/coopg/ - Cooperative Games General
Obelix edition
Previously on /coopg/:
>>542178451
>Latest News/Updates:
Vermintide 2:
Hotfix 6.7.2
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/pc-hotfix-6-7-2/112401
Darktide:
Hotfix #79 - 1.9.3 - Patch Notes
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-79-1-9-3-patch-notes/113366
Jump Space is in early access
>Acknowledged but not really discussed
Ready Or Not
Starship Troopers Extermination
Aliens: Fireteam Elite
Killing Floor 2
Barotrauma
Left4Dead 2
SCP: 5K
GTFO
No More Room in Hell 2
Helldivers 2
Space Marine 2
Remnant 2
Payday 3
Back4Blood
Deep Rock Galactic
Earth Defense Force 6
WWZ
The Outlast Trials
The Forever Winter
FBC: Firebreak
Killing Floor 3
Daimon Blades
and others
>Future games
Den Of Wolves - TBA
DarkSwarm - TBA
Blight: Survival - TBA
Deep Dish Dungeon - TBA
Build planners:
Vermintide 2:
http://ranaldsgift.com/
Deep Rock Galactic:
http://karl.gg/
Darktide:
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 7:42:53 AM
No.542464259
Bound by doody
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 7:43:31 AM
No.542464303
Took you long enough
When i say "now" i mean right fucking now, bitch
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 7:45:09 AM
No.542464415
>>542464479
>>542466845
DARKTIDE POLEARMS FUCKING WHEEEEEEN
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 7:46:13 AM
No.542464479
>>542464531
>>542464415
The pickaxes
More will come with the admech class
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 7:46:56 AM
No.542464531
>>542464619
>>542464479
they should give the ogryn a pike
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 7:47:16 AM
No.542464561
>rotten armor two cycles in a row
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 7:48:03 AM
No.542464619
>>542464531
With big monster damage for anti-large specialization
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 8:23:56 AM
No.542466845
>>542464415
I think it's a bit unlikely that they would be able to balance the reach those weapons could have. Especially Ogryn ones
Not that itβs really even an option for me right now but Iβm kinda passingly curious all the same: for the tabletop fags, how worth it is it to try to get into in current year? Assuming finances and whatnot werenβt an issue. What would I need to know/do?
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 9:46:54 AM
No.542472115
Crazy how block cost reduction literally doesn't do shit for the slab shield
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 9:49:59 AM
No.542472289
>>542510171
>>542471390
>>>/tg/96742679
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 10:10:21 AM
No.542473638
>>542510171
>>542471390
3d printed probably since GW doesn't sell the infantry kits anymore for Steel Legion, but the tanks are the same but with a different coat of paint
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 10:31:26 AM
No.542475009
>>542475363
The next Darktide update will have all of these:
Rinda Karnak returning as Plague Bearer riding a Rot Fly
Genestealer cult faction (Beastmen 2)
Red items made from Morbian steel
Chaos Wastes mode
Eldar Ranger class voiced by Kerillian VA
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 10:36:32 AM
No.542475363
>>542475009
>Mirinda sister of Sprite returning
most likely
>Jeans stealers
for now red herring
>Red items
bit too early
>Gayos Wastes
hah no, they probably wanted to nail down proc gen for that but still lack manpower
>Eldar Kerillian
no, Fem Aribtrator Maul already is already voice by her
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 10:40:16 AM
No.542475609
holy crap if darktide were vermintide 2 it would be 2020 right now...
Haven't touched Vermintide 2 in years, as you can see in pic related, but I've gotten the urge to dive back in.
If I remember correctly, I think I stopped playing shortly after Fatshit gave all players temporary free access to the Shadows over BΓΆgenhafen maps in 2018.
Can I get a QRD on how much (or how little) the game has improved since I stopped playing?
One thing I particularly want to know is if they've fixed the loot system to make it less grindy and timewasting. I vaguely remember something about red dust.
Also, how much (or how little) have they sanctioned from the modded realm that you can play in the official realm? I remember it took Fatshark ages to approve anything from the modded realm.
On a final note, I notice the game has accumulated a ton of DLC since 2018, all of which seem to be bundled as part of a Legacy Collection that is currently on sale. Is the collection as a whole worth it or is it filled with a lot of useless shit?
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 10:53:44 AM
No.542476537
>>542477127
>>542475873
its somewhat different. the core structure is in place but many many career weapons and equipment and even a few map changes
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 10:56:16 AM
No.542476732
>>542477127
>>542475873
not sure about the exact timeline but here
>2019
Winds of Magic releases along with cataclysm difficulty, Beastmen were buggy and not well received, they have been toned down a bit but still annoying
>2020
Grail Knight Career DLC for Kruber and Bardin's Outcast engineer
it was a stretch and a half making him a Grail Knight (his ancestor was a giga chad bretonnian that got chased out by jealous fag)
Bardin's career was kind of mid on release, better now that he can produce bombs
>2021
Chaos Wastes mode released, roguelite adventure linked by maps, each map can have modifiers attached to it, along the map you can aquire blessings (like every X strike deal guaranteed crit or your crits make chaing lightning etc...)
each week different chaos god resided at the end with their own modifiers
since then mode received a few overhauls(new blessings, monsters with modifiers like immunity to ranged attack or stagger) and Belakor was added as a bonus round map
>Kerillian Class DLC
the most obnoxious and OP shit imaginable, after it got nerfed people cried for months
>Warrior Priest for Saltzpyre Career
not the strongest but it was fun regardless, pack came with few new weapons that were cool
>Sienna the Negromancer
it's okay even if skellies are distracting
>maps
we also received like 4(or was it 5?) seperate campaigns with their chapters free of charge, long ass maps with a lot of gimmicky objectives
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 11:02:05 AM
No.542477127
>>542477343
>>542481636
>>542476732
>>542476537
Thanks.
It seems like Chaos Wastes is very interesting. I love roguelites.
What about the loot system? Have they made grinding for optimized red gear that allows you reach breakpoints less tedious and timewasting?
Also, now that I remember: Is stupid shit like the green boss walls still in the game?
And have they fixed bot AI so that solo play with bots is now actually reasonable instead of forcing you to babysit retarded AI that can even unintentionally triggers patrols?
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 11:05:08 AM
No.542477343
>>542477880
>>542477127
>What about the loot system? Have they made grinding for optimized red gear that allows you reach breakpoints less tedious and timewasting?
nope
>Also, now that I remember: Is stupid shit like the green boss walls still in the game?
Yes
>And have they fixed bot AI so that solo play with bots is now actually reasonable instead of forcing you to babysit retarded AI that can even unintentionally triggers patrols?
there were some improvements, but you will still see A.I legding itself or not reviving you despite being in the spitting distance with no enemies
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 11:13:51 AM
No.542477880
>>542481636
>>542477343
Thanks again.
God, Fatshit is so retarded.
Imagine being 8 years into the release of your game and you still haven't fixed the basic pathfinding issue of bots accidentally suiciding themselves off of ledges.
I'm reading through forums and it seems like they're still shit, even with modded realm mods.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 11:14:51 AM
No.542477941
>>542510171
>>542471390
Why the fuck would you ask this here and not /tg/?
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 11:30:38 AM
No.542478957
I'm going to hurt you now!
Lucky bullet description
>15% chance of triggering lucky bullet and not consuming ammo on ranged attacks.
What lucky bullet actually does:
>15% chance of shooting twice in a row on single click (or three times if you have max back off! stacks) without consuming ammo. 20% chance of your shot not consuming any ammunition.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 12:13:01 PM
No.542481636
>>542477127
>>542477880
bot pathfinding isn't really much of an issue, the worst thing that happens is them getting stuck on some corner but that usually fixes itself quickly and i don't remember the last time i've seen bots ledge themselves
also they can fight just fine even on cata if you equip them properly but they will still act retarded from time to time, and sometimes they'll chase down specials instead of shooting them which can fuck you over on cata but thankfully this doesn't happen very often at all to me
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 12:34:01 PM
No.542482990
>>542483015
>>542495904
>>542479549
>extra 30% weak spot damage
>actually increases your weak spot multiplier by 1.3, the extra 30% being unscalable
How many vets make this one simple mistake?
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 12:34:24 PM
No.542483015
>>542483383
>>542482990
w-what does this mean?
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 12:40:14 PM
No.542483383
>>542483015
It means Hadron is very disappointed in you
post this elf.
kerillians VA will be at a con soon, should I get something signed?
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 12:53:06 PM
No.542484152
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 12:57:44 PM
No.542484435
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 12:58:43 PM
No.542484487
>>542484028
Print a screenshot of her feet
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 1:01:49 PM
No.542484690
>>542484028
Have her sign a female arbites image
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 1:02:51 PM
No.542484759
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 1:07:20 PM
No.542485028
>>542486101
>>542484028
posting this elf.
dunno if you should get something signed, if you have something cool for her to sign then sure
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 1:17:23 PM
No.542485615
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 1:25:56 PM
No.542486101
>>542511150
>>542485028
was thinking this as unfortunately I don't own a WHFB wood elf armybook
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 1:36:38 PM
No.542486716
>>542486891
>>542479549
How can you be this stupid
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 1:39:08 PM
No.542486891
>>542488143
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 1:39:31 PM
No.542486924
>>542487020
When is Darktide getting whatever the 40k equivalent is to Sack Rats
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 1:41:10 PM
No.542487020
>>542486924
Impossible to code for current Fatshark
So do people not like darktide or what? I've been having a lot of fun with vermintide 2 with my friends.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 1:57:23 PM
No.542488143
>>542491568
>>542486891
"15% chance of not consuming ammo" and "15% chance of shooting twice" are functionally identical. You shoot twice because the first shot consumed no ammo and you continued to hold the trigger long enough to buffer a second shot.
And "20% chance of your shot not consuming ammunition" is simply wrong.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 1:58:52 PM
No.542488245
>>542487627
most anons already played both games, just handful of schizos insisting that their game is "superior" and any time you bring up flaws they are having worse meltdown than Chernobyl reactor
>>542487627
people who tend to like darktide are 40k fans, and 40k fans are notorious for ONLY liking 40k and wont try anything else, so they wont play VT2, DRG, L4D2 etc despite those games being WAY better
they're not fans of co-op games, they're fans of 40k games, regardless of it's quality (unless of course its an RTS or CRPG because they're not shooters)
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 2:04:26 PM
No.542488656
>>542488540
But I like Darktide and have played those games
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 2:17:36 PM
No.542489627
>>542490895
>>542487627
Why would you think that? 80% of the discussion here is darktide. Much of it is complaining, but if we truly didn't like the game, we would just play something else instead of caring enough to voice our opinions. It's still a fundamentally good game with good base gameplay, it could just be handled differently in a few ways.
Vermintide is awesome. Most people like both games. They're like 60% the same anyway.
>>542488540
This is absolutely untrue. Both parts. It's true for a handful of samples and you're going off the deep end.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 2:25:37 PM
No.542490231
>>542447484
Flame staff also has great cc with left click. If it's a fat pack of crushers I will just get to max stacks with soul blaze real quick and then cc bot for my team so they can mulch em down.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 2:35:16 PM
No.542490895
>>542489627
nu-40k fans wont even try a different edition of 40k, let alone a different game altogether
they will buy 40k games for the sake of it being 40k, nothing more
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 2:36:57 PM
No.542491030
>>542488540
trvthvke
many who like dorktide are also often retarded and/or mentally ill, and those who think that it's good are definitely both
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 2:42:24 PM
No.542491421
>>542491854
release me from this rotten hell, can't we have new modifiers?
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 2:44:19 PM
No.542491568
>>542495470
>>542488143
Even if i tapfire the gun will shoot twice or more in a row. You can test this out yourself with kickback or rumbler with lucky bullet.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 2:48:00 PM
No.542491854
>>542491421
I dont really understand what determines the modifiers but ever since my havoc missions stopped being stims + rotten armor combo (its just stims now?) i completed 5 missions in a row.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 2:51:27 PM
No.542492118
>>542492296
>>542495937
>log in
>get free helmet from a community mission
But enough about good games, when is Darktide gonna give us something that isn't just a fucking frame?
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 2:53:36 PM
No.542492296
>>542492118
Wish granted. 3 free weapon charms to celebrate Barktide.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 3:05:18 PM
No.542493223
>>542497246
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 3:24:26 PM
No.542494662
>>542494883
So the ideal Havoc comp is Arby Psyker Veteran Zealot?
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 3:27:00 PM
No.542494883
>>542494662
More like three Arbyβs and an Ogryn with Heavy Stubber and Pickaxe
The fact that bots are even capable of accidentally ledging (regardless of how common or rare you think it happens) when enemies don't do that is proof that Fatshark deliberately designed to be weak and retarded.
These are bots.
They could be designed to have perfect aim, perfect dodges, perfect movement and wallhacks. Obviously, I'm not saying Fatshark should do that, as that would be overpowered, but I'm just saying that it's possible to make them that way.
So there's nothing stopping Fatshark from at least making them able to traverse terrain with a 100% guaranteed chance of never accidentally ledging.
There's also nothing stopping Fatshark from doing what other games do with NPC companions when they accidentally fall into lethal holes, which is to have them respawn right back on safe ground.
Fatshark deliberately did not provide bots with any of these basic courtesies.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 3:33:58 PM
No.542495470
>>542500908
>>542491568
that's an issue with the gun, not the keystone
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 3:37:16 PM
No.542495742
>>542496089
>>542495419
I wouldnβt be surprised if they were using the decision tree for special spawns as a pathfinding solution, as a quick fix that never got updated.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 3:39:18 PM
No.542495904
>>542482990
what the fuck are you talking about
+1.3 would be fucking huge, no way it's true
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 3:39:38 PM
No.542495937
>>542492118
The Barktide post had 5 pets including from photos clearly taken at home. If a conservative 1/3 of employees have a pet, there are 15 people working on Darktide including community support.
Meaning probably about 3-5 actual developers. Youβre getting everything they can put out.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 3:41:02 PM
No.542496046
>>542496124
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST FIX THESE LOADOUT BUGS
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 3:41:31 PM
No.542496089
>>542496331
>>542497351
>>542495742
nah the bot logic is custom and a dedicated AI tree, you can go look at it in the decompiled source code
What I suspect (but haven't confirmed) is that they didn't paint certain parts of the map with flags to indicate it's a ledge so the AI literally cannot detect it shouldn't jump off a cliff there
For whatever reason a lot of flags and triggers like that are manually set rather than being dynamically determined - presumably it's more efficient that way, but it also means that the devs need to not fuck up when they're building maps (Fatshark challenge: impossible)
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 3:41:54 PM
No.542496124
>>542496046
H40 no talent true survivor clear or ur bad
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 3:44:05 PM
No.542496331
>>542511359
>>542496089
Surprisingly competent but by no means will I ever corrupt my pure academic logic and financial sector scripting education with whatever technoheresy is going on under the hood of this hot mess.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 3:47:36 PM
No.542496654
Iβll clear the board with Fatshark if they give me their UE5 Darktide 2 slop for at least 50% off at launch, as a victim of Darktide.
Otherwise I will buy the game just to ruin runs, leave a bad review, and ruin community discussion by being obnoxiously vocal in an annoyingly positive way about the game - tainting the image of fans in an irreparable way.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 3:48:22 PM
No.542496710
>>542496838
>silo cluster
never will I nope out of a mission faster than this
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 3:49:58 PM
No.542496838
>>542497807
>>542497860
>>542496710
the game would be far more enjoyable if rewards for failed runs scaled better with completion percentage or individual performance
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 3:54:40 PM
No.542497246
>>542493223
nu-40k fans only play space marine 2 and darktide
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 3:55:36 PM
No.542497351
>>542497601
>>542499452
>>542496089
>is that they didn't paint certain parts of the map with flags to indicate it's a ledge so the AI literally cannot detect it shouldn't jump off a cliff there
So is that what pic related fixes? Or is bot pathfinding with pic related active still as wonky?
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 3:56:00 PM
No.542497392
>>542497703
>>542574393
Is Fatshark the most monkey paw coded dev?
