Thread 542464070

Obelix edition

Previously on /coopg/: >>542178451


>Latest News/Updates:

Vermintide 2:
Hotfix 6.7.2
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/pc-hotfix-6-7-2/112401

Darktide:
Hotfix #79 - 1.9.3 - Patch Notes
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-79-1-9-3-patch-notes/113366

Jump Space is in early access

>Acknowledged but not really discussed
Ready Or Not
Starship Troopers Extermination
Aliens: Fireteam Elite
Killing Floor 2
Barotrauma
Left4Dead 2
SCP: 5K
GTFO
No More Room in Hell 2
Helldivers 2
Space Marine 2
Remnant 2
Payday 3
Back4Blood
Deep Rock Galactic
Earth Defense Force 6
WWZ
The Outlast Trials
The Forever Winter
FBC: Firebreak
Killing Floor 3
Daimon Blades
and others

>Future games
Den Of Wolves - TBA
DarkSwarm - TBA
Blight: Survival - TBA
Deep Dish Dungeon - TBA
Build planners:
Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/
Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/
Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

Bound by doody

Took you long enough
When i say "now" i mean right fucking now, bitch

DARKTIDE POLEARMS FUCKING WHEEEEEEN

>>542464415
The pickaxes
More will come with the admech class

>>542464479
they should give the ogryn a pike

>>542464531
With big monster damage for anti-large specialization

>>542464415
I think it's a bit unlikely that they would be able to balance the reach those weapons could have. Especially Ogryn ones

Not that it’s really even an option for me right now but I’m kinda passingly curious all the same: for the tabletop fags, how worth it is it to try to get into in current year? Assuming finances and whatnot weren’t an issue. What would I need to know/do?

Crazy how block cost reduction literally doesn't do shit for the slab shield

>>542471390
>>>/tg/96742679

>>542471390
3d printed probably since GW doesn't sell the infantry kits anymore for Steel Legion, but the tanks are the same but with a different coat of paint

The next Darktide update will have all of these:
Rinda Karnak returning as Plague Bearer riding a Rot Fly
Genestealer cult faction (Beastmen 2)
Red items made from Morbian steel
Chaos Wastes mode
Eldar Ranger class voiced by Kerillian VA

>>542475009
>Mirinda sister of Sprite returning
most likely
>Jeans stealers
for now red herring
>Red items
bit too early
>Gayos Wastes
hah no, they probably wanted to nail down proc gen for that but still lack manpower
>Eldar Kerillian
no, Fem Aribtrator Maul already is already voice by her

holy crap if darktide were vermintide 2 it would be 2020 right now...

Haven't touched Vermintide 2 in years, as you can see in pic related, but I've gotten the urge to dive back in.
If I remember correctly, I think I stopped playing shortly after Fatshit gave all players temporary free access to the Shadows over Bögenhafen maps in 2018.
Can I get a QRD on how much (or how little) the game has improved since I stopped playing?
One thing I particularly want to know is if they've fixed the loot system to make it less grindy and timewasting. I vaguely remember something about red dust.
Also, how much (or how little) have they sanctioned from the modded realm that you can play in the official realm? I remember it took Fatshark ages to approve anything from the modded realm.
On a final note, I notice the game has accumulated a ton of DLC since 2018, all of which seem to be bundled as part of a Legacy Collection that is currently on sale. Is the collection as a whole worth it or is it filled with a lot of useless shit?

>>542475873
its somewhat different. the core structure is in place but many many career weapons and equipment and even a few map changes

>>542475873
not sure about the exact timeline but here
>2019
Winds of Magic releases along with cataclysm difficulty, Beastmen were buggy and not well received, they have been toned down a bit but still annoying
>2020
Grail Knight Career DLC for Kruber and Bardin's Outcast engineer
it was a stretch and a half making him a Grail Knight (his ancestor was a giga chad bretonnian that got chased out by jealous fag)
Bardin's career was kind of mid on release, better now that he can produce bombs
>2021
Chaos Wastes mode released, roguelite adventure linked by maps, each map can have modifiers attached to it, along the map you can aquire blessings (like every X strike deal guaranteed crit or your crits make chaing lightning etc...)
each week different chaos god resided at the end with their own modifiers
since then mode received a few overhauls(new blessings, monsters with modifiers like immunity to ranged attack or stagger) and Belakor was added as a bonus round map
>Kerillian Class DLC
the most obnoxious and OP shit imaginable, after it got nerfed people cried for months
>Warrior Priest for Saltzpyre Career
not the strongest but it was fun regardless, pack came with few new weapons that were cool
>Sienna the Negromancer
it's okay even if skellies are distracting
>maps
we also received like 4(or was it 5?) seperate campaigns with their chapters free of charge, long ass maps with a lot of gimmicky objectives

>>542476732
>>542476537
Thanks.
It seems like Chaos Wastes is very interesting. I love roguelites.
What about the loot system? Have they made grinding for optimized red gear that allows you reach breakpoints less tedious and timewasting?
Also, now that I remember: Is stupid shit like the green boss walls still in the game?
And have they fixed bot AI so that solo play with bots is now actually reasonable instead of forcing you to babysit retarded AI that can even unintentionally triggers patrols?

>>542477127
>What about the loot system? Have they made grinding for optimized red gear that allows you reach breakpoints less tedious and timewasting?
nope
>Also, now that I remember: Is stupid shit like the green boss walls still in the game?
Yes
>And have they fixed bot AI so that solo play with bots is now actually reasonable instead of forcing you to babysit retarded AI that can even unintentionally triggers patrols?
there were some improvements, but you will still see A.I legding itself or not reviving you despite being in the spitting distance with no enemies

>>542477343
Thanks again.
God, Fatshit is so retarded.
Imagine being 8 years into the release of your game and you still haven't fixed the basic pathfinding issue of bots accidentally suiciding themselves off of ledges.
I'm reading through forums and it seems like they're still shit, even with modded realm mods.

>>542471390
Why the fuck would you ask this here and not /tg/?

I'm going to hurt you now!

Lucky bullet description
>15% chance of triggering lucky bullet and not consuming ammo on ranged attacks.

What lucky bullet actually does:
>15% chance of shooting twice in a row on single click (or three times if you have max back off! stacks) without consuming ammo. 20% chance of your shot not consuming any ammunition.

>>542479549
Retard

>>542477127
>>542477880
bot pathfinding isn't really much of an issue, the worst thing that happens is them getting stuck on some corner but that usually fixes itself quickly and i don't remember the last time i've seen bots ledge themselves
also they can fight just fine even on cata if you equip them properly but they will still act retarded from time to time, and sometimes they'll chase down specials instead of shooting them which can fuck you over on cata but thankfully this doesn't happen very often at all to me

>>542479549
>extra 30% weak spot damage
>actually increases your weak spot multiplier by 1.3, the extra 30% being unscalable
How many vets make this one simple mistake?

>>542482990
w-what does this mean?

>>542483015
It means Hadron is very disappointed in you

post this elf.

kerillians VA will be at a con soon, should I get something signed?

>>542484028
yes

>>542484028
Print a screenshot of her feet

>>542484028
Have her sign a female arbites image

>>542484028
posting this elf.
dunno if you should get something signed, if you have something cool for her to sign then sure

>>542485028
was thinking this as unfortunately I don't own a WHFB wood elf armybook

>>542479549
How can you be this stupid

>>542480928
>>542486716
explain

When is Darktide getting whatever the 40k equivalent is to Sack Rats

>>542486924
Impossible to code for current Fatshark

So do people not like darktide or what? I've been having a lot of fun with vermintide 2 with my friends.

>>542486891
"15% chance of not consuming ammo" and "15% chance of shooting twice" are functionally identical. You shoot twice because the first shot consumed no ammo and you continued to hold the trigger long enough to buffer a second shot.
And "20% chance of your shot not consuming ammunition" is simply wrong.

>>542487627
most anons already played both games, just handful of schizos insisting that their game is "superior" and any time you bring up flaws they are having worse meltdown than Chernobyl reactor

>>542487627
people who tend to like darktide are 40k fans, and 40k fans are notorious for ONLY liking 40k and wont try anything else, so they wont play VT2, DRG, L4D2 etc despite those games being WAY better
they're not fans of co-op games, they're fans of 40k games, regardless of it's quality (unless of course its an RTS or CRPG because they're not shooters)

>>542488540
But I like Darktide and have played those games

>>542487627
Why would you think that? 80% of the discussion here is darktide. Much of it is complaining, but if we truly didn't like the game, we would just play something else instead of caring enough to voice our opinions. It's still a fundamentally good game with good base gameplay, it could just be handled differently in a few ways.
Vermintide is awesome. Most people like both games. They're like 60% the same anyway.

>>542488540
This is absolutely untrue. Both parts. It's true for a handful of samples and you're going off the deep end.

>>542447484
Flame staff also has great cc with left click. If it's a fat pack of crushers I will just get to max stacks with soul blaze real quick and then cc bot for my team so they can mulch em down.

>>542489627
nu-40k fans wont even try a different edition of 40k, let alone a different game altogether
they will buy 40k games for the sake of it being 40k, nothing more

>>542488540
trvthvke
many who like dorktide are also often retarded and/or mentally ill, and those who think that it's good are definitely both

release me from this rotten hell, can't we have new modifiers?

>>542488143
Even if i tapfire the gun will shoot twice or more in a row. You can test this out yourself with kickback or rumbler with lucky bullet.

>>542491421
I dont really understand what determines the modifiers but ever since my havoc missions stopped being stims + rotten armor combo (its just stims now?) i completed 5 missions in a row.

>log in
>get free helmet from a community mission
But enough about good games, when is Darktide gonna give us something that isn't just a fucking frame?

>>542492118
Wish granted. 3 free weapon charms to celebrate Barktide.

>>542488540
trve

So the ideal Havoc comp is Arby Psyker Veteran Zealot?

