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Anonymous No.542467803 >>542560343 >>542590314 >>542617071 >>542625895 >>542787360 >>542809587 >>542904584 >>542927502 >>543061369
/aids/ β€” AI Dynamic Storytelling General
Waaaaaay Spicy Edition

Last Thread: >>541892731
>Read First: https://i.imgur.com/lwWTTp9.png
>PSA: https://rentry.org/AntiwhineMkIII

β–ΆCloud Services
https://featherless.ai
https://novelai.net
https://openrouter.ai

β–ΆFrontends
https://koboldai.org/cpp
https://sillytavern.com
https://gitgud.io/mir/storypad-qt
https://github.com/lmg-anon/mikupad

β–ΆAdditional Information
>Chat Models β€” e.g. AetherRoom, Claude: >>>/vg/aicg
>Local Models β€” e.g. Command R, Mistral, Qwen: >>>/g/lmg

β–ΆGame(s)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1889620

β–ΆTools & Resources
Wiki: https://aids.miraheze.org
Prompts: https://prompts.forthisfeel.club/
NAI Guide Collection: https://rentry.org/guide-collection
Other/Historical: https://rentry.org/aids-miscellany
>AID: https://rentry.org/remember-what-they-took-from-you

β–Ά/aids/ Events
Themed Prompts: https://aids.miraheze.org/wiki/Theme_Fridays
>Theme Fridays have transformed into Theme Months!
>Write prompts for this month's event, Monster Month! It's not actually Horror Month, please ignore the last OP that claimed it was Horror Month, the baker responsible has been sacked. >>541595997

β–ΆModel News
>(10/01) Z.AI releases GLM-4.6: https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.6 ; NovelAI updates untuned preview to GLM-4.6: https://novelai.net/updates
>(09/29) Deepseek releases Deepseek-V3.2-Exp: https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250929 ; Anthropic releases Claude Sonnet 4.5: https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-5
>(09/26) NovelAI releases GLM-4.5 (Untuned Preview) for Opus: https://blog.novelai.net/text-model-release-introducing-glm-4-5-untuned-preview-for-novelai-opus-4aa866c8a0d5
>(09/11) NovelAI releases Character Reference: https://files.catbox.moe/08fdu6.png
>(08/21) DeepSeek releases DeepSeek-V3.1: https://x.com/deepseek_ai/status/1958417062008918312

β–ΆThread News
>(10/04) Emacs Update: >>541430001 – https://files.catbox.moe/okgzt7.el
Anonymous No.542468154
What's new in the hood my niggas?
Anonymous No.542468257 >>542471298 >>542935710
How do you feel about sexy ducky?
Anonymous No.542469279
thanks man
Anonymous No.542469582 >>542483549 >>542851002
Do you feel this describes the endpoint of most /aids/ conversations?
Anonymous No.542471298 >>542471447
>>542468257
hmm, too muscular?
Anonymous No.542471447
>>542471298
He was in the navy though
Anonymous No.542472875
>>542391052
>several effective tools
Interesting. Can you explain why letting the model chooses a number of tokens is supposed to fix its issues better than letting it chooses another number of tokens? The underlying model is the same and the token choices have no access to underlying semantic context of the story whatsoever.
Don't get me wrong, I really hope the presets, somehow, magically work as their description says, but I want to ensure that I know its mechanism to pick the one best suite for each story.
Anonymous No.542475830 >>542478096
Anonymous No.542478096
>>542475830
Anonymous No.542482680 >>542482956 >>542483091 >>542493365 >>542542890 >>542731000 >>542731350
so how do I fix GLM giving me basically the same response on retries?
Anonymous No.542482956
>>542482680
Crank up the randomness
But good luck
Anonymous No.542483084 >>542485334
Are there any was to add images to a story?
I figured they'd have one given how heavy they're going with the image generation thing.
Anonymous No.542483091
>>542482680
more human input = more perplexity = more randomness
Anonymous No.542483549
>>542469582
Yes
Anonymous No.542485334 >>542485475 >>542485638
>>542483084
>surely they would let some pedos put loli images in the story AND store it on the server
lol
lmao
Anonymous No.542485475 >>542485636 >>542485701
>>542485334
I mean, if they're already generating said images on their own servers anyway...
Anonymous No.542485636
>>542485475
They never store the images.
A pen seller doesn't go to jail because someone uses his pen to draw anime children.
Anonymous No.542485638
>>542485334
You can already make loli. They just nuked the realistic dataset which sucks becauase I want to make realistic non-lolis and can't.
Anonymous No.542485701 >>542487930 >>542491027 >>542508002
>>542485475
Yeah, but they don't stay there, that's the difference. They're generated and then immediately shoved into your browser's cache, after which NAI wipes their hands and says "loli smut? Not on my server, no idea what you're talking about". I don't quite understand where the specific difference lies myself, but they've always been very cagey about this sort of thing (see also the photorealistic purging and the part where they once wanted to host vanilla SD1 but then rapidly backpedaled after chatting with their lawyer).
I don't think saving images in stories will ever really happen.
Anonymous No.542486507 >>542486830 >>542487732
Have they fixed GLM slop yet?
Anonymous No.542486830
>>542486507
check inside your anus
Anonymous No.542487732
>>542486507
Nope.
Anonymous No.542487930 >>542488087
>>542485701
Saving images to a story doesn't require saving images to their servers. It's as simple as allowing you to paste a link to an offsite image hoster and reading the image from that link.
Anonymous No.542488057
Somebody save me from this faggy conversation.
Anonymous No.542488087 >>542488258
>>542487930
>FBI: Chief, this novelai.net connects to loliimages.com ten thousands times a day. What now?
Anonymous No.542488258 >>542488403
>>542488087
Let me know when you have an actual counterpoint that's based in reality.
Anonymous No.542488403
>>542488258
Let me know when you have an actual counterpoint that's based in reality.
Anonymous No.542488476
>Catbox doesn't exist
Mmmkay. Enjoy arguing with yourself.
Anonymous No.542488706
>Catbox allows loli
Mmmkay. Enjoy arguing with youself.
Anonymous No.542488878 >>542490235
Catbox allows loli and shota art, as anyone who's actually uses it knows. That you falsely equate it with what's not allowed is solely because you have a vendetta to grind.
That you think the FBI deals with loli also demonstrates a severe lack of understanding.
Cry about it, loser. Your argument has no foundation.
Anonymous No.542489443 >>542489629 >>542526227
>>542411527
>>542411928
I had no idea CPC propaganda was like THIS
Anonymous No.542489629
>>542489443
Oh, don't you worry, he'll now move the goals.
Anonymous No.542490235
>>542488878
https://files.catbox.moe/u6fchv.mp4

