Thread 542432429

Air blockstun is broken and the game is being developed by morons edition

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>TWO ECKS KAY OH
>>542244754

i need a good character for yasuo point

i don't like ahri's assists in neutral
i miss having jinx rocket.. darius tackle.. blitz hook..

can we delete assist pushback

Lmao I was in the middle of making a thread too, what are the odds there were going to be 2 vi threads at the same time

>>542432628
stop autopiloting your pressure!
>>542432615
warwick works nice too
yasuo works with everyone

>>542432615
doesn't matter, pick whoever you want. yasuo will take care of the rest

>>542432628
it's cool how it absolutely buttfucks everyone in the game except the top tiers like yasuo, who will simply go into stance and use mist finer xxl to kill you for even thinking about it

>#17
The fuck, I missed them all?
>>542246859
lol that you qiqianon?

this game is based because they only listen to good players when it comes to balancing

>>542432719
>>542432845
>press uno button
>get immediately pushed back to midscreen
>now have to get back in vs zoners
joy

Look at the reads
Look at the mushrooms
How does he do it
>>542432934
yeye whats up anon

>>542433408
LITERALLY just call an assist
If they pushblock you, the assist will tag their assist and then you can just tag to your assist and start a semi-happybirthday blockstring that also puts their assist on an infinite cooldown until you drop it

>>542433408
you can either hold their infinite pressure until you get hit, or push them away (still forced to block their next button) and then fight your way in
awesome!

>>542433586
also you really can't even fight back once you've push-blocked, because your assist is on a 5 second cooldown now and theirs is only on three. so they backdash 90 times in one second, wait for the assist, then call it, and now you're holding pressure with your assist on cooldown and them doing whatever they want to you lo

>>542433416
Nice

hello blitzcrunks
here is an easy reset. it beats forward and back techs. Neutral tech escapes. You do need either assist or to have steam already to take advantage of it but I havent had anyone actually neutral tech it yet. The air command grab is manually timed but you just react to the tech flash.

>>542432713
tf is this marvel ass cosmetic

scientists have come together to find the exact moment that a match becomes the most boring piece of shit you've ever played

>>542435176
wtf u talkin about bruh 2x timewinder assist balanced af ong frfr

>>542434660
It's an alt color of vi's neon strike skin
I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be rogue reference

>>542434632
I dont play ahri, ill have to find something else

Also Blitzcrank is kinda disappointing me most of the times but then I scam people with his 2M or j.2H and enjoy him again. Absolutely busted moves

Can someone explain to me when am I able to combo the OTG in the corner after Darius S1 followup?
I really don't understand how it works

>>542436603
which s1 followup? the headbutt? or the grab?

>fighting a Teemo/Blitz who wasn't really doing anything advanced but zoned exceptionally well
>beat them
>angry
lmao so that's how it feels being on the receiving end of teemo, huh

This guy was way the fuck better than me he had blockstrings and conversions and tag combos and shit
But I was in his head bro
I was hard reading his jump ins and I conditioned the fuck out of him to jump my Vi grab only to air grab that kid for the win
It's simply that shrimple

>beat the fuck out of an ekko/yasuo 2-0 with darius blitz
gonna cum
this game feels so good when you're winning

>>542440194
this has the same energy of sfv ryu forward dashing towards you

they need to disable handshake tag on 2x assist second assist call. you either get the 2x assist, or you get the handshake tag after the first assist call.

in all my time playing ggst i never thought i'd see something carry people harder than happy chaos and now 2xko is out and you can throw a timewinder with one button. life is truly incredible

How does warwick put his pants on
Are they the same pants he had when he was vander
Anyone have the answer

>>542436886
Meant to say S2, the bleed special

>lab a combo
>go into game
>hit the combo
>get hit
>get mixed
>lose the round
>hit them
>drop the combo
>lose the game
IAIAEIIEIEIEIEIEEIEEEEEE

>>542444882
practice makes perfect :)

>>542444460
oh, so the s2s2 followup has a sweet spot at the tip of darius' axe. if you hit too close with the handle part of his axe, they won't slump, but if you hit from the right distance, they will

How come this game doesnt have any DPs?
Not that it really matters with the universal wakeup being in the game but seems weird that characters like Vi don't have one

>>542445241
Vi has a DP
She and Warwick are the only ones with actual DPs
Darius also has a 1f meterless reversal but it's armor based instead

>>542445241
they don't want to have those kinds of moves
modern games have moved away from shoryukens

the best you'll have are conditional ones, like darius 3S2, warwick 2S2, vi super1

>>542445241
darius' armor move used to be about as good as one but then they gutted it to the point where literally nobody uses it lol

Everyone talks about easy to kit out characters like assassins and tanks and bruisers
Gimme your real support champ picks and how they would play here, let's get crazier

>>542446118
i dont rly like any support champs though

>>542445150
Thanks, I thought it had to do with the number of hits

>>542446118
bard
>ramping basic attacks
>need to collect meeps around the arena
>more meeps = more blockstun
>super is just bard ult that zhonyas the enemy for 10 seconds
>lets the player either setup traps or run around for meeps
>lets the player go for either timeouts or jank trap setups

>>542446118
Idk about the whole kit but I always figured Sona could have a move where she just played music.

In P4 and BBTAG Yukiko had this move, where she'd have an initial hitbox that knocked you away and you could then hold the button to heal herself.
During the channel she was invul to projectiles too so it was a funny way to cheese out other zoners who'd have to run in to stop you.
Shit was really quite funny and I think it'd fit into this game, maybe you could handshake tag Sona out and keep holding the heal button while you comboed someone, and heal a fuck ton.
Probably hard to balance but it would make for some killer clips.

>>542446118
Crystal Maiden and she plays like Sub Zero

>>542446118
i dont know how they'd play but id like to see thresh, leona, rell or rakan personally. mostly because i'd be curious how they handle rakan and xayah on the latter

>>542447017
xayah and rakan would play like android 18

Wawa vs supernoon is actually a crazy set
These guys are feral and dumping buttons swinging at each other
Noon was just outclassed though, shame no reset

Anyone wanna duo with me real quick? I need this fucking token.

>>542445662
Level 3 super is hardly a "DP". Nothing else is frame 1 invuln and that's what people mean by DP.

>>542446118
>support champ
I played Poppy as support back in the day

>>542448283
sure

>>542435795
I imagine you can get a similar setup with anyone who can produce a wallbounce or groundbounce off of blitz's super 1. I checked Teemo, Darius, and Ekko and found setups with them. Vi I can see working if you can backdash out of the corner.

>>542448570
Cool, I'm GeneralJingora#NA1.

>>542449098
sent

Clayton absolutely destroying you trannies again love to see it. What happened to that one guy that ran away from Clayton last time? Is he still here lmfao.
https://youtu.be/9bWReSs1Veo

>>542448430
You know she doesn't count
I hope that if she does get in we get the Noxus skin on release too

>>542450608
Why's all the LoL splash arts on such a weird and shitty resolution even on official websites, where the fuck can I find LoL art at proper resolutions and qualities

>>542448975

Basically, just extend the combo so much they will flip out of a launcher?

>>542446118
TARIC nigga
You cast his super and then if you stay in the circle he makes on the ground for 5 seconds you get invul and hyperarmor for 3 seconds idk

>DBFZ
>throw is L+M
Yeah, DBFZ is better than this crap

>>542452848
brother i have been looking at dbfz clips
that new patch just killed the game harder than it ever was

It took a minute for it to click for me but the reason I'm liking this so much is it's just DNF Duel but tag. DNF Duel was a lot of fun when not fighting horseshit characters like Swift Master.

>>542454246
i liked berserker

>>542449261
Thanks again anon, this shit was driving me nuts.

>>542454354
My jam was doing slam loops with Grappler. His air-to-ground chargeable grab was some of the most devious shit I've ever seen, it was so cool.

>>542446118
It isn't even that hard to conceptualize a support in a tag game, make it so they set up buffs/debuffs that are designed to work/transfer to your tag partner.

I don't play League anymore but I can't stand Neeko's stupid face

>>542454246
based kusoge enjoyer

>>542454354
>Normally like vanguard in DFO
>He's boring as fuck in the fighting game
>Hate Berserker for being a boring to play braindead spec in DFO
>He's fun as fuck in DNF
Aieee...

>>542456686
>hating on vanguard in dnf duel

>>542455060
It kind of is when they also need to do solo combos and blockstrings themselves
They aren't just the two assists
It's kind of hard to imagine what sona's highs or lows would look like

>>542456891
He doesn't have any of his cool visual effects, none of his unstoppable juggernaut gimmick with his super armor and really fucking shit voicelines compared to the MMO

>>542457009
i never played the original but the directional input combo thing he has is so sick and it should be in more fighting games

>Tekken gets a hot brown girl before 2xko does
wtf man

ekko and yasuo are so far ahead of the rest of the cast it's not even funny desu
they really need to stomp these chars' necks

>>542456920
This fella but notes from her instrument hitbox/fighstick instead, you're welcome rito

>>542457226
>tekken ruins a cool endboss character by bringing him back as a random female character that has nothing to do with him
i hate this shit so much it's unreal

>>542457248
Just play the brown colors

guys it's been two weeks and i still cannot get used to this garbage controls. I cannot develop the brain fingers connection, can't make the char do seamlessly what i want him to do.
This is not my first fightan btw

>>542457226
>>542457568
Oops, wrong tag

>>542457149
It's not horrible but I'm sure there were more fitting characters for that gimmick, his actual gimmicks would be (assuming we're acting like anything after 1st awakenings don't exist)
Long range without being actual ranged
0 fucking invul moves where everyone gets some, important
Moves that last long or have long recoveries
However, also the ability to literally just cancel every single of his moves into a move called Smash, there's a few versions of this that slightly move you but that part literally never matters as they practically hit the same area for the same damage which is where that gimmick comes from I guess. There are a bunch of cancels on every character in DFO really, but he's the only one alongside Striker that straight up doesn't care which move when cancelling but he and both Strikers play really differently
Super armor on literally every single attack so you don't get fucked over for anything that won't instakill you

Thanks for coming to my TED Talk I like both DNF and DFO

>>542457737
It is really weird to adapt to. I still keep accidentally hitting the tag button instead of S2.

damn lol there is literally unironically absolutely N O T H I N G you can do against teemo as certain characters

>>542457281
Probably. But it is a bit harder for sona especially because she'd need to be playing the instrument the whole time for each and every normal
You can't just make her wave her arms at random and generate music notes like you can with Ahri or Asuka's magic

jabs in this game fucking suck. Too slow for abare

>>542457992
every character can walk forwards and block thoughbeit

>>542435176
good thing he's only in 99% of matches past emerald

>>542441723
I think this game is trash but God damn when you hit the happy birthday with Darius on a Heavy starter and finish with a HEADLESS into DHC it's some dopamine shit
speaking of, the little I've watched of dbfz seems like there's almost never a happy birthday in that game. anyone knows why?