>>542494662
More like three Arby’s and an Ogryn with Heavy Stubber and Pickaxe

The fact that bots are even capable of accidentally ledging (regardless of how common or rare you think it happens) when enemies don't do that is proof that Fatshark deliberately designed to be weak and retarded.
These are bots.
They could be designed to have perfect aim, perfect dodges, perfect movement and wallhacks. Obviously, I'm not saying Fatshark should do that, as that would be overpowered, but I'm just saying that it's possible to make them that way.
So there's nothing stopping Fatshark from at least making them able to traverse terrain with a 100% guaranteed chance of never accidentally ledging.
There's also nothing stopping Fatshark from doing what other games do with NPC companions when they accidentally fall into lethal holes, which is to have them respawn right back on safe ground.
Fatshark deliberately did not provide bots with any of these basic courtesies.

>>542491568
that's an issue with the gun, not the keystone

>>542495419
I wouldn’t be surprised if they were using the decision tree for special spawns as a pathfinding solution, as a quick fix that never got updated.

>>542482990
what the fuck are you talking about
+1.3 would be fucking huge, no way it's true

>>542492118
The Barktide post had 5 pets including from photos clearly taken at home. If a conservative 1/3 of employees have a pet, there are 15 people working on Darktide including community support.

Meaning probably about 3-5 actual developers. You’re getting everything they can put out.

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST FIX THESE LOADOUT BUGS

>>542495742
nah the bot logic is custom and a dedicated AI tree, you can go look at it in the decompiled source code
What I suspect (but haven't confirmed) is that they didn't paint certain parts of the map with flags to indicate it's a ledge so the AI literally cannot detect it shouldn't jump off a cliff there
For whatever reason a lot of flags and triggers like that are manually set rather than being dynamically determined - presumably it's more efficient that way, but it also means that the devs need to not fuck up when they're building maps (Fatshark challenge: impossible)

>>542496046
H40 no talent true survivor clear or ur bad

>>542496089
Surprisingly competent but by no means will I ever corrupt my pure academic logic and financial sector scripting education with whatever technoheresy is going on under the hood of this hot mess.

I’ll clear the board with Fatshark if they give me their UE5 Darktide 2 slop for at least 50% off at launch, as a victim of Darktide.

Otherwise I will buy the game just to ruin runs, leave a bad review, and ruin community discussion by being obnoxiously vocal in an annoyingly positive way about the game - tainting the image of fans in an irreparable way.

>silo cluster
never will I nope out of a mission faster than this

>>542496710
the game would be far more enjoyable if rewards for failed runs scaled better with completion percentage or individual performance

>>542493223
nu-40k fans only play space marine 2 and darktide

>>542496089
>is that they didn't paint certain parts of the map with flags to indicate it's a ledge so the AI literally cannot detect it shouldn't jump off a cliff there
So is that what pic related fixes? Or is bot pathfinding with pic related active still as wonky?

Is Fatshark the most monkey paw coded dev?

>>542497351
>that workshop image
SOVL

>>542497392
that would imply they ever do anything positive

>>542496838
silo cluster fails before the first drop down though

>>542496838
What do mats have to do with mission satisfaction? Do you enjoy missions because of the payout, rather than because they're fun to play? Why would getting some plasteel make it more fun to teamwipe

a handful of shillings to anyone who can provide some current footage of bots ledging themselves

>>542475873
>Legacy Collection that is currently on sale. Is the collection as a whole worth it or is it filled with a lot of useless shit?
You want it if you intend to play it again. Careers being fun aside, weapons tied to all those dlcs are much more important and usable on vanilla classes too. Being cucked out of Cata is bad too, even if they loosened restrictions, it was still not enough

>>542497351
the guy who made this mod made it as a fix and replacement for "Bot Improvements - Combat" mod because that mod was unsanctioned because of pic related and it looks like the author of it won't be updating it any time soon
and the description doesn't mention anything about tweaking their pathfinding, which i don't think there's any major issue with anyway

>>542498420
On VT2 or Darktide?
Had a bot walk off ledge in Darktide yesterday on the first room with enemies on Ascension Riser 31 after having cleared it. Can try to replicate it later.

>>542499452
wtf is "sanctioning"
How are they going to stop someone from installing a mod

>2025
>No new dlc with cosmetics for Darktide, only the old imperial edition

>>542499920
go to the slopshop, goy

>NMRIH2
mixed 63%
>KillingFloor3
mixed 49%
>Darktide
mixed 69% (recent reviews: mostly positive 74%)
>Borderlands4
mixed 64%

>>542497860
>Why would getting some plasteel make it more fun to teamwipe
Because at least then we can work to perfecting weapons/curios so it doesn't feel like such a defeat, especially if the wipe isn't directly your fault.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a recent Alien co-op game with an isometric angle that apparently was quite good? Does anyone remember the name? Or is that just a figment of my imagination?

>>542500625
just your imagination

>>542500364
Why are coopchuds so negative and toxic?

>>542499747
retard

>>542499452
I miss that mod. Made the bots better than most pubs. Now bots are worse than the average pub.

>>542495470
retard

>>542499747
a sanctioned mod can be used in the official realm
all other mods can be used in the modded realm

>>542500743
because coop franchises, with the exception of l4d, have ALL turned to shit by the second or third iteration

>>542500964
And how is that enforced

>>542500474
If you're playing content that isn't something you can single-handedly carry, you shouldn't be bringing half-baked weaponry in the first place, so the materials shouldn't matter because you've already purchased and upgraded your gear.

>>542499747
retard

>>542499603
VT2 because i never see it happen, i've seen how lobotomized darktide bots are

You will NOT play solo
You WILL get your teammates replaced with lobotomites when they inevitably disconnect/crash due to our shitcode
You WILL lose your havoc run due to this and you WILL be happy

>>542501039
retard

>>542501247
Or we have secondary weapon sets we are upgrading while we play with our current maxed weapons, autism anon. Not every wipe is your fault, some plasteel as a "you'll get them next time" isn't going to hurt anyone.

>>542501435
What is retarded about that question
In Darktide you can use any mod you want and Fatshark has no control over it.
Apparently this wasn't the case in Vermintide, but since I haven't played it I don't know how that works. Why are you so pissy about this, anyway?

>>542501609
retard

>>542501424
>teammates will randomly disconnect or be replaced by nonfunctional bots
Sounds like solo mode to me, problem solved.

>>542501323
On VT2 i've only seen it happen on the new maps like the one with a bunch of portals connecting to different rehashed areas. It's definately rarer though so either the bot AI or the maps are better designed.

>>542501513
retard

>>542500356
The current rotation is shit and fatshark could recycle old unreleased stuff from game files

>>542480928
>>542500767
>>542500908
>>542501279
>>542501435
>>542501698
>>542501791
Good posts

>>542501927
retard

>>542501984
ogryn

>>542501424
>You will NOT play solo
BOSCO!
>You WILL get your teammates replaced with lobotomites when they inevitably disconnect/crash due to our shitcode
lol no, solo lobby
>You WILL lose your havoc run due to this and you WILL be happy
what in the ever loving fuck is "Havoc"?
anyway back to mines

nuffin’ wron’ wit’ ogryn

>>542500364
>VT2
Very Positive 89%
>L4D2
Overwhelmingly Positive 97%
>DRG
Overwhelmingly Positive 97%

the real co-op games run /coopg/

>>542502089
I fucking love DRG but I’m so tired of driller primaries and I refuse to play without muh drillz

>>542501725
I want to play the shitty forced uprising difficulty missions on a new character solo instead of waiting 10 minutes for brand new players to slowly waddle over to the elevator/checkpoint room/whatever
I dont want bots in the actually difficult gamemode when they dont even register basic stuff like a sniper aiming and shooting at them.

>>542500896
the thing that i miss the most from it is bots pinging elites, though that feature was broken for quite a while before the mod itself was unsanctioned

>Now bots are worse than the average pub.
no way, i can clear full book legend runs solo with bots no problem and they can dodge dance monsters almost perfectly better than most players, they can even hold their own in cata while i sometimes have trouble carrying retards in legend
i recently played a few games on cata solo with bots and it went way smoother then i expected, i even had sott bot keep a Stormvermin aggroed to it solo at the barn in Against the Grain while i was dealing with the horde, even managed to do Skittergate with them and the hardest part of that by far was the final boss

>>542502270
>game is good because le people say so!!!!!!!11

>>542502459
go ahead and tell me why VT2, DRG, or L4D2 are bad games

>>542502089
Sorry but i lost interest in deep cock after i got all the overclocks and the devs lost interest long before that.

>>542502459
But enough about Darktide

>>542502585
In fairness the devs are working on rogue core right now
They did say they'd continue to release updates for both games once it's out

>>542502684
NTA but I remember they said this like almost 2 years ago?

>>542502459
uh oh darktide fan having a melty!

Daimon Blades > DRG = L4D2 > VT2 > Helldivers 2 > Darktide > Borderlands 4 > NMRIH2 > Killing Floor 3 > Payday 3

shit I completely forgot about daimon blades

>>542502808
Yeah, and it's taking them more than two years to finish rogue core
Ghost Ship does at least have a track record of actually delivering on their promises, even if they are slow

>>542503050
so did everyone else

>>542503050
to be fair so did everyone else

>>542502270
Yeah im thinking they won.

>>542503478
Based dungeon dweller

DRG would be pretty bad under Fatshark's hands
>Weapons and tools needs all the minerals to upgrade
>More or less 90% of cosmetics locked behind slop shop rotation with some one never returning for years
>No paintjobs and skin rewards in events, etc

>>542503478
this game is in that really weird cross-section of "kinda sucks ass" and "really fun"
Not surprised there's both very high reviews and no active players

>>542501424
I wish it was possible to play offline. Fewer things are more demoralizing in VT2 than to have your run completely fail because the game's shitty server disconnects mere seconds before you enter the Bridge of Shadows. Or you enter the Bridge of Shadows and the game bugs out, crashes to desktop, and acts as if the last 20 minutes didn't happen.

>>542503580
>weapons and tools need all the minerals to upgrade
I agree with your post but this part is already the case

>>542503619
>kinda sucks ass
?

>>542502459
>>game is good because le people say so!!!!!!!11
I mean, unironically yeah?
If there are like 20,000+ people playing your game daily and the reviews for your game are mostly positive, then it is a good game.
However, I do recognize that good is subjective. One man's "best game of all time" is to another man their abhorrent piece of shit that they hate.