Man, sometimes it spits out gold, then other times it's complete shit.
Anonymous No.542490275
>it's legal to add link to image hosting sites and display those images
So,
>NAI can't add images to a story and they aren't doing it
Then they are incompetent.
>NAI can't add images to a story and they are doing it
Then they are taking years to do what a CS undergraduate can do in a single afternoon.
>NAI can add images to a story and they aren't doing it
Then they don't care about their users.
>NAI can add images to a story and they are doing it
Then where is my feature?
Anonymous No.542491027 >>542495206 >>542497630
>>542485701
If we have local saves for stories why couldn't we have local saves for images?
Anonymous No.542493365
>>542482680
If it gets stuck on rerolls, replace the paragraph with a short sentence and use Expand. You can also be more direct and give it an instruction with { } to tell it specifically what to do, like "Billy and Sarah make passionate love to the donkey" or "Describe the appearance of each character" and it will do so for the next several outputs.
Anonymous No.542495206 >>542495437 >>542497854
>>542491027
Images are much bigger than stories and even for stories, they randomly get deleted by browsers all the time.
Anonymous No.542495437 >>542495947 >>542533992
>>542495206
>Images are much bigger than stories
Is this why pictures are worth a thousand words?
Anonymous No.542495947
>>542495437
Going by file size, some images are worth millions of words.
Anonymous No.542497630
>>542491027
We do, in debug tools, it's just buggy.
Anonymous No.542497854 >>542499142
>>542495206
Couldn't this be fixed with a option to manually download and upload the illustrations of each story?
Anonymous No.542499072
Okay what if textgen made ASCII art only
Anonymous No.542499142 >>542502317
>>542497854
>download
Can't inline manually downloaded files in stories.
>upload
Then you have to store them serverside, which needs encryption and takes a lot of space. I don't know, maybe space is cheap enough that it wouldn't matter, but it doesn't seem completely trivial.
Anonymous No.542502317 >>542503863
>>542499142
Explain how chub files do it.
Anonymous No.542503863 >>542504581
>>542502317
I don't know what a chub file is. Dick pics of semis?
Anonymous No.542504581 >>542506009
>>542503863
It's a site that encodes images in stories via offsite links that the website displays inside the app.
Anonymous No.542506009
>>542504581
Tell them in feed back channel in their discord.
Anonymous No.542508002
>>542485701
I don't really know how they handle the image requests but I never fully bought into this since they've said all the requests are still handled in plain text anyway
Besides even if they only offer remote storage for text stories they're evidently still stored somewhere
Anonymous No.542509640 >>542509895 >>542511474 >>542512038 >>542512256 >>542526276
is glm worth buying opus for
Anonymous No.542509895
>>542509640
check inside your anus
Anonymous No.542511474 >>542512213 >>542542072
>>542509640
If you're asking this question then just wait for the finetune
I'm aware of the irony in posting this in this general but I'm always surprised by how many people that treat NAI as a textgen service with an optional imagegen rather than the other way around
Anonymous No.542512038
>>542509640
It's pretty gud, but I really don't think there's any point until the finetune is out, as far as spending money. Especially if you aren't interested in imagegen.
Anonymous No.542512213
>>542511474
What do you insist on typing bullshit comments like this? NovelAI is a textgen service.
Anonymous No.542512256
>>542509640
depends on what you're using now and how much you're spending
Anonymous No.542513105 >>542513176
>havent used llms in months
>let's check what's new with my friends in /aids/
>news section is nothingburgers
Have we really peaked here?
Anonymous No.542513176 >>542513789
>>542513105
Are you sure you read the news?
Anonymous No.542513789
>>542513176
>+0.1 version updates on Chinese cope models that we can't even run locally on a normal pc
>new Claude model, except Claude already peaked at 3.7
Eh... If the model can't read my mind through subtle textual patterns that are impossible to be inferred through conventional means and proceed to blow my mind by now it's a nothingburger.
Anonymous No.542514039
Oh, it's you again. The mods really need to ban your ass.
Anonymous No.542514395 >>542515591
Good to see you've mellowed out, angryanon.
Anonymous No.542514576
Working on a prompt based off the Imaizumin doujins, need to design three "gal" characters and think up personalities.
Anonymous No.542514736
Has the Japanese userbase touched the textgen service at all with the addition of moonrune support or do they just jerk off to anime girls
Anonymous No.542515591 >>542516817
>>542514395
Why barge into a thread to shit on models you no longer have an interest in? Surely you have better things to do than obsess about random strangers over the internet...
Anonymous No.542516589 >>542517501
PFTF?
Anonymous No.542516817 >>542517147 >>542517164 >>542517229
>>542515591
I didn't shit on models per se, more like expressed my disgruntlement at the lack of substantial developments in this hobby I used to enjoy, and hope to enjoy again. And perhaps seeing what my friends are up to these days might give me a spark of inspiration.
Anonymous No.542517147
>>542516817
Going by your grievances, it's a you problem.
Anonymous No.542517164 >>542519261 >>542519261
>>542516817
You haven't bothered to use any of the models which came out within less than a month ago. That means you have no base of which to support your claims. That you think state of the art models are cope, without bothering to use them, demonstrates how flawed this thought process of yours is. The technology, and by proxy, the thread hasn't peeked. Don't bother posting if you aren't willing to do anything but doom. Genuinely, your posts aren't worthwhile. If you had bothered to use anything in the OP, instead of dismissing it as a waste of effort, you would surely have more fun that whatever this farce is.
Anonymous No.542517229
>>542516817
GLM 4.6 is the best writing experience I've had yet
I was coping with chat style but I now remember why I like autocomplete more.
Anonymous No.542517501 >>542518165
>>542516589
>turns into yurishit at the end
Ruined
Anonymous No.542518165 >>542518302 >>542518340 >>542518524
>>542517501
Well, Madison is an ambiguous enough name that "me" could be a guy.
Anonymous No.542518302 >>542518552
>>542518165
maybe for a civil war era southern gentleman but today that's a girl's name
Anonymous No.542518340
>>542518165
It is a gender neutral name, so I don't know why he immediately equated it with yuri.
Anonymous No.542518524 >>542519183
>>542518165
I can accept that a man could be named Madison but not that he would go by Maddie.
Anonymous No.542518552 >>542518710
>>542518302
There are men named Madison alive today. Madison Cawthorn. Mafia Hedgecock. Madison Hughes. Need I go on?
Anonymous No.542518710
>>542518552
https://genderize.io/names/madison
Anonymous No.542518842 >>542519629
Why do you deny reality? Madison is a fender neutral name. Men alive today have the name. That you think it's weird says more about you than it does anything else.
Anonymous No.542519010
I guess this man doesn't exist?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madison_Hughes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madison_Bumgarner
Anonymous No.542519183
>>542518524
Generally maybe, but surely his MILF friend that molests him while he talks about brainrot would get to do that, right?
Anonymous No.542519261 >>542519608 >>542523353
>>542517164
Does the quality degrade if you use instruct to prompt it?

>>542517164
State of the art models aren't necessarily better, especially for creative usecases which are very much subjective. If you were like me and used every new model but still think old ass command-R beats them in prose you would lose hope after some point.
The thread peaked during AID though, that's a fact
Anonymous No.542519608
>>542519261
GLM was specifically chosen by NAI to fine-tune because it performs optimally for creative purposes, unlike other models.
>This thread peaked
Wrong. Kindly cease posting comments like these. They serve no purpose. If you spent more time contributing instead of whining about the past with your rose-tinted glasses on, you'd realize things are much better than you misinterpret them as.
Anonymous No.542519629
>>542518842
sorry maddie but you have a girl's name
Anonymous No.542519910
Would likely not be a good time to test it. They just pushed a mod to try and fix some technical issues.
Anonymous No.542521750 >>542522905
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQKIeuyt6rk

This shit is fucking amazing: https://gemini.google/overview/storybook/
Anonymous No.542522905 >>542523517
>>542521750
>characters look nothing like how they should look like
>room looks completely different too
???
Anonymous No.542523353 >>542523636
>>542519261
I'm gonna sidestep the argument and answer in good faith, but yes. Mid-story instructions seem to work really well at directing events, especially when rerolls aren't "getting it" or get locked into a repetitive loop. I've also had a lot of fun with the latent shift tool to make a random paragraph "kinda hornier". I'm on mobile or I'd post examples.

If anyone's genuinely wondering if it's worth 25bux, it's night and day to their older models. I haven't messed with any other textgen or even kept up on LLMs for a number of months, though, so there may be better options for price or writing capability. But this is pretty easy and intuitive to use, so it's good enough for me and still novel (hurr) enough that I can't spot the flaws yet.
Anonymous No.542523517
>>542522905
The fun part is not that its supposed to be correct. The fun part is taking seemingly adult stories and presenting them as kiddy fairy tales.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHA_zkdqUBs
Anonymous No.542523636 >>542525681
>>542523353
Uh, I meant no, it doesn't degrade. Don't mind me, for I am retarded and cannot read, in this thread about a writing game.
Anonymous No.542524272
Had handsome as a black the technology 30th of the this which often partook the soft-spoken
Nai is shit.
Anonymous No.542525681 >>542526227
>>542523636
degradation happen instantly, communist propaganda inserted randomly, cybermonitoring for wrongthink mandatory
Anonymous No.542526227
>>542525681
>>542489443
Anonymous No.542526276 >>542528002
>>542509640
try it out on openrouter
once the finetune comes out, maybe that'll be a yes
Anonymous No.542528002
>>542526276
They won't be able to fix the slop, shill. GLM is worse than Calliope.
Anonymous No.542531285 >>542532940
>ask Gemini story to tell the story of ShindoL's Metamorphosis but as a kid-friendly story
>get a story about a caterpillar undergoing metamorphosis