>>542458272
dw they're buffing him so he'll be in 100%

>>542458671
mostly because you're ping ponging the characters around so the assist eventually falls out. also the assist calls in dbfz are pretty strong so they usually dont get hit since you're using them in a blockstring for mix or to extend a combo

why the fuck when you bait a burst they bounce on the wall in that weird ass angle? Makes it hard to actually convert. Can't they just make them slowly fall down like in gg?

>>542458245
i think probably you should kill yourself irl

>>542458671
what the other anon said, but also this game will just have more happy birthdays due to the nature of active tag
the characters need to stick around on the screen for you to tag to them unlike in dbfz where they just show up and then bail without even posing

they need to add a system to prevent tods, a hard cap like limit strike. This shit is dumb as hell

>>542446046
I use it a lot when I try to input 3H

>>542459713
yeah, even i mix up fireball and dp all the time. it's a shame because it's legitimately one of the worst moves in the game

>Warwick can hit you with three different types of mix-up at close-range and all of them lead to a high damaging combo
Why can he combo off his fuckin sweep if he has assist.

just gonna start one and doneing ekko faggots til they gut this character

>>542460875
lol based

>>542459350
ToDs in this game are totally fine

it takes 2 touches through burst to kill a first character and then you can only ToD the second with like 5 bars of meter or fury, that's 4 touches minimum with practically no resources expended on the first kill. Similar to most other fighting games.
If you watched evo, nobody is getting one touched for game

>>542459140
teemo laugh emote

i'm so much fucking better at the game than you holy fucking shit (ignore my tardmashing trying to get fury to pop in neutral lol)

>>542458671
feels fucking fantastic man
getting bursted and then catching both characters with raw headless. unf

>>542461547
>ToDs in this game are totally fine

>>542463906
Yes
In any fighting game you can do 50% of someone's health if you dump all your resources into it, in this game you can kill 50% of someone's characters if you dump all your resources into it.

No one will ever convince me that being juggled for a minute straight and losing a character off a single medium button (if that, assuming it wasn't a 50/50 or worse) is fun or fine gameplay
And what's worse, no one will ever convince me that juggling someone for a minute straight and killing one of their characters off a medium button is fun or fine gameplay.

>>542464335
why not?
yasuo does it off a light after all :)
it's funny how this patch's headline was "yasuo shorter combos" and i just got hit by a 25 hit meterless solo yasuo combo a minute ago

>>542464335
>you shouldn't be rewarded for managing your resources because....because me no likey combos!!!
zzz

>>542464252
Losing 50% and losing a character do not entail the same things
This is also ignoring any happy birthdays

you guys talk about tods like they happen all the time but when was the last time you got hit by an honest to god tod that killed one of your chars from full health?
i only really have this happen when i get hit by fury

>>542465328
If you get happy birthdayed you deserve it because you truly fucked up making a tactical blunder.

>>542465328
True, but thats another factor to why the tod isn't as bad.

You would always prefer to meter dump to two touch or get a fucked up mix on the first character, rather than save all your meter and potentially let the first one live just to ToD the second.

Getting the first kill matters so much more than the first 50% of someones hp bar in SF, so saving enough resources for a ToD is really not common. There wasn'ta single ToD in the evo top 8 that I can remember, maybe not even in the top 32. There's a reason for that my nigga

>>542465597
i did just basically tod someone within the first 10 seconds
teemo would've died even if he was full health

>>542466252
People say ahri is bad btw

>>542466252
lol nice fuck teemo

>>542466391
everyone who plays this game is a fucking retard with no sense for whether or not a character is strong
every time you see someone call this game "well balanced" you must simply lol and keep scrolling

>>542466391
Nobody does that

>>542466252
ahri bnbs?

>>542466603
"lol"

>>542466497
yeah, he's the current problem i don't know how to solve
i can't get in on a good teemo at all

>>542465689
Happy birthdays are extremely common at all levels of play nigger

>>542466797
How do hitboxes work in this game anyways? Do moves/specials have baked in iframes or situational iframes like invuln to air attacks?

>>542466910
Did I say they were rare? No, I said if you call your assist at a shitty time where your opponent can scoop you and your tag into a combo you deserve to get bent over.

God, Braum's stupid charge is active for way too long

>>542466619
i'm not fond of the '6S2 7S2 jS1' routes,
because it's sketchy to do vs big bodies

>2H j(MH ad H S2) dash super1 ...
>MH 6S2 7S2 jS2 dash super1 ...
>S1 S1 j(6S2 4S2 S1 ad H S2) super1 ...

and the ender is always
>super1 j(LL 6S2 H) slight backwalk S2 S2 2S1

>>542466984
yeah, some moves are flagged with being invul vs certain hitboxes
eg, every 2H invuls through attacks considered airborne

more complete version of that combo on teemo, but still easy to do

>>542467080
The assists in this game stay on the screen like three times longer than any other assist based game

>>542466252
is mh s1 s1 into s2 stuff new this patch, I dont remember that working when I was last labbing her before

>>542469164
i believe so

>>542461547
>If you watched evo, nobody is getting one touched for game
I'm not playing at EVO.
What Riot does for League is that they balance for all levels in the game, from pros to shitters. If something is extremely cancer in Platinum solo queue but sees zero use in competitive, they will nerf it.
And that's the correct thing to do.
Hopefully they do the same here.

>>542463617
That's some patience, I would have popped HEADLESS at 0:12~ when he popped Fury and went straight for a proj

>>542471101
i didn't have meter til i hit the cleave lol
shit was nightmarish, i've been playing darius/blitz because when the EA started i played a lot of ww/teemo and then moved to darius/ww when ranked came out. it was bothering me that ww was my most played character, so i took him off the team to pump darius' number a bit, but this was the result (and yes i winquit that shit without even thinking about it)

>>542471260
>i didn't have meter
Shit you're right, I was looking at Teemo's bar.
I wonder if it would have been good to use retreating guard to try and get some meter for HEADLESS but I imagine not

>>542471613
i didn't even know that gave meter!!! what the fuck!!!
that might indeed be a big help for future attempts at this matchup, if it gives a decent bit

>>542474873
kek but also literally have not seen a single positive post about that shit

>maximillian is doing a live 2v2 duos
I don't have three other friends to play 2xko with...

>>542475497
if you're in na you've got at least one oomfie to duo with (me)

>>542468304
neat route. I might be just fucking it up/imagining things but it feels like you get significantly more hitstun on the super1 when you hit it as soon as you hit the ground because I'm having to omit the (midscreen) dash to connect the jumping Ls. Feels weird.
I already turned off the game but I just remembered they added a real frame meter so maybe I'll look at it tomorrow.

Another day, another 2xKami WON day

How the FUCK do I learn good combo routes with assists?
Im too used to playing SF6 where combos are short and fairly easy to get. Vi beginner combo on the wiki is longer than probably any SF6 combo, and then throw the tag system on top and its like learning a different language

>>542448975
oh I just realized.
I use WW. I can just use the shoulder tackle to make the opponent crumple against the corner.

thank you I just needed to sleep kek

>>542450372
He's correct, this game is VERY amateurish. I wouldn't give a shit if this was some just no name indie game but yeah apparently mega super pros and fighting game veterans are working on it and shit like the yasuo teemo clip exist... Huh.

I'm taking this game as one from a literal no-name amateur indie game and setting my expectations based on that, but the truth is that this game was 10 years in development and made by RIOT. So... yeah
It's fun and everything but some design choices are just questionable, see air blocking being broken. It's not even a meme, I hit so many people from air blocking because they just don't expect me to be giga plus or anything, it's just not common fighting game sense

Clayton, at the end of the day, these people moved forward with their lives onto better and happier things, while you are perpetually stuck in 2006, while you as a person have not changed since back then, still yapping about ''This person did this, these group of people did this'' which you are correct on some things, but at the same time, how long can you be a victim for?

Will things ever change?

i'm really fucking tired of changing my ahri bnb every two days
NO, i'm gonna stick with what i have for now even if it's not optimal
wasted too much time already

>>542483286
>every single time someone blocks in the air it's a scramble because neither side is sure who actually has advantage
grim

"We are moving you to another lobby to improve your experience"
What the hell does this mean? Did I lose too many times and I got Strive Tower fucked or something? I thought the whole point of the lobby ghost overlap shit was so that it didn't matter what lobby people were in. I was playing some good matches regardless of my opponent wininng 5/6 of them, I hadn't really fought Ekko before and I was trying to learn the timing to Warwick run through his projectiles and then I just get booted.

>>542488969
>de-ranked

kek

>>542489110
I'm not even playing ranked I'm playing casual matches. If the way they're going to handle playing this game means I can't make a choice to play people of any skill level outside of private lobbies that might be enough for me to stop playing. I'll play ranked when I'm ready, I don't bother with that until I'm actually comfortable playing a fighting game and that usually takes time.

>>542489398
>>542488969
Didn't know it did this but sounds like total garbage for casual

>>542477526
you're right that you have to do the super1 asap when doing S1 S1 stuff

>>542450372
Stop writing about yourself in third person
It makes you look even more pathetic and mentally ill than you already are

HOLY
FUCKING
SHIT

ban numbersposting globally NOW

is DBFZ also backdash spam until assist comes up?

>>542493485
now post the steam charts

>>542493542
>AAA SAVE ME RIOT-SAMA THEY ARE POSTING THE NUMBERS AGAIN!!! AYEEE THE GAME ISN'T EVEN ON STEAM THIS WASN'T SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN!!!