>>542503727
The combat doesn't feel very good and the gameplay loop gets kind of stale

>ranged/melee boss spawn with horde, 3 mins in on amphitheater map
>ogryn starts the sypher sequence for some reason
>goes down first and dc's
>wipe to ranged wave

>>542503707
Yeah but in DRG you can exchange between minerals, we don't even have options to trade plasteel and diamantine in Darktide

>>542503994
>"deers"
>"infront"
>"sypher"
Skill issue, Rajesh.

I have come to the conclusion that Electro > Inferno > Voidblast

did he just imagined the first two words?

>>542488540
I have played DRG, it was fun but I do like Darktide as well.
I do 100% need to play more of DRG though, and since Darktide is in a massive content drought, might as well try that.

For me the main reason why I ever bought darktide was purely because I could play as an ogryn. I've always liked games where I get to be the giant ogre who hits hard and protects the team.
When I saw in the trailers that you could play as an ogryn I was fucking sold and wanted to buy Darktide.
Is Darktide perfect however? No, it's far from it but at this point most of the issues the game had have been addressed and fixed (even if slowly) and Fatshark as a developer has massive issues.
Only things I'm annoyed by currently is the lack of new maps, new enemies + enemy factions and then new weapons.
Last map we got was Clandestium Gloriana, and then within 3 years of DT life span we've only gotten 2 new enemies.

>>542503619
I think it would benefit greatly from being more forgiving at the start and having more QoL especially in online play. I know it goes against the whole roguelike feel of the game but it sucks when you play with your friends and one of them ends up dying to a trap/boulder/oneshot by high level monster and you end up vaccuuming all the levels and gear to yourself while they are permanently gimped.
In similar fashion the endgame (atleast solo) is WAY too easy and i ended up basically rushing the exit on the last zone because i already had best gear possible and couldnt be bothered to pick up items or fight stuff anymore.
Also completely agree the combat is kinda janky and i hope they rework it (alongside stealth its so easy to abuse once you know how it works)

>>542500712
>>542500625
Found it. It exists. It's just not actually co-op. That's the part I got wrong.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1150440/Aliens_Dark_Descent/

>>542504583
I have come to the conclusion that you are retarded.

>havoc
>enter room
>horde
>twins
>beast of nurgle
>plague ogryn
>chaos spawn (weakened)
thank god for grenade spam

>>542505192
we wiped btw

>>542503580
it seems like these are issues only darktide suffers from
curious

>>542505192
>kill all that
>can't deal with a group of regular shooters 50 meters away in cover
aaaaaa

>>542505306
We survived but 2 of us died and then wiped because we got another boss + horde and got seperated by a bomber and i got shot in the back and died like a bitch trying to make a mad dash for revives

>>542505589
certified director moment

scramblers (flamers/bombers) are more dangerous and more likely to lead to wipes than disablers (trappers/dogs/mutants)
The vast majority of players immediately snap to trappers but are happy to let the bomber turn the entire level into a lake of fire

>>542506072
I swear they made the fart gas clouds bigger recently

>7 plasma niggers approach you
wdyd?

>>542506513
A SHIELD

>>542506072
If your vet player isnt retarded he will be sniping every special before they even get a chance to attack (apart from maybe muties as they are pretty tanky and almost a non-threat compared to everything else) but that's asking alot from Darktide players.

>>542506072
Most people don't let them live, the problem is that bomber AI is dickheaded and designed to hang back and hide behind cover and then lob grenades at you from a blindspot.

Flamers are at least easy in that they just run up to you which lets you easily dome them or even melee them if you can dodge the flame.

>>542506808
>before they get a chance to attack
>throws a grenade into your squad from outside the level geometry behind a wall even the plasma gun can't penetrate
>runs away
nothin personnel, rejects

>>542506513
EMPEROR-SAMA SAVE ME AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

H40 but your team mate brings spychic shriek and surge contributing nothing until the inevitable wipe

>>542507640
surge is a blessing

>tac axe special can interrupt mutie charges on headshot
disgusting, this weapon did not need this capability

>>542507972
you could just use a weapon that kills the mutie in one headshot

>>542507925
surge staff bro thats how he announced it in chat too. It went like this:
>Psyker are you gonna play flame or smite?
>I will take psychic shriek and surge
>Game starts before we can tell him otherwise
>does nothing and dies

>>542508141
True and also irrelevant

Unless you are smitebitch or there's another psyker you should always pick shield as psyker, no ifs or butts

>>542508243
mm nyo sweetie it's electro now

Darktide talents be like
>5% extra toughness on kill
>15 toughness
>ranged hits grant stacks of scrimbo scrambo, increasing critical hit chance of your next melee attack by 5%, melee hits grant stacks of scrambo scrimbo, increasing critical chance of your next ranged attack by 5%
>gain 15% attack damage for 5 seconds after heavy attack
>3 bleed on melee critical hit
>you and allies in coherency gain 5% revive speed
>5% rending

What other Sci-Fi franchise do you want or think could benefit the most from a coop/tide game? (Do not reply Star Wars)

>>542472289
>>542473638
Hmmm alright. Thanks for the responses.
>>542477941
Because I said I was passingly curious, I.e. not enough to go to another board and/or make an entire thread for it?

>>542509835
XCOM
Killing Floor
Something else i forgot

>>542509835
Warhammer, again. But this time we're fighting Orks.

>>542484028
Ehh, I don’t even know what she looks like and frankly I’m kind of scared to find out. I will not post that elf btw. Get an autograph if you want though.
>>542486101
Pretty cool actually.
>>542488540
What a strange thing to say. You know it isn’t true because you felt the need to reply to yourself too. Weirdo.

Rotten armor is cancerous, but I still think that pox gas is the worst modifier in pubs. Even relatively bad groups can clear havoc missions by taking their time, and gas eliminates that as an option. You're constantly moving around to avoid taking damage and it just short-circuits people's brains.

If slaneeshi daemons are too sexy to be put into any games then explain why its ok for me to be subjected to Sefoni making suggestive comments and moaning like a slut 24/7 into my poor innocent virgin ears while i try to complete mortis trials penances.

>>542496331
i’m very curious to see the extent of your own “academic logic and financial sector scripting education”

>>542511273
It's not that sexy or suggestive things aren't allowed in games
It's that you're not allowed to have those things be portrayed as behaviors you can justify killing someone over
Slaanesh is an "issue" because you're essentially killing people for being extreme perverts, and even if it's completely justifiable within the lore it's socially unacceptable for marketing purposes
GW is never gonna take that risk when they can just use the other three chaos gods.

>>542500625
>>542505068
you also got the part where you said it was “apparently quite good” wrong (because it’s not)

>>542502270
Too bad they’re all ancient zombies at this point and their respective sequels are either never happening or objective downgrades.

>>542503050
not a surprise. it’s dead and dusted. probably bit the curb harder than even kf3. very tragic.
>>542503580
what an intriguing and compelling thought. what’s next? ea would fill it with micro transactions if they had it?

>>542508464
this but unironically

bubble is always going to contribute more to the team than the personal +15% dps you get from running your EPIC MILLIONS OF DAMAGE [NEW META???] gayze build

>>542504246
You owned him here.
>>542505192
Oh man I love going to LLL. :)

>>542506808
>If your vet player isnt retarded
hahaha that’s a good one man

>flamer spawns silently behind an armor pack
>plays attack audio, but by then he's already firing
>blinding flames cover your entire field of view to stop you from just shooting him
>spamming ping to find/highlight him cucked by the 15 elites accompanying him
>even if you do ping him the outline is red on orange
I hate this enemy

>>542512675
ea would cancel the game or drop it around early access

>>542504709
>I do 100% need to play more of DRG though, and since Darktide is in a massive content drought, might as well try that.
I have bad news for you buddy.

>>542509835
The Elder Scrolls, but i can't really think of anything that would fit
maybe something set during the Oblivion Crisis could work

>>542514795
>it's in a closet and refuses to come out

>>542514795
you don't understand anon, we NEED four dedicated audio channels for the background music, sacrificing functional enemy sound cues to make room is a necessity

>>542506513
Shriek, and hope that my team is cognizant enough to close the gap and push their shit in. Otherwise dodge and dance till the 20 second cd is up again.

>>542508464
You could always get good and stop asking me to bring a crutch for you

>>542509835
>(Do not reply Star Wars)
But
But it's the most obvious one. It would lend itself so well.

I can't think of anything else really. Even some Forgotten Realms game was tried already, but all those tabletop rpg settings feel too progressive to just let you slaughter Orcs en masse. It doesn't even sound like something which would appeal to fanbases of those settings

Honestly Fatshark didn't even scratch a surface with both wfhb and 40k. They could make multiple sequels to both and not run out of material - weapons, locations, enemies, playable characters etc

>ping poxburster approaching
>teammate A swap to melee and walks towards it holding the block animation, clearly ready to push
>teammate B detonates it on top of teammate A
lmao

>>542511273
>Meanwhile in a parallel universe
>Darktide with almost the same plot but under slaanesh corruption instead of nurgle
>Rejects are raped in missions failures, getting anal bleeding permanent status unless they visit Oska Krall and pay a lot to remove it
>Meanwhile they drop a line of blood and screams of pain every time you move around the Mourningstar
lol

>>542515505
*wipes*

>>542515610
every time

>>542515658
>coop tidelike H-game
remove the blood and this sounds kino

>>542515610
>teammate A is closer and the target of the poxburster, and starts shooting it
>teammate B sprints at it from the side to push it and gets exploded
get fucked

>>542516023
Darktide is already a H-game thanks to beasts of nurgle
t.femzealot player

Are poxwalkers considered plaguebearers? Or could Fatshark theoretically add these guys as a new enemy?

how did darktide buckbreak telepots

>>542516894
Plaguebearers are leeser daemons, and they have presence in the game but it's too small yet

>still no vt2 new weapons that were teased months ago
did fatshark just give up?

>>542516894
you're getting a reskinned plague ogryn and you'll say thank you as well

>>542517285
>and they have presence in the game
They do? Where?

>>542511273
Because suggestive lewdness via innuendos and dialogue is not the same as having daemons and cult members running around with their tits and dicks flapping around.
>>542514513
This lol.