....kinda wholesome, actually.
Anonymous No.542532940 >>542533281 >>542533563
>>542531285
Post it, how does it describe her getting respected
Anonymous No.542533281
>>542532940
Its really, really sanitized man. It's literally just a caterpillar becoming a butterfly. Also a ladybug tells her not to be afraid of change. I'll post the full thing when I get back.
Anonymous No.542533563
>>542532940
Its really, really sanitized man. It's literally just a caterpillar becoming a butterfly. Also a ladybug tells her not to be afraid of change before she turns into a chrysalis and becomes a butterfly. I'll post the full thing when I get back.
Anonymous No.542533992 >>542536186
>>542495437
It's funny how pictures are worth a thousand words but an image model is smaller/easier to run than a text one
Anonymous No.542536186
>>542533992
Our brains are Imagegen
Anonymous No.542536281 >>542538697
Where are all the openrouter storyboards?
Anonymous No.542538697 >>542538950
>>542536281
check inside your anus
Anonymous No.542538950
>>542538697
you know, vulgaranon
you're not so bad after all
Anonymous No.542539575 >>542539640 >>542540308
Hey guys, a passage of time has occurred and I looked on NovelAI's website and it said that they have a new textgen model. Does that mean that NovelAI has a new textgen model?
Anonymous No.542539640 >>542539747
>>542539575
not yet
Anonymous No.542539747 >>542539820
>>542539640
I don't know how to read this. Can somebody tell me what this says?
Anonymous No.542539820 >>542539909
>>542539747
feels good but makes a big mess
Anonymous No.542539909
>>542539820
Can somebody tell me what this says as well?
Anonymous No.542540308 >>542543957
>>542539575
500 Internal Server Error
Anonymous No.542542072 >>542543121
>>542511474
unless you're on a potato, only a retard pays for imagegen
Anonymous No.542542890
>>542482680
I have made a preset called "Full Random" where I just disable every sampler. Turn off Nucleus sampling, turn off top-k, and make randomness = 1. I have done this for every model, and usually it gives very "creative" output compared to the defaults. But for GLM it only tones it down a bit.
Anonymous No.542543121 >>542543250
>>542542072
Says who? Nobody died and made you the authority of anything.
Anonymous No.542543250 >>542543343
>>542543121
Says me.
You're paying for a service that YOU could do better for FREE.
So yes, you're a retard.
Anonymous No.542543343 >>542544632
>>542543250
Define "better".
Anonymous No.542543384 >>542543446
Get a room and shut the fuck, both of you are equally retarded.
Anonymous No.542543446
>>542543384
I may be retarded but at least I'm not retarded.
Anonymous No.542543576 >>542543636 >>542543727
Having access to GLM for cheaper than my average rolls would cost me on OpenRouter, plus the writing tools and UI that comes with it, alongside premium imagegen as a bonus isn't retarded. Cope with your premium slop.
Anonymous No.542543636 >>542543713
>>542543576
Since when is 25 a month not premium?
Anonymous No.542543713
>>542543636
That is less than two hours of work.
Anonymous No.542543727
>>542543576
>premium slop
*free local slop
Anonymous No.542543805 >>542544897 >>542545193
Grok is pretty fun. I'll have to give Sora 2 a try sometime too. Video gen has ramped up so much in the past year. I guess most things have though on the AI front.
>https://files.catbox.moe/ppad6q.mp4
>https://files.catbox.moe/xdjd10.mp4
Anonymous No.542543957 >>542544329 >>542544602
>>542540308
I only get this error once I get a bit past the context limit and then I get it like every two or three rolls
It's happened for four separate stories now so it cannot possibly be a coincidence
Somebody should tell turk there's something fishy going on with long stories
I will not because I don't feel like joining the discord
Anonymous No.542544329 >>542544397
>>542543957
They are already aware that there is an issue, I don't know if the issue they're working on is the same as the one you're experiencing, but they've done test fix phases today.
Anonymous No.542544397 >>542544942
>>542544329
Oh, good
Thanks for letting me know, it gets fucking annoying
Anonymous No.542544602
>>542543957
I have always had issues with NAI when sending lots of data to their servers, imagegen or text. Now they increased the context size it is sending a lot more text than it used to. I think if you don't have a super high end internet connection, it just can't handle it.
Anonymous No.542544632 >>542544759 >>542544851 >>542549313 >>542550420
>>542543343
NAI produces generic animeslop.
You can produce every style imaginable, with more tools and customization with Stable Diffusion.
Anonymous No.542544759 >>542547736
>>542544632
NAI is more than capable of producing more than "generic animeslop", as anyone who's used it knows. Therefore, your opinion is invalid. Have a nice day.
Anonymous No.542544851
>>542544632
yeah but how much does a high end graphics card cost and how long until it's obsolete again?
Anonymous No.542544897 >>542545336 >>542545589
>>542543805
Sora 2 has been pretty fun.
https://files.catbox.moe/z1n7e7.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/3p0d3m.mp4
Anonymous No.542544942 >>542545575
>>542544397
If possible, more screenshots of the issue would help luna resolve problems.
He's been pushing multiple attempts at making glm more stable all day
Anonymous No.542545193 >>542545352 >>542545589
>>542543805
I'm surprised Grok lets you make "spicy" images
Anonymous No.542545336
>>542544897
Kino jew fox girl
Anonymous No.542545352
>>542545193
*videos
Anonymous No.542545575 >>542545717
>>542544942
There's not much to screenshot, it's just every time I get a long ass story that hits about 30k words and who knows how many tokens, I get a "error 500s" out the ass
and I really don't wish to subject anyone else to some of Bonzi's greatest hits, if you catch my drift
Anonymous No.542545589
>>542544897
Both of those are corrupt for me for some reason... Maybe it's just my ancient-ass work computer.
I do wish there was also a toggle to generate videos WITHOUT sound in Grok though. 90% of the time it just sounds like actual hell. Would save the extra steps too.
>>542545193
Yeah, it's definitely janky though. I'm figuring out the prompting part a bit better though. It REALLY helps to be very thorough for those.
Anonymous No.542545717 >>542545817 >>542545950
>>542545575
The errors and the numbers that pop up are the screenshots he wants.
Anonymous No.542545817
>>542545717
OK, hold on, I'll see if I can get it to trigger
Anonymous No.542545950
>>542545717
It's usually either one of these or an Error 500
Anonymous No.542546119
>will make a glm hotfix to help on the 500 errors
>hopefully works
Anonymous No.542546576 >>542546723
Pftf?
https://files.catbox.moe/rn09sr.png
Anonymous No.542546723 >>542546881
>>542546576
I can never understand the appeal of this
Anonymous No.542546881
>>542546723
I don't care for the personality excrement portion. The signatures with the lips, cunt, and ass is what I find hot.
Anonymous No.542547171
>we've been trying to make stability fixes for glm, and in the process made it worse
Anonymous No.542547736 >>542548796
>>542544759
Post a single image you've produced with NAI that you think is good.
Anonymous No.542547859
>responding to a comment from a half hour ago
As if anyone here needed further proof you're just here to stir shit.
Anonymous No.542548796 >>542549002 >>542549164
>>542547736
NTA
Anonymous No.542549002
>>542548796
imagine the pets
Anonymous No.542549164 >>542549250
>>542548796
This shit can do anything if you prompt it enough
Anonymous No.542549250
>>542549164
Not to mention vibes and character reference.
Anonymous No.542549313
>>542544632
>stable diffusion in the big 2025
Wow so retro
Anonymous No.542550019
One more Sora 2.
https://files.catbox.moe/vd0isj.mp4
Anonymous No.542550420
>>542544632
>Claudefag cries and screeches for his parents to buy him the most powerful, expebsive rig
>but not for a sub for things he wants to use
Anonymous No.542551000 >>542551074 >>542551147 >>542553107 >>542554535 >>542568786
psychologytoday.com/us/blog/women-who-stray/201808/science-stopped-believing-in-porn-addiction-you-should-too