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 3:58:29 PM
No.542497601
>>542497351
>that workshop image
SOVL
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 3:59:37 PM
No.542497703
>>542497392
that would imply they ever do anything positive
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:00:44 PM
No.542497807
>>542496838
silo cluster fails before the first drop down though
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:01:17 PM
No.542497860
>>542500474
>>542496838
What do mats have to do with mission satisfaction? Do you enjoy missions because of the payout, rather than because they're fun to play? Why would getting some plasteel make it more fun to teamwipe
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:07:22 PM
No.542498420
>>542499603
a handful of shillings to anyone who can provide some current footage of bots ledging themselves
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:17:37 PM
No.542499382
>>542475873
>Legacy Collection that is currently on sale. Is the collection as a whole worth it or is it filled with a lot of useless shit?
You want it if you intend to play it again. Careers being fun aside, weapons tied to all those dlcs are much more important and usable on vanilla classes too. Being cucked out of Cata is bad too, even if they loosened restrictions, it was still not enough
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:18:25 PM
No.542499452
>>542499747
>>542500896
>>542497351
the guy who made this mod made it as a fix and replacement for "Bot Improvements - Combat" mod because that mod was unsanctioned because of pic related and it looks like the author of it won't be updating it any time soon
and the description doesn't mention anything about tweaking their pathfinding, which i don't think there's any major issue with anyway
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:20:09 PM
No.542499603
>>542501323
>>542498420
On VT2 or Darktide?
Had a bot walk off ledge in Darktide yesterday on the first room with enemies on Ascension Riser 31 after having cleared it. Can try to replicate it later.
>>542499452
wtf is "sanctioning"
How are they going to stop someone from installing a mod
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:23:35 PM
No.542499920
>>542500356
>2025
>No new dlc with cosmetics for Darktide, only the old imperial edition
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:29:02 PM
No.542500356
>>542501856
>>542499920
go to the slopshop, goy
>NMRIH2
mixed 63%
>KillingFloor3
mixed 49%
>Darktide
mixed 69% (recent reviews: mostly positive 74%)
>Borderlands4
mixed 64%
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:30:34 PM
No.542500474
>>542501247
>>542497860
>Why would getting some plasteel make it more fun to teamwipe
Because at least then we can work to perfecting weapons/curios so it doesn't feel like such a defeat, especially if the wipe isn't directly your fault.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a recent Alien co-op game with an isometric angle that apparently was quite good? Does anyone remember the name? Or is that just a figment of my imagination?
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:32:58 PM
No.542500712
>>542505068
>>542500625
just your imagination
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:33:23 PM
No.542500743
>>542501010
>>542500364
Why are coopchuds so negative and toxic?
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:33:34 PM
No.542500767
>>542501927
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:34:49 PM
No.542500896
>>542502441
>>542499452
I miss that mod. Made the bots better than most pubs. Now bots are worse than the average pub.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:34:54 PM
No.542500908
>>542501927
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:35:38 PM
No.542500964
>>542501039
>>542499747
a sanctioned mod can be used in the official realm
all other mods can be used in the modded realm
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:36:05 PM
No.542501010
>>542500743
because coop franchises, with the exception of l4d, have ALL turned to shit by the second or third iteration
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:36:21 PM
No.542501039
>>542501435
>>542500964
And how is that enforced
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:38:33 PM
No.542501247
>>542501513
>>542500474
If you're playing content that isn't something you can single-handedly carry, you shouldn't be bringing half-baked weaponry in the first place, so the materials shouldn't matter because you've already purchased and upgraded your gear.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:38:56 PM
No.542501279
>>542501927
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:39:19 PM
No.542501323
>>542501751
>>542499603
VT2 because i never see it happen, i've seen how lobotomized darktide bots are
You will NOT play solo
You WILL get your teammates replaced with lobotomites when they inevitably disconnect/crash due to our shitcode
You WILL lose your havoc run due to this and you WILL be happy
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:40:26 PM
No.542501435
>>542501609
>>542501927
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:41:26 PM
No.542501513
>>542501791
>>542501247
Or we have secondary weapon sets we are upgrading while we play with our current maxed weapons, autism anon. Not every wipe is your fault, some plasteel as a "you'll get them next time" isn't going to hurt anyone.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:42:31 PM
No.542501609
>>542501698
>>542501435
What is retarded about that question
In Darktide you can use any mod you want and Fatshark has no control over it.
Apparently this wasn't the case in Vermintide, but since I haven't played it I don't know how that works. Why are you so pissy about this, anyway?
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:43:35 PM
No.542501698
>>542501927
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:43:48 PM
No.542501725
>>542502376
>>542501424
>teammates will randomly disconnect or be replaced by nonfunctional bots
Sounds like solo mode to me, problem solved.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:44:10 PM
No.542501751
>>542501323
On VT2 i've only seen it happen on the new maps like the one with a bunch of portals connecting to different rehashed areas. It's definately rarer though so either the bot AI or the maps are better designed.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:44:40 PM
No.542501791
>>542501927
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:45:20 PM
No.542501856
>>542500356
The current rotation is shit and fatshark could recycle old unreleased stuff from game files
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:46:06 PM
No.542501927
>>542501984
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:46:47 PM
No.542501984
>>542502052
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:47:32 PM
No.542502052
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:48:01 PM
No.542502089
>>542502335
>>542502585
>>542501424
>You will NOT play solo
BOSCO!
>You WILL get your teammates replaced with lobotomites when they inevitably disconnect/crash due to our shitcode
lol no, solo lobby
>You WILL lose your havoc run due to this and you WILL be happy
what in the ever loving fuck is "Havoc"?
anyway back to mines
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:49:07 PM
No.542502187
nuffinβ wronβ witβ ogryn
>>542500364
>VT2
Very Positive 89%
>L4D2
Overwhelmingly Positive 97%
>DRG
Overwhelmingly Positive 97%
the real co-op games run /coopg/
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:50:38 PM
No.542502335
>>542502089
I fucking love DRG but Iβm so tired of driller primaries and I refuse to play without muh drillz
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:51:00 PM
No.542502376
>>542501725
I want to play the shitty forced uprising difficulty missions on a new character solo instead of waiting 10 minutes for brand new players to slowly waddle over to the elevator/checkpoint room/whatever
I dont want bots in the actually difficult gamemode when they dont even register basic stuff like a sniper aiming and shooting at them.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:51:44 PM
No.542502441
>>542500896
the thing that i miss the most from it is bots pinging elites, though that feature was broken for quite a while before the mod itself was unsanctioned
>Now bots are worse than the average pub.
no way, i can clear full book legend runs solo with bots no problem and they can dodge dance monsters almost perfectly better than most players, they can even hold their own in cata while i sometimes have trouble carrying retards in legend
i recently played a few games on cata solo with bots and it went way smoother then i expected, i even had sott bot keep a Stormvermin aggroed to it solo at the barn in Against the Grain while i was dealing with the horde, even managed to do Skittergate with them and the hardest part of that by far was the final boss
>>542502270
>game is good because le people say so!!!!!!!11
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:53:00 PM
No.542502554
>>542502459
go ahead and tell me why VT2, DRG, or L4D2 are bad games
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:53:21 PM
No.542502585
>>542502684
>>542502089
Sorry but i lost interest in deep cock after i got all the overclocks and the devs lost interest long before that.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:53:39 PM
No.542502607
>>542502459
But enough about Darktide
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:54:34 PM
No.542502684
>>542502808
>>542502585
In fairness the devs are working on rogue core right now
They did say they'd continue to release updates for both games once it's out
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:55:56 PM
No.542502808
>>542503103
>>542502684
NTA but I remember they said this like almost 2 years ago?
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:56:12 PM
No.542502826
>>542502459
uh oh darktide fan having a melty!
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:57:20 PM
No.542502953
Daimon Blades > DRG = L4D2 > VT2 > Helldivers 2 > Darktide > Borderlands 4 > NMRIH2 > Killing Floor 3 > Payday 3
shit I completely forgot about daimon blades
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:59:01 PM
No.542503103
>>542502808
Yeah, and it's taking them more than two years to finish rogue core
Ghost Ship does at least have a track record of actually delivering on their promises, even if they are slow
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 4:59:12 PM
No.542503124
>>542503050
so did everyone else
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 5:00:34 PM
No.542503251
>>542579120
>>542503050
to be fair so did everyone else
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 5:03:18 PM
No.542503478
>>542503543
>>542503619
>>542502270
Yeah im thinking they won.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 5:03:57 PM
No.542503543
>>542503478
Based dungeon dweller
DRG would be pretty bad under Fatshark's hands
>Weapons and tools needs all the minerals to upgrade
>More or less 90% of cosmetics locked behind slop shop rotation with some one never returning for years
>No paintjobs and skin rewards in events, etc
>>542503478
this game is in that really weird cross-section of "kinda sucks ass" and "really fun"
Not surprised there's both very high reviews and no active players
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 5:05:00 PM
No.542503635
>>542501424
I wish it was possible to play offline. Fewer things are more demoralizing in VT2 than to have your run completely fail because the game's shitty server disconnects mere seconds before you enter the Bridge of Shadows. Or you enter the Bridge of Shadows and the game bugs out, crashes to desktop, and acts as if the last 20 minutes didn't happen.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 5:05:45 PM
No.542503707
>>542504108
>>542503580
>weapons and tools need all the minerals to upgrade
I agree with your post but this part is already the case
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 5:05:58 PM
No.542503727
>>542503862
>>542503619
>kinda sucks ass
?
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 5:06:05 PM
No.542503739
>>542502459
>>game is good because le people say so!!!!!!!11
I mean, unironically yeah?
If there are like 20,000+ people playing your game daily and the reviews for your game are mostly positive, then it is a good game.
However, I do recognize that good is subjective. One man's "best game of all time" is to another man their abhorrent piece of shit that they hate.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 5:07:29 PM
No.542503862
>>542503727
The combat doesn't feel very good and the gameplay loop gets kind of stale
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 5:08:53 PM
No.542503994
>>542504246
>ranged/melee boss spawn with horde, 3 mins in on amphitheater map
>ogryn starts the sypher sequence for some reason
>goes down first and dc's
>wipe to ranged wave
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 5:09:58 PM
No.542504108
>>542503707
Yeah but in DRG you can exchange between minerals, we don't even have options to trade plasteel and diamantine in Darktide
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 5:11:25 PM
No.542504246
>>542512938
>>542503994
>"deers"
>"infront"
>"sypher"
Skill issue, Rajesh.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 5:15:04 PM
No.542504583
>>542505137
I have come to the conclusion that Electro > Inferno > Voidblast
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 5:15:05 PM
No.542504585
did he just imagined the first two words?
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 5:16:21 PM
No.542504709
>>542514513
>>542488540
I have played DRG, it was fun but I do like Darktide as well.
I do 100% need to play more of DRG though, and since Darktide is in a massive content drought, might as well try that.
For me the main reason why I ever bought darktide was purely because I could play as an ogryn. I've always liked games where I get to be the giant ogre who hits hard and protects the team.
When I saw in the trailers that you could play as an ogryn I was fucking sold and wanted to buy Darktide.
Is Darktide perfect however? No, it's far from it but at this point most of the issues the game had have been addressed and fixed (even if slowly) and Fatshark as a developer has massive issues.
Only things I'm annoyed by currently is the lack of new maps, new enemies + enemy factions and then new weapons.
Last map we got was Clandestium Gloriana, and then within 3 years of DT life span we've only gotten 2 new enemies.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 5:17:11 PM
No.542504790
>>542503619
I think it would benefit greatly from being more forgiving at the start and having more QoL especially in online play. I know it goes against the whole roguelike feel of the game but it sucks when you play with your friends and one of them ends up dying to a trap/boulder/oneshot by high level monster and you end up vaccuuming all the levels and gear to yourself while they are permanently gimped.
In similar fashion the endgame (atleast solo) is WAY too easy and i ended up basically rushing the exit on the last zone because i already had best gear possible and couldnt be bothered to pick up items or fight stuff anymore.
Also completely agree the combat is kinda janky and i hope they rework it (alongside stealth its so easy to abuse once you know how it works)
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 5:20:13 PM
No.542505068
>>542511694
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 5:21:03 PM
No.542505137
>>542504583
I have come to the conclusion that you are retarded.
>havoc
>enter room
>horde
>twins
>beast of nurgle
>plague ogryn
>chaos spawn (weakened)
thank god for grenade spam
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 5:22:43 PM
No.542505306
>>542505589
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 5:24:11 PM
No.542505432
>>542503580
it seems like these are issues only darktide suffers from
curious
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 5:25:19 PM
No.542505531
>>542505192
>kill all that
>can't deal with a group of regular shooters 50 meters away in cover
aaaaaa
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 5:25:54 PM
No.542505589
>>542505763
>>542505306
We survived but 2 of us died and then wiped because we got another boss + horde and got seperated by a bomber and i got shot in the back and died like a bitch trying to make a mad dash for revives
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 5:27:56 PM
No.542505763
>>542505589
certified director moment
scramblers (flamers/bombers) are more dangerous and more likely to lead to wipes than disablers (trappers/dogs/mutants)
The vast majority of players immediately snap to trappers but are happy to let the bomber turn the entire level into a lake of fire
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 5:32:20 PM
No.542506154
>>542506072
I swear they made the fart gas clouds bigger recently
>7 plasma niggers approach you
wdyd?
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 5:37:16 PM
No.542506646
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 5:39:01 PM
No.542506808
>>542507481
>>542513475
>>542506072
If your vet player isnt retarded he will be sniping every special before they even get a chance to attack (apart from maybe muties as they are pretty tanky and almost a non-threat compared to everything else) but that's asking alot from Darktide players.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 5:42:34 PM
No.542507178
>>542506072
Most people don't let them live, the problem is that bomber AI is dickheaded and designed to hang back and hide behind cover and then lob grenades at you from a blindspot.
Flamers are at least easy in that they just run up to you which lets you easily dome them or even melee them if you can dodge the flame.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 5:45:41 PM
No.542507481
>>542506808
>before they get a chance to attack
>throws a grenade into your squad from outside the level geometry behind a wall even the plasma gun can't penetrate
>runs away
nothin personnel, rejects
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 5:46:11 PM
No.542507527
>>542506513
EMPEROR-SAMA SAVE ME AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 5:47:24 PM
No.542507640
>>542507925
H40 but your team mate brings spychic shriek and surge contributing nothing until the inevitable wipe
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 5:50:50 PM
No.542507925
>>542508243
>>542507640
surge is a blessing
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 5:51:19 PM
No.542507972
>>542508141
>tac axe special can interrupt mutie charges on headshot
disgusting, this weapon did not need this capability
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 5:53:26 PM
No.542508141
>>542508392
>>542507972
you could just use a weapon that kills the mutie in one headshot
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 5:54:23 PM
No.542508243
>>542508584
>>542507925
surge staff bro thats how he announced it in chat too. It went like this:
>Psyker are you gonna play flame or smite?
>I will take psychic shriek and surge
>Game starts before we can tell him otherwise
>does nothing and dies
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 5:55:50 PM
No.542508392
>>542508141
True and also irrelevant
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 5:56:35 PM
No.542508464
>>542512772
>>542515505
Unless you are smitebitch or there's another psyker you should always pick shield as psyker, no ifs or butts
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 5:57:41 PM
No.542508584
>>542508243
mm nyo sweetie it's electro now
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 6:07:23 PM
No.542509537
Darktide talents be like
>5% extra toughness on kill
>15 toughness
>ranged hits grant stacks of scrimbo scrambo, increasing critical hit chance of your next melee attack by 5%, melee hits grant stacks of scrambo scrimbo, increasing critical chance of your next ranged attack by 5%
>gain 15% attack damage for 5 seconds after heavy attack
>3 bleed on melee critical hit
>you and allies in coherency gain 5% revive speed
>5% rending
What other Sci-Fi franchise do you want or think could benefit the most from a coop/tide game? (Do not reply Star Wars)
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 6:13:46 PM
No.542510171
>>542528181
>>542472289
>>542473638
Hmmm alright. Thanks for the responses.
>>542477941
Because I said I was passingly curious, I.e. not enough to go to another board and/or make an entire thread for it?