>>542506513
BLOOD FOR THE EMPEROR
SKULLS FOR THE GOLDEN THRONE

>>542517728
he probably meant the gay ritual orgies

>>542516894
No, they’re two separate things.

can you imagine how hard the average player will shit the bed when Fatshark adds flying enemies to the game

>true survivor
>doesn't bring krak to rotten armor

>>542519065
not my problem

>>542519065
exactly i bring smoke bombs to negate ranged mobs and power sword for rotten armor

>>542517728
>They do? Where?
They're teased in different maps like pic related, but again, small presence like the genestealers for now until Fatshark decides to progress with the plot.

>>542517728
They are not in the game, technically.
However in the refinery delta mission, the one where you build up pressure in the gestation tanks to destroy the plague admonition is working on. There is a secret plague bearer skull in the final room, it's in a pile of gore.

>>542514513
I know that the devs aren't working much on DRG currently, but I am ashamed to admit I've only played DRG once so I haven't experienced a lot of it.

>>542511273
Sefoni's sex moans are hell of a lot tamer and more SFW than a slaanesh daemon or a slaanesh cultists prancing around butt naked with their dicks/tits flopping all over the place.

>>542479549
>>542480928
I noticed this too. When did they change this? It used to definitely not work like this, now it shoots repeatedly

>>542509835
I really want to see a developer who knows what they’re doing try their hand at a game starting a high tier hyper advanced Sci-Fi franchise. Something like The Culture, Xeelee Sequence, Doctor Who, etc.
I have no idea what it would actually play like, but running around as a literal god and defending from the various threats that star in them would be a treat to see.
Alternatively, I think a Hakf Life spin off where you either play as the Combine trying to subjugate other dimensions or defending yourself as one of those dimensions would also be neat.

>>542520819
Why would a Jew or Chinamen ever finance this?

You misunderstand the purpose of video games.

>>542509835
Starcraft's would be amazing.

>>542471390
I can't imagine ever getting into something that takes as much work and is as niche as Warhammer TT is in the first place when GW deprecates factions with new printings as often as they do.

>Just play X edition
With who?
>Lol, no friends
Oh, you have a lot of people who hang around playing X edition? No, you don't, you lying bitch. That shit becomes shelf/convention fodder and you know it.

>>542522849
funny you should say that

secret news so don't tell anyone but there's one in the works rn

>>542523071
I have bad news about Starcraft: Ghost, anon...

As long as someone other than Fatshark is in charge of live service, that would be great news.

>>542522675
what’s the purpose of video games?

>>542522675
>Why would a Jew or Chinamen ever finance this?
Because it would be fun and unique, provided it’s done properly through a mix of appropriate funding and people who actually know what they’re doing plus are familiar with source material, like I said.

>>542511359
Who on this planet would share specifics for a measly (You)?

>>542523408
>>542523618
You get to watch Superman solve problems because it leaves you in a weaker, expectant state, hoping for your own personal savior to swoop in and solve the problems too large for you.

You don't get to practice being him, and if someone stumbles upon this formula, we pay them handsomely to abandon it. The purpose is demoralization.

t. Alan Moore

>>542520638
Yeah I remember in Rogue Trader when I faced a Slaanesh daemonette and was immediately fired from my job even though I was in international waters.

>>542511273
Because Slannesh is literally just drag queens and trannies. They were making fun of them back then when 40k was being codified and nobodoy thought that eventually it would become accepted or even supported behaviour, so Slannesh is sentenced to sit in the corner forever because removing one of the big four would cause an uproar in the community. They already tried once with Age of Sigmar and it wouldn't surprise me if the eventual conclusion of the whole Vashtorr thing is to pull a quick one on us and swap him with Slannesh.

>>542523835
(You). Right now.

>>542525618
cutie

>>542525429
*breeds Lenore in front of her*

>>542526078
For me it’s the big dyke butch bitch

>>542525398
>record scratch
>freeze frame
yep, that’s me

>>542510171
yes i'm sure that going to another board and asking in the 40k tabletop general there would've been inhumanly difficult

What do you think about these new cosmetics?

>>542528216
umm...

NEW cosmetics?

>>542506513
hold left click on my psyker so they can't hurt me

>>542528181
Not what I said but sure

ah, scab shooters, my ancient enemy

>>542528791
>Sep 29
of 2023, right?

>>542509835
It’s a shame Destiny’s gameplay is such phenomenal dogshit. It’s probably the most well known sci fi game that could benefit the most from a complete mechanical makeover. Its lore is pretty damn intriguing too but hardly done justice outside of text and that’s just such a letdown.

>game about fighting nurgle's influence on a hive
>two (2) nurgle enemies (chaos spawn and beast of nurgle)
>two (2) half-nurgle enemies (daemonhost and plague ogryn)
>everything else is just an enemy militia with AIDS
very cool Fatshark

>>542530348
even worse the chaos spawn and plague ogryn are just high effort remasters of the vt2 chaos spawn and rat ogre

>>542530348
I actually got to level cap on my main before I realized that poxwalkers were different than normal enemies or whatever. I'm sure it adds a layer of visual complexity that makes the game feel less cheap but I haven't made a single mechanic decision as a result of the """mixed hordes."Y You want enough rending to take down carapace enemies anyway, so I've never spared it any thought. Everything dies to the same combos anyway. Only time it's worth sparing processing power better spent dodging to alter your attack pattern is when you face a carapace elite.

>>542531143
man what a terrible post, i'm sorry

>>542530871
>rat ogre
I almost wish we just fought one of those instead

>>542530348
This is why Chaos Undivided will always be superior

>>542530348
Honestly I prefer it this way since I like the idea of shooting at a bunch of Lost & Damned, but with how the game is structured around having multiple "factions" (Scabs and Dregs, technically) my wishful thinking would have been that we'd get other guys at some point.
Truth however is all that we' can hope to get is the Genestealer Cult "second hive" DLC in couple years that will be mostly reskinned Dregs with couple of specials (welcome back Beastmen). Some new elite that will play badly and fit weirdly some time after (welcome back Chaos Warrior with mace and shield.)

>>542531143
>poxwalkers were different than normal enemies
buh?
poxwalkers are the green zombies, and there are the pale infected humans with armour, and I’ve noticed recently there are rare enemies that look like they were imperial guardsmen at one time
honestly I just sort them by how many hits/combos I will need to kill them and/or their ranged capabilities

>>542536349
idk man everything dies in two hits of my relic blade or eviscerator and if i wanted to swing anything else i'd play a better game

>>542536857
>eviscerator
fatshark needs to add a volume slider for the chainsaw sfx
way too loud for my delicate ears

>>542538682
The mk 4 chain axe is the worst

>be playing taunt ogryn
>eviscerator zealot is actually sawing through all the crushers
They just need some space

>>542539625
>instantly mogged by arbitrator on any weapon spamming left click

>>542539957
A revved up eviscerator does pretty good damage against crushers, but that's dangerous when you don't have someone keeping the enemies occupied

What's the shittiest weapon in Darktide?

>>542540468
the chain weapons because they’re too loud to use

>>542540468
the chain weapons because i dont like how they stick to enemies

>>542540468
Shredder autopistol

>>542540468
in the category of weapons I never use, Heavy Sword and Vigilant Autogun. The game they were made for no longer exists, and vigilants were barely useful even back then.

>>542540468
All of the auto guns. Most of the melee weapons.

zealots should be practically immune to chip damage and their main function should be 1v1ing monstrosities and bosses while the rest of the team handles the specialists and elites

what other identity could they have at this point
ogryns should mog other ogryns
arbi should be keeping the block fodder in line
vets should be sniping dangerous specials
and psykers should put their bubble down and then apologize for existing

>>542540468
Heavy Sword

>>542540468
I have a potentially irrational hatred of the Heavy Sword.

>>542540468
Heavy swords and the power falchions

>>542540468
It's the heavy sword, it feels like it was included just to highlight chainswords and power swords via contrast

>>542540468
Ogryn. All of it.
Not neccesarily bad, it just feels like shit to me. I wish we had a Ratling instead because Bardin felt better than Snoregryn.

>>542543613
Skill issue

>>542543613
>kneecaps count as weakspot hits for ratlings

>>542542659
The problem is Arbites. Arbites should have been a slower but tankier middle ground between Zealots and Ogryns. Instead they're the best of both worlds.

>>542545267
>Zealots should by X and do Y
>"The problem is actually 75"
>...

>zealot is the most important class in high havocs for its ability to just never fucking die, insta res you, and piss all over you
>zealot is le bad
If you're struggling in your little babby aurics as freshly buffed zealot, that's such a monumental skill issue, I don't even think I could explain to you how much you suck because you just wouldn't get it.

>>542546335
you're the worst poster here

>>542495419
Classic video games. Computer allies are always worse than the enemy.

>>542500364
What does this image have to do with the post

>>542503619
It kind of just looks like it sucks ass man but idk I’ve never played it

Zealots went from being the best class to being the worst class by far

Let that sink in

>>542547746
In your hands, sure.
I'm not letting the sink in.

>>542495419
>is proof that Fatshark deliberately designed to be weak and retarded.
What is this pretense that this isn't obviously the case? of course they're not making competent bots, it would defeat the point of the game

>>542547851
Every class is brought to its full potential in my hands

The sink is inside your house now

>trying to get the achievement in Firebreak where you do a hard mission and no one gets downed
>can always hold my own but there's always one retarded random who fucks up
kill me

>>542547874
I thought ratclick had competent bots that would actually, y'know, do things.

>>542547949
You had forever to do that and you chose after they fixed the difficulty scaling?

>>542509835
Half-Life as a squad of Combine grunts sent into the Containment Zone to push back Xen infestation (this would be before they gave up on it in Alyx.) You can have different Combine for different classes like a medic, a heavy, a technician, an all rounder, etc. Could have Antlion heavy zones, zombie zones, Vort zones, etc. etc.

>>542548074
Only got into the game when it was on sale after they had already fixed it.

>>542548041
It didn't, they were fully fucking retarded and kept dying to 3 rats or 1 elite. Not quite as bad as darktide but anyone pretending the bots in ratclick were worthwhile is reinventing history. About the only notable difference is that they could fight bosses competently

>>542509835
maybe Star Trek shit against the borg could work? or like something to do with stargate
>>542514781
>The Elder Scrolls
>Sci-Fi

>knosso prond jerkin
>not even a single attempt to model ambiguously, it just straight up has a male chest
lol these guys know no shame huh

>>542549128
lorelet

>>542540468
Auto pistol
Vigilant autoguns
Heavy swords
Devil claws
Arguably both kinds of heavy stubber.