>>542493630
You have no fucking idea. It's upback+assist or upback+superdash. Just watch Evo France grand finals. 2XKO will develop into the exact same but worse because air blocking is way stronger here and handshake tag makes taking any risk even scarier than DBFZ.

>>542493630
Characters have quick single-button projectiles and low-hitting fullscreen 2Ms, so not really, it's more of an upback and spam assist type of game.

>>542493726
>will develop
im in diamond and its already like this

>>542493884
No anon you can't just say that without 2000 hours of webms to back it up. Just wait a month or two for every tournament to look that way and then we can admit that the current game design encourages overly safe neutral

>>542494025
Don't be silly anon, it can't encourage something that doesn't exist.

>>542494185
this is such a dumb meme, yes we get it you don't know how to play tag fighters

Everybody is constantly backdashing and playing full screen neutral but at the same time neutral doesn't exist

If you ain't wriggling back and forth whiffing medium forward, it ain't neutral boyo.

Nothing feels better beating a duo while playing juggernaut/sidekick.

>>542494448
You've cracked the code anon
When I get rushed down in my platinum games it's because it's a no neutral mickey game
When I get lamed out in my platinum games its because it's an overly safe neutral mickey game

>>542493726
>>542494025
>will develop
you're the better player than the entire evo top 64 players we get it anon
none of them are playing overly safe and laming the game out because they just dont know how broken it is unlike you right?

2XKO should embrace its roots and reach the pure kusoge level.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj5STPHDnJQ

>>542494025
Reminder that I asked you for one single example and you couldn't provide
Would probably be about a 5 second webm at that but w/e bro

>>542460459
if youre playing vs warwick and not blocking low by default and ON REACTION blocking high then maybe you just dont have the gene.

>+11/-7
its gonna take fucking forever to hit emerald.

>>542498995
I want to see Astral vision in this game, imagine how hilariously broken it would be with the double assist or double handshake you could do
Crossing my fingers Zed gets it

>>542484479
>>542493121
Clayton has moved on tho. I mean look at the guy, there's videos of him looking like he was on his death bed and could die any minute. Now he looks like a chad, has videos of him traveling in different countries, and still releases banger combo videos in his own time. Meanwhile his detractors still have never apologized and take credit for what ever he finds. It's the opposite.

>brown elementalist girls got into a fighting game in 2k25
>its not this one
fucked up

>picks jinx ekko yasuo or teemo
thanks ill be waiting out the timer actually

>>542457737
just two more weeks bro

>>542503573
>he says this posting vex
what do you think your champ does the entire laning phase

>>542503573
Don't play the game if you're just a whiny baby

>add negative penalty
>fix the airblock frame data
>double the assists cooldown at least
>stop trying to appeal to retarded marvelfags
boom the game is fixed

>>542499085
NTA but TNS has had multiple games time out during finals rounds

>jinxretards dont post the top 8 results when they dont agree with their narrative
OH NONONONO JINXDOWNPLAYERS?

>>542505801
based based based based based

>>542506365
>jinx in top 8 at Evo too
Jinx sissies... Do we just suck?

>add sougenmu
>add swords of revealing light
>give yasuo and ekko devil triggers
>add astral vision
>put warwick into bloodrage mode all the time and let him mash his berserker barrage
BOOM the game is fixed

>>542505801
Negative Penalty is, and always has been, a shitty band-aid that only treats the symptom and not the root cause of the problem. While it would theoretically slightly improve the game, how about actually addressing the issue at hand? Slapping on new mechanics to fix the issues stemming from base gameplay is how we got into this mess in the first place, it's not going to get us out.

>jump instant overhead against a croucher
>she crouches under the overhead
Buff yasuo

Vi players, what combos have you been using?

Just walk forward and play neutral instead of begging for mechanics that will force the enemy to run into your buttons

>>542507440
>easy combo
5L 5M 5H 5H S2mash 2H j.L j.M j.H j.S j.S1 S1S
>hard combo
whatever the fuck people do with electrics but i haven't needed it and im in emerald

>hitting ekko timewinder assist to punish jinx fireball
thats cool but like
how come the best counter to this ekko character is another ekko

>>542506365
>Yasuo
>Ekko
>Ekko
>Ekko+Yasuo
>Ekko
>Ekko
>Yasuo
>Yasuo
>Entire top 8 is Ekko vs Yasuo or mirror
>But nigga complains about Jinx

>>542507807
>uhhh my character is bad and got over nerfed and is unplayable and is dogshit and im going to post all the top 8s that dont have any jinxes to prove it
>uhhh she wonn??
>FUCK move the goalposts NOW NOW NOW

The game has 11 characters right now AND it's a tag game, bro

Btw, evo grand finals was Yasuo vs Darius.
That's what I see in all Youtube thumbnails.
And Yasuo won.
Nerf Yasuo, only him, and the game will be fine.

>>542507807
honestly the fact that there was only one person playing both characters is surprising. And he didnt even win
surely if these two are both so broken double dipping would be like assembling the infinity stones no?

>>542509279
They both do the same thing, so it's generally more beneficial to have a character that can supplement them in some way.

>game still randomly crashing after half a minute

Do I have to reinstall every time it happens?

>>542507440
I do this one where I gatling to S1 pickup with L and then aircombo finish
It's seriously terrible I need to lab a new one

>emerald
>queue for a minute
>get a match
>jinx selected
>wait out timer
>queue for a minute
>get a match
>ekko jinx selected
>wait out timer
>queue for a minute
>get a match
>yasuo teemo selected
>wait out timer
>queue for a minute
so actual fighting game characters just arent in this elo? or what happened to the braums, blitzcranks, illaois, darius, warwicks, vis
whered they go

>>542510240
>dodging in emerald
Ngmi Lil bro

>>542510240
woah dude is this you 10 years ago?
holy shit you're like my celebrity man can you sign something
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RkapfBYIfc

>>542507142
the only way to get out is to make a tag fighter that's not a real tag fighter like tokon is doing and they will never do it cause they will never stop hearing the cries of marvel fags
with negative penalty you can trick them to accept it
sadly this game community is overridden by retarded mvc and dbfz players, two of the worst fighters ever made

>>542511559
>DBFZ is le bad
tips fedora

>>542511340
isnt justin wong the fat asian that got famous after getting his ass kicked on stream and is still riding that wave a decade later

>>542511340
>this clip happens to anon
>he then comes here and complains that zoning is too strong and negative penalty needs to be in the game so that he cant get zoned anymore
I understand these retards now

In real fighting games you can't block in the air at all. Why does this Mickey Mouse™ game reward you with plus frames for blocking in the air?

They should have just stood still while I charge my full screen neutral skip move, I can't believe it doesn't work

>>542511780
trash ip for a fighting game with no character and playstyle variety (and i grew up with the manga/anime)
trash tagkuso with only rushdown chars and without even burst

>>542510240
Its piltover.....

>people complain that there are no real zoners
>zoner gets added
>meltdowns everywhere
You should have thought about what you asked for timmys

>>542507807
The person crying about Jinx is a literal homosexual anon just ignore the shitter

>>542511851
He's riding the wave of winning EVO more than any other player ever has, and he did in games that were actually competitive instead of NRS-slop.

So what's the optimal duo? Yasuo and?

I'm an Iron Darius using sidekick. How do I git gud?

My current game plan is to use 5M pulse until I win. If my opponent is blocking, I use 5M > 5H > S1 > 5H. I struggle to remember to always dash, anti-air, and when to use assists. Btw, which assist is good for Darius? I’m currently using Illaoi because some guy on YouTube said she was easy (I want to play Double Down eventually and thought it wouldbe good to get accustomed to the caracter), and her corner super with Darius’s bleed is disgusting. I’ll work on adding dash jump block to my gameplay. It seems like a really strong approach tool.

Am I on the right path?

>>542514529
Keep crying about how your character got nerfed while she wins more tournaments than ever shitkid

>>542516641
Sounds pretty good anon
Just focus on learning each individual system mechanic and when you should use them and you'll improve steadily
The moment you finally hit an anti-air or an airgrab on a jump spammer you'll never forget

>>542516641
You sound like a future rank climber, you've got the mindset down. Once you got the approach stuff down, you can worry about the other stuff, combos don't matter if you can't get a hit on someone. Good luck friend

>>542516641
you'll get hardstuck gold because Darius is unplayable tier bad
t. hardstuck gold 3 since closed beta with him

>>542516641
You're mechanically mature for your rank...

why the fuck do knockdowns have so much hitstun? You can skd someone, run fullscreen and still have time to hit them otg with a full combo. Pretty fucking bullshit if you ask me

>>542516598
There isn't a clear cut strongest team
You pick either yas or ekko and then basically anybody else and it'll do well if you abuse the synergies

>>542516598
yas ekko

>>542522794
You're just fucking dogshit, Darius is in Top 8 TNS constantly. He's not a top 4 character but he's really good regardless.

>>542526274
sounds like that dude is playing jugg though
darius isn't functional without an assist and there are some mus that he straight up doesn't get to play the game without one lol

>>542526470
This is true for anyone playing jugg
jugg is not playable

>>542526470
That's a juggernaut problem not a Darius problem

Is there a similar word to Oyakodon but with two sisters
Would be a good name for the jinx vi team

>>542527746
>>542528323
i guess. you could MAYBE get by with it before the nerfs but they really went too far with those and i say that as a jugg hater
(yasuo jugg is probably fine though lol)

I think I found a bug with Illaoi/Blitz. Since they killed my combo, I was trying to find something else.
When I handshake tag Blitz in and combo straight into air command grab, with a tentacle set up, there will be a long ass hitstun that you can combo after.
If you do any button before air command grab, they will flip out from the tentacle extension.
The combo if anyone want to try:
2M 5H 2S2 dash 5M 5H jump M H S1 land 5M 5H S2 (back assist) 5H S2 tag air command grab.

>>542528831
Actual gold shitter shitposts. What a fucking idiot.

The Teemo mirror match might be the most hype shit fighting games have ever done
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOtj-aqwxuI

>>542530058
ft5?

>>542523373
Thanks for the compliment. I played a lot of fighting games with my friends when I was a teenager, but I couldn’t convince my parents to buy PS Plus, so I never played online. I really enjoy watching FGC videos, stuff like Mr. Mixtape, Leon Massey, Core-A Gaming, SugarPunch, and TheoryFighter. I also watched two YouTube videos on how to get good specifically at 2XKO.