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 6:15:57 PM
No.542510382
>>542509835
XCOM
Killing Floor
Something else i forgot
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 6:19:11 PM
No.542510701
>>542509835
Warhammer, again. But this time we're fighting Orks.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 6:23:39 PM
No.542511150
>>542484028
Ehh, I donβt even know what she looks like and frankly Iβm kind of scared to find out. I will not post that elf btw. Get an autograph if you want though.
>>542486101
Pretty cool actually.
>>542488540
What a strange thing to say. You know it isnβt true because you felt the need to reply to yourself too. Weirdo.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 6:24:01 PM
No.542511192
Rotten armor is cancerous, but I still think that pox gas is the worst modifier in pubs. Even relatively bad groups can clear havoc missions by taking their time, and gas eliminates that as an option. You're constantly moving around to avoid taking damage and it just short-circuits people's brains.
If slaneeshi daemons are too sexy to be put into any games then explain why its ok for me to be subjected to Sefoni making suggestive comments and moaning like a slut 24/7 into my poor innocent virgin ears while i try to complete mortis trials penances.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 6:25:48 PM
No.542511359
>>542523835
>>542496331
iβm very curious to see the extent of your own βacademic logic and financial sector scripting educationβ
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 6:28:11 PM
No.542511609
>>542511273
It's not that sexy or suggestive things aren't allowed in games
It's that you're not allowed to have those things be portrayed as behaviors you can justify killing someone over
Slaanesh is an "issue" because you're essentially killing people for being extreme perverts, and even if it's completely justifiable within the lore it's socially unacceptable for marketing purposes
GW is never gonna take that risk when they can just use the other three chaos gods.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 6:28:59 PM
No.542511694
>>542500625
>>542505068
you also got the part where you said it was βapparently quite goodβ wrong (because itβs not)
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 6:31:00 PM
No.542511905
>>542502270
Too bad theyβre all ancient zombies at this point and their respective sequels are either never happening or objective downgrades.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 6:38:19 PM
No.542512675
>>542514486
>>542503050
not a surprise. itβs dead and dusted. probably bit the curb harder than even kf3. very tragic.
>>542503580
what an intriguing and compelling thought. whatβs next? ea would fill it with micro transactions if they had it?
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 6:39:09 PM
No.542512772
>>542508464
this but unironically
bubble is always going to contribute more to the team than the personal +15% dps you get from running your EPIC MILLIONS OF DAMAGE [NEW META???] gayze build
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 6:40:35 PM
No.542512938
>>542504246
You owned him here.
>>542505192
Oh man I love going to LLL. :)
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 6:45:50 PM
No.542513475
>>542506808
>If your vet player isnt retarded
hahaha thatβs a good one man
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 6:51:59 PM
No.542514105
>flamer spawns silently behind an armor pack
>plays attack audio, but by then he's already firing
>blinding flames cover your entire field of view to stop you from just shooting him
>spamming ping to find/highlight him cucked by the 15 elites accompanying him
>even if you do ping him the outline is red on orange
I hate this enemy
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 6:55:34 PM
No.542514486
>>542512675
ea would cancel the game or drop it around early access
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 6:55:50 PM
No.542514513
>>542518261
>>542520479
>>542504709
>I do 100% need to play more of DRG though, and since Darktide is in a massive content drought, might as well try that.
I have bad news for you buddy.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 6:58:14 PM
No.542514781
>>542549128
>>542509835
The Elder Scrolls, but i can't really think of anything that would fit
maybe something set during the Oblivion Crisis could work
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 6:58:24 PM
No.542514795
>>542514846
>>542515039
>its another episode of poxburster beeping randomly silencing all other game audio
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 6:58:58 PM
No.542514846
>>542514795
>it's in a closet and refuses to come out
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 7:00:45 PM
No.542515039
>>542514795
you don't understand anon, we NEED four dedicated audio channels for the background music, sacrificing functional enemy sound cues to make room is a necessity
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 7:03:05 PM
No.542515306
>>542506513
Shriek, and hope that my team is cognizant enough to close the gap and push their shit in. Otherwise dodge and dance till the 20 second cd is up again.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 7:05:05 PM
No.542515505
>>542515667
>>542508464
You could always get good and stop asking me to bring a crutch for you
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 7:05:22 PM
No.542515536
>>542590408
>>542509835
>(Do not reply Star Wars)
But
But it's the most obvious one. It would lend itself so well.
I can't think of anything else really. Even some Forgotten Realms game was tried already, but all those tabletop rpg settings feel too progressive to just let you slaughter Orcs en masse. It doesn't even sound like something which would appeal to fanbases of those settings
Honestly Fatshark didn't even scratch a surface with both wfhb and 40k. They could make multiple sequels to both and not run out of material - weapons, locations, enemies, playable characters etc
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 7:06:07 PM
No.542515610
>>542515836
>>542516508
>ping poxburster approaching
>teammate A swap to melee and walks towards it holding the block animation, clearly ready to push
>teammate B detonates it on top of teammate A
lmao
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 7:06:37 PM
No.542515658
>>542516023
>>542511273
>Meanwhile in a parallel universe
>Darktide with almost the same plot but under slaanesh corruption instead of nurgle
>Rejects are raped in missions failures, getting anal bleeding permanent status unless they visit Oska Krall and pay a lot to remove it
>Meanwhile they drop a line of blood and screams of pain every time you move around the Mourningstar
lol
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 7:06:46 PM
No.542515667
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 7:08:17 PM
No.542515836
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 7:09:56 PM
No.542516023
>>542516648
>>542515658
>coop tidelike H-game
remove the blood and this sounds kino
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 7:14:40 PM
No.542516508
>>542515610
>teammate A is closer and the target of the poxburster, and starts shooting it
>teammate B sprints at it from the side to push it and gets exploded
get fucked
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 7:15:57 PM
No.542516648
>>542516023
Darktide is already a H-game thanks to beasts of nurgle
t.femzealot player
Are poxwalkers considered plaguebearers? Or could Fatshark theoretically add these guys as a new enemy?
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 7:19:36 PM
No.542517017
how did darktide buckbreak telepots
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 7:22:14 PM
No.542517285
>>542517728
>>542516894
Plaguebearers are leeser daemons, and they have presence in the game but it's too small yet
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 7:23:57 PM
No.542517458
>still no vt2 new weapons that were teased months ago
did fatshark just give up?
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 7:25:01 PM
No.542517572
>>542516894
you're getting a reskinned plague ogryn and you'll say thank you as well
>>542517285
>and they have presence in the game
They do? Where?
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 7:31:14 PM
No.542518261
>>542511273
Because suggestive lewdness via innuendos and dialogue is not the same as having daemons and cult members running around with their tits and dicks flapping around.
>>542514513
This lol.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 7:33:13 PM
No.542518504
>>542506513
BLOOD FOR THE EMPEROR
SKULLS FOR THE GOLDEN THRONE
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 7:35:45 PM
No.542518775
>>542517728
he probably meant the gay ritual orgies
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 7:37:14 PM
No.542518923
>>542516894
No, theyβre two separate things.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 7:38:22 PM
No.542519053
can you imagine how hard the average player will shit the bed when Fatshark adds flying enemies to the game
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 7:38:27 PM
No.542519065
>>542519252
>>542519449
>true survivor
>doesn't bring krak to rotten armor
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 7:40:17 PM
No.542519252
>>542519065
not my problem
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 7:42:01 PM
No.542519449
>>542519065
exactly i bring smoke bombs to negate ranged mobs and power sword for rotten armor
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 7:46:29 PM
No.542519918
>>542517728
>They do? Where?
They're teased in different maps like pic related, but again, small presence like the genestealers for now until Fatshark decides to progress with the plot.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 7:49:39 PM
No.542520260
>>542517728
They are not in the game, technically.
However in the refinery delta mission, the one where you build up pressure in the gestation tanks to destroy the plague admonition is working on. There is a secret plague bearer skull in the final room, it's in a pile of gore.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 7:51:46 PM
No.542520479
>>542514513
I know that the devs aren't working much on DRG currently, but I am ashamed to admit I've only played DRG once so I haven't experienced a lot of it.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 7:53:19 PM
No.542520638
>>542524181
>>542511273
Sefoni's sex moans are hell of a lot tamer and more SFW than a slaanesh daemon or a slaanesh cultists prancing around butt naked with their dicks/tits flopping all over the place.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 7:53:25 PM
No.542520648
>>542479549
>>542480928
I noticed this too. When did they change this? It used to definitely not work like this, now it shoots repeatedly
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 7:55:16 PM
No.542520819
>>542522675
>>542554321
>>542509835
I really want to see a developer who knows what theyβre doing try their hand at a game starting a high tier hyper advanced Sci-Fi franchise. Something like The Culture, Xeelee Sequence, Doctor Who, etc.
I have no idea what it would actually play like, but running around as a literal god and defending from the various threats that star in them would be a treat to see.
Alternatively, I think a Hakf Life spin off where you either play as the Combine trying to subjugate other dimensions or defending yourself as one of those dimensions would also be neat.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 8:04:11 PM
No.542521757
>wipe to a dh because smitebot is deaf
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 8:13:12 PM
No.542522675
>>542523408
>>542523618
>>542520819
Why would a Jew or Chinamen ever finance this?
You misunderstand the purpose of video games.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 8:14:43 PM
No.542522849
>>542523071
>>542509835
Starcraft's would be amazing.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 8:16:43 PM
No.542523059
>>542471390
I can't imagine ever getting into something that takes as much work and is as niche as Warhammer TT is in the first place when GW deprecates factions with new printings as often as they do.
>Just play X edition
With who?
>Lol, no friends
Oh, you have a lot of people who hang around playing X edition? No, you don't, you lying bitch. That shit becomes shelf/convention fodder and you know it.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 8:16:48 PM
No.542523071
>>542523229
>>542522849
funny you should say that
secret news so don't tell anyone but there's one in the works rn
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 8:18:13 PM
No.542523229
>>542523071
I have bad news about Starcraft: Ghost, anon...
As long as someone other than Fatshark is in charge of live service, that would be great news.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 8:19:50 PM
No.542523408
>>542524039
>>542522675
whatβs the purpose of video games?
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 8:21:33 PM
No.542523618
>>542524039
>>542522675
>Why would a Jew or Chinamen ever finance this?
Because it would be fun and unique, provided itβs done properly through a mix of appropriate funding and people who actually know what theyβre doing plus are familiar with source material, like I said.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 8:23:33 PM
No.542523835
>>542525163
>>542511359
Who on this planet would share specifics for a measly (You)?
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 8:25:33 PM
No.542524039
>>542525618
>>542523408
>>542523618
You get to watch Superman solve problems because it leaves you in a weaker, expectant state, hoping for your own personal savior to swoop in and solve the problems too large for you.
You don't get to practice being him, and if someone stumbles upon this formula, we pay them handsomely to abandon it. The purpose is demoralization.
t. Alan Moore
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 8:27:05 PM
No.542524181
>>542520638
Yeah I remember in Rogue Trader when I faced a Slaanesh daemonette and was immediately fired from my job even though I was in international waters.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 8:29:25 PM
No.542524441
>>542511273
Because Slannesh is literally just drag queens and trannies. They were making fun of them back then when 40k was being codified and nobodoy thought that eventually it would become accepted or even supported behaviour, so Slannesh is sentenced to sit in the corner forever because removing one of the big four would cause an uproar in the community. They already tried once with Age of Sigmar and it wouldn't surprise me if the eventual conclusion of the whole Vashtorr thing is to pull a quick one on us and swap him with Slannesh.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 8:35:40 PM
No.542525163
>>542525429
>>542523835
(You). Right now.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 8:37:55 PM
No.542525398
>>542527194
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 8:38:09 PM
No.542525429
>>542526078
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 8:39:59 PM
No.542525618
>>542525889
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 8:42:32 PM
No.542525889
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 8:44:26 PM
No.542526078
>>542527146
>>542525429
*breeds Lenore in front of her*
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 8:54:45 PM
No.542527146
>>542526078
For me itβs the big dyke butch bitch
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 8:55:15 PM
No.542527194
>>542525398
>record scratch
>freeze frame
yep, thatβs me
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 9:05:05 PM
No.542528181
>>542529196
>>542510171
yes i'm sure that going to another board and asking in the 40k tabletop general there would've been inhumanly difficult
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 9:05:25 PM
No.542528216
>>542528791
What do you think about these new cosmetics?
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 9:11:19 PM
No.542528791
>>542529747
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 9:12:18 PM
No.542528880
NEW cosmetics?
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 9:16:01 PM
No.542529187
>>542506513
hold left click on my psyker so they can't hurt me
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 9:16:04 PM
No.542529196
>>542528181
Not what I said but sure
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 9:20:53 PM
No.542529604
ah, scab shooters, my ancient enemy
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 9:22:23 PM
No.542529747
>>542528791
>Sep 29
of 2023, right?
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 9:26:10 PM
No.542530070
>>542509835
Itβs a shame Destinyβs gameplay is such phenomenal dogshit. Itβs probably the most well known sci fi game that could benefit the most from a complete mechanical makeover. Its lore is pretty damn intriguing too but hardly done justice outside of text and thatβs just such a letdown.
>game about fighting nurgle's influence on a hive
>two (2) nurgle enemies (chaos spawn and beast of nurgle)
>two (2) half-nurgle enemies (daemonhost and plague ogryn)
>everything else is just an enemy militia with AIDS
very cool Fatshark
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 9:34:06 PM
No.542530871
>>542532190
>>542530348
even worse the chaos spawn and plague ogryn are just high effort remasters of the vt2 chaos spawn and rat ogre
>>542530348
I actually got to level cap on my main before I realized that poxwalkers were different than normal enemies or whatever. I'm sure it adds a layer of visual complexity that makes the game feel less cheap but I haven't made a single mechanic decision as a result of the """mixed hordes."Y You want enough rending to take down carapace enemies anyway, so I've never spared it any thought. Everything dies to the same combos anyway. Only time it's worth sparing processing power better spent dodging to alter your attack pattern is when you face a carapace elite.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 9:38:19 PM
No.542531298
>>542531143
man what a terrible post, i'm sorry
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 9:46:19 PM
No.542532190
>>542530871
>rat ogre
I almost wish we just fought one of those instead
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 9:52:57 PM
No.542532797
>>542530348
This is why Chaos Undivided will always be superior
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 10:20:48 PM
No.542535539
>>542530348
Honestly I prefer it this way since I like the idea of shooting at a bunch of Lost & Damned, but with how the game is structured around having multiple "factions" (Scabs and Dregs, technically) my wishful thinking would have been that we'd get other guys at some point.
Truth however is all that we' can hope to get is the Genestealer Cult "second hive" DLC in couple years that will be mostly reskinned Dregs with couple of specials (welcome back Beastmen). Some new elite that will play badly and fit weirdly some time after (welcome back Chaos Warrior with mace and shield.)
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 10:28:55 PM
No.542536349
>>542536857
>>542663840
>>542531143
>poxwalkers were different than normal enemies
buh?
poxwalkers are the green zombies, and there are the pale infected humans with armour, and Iβve noticed recently there are rare enemies that look like they were imperial guardsmen at one time
honestly I just sort them by how many hits/combos I will need to kill them and/or their ranged capabilities
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 10:33:39 PM
No.542536857
>>542538682
>>542536349
idk man everything dies in two hits of my relic blade or eviscerator and if i wanted to swing anything else i'd play a better game
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 10:51:32 PM
No.542538682
>>542539421
>>542536857
>eviscerator
fatshark needs to add a volume slider for the chainsaw sfx
way too loud for my delicate ears
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 10:58:11 PM
No.542539421
>>542538682
The mk 4 chain axe is the worst
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 11:00:10 PM
No.542539625
>>542539957
>be playing taunt ogryn
>eviscerator zealot is actually sawing through all the crushers
They just need some space
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 11:03:19 PM
No.542539957
>>542540187
>>542539625
>instantly mogged by arbitrator on any weapon spamming left click
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 11:05:18 PM
No.542540187
>>542539957
A revved up eviscerator does pretty good damage against crushers, but that's dangerous when you don't have someone keeping the enemies occupied
What's the shittiest weapon in Darktide?