Maybe power maul as well since that weapon is just plain fucking cursed. But it might be good now thanks to the buffs, but I haven't played with it.

>>542548041
Adding competent bots to a coop game is counter-productive.

>>542509835
Warhammer 40k.

>>542550210
i've just now realized that they just strap things over the chest of every model that has a tight fit
jesus christ how lazy can you get

>>542550210
The Numidium and wonky time travel shenanigans is not enough to classify it as Sci Fi buddy. At best it has elements of it.

>>542550436
What is this retarded cope?
>DRG has an AI companion more useful than most players
>it's really good in single player as a result
>most players still choose to play with others
So I can't have competent bots in poxclick because they would be better teammates than (You), the average auric shitter?

wake up anon, it's time for your daily, obligatory, maelstrom duo

>>542552020
Yes... honey...

>>542550939
Who's gonna look at your cosmetics if you play solo

>>542553491
Shit, fuck.
I concede because I think you are genuinely correct. I hadn't even thought that far.

>>542547493
NMRIH2 KF3 and most likely BL4 will die as unloveable incel chuds because their devs released inferior sequels to beloved games

>>542548289
>>542520819
>>542509835
third for half life
even leaving aside the obvious 3rd game joke i do think there’s a lot you could do with a combine focused game, especially since they have such a wide breadth of setups for a potential tide game.
could be a neat little divide between missions.

>eviscerator in lore is the biggest, baddest chain weapon, designed to obliterate armor and tear open anything you throw at it
>Fatshark's version is one of the worst weapons vs carapace
what did they mean by this?

wait so vet niggers have ogryn batter now thats easily reachable and have uncanny and they still whine? goddamn

>>542554732
are these whining vets in the room with us right now

>>542554732
>and they still whine
I haven't seen vets complain in years
They're the best class and even they know it

>>542554732
>>542554872
>>542554930
power sword is still fucking gay as hell

>>542555165
It is a retard strong and retard easy weapon, yes.

Painkiller is becoming a coop shooter with Chaos Wastes mechanics.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2300120/Painkiller/
Demo is out, looks fun.

>>542550294
Power maul still sucks ass

>>542556007
We have our first Daimon Blades like....

>>542556319
? They are nothing alike?
Have you ever played Painkiller, anon?

Favorite Vermintide 2 line? For me it's
>Keep doing that, and I'll take yer beard!

>>542556482
Of course not, why would I? But the Daimon Blades inspiration is quite clear.

>>542556982
Okay. *points gun at you instead*

>>542556982
He's right you know

>>542553707
I mean this isn't a gotcha or a contest for you to even concede in but that's genuinely the reason for a lot of stupid decisions in modern games. Mourningstar exists as a hub solely so other people can look at your cosmetics. You can't private a game alone because nobody will look at your cosmetics. Bots are generic and bad so you want to play with other people and they will stand out.
The worst part is it's proven to work, just as FOMO and other scummy practices are.

>>542558127
All excellent decisions btw

>>542556007
>>542556319
>>542556482
>>542556820
>>542556982
>>542557194
>>542557560
>>542558067
most obvious samefag shill of all time.

>>542558298
Take your meds, schzo

really wish the 6 normal axes had meaningfully different movesets or capabilities

>>542558791
Best we can do is adding a 7th with the same problem.

>>542558937
well alright if its new ill use it for a couple days at least

>>542558791
The achlys is meaningfully worse than the other 2

>>542559568
i hope you find extra ammo (or perhaps an extra stimm if you don't need any) on your next mission anon

Kerillian's cute and sexiness feels illegal.

>>542559979
Thanks

HOW TO FIX OGRYN SHOVELS
Higher damage and armor pen
Low cleave
Make them perform like the combat axes

Thank you for your attention to this matter

>>542559979
>ping extra ammo bag
>teammate with orange ammo icon ignores it
>would have taken 3 seconds total to get
>they're asking the guy holding an ammo box to put it down for him 1 minute later
>everyone is good on ammo except him

>>542556007
just finished playing the demo
this is actually pretty good.
it's more like abyssus and ratclick 1 than daimon blades
too bad it's 40 fucking dollars
but it has all the ingredients
genuinely felt i was playing horn of magnus back in vermintide 1
the banter between the cast is what darktide misses so much

>>542556007
The video/stream/whatever that's showing on the steam page makes it look like nu-doom.

>>542555165
Problem being it’s unsatisfying as shit to use.

>>542560982
it's not a doom clone at all
see >>542560805

>>542561134
I did not call it a doom clone. I said they are advertising it like it is.

>>542560805
Yeah, tempted to preorder.
I agree with the Abyssus comparison, they really need to stop shadowdropping those Darktide competitors.
>>542561269
Great, the devs are retards then.

>>542560227
It is a boon to live in the same universe as she

>>542464070 (OP)
For the Inferno force staff, which is better: Blaze Away and Warp Nexus, or Blaze Away and Penetrating Flame?

>>542560805
>>542561449
>the steam forums are full of quake boomers seething the game is nothing like the original painkillers
kekkeroni rigatoni

>>542547949
I did one solo run of Hot Fix that went well on Hard, but a solo run on Frequency Shift went bad half way through. I need to find a good solo loadout.

>>542561654
>Vermintide: Eternal
My red-flags are a risin

>>542509835
I wouldn’t mind seeing something like that for a Quake game. Has the dimensional incursion element needed for it to work. Cool monsters, weapons, levels, etc.

>>542560684
oblivious bastards

>>542562797
sharp knees

>>542561654
It would unironically be a better world if there were enforced litmus tests on branding, though. It’s evil to take advantage of mentally ill people and retards you don’t even know just because they’ll buy anything with a particularly beloved childhood brand attached.

But enough about Fatshark.

>>542562279
Freezer Duty went very well, but then I didn't get any other Corruptions spawning in and then in the extract I got downed anyways. Can't wait for them to bring back the old system.

Aurics have reached the point where i'm pretty much forced to bring tauntgryn or else my team just won't survive

>>542565670
Been that way ever since they moved aurics off a second page, pal.

>>542565940
Mayhap
These fuckers don't even realize that the only reason why they are alive is because they are within my taunt range
>fucker runs off and gets completely boxed in
>i push taunt them through the floor and rescue him
Push taunt is such a kino talent. Serious fatshark W

>>542549128
uhh idk how but in my mind i completely omitted the sci-fi bit from the question
i still think a TES coop game would be cool
and fantasy > sci-fi anyway

>>542567324
>a TES coop game would be cool
You realize that only fatshark has the ability to make that game fun, right?

>>542567324
Skyrim Together Reborn already exists.

>>542567592
all they have to do is make it not like darktide and functional at launch, the latter might be a problem

>>542549128
>trek
Wouldn't a co-op action game be the antithesis of what that franchise is all about lmao?

would a ratburster improve Vermintide?

>>542556007
Seemed fun for the few games I played. People are still terrible at prioristing disablers though, 3 times I've watched helplessly as I get dragged into the abyss.

>>542565670
Then they don't survive. Maybe they'll learn to play a different difficulty while they sit in time-out for a while. lol no they won't

>>542567324
>and fantasy > sci-fi anyway
Nah. Both are equal amounts of kino when done right.
>>542568239
You mean from a le peaceful utopian society standpoint? That’s presumably why he said the Borg would have to come in

>>542568782
>pull entire room in my taunt
>melee veteran runs into the other room and pulls 3 ragers and dies in a corner
He was having so much fun stabbing enemies until the enemies fought back

>>542568908
99.9% of conflicts are resolved through diplomacy. And the ground fights always have phasers set to stun. Also The Borg/ spaceship fighting would be a better premise for a Star Fox clone.

Is the spearhead boltgun even good?
This mf takes forever to unholster and aim, and not aiming-down-sights is a huge ammo waste.

>>542570614
the bolt pistol is better in every way that matters

>>542556564
>MAYFLIES

>>542568590
well?

>>542570614
>Is the spearhead boltgun even good?
It is extremely good because you can build it as if it were a sniper rifle.
Take Deadshot on vet, piss mark's left node as a stamina engine, 1-2 stamina curios according to taste, and put the aimed crit blessing on the boltgun. It annihilates most things in 1-2 headshots except crushers, which I think need 2-3 now depending on your build. Not that you should shoot crushers anyway.
If you care enough, vet can also fix the swap speed issue. And the reload speed issue. And definitely the ammo issue.
The next best user is Arbitrator which turns it into a brutally effective magdump boss deleter, with the 20 and 30% unyielding damage in the class.
Zealot can also use it to brutal effectiveness, at least in aurics, with the right keystone. I don't think zealot should be using it in havoc anymore, personally.
>>542570841
Mostly true, except ammo and boss killing, which I think do matter depending on your class and role. I think it's about equal with boltgun on vet, and the lack of ammo is felt in havoc where most classes have better options imo.

>>542570614
Very good

i know i'm three years late to the trough but i still can't get over the gender neutral cosmetics models
like what the actual fuck

Just did my first cataclysm game ever as the Footknight. Holy fuck that was intense.

>>542573205
>you on the right
>auric and havoc chads on the left

>>542564916
Finally did it solo on Outbreak. Once I heard a Corruption right outside the elevator door I knew I had to not fuck it up. Thought I'd get fucked at the end of it when the elevator door broke, but I repaired it and just threw water grenades just in case. Also got an Exotic out of it so fuck yeah.

>>542570969
they're fine

>>542570614
It's insane on Vet. Take Focus Target or run it with lots of crit like the other anon suggested. I do disagree with the other anon in that shooting Crushers with it is fine on Vet so long as you're hitting the head. Just don't mag dump and miss a ton of shots when 3-4 would have sufficed. It bodies almost all other elites and does good monster damage to boot.

>>542571065
>I don't think zealot should be using it in havoc anymore
Zealot shouldn't have been using it in S1 of Havoc. Unless it was really strong for some season I missed, it wasn't a good pick on Zealot ever for Havoc. Too ammo hungry in a mode where there's not enough ammo. The Bolt Pistol was a much better pick if you wanted to run something other than flamer.