The reason I’m in Iron is probably because I’m stubborn. During my placement matches, I rematched both players I fought. The first one I lost twice. The second I lost the first match, won the second, and lost the third. Also, I didn’t play any casual matches with Darius beforehand. One of the two videos said to jump straight into placements. Also also, I don’t think mechanically mature is the right term, maybe strategically fits better. If I wanted to, I could probably play without using Pulse. I played DNF and completed all but the last Grappler combo trial, that small run input fucked me up. But it would be a hassle to try learning everything at once. A mechanically mature player would be someone doing parries, push blocks, and dash blocks while still in Iron. I know players like that exist, but I’ve never tried doing it myself.

Last thing guys. When do I use assist?

>>542530481
try not to fall asleep challenge

>>542530741
Assist has way too many usecases to list man.
For Darius you probably mostly want to use assist to make your blockstrings true.
But if you need to get in you can always do a trusty jump forwards call assist, if you need to get out you can do a trusty jump backwards call assist, you can attempt to jump over them call assist to make your crossup safe and get a sandwich going.
You can active tag out to bait bursts or jump ins, you can active tag in to close the distance, shit's literally endless.

A good idea is just to watch some pro pilot your team and see what they use their assist on. I was watching someone playing Teemo Ahri and they would call Teemo assist to extend the blockstring just a touch, ran in to extend the pressure with ahri S2, then reacted to the opponent jumping out and over the hitbox by active-tagging to Teemo and airgrabbing.

>>542531780
i would kill for one of my friends to get into fgs but if they played this team i seriously wouldn't run sets with them lol

>>542530741
>I really enjoy watching FGC videos, stuff like Mr. Mixtape, Leon Massey, Core-A Gaming, SugarPunch, and TheoryFighter. I also watched two YouTube videos on how to get good specifically at 2XKO.
Leon is a legit shitter and Core-A Gaming channel is just a retarded pseud
Nothing wrong with watching channels similar to those, just those two are pure garbage in reality
>The reason I’m in Iron is probably because I’m stubborn. During my placement matches, I rematched both players I fought.
Yeah you're supposed to rematch, it might not be actually beneficial for your placements but it's helpful for actual growth as you get a second or third chance to improve on stuff you definitely noticed in the former matches.
> A mechanically mature player would be someone doing parries, push blocks, and dash blocks while still in Iron.
To be fair both the pushblock and dash block aren't that great in this game and the applicable situations require some fore knowledge at this point till they tune the mechanics better. You're not missing out heavily at those ranks.
Parry can be helpful though, if you know something slow is coming, especially while you're forced to block like in a blockstring (similar to Darius's or Blitz's pull moves for example) you can use stand parry and get a full combo.
>Assists
Depends but generally to cover your ass. Illaoi's tentacle slam is a top tier screen control tool. The other move is also good for that but not as much, in return it generally lets you combo if they fuck up. You can also use it in pressure to make sure they sit the fuck down and take whatever you're dishing out, like if they try to jump out often to fill that gap, if you want to use a riskier move like applying bleed.

So how much do I have to do to get ranked to unlock? I already did about 10-15 casual sets and I still having hit level 3. I don't want to do anymore fucking casual.

>>542531854
>>542531780
You guys aren't welcome here for real, whiny baby shit like this is looked down upon and you can't normalize it here. It belongs on reddit at best.

>>542532294
>stop being mean about my character choice
no <3

>>542531914
>legit shitter
As a player or video maker?

What other tag games are there? like TRUE tag-games, that have done what you guys are talking about

>>542532929
---->
>>542511559

>>542532929
well hxh is dogshit from day 1 so not that and then they just killed dbfz with a new patch that ruined the game after the previous patch had ruined the game putting it legit at "as bad as hxh" levels. then there's bbtag but that game is ass on an intrinsic level so you could pick up mvc2 but there's only 5 characters in that game or you could check out umvc3 but it hasn't got netcode.

>>542532929
Skullgirls

>>542532772
>As a player or video maker?
Both, mostly the former

>>542533350
hahahahah

>>542532929
>that have done what you guys are talking about
What are we talking about?

>>542534240
"a tag game with short combos, good balance that isnt dominated by a handful of characters, that has neutral, where assists aren't too strong, and you don't get tod'd ever"

>>542534359
The fact that you used actual quotes instead of greentext for your hallucination is impressive. Everyone wants different stuff. I think this game is actually quite good if they fix the air blocking issues.

>>542534826
im funposting and making fun of the people who want those things in a tag game because no tag game has those things lol

>>542535164
Dariusfag you have to lurk 3 years before posting here
Maybe r*ddit is more to your speed

>>542535310
im sorry to say but you are talking to the wrong person re: amount of time wasted on this site lol

>>542530481
>The second Chris G gets any meter on Ahri he uses it all to set up mushrooms
Damn I forgot how this nigga used to play for a hot second there

>>542493485
>oh okay but that was 7 hours ago not the peak neither in Europe or NA so it will be much better lat-

i'm vanquisher in strive and i got placed in silver. This game is fucking incomprehensible and there is no neutral

Actually, unironically, how are you supposed to deal with Teemo's mushroom super
Close range or fullscreen it just feels unstoppable

>>542536154
well the entire point of the move is that there's literally and unironically nothing you can do about it

>>542536061
Brawwhalla has 307 and 10k on steam

>Play Teemo
>My own bush makes me drop my combo because now it's burning and hitting people
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I hate being a shitter

>>542536284
Brawhalla is also 11 years old and made by an actual small indie studio. 2XKO has just released and is made by one of the biggest gaming companies in the world.

>>542530741
>>542516641
yeah placements are kinda wonky, I feel like they should match you with 5 different people to get a better idea of your starting rank. I got placed in iron after going 1-4 rematching both times which was kinda demoralizing but it's really easy to climb to your "actual rank" in this game so don't worry about that
>My current game plan is to use 5M pulse until I win
Good plan, this is pretty much all I did on darius to get to emerald

>>542536509
>yeah placements are kinda wonky, I feel like they should match you with 5 different people to get a better idea of your starting rank.
Eh the matching isn't the real point, you doing it this early is
There's nothing real for it to base ranks on this quickly so you might've had a better experience waiting a week or two

>Thought Jinx/Teemo would be a cool pair because they are both zoners with traps
>They have 0 synergy
God fucking damn it, this isn't working out the way I was expecting it to. Who do I put next to Teemo then

>>542536878
ekko (2x timewinder) illaoi (2x tentacle slam) or yasuo (he's just busted as fuck lol)

One thing I enjoy about Teemo is that his traps actually don't fucking get clipped by that gook Yasuo's wall/stab, unlike Jinx.

>>542432429 (OP)
Ekko players should kill themselves. The world would be a better place.

this really is the league of legends of fighting games

>>542537673
My time!

it's up (and it's more than evo france for most games)

how do i learn to enjoy tag figthers instead of getting mad at every interaction?

>>542538061
>an invite-only event for a huge prize pool
noticing

>>542538130
im about to make a pretty bold statement but i think it's okay to just not enjoy tag fighters and move on to something else
i tried to trick myself into enjoying sf6 for like 700 hrs but at the end of it all, all i can say is "that's legitimately one of the worst video games ever made"
don't be like me

>>542530481
The timmy fears this video of tagkino

>>542538840
Timmy doesn't need to fear it as this is clearly suboptimal and weak, there's a reason why all the top 8s look the way they do

>>542538061
Sajam isn't being paid by Riot btw

i still don't really like how the finishers make your character explode into dust. it's too mortal kombat.

>>542536284
Strive has 238 and 1570 on steam
Dbfz 124 to 2134
Grand blue 56 to 427
Sf6 1.3k to 6984
Tekken 1.7k to 4860

>>542536154
Walk forward and block

>>542539679
this is what they told you to do against goldlewis drone in strive btw and that game didn't have assist mix

>>542531330
everyone when sf5

this game is actually dogshit because of the balance. the best characters have some of the most cancer zoning, or ridiculous conversion with OTG moves, or fucking both. and all of them benefit from assists because of that to convert into literally any combo from anywhere on the screen. playing one of those characters and then playing literally any other character is beyond night and day.

>>542540390
The worst part is that the dev have favorites and they outright say so. Like an anon already said, Yasuo will be top tier until EOS.
And this is nothing new, they did the same on LoL and LoR.

>>542540390
unfortunately the game's cooked because the devs play favorites openly and without shame
ekko will be throwing 2x timewinder assist until the game dies

>>542540506
>>542540579
riot is going to do two things as a response.
1: nothing
2: power crept the fuck out of everything
i don't know how you develop a game for like 7 years with a bazillion public and secret private alphas and sti8ll manage to bungle this shit. and its not even fun kusoge like mvc3. its legitimately more like fucking dnf duel level of shit.

>>542540792
because the people that are helping balance the game feel the same way. sajam is a gargantuan ekkofag and he's one of the voices they listen to the most. i'm sure some other e-celeb is downplaying yasuo to them all day every day. remember the closed beta patchnotes literally said "yasuo's mix was too honest so we're buffing it."

>>542538061
More than half of 2xko's twitch viewership is just Sajam rn. Imagine where it would be without the shilling.

>>542541232
>2xko currently at 4.3k
>sf6 currently at 1.4k
uhhhhhhh still higher than sf6 i guess! :)

>>542537891
I just need a duo queue up mode so I can yell at my computer for my partner being a shitter and the experience is complete

>>542534240
I was asking about this >>542511559 , what other tag-game, fits what this dude yaps so much about, since i don't play tag-games

>>542541595
they really do need that shit lol
i mostly meant in terms of how fucking long each set is. a single match can go 5 minutes if each round is long and it goes to game 3

>>542541404
>LoL at 100k
>Valorant at 40k

I wonder what the player retention needs to be for Riot to keep it going?

>>542541404
2xKami just too good, Slime figther can't keep up

>>542541794
big boy moving em all by himself. very strong

I bet all you one and done fags spammed ff15, fucking losers

>>542542179
>problem?