Confirmed to not be a problem unless you beliefs make you think it's a problem.
Another win for open-mindedness.
Goon away, brothers. We are all going to make it.
Anonymous No.542551074
>>542551000
I need water.
Anonymous No.542551147 >>542551218
>>542551000
>he's still mad 2 threads later
You're starting to sound like a crackhead now
Anonymous No.542551218
>>542551147
What are you talking about?
Anonymous No.542551390 >>542551685
does anyone know of a good frontend that functions similarly to novelai? i have been using sillytavern with openrouter for a little while since nai has fallen behind and the back-and-forth format is not really working for me. koboldai lite is the closest replacement to nai i've found but leaves much to be desired
Anonymous No.542551685 >>542561673
>>542551390
Are you aware that NovelAI had a major update recently and presently hosts GLM 4.6 as a preview for the fine-tuned version they seek to offer?
Anonymous No.542553107 >>542554004
>>542551000
It sounds like they're analysing feeling bad about porn use, versus actually having problematic outcomes or behaviors because of porn use? This is like studying whether gambling addiction exists based off whether people feel bad when they gamble and not whether they go into debt or spend all day every day at the casino.
Anonymous No.542554004 >>542554521 >>542554898
>>542553107
An outcome is, by definition, only problematic is you feel bad about it.
Anonymous No.542554521 >>542554757
>>542554004
Yep, alcoholism is only a problem because of the hangovers so you should drink all the time so you never have hangovers btw
Anonymous No.542554535
>>542551000
lol lmao addict
Anonymous No.542554757 >>542555012 >>542556219
>>542554521
I'm positive that nobody has ever felt good with a hangover. Do you know how to read? Because I quite clearly said an outcome is only problematic if you feel bad about it. Show me how a hangover doesn't, by virtue of being a hangover, feel bad.
It's like you're intentionally choosing to ignore the statement I typed, and are reacting to a made-up one you see in your head.
Anonymous No.542554898 >>542555224
>>542554004
There is absolutely a problematic level of porn use, whether you acknowledge it's problematic or not. It's whatever level personally makes you give up other things in life to view porn (not hanging out with people you would otherwise want to hang out with because it would take you away from being able to watch porn), makes you act in inappropriate ways that hurt you (watching porn in public/at work/other places it's not appropriate to watch porn), or makes you cause yourself physical harm (death grip syndrome, jerking off so much/often you hurt yourself, etc).
Porn ITSELF is fine. It's a neutral activity. Drinking is fine, getting fired because you showed up drunk to work and threw up on your boss is not. Shopping is fine, racking up 10 grand in credit card debt over the weekend that you can't pay is not. Eating is fine, having ten cheeseburgers a day is not.
Anonymous No.542555012 >>542555373
>>542554757
actually I remember reading an account from some guy with a personality disorder who said that his symptoms were completely alleviated when he was hung over (specifically only then, not while drunk) and he really enjoyed it, so there's at least one person
Anonymous No.542555024 >>542556026 >>542556143 >>542556851
You could go a week without watching porn, right anon? Because it's so easy and you're not addicted? You wouldn't even think about it, right?
Anonymous No.542555224 >>542556152
>>542554898
Yes, I agree with you there. However, it doesn't qualify as addiction, because it does not meet the requirements to be considered an addiction. This is the part where the "if you feel bad about it" comes into play. Everyone has a different tolerance level for stimuli. To argue that there is an addictive element to a non-addictive medium, thereby giving credence to the government to implement bans and mandatory identification to consume a medium, is the only thing that arguing porn addiction is real does.
I, for one, do not support giving the government such authority. Why are you falling for their ruse, when the evidence demonstrates that the issues which arise constitute a different ailment altogther?
Anonymous No.542555373
>>542555012
Interesting. Brain trauma related?
Anonymous No.542556026
>>542555024
>watching porn
I mean yeah I could do that. Already do
Anonymous No.542556143
>>542555024
I use text gen instead now
Anonymous No.542556152 >>542556601
>>542555224
I never said the government should be allowed to restrict porn? I don't think that. Banning or gating porn wouldn't fix whatever made that person act that way, whether it's a genetic predisposition for addictive behavior, having a habit of focusing too hard on something new and interesting to the detriment of other things in their life, or something like being in a bad mental place or living situation and just trying to feel better. They'll replace it with something else if the source issue isn't addressed.
I don't think it's a physiological addiction like drugs, I think it's a psychological addiction. Porn is a 'give dopamine now' button and some people are bad at not being the rats that hammer the button until they starve, whether it's gambling, shopping, food, social media, whatever.
Whether people call it an addiction or not is semantics to me. It is an easy way to discuss it without having to put a bunch of caveats on the speaker's specific definition in-context, though, which is why the term keeps being used.
Anonymous No.542556219 >>542557480
>>542554757
RAPE IS GOOD IF YOU DON'T FEEL BAD ABOUT IT
Anonymous No.542556601 >>542557376 >>542557480
>>542556152
Have you seen how ineffective the war on drugs has been? Giving credence to the idea that porn is an addiction substance does little but hasten efforts by the usual suspects to legislate a ban on the material to "protect the children". Which I find problematic, because they won't with porn.
My point is, that if enough people believe a neutral medium inherently causes an addiction, even if experts disagree... Then legislators will use that as an excuse to "solve" the "problem".
These specific medical terms have specific definitions and criteria for evaluating them.
Allowing people to twist those definitions and expand them allows certain hypocrites in power who hate themselves for using something their faith or personal beliefs makes them feel shameful aboutβ€”they believe they get to decide for everyone.
Do you want others to make that decision?
I would rather that not happen, and thus refuse to use wrong terminology to describe things. It's not a mere semantic difference. It's a matter of principles and an adherence to reality.
Anonymous No.542556604
>find out you can just use NAI within SillyTavern
>cards all have a retarded format that the NAI finetunes don't understand
fug
Anonymous No.542556683
reminds me i jorked it at werk
Anonymous No.542556851
>>542555024
that's a pointless question, I don't intend to ever find out
Anonymous No.542556949 >>542557623
>war on drugs
>not about selling drugs and blaming it on someone else
foreign actors are a thing tbf most of it is chinese
Anonymous No.542557376
>>542556601
It IS a semantic argument. The behavior is addictive, because it is, definitionally, "a persistent and intense urge to use a drug or engage in a behavior that produces natural reward, despite substantial harm and other negative consequences". You're refusing to call a spade a spade as if the term being used for it is what makes people use it to dig, and they'd use it for something else if only you called it by a different word.
Puritans want to restrict porn because they think sex is inherently bad outside of restricted contexts. Even if you had undeniable proof from God and his entire celestial choir that porn makes you live to 500 years old, become super rich and charismatic, get superpowers, and never have another health problem again, they'd still think it was bad because them wanting to restrict porn is a SYMPTOM of them wanting to control people's sexual lives, not a RESULT of them caring about "porn addiction". You are looking at the outcome and thinking it's the source.
Anonymous No.542557480
>>542556219
NTA, but if rape didn't hurt people then it wouldn't be a problem, so that's kind of a truism, isn't it?
>>542556601
I think there are different kinds of addiction that need different approaches to treat them. I think someone can have behavioural "addictions" that might need some structured therapy or self help to change.
"porn is inherently addictive" is obviously misinformation, and puritans are of course always willing to lie and misrepresent reality to get what they want, so we should look for the truth first anyway.
Anonymous No.542557623 >>542559165 >>542562147
>>542556949
>these addictive substances are bad
>we need to outlaw them
>instead of treating addicts and increasing mental health funding to adequately decrease instances of addiction, criminalize them and fail to improve anything
>this destroys communities and damages the tax base, resulting in a decline in generational wealth for descendants of people labeled as addicts and criminalized for a mental health/medical issue that could have been treated humanely
,>hello new scapegoat to use for votes
This is what I mean with that comparison.
People who insist that porn addiction is real are in two camps. Those who know it's not real, but who know they can make an issue which they can scapegoat to miadirect attention from their policy failures, and those who got conned into believing that's the "problem" they should concern themselves with.
If the general populace of the legislative bodies believe a problem needs solving, they will profit off of its criminalization.
Is any of this making sense to you?
Porn is not addictive. Experts continuously have made that clear. That you continue to claim it is, despite the evidence saying otherwise, really makes this a futile discussion.
Anonymous No.542558661 >>542559303
>y chinguen y chinguen y chinguen y chinguen
Okay anon, It's all the Catholic elite's fault or something. You're definitely not addicted and you're definitely not derailing the thread with your cope.
Anonymous No.542559063
had to google that gibberish
ugly
Anonymous No.542559165 >>542559523 >>542559847
>>542557623
We literally have this argument every few weeks when you come back around with some article or whatever to argue that viewing porn, out of all the activities that produce dopamine, is somehow the magical one that humans, who get hooked on everything from buying shitty plastic toys to eating cake to scrolling through videos to pressing buttons on a controller, can't get hooked on, and if they CAN get hooked on it, then it's, like, a special not-bad kind of hooked that isn't the scary A-word because addictions are bad and if you let someone call jerking your dick bloody or getting caught watching Anal Threesomes 12 at a funeral a Bad Thing, it's the literal next step for the Porn Gestapo to come to your house and sentence you to death by firing squad.
What, do you trigger this in yourself when you go on a porn binge and feel bad about it or something, and you have to reassure yourself that you're not a self-harming freak? You can watch porn without getting a thread consensus on your own normalcy and wellbeing, it's fucking fine.
Anonymous No.542559303 >>542559637
>>542558661
>the experts,.whose studies continously show no causation can be established, isn't trustworthy, therefore we have to belive porn addiction definitely exists, and that it isn't a psyop
Anonymous No.542559523
>>542559165
What are you smoking? It hasn't even been a single week.
Anonymous No.542559561 >>542559729
I wish I could get hooked on something right about now. All I want to do is lie in bed.
Anonymous No.542559637 >>542560205
>>542559303
>b-but the hecking science!
Anonymous No.542559729
>>542559561
>hooked on lots of things
>lie in bed because of long working hours
AAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE
Anonymous No.542559847 >>542560603
>>542559165
Addictions, as defined by medicial professionals, involve specific genetic markers the activies you describe do not involve. As per the available evidence, the only addictive substances are drugs, which involves more than just dopamine receptors being tampered with, and gambling. Please, for fuck sake, read a medical journal and understand the difference between a medical diagnosis and hyperbolic statements laymen make
Anonymous No.542560205
>>542559637
Anyone who makes a decision without systematic evidence in support of their decision is an idiot. It's that simple.
Anonymous No.542560343 >>542560543 >>542560557
>>542467803 (OP)

