I think it's gonna be capped while I'm snoozin ;_;
I don't even care about the memes anymore I just wanna see the end I just wanna be there for it bros... I hope we're at like 99.7 when I wake up or something.

>>542382930
HELL YES

>>542360702
Yes, but... i dont like looking like a gay ass lasfag, i'd rater look like a ammochad

I would have been excited for worms on Hellmire if every mission with one didn't feel exactly the fucking same

>>542368836
A lot of reds just straight up lie and report more kills than they actually inflict

>>542383216
Nona...

>>542383742
I don't think reds have this bug

>>542383216
>I just wanna see the end I just wanna be there for it bros...
why, it's just a number

>>542383349
I like helical mags
Why the fuck does this game lets me put helical magazines on the default SMG
Then gets me a helical magazine uzi
But then says "btw these guns suck ass and you're a retard if you use em ahahaAHAHAHAHAHA"
What the fuck

>>542383869
many do, explosives generally
they count every lethal part break on an enemy as a separate kill iirc

>>542365859
I will sex into the bnuy fairly warned be ye

>>542374091
You're not wrong. The spear gun is grossly overrated.

>>542381338
kept telling you the rising swedejank quotient (swedeflation) is forcing the fuck off invite only solo play meta

>>542383917
I got sick with a huge fever and for some reason while stuck at home I played nothing but this with randoms and now it's like my brain is rewired to nothing but squids and the beach and I can't stop thinking about it until it's finally fucking over.
Sorry for the blog
TL;DR Profound mental retardation

all they had to do was make the de-escalator release gas and the speargun release electricity
one is clearly a crowd control weapon while the other shoots a bolt of lightning
how are swedes even real
they're like the sunfish of the human race

>>542370971
Both are viable. You either want high stagger options to beat the predator bugs off at close range, or precise ranged dps to kill predators at long range. Just don't be a retard like ohdough and bring a short range no stagger weapon like a flamethrower and then shitpost about how bad the game is because he's getting anally devastated.

>>542384495
>and the speargun release electricity
It's still not too late to have a speargun for every damage type.

>>542384601
>don't be a retard like ohdough
but what is ohdouche himself gonna do with this advice? kill himself I hope?

>>542373486
Then kick the jackasses that keep dying in that case rather than “solofags”
schitzo

>>542373835
Freedom’s Flame has the cookout so you’re wrong.

>>542378159
OVER

>>542384680
Would it be too much to ask for a rotating ammo setting for the spear if you open the weapon wheel? Set it to arc, gas, fire or an explosive pop?

here's rework:

>the more you injured the faster is your speed (at 30% health you can outrun anything)

>>542378159
ggs
now I want grilled squid

>>542378159
ggs squiders

>>542385305
Do you know about Tukada/giiby0xi btw

Banger games

>>542385192
no you see thats at least 4 new stratagems in 4 different warbonds at 10 dollars each

>>542373835
How can Urban Legends be C tier if it has the AT emplacement and pretty much the most popular armor perk? How can Borderline Justice be in B tier when it has better weapons than the ones you put in A tier?

>>542385192
Would probably be the best way to combat stratagem bloat. Really having all of them might be too much but having a few options would have been a good idea. Maybe gas, arc, and explosive/just a big spear that antitank.

>>542385556
>stratagem bloat
how dare you, that's several months of content for these incredibly hard working devs

>>542339008
anon confirmed for not being in any Foxhole clans

>>542374091
The Speargun is ultimately a good support weapon, it's not designed for killing but for giving openings, long range gas grenades, or stopping things that like to run you over. You want to bring a primary or secondary to augment it. It does also have damage fall off that's pretty crazy.

>>542385245
>tfw when you have someone take the stim booster while you take this, so you can stim up and have your friend shoot you so you can run faster than an frv for like 5 seconds before you clip a pebble and ragdoll to your death

>>542385245
too unrealistic and video gamey
>spawns a watcher right behind you
t. alexus

>>542385945
>surely he's joking it can't be that bad
>check speargun stats
>400% drag

we need stratagem customization which, among letting us change orbitals and greens according to preference, enables deep support weapon customization that can make a gas GL or an arc spear gun. for me it's the napalm autocannon and ergomaxxed AMR with 20-round drum mag.