>>542542179
but i've never even played final fantasy 15

>>542542179
champs?

viewership is a very minor way to rate whether games are alive or dead. but riot games itself typically is helped more than any other game company in having a strong streaming and youtube fanbase. nearly every game that survived had a strong viewership base early on. the one that didnt, failed. lmao runeterra.

>>542446118
Sorry man, no one cares about supports. There aren't enough lesbian ones with bare feet for Riot Games waste artists time on them.

Here's your Storm function, bro

>>542535706
>All versions of Minato, Adult Sasuke, Raikage
nah

this game is so fucking shit it makes me sad

I somehow haven't faced many Ekkos. What does timewinder or whatever do and why does everyone hate it so much?

>>542544936

Fast as fuck projectile that lingers on screen and freezes you for an eternity om hit, leading into a full combo into 8 way mix.

>>542544936
Really nigga
It's the single strongest projectile in the game, it's on a rushdown nigga when there's two zoners and a keepout nigga in the game

>>542544795
shit meant to post this in /sfg/

>>542539779
>>542536154
You can jump over it, if you're fast enough you can run into range and then back out and dodge it but thats very character dependent, if you grab the teemo you can invul through the mushroom explosion, it is pretty hard though

>>542545572
what?

>>542544936
He genuinely does take some amount of skill to do proper mix and combos so you won't see him that much below emerald.
He just plays neutral in a very lame and tilting way that feels like it doesnt belong on a supposedly high skill character

So theres no bad characters in this game but there are still overpowered ones? Is that the current consensus?

>>542536154
Call assist and let them eat it for you
Even if your assist is dead
Human shields always work

this game is so fucking CORNY
mickey mouse ahh party masher

>Niggers acting like enchanters wouldn't work in a fighting game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMv21Q5IQPQ

>>542546226
Ekko is busted because of one move, Yasuo is the Johnny function. Everyone else is good but worse than them. Redditards will never be okay as long as Ekko and Yasuo are playable.

>>542548027
ekko has more mix than fucking i-no and kills in two touches lol, timewinder is not the only thing that makes him busted

retards seethe about yasuo all day
meanwhile i have no problem with him
while illaoi is the niggerest masher faggot character i've seen in fighting games in a long time

>>542548607
>ekko gets close
>starts doing his shit and gets a hit on me
>"welp. guess I gotta learn."
>check what pros do
>also get hit by his shit
huh

>>542548728
UUUHHH
AAAAAHHH
EMOTION!!!!!
KEEP GOING!!!! *thud thud PAMPAM* *tentacle strangles you* *rape begins*

>>542548728
thats because yasuo is the level 2 shitter filter (level 1 are the big bodies and/or scrub stompers like blitz and braum) because he has really good neutral, level 3 is getting put in a mixup for free because of illaoi

>>542548963
and all levels bow down to the full screen ekko that has knowledge of his timewinder input

>>542548728
>meanwhile i have no problem with him
team and rank?

I got to platinum 2 and started just jerking off to warwick knotting porn is this normal

>>542549542
Who's getting knotted?

>>542549893
me of course

>>542550026
>your favs aren't in arcane
>riot will NEVER buff them
feels bad man

>>542550171
if you like braum and blitz then you just have bad taste

this game is really fun when no one knows how to do long combos and rancid mixups

>>542548963

Yasuo and Ekko are badly designed. They're so stupid you can't nerf just one thing and call it a day. They'll stay broken.
They zone better than zoners, play neutral better than neutral centric characters, mix you up better than mixup characters, do damage better than big bodies, offer support better than support characters that are bad on point, and so on.
Supposedly they scrappd Katarina because they gave her everything. But the retarded devs forgot about Yasuo and Ekko.

>>542549980
Then no, that's knot normal

>>542550382
>every character but braum represented
...

>>542547973
>cast your ultimate life magic
>fighting game pauses and becomes a dating sim speedrun
>if you max out the relationship you win the set instantly
sounds broken

>>542551404
they forgot to buff him after he ruined the second alpha lab

uninstalled.
this game is simply not a real fighting game

>>542551889
these dudes can not resist downplaying their mains lol

>>542552016
The second was a hypnotical list about super tag being removed, the first one is his actual list
He's maining Ahri/Teemo right now

>>542551614
sounds similar to Rise in p4a with her rhythm game super except you dont win instantly

>>542551814
meant to post this in /tekgen/

>>542551814
Same, too much mickey mechanics in this party game, even by tag game standards.

>>542552357
im fine with recoveries, im fine with fuses, but air blocking and a retarded comeback mechanic like fury? nah im out. people literally backdash superjump 24/7 and you cant antiair so the game boils down to blockstring>call assist>coinflip for game
its such a retarded ass game, its mvc3 level of stupid

>>542552857
>you cant antiair
nigga just airgrab them

>>542552945
that worked so well against wawa

>>542552945
upback is whats being talked about and you cannot airgrab vs upback

>>542493726
do you know about that meme that goes like
>thing: :(
>thing, Japan: :D
it's like that but completely unironically
i guess it is because DBFZ is a much more air based game (airdasher) while 2XKO is much more grounded which makes it look lame

>>542552857
The existence of Fury alone is proof that the devs don't care about this game being respected like they pretended during pre-launch with those "unlock the fun" etc it was made from the ground up as a remedial casualoid first fighting game bait

>>542554072
>unironically using "remedial"
rog

>>542554072
the fact they took xfactor from mvc3 and then went 'actually this isnt mickey enough lets make it so its also a burst, oh and its safe on block and onhit it gives a TOD'
this game is so fucking stupid lmao

>>542553383
Yes you can though the hitbox is fuckhuge

>ekko is not dripping he's token black guy
chrisg is going to get banned from events

>>542554346
no, you can't

>>542553838
meant for >>542493630

I quit too, maybe I'll try liking this game again once they add better characters and iron out these mechanics

>>542554561
yes you can nigga I just did it against a teemo

>>542555048
he was ass then lil bro j.h will stuff the living fuck out of an airgrab attempt every single time and then you're eating a combo

>>542554326
It’s why you never let fanboys be in charge of anything. They have zero impulse control.
I’m sure there’ll be a desperate attempt to completely change how all the game mechanics work and maybe make it 1v1 before the game gets EOS’d

>>542555048
he either didnt superjump and didnt press anything
go into training and try ngga

Whats the disadvantage in using autocombos? Seems to work out for a lot of players but I wanna know whats sacrificed by only having to hit one or two buttons repeatedly

>>542511340
growing up is understanding Justin was in the wong here

>Unoptimal to play on pad or stick or normal hitbox (without 999 buttons) because of how many keybinds you need
>If you play on keyboard the small keys are a pain in the ass unless you have tiny fingers

What the fuck was this game made for

>>542556718
>how many keybinds you need
stop spreading this meme

Do you think 2xko would've worked better if they only allowed 1 player per character and you had to have a teammate to play? When I first heard about it that was the most hype thing to me, and then they bitched out and allowed 1 player to control both characters (or probably always planned it that way desu).

>>542556718
Dude you need like 6 buttons max, everything else is just combinations of what you already have.
L M H
S1S2T

>>542555216
>>542555497
>hes upbacking so i cant anti air
>hes j.Hing so i cant airgrab
make up ur mind nigga

>>542556493
It's not as fun. That's a major part of it. If you don't like combos tag games aren't for you.

ebin :DDDD

NAbros, would you be interested in a tourney? wouldn't mind hosting one for a small cash prize

>>542558219
as soon as they fix air blocking yes

>>542545164
also has 0 recovery for whatever reason
if you try to jump over it you get AA'd lol

I might be dogshit but I won

>>542558436
>vi/teemo
holy bastion of honesty

>>542558219
>for a small cash prize
I'd advise against that.
Do it just for the fun.

>>542556493
There is none.

>>542556493
It does like 10-20% less damage iirc
Also they're simple ass combos you could learn in like 10 minutes

>>542552016
>The sodomite doesn't know who Chris G is
Fuck off retard, he's not a downplayer, he's a serious complainer
He complains about EVERYTHING

If I whiff another 5H I will off myself in real time.

>>542560060
God I hate Darius and that stupid autocombo

>>542551889
What makes Jinx so bad? In his eyes

>>542560060
>>542560201
Also, assist body block should be reduced holy fuck there's nothing more annoying than that.

My Vi kinda sick nasty no
Tell me otherwise

I'm getting turbo knowledge checked by this decent Braum I keep running into in ranked
If I try to poke him in neutral he either does shield assist and I die or he armors through my pokes and I also die, which makes me play overly passive in neutral and I get cornered and rushed down
How do I deal with this?

>>542433416
This retarded iron level player doesn't realize he has a full screen super by the way and can make himself safe with warwick superassist

>>542561527
actually he and I are emerald 1 elo

>>542452848
>DBFZ is better than this crap
Was*
Currently the game is mickeymouse with the past few patches.

>>542457248
>Only one pro out of several that uses Yasuo/Ekko
You're outing yourself a shitter, they're good obviously but support characters are invaluable that's why the top 2 are rarely seen together. Kill yourself.

>>542457568
The brown Ahri with black hair is sex as fuck
Might learn her just for it

>>542464335
Tag games and anime games have done this for millenia dude go back to Dix.

>>542453242
>>542562034
Watching Twitter clips isn't the same as actually playing the game. DBFZ is in the best state it's ever been.

>>542475497
Strangely enough I have zero Z E R O interest o play duos. I've played every fighting game ever solo, even smash. Unless you're super coordinated with your partner I don't see the point

Does this game have a single player mode? I can't find anything other than training

>skin available for unlocnk in the store
>go to store
>it isnt there

Am I doing something wrong here? Do they bot want my money?

>>542453242
>that new patch just killed the game harder than it ever was
>Game gets 2k player peaks on Steam
Absolute retard.

>>542561464

Unironically git gud. Forget about winning. Fighting him is a great opportunity to improve.