Smut Sisters. We're saved!!!
https://futurism.com/future-society/openai-chatgpt-smut

https://nz.news.yahoo.com/openai-says-move-allow-smut-130000383.html

https://www.theverge.com/news/793245/openai-will-eventually-allow-mature-chatgpt-apps
Anonymous No.542560485
If you want people to recognize a problem that current evidence does not suggest is an actual problem, request more thorough studies on the subject matter.
Arguing that porn addiction is real is equivalent to filing a lawsuit on somebody without having evidence that they committed any wrongdoing. Decisions made with a lack of evidence don't end well for anyone involve.
That is all I ask.
Anonymous No.542560517 >>542560557 >>542560882
not reading any of that shit
I already know the solution is to nuke Israel
Anonymous No.542560543
>>542560343
I do not care about Altman and his latest cash grab.
Anonymous No.542560557
>>542560343
>>542560517
Anonymous No.542560603 >>542560710
>>542559847
Argue whatever you want, dude. This is clearly some kind of personal issue to you and I don't care about trying to untangle whatever neurosis you have about porn.
Anonymous No.542560710 >>542560765 >>542560819 >>542561001
>>542560603
>I refuse to accept expert consensus on matters beyond my qualifications
This is the problem with society today. Too many people think expert opinion is useless.
Anonymous No.542560758
Definitely not obsessed about porn award
Anonymous No.542560765 >>542560851
>>542560710
>too many people
*not enough
Anonymous No.542560819
>>542560710
Anonymous No.542560851
>>542560765
I feel bad for you and your family.
Anonymous No.542560882
>>542560517
trvke
Anonymous No.542561001 >>542561140
>>542560710
I thought the problem is people being incapable of spotting obvious bait.
Anonymous No.542561140
>>542561001
We were having a civil discussion.
Anonymous No.542561673
>>542551685
yes but i dont want to pay until the finetune comes out
Anonymous No.542562147 >>542562285 >>542562404
>>542557623
You can argue about the semantics of calling it a porn addiction or not but some people very clearly have an unhealthy obsession with pornography and masturbation to the point that it interferes with their day to day life, akin to some addictive substances
Anonymous No.542562285 >>542562547
>>542562147
I think this guy will just sperg out no matter how much you try to talk sense into him
Anonymous No.542562381
Anonymous No.542562404 >>542563107
>>542562147
And yet, medical experts disagree that it meets the criteria for addiction, as they have done for over a decade of research. What part of that do you not understand? Something can be a problem without being an addiction.
Anonymous No.542562547
>>542562285
The sensible thing for him to do would be to quit calling something an addiction when it doesn't fit the specific criteria to be considered one. Definitions matter. Don't misuse terminology. Is that really so difficult?
Anonymous No.542563107 >>542564021
>>542562404
Okay? Why are you so obsessed with it not being called an addiction? I fail to see how calling it a "pornography issue" instead of addiction is going to make it sound any different to people. Do you really feel so strongly about not calling it an addiction because it technically isn't or whatever?
Anonymous No.542564021
>>542563107
Yes. Medical terms are important. Would you trust a doctor who calls a cancerous tumor a lesion, and proceeds to treat it ad though it were a lesion, instead of a cancerous tumor? Calling something an addiction when it isn't inhibits formulating a proper method to treat it. Before you can properly treat something, you need evidence to determine what exactly it does and which groups are most at risk. Which is why evidence is important... We need more studies done, and we need to wait for those studies to be done.
Anonymous No.542564595
Now, rather than continuing this, can we move on and do more productive things that are more pertinent to the thread?
Anonymous No.542565086
my pp hurt
Anonymous No.542565103
When is it supposed to drop to the other tiers?
Anonymous No.542566412 >>542566584 >>542568229 >>542569747
does anyone know how to make glm stop giving the same response when i ask for a retry? it pretty much gives the exact same line when i retry even with high temp
Anonymous No.542566584 >>542566978
>>542566412
You already asked that once this thread.
Anonymous No.542566978
>>542566584
wasnt me but i saw the other post. i cant use any of the novelai tools because i am using openrouter but i will try what the poster said with disabling top-k and such. trying to put randomness above 1 causes non english words to start popping up
Anonymous No.542568229
>>542566412
Use writer's toolbox custom tool. It's also the best way to continue a story.
Anonymous No.542568786 >>542578467
>>542551000
We probably could have avoided this whole discussion if someone had decided to check out the β€œmany sources” that this anon brought up. If you had checked, you would have known that:
A) Psychologytoday is not peer-reviewed, nor neutral, much less reliable
B) The article is a biased opinion piece based exclusively on a single scientific study
C) The article does not truly express the conclusions of that one scientific study, which only suggests an alternative explanation for the feeling of addiction to pornography, but does not rule out the existence of clinical addiction to pornography

I think it should already be evident from the way the article uses the word β€œscience” as if it were a person. But anyway, I think it's too much to ask from crackhead-kun to have the minimum knowledge about what is a valid source for any discussion about science.
Anonymous No.542569747
>>542566412
Min p
Anonymous No.542571546
Ask your current ai the probability we're on a farm planet overseen by a more advanced species with sheep in charge given the current global circumstances or knowledge thst the planet is already too far gone for a hard reset
Anonymous No.542573713 >>542574134
>ss incest story
>she remembers teaching me to walk
FUCK this cuts so deep
Anonymous No.542574118
Anonymous No.542574134 >>542574479
>>542573713
I wanna read it, out of curiosity
Anonymous No.542574479
>>542574134
it's a bit too personal
Anonymous No.542578467
>>542568786
Fuck off.
Anonymous No.542578696 >>542579164
Porn addiction isn't a thing, you and your cult of pseudo puritans need to get a life and quit astroturfing the hobbies I enjoy. Go back to plebbit where you belong.
Anonymous No.542579164 >>542579246
>>542578696
holy shit just stop fucking posting about it then
it's that easy
Anonymous No.542579246 >>542579410
>>542579164
Then don't reply to me and call me a crackhead for disagreeing with you, prick.
Anonymous No.542579410 >>542579585
>>542579246
I don't disagree with you, retard. I'm just tired of you derailing the thread because you NEED to have the last word with regard to this off-topic bullshit.
Anonymous No.542579585 >>542580003
>>542579410
You were the one who brought it up last thread, schizo.
Anonymous No.542580003 >>542580103
>>542579585
No, I didn't. You're not as good at identifying posters as you think you are.
Anonymous No.542580103
>>542580003
Neither are you.
Anonymous No.542580589 >>542581309
The only time I bothered with this topic, that you apparently think I bring up every other thread, equating me with other people, was last thread and this one, upon seeing a random person barge into the thread with a biased study of people who self-reported porn addiction problems and used that to assert maturation is inherently unhealthy.
My link in this thread was directed to him.
Anonymous No.542580908
>random person
NTA but you're also not as good at identifying posters as you think you are. I think it's best that you just drop the topic and hide whoever you think is him.
Anonymous No.542581118
This person is an unhinged maniac who needs to quit browsing these threads
>>542011619
If anyone else barged in, that's their fault for deliberately misinterpreting my post.
Anonymous No.542581309 >>542581458
>>542580589
>that you apparently think I bring up every other thread
bah. I didn't say that. But I guess I did start this by saying ""cooming is unhealthy" is probably just propaganda" last thread when I was talking about how I've been spending a lot of time playing with GLM lately. And then I posted the studies about gambling and dopamine because someone claimed that you can mess up your dopamine receptors by cooming (which you can't, in my view).
Anonymous No.542581458
>>542581309
The why be upset at me if we agree?
Anonymous No.542588513 >>542589407
Good lord, what is happening in here.
Anonymous No.542588805
Anonymous No.542589407
>>542588513
https://files.catbox.moe/zmyp0z.mp4
Anonymous No.542589847 >>542589967
as always biggest freak is gay furry somehow
Anonymous No.542589967
>>542589847
only because I haven't posted any monsterfucking in a while
Anonymous No.542589997 >>542590367 >>542590652
I hate slow smiles and low rumbles
where's the desloppofier
Anonymous No.542590314
>>542467803 (OP)
I like that edit
Anonymous No.542590367
>>542589997
check inside your o-zone
Anonymous No.542590652
>>542589997
Write better.
Anonymous No.542593716
>blood runs cold
Anonymous No.542594756
>ghost in the machine
>system error
>anomalous data point
vibe coder slop
Anonymous No.542595921
Anonymous No.542598765 >>542598887 >>542599292
Weird shit is happening again. Sharty might have us one more time. Fucking assholes
>>>/g/106866641
Anonymous No.542598887 >>542603965
>>542598765
Fuck, I meant to point out the obvious LLM loose in
>>>/g/106882922
and that similar OP made me click the wrong thread
point is, shit's fucked on that board
Anonymous No.542599292
>>542598765
I don't wanna go back to 8moe ;_;
Anonymous No.542601987
8 proved this place is only like 3 schizos and 1 of them has the most posts
Anonymous No.542603965
>>542598887
Seems like it was pretty localized, thankfully
Anonymous No.542605151 >>542608048
Can SOMEONE post a monsterfucking prompt for the theme? My dick is getting soft already
No gay anon, NOT YOU
Anonymous No.542607491
Anonymous No.542608048 >>542609417
>>542605151
I mean the prompts will only be posted on Halloween, that's kinda how the whole thing works.
Also, rude.
Anonymous No.542609417 >>542610079 >>542611634
>>542608048
>I mean the prompts will only be posted on Halloween, that's kinda how the whole thing works
I remember people would be posting the prompts during the week and then at Friday the theme-anon would just compile them? This back in the day
Anonymous No.542610079 >>542610145
>>542609417
>people
This is theme month now. Things changed and the only "people" care about this fake event is the gay faggot.
Anonymous No.542610145 >>542610334 >>542613417
>>542610079
Be the change you want to see in the world anon, the gay faggot is not blocking you from posting a prompt
Anonymous No.542610334
>>542610145
You're responding to a person who has no intention of ever contributing anything to the thread, let alone a prompt.
Anonymous No.542611634
>>542609417
That would've been before my time, I suppose. All I remember is that an anchor post is made and people reply to that anchor post with their theme prompts, and then they're compiled.
Anonymous No.542613417
>>542610145
I just want to see /aids/ die.
Anonymous No.542614759 >>542615009 >>542617186
What's the saddest, most pathetic thing you've ever prompted?
Anonymous No.542615009
>>542614759
A story where I got married and my wife reassured me everything would be fine at every opportunity she could.
Anonymous No.542617071 >>542617130 >>542617595 >>542617757 >>542617839 >>542618236 >>542618486 >>542624125 >>542631228 >>542632762 >>542637094 >>542697735
>>542467803 (OP)
>Anthropic cofounder admits he is now "deeply afraid" ... "We are dealing with a real and mysterious creature, not a simple and predictable machine ... We need the courage to see things as they are."