>>542385437
I LOVE SQUNNY I LOVE SQUNNY I LOVE SQUNNY

>>542380052
I unironically want the enemies to torture my cock and balls so hard that the swiggers are justified in buffing most primaries and supports to keep up.
they say dark souls but I dont think they know what's actually enjoyed about dark souls in terms of difficulty

>>542386243
every day I thank god this isn't a dumbass codslop game that allows shit like that
then i flog myself because the game is shit

>>542386240
obligatory humiliation ritual for all those that want new sniper/overwatch style support weapons

>>542385462

nothing in borderline justice is as good as the coyote or purifier

>>542386240
They really wanted to emphasize that it's not for killing unless it's a hulk.

why the fuck does a single shrapnel from AC/Eruptor one shot helldivers? Aren't this first and foremost what helmets are for???
t. took another AC fragment to the head

>>542385437
NTA, but I was just thinking about that game recently and couldn't remember the name. cheers.

>>542385462

AT emplacement is only good against one faction and siege ready is incredibly overrated

>>542386606


your talon?
your oversaar 1-shotter?

>>542386782
precise and powerful weapons without gimmicks are le bad

>>542386732
>Aren't this first and foremost what helmets are for???
In a better world helmets would also have effects and one would have decreased headshot damage.

>>542386732
the shrapnel is the size of a dinner plate

>>542386606
I think both guns can hold a candle to Coyote. Purifier is a bit shit, plasma is always inferior to ballistic and laser, even the best plasma gun is merely decent.

>>542386732

the AC is 20mm thats literally like getting hit by a hind gunship round

>>542386732
>Aren't this first and foremost what helmets are for???
I saw a image one time about a WWII soldier asking his grandson if helmets finally block rifle rounds with him replying no but I can't find it.

>>542386935
then everyone would run the same helmet
the trailblazer helmet used to affect stats and for a while it's all anyone wore because it made you faster

hivelords were fun and cool when they released but now they're just an annoying chore

>>542387201
>then everyone would run the same helmet
Well that's not fair, there would probably be at least 3 helmet effects that would become mandatory.

IS IT THE FUCKING SERVERS OR IS IT ME? It's confusing as fuck seeing this thread just go on like usual but it's like I got remotely disconnected just from this game while everything else online works. I'm going to try another online game now. I just wanted to earn medals and unlock stupid shit for fucks sake.

>>542360702
>HMG 150 rounds (200 with siege ready)
I'd ask how old this is but then some of this is just plain wrong. 150 rounds is only correct if this image is very old and it's only counting the two spare magazines and not the one that it comes loaded with, but then saying siege ready gives it an extra 50 is implying that it's actually counting all 3 mags but that each magazine is only 50 rounds when they were originally 75 rounds each, and now 100 rounds.

>>542386968
i dont think so
>>542387082
I am talking about "shrapnel" not the round itself.
>>542387115
I don't even need them to block rifle bullets just fragmentation like they were always supposed to baka

>>542387530
your TV streaming movies is eating all your bandwidth dumb fucking poorfag

how do I stop getting low levels in my games? I'm tired of kicking, but also tired of carrying shitters.

>>542388441
faggot. man up

>>542388441
>he isn't skilled enough to carry low levels
kys skillet

>>542385245
>everyone stims with 0.001% health gone
useless

>>542370568
ill shit my pants until the joelish tricks have been corrected

>>542388845
reading comprehension

>Joel fucked the entire MO because he just can't fucking help himself and doesn't understand how his own liberation system works
>now set to lose Hellmire and zegbrubo bulungus
Back to the beach I go. How long until this hack gets fired? He's literally ruining the entire galactic war, nobody is happy with him, and he's pissing the entire playerbase off.

>>542388049
Insurgency Sandstorm is working perfectly fine, that game isn't running on swedish code though.