>>542497392
yeah i have half a repentia set cobbled together over three years to prove it

>>542556564
Black ones!

>>542574303
>I do disagree with the other anon in that shooting Crushers with it is fine on Vet so long as you're hitting the head.
Arguably true, though I wouldn't want to encourage building a habit to shot crushers when every havoc vet should be krakking them, if there's a healer nearby, or using melee to preserve ammo.
Granted, I am somewhat assuming that the vet is running a meta melee like power sword, so it'll obviously be different on some builds. Then again, if you're in auric, there aren't enough crushers for you to run out of kraks with most good builds, so you can rely on those anyway.

>Operations
>Theres only one

Uhmmm darkturds?

>>542575248
many such cases

>>542575248
2 actually

>>542574647
>though I wouldn't want to encourage building a habit to shot crushers when every havoc vet should be krakking them
I doubt the anon was asking about Havoc though. If he's talking about issues with the thing's swap speed and ammo economy, Havoc is probably still a ways off for him, if he ever decides to bother with it.
>Kraks
True, it is often a waste to just start unloading on Crushers when you could Krak them. That said, running something like a Bolter is a good opportunity to use Shredders, if someone's so inclined, because your gun already handles armored elites and monsters so well. Having the CC and AOE from Shredders pairs nicely with Bolter in Aurics. It's how I've predominantly run my Bolter setup, and the new health value didn't change that for me.

No
Psyker is not the best potential melee class even with scryers gaze and high levels of skill

It's still the good old ogryn

I really don't understand the end game of certain vermintroon players who sprint past the entire fucking team. Congratz, you have 500 hours and for some reason you're not playing Cataclysm or solo mode and choose to spend your time trolling Legend matches. Maybe they are actually too bad for those things and need power trip on a lower difficulty? I don't know. You guys are the experts. Fill me in.

If not for the fact that the plasma gun can shoot through walls, the slug shotgun would be a direct upgrade

I have had enough of rotten slop I haven't seen a regular rager in a month

>>542578056
i dont play on legend but i think you just answered your own question

>>542569739
Didn’t know that. My experience with Trek is limited to like those new movies that released over a decade ago now. Guess it’s not a good fit.

>>542503050
>>542503251
Its 40 dollars for an unpolished early access game from a studio with a middling history at best. It never had a chance.

>>542509835
>not wanting to kill Goa'uld fucking shits, among others
Can't believe nobody's said Stargate yet. The setting's even prime for mission-to-mission adventures in drastically different settings and with varying enemy types.

is darktide still being mogged by vt2 or do i have a reason to play it now

>>542580372
It was never mogged by vermintide even in its worst state

Darkturd moment

>>542580674
insane cope

>>542581091
How is an objective fact a cope?
I'm not going to play pretend with you

>>542581169
you already are playing pretend

>>542580674
>More mixes reviews than gay fantasy online

>>542581808
>no u!!!
K

>>542579429
i suggested it here THOUGH >>542549128
i agree it would seem to fit quite nicely, i barely remember anything about it myself but what i do remember could translate pretty seamlessly.

Is there an outfit or skin or something that removes Kruber’s beard? Im kinda curious what he looks like underneath all that…

>>542583143
Oh, my bad. Was skimming the replies and missed it that part of your post.

>>542583317
Foot knight has a few

>>542584154
that was pleasantly funny

>>542509835
I was gonna say Dune, but I don’t think it’s an especially setting honestly and from what I’ve seen at least it’s not especially focused on flashy conflicts or big open wars so maybe not the best fit. So for me it’s Deus Ex. Hard to beat this bad boy when it comes to dystopian cyberpunk sci-fi and the game already had all the key elements needed for a game like this to work. Could be very kino if handled right.

>>542509835
I couldn't think of one
Mass Effect already had a good coop mode with Mass Effect 3 but Bioware is feeding the rats at the moment (no progress is made with Mass Effect 4 either)
DUNC is trying to pander to that dogshit art deco movie, nothing interesting there unless someone has the brass balls to movie from Frank Herbert's work and try to tackle hos son's works that included the batlerian jihad
Asimov's works have curse on them that prevents anyone from finishing them or make faithful to his books
Farscape/Babylon 9 largely forgotten (Firefly died quickly)
Star Trek, pretty sure we already had a coop game from Warframe devs, doubt anyone remembers it
Dark Matter, another forgotten series that could've had coop game

>>542556007
From the demo, this game pretty much is doom eternal meets vermintide 2. You even have to get melee chainsaw kills to recover ammo/energy.

>>542585838
>has the brass balls to movie from Frank Herbert's work and try to tackle hos son's works that included the batlerian jihad
QRD?

>>542588639
butlerian jihad: humans are relying too much on robots and ai and its making them stupid and weak so we banned it
butlerian jihad forma de brian: the robots have made a big evil empire and we have to go to war with them

>>542584154
kek

>>542587624
painkiller always had that

>>542588639
portions of humanity go towards full robot(organic brain rest is metal), trying to enslave the rest of humanity or at least beat it into compliance, zero empathy left, don't even consider themselves human
the other part fights guerrilla warfare and whatever big cheese players they can convince not to get cyberdongs

>>542509835
Really, I don’t think there are many, if any, sci fi properties that couldn’t be adapted into a game of some kind. Even something like IHNMAIMS ended up getting a point and click adventure game. A cool coop/tide game is another matter. Warhammer is probably unsurprisingly the best fit for it by far just from the fact it deals so heavily in absurd numbers and enemies and over the top fun that makes it a prime candidate, which is why we’re here now I guess. But I’m kinda struggling to think of others that would fit besides what’s been said already. Moving away from the mainstream and looking to stuff like novels, something like Hyperion Cantos is damn interesting but likely wouldn’t see much synthesis with any co-op formula. Maybe a Halo spin off in the same spirit as that Flood infected game mode from 4 could be pretty good. I think Fallout can also manage something similar, for all the flaws of 76 its base concept is pretty solid and could work even better under people who have the right idea.
>>542515536
It sucks because I wouldn’t really mind a pre-giga pozzed/Yidsney SW game like a tide game but you just know anyone who makes it is going to set it in the new trilogy era and add in all the egregious shit that comes with that.

>>542590408
Ok but what does this have to do with darktide?

falseflag bait

could see a dead space tide game

>>542585838
>>542588948
>>542589878
You weren't supposed to pick option 5....

>>542590742
Learn to read Rakesh

So uh.... when are we supposed to be getting a new variant for the ogryn's best weapon?

>>542591696
Bitch Psyker has 0 marks and no new staff since launch sit down

>>542592450
The hell is a staff mk gonna do?

>>542591143
too bad, maybe don't write yourself into a corner next time Frank
>guns le bad
why
>because they make anti-gun thing explode! could be catastrophic
okay can I use that to my advantage, like exploding house heads that way?
>NOOOO
why
>because.... uh... others will know it was you, yeah the bald eugenics project nuns will know!
even Tolkien deemed it trash

>>542591696
this but for the plasma gun

>>542592514
You could come up with a lot of options, changing the primary or how the secondary interacts, maybe a new special hmmm? Just give us something you took away our best weapon and then nerfed it.

>>542570614
You bring bolter for boss damage and sniping.
Also veteran gets +50% swap speed at the top of the tree as well which just negates the holstering problem.

>>542592571
Tolkien was a retard who only hated Dune because it exposed how religions like Christianity are psyops used to control the masses. He worked so hard to propagandize people back on to the Abrahamic plantation and Dune came along and torched it.

>>542592571
>>542593459
Tolkien was only alive for some 7 years after Dune was published in '65. There is no way in hell that some literal who sci-fi writer would've managed to get his publications across the pond over to the UK

>>542593797
what the fuck are you even saying
It took Columbus couple of months to reach Bahamas without any navigational charts
surely an Airplane or modern ship could make the trip significantly shorter

>>542593797
He literally wrote a letter seethe posting about how he couldn't finish it cuz it was too negative and anti-Christian. Blud just wanted his sunshine and rainbow good vs evil fantasies.

>>542594087
When I made that post, I had no real reason to believe that Dune developed any form of popularity until later, after Tolkien had died. Apparently one of Herbert's dedicated fans was also one of Tolkien's, and had sent him a copy of it, believing that he would have appreciated it, as I understand. Anyway, that process circumvents normal organic popularity. For some reason I didn't think someone might've just sent it to the man.
>>542594268
Nothing of the sort. He had received Dune from a gentleman named Lanier, and had stated he wouldn't have been able to read it until much later on. The following year, he said that he "intensely disliked it" in a letter to a different person, but never gave any reason why, either in that later, nor in any of his letters written thereafter.

t. Marquette archives

Anyway, Lord of the Rings would probably be a better setting for a -tide game than Dune anyway. Frank Herbert seemed to really hate guns. He probably would've unironically liked Vermintide 2 a lot.

>>542594913
>he "intensely disliked it"
>never gave any reason why
And if you know anything about Tolkien's life, worldview, and themes in his works, you will know exactly what his problems were with Dune. Do you really think he didn't like it cuz the worms freaked him out or some shit? lmao.

>>542595461
That is conjecture.

>>542509835
Undying Mercenaries. Book series about humanity being late to the party on the galactic scene, so they decide to earn money by selling their services as bloodthirsty savages. Every time a human is killed, a fresh clone is produced of him, hence "undying"

>>542595461
>>542595546
Actually you know what? You're probably right.

that didn't take long
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrHiRIcRBf8

>>542593459
so enlightened

>>542596782
read the thread
see >>542584154

>>542597281
that didn't take long

Vermintide 1 will be 10 years old next week
do you think they'll do something for the occasion, maybe announce something? maybe BTU2?

>>542509835
Command and conquer. Play as NOD after Tiberium sun, hear Kane has died (again) fight your way through GDI, mutants and Tiberium creatures.

>>542603336
They will announce the end of service for vermintide 2

>>542603336
"warhammer day" is on the 25th, so maybe something along those lines too

Can someone less retarded than me explain how havoc modifiers are determined?

>>542611350
Like the mission modifiers you get on your assignment? If you mean that then it's just at random.
So if your assignment says "Rotten Armor" + "Corrupted Stimms", then that is exactly what you are getting in that mission.