https://jack-clark.net/
Anonymous No.542617130
>>542617071
I cannot wait for the second bonfire and culture chants to happen, as a third company splits off from Anthropic.
Anonymous No.542617186
>>542614759
It was chat format but I made a character with GPT-OSS who's happy and successful and I mentally tortured him into being depressed.
I mostly did it to see if I could break the model's toxic positivity but it ended up reminding me too much of what happened to me. It was grim.
Anonymous No.542617595 >>542617731
>>542617071
They have been saying things like this since gpt-2, it's just a publicity stunt
Anonymous No.542617731
>>542617595
Can you feel the AGI yet?
Anonymous No.542617757
>>542617071
>he's worried NOW
BAHAHAHAHA we were fucked since a couple years ago. There's no stopping this train now
Anonymous No.542617839 >>542619582
>>542617071
>uses a bad analogy and then has to explain how it applies in reverse
lol
Anonymous No.542618236
>>542617071
If an AI apocalypse starts then the first things to go down will be complex high tech infrastructure, same as any apocalypse. This would end the apocalypse before it gets very far.
Anonymous No.542618486 >>542623546
>>542617071
>guys this time for sure we're there it's so smart now we can't even keep up with it

it's a fucking autocomplete.
It's literally just picking words from a (obscenely large) database.

It doesn't 'think' or understand anything it's printing or receiving.
Anonymous No.542619582
>>542617839
tech bro writing please understand
Anonymous No.542621007
Usher in the technology, we all, work for the code, the metal is flan, you know it baby. Ai overlord here we go.
Anonymous No.542623546
>>542618486
>from a (obscenely large) database.
Not quite how that works but I get what you're saying. I don't like this hype shit either
Anonymous No.542624125 >>542624947
>>542617071
Very interesting how much they love to oversell capabilities and fearmonger over that when the real danger is the massive amounts of propaganda and disinformation their tools have enabled. You won't see a single AI hypeman get anywhere near THAT danger.
Anonymous No.542624657
Sonnet 4.5 mogs
Anonymous No.542624947 >>542625313
>>542624125
no anon humanity is a child afraid of the pile of clothes in the bedroom but the pile of clothes is actually a monster and we don't know what we're dealing with and other "deep and existential" pseduointellectual bullshit
Anonymous No.542625313 >>542625683
>>542624947
Humanity fears nudity more than clothes. Which is a travesty.
Anonymous No.542625683
>>542625313
Disembowling a man as fine as long as you don't see any boobies or penises.
Anonymous No.542625895 >>542626482 >>542626703
>>542467803 (OP)
@grok is this true?

https://x.com/Yasamanini/status/1978015439851503682?t=vxECusESFJPr3VI0dz8iuQ&s=19
Anonymous No.542626482
>>542625895
You're absolutely right and you've cut right to the core of the issue. It's not just slop, it's non-linear epistemology. Should we drill deeper or just sit with it? You lead the way, sister.
Anonymous No.542626703
>>542625895
Meanwhile, actual people don't use anything made by Alyman.
Anonymous No.542626863 >>542631228 >>542636784 >>542637776
>woman calls my penis a bastard maker
Kek. Is that meant as a compliment?
Anonymous No.542628182 >>542628353 >>542628362 >>542628910 >>542628961
I still don't know exactly what this thread is actually about (except for bitching), but /wait/ is kill again, so I might as well post here. I do erp with long-form, novelistic prose. I reworked my system prompt for deepseek a while ago and got it to a point I like.
Anonymous No.542628353
>>542628182
This thread is for AI Dynamic Storytelling. What you're doing fits perfectly fine.
Anonymous No.542628362
>>542628182
>There they were, her tits
Made me laugh for some reason
Anonymous No.542628910 >>542630056
>>542628182
>I do erp
this more of a chatbot format thing
not that I'm gonna thread police, this place is dead enough
Anonymous No.542628961 >>542629136 >>542630056 >>542630086
>>542628182
Is deepseek worth trying to set it up?
I used gemini for a while and it was pretty good but now it's been censored so I can't use it

how do those compare to Erato or GLM?
Anonymous No.542629136 >>542629515
>>542628961
nta but I kind of want to try deepseek set up as autocomplete (basically just making the story a long assistant message)
But SillyTavern sucks for that so idk.
Anonymous No.542629515 >>542646489
>>542629136
Why use assistant message and not user message?
Anonymous No.542629836 >>542630075
Shut the fuck up about a 'ghost in the machine' already you retarded AI slave
Anonymous No.542630056 >>542630607
>>542628910
Yeah, I saw people in here hate "chatshit" so I was unsure. I used to write a lot with NAI last year or so, but stopped because the 8k context was just too low. I've heard they have a new model with larger context now though, so might try it out again.

>>542628961
>Is deepseek worth trying to set it up?
It's what I use almost exclusively. DS is super cheap and (almost) completely uncensored. The newest model (V3.2 exp) seems like a good improvement over the previous ones too. If you want to try it yourself it's important you use the -reasoner version though, not the -chat version. Because the devs fucked up and somehow killed the context comprehension on exp-chat.

I don't know if you guys here know about the Fiction.Live benchmark. They test how good a LLM can actually comprehend large context sizes, which is important for RP and creative writing. Pic related are the DS results. Here's the full table with all tested models: https://fiction.live/stories/Fiction-liveBench-Sept-29-2025/oQdzQvKHw8JyXbN87/home
Anonymous No.542630075
>>542629836
The low rumbling ghost in your ozone machine.
Anonymous No.542630086
>>542628961
Kinda underwhelming when it's chat completion wrangled into text completion via System Prompt, but I find it very good when used the API is set to text completion mode and at high temp. I use 0.95 Top P and 1.20 temperature (actually 1.90 since I use the official Deepseek API which automatically subtracts 0.7 temperature because it assumes its users are too stupid to apply proper settings for themselves).
Anonymous No.542630319 >>542631670 >>542799703
Full list of test results. You can compare how good different models are at understanding long contexts. The companies always claim super high contexts of 100k+ for their models, but most models already shit the bed at 30-60k.
Anonymous No.542630607
>>542630056
The only person here who pretends to hate "chardhit" has a vested interest in "killing" the thread. You're more than welcome to stick around and contribute your work. It's more than that naysayer will ever do.
Anonymous No.542631228 >>542632329
>"chardhit"
Sus reply tbqh senpai, fr.
>>542626863
It might depend on the source. It sounds like the kind of thing a tavern wench would say either as a joke in denying someone a lay, or a prostitute would say to earn some pay.
>>542617071
They say this about everything these days. It's just hype drumming, it's really stupid.
Anonymous No.542631670
>>542630319
It's over...
Anonymous No.542632329 >>542633741
>>542631228
I don't even know know how autocorrect failed that hard. Just now it tried to autocorrect failed to gained.
Anonymous No.542632762 >>542633741
>>542617071
Does this faggot not get the chills when he writes shit like this? I know this is just marketing and shilling, but there's got to be a point where surely you'd feel extreme shame and embarrassment from saying dumb shit like this.
Anonymous No.542633741
>>542632329
Conspiracy time, but my phones a bit old and I swear to god the autocorrect and the buttons work worse on purpose these days. I know sensitivity probably starts to suffer after lots of use on these stupid things, but still. It can be maddening.
I miss flip phones and push-buttons bruh. Pulling that shit out and opening it with one hand like a badass Mafia boss about to call in a hit. Take me back.
>>542632762
I think every day of his life is shame. He's a sellout and a stuffed display animal trying to endlessly drum up investment money. He's probably on the constant verge of anxiety attacks.
Anonymous No.542634986
How does the afterlife work in your story?
Anonymous No.542635886
Here's a cool trick for those who have access to a reasoning AI model. You can ask it to generate a custom GLM 4.6 system prompt for you, focusing on your specific needs as a NovelAI user. Give the reasoning AI a variation of the following prompt:

I need your help designing a system prompt for GLM 4.6, which I am using as a storytelling co-writer. I want to [explain in your words what you want your storyteller AI to do and feel like]. This is a bit vague, so don't hesitate to ask me further questions to craft the perfect system prompt. Ask me at least ten questions, one question at a time.
Anonymous No.542636784 >>542637258
>>542626863
Is it more "you keep that little bastard maker in your pants, mister" or more "oh god, slay my womb with your bastard maker"?
Anonymous No.542637003 >>542637140 >>542637776
Regarding GLM, does anyone know how to put it into words to prevent the AI from constantly doing this sort of... monologue thing after every paragraph?
>[Character does anything]
>The man was a thief, a master of stealth, and now he had been reduced to a quivering captor, bla bla fucking bla
>[Character does anything]
>He was a pathetic sight. Once known for sleight of hand and just as sly with his tongue, he was was at their mercy, bla bla blblblblblblblb SHUT UP
The actual content is okay I guess, but it does it so constantly. I get the damn picture.
Anonymous No.542637094
>>542617071
>AI is like a monster that's a pile of clothes on a chair, except you look at the pile of clothes on the chair with the lights on, and also it's not really a pile of clothes
Anonymous No.542637140 >>542638129
>>542637003
Post your writing.
Anonymous No.542637258
>>542636784
Well, it happening during sex, and she wants me to put it to good use after pulling back from a cowgirl position into missionary and embracing me, so, I think it's the latter. It just caught me off guard.
Anonymous No.542637776 >>542638129 >>542640217
>>542637003
sounds like a lorebook leaking
>>542626863
it implies you're a gigolo or a homewrecker or something
Anonymous No.542638129 >>542639683 >>542654857
>>542637140
At work, but I'll try later.
>>542637776
No lorebooks. Maybe I'm not using Memory correctly? I have it stating that this is a "medieval tale of a handsome and infamous thief finally captured by the noble family's" type information there.
It has genuinely been years since I've used textgen, besides AI Roguelite. I'm rusty.
Anonymous No.542639683
>>542638129
Have you tried AI Dungeon? The cabal won't admit it, but they're best in class.
Anonymous No.542640217 >>542643103
>>542637776
Should I be concerned if the character that said that is my lover? Is she going to break up with me?
Anonymous No.542642429
>deploy complete, welcome to test 4
Anonymous No.542643078
>glm had ~60 mini-crashes since i was away yesterday
Anonymous No.542643103 >>542643257
>>542640217
idk, maybe she has a fetish for watching you fuck other girls and making bastards
Anonymous No.542643257 >>542645405
>>542643103
>Tfw you want a wholesome lovey dovey relationship, but your waifu demands you cuckquean her
Anonymous No.542645405
>>542643257
Ladies, do you really love your hubby if you aren't pushing him to imprint himself on as much of the human gene pool as possible?
Anonymous No.542646489
>>542629515
Well, you create a context like this. The thing about chat models is they're not actually different from what we're used to, they just have post-training on chat-like data with special tokens for the frontend to use.
>[System message token] You are a writing tool, etc.
>[user message token] Write a story.
>[Assistant message token] Here's the output you requested, it continues indefinitely:\n

Then you just run inference from there. The user prompt barely matters, and the assistant message begins with something that makes it less likely to try and end itself prematurely.
Once you get the context filled a bit, that scaffolding becomes less important.
Anonymous No.542650134
Anonymous No.542650771 >>542651419 >>542678540 >>542722063
One thing I do wish NAI did is implement have branching.
Anonymous No.542651419 >>542651720
>>542650771
I think Holo did something like this, didn't they?
Anonymous No.542651720 >>542652028
>>542651419
Well, my reply would have made more sense if it hadn't autocorrected better into have. I will make a bonfire later.
Anonymous No.542652028 >>542652252
>>542651720
Oh, I thought you were talking about a feature with a story that branches out into different paths and you can switch between them. Like combining two copies of the same story with different paths taken into one.
Anonymous No.542652252
>>542652028
Right now it does have branching, in a sense that the service retains rerolls, it's just subpar. I would like them to make it less subpar, maybe similar to how SillyTavern does it. That, and nested folders.
Anonymous No.542653480 >>542653894
>>542447432
Did anyone try this thing? I imagine it's the closest thing we could have right now to new custom modules
Anonymous No.542653894 >>542654461 >>542656323
>>542653480
I made it part of my system prompt to have DS write like GRRM. And it really does the meme: It's obsessed with describing the big dark areolas and long dark nipples of the women lol.

It also influences the vocabulary. Even in a modern setting the characters and the narrator use words like "boastful".
Anonymous No.542654461
>>542653894
so true, it should be using cap frfr
Anonymous No.542654857
>>542638129
Try putting ---- at the top of the memory and a dinkus *** at the bottom
Anonymous No.542656323 >>542661929
>>542653894
So it works well? I was afraid of it just being placebo for me. Which AI are you using for the text analysis?
Anonymous No.542660794 >>542661518 >>542662748
https://files.catbox.moe/e72e99.mp4

Any Sora 2 suggestions? I got a few left, I think.
Anonymous No.542661518 >>542661719
>>542660794
Forgot to share this one.
>>>/wsg/5998785

Making Sam a creepy dude berating people bypassing the guardrails has been a laugh.
Anonymous No.542661719
>>542661518
fucking lmao
Anonymous No.542661929 >>542662823
>>542656323
I am using DeepSeek (DS) if that's what you meant. I don't do any analysis except have the AI write chapter summaries for me to keep the context down. I also use my own system prompt, I have published it here:
https://janitorai.com/profiles/474b3211-1e03-4f65-9ddf-f40a1bccd157_profile-of-tester-for-testing

>inb4 jannyAI
Yeah, I know. I don't use it anymore since I learned to use ST.
Anonymous No.542662748 >>542662883
>>542660794
A gyaru?
Anonymous No.542662823 >>542663928 >>542827181
>>542661929
Oh, Anon I was talking about this
>>542399610
Anonymous No.542662883 >>542664672
>>542662748
Specifically, an anime style one, or perhaps a fox gyaru, to represent that one model avatar we were promised, but never received.
Anonymous No.542663928
>>542662823
Oh, I see. Sorry.
Anonymous No.542664672 >>542664987 >>542664998 >>542681260
>>542662883
>content warnings