>>542389027
honestly who cares
new bug 'content' was interesting for like a week when it was new and nobody knew all the shitty jank beneath the surface

>>542388920
how about you comprehend these nuts in your mouth

>>542387772
ignore lasercoper posts

>>542389027
I'm pretty sure were on track to defend hellmire and take the planet right after

>>542389896
yeah Hellmire should be done in about 8 hours which gives us plenty of time to take Zea Rugosia

>>542388441
I'd say dive higher levels but for some reason I can't fathom the higher you go the higher you chance of getting sub 30's.

>no warbond
>no update
it's over, isn't it?

>>542390545
we don't need more warbond sloppa we need a 90-day performance fix spearheaded by a middle-aged japanese man with a sword

HMG was pretty reliably chewing up chargers today on an Eradicate mission, while also putting preddit bugs in the dirt. Laserniggers could never.

>>542390453
I dive exclusively D10 and see at least 2 sub 50s in every lobby. Makes me wish they'd stop incentivizing low levels to dive beyond their skill level for samples

>>542391103
>sub 50s are low level
you unlock everything by 25, remove yonder stick from thine anus

>>542391290
>sub 50s are low level
they are thoughbeit

>>542391290
And really I've seen 150's get themselves killed constantly and not understand mechanics, you can't really fix those types.

>>542391032
>laserbabbies are spelltwinks too
I guess that makes HMG enjoyers STR builds

I just watched Falling Down. Can we get an insane office worker warbond?

What if we built a second DSS?

>>542391574
eat + smg + automatic pistol + baton

>>542391290
>lvl 50 xp: 133,400
>lvl 150 xp: 1,168,000
yeah that's what I'd call a low level

When new level caps come we'll be calling 150s low level

>>542392046
Which machine gun do you think most closely resemble theirs?

>>542392046
>>542392292
both male btw

>>542392046
>>542392292
>AMR user

I enjoy the company of HMG users but the others are honestly a bit useless

>>542391631
6 more months of filler MOs on top of the current filler MO arc? pass

>>542391549
>STR builds
unable to kill anything without it standing still lol?

>>542392378
The one with the highest RoF

>>542392730
i really like stalwart and EAT on bots desu
>>542392378
https://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/3619

>Saturday peak sub 100k players
"people keep asking me if it's over..."

level 100 has played triple the amount of level 50
level 150 has played double the amount of level 100

>>542392414
I made that edit back when AMR cope was prevalent as all fuck, times sure like to change huh

>no lobbies
>have to host now
BACK TO... HVLLMIRE.
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242817397760/76561198120804312

>>542393339
hullmire? huh?

>>542393593
>instead of a fire tornado world, it's full of decaying super destroyer hulls
hvllkino

>>542393293
They ask you how you are and you just have to say that you're fine, when you're not really fine, but you just can't get into it because they would never understand.

>>542392730
Med MG is pretty good on squids

>>542393972
I find it workable but better choices exist

>>542393339
3/4

>>542393972
MG + Eruptor solves the entire faction

>>542393027
>can’t into hipfiring
Lel. Aim at the feet and it walks up to head/cheat on its own

>want to amr
>may as well bring guard dog then
>may as well bring any other backpackless support
>may as well not bring guard dog and just go AC
It'll always be a shit cope gun unless they make it wildly op.

>>542392378
The MG43 is pretty much that gun without barrel cowling

>>542394359
reading comprehension

>>542393339
STILL 3/4! JOIN NOW!

>>542394597
Based.
I get slightly triggered when I hear someone using a MMG that isn't at 900rpm.

>>542394515
and also worse sound

>>542394820
I CANT JOIN

>>542393339
FVLL

>>542394438
They just need to tweak the ergo and recoil so that you don't have to re-adjust back to the weak spot after every shot.
Even the ammo count would seem a lot fairer given the damage it could output then.
It'd be like the grenade launcher but trading CC for range.

>>542394587
Check your own comprehension, you ape. Learning to hip fire with the HMG lets you remain mobile and run & gun with it, especially with PP.

>>542395225
>stationary reload

>>542395381
Yeah I have to cop to that, it’s the worst part of the weapon.

>>542394438
I want them to buff it but forget about its absurd firerate so we get a week of everyone spamming it nonstop

>Enter Hellmire since its under attack
>Hivelord already spawned 2 minutes into the mission
Why dont we just blow up this god forsaken planet?