>>542561464
time to lab lil nigga

I want to give this game another chance. I like Vi do any of the other characters play similar to her? I liked her rushdown

>>542560497
Refer to the image that's replying for the actual list
He thinks the super tag is really strong but she just doesn't do anything that well and realistically none of the characters are actually horribly unplayable even lower on the list, it's just that the top 3 are too fucking dominating at their current states

>>542563958
WW

>>542545593
Where's frosty faustings

>>542551889
>Chris downplaying Teemo and Ahri even post-buff
Yea end this nigga.
Ahri can go next to Illaoi
Right underneath put Teemo, then Darius
Then next tear Warwick Vi

>>542565157
>WW
>Last tier
>Can't even list all the characters in the game when there's only 11 champs
Bruh tier post

>>542554945
>iron out these mechanics
Which mechanics aren't ironed out pray tell

I can’t believe KAMI6 mogged 2xissy like this……

>>542558436
>Self-proclaimed dogshit
>Buys $100 skin
Checks out.

i don't think i will ever truly enjoy this game until they tone down these retarded long combos. I even get bored when i'm the one doing them

it's just...filler, you always do the same optimal routes over and over

>>542562824
its hard to understand how fun it is until you've played it but there really is something sick about it man
give it a try with a bro

Funny challenge for the Yasuo and Ekko downplayers: rank what you think are the best 13 teams in the game, and let's see how many of them doesn't have Yasuo or Ekko

>>542562813
>DBFZ is in the best state it's ever been
Yea dude I love my fullscreen trunks 2M and UIku teleports and ginyu shitflinging and being able to convert everywhere off anything and everyone always into 80% and nappa and gogetablue still best character in the game kill yourself

>>542565351
I didn't say last tier, I'm only listing the ones I had objections with. Fill in the blanks nerd.

>>542565986
>Yasuo and Ekko downplayers
Literally who

>>542565567
Man most combos are not ToDs, those are rare. For standard combos they are not that long you must come from street fighter seriously.

>>542562034
Just got off DBFZ after playing several hours. Game is literally amazing right now. Characters that needed buffs got them. I still like 2XKO more because superdash is and always was a dumb mechanic, but the air blocking issues that everyone keeps bringing up are really bad.

>>542563243
3k player peaks anon, 2k right now!

>>542566953
feels good to be a 2xkami chad

>>542566953
Punk was literally always fucking terrible at the game and got embarrassed by people who are trash at traditional fighters. He doesn't get it.

>>542566780
>superdash is and always was a dumb mechanic
Yea you don't play. No real dbfz player ever thought this and repeatedly refuted when casual jivers said this nonsense.

>>542565998
Drink bleach you utter shitter. They literally nerfed trunks' 2m too. You can't convince me the days of snapback meta and gt goku on every team was a better state for the game than what we have now

Fuck the solo fuses.

>>542567245
You're the minority. Everyone has thought neutral superdash is a dumb mechanic and there was huge hype when replacements like Roshi's came out. You're allowed to like it because it's an iconic part of the game but it's dumb and introduces random bullshit that doesn't belong in a competitive fighter.

>>542567230
He made top 8 a few times there
He made top 8 in MvC3, BBTAG and MvC I multiple times too

>>542568114
Of course he did because he's godlike at traditional fighting games. Those fundamentals still apply a lot. But he's consistently never been among the best of the best because it's a different kind of game and he doesn't get it.

Yasuo and Ekko backdash spam playstyle wouldn't bother me as much if these characters didn't also have the best rushdown in the game at the same time

>>542457370
oh but when they did it with reina everyone clapped

>>542569142
Reina is just another Mishima kid when there's like 5-6 of them already

HOLY FUCK
We robbed this man
This guy got hit by my super assist mushroom exploding off the screen
LMAO

>>542569261
thats disingenuous, she was literally supposed to be anime girl heihachi until they brought him back

>>542569142
chat he thinks i don't hate reina
i mean i don't have strong feelings about her one way or another she's lame as fuck but almost everyone in tekken is so that's whatever

>>542559442
hey for YOUR information i grew up watching him spam shit as morrigan in mvc3
never watched him outside of tourney bc why would i actively seek that shit out, though, so i had no idea he was like that lol

>>542561332
Porygon Z ass moment

>>542566780
>superdash is and always was a dumb mechanic
nigga it's fucking DRAGONBALL

>>542565567
Honestly I actually love having longish combos in my games
I think they help make the schizo speed of the game feel managable. When I was playing grubble I would get mentalboomed and owned if someone put a lot of pressure on me.
I think it's just because there isn't any downtime to actually realize what you're getting hit by. So it was like a game where I felt slow as shit and then I would just get stuck in the corner and die without being able to do anything

When I get mixed in tuko I have like 4-8 seconds to think about how I got hit and usually I can block whatever it is the next time they try it.
Obviously there's a limit to this, but I think the game stays pretty squarely within it, except for Yasuo

>people keep complaining about airblocking being so broken
>I try jumping out of warwick's overhead and blocking it in the air
>he's stupid plus and rapes me
fuck you retards you dont know shit

>>542571076
there needs to be a middle ground
i think strive kinda nailed the right length, around 10 hits. This one goes a bit too long, especially with all the dumb otg pickups you can do

i fucking hate warwick
i can tolerate long combos they are hard to do, this dumb mutt just does S2>S2>S2>S2 otg 2S2 S2>S2>S2>S2

>>542571261
which overhead?
>4S2
just parry it its like frame 20 are you old or something
>2S2
2H beats all options, and you can parry the 2S2.M

>>542571076
so holding pressure in Granblue was too much for you but 2XKO pressure into mixups is fine?????
I'm sorry but this makes no sense
It's like saying SF6 was too fast for you so you went to play a slower game like +R

>>542571337
Meh even strive was too short for my tastes
I love otging so I really can't complain
Getting a shroom loop into the otg into the tag launcher just feels too sick
>>542572136
Yeah
I just get like, overwhelmed easily
If I have to make a lot of decisions in a short period of time then I get cancer.

If I have time to think about what raped me then I can make the right choice given time. That's why this parry shit is so good for me in this game, I just need to rip that shit once and I'm chill

ive been keeping up with leddit, honeymoon's ending for the normies and shills
game was getting heat so they went into ultra shill mode but it's becoming harder and harder for them to defend now, threads about backdash spam meta and yasuo/ekko keep popping up

why cant i super at the end of combos sometimes?

>>542571813
Yeah I know what I'm SUPPOSED to do
I was just mashing jump because 4chan told me it beat every option he could go for idk
>>542572136
Also I want to elaborate a bit, if I make a bad decision and eat a combo in grubble or SF I have to make another decision almost instantly, because I'm still sitting in the corner, and then if I get hit AGAIN it's just fucked for me I'm mentalboomed.
If I make a bad decision and eat a combo in tuko I have 8 seconds to reflect upon how dumb whatever I got hit by is, and if I get hit AGAIN then I have like 16 seconds.
So even though the thing I get hit with is like 3-4x more fucked up and cheap it's really only coming half or even less as often.

If that doesn't make any sense to u that's fair but that's just how my brain works idk

>>542571337
I think Granblue or Strive do it best
However, it's not what those games do right, it's what 2XKO does wrong
In those games the routes you have available and consequentially the length and damage of the combo will vary by your resources and your starter
2XKO feels like you're always just routing into the same optimal regardless of anything. At most what changes is if you have meter you go into super 3 instead of super 1

>>542573210
the players here suck dick at the game there's a reason there is no lobbies (they either don't play or don't want to embarrass themselves)

>>542573270
>regardless of anything
they kinda fixed this with the meter changes
Going for limit strikes now is actually rewarding so having at least two combos one for damage and one for limit is pretty good.
Also Teemo at least needs to know like 5 different combos.
You need to freestyle that shit if the guy you're hitting flies over a mushroom all your routes get fried

does it show your winrate anywhere

>>542572537
>the honeymoon phase
you definetly didnt go on leddit
They were meltying about being too poor to buy the arcane skins for like 4 days straight bro
what honeymoon

>>542465328
>>542465689
>>542466910
This is the real reason why they should severely tone down damage.
Let the TONS OF DAMAGE for when you hit that sweet happy birthday. the damage is going to feel more earned, it's going to feel better

>>542575152
they already did severly tone down the damage you retard it was alpha lab 2 and it was DOGSHIT
The damage is totally in line with how the game is made right now.

The REAL issue you have with the game isn't the damage at all, it's with it being a round system which necessitates the high damage and fury being stupid enough that you would never choose to afk and surrender rounds.

>>542572618
wdym

>>542538061
apparently this isnt the only tourney he's doing this is just a duo-only one
this level of shilling has to be studied

>>542576906
he has held sajam slam tournaments for SF6, T8... and 2XKO
beyond parody I ain't even mad

>>542577053
grubsisters...why does daddy sajam hate us...

>>542573331
at work rn but ft5 in like an hr?

>>542577132
yeah sure

is this a good combo for solo braum?

>>542577940
You do like 50% before super and get your buff, of course it is

NA lobby time, lets see whos actually larping and who plays the game

lobby code is
yc287vzd

>>542568818
I want to play Ekko and plan on learning him (I'm gonna get that Arcane skin at some point in the future, however many years it takes) but I can't fucking imagine playing him or Yasuo like a bitch when they have everything

>>542578184
ok that IGN's p good

>Teemo into Ekko
>he tries to timewinder spam
>I shit out two mushrooms and two rocks for every one he throws
>they dont even break the mushrooms
>eventually he just has to run at me
this is so chill
when you outlame Ekko it's really quite a fun matchup

>>542577132
champs?

>>542577226
>>542579161
eating dinner rn on in like 20

>>542580428
i play darius/ww and darius/blitz

>>542579161
omw

>>542577226
goin 2 the lobby

>hourglass girl
>pear girl
>stick girl
>muscle girl
next: little girl

>>542556687
kekk

>>542579161
still going

This game has the most unsatisfying tech chases

game dead already? matchmaking takes way too long

is this the kog general?
do you guys like KOG?

>>542584476
what is kog

>>542583889
still up?