All havocs above H30 has the Emperor's Fading Light 2 modifier always baked and at that point is when the Auric intensity is triggered.

so is painkillers fun?

>>542616051
been playing it for a few hours now. feels aggressively okay. wish the sfx hit harder and had more oomph to it.

>win 3 havocs in a row thanks to having amazing team then someone has to leave and everyone decides to leave
>lose 9 havocs in a row because people suddenly play like its uprising difficulty and take retarded talents/abilities that their class should never ever take like stealth vet or shield psyker without toughness bubble when its tox gas

>he still posts suggestions on the Fatshark community forums
they aren’t reading it you dumb cunt

My build for making use of the spearhead boltgun. Planning to mostly pop heads with ranged but also got a lot of the damage talents for melee.

>>542605448
It’s Fatshark so they’ll also announce a new map for VT1 and the sickest VT2 skins ever for $35 at the same time.

>>542618426
Here let me fix that for you

>>542618987
Looks good, Ill try it out. Why go 5% grenade chance over guaranteed +20% revive speed thoughbeit?

>>542620132
because kraks are insanely strong?

I give up on havoc, these randoms are so insanely bad

>>542621118
the only tangible reward is at rank 24
grind out the black armor and forget about it

>>542621938
so that means no darktide because they made aurics a complete joke

>>542622128
not much you can do
it takes a full year for Fatshark to make noticeable changes
who knows, maybe they will remember Havoc exists

>>542620132
That node basically gives you infinite grenades in havoc

>actually fell for the onions meme
>feel bloated and gassy as fuck all day
>room smells like Nurgle's asshole
damn, kebabchads weren't lying

anyway, thoughts on the power falchion?
I think it's mediocre, personally

>I'd like nothing better than to wade into that pack of black-skinned scum, but we have other matters to deal with.
what the fuck did he mean by this?

>darktide
*yawn*

>>542623421
It's bad

>>542623421
>thoughts on the power falchion?
they should have made it OP on release so we could be excited about it
as it stands, there is no hype and no reason to use it

>>542623421
>thoughts on the power falchion?
It's okay. I do wish it did more damage though since even when powered it takes like 3-4 hits to the head to kill a mauler.

>>542464070 (OP)
I understand Kruber, Victor, Sienna's motivations and have heard the rumors around Kerillian's curse/exile, but what are Bardin's motivations for sticking around?

Reminder that the "Leave No One Behind" node for Vet gives +20% speed to ALL assist interactions (revives/rescues/nets/ledges) that stacks ADDITIVELY with curios (up to +56% total with three curios)
That means you remove nets in 0.64 seconds and revive/rescue teammates in 1.92 seconds with curios + LNOB.

Further reminder that the +20% movement speed boost it grants "when moving towards a downed/incapacitated ally" applies any time you're looking in the general direction of that ally, regardless of what direction you're actually moving and regardless of what map terrain is between you and the ally

>>542634384
NODE ACTIVATED

>>542581882
XIV was mostly played for several years before it was released on steam. That being said, the game is filled with more cheaters than a dark and darker lobby, avoid at all cost.

>>542634375
he dorf

>>542634887
xiv has been on steam for 10+ years

>>542634375
A dreary tale. Bardin, once an ironbreaker for his hold defending the deep depths. His outpost was ambushed by skaven. The lone survivor and heavily injured he was unable to sound the warning of the impending skaven attack for the main city. The attack killed many dwarfs, including his son.
Feeling guilt for surviving, and punishing himself for not being vigilant enough, Bardin took the job of a Ranger. Taking on the job of roaming far away from his hold, where he would dispatch and report on threats well in advance (and remove himself from the pain of facing his family.)
While Rangering, he came across an encrypted map of a lost hold. Discovering it would allow him to reclaim some honor, and searching for it would let him run away from his problems a while longer.
On the way to Ubersreik, he encountered Kerillian who was being attacked by Skaven. Decided to help her out, and continue his journey to Ubersreik, to find a particular book to help him decipher his map. Once there he certainly couldn't let another city (or new friends) die at skaven hands, or let a threat this large possibly reach his home.

Short version: Survivor's guilt, hates rats, stubbornly avoiding his personal problems

>>542634375
he shamefur dispray

>>542635051
v1.0 released in 2010. Please stop posting if you don't have a single thing to contribute other than misinformation. If it had released on steam the game would not have made it to ARR.

>>542635841
what the hell are you on about

>>542634384
Cool, I'm still not using it.

>>542635731
good and informative post

>>542634887
>>542635841
Interesting. It looks like shit regardless.

>>542622993
What?
>>542623421
Don’t eat thirdie food
>>542623830
Saltz keepin’ if real as usual!

>>542637329
i love rats

>>542635731
>he encountered Kerillian who was being attacked by Skaven.
I would have joined in, bardin is a softy

need tide gf

FUCK man I wish I was just a bit fucking better I ALMOST got 3 fucking animals thru an Auric HISTG by doing fucking everything then ONE NETTER gets me right at the end and the FUCKING GUY STOOD RIGHT BEHIND ME WALKS OVER MY BODY TO KILL THE TRAPPER AND GETS FUCKING LIT UP BY THE WALL OF GUNNERS
ONE FUCKING mistake man I'm so mad at myself.

>invite a second psyker
>it's a smigger
>is retarded

>>542640129
it is just a game

Just watched a "true survivor" Zealot run into open with 10+ gunners clearly visible and instantly eat dirt

>>542623421
It's decent. Not insanely strong but not bad either. A slight damage bump against the tougher elites wouldn't be unwarranted.

I never played VT1 but holy shit, watching footage of it now....WHERE THE FUCK DID ALL THAT SOUL AND ATMOSPHERE GO!?
>Maps were entire towns/plazas with the burning city as its backdrop
>The escapes were done via wagons/carts which kind of gave it those extra L4D escape room vibes (trying to have everyone cram into a single doorway while a hoard is hot on their heels)
>The vast majority of assets were clearly ripped from the first game, sound, models, animations for both 3rd and 1st person...almost makes you wonder what the second game even added on its own
Idk, this was quite the eye opening experience. Did Fatshark fire all the original devs or something? It would explain why darktide is so terrible.

>>542642651
Hop on bro

>>542642651
wizards tower is peak. vt1 was more open so new players hated it and got lost a lot compared to vt2 which has more linear levels and more bosses and enemies

>>542642651
tencent and preparing to sell to tencent

>>542635731
Kerllian was made for skaven gangbangs

>>542640117
every time i post here i get called retarded tho

>>542646058
i would never call you retarded (unless you were being retarded)

>>542635731
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56jAYBzCdeE
weird how tutorial is only on a console

>>542646058
when girls are retarded it's cute and endearing

>>542642651
Admittedly VT2 explicitly didn't cost full price because it was just a VT1+, better suited for longer expansion. But that was the justification they gave for it being cheaper
Also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5i3Vck2qS0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYQKrx4do4M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s2MlZkzq6o
It also had massively better writing. Most of dialogue is dead serious, sensible, natural, fitting the situation. Famous Okri exchange was an exception. VT2 flanderized everyone and is written like a marvel quipfest. Sienna especially cannot shut up about "darlings" now when she barely used that word before, they just wanted to force another meme word, this time for her. In VT2 characters cannot stop quipping during combat, they barely talk normally outside this and don't take situation seriously at all.

>>542650159
VT2 is marvel slop of warhammer fantasy fans

>>542650159
I love Saltzpyre so much it's unreal

>>542641763
True Survivors are just people who listened to some wannabe raid leader guide them from bubble to bubble, I'd take a Poxbreaker or a Budding Interrogator any day.

>>542650159
sovke

>>542652692
If it's so easy to get, then how come you don't have it?

>>542653491
I’m about halfway through damnation

>>542653741
nta but I had a "True Survivor" vet go down and outright die multiple times the other gay last time I played, in Damnation when I was screwing around on Zealot. It was embarrassing. I don't think I've seen Budding Int's go down ever unless it's a complete wipe.

>>542653491
I do, now post your banners

Playable Tau in Darktide when?

>>542654229
>vermin pedo still thinking his game is relevant
Lol?

>>542654376
woah now what's with the allegations, kerillian is a grown woman she can do what she wants

>>542654506
Those rats are only a few months old you suck fuck.

>>542654663
I'm a Skaven primary, I would never hurt the rats.

rat sex with aqshy

>>542639728
Kek
>>542646029
Shut up jeet

Playable Tau in Darktide now .

>>542646058
well that’s because you’re not a girl duh
>>542648980
trvth

>>542655397
i am a girl (Female)

>>542656139
Retard

goddamn it

>>542654339
xenos will have a diverse variety of roles as cocksleeves

>>542656139
whoa mama

>>542650159
Grim. Such a shame we couldn’t have the improved mechanics of 2 and the general kino-ness of 1. It’s just one step forward two steps back with fartshart, always.

>>542656139
Prove it. Favorite class to main?

>>542657128
TRVKE

>>542658215
to be fair, most games do that on a sequel
l4d2 is the only exception that comes to mind

please play this game.. please

>>542659510
EYE2 never.

>>542488540
that's just not true, darktide was my first entry into 40k and i doubt i'm the only one
this general was all about VT2 before darktide came out, those players didn't just leave and get replaced, they switched to darktide because it's frankly the better game

Playable Tau in Darktide any time now.
>>542657128
>diverse variety of roles as
Handholders, kissing partners, and wives.

>>542658404
dog tamer

>>542659510
costs too many brouzoufs

>>542660365
stop

the 3 worst players i have ever had in an auric match

>>542661670
>1.5k damage taken each
>on fucking veteran
>15 deaths in 33 minutes
>150k damage in 33 minutes on veteran
how

>>542661670
How do you even win matches like that?

>>542661878
He just flailed around with his chainsword for the brief moments that he was alive

>>542662072
By matching with me

>>542662265
Autist Exemplar?

>>542662072
You're halfway to solo'ing the mission with 3 teammates that need such hard carrying. Mostly, they're only going to be good for distracting mobs while you work to clear the screen. Once you've played the game long enough, you'll be able to put the backpacks on and succeed as well.