>2 full Coyote mags to fleshmob's face
>sentry hitting its back
How the fuck is someone suppose to fight 5 of these coming at you
Even a straight eagle strike makes them belly laugh
Gotta stop joining sadistdivers that just love pain

>>542390545
It’s fucking Sunday.

Hellmire status?

>>542395225
>>542394587
try again

>>542397571
you throw a gas grenade and unload on them with your flak-loaded AC, reloading every 5 shots

>>542397571
Eruptor

heavy ordance is saving this defense campaign. ppl barely finish mission even with everyone is spamming it

>>542397571
Expendable Napalm

>>542397571
a NEAT at its feet does the job consistently

>>542398460
Sounds ok I guess
>>542398650
Im not waiting 3 minutes in between shots that will miss if 5 degrees to the left
Bots only for that
>>542399041
Meh
>>542399069
I dont wanna rely on expendables
But I guess its the only route

>>542397571
If they're coming at you in packs of 5+, it is because your team is shitting the bed with squid drops. Kill more watchers, and use NEATS to spawn camp the UFO drops. You can shoot the underside of the UFO to rain fire on the spawns.

AHHHHHHHHHH ITS A SPERM CHARGER!!!!!

>Snoop Dogg crossover
>Orbital Gas Barrage
>This as an emote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3C65fQW9_w

>>542400038
>drops
retard alert

>>542400038
Does killing ships help? Bot and squid?
To me it feels like there's an infinite off world fleet that just keeps bringing guys in and im wasting time shooting the ship when I could be killing the guys it spawns
Someone else is always handling the ships for me so im not too sure
I can handle everything else fine, even Harvesters and Stingrays
But the fleshmob just ruins the plans sometimes
Especially when the voteless just slap the fuck out of sentries

>>542400632
For squids it's not a very good idea because of the shield, UNLESS a sam site is up in which case strip the shields so the missile kills it.
For bots it's always a good idea if you have AT to spare since 1 rocket to the thruster downs it and kills much of the payload, and any surviving devastators or zerkers are stuck in a buggy half-floating state.

>>542400632
those days of personal anti-air are gone after both got buffed after AH saw the AA footage

>>542400632
Watchers are the little drones that send up flares and summon reinforcements. Squids are a cakewalk if everyone just kills them as priority #1.

The UFOs that fly in and drop off enemies are functionally like bot dropships. If you destroy one quickly, then it doesn't get an opportunity to spawn enemies. But it is slightly impractical to destroy them since they have an energy shield. I'm not advocating to destroy the UFOs. I'm saying that neat NEAT is good at melting a freshly spawn group of enemies that beam out of a UFO. If you can hit the group directly, then that's great. But if necessary you can shoot the UFO and rain a number of napalm submunitions down upon the freshly spawned enemies.

You don't need to use NEATS as a main support weapon. You're free to use something else up until some ignorant fool triggers a drop. Then you can call in NEATS, vaporize two UFOs worth of spawns, and continue on with using your original support weapon.

so what is the downside of the laser cannon?

>new to game
>level 31
>already doing hardest difficulty
>its too easy
new difficulty when

>>542401705
bad bad dps

>>542401894
its fine theres no ammo

PISS
SHIT
ZAP
& FIRE
ONLY BY MASTERING ALL 4 ELEMENTS OF DEMOCRACY CAN THE HELLDIVERS HOPE TO KEEP ITS FOES AT BAY
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242824068039/76561198040375859

>>542401959
It's not so fine since generally an shortage of ammo isn't a problem

>>542401959
You can have all the ammo in the world, but if things in front of you don't die fast enough you die anyway.

>>542401871
>level 30
>getting carried in D10
scenes like this are happening all over the galaxy

>>542402145
> shortage of ammo isn't a problem

>>542402231
nigger i go to POI's solo and and destroy objectives, some missions i join are on 0 reinforcements with level 100+'s

>>542401871
Reddit and /hdg/ cried until all of the enemies were nerfed into the ground. D10s today are comparable to d6 or d7 back at launch. They're crying even now to nerf war Striders, flesh mobs, dig bugs, dragons, and the hive lord.

nuh uh

>>542402265
When was the last time that you ran out of ammo?