>>542580527
>>542581843
i forgot mb down now though

>>542583891
It's satisfying if you have a throw combo
Playing Ahri and getting almost nothing out of it feels pretty bad but doing a jinx boing otg is pretty nice

>>542585702
>>542585841
ill open a lobby but my comp bsods sometimes lol
js88v4rd

>>542582541
can't wait

>>542584118
not for me
NA gm

>>542585924
ggs bro idk if you were typing after but i got stuck on the machine and couldn't do anything so i closed the lobby

>>542585924
so im just confused man
warwick vi are both supposedly good characters but i feel like combined they lose to both archetypes in this game, being either gigantic range made safe with assists or projectiles made safe with assists. i dont see what i can even do on block with how tiny all my buttons are, while you can keep pressure with your 5M that keeps me on block even after death. then its just a fuckin slog trying to ever get in against zoners, and even WHEN i get in i need to read 4 different defensive options to STAY in for even a little bit, only to get mediocre damage until blood frenzy pops. i dont see the vision.

i felt like i was doing better the more i was sitting full screen waiting for you to approach me. ggs, it at least helped me learn parries a bit better

>>542577127
grub?
he hasn't held one for fucking strive
he's a giga Jew shill

>>542585667
>>542584476
I type "xkog" when Ctrl Fing this general in the log

Illaoi's j.M shouldn't hit cross-up, the fuck

>>542590718
first off ggs. the matches were a lot closer than the final score made it look desu, easy enough for me to say but i do feel it's true even if they might have felt rough for you
i find that warwick is somewhat middle of the pack, but his 5m is pretty big and should help you get in. you can do 5m>slide>call assist for combo, or you can do 5m>more if you want>dive for the overhead
as far as dealing with my characters, yeah, you will generally do better when you play lame vs. darius, he is pretty slow and escapable and you can tag him with an assist when he's running in to try and start shit
one thing i do see vi players a lot is to add a bunch of swaying back and forth at full screen. when you sway out, if you see me press a button to try and clip you you can sway back in and hit a button
for warwick/vi, there is actually a combo where you start vi's ground pound super and then tag to ww and spam his 2s2 which lets you build a ton of blood, and that might help you get blood pops more often. overall if you can find more routes that build blood with ww you'll be good on that i'm sure

overall i feel like you played super solid and good, you just need more time to get used to playing double down. you had me sweating for most of the matches we played and once you get a little more exp i'm pretty sure you will be cooking people like crazy

>>542591721
it's mad random, some chars have multiple crossups and some ONLY get a crossup on the universal one

>>542590718
Darius is a schizo character design
He is straight up a zoner
You don't want to approach him with literally any character, even Yas because he will rape you with his privileged god buttons
He just happens to also get zoned. Vi Ww is probably his best matchup because he is definitively the raper against both champs

>>542591850
>>542590718
also: another thing. if you pushblock the h in darius' lmh, then if i do 6s2 it'll whiff and you'll get a FAT fucking punish off of it. if i did 5s2 then you can't punish, but lmh>6s2(the quick vertical slash)>5s2 is a true blockstring, whereas lmh>5s2>5s2 you can parry the last hit

>tfw you start hitting the partial charges
woohoo

>>542592712
vi is actually really difficult for me. you basically have to completely play the game on her terms. if she decides you're not getting anywhere near her then you're not

>>542593858
gj i always believed in you

Well at least the offline launcher works if I have memory leak crap
Also how cursed is juggernaut/sidekick jinx, I was playing against the cpu and getting my shit kicked in, and no assists felt really good to use

>>542594889
that's cool at least
jugg/sidekick are generally meme tier but they're great for easing in and learning 1 character at a time

annoyed because now that i've been going back to darius/blitz, that blitz skin i wasn't even thinking about before is looking damn tasty

vi is so fucking awful
she has stubby normals in a game where yasuo, darius and illaoi exist

>>542597912
why are you pressing 5m when you can be pressing dash 5m or sway l

>>542597912
I like her with Teemo though
Being stubby doesnt matter when they're running at you the whole time
She does have the best jab in the game, I've really felt that shit just wins

>>542599948
she's so mobile and you can literally cross the entire screen in 2 frames and punch, i really dont know why anyone would complain about vi being stubby... maybe their dash button isn't bound

been playing braum/darius but I always have this feeling that I would be better of if I dumped one of them and added ekko instead, and that feels pretty bad.
warwick seems pretty cool also, but I'm not sure what to pair him with. I mostly see him with vi or ekko (as usual).
was playing yasuo before and I can do most of his hard stuff but he just feels so fucking busted that I don't even want to pick him.
having a character crisis type of personality is extra annoying when you need to pick two characters holy shit.

>>542602272
ekko is always going to be there tempting you but if you're too honorable to pick yasuo and chimp out on people, you're also probably too honorable to pick ekko and win by backdashing and pressing 2x assist timewinder lol

>>542602375
yeah I think I'm going to lock in braum and darius for a while, possibly learn warwick/vi on the side. I don't know a lot of league characters but caitlyn was hot as fuck in arcane so I hope they add her.

>>542602693
the nice part about this game is that characters don't take super long to learn, so once you've got a few under your belt you can cycle through teams and just have a good time esp if you're playing casually. of course you'll always have that one team that feels like your ranked tryhard team, but generally every champ has at least one sick ass thing they can contribute to every other champ
i think 2xko is really wonderful for that

Anoter day, another 2xKami WON day

>>542603964
2xKAMI
2xKINO
2xKINGS

Wait you can't even see inputs in replays? the ""devs"" really did just focus on combos and nothing else

>>542605867
the replays are pretty barebones, which is in fact disappointing
i have faith that they'll listen to players and improve them but the focus is definitely on just "sick clip bro"

I'm done with 2XKUSO. I'm going back to KAMI6.

Not a good look

Clayton, how does it feel to see 2xKami so sucsessful, when you said from the start that it would be DOA? All that yapping, and you STILL LOST, again.

>>542597912
Literally her only problem is the universal air blockstun problem. She's fine otherwise.
t. Vi player

>the devs tuned air blockstun individually for every move instead of having a consistent system where you can always know the frame data from an interaction
>they left it so that a ton of specials are even more minus if your opponent blocks it in the air
Bro... what?

retarded gamewarring aside i really don't see the game being able to sustain itself if it doesn't appeal more to casuals and for sure it cannot do it with the current gameplay

the way the 2xko twitter account writes screams desperately trying hard to be seen as "cool" and totally not the mouthpiece of a giant corporation

>>542614040
Turns out they're not actual game devs but just fans and players that managed to scam Riot for 10 years

>>542614379
you apparently don't know about riot games
>"You put a lot of effort into Chrono shift, but I assure you the Chrono break is coming"

>>542614351
It will never appeal to casuals, it's impossible at this point unless they scratch a big part of the game.

I think it's fine. This game can stay as the sweatlord game, after all Tokon will probably grab all the "new to the tag games" players by being more friendly, slower, less mechanics heavy etc.

But still 2XKO needs to fix some of its competitive shit. No OP as fuck characters above everyone else, no retarded shit like air blocking working that way and so on.

Riot I will buy one of your stupid skins if you fix air blocking

>start having controller issues
>opponent proceeds to beat me to an inch of my life
>goes to the other side of the screen and starts pressing down down like this is EVO or some shit
>40 seconds in I fix my shit
>press down down to start back on
>he launches a projectile to finish the match
I'm not sure if I should be thankful or ask why bother at that point

>>542620821
He thought you were raging and being a baby. I do the same stuff. Just move on, there's no good way to communicate mid match.

>>542577940
Soloing characters in this game feels like a mistake. That said I am noticing a lot of people dont seem to know how to deal with Braums shit.

How do I kill my tag partner in training mode so I can test shit with fury?

>>542625368
sidekick

What are the 2 easiest characters? Warwick & Illaoi?

the game would actually be more balanced if it was 3v3. shit just kind of works when you can have the two guys you actually want to play + a good projectile/utility assist.

>>542620821
You stopped moving, common courtesy is to stop until you can prove you can move again.

>>542626689
Darius and Warwick

KAMIKEN

>>542631049
That's kinda sad considering AK is probably THE most popular nigga in the series, he was 3rd most played across like 50-60 characters despite being a season 2 dlc in Tekken 7 too

Darius shitters malding at the possibility of being viable but just being ass at the game

>>542631818
You're in no position to act superior, slop eater.

>>542632201
>Jinx literally less represented than a real unironic day 1 character
She's so broken bros....

Who is the best effort to success ratio character? Meaning who is the most simple character but still top tier?

>>542632715
ekko

>>542619492
You nigga are the only one I've seen yap about airblocking this much
None of the people playing 8 hours of this game every day seem to give a shit
They care about super tag, yasuo and timewinder way the fuck more

>>542632715
Illaoi probably
Yasuo isn't that far behind and it's really only because illaoi is so crazy braindead

>>542626923
3v3 is generally good for team variety yeah
But idk man I think having 6 niggas on the screen with handshake tagging on the table sounds like an absolute cornfest
I think it'd be fun as fuck though

>>542635109
More than one person cares about it and is posting about it

>>542637382
nah nigga its you
Show me a single complaint outside of this thread and I'll concede though

Ahri Milkers

you can't convince me this makes sense

>>542632472
That's with sponsored streamers, game is dead on arrival

>>542638730
a fighting game cannot survive without sex characters

>>542637471
It's not just him at all, the reality is there are just very few people that understand FGs enough to articulate the problem. I guarantee you this though, the number of people that can feel the problem while they play is higher than that. There are likely a ton of people that eat shit when certain specials get air-blocked and they don't get why. This kind of special case nonsense that isn't consistent across the game's design (with maybe a few deliberate exceptions) makes an already hard genre even harder to learn.

Formerly Iron Darius here. Yesterday, I talked about my struggles with the game and got some good advice. Today, I want to give a follow-up. But before that, a question: does this count as avatar fagging?

I reached Bronze 2 yesterday and learned a lot. I achieved some of my goals,mainly to dash more, anti air more, and learn when to use assists. I wouldn’t say I’m good at any of these yet, but I definitely improved. I also started using dash-jump block and throwing out raw Super 1 as a whiff punish.

An interesting observation: players in Iron actually played way better than in Bronze. Also, a random guy asked to duo with me. With him, I played against a really good player, he trashed me, but we managed to steal a game. Felt really good.

>>542637471
>>542640381
I dont considtently whine about this but I can confirm that I also don't like how it works right now

>>542640612
Avatarfagging requires using an avatar for starters. You can be a recurring poster with a pseudo identity but you should avoid identifying with a consistent name when posting unless you want to lower the quality of the thread.

wtf, he told me 2M>2H in to jcJ2H(H) works!!!