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 11:11:15 PM
No.542540827
>>542540468
the chain weapons because theyβre too loud to use
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 11:12:43 PM
No.542540969
>>542540468
the chain weapons because i dont like how they stick to enemies
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 11:18:48 PM
No.542541596
>>542540468
Shredder autopistol
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 11:20:23 PM
No.542541761
>>542540468
in the category of weapons I never use, Heavy Sword and Vigilant Autogun. The game they were made for no longer exists, and vigilants were barely useful even back then.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 11:28:39 PM
No.542542598
>>542540468
All of the auto guns. Most of the melee weapons.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 11:29:18 PM
No.542542659
>>542545267
zealots should be practically immune to chip damage and their main function should be 1v1ing monstrosities and bosses while the rest of the team handles the specialists and elites
what other identity could they have at this point
ogryns should mog other ogryns
arbi should be keeping the block fodder in line
vets should be sniping dangerous specials
and psykers should put their bubble down and then apologize for existing
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 11:30:25 PM
No.542542762
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 11:30:37 PM
No.542542776
>>542540468
I have a potentially irrational hatred of the Heavy Sword.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 11:36:02 PM
No.542543276
>>542540468
Heavy swords and the power falchions
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 11:38:45 PM
No.542543537
>>542540468
It's the heavy sword, it feels like it was included just to highlight chainswords and power swords via contrast
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 11:39:25 PM
No.542543613
>>542543697
>>542543698
>>542540468
Ogryn. All of it.
Not neccesarily bad, it just feels like shit to me. I wish we had a Ratling instead because Bardin felt better than Snoregryn.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 11:40:14 PM
No.542543697
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 11:40:15 PM
No.542543698
>>542543613
>kneecaps count as weakspot hits for ratlings
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 11:56:24 PM
No.542545267
>>542545535
>>542542659
The problem is Arbites. Arbites should have been a slower but tankier middle ground between Zealots and Ogryns. Instead they're the best of both worlds.
Anonymous
10/13/2025, 11:58:59 PM
No.542545535
>>542545267
>Zealots should by X and do Y
>"The problem is actually 75"
>...
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 12:07:09 AM
No.542546335
>>542546567
>zealot is the most important class in high havocs for its ability to just never fucking die, insta res you, and piss all over you
>zealot is le bad
If you're struggling in your little babby aurics as freshly buffed zealot, that's such a monumental skill issue, I don't even think I could explain to you how much you suck because you just wouldn't get it.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 12:09:25 AM
No.542546567
>>542546335
you're the worst poster here
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 12:11:14 AM
No.542546753
>>542495419
Classic video games. Computer allies are always worse than the enemy.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 12:18:30 AM
No.542547493
>>542554146
>>542500364
What does this image have to do with the post
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 12:20:01 AM
No.542547639
>>542503619
It kind of just looks like it sucks ass man but idk Iβve never played it
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 12:21:13 AM
No.542547746
>>542547851
Zealots went from being the best class to being the worst class by far
Let that sink in
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 12:22:27 AM
No.542547851
>>542547948
>>542547746
In your hands, sure.
I'm not letting the sink in.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 12:22:40 AM
No.542547874
>>542548041
>>542495419
>is proof that Fatshark deliberately designed to be weak and retarded.
What is this pretense that this isn't obviously the case? of course they're not making competent bots, it would defeat the point of the game
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 12:23:27 AM
No.542547948
>>542547851
Every class is brought to its full potential in my hands
The sink is inside your house now
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 12:23:27 AM
No.542547949
>>542548074
>>542562279
>trying to get the achievement in Firebreak where you do a hard mission and no one gets downed
>can always hold my own but there's always one retarded random who fucks up
kill me
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 12:24:20 AM
No.542548041
>>542548479
>>542550436
>>542547874
I thought ratclick had competent bots that would actually, y'know, do things.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 12:24:40 AM
No.542548074
>>542548442
>>542547949
You had forever to do that and you chose after they fixed the difficulty scaling?
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 12:26:41 AM
No.542548289
>>542554321
>>542509835
Half-Life as a squad of Combine grunts sent into the Containment Zone to push back Xen infestation (this would be before they gave up on it in Alyx.) You can have different Combine for different classes like a medic, a heavy, a technician, an all rounder, etc. Could have Antlion heavy zones, zombie zones, Vort zones, etc. etc.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 12:28:13 AM
No.542548442
>>542548074
Only got into the game when it was on sale after they had already fixed it.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 12:28:38 AM
No.542548479
>>542548041
It didn't, they were fully fucking retarded and kept dying to 3 rats or 1 elite. Not quite as bad as darktide but anyone pretending the bots in ratclick were worthwhile is reinventing history. About the only notable difference is that they could fight bosses competently
>>542509835
maybe Star Trek shit against the borg could work? or like something to do with stargate
>>542514781
>The Elder Scrolls
>Sci-Fi
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 12:47:16 AM
No.542550210
>>542550625
>>542550785
>knosso prond jerkin
>not even a single attempt to model ambiguously, it just straight up has a male chest
lol these guys know no shame huh
>>542549128
lorelet
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 12:48:07 AM
No.542550294
>>542556105
>>542540468
Auto pistol
Vigilant autoguns
Heavy swords
Devil claws
Arguably both kinds of heavy stubber.
Maybe power maul as well since that weapon is just plain fucking cursed. But it might be good now thanks to the buffs, but I haven't played with it.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 12:49:28 AM
No.542550436
>>542550939
>>542548041
Adding competent bots to a coop game is counter-productive.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 12:51:00 AM
No.542550590
>>542509835
Warhammer 40k.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 12:51:17 AM
No.542550625
>>542550210
i've just now realized that they just strap things over the chest of every model that has a tight fit
jesus christ how lazy can you get
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 12:52:55 AM
No.542550785
>>542550210
The Numidium and wonky time travel shenanigans is not enough to classify it as Sci Fi buddy. At best it has elements of it.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 12:54:44 AM
No.542550939
>>542553491
>>542550436
What is this retarded cope?
>DRG has an AI companion more useful than most players
>it's really good in single player as a result
>most players still choose to play with others
So I can't have competent bots in poxclick because they would be better teammates than (You), the average auric shitter?
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 1:06:14 AM
No.542552020
>>542552098
wake up anon, it's time for your daily, obligatory, maelstrom duo
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 1:07:11 AM
No.542552098
>>542552020
Yes... honey...
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 1:21:31 AM
No.542553491
>>542553707
>>542550939
Who's gonna look at your cosmetics if you play solo
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 1:23:40 AM
No.542553707
>>542558127
>>542553491
Shit, fuck.
I concede because I think you are genuinely correct. I hadn't even thought that far.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 1:28:14 AM
No.542554146
>>542547493
NMRIH2 KF3 and most likely BL4 will die as unloveable incel chuds because their devs released inferior sequels to beloved games
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 1:30:06 AM
No.542554321
>>542548289
>>542520819
>>542509835
third for half life
even leaving aside the obvious 3rd game joke i do think thereβs a lot you could do with a combine focused game, especially since they have such a wide breadth of setups for a potential tide game.
could be a neat little divide between missions.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 1:31:59 AM
No.542554495
>eviscerator in lore is the biggest, baddest chain weapon, designed to obliterate armor and tear open anything you throw at it
>Fatshark's version is one of the worst weapons vs carapace
what did they mean by this?
wait so vet niggers have ogryn batter now thats easily reachable and have uncanny and they still whine? goddamn
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 1:36:04 AM
No.542554872
>>542555165
>>542554732
are these whining vets in the room with us right now
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 1:36:39 AM
No.542554930
>>542555165
>>542554732
>and they still whine
I haven't seen vets complain in years
They're the best class and even they know it
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 1:38:56 AM
No.542555165
>>542555470
>>542561114
>>542554732
>>542554872
>>542554930
power sword is still fucking gay as hell
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 1:42:07 AM
No.542555470
>>542555165
It is a retard strong and retard easy weapon, yes.
Painkiller is becoming a coop shooter with Chaos Wastes mechanics.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2300120/Painkiller/
Demo is out, looks fun.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 1:48:28 AM
No.542556105
>>542550294
Power maul still sucks ass
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 1:50:57 AM
No.542556319
>>542556482
>>542558298
>>542556007
We have our first Daimon Blades like....
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 1:52:40 AM
No.542556482
>>542556820
>>542558298
>>542556319
? They are nothing alike?
Have you ever played Painkiller, anon?
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 1:53:24 AM
No.542556564
>>542570843
>>542574632
Favorite Vermintide 2 line? For me it's
>Keep doing that, and I'll take yer beard!
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 1:56:01 AM
No.542556820
>>542556982
>>542558298
>>542556482
Of course not, why would I? But the Daimon Blades inspiration is quite clear.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 1:59:59 AM
No.542557194
>>542558067
>>542558298
>>542556982
Okay. *points gun at you instead*
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 2:03:46 AM
No.542557560
>>542558298
>>542556982
He's right you know
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 2:09:06 AM
No.542558067
>>542558298
>>542558338
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 2:09:43 AM
No.542558127
>>542558228
>>542553707
I mean this isn't a gotcha or a contest for you to even concede in but that's genuinely the reason for a lot of stupid decisions in modern games. Mourningstar exists as a hub solely so other people can look at your cosmetics. You can't private a game alone because nobody will look at your cosmetics. Bots are generic and bad so you want to play with other people and they will stand out.
The worst part is it's proven to work, just as FOMO and other scummy practices are.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 2:10:50 AM
No.542558228
>>542558127
All excellent decisions btw
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 2:11:42 AM
No.542558298
>>542558642
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 2:12:11 AM
No.542558338
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 2:15:25 AM
No.542558642
>>542558298
Take your meds, schzo
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 2:17:01 AM
No.542558791
>>542558937
>>542559568
really wish the 6 normal axes had meaningfully different movesets or capabilities
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 2:18:24 AM
No.542558937
>>542559560
>>542558791
Best we can do is adding a 7th with the same problem.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 2:25:21 AM
No.542559560
>>542558937
well alright if its new ill use it for a couple days at least
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 2:25:23 AM
No.542559568
>>542559979
>>542558791
The achlys is meaningfully worse than the other 2
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 2:29:36 AM
No.542559979
>>542560475
>>542560684
>>542559568
i hope you find extra ammo (or perhaps an extra stimm if you don't need any) on your next mission anon
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 2:32:31 AM
No.542560227
>>542561501
Kerillian's cute and sexiness feels illegal.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 2:35:28 AM
No.542560475
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 2:37:04 AM
No.542560615
HOW TO FIX OGRYN SHOVELS
Higher damage and armor pen
Low cleave
Make them perform like the combat axes
Thank you for your attention to this matter
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 2:37:49 AM
No.542560684
>>542563132
>>542559979
>ping extra ammo bag
>teammate with orange ammo icon ignores it
>would have taken 3 seconds total to get
>they're asking the guy holding an ammo box to put it down for him 1 minute later
>everyone is good on ammo except him
>>542556007
just finished playing the demo
this is actually pretty good.
it's more like abyssus and ratclick 1 than daimon blades
too bad it's 40 fucking dollars
but it has all the ingredients
genuinely felt i was playing horn of magnus back in vermintide 1
the banter between the cast is what darktide misses so much
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 2:40:56 AM
No.542560982
>>542561134
>>542556007
The video/stream/whatever that's showing on the steam page makes it look like nu-doom.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 2:42:26 AM
No.542561114
>>542555165
Problem being itβs unsatisfying as shit to use.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 2:42:45 AM
No.542561134
>>542561269
>>542560982
it's not a doom clone at all
see
>>542560805
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 2:44:15 AM
No.542561269
>>542561449
>>542561134
I did not call it a doom clone. I said they are advertising it like it is.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 2:46:12 AM
No.542561449
>>542561654
>>542560805
Yeah, tempted to preorder.
I agree with the Abyssus comparison, they really need to stop shadowdropping those Darktide competitors.
>>542561269
Great, the devs are retards then.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 2:46:43 AM
No.542561501
>>542560227
It is a boon to live in the same universe as she
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 2:46:54 AM
No.542561514
>>542464070 (OP)
For the Inferno force staff, which is better: Blaze Away and Warp Nexus, or Blaze Away and Penetrating Flame?
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 2:48:14 AM
No.542561654
>>542562550
>>542563724
>>542560805
>>542561449
>the steam forums are full of quake boomers seething the game is nothing like the original painkillers
kekkeroni rigatoni
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 2:54:46 AM
No.542562279
>>542564916
>>542547949
I did one solo run of Hot Fix that went well on Hard, but a solo run on Frequency Shift went bad half way through. I need to find a good solo loadout.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 2:57:46 AM
No.542562550
>>542561654
>Vermintide: Eternal
My red-flags are a risin
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 3:00:27 AM
No.542562797
>>542563434
>>542509835
I wouldnβt mind seeing something like that for a Quake game. Has the dimensional incursion element needed for it to work. Cool monsters, weapons, levels, etc.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 3:04:32 AM
No.542563132
>>542560684
oblivious bastards
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 3:07:55 AM
No.542563434
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 3:10:56 AM
No.542563724
>>542561654
It would unironically be a better world if there were enforced litmus tests on branding, though. Itβs evil to take advantage of mentally ill people and retards you donβt even know just because theyβll buy anything with a particularly beloved childhood brand attached.
But enough about Fatshark.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 3:23:21 AM
No.542564916
>>542574013
>>542562279
Freezer Duty went very well, but then I didn't get any other Corruptions spawning in and then in the extract I got downed anyways. Can't wait for them to bring back the old system.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 3:30:41 AM
No.542565670
>>542565940
>>542568782
Aurics have reached the point where i'm pretty much forced to bring tauntgryn or else my team just won't survive
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 3:33:37 AM
No.542565940
>>542566368
>>542565670
Been that way ever since they moved aurics off a second page, pal.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 3:38:00 AM
No.542566368
>>542565940
Mayhap
These fuckers don't even realize that the only reason why they are alive is because they are within my taunt range
>fucker runs off and gets completely boxed in
>i push taunt them through the floor and rescue him
Push taunt is such a kino talent. Serious fatshark W
>>542549128
uhh idk how but in my mind i completely omitted the sci-fi bit from the question
i still think a TES coop game would be cool
and fantasy > sci-fi anyway
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 3:51:32 AM
No.542567592
>>542568161
>>542567324
>a TES coop game would be cool
You realize that only fatshark has the ability to make that game fun, right?
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 3:55:08 AM
No.542567902
>>542567324
Skyrim Together Reborn already exists.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 3:57:49 AM
No.542568161
>>542567592
all they have to do is make it not like darktide and functional at launch, the latter might be a problem
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 3:58:31 AM
No.542568239
>>542568908
>>542549128
>trek
Wouldn't a co-op action game be the antithesis of what that franchise is all about lmao?
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 3:58:53 AM
No.542568273
>>542568590
would a ratburster improve Vermintide?
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 4:02:22 AM
No.542568590
>>542570969
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 4:04:02 AM
No.542568718
>>542556007
Seemed fun for the few games I played. People are still terrible at prioristing disablers though, 3 times I've watched helplessly as I get dragged into the abyss.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 4:04:41 AM
No.542568782
>>542569032
>>542565670
Then they don't survive. Maybe they'll learn to play a different difficulty while they sit in time-out for a while. lol no they won't
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 4:06:03 AM
No.542568908
>>542569739
>>542567324
>and fantasy > sci-fi anyway
Nah. Both are equal amounts of kino when done right.
>>542568239
You mean from a le peaceful utopian society standpoint? Thatβs presumably why he said the Borg would have to come in
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 4:07:35 AM
No.542569032
>>542568782
>pull entire room in my taunt
>melee veteran runs into the other room and pulls 3 ragers and dies in a corner
He was having so much fun stabbing enemies until the enemies fought back
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 4:14:55 AM
No.542569739
>>542578990
>>542568908
99.9% of conflicts are resolved through diplomacy. And the ground fights always have phasers set to stun. Also The Borg/ spaceship fighting would be a better premise for a Star Fox clone.