>>542402701
i was testing the laser cannon and ran out of heat sinks

On hellmire do the hive lords show up on any kind of map or is there one I should be targeting specifically

>>542401463
>UNLESS a sam site is up in which case strip the shields so the missile kills it.
We normally come across SAMs so yes that is handy
But does killing the ships really reduce drop rates for them?
Easier to just spawn camp them once they land
With bots 1-2 eruptor shots to the belly of a ship can scrap em

>>542401569
Explaim

>>542401638
Yeah I use the Judge Dredd pistol to quickly kill the drones
It's entirely what it's for to me

And so its just best to spawn camp the beam?
I normally run Emancipator + 3 Reds
Feel like a hero stomping around blasting ayyliums

level 30 newfag here again
is it really frowned upon to go do objectives solo? the fuck is wrong with this autistic community

>>542402143
We're 2/4, still need a brapdiver and a zapdiver

>>542403081
>its just best to spawn camp the beam?
pretty much

>>542403130
If you're good enough to drop and orbital at the right place and leave then you're a hero
If you go in guns blazing and die people roll their eyes and have to bring you back like an idiot
Most solodivers think they're the main character because of rank
Just pop in
Throw an orbital laser and dip

What does Tele-strike mean?

after the next match (zzz vs gig), in ~40 minutes from this post, our newfag divegrass manager is going to job again vs fortnite general on:
https://cytube.implying.fun/c/vgleague
come cheer for the team to bail him out with some good plays.

>>542403081
It's easier to spawn camp the beam because it's impractical to destroy a UFO before it drops off its compliment of troops. But if you do successfully destroy it fast enough, then you prevent that group of reinforcements from being spawned whatsoever.

>>542402143
Hey, faggots, quit kissing your girlfriends and join in. 3/4

>>542403130
The people bitching about "solofags" are shitters with shit builds who can't keep their head above water on their own. They need to be carried.

Optimal is probably two teams of two splitting up, clearing the map, and linking up for the final objective/mega base.

>>542403130
>is it really frowned upon to go do objectives solo?
only here in anonymous contrarian land
any squad of well adjusted divers that know their dads will aprreciate you lone wolfing annoying shit like boring secondary objectives (hi seaf arty) and heavy outposts

>>542393339
2/4.
Anons went to eat, sleep/jack off or something.

>>542404412
nice can't wait to lose again

>>542393339
3/4

>>542404657
The problem with this, is that the game seems to register no drop and sends a new ufo.
I've taken out 4 drop ships or ufos with a team loaded spear, and got 4 more right after that in a group of two.

It's not consistent but I've seen it enough to get mad at sweden.

>>542386279
casy go back to twitter

>>542393339
full

There's no gas primary, right?

Epoch is absolutely worthless vs. the pred strain holy shit

>>542404412
Are we getting a game on homefield?

Underbarrel GL attachment with the power of grenade pistol and 10-15 ergo tax would be balanced.

>>542407382
homefield doesnt exist yet. it will be coming for the next major vg tourney

>>542407316
no shit lol
take the stalwart or mmg, and maybe an ems strike

>>542407316
>a slow and methodical AoE weapon does poorly versus the rushdown niggers subfaction
no way

>>542370568
>You cock it all up with your corporate account mandate bullshit
I still cant fathom how they thought that was a good move.

so they are going to introduce the new squids from the leaks this 14th right? otherwise why are they this radio silent for supposedly a bunch of "fixes"?

>>542407702
they're used to dealing with a culture where consumer dick flattening is the norm, and they didn't expect a nuclear sperg out

>>542407316
Bring gas and greens to soak aggro then chud.

What's the point of ap3 when there's no ap2 faction. Ap4 works well because you can kill shit with ap3 armor twice as efficiently as ap3 while also shooting chip damage into ap4 targets.
Ap3 only exists for the few ap3 chaff targets that it can't even handle efficiently, not even gunships because those are too tanky.

ap3 isn't even real

>>542408290
What?