>>542641036
Maybe it's either 2M(1) or maybe partial charge on the j.2H, try both

>>542641190
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVqFNIALFA4
is where i saw the combo

>>542640381
Idk, I’d agree if it were consistent across the cast but the literal only egregious example is Vi S1. Seems to me to just be some weird overnerf to Vi rather than a failing of game design.
Warwick is always more plus when I block his swings in the air, staying grounded to parry darius specials is always the correct play, it’s not a pervasive mechanic it’s just one niche counterplay. None of the streamers seem to even know that this exists not even the Vi players

>>542638290
It's wack as fuck, even if you 2h something which is a dedicated anti air you are generally fucked because your answer for air block instead of a hit has to be very different and worse yet not every character even has a good follow up against air block so you can be screwed either way
Teemo can set traps and Yasuo can just go into stance for example

>>542642493
It is present in other lariats and some other grounded specials, it's just that you're less likely to get into such a situation

this game is unironically too black for my taste
i thought it would appeal to a more white or asian demographic being lol and all. White nerds, even troon ala strive are more acceptable, asian savants, asian egirls, instead it's just full of loud mahvel niggers.
I don't like that, don't wanna be part of it

>>542642493
Warwick's 2H is -8 when blocked in the corner leaving you open to a punish if you don't special cancel. That's opposite to everyone's expectations.

>>542638290
For the love of god take it somewhere else. Reddit, Discord, whatever.

>>542643213
no but you can help put an end to my reign of terror by petitioning Riot to fix it

Illaoi's lv3 super, the invincible reversal that deals 50% by itself has a 5f startup btw
That's faster than the fastest jab in the game

>>542643181
Okay? and it’s -9 normally, so it’s more plus, not more negative. That’s not any different from how Marvel works

>>542643382
Only if you shill for Leona and Morde alongside me

>>542643438
Doesnt every single level 3 has full invul start up you’re supposed to just mash them
Gotta throw the low elos a bone when they spend 0 meter the whole game

>>542643848
None of them are that fast
It's literally the only single digit ult alonside Teemo

>>542643597
Don't fall for the false flag posts please.
>>542643771
Deal.

>>542643771
Leona should be like Hazama/Ms Marvel in that she moves around with her sword projectile across the stage. Hire me, Riot.

>>542643438
Goofy. I guess it's to make saving meter more appealing but every illaoi will just level 2 super you in the corner free setplay and kill you way before it

>>542642493
I had it happen on Blitz, it is not isolated. The ability to notice it is.

1k less than sf6 and tekken

the air block schizo isn't wrong you know
when playing you're probably going to notice something is wrong, that something is more scrambly than it should be, but knowing exactly WHAT is wrong is a whole other beast
In Granblue if you input a DP on wake up, depending on the combination of buttons you input it would not be F1 invul
this was only discovered when people MODDED in a frame meter, they even thought it was a frame meter bug at first
can you imagine how many people wake up dped, got hit and didn't know why?

>>542645381
Forgot pic

>>542645381
I wish I knew how mad you got when you learned there's no steam chart page for this game
I'm sure you jumped up and down and kicked your feet in rage must've been hilarious sad

>>542632715
Darius is literally braindead easy - you just need to know distance

>>542645567
Grubble is just janky shit
It has 4 frames of pre jump for example but for 4 additional frames you straight up dont have any upwards momentum and can't act either so it's more like 8frames of pre jump

>>542638290
>>542645567
Im newish to fighting games but i was under the impression that vi punch wasnt good for neutral skipping in the first place
I use it and just run into normals or timewinders or teemo rocks is it really optimal in other games to just throw the move out to the point it's part of your muscle memory

>>542646548
Lariats are amazing anti air tools if you have good timing in MVC3 and DBFZ. Making an opponent block one in the air is usually rewarding rather than punishable. They don't have very tall anti air hitboxes. Regardless of that, zero moves should be more minus if the opponent is blocking it in the air vs on the ground.

https://www.reddit.com/r/2XKO/comments/1o6iijk/why_is_this_a_neutral_jump/njgnnuc/
Sir, another jank has hit the reddit

> > 542645740
Bro, I like the game, lol. I’m happy that it has almost the same number of views as SF6.
I also posted this >>542539651 to show that Twitch views doesn't mean shit.

>>542646548
It aso losses to Darius 2S2

>>542647531
That has been an issue, I've been running into this problem ever since I started playing. I figured I'm running into it more often because I'm on leverless. Hope it gets fixed.

>>542638290
This is how it works in DBFZ, BBTag, Strive, and MVC3.

>>542649317
Thank you. So it's not Riot devs being retarded but a design choice.

>>542646854
>zero moves should be more minus if the opponent is blocking in the air vs on the ground.
oh yeah buddy what about command grabs?

>>542649512
ironic shitposting is still shitposting, retarded game design is still retarded

>>542649636
No, what I wanted to know if it was amateur shit or just them making a retarded choice
It makes 0 sense here because the game is mostly grounded unlike DBFZ

>>542649793
>let's encourage grounded play by making jump blocking better than ground blocking
Huh?

>>542649937
you do know what mostly means, right bro

>>542650254
I honestly don't think I understand what you're saying. You got the point that DBFZ and the listed games give plus frames to attackers when the defender blocks in the air but 2XKO doesn't, right? Or did the text with the DBFZ webm imply that it's the same as 2XKO?

>>542650428
Not him but I'm retarded and somehow thought Jiren was +4. So it's just 2XKO, even in fucking DBFZ air blocking is worse. Lmao

>>542650568
Yeah I'm realizing that I didn't make the text contrasting enough and it implies it's the same as 2XKO, that's my bad. But nah, Hit's -2 move becomes +4 whenever someone blocks it in the air. This is universal with all moves across the board and it's the same in the other games listed (with varying amounts of plus frames).

>>542638290
Get fucked, your full screen charged neutral skip shouldn't allow you to get in for absolutely free

>>542649317
can u replicate this webm but w him higher up in the air?

>>542650995
Agreed, that's why you can parry it, stuff it with a super or better special on reaction, or literally just hold back if it's actually full screen. They don't need to break basic fighting game frame data fundamentals to balance this (or any other) move.
>>542651015
It'll be the same but yes one sec

>>542650995
IT'S EVERY FUCKING MOVE IN THE GAME YOU DUMBASS.

>>542651267
It's literally not
Try upbacking with a warwick running at you, his overhead is stupidly plus if it hits you in the air

What happens if Darius makes someone block 5sL in the air?

>>542650428
Im not even that anon
The words "mostly grounded" apply to the general way the game is played as in you arent double jumping to the top of the screen and superdashing in tuko
The words "0 sense here" are about the plus frames to attackers not existing in the more grounded game
Unwind a little bit bro

>>542651386
ok try charged 5H with WW next
it's completely inconsistent

>>542651596
I'm not really wound, I really didn't understand. Thanks for explaining.
>>542651015
webm related, +6 with max height

>>542652104
You just said every fucking move in the game you dumbass, in all caps

>>542638290
blockstun ends when they touch the ground. not surprised.

>>542652461
I don't think anybody is surprised about the mechanics of how it works like you mentioned but surprised that they'd ignore how everyone else does this and make air blocking even stronger than it already is in other tag fighters.

>>542652225
I just meant that every move is absolutely random
his overhead is minus and becomes plus
his 5M becomes safer
his 5H becomes even more minus, his charged 5H which is gigaplus is instead gigaminus

>>542652640
Yeah, the game is schizophrenic but my bad usually when I read the words every fucking move in the game, in all caps, I think you mean every move in the game and that there aren't any qualifications

>>542651492
I assume you meant 5S1. Looks like Darius can be anywhere from +1-+6 depending on opponent height, the higher the better.

>>542653101
>>542651492
He is much more minus on 5S2 when the opponent airblocks (-10 to -13). He's -7 on 2H as well but 2H blocked into 5S1 is plus and lands the opponent so Darius is not too impacted by this issue if you're aware.,

>>542652606
I lost a game earlier because of your posts btw
It was 13 hours ago here >>542571261
Will be holding a grudge forever sorry

>>542653421
>hey guys drive rush is really strong in SF6
>retard does nothing but drive rush and burns himself out over and over and loses because he doesn't understand why it's good
>DRIVE RUSH IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO LOSES TO IT IS BAD!!! BUFF DRIVE RUSH
am I wrong anon

When I play 2xko my whole body is so tensed and my butt is so clenchd its not an relaxing experience, I even sweat sometimes, I dont have this with Streetfighter. Anyone else?

>>542654293
I usually hold my breath for long periods when I'm playing tag fighters and my face gets really red even if I'm not upset or losing. Doesn't happen with SF or other competitive genres

>we're doing this again
ok but more importantly, pic

>>542654403
this happens to me when i play FPS games and i don't even notice lol

>>542654531
That's pretty nice

This guy is being paid by riot and even he doesn't get the skins. lmao

>>542641036
https://streamable.com/6bt6ro
universal charged heavies is such a weird mechanic to have

>>542655163
this is a blessed and likable kind of autism
>that outro
kek

>>542655163
basedest anon in any fg thread

>>542655163
Thanks buddy, where i can watch your other videos? Seems quite informative

>>542657708
his name is Dayton Dapman on YouTube

>>542657809
link?

>>542658132
https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ?si=2XsDvCiSkN3ZbwnQ

>>542652176
>webm related, +6 with max height
i see thanks

>>542654997
diaper doesn't really care about fluff stuff, he's a pure unadultered 100% gameplay guy
the only other thing he cares about is clout/content, so if say he can use a cosmetic to create content he'll probably do it

instead of posting it here do it on twitter, seriously, tag the 2xko account and let them see this shit. Complaining here is useless

>>542659936
I don't use xitter or any other social media. You're locked in here with me until it's fixed.

>>542660029
are you dumb anon? How are they suppose to fix it if you don't raise awareness on the only social media they use?
No one lurks this place anymore

>>542660184
listen Elon I'm not signing up for any social media I'm sorry

>>542659919
What I meant was that riot should have given the skins for free to him

WITH 1 SECOND LEFT ON THE CLOCK
AAAAEEEOOO

>>542660849
2xkami

>>542660309
You're right, you should use that knowledge to win evo 2026

Also check out this Vi E kill