Is the spearhead boltgun even good?
This mf takes forever to unholster and aim, and not aiming-down-sights is a huge ammo waste.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 4:27:41 AM
No.542570841
>>542571065
>>542570614
the bolt pistol is better in every way that matters
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 4:27:42 AM
No.542570843
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 4:29:12 AM
No.542570969
>>542574285
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 4:30:11 AM
No.542571065
>>542574303
>>542570614
>Is the spearhead boltgun even good?
It is extremely good because you can build it as if it were a sniper rifle.
Take Deadshot on vet, piss mark's left node as a stamina engine, 1-2 stamina curios according to taste, and put the aimed crit blessing on the boltgun. It annihilates most things in 1-2 headshots except crushers, which I think need 2-3 now depending on your build. Not that you should shoot crushers anyway.
If you care enough, vet can also fix the swap speed issue. And the reload speed issue. And definitely the ammo issue.
The next best user is Arbitrator which turns it into a brutally effective magdump boss deleter, with the 20 and 30% unyielding damage in the class.
Zealot can also use it to brutal effectiveness, at least in aurics, with the right keystone. I don't think zealot should be using it in havoc anymore, personally.
>>542570841
Mostly true, except ammo and boss killing, which I think do matter depending on your class and role. I think it's about equal with boltgun on vet, and the lack of ammo is felt in havoc where most classes have better options imo.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 4:31:16 AM
No.542571164
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 4:43:58 AM
No.542572339
i know i'm three years late to the trough but i still can't get over the gender neutral cosmetics models
like what the actual fuck
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 4:54:18 AM
No.542573205
>>542573725
Just did my first cataclysm game ever as the Footknight. Holy fuck that was intense.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 5:01:25 AM
No.542573725
>>542573205
>you on the right
>auric and havoc chads on the left
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 5:05:01 AM
No.542574013
>>542564916
Finally did it solo on Outbreak. Once I heard a Corruption right outside the elevator door I knew I had to not fuck it up. Thought I'd get fucked at the end of it when the elevator door broke, but I repaired it and just threw water grenades just in case. Also got an Exotic out of it so fuck yeah.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 5:08:44 AM
No.542574285
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 5:08:57 AM
No.542574303
>>542574647
>>542570614
It's insane on Vet. Take Focus Target or run it with lots of crit like the other anon suggested. I do disagree with the other anon in that shooting Crushers with it is fine on Vet so long as you're hitting the head. Just don't mag dump and miss a ton of shots when 3-4 would have sufficed. It bodies almost all other elites and does good monster damage to boot.
>>542571065
>I don't think zealot should be using it in havoc anymore
Zealot shouldn't have been using it in S1 of Havoc. Unless it was really strong for some season I missed, it wasn't a good pick on Zealot ever for Havoc. Too ammo hungry in a mode where there's not enough ammo. The Bolt Pistol was a much better pick if you wanted to run something other than flamer.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 5:10:01 AM
No.542574393
>>542497392
yeah i have half a repentia set cobbled together over three years to prove it
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 5:12:53 AM
No.542574632
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 5:13:00 AM
No.542574647
>>542576367
>>542574303
>I do disagree with the other anon in that shooting Crushers with it is fine on Vet so long as you're hitting the head.
Arguably true, though I wouldn't want to encourage building a habit to shot crushers when every havoc vet should be krakking them, if there's a healer nearby, or using melee to preserve ammo.
Granted, I am somewhat assuming that the vet is running a meta melee like power sword, so it'll obviously be different on some builds. Then again, if you're in auric, there aren't enough crushers for you to run out of kraks with most good builds, so you can rely on those anyway.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 5:20:37 AM
No.542575248
>>542575367
>>542575745
>Operations
>Theres only one
Uhmmm darkturds?
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 5:22:01 AM
No.542575367
>>542575248
many such cases
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 5:26:23 AM
No.542575745
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 5:34:08 AM
No.542576367
>>542574647
>though I wouldn't want to encourage building a habit to shot crushers when every havoc vet should be krakking them
I doubt the anon was asking about Havoc though. If he's talking about issues with the thing's swap speed and ammo economy, Havoc is probably still a ways off for him, if he ever decides to bother with it.
>Kraks
True, it is often a waste to just start unloading on Crushers when you could Krak them. That said, running something like a Bolter is a good opportunity to use Shredders, if someone's so inclined, because your gun already handles armored elites and monsters so well. Having the CC and AOE from Shredders pairs nicely with Bolter in Aurics. It's how I've predominantly run my Bolter setup, and the new health value didn't change that for me.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 5:48:16 AM
No.542577526
No
Psyker is not the best potential melee class even with scryers gaze and high levels of skill
It's still the good old ogryn
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 5:54:36 AM
No.542578056
>>542578352
I really don't understand the end game of certain vermintroon players who sprint past the entire fucking team. Congratz, you have 500 hours and for some reason you're not playing Cataclysm or solo mode and choose to spend your time trolling Legend matches. Maybe they are actually too bad for those things and need power trip on a lower difficulty? I don't know. You guys are the experts. Fill me in.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 5:55:32 AM
No.542578137
If not for the fact that the plasma gun can shoot through walls, the slug shotgun would be a direct upgrade
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 5:58:03 AM
No.542578339
I have had enough of rotten slop I haven't seen a regular rager in a month
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 5:58:10 AM
No.542578352
>>542578056
i dont play on legend but i think you just answered your own question
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 6:06:17 AM
No.542578990
>>542569739
Didnβt know that. My experience with Trek is limited to like those new movies that released over a decade ago now. Guess itβs not a good fit.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 6:06:41 AM
No.542579015
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 6:08:05 AM
No.542579120
>>542503050
>>542503251
Its 40 dollars for an unpolished early access game from a studio with a middling history at best. It never had a chance.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 6:11:39 AM
No.542579429
>>542583143
>>542509835
>not wanting to kill Goa'uld fucking shits, among others
Can't believe nobody's said Stargate yet. The setting's even prime for mission-to-mission adventures in drastically different settings and with varying enemy types.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 6:23:21 AM
No.542580372
>>542580674
is darktide still being mogged by vt2 or do i have a reason to play it now
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 6:26:40 AM
No.542580674
>>542581091
>>542581882
>>542580372
It was never mogged by vermintide even in its worst state
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 6:31:21 AM
No.542581038
Darkturd moment
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 6:31:59 AM
No.542581091
>>542581169
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 6:33:00 AM
No.542581169
>>542581808
>>542581091
How is an objective fact a cope?
I'm not going to play pretend with you
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 6:40:50 AM
No.542581808
>>542582676
>>542581169
you already are playing pretend
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 6:41:49 AM
No.542581882
>>542634887
>>542700872
>>542580674
>More mixes reviews than gay fantasy online
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 6:52:26 AM
No.542582676
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 6:58:55 AM
No.542583143
>>542583384
>>542579429
i suggested it here THOUGH
>>542549128
i agree it would seem to fit quite nicely, i barely remember anything about it myself but what i do remember could translate pretty seamlessly.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 7:01:13 AM
No.542583317
>>542583564
Is there an outfit or skin or something that removes Kruberβs beard? Im kinda curious what he looks like underneath all thatβ¦
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 7:02:16 AM
No.542583384
>>542583143
Oh, my bad. Was skimming the replies and missed it that part of your post.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 7:04:52 AM
No.542583564
>>542583317
Foot knight has a few
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 7:23:40 AM
No.542584815
>>542584154
that was pleasantly funny
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 7:25:54 AM
No.542584979
>>542509835
I was gonna say Dune, but I donβt think itβs an especially setting honestly and from what Iβve seen at least itβs not especially focused on flashy conflicts or big open wars so maybe not the best fit. So for me itβs Deus Ex. Hard to beat this bad boy when it comes to dystopian cyberpunk sci-fi and the game already had all the key elements needed for a game like this to work. Could be very kino if handled right.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 7:39:15 AM
No.542585838
>>542588639
>>542591143
>>542509835
I couldn't think of one
Mass Effect already had a good coop mode with Mass Effect 3 but Bioware is feeding the rats at the moment (no progress is made with Mass Effect 4 either)
DUNC is trying to pander to that dogshit art deco movie, nothing interesting there unless someone has the brass balls to movie from Frank Herbert's work and try to tackle hos son's works that included the batlerian jihad
Asimov's works have curse on them that prevents anyone from finishing them or make faithful to his books
Farscape/Babylon 9 largely forgotten (Firefly died quickly)
Star Trek, pretty sure we already had a coop game from Warframe devs, doubt anyone remembers it
Dark Matter, another forgotten series that could've had coop game
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 8:03:34 AM
No.542587624
>>542589175
>>542556007
From the demo, this game pretty much is doom eternal meets vermintide 2. You even have to get melee chainsaw kills to recover ammo/energy.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 8:19:25 AM
No.542588639
>>542588948
>>542589878
>>542585838
>has the brass balls to movie from Frank Herbert's work and try to tackle hos son's works that included the batlerian jihad
QRD?
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 8:24:41 AM
No.542588948
>>542591143
>>542588639
butlerian jihad: humans are relying too much on robots and ai and its making them stupid and weak so we banned it
butlerian jihad forma de brian: the robots have made a big evil empire and we have to go to war with them
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 8:26:58 AM
No.542589067
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 8:28:55 AM
No.542589175
>>542587624
painkiller always had that
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 8:40:31 AM
No.542589878
>>542591143
>>542588639
portions of humanity go towards full robot(organic brain rest is metal), trying to enslave the rest of humanity or at least beat it into compliance, zero empathy left, don't even consider themselves human
the other part fights guerrilla warfare and whatever big cheese players they can convince not to get cyberdongs
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 8:49:09 AM
No.542590408
>>542590742
>>542509835
Really, I donβt think there are many, if any, sci fi properties that couldnβt be adapted into a game of some kind. Even something like IHNMAIMS ended up getting a point and click adventure game. A cool coop/tide game is another matter. Warhammer is probably unsurprisingly the best fit for it by far just from the fact it deals so heavily in absurd numbers and enemies and over the top fun that makes it a prime candidate, which is why weβre here now I guess. But Iβm kinda struggling to think of others that would fit besides whatβs been said already. Moving away from the mainstream and looking to stuff like novels, something like Hyperion Cantos is damn interesting but likely wouldnβt see much synthesis with any co-op formula. Maybe a Halo spin off in the same spirit as that Flood infected game mode from 4 could be pretty good. I think Fallout can also manage something similar, for all the flaws of 76 its base concept is pretty solid and could work even better under people who have the right idea.
>>542515536
It sucks because I wouldnβt really mind a pre-giga pozzed/Yidsney SW game like a tide game but you just know anyone who makes it is going to set it in the new trilogy era and add in all the egregious shit that comes with that.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 8:54:33 AM
No.542590742
>>542591272
>>542590408
Ok but what does this have to do with darktide?
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 8:55:18 AM
No.542590791
falseflag bait
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 8:56:11 AM
No.542590849
could see a dead space tide game
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 9:00:53 AM
No.542591143
>>542592571
>>542585838
>>542588948
>>542589878
You weren't supposed to pick option 5....
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 9:02:56 AM
No.542591272
>>542590742
Learn to read Rakesh
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 9:10:06 AM
No.542591696
>>542592450
>>542592606
So uh.... when are we supposed to be getting a new variant for the ogryn's best weapon?
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 9:21:25 AM
No.542592450
>>542592514
>>542591696
Bitch Psyker has 0 marks and no new staff since launch sit down
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 9:22:20 AM
No.542592514
>>542592831
>>542592450
The hell is a staff mk gonna do?
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 9:23:15 AM
No.542592571
>>542593459
>>542593797
>>542591143
too bad, maybe don't write yourself into a corner next time Frank
>guns le bad
why
>because they make anti-gun thing explode! could be catastrophic
okay can I use that to my advantage, like exploding house heads that way?
>NOOOO
why
>because.... uh... others will know it was you, yeah the bald eugenics project nuns will know!
even Tolkien deemed it trash
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 9:23:38 AM
No.542592606
>>542591696
this but for the plasma gun
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 9:27:04 AM
No.542592831
>>542592514
You could come up with a lot of options, changing the primary or how the secondary interacts, maybe a new special hmmm? Just give us something you took away our best weapon and then nerfed it.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 9:35:23 AM
No.542593316
>>542570614
You bring bolter for boss damage and sniping.
Also veteran gets +50% swap speed at the top of the tree as well which just negates the holstering problem.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 9:37:46 AM
No.542593459
>>542593797
>>542597083
>>542592571
Tolkien was a retard who only hated Dune because it exposed how religions like Christianity are psyops used to control the masses. He worked so hard to propagandize people back on to the Abrahamic plantation and Dune came along and torched it.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 9:42:58 AM
No.542593797
>>542594087
>>542594268
>>542592571
>>542593459
Tolkien was only alive for some 7 years after Dune was published in '65. There is no way in hell that some literal who sci-fi writer would've managed to get his publications across the pond over to the UK
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 9:48:10 AM
No.542594087
>>542594913
>>542593797
what the fuck are you even saying
It took Columbus couple of months to reach Bahamas without any navigational charts
surely an Airplane or modern ship could make the trip significantly shorter
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 9:51:07 AM
No.542594268
>>542594913
>>542593797
He literally wrote a letter seethe posting about how he couldn't finish it cuz it was too negative and anti-Christian. Blud just wanted his sunshine and rainbow good vs evil fantasies.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 10:00:51 AM
No.542594913
>>542595461
>>542594087
When I made that post, I had no real reason to believe that Dune developed any form of popularity until later, after Tolkien had died. Apparently one of Herbert's dedicated fans was also one of Tolkien's, and had sent him a copy of it, believing that he would have appreciated it, as I understand. Anyway, that process circumvents normal organic popularity. For some reason I didn't think someone might've just sent it to the man.
>>542594268
Nothing of the sort. He had received Dune from a gentleman named Lanier, and had stated he wouldn't have been able to read it until much later on. The following year, he said that he "intensely disliked it" in a letter to a different person, but never gave any reason why, either in that later, nor in any of his letters written thereafter.
t. Marquette archives
Anyway, Lord of the Rings would probably be a better setting for a -tide game than Dune anyway. Frank Herbert seemed to really hate guns. He probably would've unironically liked Vermintide 2 a lot.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 10:09:35 AM
No.542595461
>>542595546
>>542595765
>>542594913
>he "intensely disliked it"
>never gave any reason why
And if you know anything about Tolkien's life, worldview, and themes in his works, you will know exactly what his problems were with Dune. Do you really think he didn't like it cuz the worms freaked him out or some shit? lmao.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 10:10:51 AM
No.542595546
>>542595765
>>542595461
That is conjecture.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 10:13:04 AM
No.542595686
>>542509835
Undying Mercenaries. Book series about humanity being late to the party on the galactic scene, so they decide to earn money by selling their services as bloodthirsty savages. Every time a human is killed, a fresh clone is produced of him, hence "undying"
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 10:14:26 AM
No.542595765
>>542595461
>>542595546
Actually you know what? You're probably right.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 10:31:37 AM
No.542596782
>>542597281
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 10:36:51 AM
No.542597083
>>542593459
so enlightened
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 10:40:44 AM
No.542597281
>>542597340
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 10:41:52 AM
No.542597340
>>542597281
that didn't take long
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 12:08:12 PM
No.542603336
>>542605448
>>542606942
Vermintide 1 will be 10 years old next week
do you think they'll do something for the occasion, maybe announce something? maybe BTU2?
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 12:34:31 PM
No.542605191
>>542509835
Command and conquer. Play as NOD after Tiberium sun, hear Kane has died (again) fight your way through GDI, mutants and Tiberium creatures.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 12:38:33 PM
No.542605448
>>542618615
>>542603336
They will announce the end of service for vermintide 2
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 12:59:33 PM
No.542606942
>>542603336
"warhammer day" is on the 25th, so maybe something along those lines too
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 1:58:35 PM
No.542611350
>>542612923
Can someone less retarded than me explain how havoc modifiers are determined?
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 2:18:15 PM
No.542612923
>>542611350
Like the mission modifiers you get on your assignment? If you mean that then it's just at random.