>>542662313
Poxbreaker

>>542662072
Most aurics have at least one player of such caliber, some 2, and very rarely you get 3. You get used to it, and git gud at carrying retards.
Shit like this is why most seasoned players will tell you that your build needs to be able to handle every armor/enemy type, because your 3 retards regularly do the exact opposite.
It's why I say that flamer zealot is bad in aurics because you can't kill snipers reliably. Ceilings, grates or simply distance will regularly make hitting them with knives almost impossible. Same shit with ogryn not bringing an accurate secondary, even if rumbler is overpowered otherwise.

>>542661475
Stop asking for Fatshark to do something good? Never. Playable Tau now.

someone give me a brain dead arbites build
please

>>542662638
>Shit like this is why most seasoned players will tell you that your build needs to be able to handle every armor/enemy type, because your 3 retards regularly do the exact opposite.
Extreme truth.
I wouldn't even say flamer is bad in Aurics, per se. You just need to be able to play around its shortcomings. It's generally not too difficult to play around snipers that can't be handled yet (although your teammates will disagree by refusing to line of sight ever, but you don't have to die with them). What'll really get you is if you run the flamer with a melee that you can't fall back on to handle everything the game can throw at you since reloading the damn thing as the last man alive is practically impossible without mitigating factors (like stuns or pathing abuse). Apologies for the ACKSHUALLY-tier response

>>542662906
Just take Castigator's stance and win most engagements.

>>542663072
>spoiler
I mean you're correct for the most part, I just disagree with letting my retards die to the sniper in the first place. Killing snipers should be everyone's job at all times, and assuming the other guy will do it is what causes downs, whether your own, or someone else's. I assume that if I let a sniper live for long enough to fire more than once, at least two of my retards are dying to it.

>>542662906
Take Shield + Maul and one of the Arby shotguns
>Spam BTL at elite packs for constant damage and strength bonus and CC
>Use shield flashbang liberally
>Dog shock when other CCs wear off
>Have tons of damage reduction and toughness
>Be practically unkillable while shitting out CC and damage

>>542531143
>>542536349
The pale hobos are "groaners", the mutated hobos are poxwalkers. The main difference is groaners are "unarmored", while poxwalkers are "infested", and poxwalkers have a bit higher stats. I'm pretty sure fatshark meant for this to have some implications for builds, but I've never had to worry about anything less resilient than flak armored enemies either. Oh and the infested guardsmen are the Moebian 21st. They were first introduced in an event, then showed up as a havoc modifier, and I guess they're now sprinkled into regular hordes as well.

>>542663431
You're not wrong. I've just abandoned the escort quest at this point.

>>542659961
Don’t respond to bad brown bait
>>542662784
>>542660365
Aeldari are the superior cocksleeves

>>542663578
>not taking Canine Morale
Builds like these are why people call the dog bad.
This would be better off either pathing left near the top, or pathing through dog aura to save a point.
Unless your logic is that ASS-let pubbies are literal useless deadweights and no amount of toughness regen auras is going to help them, in which case, sure.

>>542663578
retard

>>542662906
Don't listen to this retard >>542663578

>misinfo arbitrator troll anon is samefagging again but refusing to post a build or give reasons why it works
>>>/b/ is over that way

>>542664052
It's completely redundant in a build with already a metric fuckton of DR and toughness regen.

>>542665230
>b-but how do you KNOW shit tastes bad?!

>>542665350
Oh I agree, I'd just feel fucking retarded not taking the best aura available to my class (Canine Morale) when I'm already meeting all the prerequisites, and taking it barely loses me any damage in both cases.
If you're that insistent on damage, I think you'd be better off using a different melee, instead of sacrificing Canine Morale. The damage output of a fully damage built arbitrator is pretty retarded with high DPS weapons.

when will arbys go on sale

>>542666160
Never because it barely costs anything as is

>>542666160
>tfw haven't had arby's in forever

>>542665842
>Canine Morale
>aura
Niggawat.

Anyway, you agree that it's redundant but, for some reason, feel retarded not taking it. That doesn't make sense to me.
>that insistent on damage
I put fairly minimal points into damage. Most of it comes from spamming BTL, which is also a source of CC and toughness regen, or the "you're probably retarded if you skip these" point on the bottom left. Yes, though, I did prioritize the attack speed up top over saving a point because attack speed is both an offensive and defensive tool, and it's very effective at each. There's no way I would ever want to take No Escape over Hammer of Judgement, and Target Neutralized is better toughness regen than Canine Morale. Yes, you lose some TDR. But with Hold The Line, Forceful, and Imposing Force coupled with the ocean of toughness you will drown in, it doesn't matter. Damage and CC become
>The damage output of a fully damage built arbitrator is pretty retarded with high DPS weapons.
Yes, and? Anon asked for brain dead, not optimal. Spamming CC with tons of DR and toughness and a dog to save you from other dogs/muties is about as braindead as it gets.

>>542666348
>>Canine Morale
>>aura
>Niggawat.
It's effectively an aura.

>>542666348
>Damage and CC become
become the priority at that point, regardless of what kind of build you're shooting for, and you'd be silly to give them up in favor of something that doesn't bring you much actual benefit.
I accidentally the sentence, I guess.

>>542666563
Still isn't an aura

>>542666652
>getting autistically hung up on semantics
I almost forgot where I was.

>>542666652
Retarded bitch

>>542666724
Yes, imagine caring about specifics that actually impact talent selection and discussion. Boggles the mind.

>>542509835
This post and its responses make me realize just how vast science fiction is. I haven’t heard of most of these. That said sci fi games really are kino and I wish there were more of them in the vein of some of the suggestions here.

I really like Darktide bros!

>>542666892
Everyone was smart enough to understand it except you

Let that sink in

>>542669194
You're still upset about this shit?

>>542669768
We're right and you're wrong

>>542669949
lel okay

>>542669995
Piece of shit

Are there any proven benefits to letting sinks in?

>>542663578
what is this retarded dogshit fucking build? what kind of a faggot would ever use this?

>psyker/vet/arbites/vet
that was a nice game

Wait so the big update of q3 2025 was... a power falchion? That's just a copypasted relic blade mechanic ontop of a copypasted devils claw sword? And tweaks to numbers? And nothing else new? Literally nothing?
I hate to say it and maybe I am late to coming to this conclusion but this games development is over isn't it

>>542671796
You forgot guy with plasmagun.

>>542662906
here's mine
the new shotgun that has a horizontal spread does a lot of damage. it can snipe most things with one or three headshots.

>>542671467
sinks are bro tier

>>542671952
Plasma gunners went from ass raping your penis hole the instant they show up to being less threatening than gunners

Why is Darktide always on sale?

>>542671796
Hey now, there was a copy pasted shotgunner wit a plasma gun as well!

>>542672015
He means "braindead easy" not "made by a braindead person"

>>542672316
post YOUR good build then

I can't get over the dish plate strapped to the knee

>>542672136
Because the cosmetic shop is the real breadwinner

>>542672418
Nope

>>542672449
Is that /k/ approved?

>>542672497
Not when they keep doing shit rotations it's not.

>>542672316
that's how easy it is to win with it

>>542672418
It's probably (one of) the shitposter(s) who just mindlessly talks shit and samefags. Ignore him.
That said, there is stuff you could (and should) change about it. The block talents up top aren't great, and you should be taking CDR from EO. Also, Target the Weak is multiplicative damage and should be picked up. I'm personally not a fan of Nuncio AND think it's the least braindead of the 3 abilities, but that's whatever. You also picked the worst first row talent (your +damage talents will still affect ranged weapons, so that 15% isn't super valuable). Also, Concussive is highly desirable, at the very least for monsters.

>>542673072
Still is

Why is Rattide free like half of the time?

>>542673228
you should remove the nine and zero keys from your keyboard

>>542673695
nah

>>542673454
they sacrificed its raped corpse to rake in the pesos and yuans due to it being centuries old at this point

Why do zealots insist on playing this trash in havoc? Every time I see this I know the mission will be a waste of time. The measly amount of damage you deal with chastise doesn't make up for an aoe stagger and yellow toughness.

>>542674702
They are turbo coping with the fact that zealot isn't a damage class by trying to force as much damage as physically possible, only to still be outperformed by the arbitrator.
Also some jewtuber said it was okay to run this in havoc, and retards listen to them, not understanding that jewtubers only play in close-knit premades while yapping in discord.

>>542673228
gracias amigo, i didn't notice the things you mentioned

>>542675651
Sure thing. Walk It Off, in particular, is nice because it works while blocking and doing so many other actions as well. You don't actually block all that often, but you sprint and push or push attack regularly.

>>542676272
wouldnt you be around the dog more

>>542676489
That node's good too. Either works fine. You just don't have as much control with it, so I don't care for it as much. A lot of the time you really need toughness, you're going to be doing something that drains stamina anyway (blocking rager packs, sprinting and sliding around ranged fire, pushing groups of shit) whereas the dog may or may not be within range. I will admit though that I'm not super familiar with dog behavior, and it wouldn't surprise me to learn that the dog was within range most of the time anyway so long as you don't take the ranged priority node for the dog.
Either option is better than the block one, basically.

>>542668102
missing comma so I assume you like me o3o

The next tide game will be Age of Smegmar and focus on solely undead so they can recycle darktide fodder animations.

Wait, why is there not an inspect character button in VT2?!

>>542679467
WAIT WHY ARE THERE NO TRINKETS EITHER?!

falseflag/10 - things nobody cares about

>>542680135
>STOP TALKING ABOUT HOW MUCH BETTER THE FIRST GAME IS
Fuck you, fatshark employee why the fuck did you niggers remove all of these cool features from the game?

>>542680536
Because it takes dev time therefore costs money.

>best player on the team tries to solo the 10% hp boss instead of picking up the dead weight teammates + me (semi-dead weight)
>dies
we were so close

Just started playing Darktide, how many millennia is it gonna take me to save up the 350,000 gold for the Ogryn helmet + sunglasses? I'm level 11.

>>542681049
>tries to pick you up
>boss staggers him
Genius

i have no idea how i can grind through darktide but trying to grind through SM2 is like its sucking out my soul

>>542681221
there was time I was there

>>542682248
Darktide is fun and sm2 isn't