>>542407316
>the dogshit "bad as a joke" AT weapon is bad VS the rush down faction with minimal heavies
No shit?

Im level 29 and can't find fucking super samples

>>542408597
Why is there no faction or prevelant pool of enemies with ap2. Like why would you bring machine gun over HMG when ap3 targets are more dead per bullet by HMG, and stalwart handles anything light.

>>542409105
Have you tried actually searching for them at a difficulty level where they exist?

>>542409105
Want me to host money printing lobby for you?

>>542404412
Once again I come forth with a promise to make SEAF-chan lewds if we win.

>>542409337
Im at the right level to find them but can never sniff them out

>>542409459
Im an xbox chud so I don't want to be a bother for you guys

>>542409139
HMG has bad(der) handling, worse ammo capacity, bad recoil and less total damage. On squids it will only noticeably better against Harvesters, maybe. Otherwise inferior. Bugs too, killing heavies with HMG is a slog anyway, otherwise you are only more effective against Hive Guard (pfff)

>>542409459
I've been so tempted to ask someone to do this for me but I know that it would probably make me get bored of the game faster

>>542409609
>>542409105
It's just at that big upside down teardrop/mushroom shaped rock

>>542409609
Explore more then. As long as you're not in a Megacity or a dense forest map, you should be able to spot them from a mile away.

>>542409609
Xbox is not a problem, friend code exists

>>542409691
Maybe, but honestly the only real issue with sample are common because you need like 250 of those for upgrades, you will be maxed on them and rares very quickly. You will get your progression through warbonds and levels

>>542409105
>normal maps
Look for the cock rock
>megacity
Large square building POI that's raised a few meters off the ground. Don't bother doing megacities for super samples cause sometimes they don't spawn

>yet another easy Hellmire defense
>second Megacity will be secured before then, putting the planet at 67% liberation and a stone's throw away from unlocking the third Megacity
>still a day and a half left to finish off Zea Rugosia after all this

And "people" were worried that this MO would fail somehow.

>>542409613
>less total damage
Think it's the same last I checked actually.

Squids
>Flyers, harvesters
Basically the main reasons you're bringing it. Machine gun is too slow for overseers and a waste against flesh mobs.
Your primary can wipe up anything else

>Bugs
Hive guards, bile spewers
Then you have a versatile answer for anything else. Like stuns into leg stripping is super easy. Railgun bro will love an HMG just tapping shots down into a bile titan head.

Like honestly even being your primary is better delegated to stalwart.

>>542409807
I usually drop on empty desert/snow planets so yeah I guess that helps thanks

>>542409790
I can never find those
I have a very penis mind too

>>542409916
Trust me the xbox goes crazy at D7+
I just grind what I can and have fun
I dont like suffering so I play fun games

>>542410201
Reddit just straight up does not understand how cities work and assume that it's over literally any time there's a city

>>542409916
>You will get your progression through warbonds and levels
I disagree the power from ship upgrades is your progression, warbonds are when you're bored of the game and want to mix things up like not relying on certain supports.

>>542407962
>otherwise why are they this radio silent
they were on another state mandated vacation
no i am not jesting

We're up!
https://cytube.implying.fun/c/vgleague

>>542409519
if they're ai we don't want 'em

>>542394846
I switch firemodes depending on the situation.

>>542410798
We would have to win first, so you have nothing to fear.

>>542410428
>a m-megacity?!?!
>AAAAAAAAH

>>542410286
>Think it's the same last I checked actually.
No, MMG has like 1/3 more.
>Basically the main reasons you're bringing it.
Ehh?? The main reason for MGs is to tear through hordes of chaff, overseers and pack lead into fleshmobs. Harvesters are better dealth with any other AP4 or higher support, Stingrays die fast enough even to AP3 primaries.
>versatile answer for anything else
And that "anything else" is will be dealt with far better with MMG or even Stalwart.
Basically, Stalwart excels at killing AP2s, MMG is slightly worse at AP2s but can also kill AP3s more than well enough, then HMG is even worse against AP2s (90*% of what you are dealing with), better at AP3s and cat tickle Chargers.