So if your assignment says "Rotten Armor" + "Corrupted Stimms", then that is exactly what you are getting in that mission.
All havocs above H30 has the Emperor's Fading Light 2 modifier always baked and at that point is when the Auric intensity is triggered.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 2:57:55 PM
No.542616051
>>542616484
so is painkillers fun?
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 3:03:32 PM
No.542616484
>>542616051
been playing it for a few hours now. feels aggressively okay. wish the sfx hit harder and had more oomph to it.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 3:17:12 PM
No.542617623
>win 3 havocs in a row thanks to having amazing team then someone has to leave and everyone decides to leave
>lose 9 havocs in a row because people suddenly play like its uprising difficulty and take retarded talents/abilities that their class should never ever take like stealth vet or shield psyker without toughness bubble when its tox gas
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 3:24:04 PM
No.542618185
>he still posts suggestions on the Fatshark community forums
they arenβt reading it you dumb cunt
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 3:27:19 PM
No.542618426
>>542618987
My build for making use of the spearhead boltgun. Planning to mostly pop heads with ranged but also got a lot of the damage talents for melee.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 3:29:34 PM
No.542618615
>>542605448
Itβs Fatshark so theyβll also announce a new map for VT1 and the sickest VT2 skins ever for $35 at the same time.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 3:33:54 PM
No.542618987
>>542620132
>>542618426
Here let me fix that for you
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 3:48:01 PM
No.542620132
>>542620751
>>542622817
>>542618987
Looks good, Ill try it out. Why go 5% grenade chance over guaranteed +20% revive speed thoughbeit?
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 3:55:43 PM
No.542620751
>>542620132
because kraks are insanely strong?
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 3:59:55 PM
No.542621118
>>542621938
I give up on havoc, these randoms are so insanely bad
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 4:09:20 PM
No.542621938
>>542622128
>>542621118
the only tangible reward is at rank 24
grind out the black armor and forget about it
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 4:11:07 PM
No.542622128
>>542622335
>>542621938
so that means no darktide because they made aurics a complete joke
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 4:13:33 PM
No.542622335
>>542622128
not much you can do
it takes a full year for Fatshark to make noticeable changes
who knows, maybe they will remember Havoc exists
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 4:19:11 PM
No.542622817
>>542620132
That node basically gives you infinite grenades in havoc
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 4:21:16 PM
No.542622993
>>542638620
>sent him to the firing squad
>actually fell for the onions meme
>feel bloated and gassy as fuck all day
>room smells like Nurgle's asshole
damn, kebabchads weren't lying
anyway, thoughts on the power falchion?
I think it's mediocre, personally
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 4:30:36 PM
No.542623830
>>542638620
>I'd like nothing better than to wade into that pack of black-skinned scum, but we have other matters to deal with.
what the fuck did he mean by this?
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 4:51:15 PM
No.542625721
>darktide
*yawn*
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 5:23:25 PM
No.542628927
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 5:49:35 PM
No.542631503
>>542623421
>thoughts on the power falchion?
they should have made it OP on release so we could be excited about it
as it stands, there is no hype and no reason to use it
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 6:00:34 PM
No.542632520
>>542623421
>thoughts on the power falchion?
It's okay. I do wish it did more damage though since even when powered it takes like 3-4 hits to the head to kill a mauler.
>>542464070 (OP)
I understand Kruber, Victor, Sienna's motivations and have heard the rumors around Kerillian's curse/exile, but what are Bardin's motivations for sticking around?
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 6:19:14 PM
No.542634384
>>542634861
>>542636497
Reminder that the "Leave No One Behind" node for Vet gives +20% speed to ALL assist interactions (revives/rescues/nets/ledges) that stacks ADDITIVELY with curios (up to +56% total with three curios)
That means you remove nets in 0.64 seconds and revive/rescue teammates in 1.92 seconds with curios + LNOB.
Further reminder that the +20% movement speed boost it grants "when moving towards a downed/incapacitated ally" applies any time you're looking in the general direction of that ally, regardless of what direction you're actually moving and regardless of what map terrain is between you and the ally
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 6:23:52 PM
No.542634861
>>542634384
NODE ACTIVATED
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 6:24:11 PM
No.542634887
>>542635051
>>542638382
>>542581882
XIV was mostly played for several years before it was released on steam. That being said, the game is filled with more cheaters than a dark and darker lobby, avoid at all cost.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 6:25:48 PM
No.542635051
>>542635841
>>542634375
he dorf
>>542634887
xiv has been on steam for 10+ years
>>542634375
A dreary tale. Bardin, once an ironbreaker for his hold defending the deep depths. His outpost was ambushed by skaven. The lone survivor and heavily injured he was unable to sound the warning of the impending skaven attack for the main city. The attack killed many dwarfs, including his son.
Feeling guilt for surviving, and punishing himself for not being vigilant enough, Bardin took the job of a Ranger. Taking on the job of roaming far away from his hold, where he would dispatch and report on threats well in advance (and remove himself from the pain of facing his family.)
While Rangering, he came across an encrypted map of a lost hold. Discovering it would allow him to reclaim some honor, and searching for it would let him run away from his problems a while longer.
On the way to Ubersreik, he encountered Kerillian who was being attacked by Skaven. Decided to help her out, and continue his journey to Ubersreik, to find a particular book to help him decipher his map. Once there he certainly couldn't let another city (or new friends) die at skaven hands, or let a threat this large possibly reach his home.
Short version: Survivor's guilt, hates rats, stubbornly avoiding his personal problems
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 6:32:48 PM
No.542635794
>>542634375
he shamefur dispray
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 6:33:15 PM
No.542635841
>>542636123
>>542638382
>>542635051
v1.0 released in 2010. Please stop posting if you don't have a single thing to contribute other than misinformation. If it had released on steam the game would not have made it to ARR.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 6:35:59 PM
No.542636123
>>542635841
what the hell are you on about
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 6:39:31 PM
No.542636497
>>542634384
Cool, I'm still not using it.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 6:48:18 PM
No.542637329
>>542639045
>>542635731
good and informative post
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 6:59:24 PM
No.542638382
>>542634887
>>542635841
Interesting. It looks like shit regardless.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 7:02:06 PM
No.542638620
>>542622993
What?
>>542623421
Donβt eat thirdie food
>>542623830
Saltz keepinβ if real as usual!
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 7:06:07 PM
No.542639045
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 7:12:14 PM
No.542639728
>>542655067
>>542635731
>he encountered Kerillian who was being attacked by Skaven.
I would have joined in, bardin is a softy
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 7:16:21 PM
No.542640117
>>542646058
need tide gf
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 7:16:28 PM
No.542640129
>>542640174
FUCK man I wish I was just a bit fucking better I ALMOST got 3 fucking animals thru an Auric HISTG by doing fucking everything then ONE NETTER gets me right at the end and the FUCKING GUY STOOD RIGHT BEHIND ME WALKS OVER MY BODY TO KILL THE TRAPPER AND GETS FUCKING LIT UP BY THE WALL OF GUNNERS
ONE FUCKING mistake man I'm so mad at myself.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 7:16:45 PM
No.542640150
>invite a second psyker
>it's a smigger
>is retarded
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 7:16:56 PM
No.542640174
>>542640129
it is just a game
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 7:31:47 PM
No.542641763
>>542652692
Just watched a "true survivor" Zealot run into open with 10+ gunners clearly visible and instantly eat dirt
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 7:35:59 PM
No.542642193
>>542623421
It's decent. Not insanely strong but not bad either. A slight damage bump against the tougher elites wouldn't be unwarranted.
I never played VT1 but holy shit, watching footage of it now....WHERE THE FUCK DID ALL THAT SOUL AND ATMOSPHERE GO!?
>Maps were entire towns/plazas with the burning city as its backdrop
>The escapes were done via wagons/carts which kind of gave it those extra L4D escape room vibes (trying to have everyone cram into a single doorway while a hoard is hot on their heels)
>The vast majority of assets were clearly ripped from the first game, sound, models, animations for both 3rd and 1st person...almost makes you wonder what the second game even added on its own
Idk, this was quite the eye opening experience. Did Fatshark fire all the original devs or something? It would explain why darktide is so terrible.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 7:42:05 PM
No.542642842
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 8:06:42 PM
No.542645563
>>542642651
wizards tower is peak. vt1 was more open so new players hated it and got lost a lot compared to vt2 which has more linear levels and more bosses and enemies
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 8:10:00 PM
No.542645901
>>542642651
tencent and preparing to sell to tencent
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 8:11:12 PM
No.542646029
>>542655067
>>542635731
Kerllian was made for skaven gangbangs
>>542640117
every time i post here i get called retarded tho
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 8:18:14 PM
No.542646818
>>542646058
i would never call you retarded (unless you were being retarded)
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 8:31:14 PM
No.542648129
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 8:39:43 PM
No.542648980
>>542655397
>>542646058
when girls are retarded it's cute and endearing
>>542642651
Admittedly VT2 explicitly didn't cost full price because it was just a VT1+, better suited for longer expansion. But that was the justification they gave for it being cheaper
Also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5i3Vck2qS0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYQKrx4do4M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s2MlZkzq6o
It also had massively better writing. Most of dialogue is dead serious, sensible, natural, fitting the situation. Famous Okri exchange was an exception. VT2 flanderized everyone and is written like a marvel quipfest. Sienna especially cannot shut up about "darlings" now when she barely used that word before, they just wanted to force another meme word, this time for her. In VT2 characters cannot stop quipping during combat, they barely talk normally outside this and don't take situation seriously at all.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 9:06:22 PM
No.542651801
>>542650159
VT2 is marvel slop of warhammer fantasy fans
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 9:13:03 PM
No.542652542
>>542650159
I love Saltzpyre so much it's unreal
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 9:14:29 PM
No.542652692
>>542653491
>>542641763
True Survivors are just people who listened to some wannabe raid leader guide them from bubble to bubble, I'd take a Poxbreaker or a Budding Interrogator any day.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 9:16:00 PM
No.542652840
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 9:22:07 PM
No.542653491
>>542653741
>>542654229
>>542652692
If it's so easy to get, then how come you don't have it?
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 9:24:46 PM
No.542653741
>>542653970
>>542653491
Iβm about halfway through damnation
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 9:27:07 PM
No.542653970
>>542653741
nta but I had a "True Survivor" vet go down and outright die multiple times the other gay last time I played, in Damnation when I was screwing around on Zealot. It was embarrassing. I don't think I've seen Budding Int's go down ever unless it's a complete wipe.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 9:29:29 PM
No.542654229
>>542654376
>>542653491
I do, now post your banners
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 9:30:29 PM
No.542654339
>>542657128
Playable Tau in Darktide when?
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 9:30:52 PM
No.542654376
>>542654506
>>542654229
>vermin pedo still thinking his game is relevant
Lol?
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 9:32:06 PM
No.542654506
>>542654663
>>542654376
woah now what's with the allegations, kerillian is a grown woman she can do what she wants
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 9:33:31 PM
No.542654663
>>542654732
>>542654506
Those rats are only a few months old you suck fuck.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 9:34:07 PM
No.542654732
>>542654663
I'm a Skaven primary, I would never hurt the rats.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 9:35:38 PM
No.542654902
rat sex with aqshy
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 9:37:11 PM
No.542655067
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 9:38:19 PM
No.542655198
Playable Tau in Darktide now .
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 9:40:00 PM
No.542655397
>>542656139
>>542646058
well thatβs because youβre not a girl duh
>>542648980
trvth
>>542655397
i am a girl (Female)
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 9:48:08 PM
No.542656304
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 9:50:23 PM
No.542656568
goddamn it
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 9:55:25 PM
No.542657128
>>542658632
>>542660365
>>542654339
xenos will have a diverse variety of roles as cocksleeves
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 10:04:49 PM
No.542658207
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 10:04:53 PM
No.542658215
>>542658649
>>542650159
Grim. Such a shame we couldnβt have the improved mechanics of 2 and the general kino-ness of 1. Itβs just one step forward two steps back with fartshart, always.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 10:06:42 PM
No.542658404
>>542661186
>>542656139
Prove it. Favorite class to main?
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 10:08:54 PM
No.542658632
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 10:09:07 PM
No.542658649
>>542658215
to be fair, most games do that on a sequel
l4d2 is the only exception that comes to mind
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 10:17:29 PM
No.542659510
>>542659574
>>542661207
please play this game.. please
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 10:18:08 PM
No.542659574
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 10:21:49 PM
No.542659961
>>542663978
>>542488540
that's just not true, darktide was my first entry into 40k and i doubt i'm the only one
this general was all about VT2 before darktide came out, those players didn't just leave and get replaced, they switched to darktide because it's frankly the better game
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 10:25:36 PM
No.542660365
>>542661475
>>542663978
Playable Tau in Darktide any time now.
>>542657128
>diverse variety of roles as
Handholders, kissing partners, and wives.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 10:33:12 PM
No.542661186
>>542661661
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 10:33:22 PM
No.542661207
>>542659510
costs too many brouzoufs
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 10:36:18 PM
No.542661475
>>542662784
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 10:38:26 PM
No.542661661
the 3 worst players i have ever had in an auric match
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 10:40:43 PM
No.542661878
>>542662119
>>542661670
>1.5k damage taken each
>on fucking veteran
>15 deaths in 33 minutes
>150k damage in 33 minutes on veteran
how
>>542661670
How do you even win matches like that?
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 10:43:18 PM
No.542662119
>>542661878
He just flailed around with his chainsword for the brief moments that he was alive
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 10:44:48 PM
No.542662265
>>542662313
>>542662072
By matching with me
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 10:45:13 PM
No.542662313
>>542662432
>>542662265
Autist Exemplar?
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 10:45:36 PM
No.542662351
>>542662072
You're halfway to solo'ing the mission with 3 teammates that need such hard carrying. Mostly, they're only going to be good for distracting mobs while you work to clear the screen. Once you've played the game long enough, you'll be able to put the backpacks on and succeed as well.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 10:46:19 PM
No.542662432
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 10:48:22 PM
No.542662638
>>542663072
>>542662072
Most aurics have at least one player of such caliber, some 2, and very rarely you get 3. You get used to it, and git gud at carrying retards.
Shit like this is why most seasoned players will tell you that your build needs to be able to handle every armor/enemy type, because your 3 retards regularly do the exact opposite.
It's why I say that flamer zealot is bad in aurics because you can't kill snipers reliably. Ceilings, grates or simply distance will regularly make hitting them with knives almost impossible. Same shit with ogryn not bringing an accurate secondary, even if rumbler is overpowered otherwise.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 10:49:52 PM
No.542662784
>>542663978
>>542661475
Stop asking for Fatshark to do something good? Never. Playable Tau now.
someone give me a brain dead arbites build
please
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 10:53:01 PM
No.542663072
>>542663431
>>542662638
>Shit like this is why most seasoned players will tell you that your build needs to be able to handle every armor/enemy type, because your 3 retards regularly do the exact opposite.
Extreme truth.
I wouldn't even say flamer is bad in Aurics, per se. You just need to be able to play around its shortcomings. It's generally not too difficult to play around snipers that can't be handled yet (although your teammates will disagree by refusing to line of sight ever, but you don't have to die with them). What'll really get you is if you run the flamer with a melee that you can't fall back on to handle everything the game can throw at you since reloading the damn thing as the last man alive is practically impossible without mitigating factors (like stuns or pathing abuse). Apologies for the ACKSHUALLY-tier response
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 10:54:47 PM
No.542663231
>>542662906
Just take Castigator's stance and win most engagements.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 10:56:50 PM
No.542663431
>>542663917
>>542663072
>spoiler
I mean you're correct for the most part, I just disagree with letting my retards die to the sniper in the first place. Killing snipers should be everyone's job at all times, and assuming the other guy will do it is what causes downs, whether your own, or someone else's. I assume that if I let a sniper live for long enough to fire more than once, at least two of my retards are dying to it.
>>542662906
Take Shield + Maul and one of the Arby shotguns
>Spam BTL at elite packs for constant damage and strength bonus and CC
>Use shield flashbang liberally
>Dog shock when other CCs wear off
>Have tons of damage reduction and toughness
>Be practically unkillable while shitting out CC and damage
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 11:00:49 PM
No.542663840
>>542531143
>>542536349
The pale hobos are "groaners", the mutated hobos are poxwalkers. The main difference is groaners are "unarmored", while poxwalkers are "infested", and poxwalkers have a bit higher stats. I'm pretty sure fatshark meant for this to have some implications for builds, but I've never had to worry about anything less resilient than flak armored enemies either. Oh and the infested guardsmen are the Moebian 21st. They were first introduced in an event, then showed up as a havoc modifier, and I guess they're now sprinkled into regular hordes as well.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 11:01:31 PM
No.542663917
>>542663431
You're not wrong. I've just abandoned the escort quest at this point.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 11:02:19 PM
No.542663978
>>542659961
Donβt respond to bad brown bait
>>542662784
>>542660365
Aeldari are the superior cocksleeves
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 11:02:49 PM
No.542664052
>>542665350
>>542663578
>not taking Canine Morale
Builds like these are why people call the dog bad.
This would be better off either pathing left near the top, or pathing through dog aura to save a point.
Unless your logic is that ASS-let pubbies are literal useless deadweights and no amount of toughness regen auras is going to help them, in which case, sure.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 11:07:46 PM
No.542664539
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 11:13:58 PM
No.542665118
>>542662906
Don't listen to this retard
>>542663578
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 11:15:21 PM
No.542665230
>>542665812
>misinfo arbitrator troll anon is samefagging again but refusing to post a build or give reasons why it works
>>>/b/ is over that way
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 11:16:28 PM
No.542665350
>>542665842
>>542664052
It's completely redundant in a build with already a metric fuckton of DR and toughness regen.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 11:21:02 PM
No.542665812
>>542665230
>b-but how do you KNOW shit tastes bad?!
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 11:21:14 PM
No.542665842
>>542666348
>>542665350
Oh I agree, I'd just feel fucking retarded not taking the best aura available to my class (Canine Morale) when I'm already meeting all the prerequisites, and taking it barely loses me any damage in both cases.
If you're that insistent on damage, I think you'd be better off using a different melee, instead of sacrificing Canine Morale. The damage output of a fully damage built arbitrator is pretty retarded with high DPS weapons.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 11:24:25 PM
No.542666160
>>542666229
>>542666321
when will arbys go on sale
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 11:25:05 PM
No.542666229
>>542666160
Never because it barely costs anything as is
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 11:25:57 PM
No.542666321
>>542666160
>tfw haven't had arby's in forever
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 11:26:16 PM
No.542666348
>>542666563
>>542666652
>>542665842
>Canine Morale
>aura
Niggawat.
Anyway, you agree that it's redundant but, for some reason, feel retarded not taking it. That doesn't make sense to me.
>that insistent on damage
I put fairly minimal points into damage. Most of it comes from spamming BTL, which is also a source of CC and toughness regen, or the "you're probably retarded if you skip these" point on the bottom left. Yes, though, I did prioritize the attack speed up top over saving a point because attack speed is both an offensive and defensive tool, and it's very effective at each. There's no way I would ever want to take No Escape over Hammer of Judgement, and Target Neutralized is better toughness regen than Canine Morale. Yes, you lose some TDR. But with Hold The Line, Forceful, and Imposing Force coupled with the ocean of toughness you will drown in, it doesn't matter. Damage and CC become
>The damage output of a fully damage built arbitrator is pretty retarded with high DPS weapons.
Yes, and? Anon asked for brain dead, not optimal. Spamming CC with tons of DR and toughness and a dog to save you from other dogs/muties is about as braindead as it gets.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 11:28:24 PM
No.542666563
>>542666652
>>542666348
>>Canine Morale
>>aura
>Niggawat.
It's effectively an aura.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 11:29:15 PM
No.542666652
>>542666724
>>542666769
>>542666348
>Damage and CC become
become the priority at that point, regardless of what kind of build you're shooting for, and you'd be silly to give them up in favor of something that doesn't bring you much actual benefit.
I accidentally the sentence, I guess.
>>542666563
Still isn't an aura
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 11:29:55 PM
No.542666724
>>542666892
>>542666652
>getting autistically hung up on semantics
I almost forgot where I was.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 11:30:32 PM
No.542666769
>>542666652
Retarded bitch
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 11:31:39 PM
No.542666892
>>542669194
>>542666724
Yes, imagine caring about specifics that actually impact talent selection and discussion. Boggles the mind.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 11:34:18 PM
No.542667158
>>542509835
This post and its responses make me realize just how vast science fiction is. I havenβt heard of most of these. That said sci fi games really are kino and I wish there were more of them in the vein of some of the suggestions here.
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 11:44:09 PM
No.542668102
>>542677558
I really like Darktide bros!
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 11:54:38 PM
No.542669194
>>542669768
>>542666892
Everyone was smart enough to understand it except you
Let that sink in
Anonymous
10/14/2025, 11:59:40 PM
No.542669768
>>542669949
>>542669194
You're still upset about this shit?
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:01:10 AM
No.542669949
>>542669995
>>542669768
We're right and you're wrong
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:01:34 AM
No.542669995
>>542670265
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:04:11 AM
No.542670265
>>542669995
Piece of shit
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:15:13 AM
No.542671467
>>542672027
Are there any proven benefits to letting sinks in?
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:16:54 AM
No.542671664
>>542663578
what is this retarded dogshit fucking build? what kind of a faggot would ever use this?
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:17:15 AM
No.542671708
>psyker/vet/arbites/vet
that was a nice game
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:17:56 AM
No.542671796
>>542671952
>>542672210
Wait so the big update of q3 2025 was... a power falchion? That's just a copypasted relic blade mechanic ontop of a copypasted devils claw sword? And tweaks to numbers? And nothing else new? Literally nothing?
I hate to say it and maybe I am late to coming to this conclusion but this games development is over isn't it
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:19:19 AM
No.542671952
>>542672127
>>542671796
You forgot guy with plasmagun.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:20:03 AM
No.542672015
>>542672316
>>542662906
here's mine
the new shotgun that has a horizontal spread does a lot of damage. it can snipe most things with one or three headshots.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:20:10 AM
No.542672027
>>542671467
sinks are bro tier
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:21:10 AM
No.542672127
>>542671952
Plasma gunners went from ass raping your penis hole the instant they show up to being less threatening than gunners
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:21:13 AM
No.542672136
>>542672497
Why is Darktide always on sale?
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:22:04 AM
No.542672210
>>542671796
Hey now, there was a copy pasted shotgunner wit a plasma gun as well!
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:22:55 AM
No.542672316
>>542672418
>>542673145
>>542672015
He means "braindead easy" not "made by a braindead person"
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:24:01 AM
No.542672418
>>542672919
>>542673228
>>542672316
post YOUR good build then
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:24:20 AM
No.542672449
>>542672921
I can't get over the dish plate strapped to the knee
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:24:54 AM
No.542672497
>>542673072
>>542672136
Because the cosmetic shop is the real breadwinner
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:29:15 AM
No.542672919
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:29:16 AM
No.542672921
>>542672449
Is that /k/ approved?
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:30:47 AM
No.542673072
>>542673337
>>542672497
Not when they keep doing shit rotations it's not.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:31:36 AM
No.542673145
>>542672316
that's how easy it is to win with it
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:32:26 AM
No.542673228
>>542673695
>>542675651
>>542672418
It's probably (one of) the shitposter(s) who just mindlessly talks shit and samefags. Ignore him.
That said, there is stuff you could (and should) change about it. The block talents up top aren't great, and you should be taking CDR from EO. Also, Target the Weak is multiplicative damage and should be picked up. I'm personally not a fan of Nuncio AND think it's the least braindead of the 3 abilities, but that's whatever. You also picked the worst first row talent (your +damage talents will still affect ranged weapons, so that 15% isn't super valuable). Also, Concussive is highly desirable, at the very least for monsters.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:32:56 AM
No.542673284
>Saves Darktide
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:33:26 AM
No.542673337
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:34:31 AM
No.542673454
>>542674481
Why is Rattide free like half of the time?
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:36:55 AM
No.542673695
>>542674235
>>542673228
you should remove the nine and zero keys from your keyboard
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:42:22 AM
No.542674235
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:44:37 AM
No.542674481
>>542673454
they sacrificed its raped corpse to rake in the pesos and yuans due to it being centuries old at this point
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:46:44 AM
No.542674702
>>542675625
Why do zealots insist on playing this trash in havoc? Every time I see this I know the mission will be a waste of time. The measly amount of damage you deal with chastise doesn't make up for an aoe stagger and yellow toughness.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:55:44 AM
No.542675625
>>542674702
They are turbo coping with the fact that zealot isn't a damage class by trying to force as much damage as physically possible, only to still be outperformed by the arbitrator.
Also some jewtuber said it was okay to run this in havoc, and retards listen to them, not understanding that jewtubers only play in close-knit premades while yapping in discord.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:56:02 AM
No.542675651
>>542676272
>>542673228
gracias amigo, i didn't notice the things you mentioned
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 1:02:35 AM
No.542676272
>>542676489
>>542675651
Sure thing. Walk It Off, in particular, is nice because it works while blocking and doing so many other actions as well. You don't actually block all that often, but you sprint and push or push attack regularly.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 1:04:47 AM
No.542676489
>>542677072
>>542676272
wouldnt you be around the dog more
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 1:10:33 AM
No.542677072
>>542676489
That node's good too. Either works fine. You just don't have as much control with it, so I don't care for it as much. A lot of the time you really need toughness, you're going to be doing something that drains stamina anyway (blocking rager packs, sprinting and sliding around ranged fire, pushing groups of shit) whereas the dog may or may not be within range. I will admit though that I'm not super familiar with dog behavior, and it wouldn't surprise me to learn that the dog was within range most of the time anyway so long as you don't take the ranged priority node for the dog.
Either option is better than the block one, basically.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 1:15:34 AM
No.542677558
>>542668102
missing comma so I assume you like me o3o
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 1:29:20 AM
No.542678903
>>542684548
The next tide game will be Age of Smegmar and focus on solely undead so they can recycle darktide fodder animations.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 1:35:20 AM
No.542679467
>>542679753
Wait, why is there not an inspect character button in VT2?!
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 1:38:32 AM
No.542679753
>>542679467
WAIT WHY ARE THERE NO TRINKETS EITHER?!
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 1:42:44 AM
No.542680135
>>542680536
>>542682946
falseflag/10 - things nobody cares about
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 1:47:26 AM
No.542680536
>>542680648
>>542680135
>STOP TALKING ABOUT HOW MUCH BETTER THE FIRST GAME IS
Fuck you, fatshark employee why the fuck did you niggers remove all of these cool features from the game?
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 1:48:36 AM
No.542680648
>>542680536
Because it takes dev time therefore costs money.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 1:52:57 AM
No.542681049
>>542681221
>best player on the team tries to solo the 10% hp boss instead of picking up the dead weight teammates + me (semi-dead weight)
>dies
we were so close
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 1:53:12 AM
No.542681073
Just started playing Darktide, how many millennia is it gonna take me to save up the 350,000 gold for the Ogryn helmet + sunglasses? I'm level 11.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 1:54:51 AM
No.542681221
>>542682450
>>542681049
>tries to pick you up
>boss staggers him
Genius
i have no idea how i can grind through darktide but trying to grind through SM2 is like its sucking out my soul
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 2:07:52 AM
No.542682450
>>542681221
there was time I was there
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 2:09:38 AM
No.542682606
>>542682248
Darktide is fun and sm2 isn't
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 2:13:05 AM
No.542682946
>>542680135
Nice try faggot. Your lies and sins will be exposed. This is just the beginning.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 2:17:01 AM
No.542683309
>>542682248
I do think Darktide has better gameplay, especially when you go up in difficulty. SM2's prompts are wildly inconsistent, and having several or more elites trying to gangrape you at once leaves you little you can actually do to affect the situation besides react. It doubly sucks because SM2's grind is far more lengthy and impactful than Darktide's. Also, fuck prestiging, and fuck the faggot who thought locking perks behind prestige levels was a good idea.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 2:18:43 AM
No.542683489
>>542682248
SM2 is anti-fun in video game form. weβve been over this.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 2:22:56 AM
No.542683924
>>542682248
Darktide is mostly offensive moves, sprinkled with defensive reactions, to work your way through a battle. Space Marine is mostly defensive moves, sprinkled with short offensive openings. Also the melee just doesn't feel as good. And most importantly no Jesper Kyd pumping you up in the background as you fight
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 2:28:53 AM
No.542684548
>>542678903
goddamn it
you're absolutely correct
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 2:51:41 AM
No.542686757
dead general
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 3:01:47 AM
No.542687758
Invis vet/zealot is kino
what happened to all the females on atoma
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 3:05:12 AM
No.542688098
>>542688038
they got shit on
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 3:06:31 AM
No.542688242
>>542688038
Raped to death by BWC (Big Wolfer Cock)
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 3:06:42 AM
No.542688260
>>542688038
they equipped paid cosmetics
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 3:15:38 AM
No.542689217
new slop leaked on r*ddit
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 3:27:14 AM
No.542690473
>>542688038
kept in bondage, impregnated repeatedly by dripping green tentacles, and forced to birth nurglings deep in the heart of the city
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 4:30:02 AM
No.542696289
>>542697837
>>542700886
I can't with infantry lasgun bros...
>Forced to land headshots to hit breakpoints
>Still doesn't hit oneshot breakpoints
>Take marksman's focus
>Still doesn't give scab gunner or dog breakpoints
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 4:36:13 AM
No.542696861
>>542697074
>>542697619
>>542464070 (OP)
What am I in for?
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 4:38:32 AM
No.542697074
>>542697586
>>542696861
returning player or new player?
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 4:44:51 AM
No.542697586
>>542697670
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 4:45:04 AM
No.542697619
>>542696861
The most fun you have ever had in your entire life
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 4:45:33 AM
No.542697670
>>542721961
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 4:47:27 AM
No.542697837
>>542699828
>>542696289
They just straight up suck. Stop coping
Are vets taking kraks just because of the CRUSHER change, or is there another reason why vets dont take frags anymore?
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 4:50:04 AM
No.542698097
>>542697989
Because you now get at least 4 and they now do 6500 damage instead of 3500 damage against crushers
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 4:50:47 AM
No.542698164
>>542697989
I'm really bored of uncanny + frags and if I don't kill bosses none of my teammates will.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 4:56:46 AM
No.542698675
>>542697989
I just like throwing the mini-nuke at teammates that are struggling with a blob of armor and having the grenade magnetize to presumable problem targets. And smashing bosses.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 4:58:02 AM
No.542698774
Crusher and krak changes have robbed me of the pleasure of mowing down carapace enemies as an ogryn or arbites
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 5:09:39 AM
No.542699828
>>542700879
>>542697837
Where is the cope?
I am stating why they are objectively garbage
Welp, im bored with darktide. Back to valheim until the next poe patch.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 5:19:28 AM
No.542700872
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 5:19:32 AM
No.542700879
>>542699828
By trying to make it work
It ain't gonna work
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 5:19:36 AM
No.542700886
>>542696289
Yeah they're just not worth running. If you want a plinker, use the semi-auto headhunter/vigilant. It's much better and does the same thing. The only downside is having irons instead of a reflex.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 5:21:06 AM
No.542701024
>>542697989
Bosses, Bulwarks, and Crushers are all good reasons for Kraks, but I still mostly just take whichever rounds out my build in Aurics.
Why do people like the poison bow or whatever on Waystalker? Why not just use the long bow and actually kill things in one shot to the head?
Weapons that have had their chance and will never get another one
>heavy swords
>laspistols
>the crusher
>vigilant autoguns
>power maul
>shredder autopistol
>infantry lasguns
>thunder hammers
Thank you for your attention to this matter
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 5:36:16 AM
No.542702481
>>542702263
Because that's lame and gay.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 5:37:48 AM
No.542702617
>>542704480
>>542702263
it ain't that bad(although not super efficient with ammo in general), as I recall the main strength is boss damage
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 5:39:03 AM
No.542702720
>>542702950
>>542702449
Laspistol is still good tho, you can't really argue with infernus. Zealot and vet use it very well in aurics. Seen a vet with one in havoc 40 and he did fine.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 5:41:55 AM
No.542702950
>>542702720
It's good, but i don't like using it
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 5:47:12 AM
No.542703450
>>542702449
nah in three years when fatshark just throws up nerfs across the board and puts the game on sale for 3 dollars every weapon will have free range of H40
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 5:48:44 AM
No.542703603
>>542711652
>>542700387
Ugh, I'm very much in the addict "want to stop but can't" and I hope the day for my autism to land on something else comes soon.
Mostly because its just so demoralizing to engage with something that has so much lost potential every night.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 5:50:19 AM
No.542703756
>>542704480
>>542702263
It can kill most standard targets in 2 shots with the right build, has area of effect, stagger, and good monster damage. It's the bow with the most solo power as long as you have ammo.
But Hagbane doesn't really get to show off until Cataclysm where the enemy density is high enough to actually benefit its aoe stagger and damage over time stacking. Below that you just get to watch your team snake the kill of everything you shot just before it would die.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 5:58:31 AM
No.542704480
>>542705072
>>542728018
>>542702617
>ain't that bad
I thought the hagbane was her meta ranged weapon?
>>542703756
>Hagbane has area of effect
Ah, this must be the reason why it's so good. I didn't know it had this. Do you stack the bleed with the poison and get the trait that makes you do extra damage when shooting the same target over and over? I'm guessing you don't need conservative shooter cuz your ult restores ammo.
Also
>painted nails
>tats
Kerillian would never.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 6:05:36 AM
No.542705072
>>542704480
Hagbane doesn't work with the bleed talent because Fatshark decided not to favour the elf in this one case. Bloodshot, the double shot after kill talent, is the standard. Barrage is generally taken for monster damage and a few esoteric breakpoints. But Conservative Shooter is still a good choice for those who just want to shoot even more.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 6:26:09 AM
No.542706891
>>542709063
Hagbane except it's Fagbane and it gives your enemy AIDS
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 6:50:32 AM
No.542709063
>>542710373
>>542711492
>>542706891
Hagbane except it attracts 30+ women who are unreasonably horny.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 7:07:39 AM
No.542710373
>>542711084
>>542700387
What the hell is Valheim and why are you playing it
>>542709063
This this this
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 7:16:33 AM
No.542711084
>>542710373
a cursed game
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 7:21:50 AM
No.542711492
>>542717721
>>542709063
I dont think getting Sienna horny on the battlefield would be a good idea.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 7:23:44 AM
No.542711652
>>542703603
The game could be so much more.Instead the devs don't seem to want it to be more than this. It always happens with these early access games.
alright bros hows this (deathspitter and fire frenzy on the shotty) for my guncop
btw if it doesnt work with guns i didnt take it. i dont care about melee slop i am a gunbritator
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 7:56:20 AM
No.542714180
>>542714224
>>542713960
Hope you die irl
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 7:56:57 AM
No.542714224
>>542714180
im staying in heresy until i finish my stupid purple keystone penance then i will delete the meme builde
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 7:57:54 AM
No.542714312
>>542713960
Ugly ass PoE schizo skill tree. This is one of those instances where I crave the soulless AAA minimalism.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 8:13:26 AM
No.542715396
>>542717597
>>542714682
Too complicated for you, huh?
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 8:17:56 AM
No.542715724
>>542717597
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 8:21:15 AM
No.542715973
>>542721647
this is proving easier than i figured it would be
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 8:45:18 AM
No.542717597
>>542721862
>>542715396
Nerdy pointless tedium is artifical complexity. It's like writing a 100 page novella to describe you getting out of bed in the morning. Just give me the character building and hold the bloat.
>>542715724
Im gonna code a filter that turns "bait" into "free thinking" to improve my browsing experience for this dogshit site.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 8:46:54 AM
No.542717721
>>542711492
Why what would happen
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 9:09:02 AM
No.542719374
>>542719650
Does toughness regen speed on curios only work on coherency toughness?
Does it not work on talents like steady grip?
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 9:12:57 AM
No.542719650
>>542720016
>>542719374
exclusively coherency toughness, which is disabled in proximity with enemies or after receiving ranged damage
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 9:17:13 AM
No.542719971
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 9:17:51 AM
No.542720016
>>542720314
>>542719650
That is really dumb.
You'd think it would interact with talents like steady grip and rest of the talents that are "regenerate X% toughness over the course of 3 seconds after doing Y"
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 9:21:50 AM
No.542720314
>>542720016
It's just another vestigial component left over from the launch state of the game.
They should really just remove it to stop confusing new players but it'll probably never happen
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 9:28:13 AM
No.542720783
OH MY GOD theres a doggo class? Darktide wins.
Dt > vt > vt2
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 9:33:08 AM
No.542721127
HELLO?
CAN YOU HEAR ME?
I am talking to you from the future
DO NOT LET THE RATS GET AWAY WITH IT
the future of Darktide depends on (You), good luck Anonymous
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 9:37:45 AM
No.542721434
>>542721586
Just had a guy join my L4FD2 match, vote to lower difficulty, kill everyone while lag switching/hacking because his melee attack sounds were impossibly fast.
Then when we all revived my connection to the server wasn't working
WTF was that?
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 9:40:06 AM
No.542721586
>>542721715
>>542721434
Don't worry about it.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 9:41:01 AM
No.542721647
>>542715973
any penance that requires you to kill any enemies is piss easy
shit like killing the same number of specialists with ability nobody uses can be annoying
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 9:42:10 AM
No.542721715
>>542721829
>>542721586
REEEE
I was using Valve servers.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 9:43:40 AM
No.542721829
>>542721715
Don't. Worry. About. It.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 9:43:52 AM
No.542721852
If a shield weapon doesn't have a bash I am vomit
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 9:43:58 AM
No.542721862
>>542717597
It's really simple if you aren't retarded...
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 9:45:17 AM
No.542721961
>>542697670
live veteran reaction
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 9:45:52 AM
No.542722009
>>542723493
Why doesnt fatshark port the vt1 maps to vt2 like l4d2 did?
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 9:47:07 AM
No.542722101
>>542697989
Event modifiers got significantly harder so normies found themselves in harder difficulties and relying on retarded youtuber opinions no longer cuts it
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 9:48:31 AM
No.542722201
>>542700387
Fuck poe I'm back to Grim Dawn
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 9:50:53 AM
No.542722392
>>542722450
>>542724175
>>542702449
thunder hammer makes the only zealot build that doesn't suck work though?
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 9:51:41 AM
No.542722450
>>542722392
i think he means that he doesnt like it, anon, and not necessarily that it is (or isn't) efficacious
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 10:06:21 AM
No.542723493
>>542722009
but they do
those which can be ported 1:1 were ported like this
those which were short mini-missions without books or with 2 tomes and 1 grim were reworked
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 10:16:18 AM
No.542724175
>>542732602
>>542722392
You can just drop all the gimmicks and go crit rashad
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 10:36:28 AM
No.542725454
>>542732881
I cant get the gone bowling penance done bros
>go on high intensity/havoc
>its just shooters/ragers/crushers
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 11:09:09 AM
No.542727573
is there a cheat mod that puts an arrow in the middle of your screen to show you where your allies/their coherency bubble is/are
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 11:13:18 AM
No.542727887
>>542642651
>almost makes you wonder what the second game even added on its own
it added plenty
>>542650159
>Admittedly VT2 explicitly didn't cost full price because it was just a VT1+, better suited for longer expansion. But that was the justification they gave for it being cheaper
what? if by full price you mean 60eur, neither 1 nor 2 were full price, actually both games were priced the same
>marvel quips
this shit again
you're over-exaggerating, there is normal dialogue
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 11:15:14 AM
No.542728018
We've really gone from
>Oi Oi Oi Oi
>Mayfly Mayfly Mayfly
>Sigmar Sigmar Sigmar
>Darling Darlings Darling
>Grimnir Grimnir Grimnir
to
>Master Master Master
>Saah Saah Saah Saah
>My beloved My beloved My beloved
>Karking Karker Karky
>Lex Lex Lexy Will of the Lex
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 11:24:55 AM
No.542728691
>>542728337
(And that's a good thing)
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 11:26:09 AM
No.542728782
>>542737184
Sexy Minoris - 14
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 11:27:46 AM
No.542728893
>>542728337
>Be me
>I never pick retard personalities (Maul, Fanatic, Loose Cannon, etc)
Problem solved
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 11:43:29 AM
No.542729962
>>542702263
>Why do people like the poison bow or whatever on Waystalker?
Because you can still do FF even if you miss and accidentally hit an enemy.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:21:36 PM
No.542732465
>>542732560
What's the optimal class for zooming around the map at mach 12 for the sole purpose of combing the area for books in Darktide? I am being 100% serious I want to do these stupid librarian penances
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:23:19 PM
No.542732560
>>542732465
Zealot with knife and shroudfield
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:24:03 PM
No.542732602
>>542733630
>>542724175
Anything that zealot does with common weapons, psyker and veteran do better
The only justification for zealot existence is thammer and flamer
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:27:58 PM
No.542732881
>>542725454
Mortis trials
Blue map (not bricks or snow)
Go to the left from the center, before entering the hangar, hide behind the container
Hold block and wait for grunts to gather
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:38:22 PM
No.542733630
>>542735918
>>542732602
You have to do martyr and shroud faggotry to do anything special with it
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:40:03 PM
No.542733742
>>542733886
>>542734640
i literally cannot make a cop build to save my life bros. why does everything i think i need have to be so spaced out
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:42:16 PM
No.542733886
>>542734075
>>542733742
Because you think you need more than you really do
>>542733886
alright hows this? there is literally only a single "suboptimal" talent that i think people will give me shit for and its rebreather, but i like being able to fight in coof clouds with impunity
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:45:44 PM
No.542734107
>>542734156
Am I a bad person for using knife solely for mobility on my flame staff psyker? My quickplay teams always want to run from me, so I am trying to take measures to make sure I can always keep next to them.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:46:29 PM
No.542734156
>>542734259
>>542734107
no, but you do have to pick sprint efficiency and stamina in the perkslots to reinforce the counterstrike fantasy
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:48:05 PM
No.542734259
>>542734312
>>542734386
>>542734156
Already on it, along with 1 3 stam curio. I just always lump knife in with speed, but is there any other as fast weapons, or is knife the fastest movement weapon period?
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:48:41 PM
No.542734308
>>542737184
>>542728337
I like the personalities in Darktide.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:48:42 PM
No.542734312
>>542734259
ogryn cleaver is faster, relative, however you are probably not an ogryn on your psyker
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:49:57 PM
No.542734386
>>542734259
>only one 3 stam curio
You fucking coward. You WILL bring +9 stamina, +36% stamina regeneration, +45% sprint efficiency, and +12% ability cooldown
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:53:33 PM
No.542734640
>>542736374
>>542733742
I used this in
>>542661670
I went for more dog stuff so that i'd actually rely on it. Works very well and it makes aurics a breeze
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 12:57:39 PM
No.542734923
>>542736374
>>542734075
This is the most optimal brain dead build that uses a dog.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 1:10:55 PM
No.542735918
>>542735984
>>542736271
>>542733630
And it's the only way to play zealot now
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 1:11:49 PM
No.542735984
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 1:15:19 PM
No.542736271
>>542736736
>>542735918
nobody is bringing a martyr shroud shitter to their havocs
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 1:16:33 PM
No.542736374
>>542736584
>>542734640
i will try this one first
>>542734923
then this one
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 1:19:16 PM
No.542736584
>>542736374
>i will try this one first
Light attack spam for fast toughness
Send the dog ahead of you
Use the dog to make up for the slowness of the bolter
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 1:19:56 PM
No.542736634
>>542734075
well you did it, you made a variation of "default day 1 arbites build"
it's not popular anymore but it works
I wouldn't take a small node that gives you toughness from elite kills
If you don't run bolter for killing monstrosities, I don't think you really need 20% monstrosity damage node and +1 dodge tax node.
So you can save and reallocate 3 points, though I don't see anything that you really have to pick, you chose all meta nodes already, everything else is up to preference.
I would take +15% damage to enemies at 75%+ health for easier oneshots (because I use rashad with brutal momentum) and I would take part toughness damage reduction aura because who needs conditional 10% damage. Concussive is also overrated and is only useful when you melee monstrosities. I'd rather take extra ammo. And you really need voltaic mandibles in a dog build, otherwise dog takes forever to kill shit.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 1:21:15 PM
No.542736736
>>542736271
nobody is bringing zealots to their havocs
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 1:26:54 PM
No.542737184
>>542734308
Me too. Most of them at least. One or two of them are just plain annoying.
>>542728782
I say this.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 2:12:22 PM
No.542740732
>>542747943
this is not bait, i am being sincere. i love being a blockgod. my top 3 priorities with this build, even to my own detriment, is to
>rely on blocking as much as possible
>have okay melee damage in spite of that
>menacingly approach gunner lines, under fire, with castigator's stance and shotpistol
i dont do aurics or havoc. i am merely trying to have fun, playing in a very specific way, even if i am weaker for it.
anyway what optimizations do you guys think i could make?
>inb4 kill yourself
we will literally never run into each other. i will never affect you.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 2:37:38 PM
No.542742698
when good coop games
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 2:39:26 PM
No.542742831
Darktide: the cope times
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 2:46:04 PM
No.542743335
Zealot has no meta builds because Zealot isn't meta.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 2:47:11 PM
No.542743409
Kill yourself
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 2:58:16 PM
No.542744323
quick, someone post picture of DT scoreboard
maybe someone will care today
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 3:05:48 PM
No.542744937
My recent havoc game
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 3:11:54 PM
No.542745424
i miss green circles
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 3:12:13 PM
No.542745445
Zealot is literally unironically 100% unkillable if you arent retarded
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 3:21:01 PM
No.542746116
>>542746991
>>542747493
Generalist Veteran build. Can do melee, ranged, objectives, anything is possible.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 3:28:11 PM
No.542746636
>>542700387
That looks like a dogshit game though.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 3:32:13 PM
No.542746991
>>542747314
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 3:35:50 PM
No.542747314
>>542746991
I tried left side of the tree yesterday and ate shit. Never again. With this build I can de-aggro, reload, take down a pack of ragers and then whip out my melee again to repeat. Itβs peak comfy.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 3:37:17 PM
No.542747438
>>542748703
will lvl 20 mfs on havoc piss and shit themselves if i tell them they're not supposed to go down 3 minutes in?
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 3:37:52 PM
No.542747493
>>542746116
Is overwatch worth it
seems good in theory but I could use the point somewhere else
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 3:43:22 PM
No.542747943
>>542740732
>i dont do aurics or havoc
Then you can do whatever you want
But castigator stance feels bad without cd reduction from Execution Order, might as well start getting used to play with BTL
Also take the node ghat gives you toughness when you spend stamina, which you do on block
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 3:51:04 PM
No.542748559
>>542749063
>>542750338
Generalist Psyker build. Can do melee, ranged, objectives, anything is possible.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 3:52:51 PM
No.542748703
>>542747438
Not very wholesome chungus of you
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 3:57:06 PM
No.542749063
>>542749557
>>542748559
you vill build ze bubble and you vill like it
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 4:01:14 PM
No.542749423
Generalist Faggot build. Canβt do melee, ranged, objectives, nothing is possible.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 4:02:39 PM
No.542749557
>>542750993
>>542749063
Psykers only exist for bubble, smite and flamethrower. Everything else done better by other classes.
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 4:11:15 PM
No.542750338
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 4:17:59 PM
No.542750992
>/cope/ finally perishes in the trenches
good
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 4:17:59 PM
No.542750993
>>542749557
You people say "everything is done better by other classes" for every single class
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 4:25:30 PM
No.542751693
no one criticized my build so that means itβs good
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 4:36:26 PM
No.542752652
Anonymous
10/15/2025, 4:46:49 PM
No.542753608
>>542734075
castigator stance is completely pointless if you're even semi decent at the game, especially without any subnodes