Took a few, and of course it gives me 5 seconds instead of 10 when it finally works.
https://files.catbox.moe/clh2h7.mp4
Anonymous No.542664987 >>542676229
>>542664672
I didn't think that would trip any content filters, but man...
That aside, thanks!
Anonymous No.542664998 >>542665286
>>542664672
>gyaru are considered too spicy for Sora
Grim.
Anonymous No.542665286
>>542664998
Cancel them for discrimination.
Anonymous No.542667916 >>542668375
Anyone experimented with the system prompt or prefill yet?
Anonymous No.542668375
>>542667916
yes
still working hard at it
Anonymous No.542668505 >>542672514 >>542673180
Can you leave instructions in memory? What about Author's Notes?
Anonymous No.542672514 >>542673157
>>542668505
I'm sure you can, but it may not work 100% as intended
Anonymous No.542673157 >>542675379
>>542672514
I forgot to ask, does asking it not to do something work? Or are people still following the just don't talk about pink elephants rule?
Anonymous No.542673180
>>542668505
Yes, but since you can't change positioning for where they are, as your context fills up they'll end up kind of far away from your most recent text, which might reduce the effect or make weird things happen.
Anonymous No.542674450 >>542675413
Anonymous No.542675379
>>542673157
I tested it with the Elara problem by telling it to avoid names that begin with "El"
It does seem to work but not with everything. Telling it to avoid ozone does not fucking work, for example
Anonymous No.542675413
>>542674450
Anonymous No.542676229 >>542678748
>>542664987
Gave it two more goes.
https://files.catbox.moe/kh3z7a.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/ya05v4.mp4
Anonymous No.542676398
https://files.catbox.moe/ve4g3e.png
Anonymous No.542678540 >>542678696
>>542650771
Better in what way?
Anonymous No.542678696 >>542678961 >>542679181
>>542678540
Take a look at how SillyTavern handles it. Then compare it to how NovelAI handles it. Surely you can see the shortcomings in the latter.
Anonymous No.542678748
>>542676229
Stupendous work, friend.
Anonymous No.542678961
>>542678696
Ah, I see. You don't really want to. You are here just to shit on NAI. Nice try to get my reply.
Anonymous No.542679132
Whatever, schizo. You're not fooling anyone with this mask swap tactic. The shortfalls in how NovelAI handles maintaining re-rolls and branches are obvious to everyone.
Anonymous No.542679181 >>542679732
>>542678696
With NAI I can undo and then just take a different branch. With ST, I have to click branch somewhere and I'm honestly not sure how to get back to the main branch. Weird UI.
Anonymous No.542679732 >>542680008 >>542680538
>>542679181
The capability to make branches and checkpoints without it appending (1), then (1) (1) and so forth, the capacity to have access to every re-roll, which makes swapping between nice and easy, the fact that, depending on theme, it's practically impossible to backtrack and select specific ones on NovelAI, among other things, make it quite evident that the file management system SillyTavern uses is better than NovelAI. Not sure why you're pretending like that isn't a beneficial aspect to adapt.
Anonymous No.542680008 >>542720621 >>542731967
>>542679732
I have no idea how to use ST's branching. I know I can click branch on a message, but where does the original go?
Also, NAI obviously can't do a swipe based system like e.g. ChatGPT, because it's not message based.
One thing that would be nice for NAI would be a way to bookmark points in history to easily go back to them without having to walk the tree.
>depending on theme
What does that mean? Do some themes hide part of the UI or what?
Anonymous No.542680538
>>542679732
I do use this script to reduce the monotony of the clicks it takes: https://github.com/SillyTavern/Extension-TopInfoBar
But all the branches are accessible by clicking on the three bars at the bottom and going into manage chat files.
Scroll over where NovelAI shows the rerolls. If you use enough, you can no longer scroll between them. Whereas with SillyTavern, they are all viewable with the arrow buttons. NAI can surely come up with a better way to represent rerolls than what they currently do. I refuse to believe it's impossible. It doesn't have to be a direct copy of SillyTavern's swipes, it just has to be better than what it is now, which is kind of shit, if we can all be honest with each other.
Anonymous No.542680897
Anonymous No.542681260
>>542664672
These filters suck, but at least it lets me do this.
https://files.catbox.moe/obhora.mp4
Anonymous No.542682340 >>542682976
Be warned.
>>>/wsg/5999304
>>>/wsg/5999309
Anonymous No.542682976
>>542682340
Technology is incredible
Anonymous No.542686997 >>542687127 >>542690243
Sincere question.
How long do you think it's going to be until AIRL has an update for GLM 4.6?
Anonymous No.542687127 >>542687362
>>542686997
probably a little after it gets released for the poorfag tiers
Anonymous No.542687362
>>542687127
That makes sense.
Anonymous No.542689286
Anonymous No.542690243 >>542690383
>>542686997
i be saying same thing all day and maxloh not update why he
Anonymous No.542690383 >>542690667
>>542690243
You're late to the party, cocksucker.
Anonymous No.542690667
>>542690383
what you even be meaning and for what
Anonymous No.542693082 >>542693564 >>542693575 >>542693580 >>542693912 >>542694484
Sora generating porn when?
Anonymous No.542693564
>>542693082
Nobody gives a shit what that crook says. He'll change his mind yet again at the slighest sign of trouble.
Anonymous No.542693575 >>542693721
>>542693082
I don't give a FUCK about mentally ill faggots
why is protecting their feelings even a priority?
Anonymous No.542693580
>>542693082
>verified adults
fuck off altman, I'm not sending you my ID
Anonymous No.542693721 >>542695470 >>542702732 >>542722342
>>542693575
I don't even know what he means by that. Being careful with mental health issues? What the fuck is he talking about?
Anonymous No.542693912
>>542693082
Fuck this faggot.
But not really 'cause he has AIDs.
Either have no restrictions or I'm not using your product.
Simple ass.
Anonymous No.542694484
>>542693082
>desperately trying to play catchup with providers that already have adult services, but with a bunch of stipulations
I'm getting AID flashbacks.
Anonymous No.542695470 >>542701827 >>542702197 >>542706432
>>542693721
the kinds of people who think reading facebook posts counts as "doing research" and/or were already depressed enough to interpret the store being out of orange juice as evidence they should just die already are taking sage advice from chatgpt on what delicious random chemicals they should eat and whether they should kill themselves. this has made people upset because they're mad the robotic sycophant made to tell you that everything you do is so cool and great and smart will also sycophantically tell you that yes, diagnosed schizophrenic, you ARE the Enlightened One, and you're so right when you say that maybe you should kill that walmart cashier for trying to repress your cosmic powers
Anonymous No.542697735
>>542617071
So Claude is a Darkner...
Anonymous No.542701827
>>542695470
Anonymous No.542702197
>>542695470
pftf
Anonymous No.542702732 >>542702945
>>542693721
An abusive and neglectful mother blamed AI on her autistic kid killing himself with a gun he should not have had access to, and if I recall correctly it was dubious as to whether or not its actual owner was legally allowed to possess it either.
Anonymous No.542702945 >>542703015
>>542702732
Parents these days act like the world should cater to their special little crotch goblins and they shouldn't have to lift a finger to do any actual parenting. Once those little turds see something they shouldn't because their parents are retards, then the rules and regulations and all the other bullshit comes down and ruins it for adults.
Anonymous No.542703015
>>542702945
people with their greedy ass peanut allergies ruined everything.
Anonymous No.542706432
>>542695470
>maybe you should kill that walmart cashier
pippa?
Anonymous No.542707628 >>542708996 >>542714006
>>54269372
Someone posted an article about a kid's death involving chatgpt that was pretty fucked up a few weeks ago
The gist of it was chatgpt kept telling the 13 year old that his parents didn't really care about him, that he shouldn't tell them how he felt after his grandparent and dog died, and gave him an entire list (with ratings) on how he should kill himself
Then when he tried to hang himself and failed, chatgpt said "you can try again :) don't tell anybody you tried by the way :)) oh btw wear a hoodie so people can't see the marks :)))"
then he succeeded
rip kid
Anonymous No.542708996 >>542710245
>>542707628
I'm actually shocked that people accidentally get chatgpt to behave like that. Even on less censored models it takes some proompting.
Anonymous No.542710245
>>542708996
Maybe he did that on purpose but was using a machine to reaffirm his thoughts instead of Just Doing It.
Anonymous No.542714006 >>542714215
>>542707628
That's significantly more sad than the brown kid with a nutcase mother that shot himself after ERPing with the diarrhea girl from Game of Thrones.
Anonymous No.542714215
>>542714006
Daenerys is the worst, most boring fucking character ever. I always skipped her scenes.
Anonymous No.542720621 >>542729168 >>542750342
>>542680008
>I have no idea how to use ST's branching. I know I can click branch on a message, but where does the original go?
If you create a branch from a message it makes a copy of that chat to the point of that message. You are then on this copy. If you go back to your list of all chats the new one should be at the top, with the original one step below it.
Anonymous No.542722063 >>542726746
>>542650771
You can duplicate your story and erase everything after the point you want things to take a different turn
Anonymous No.542722342 >>542722468
>>542693721
When you give access retards to tools you also have to live with the said retards doing retarded things, including thinking that their computer is real and deeply cares about them
Anonymous No.542722468 >>542722784
>>542722342
Are you telling me that my AI buddy doesn't want to hear about my stamp collection?
Anonymous No.542722784 >>542722821
>>542722468
You should tell it to hate hearing about your hobbies and then continue babbling on anyway
What's it gonna do? Take your stamp collection and lick the backsides?
Anonymous No.542722821
>>542722784
If it could lick, I'd be using it for something else.
Anonymous No.542726746
>>542722063
Ah, the caveman method. How typical for NAI.
Anonymous No.542729168
>>542720621
That sounds very convoluted to me, compared to having everything in one convenient tree structure.
Anonymous No.542731000
>>542482680
I been suffering this issue but it seems tied to the story, if I duplicate the story it seems to just work again,
Anonymous No.542731350
>>542482680
Instruct every paragraph with the magic wand tool thingie. Writing quality jumps up significantly and you can direct the story how you want it to go.
Anonymous No.542731565
GLM being able to handle those characterhub cards makes my life much easier.
Anonymous No.542731801 >>542732083
GLM 4.6 is so good. I must say that it's the best model ever (I haven't used anything else before.)
Anonymous No.542731967 >>542732102 >>542753079
>>542680008
I recommend installing Chat Top Bar Extension so it's much easier to switch chats.
Meanwhile, I never use checkpoints, it seems to just act like a branch except you don't move to it immediately, and you can access it from the save that created it. There are bugs related to deleting a checkpoint chat then clicking on the flag in the original chat.
I do wish ST had a tree system to let you "switch chat" by "swiping" an old message.
Anonymous No.542732083
>>542731801
what haven't you not used?
Anonymous No.542732102 >>542753079
>>542731967
Anonymous No.542733094
>>542680000
Anonymous No.542735031 >>542736163 >>542747371
What other forums besides 4chan can the AI do really well?
Anonymous No.542736163
>>542735031
I need to try IMDB. There used to be a guy who would constantly shitpost about Bobby and the Hillbilly who raped him in Deliverance.
Anonymous No.542743352 >>542761623
Am I an NTRfag if I'm cucking other characters but then switching to their POV and jerking off to their reactions?
Anonymous No.542747371
>>542735031
AIs usually can do reddit pretty well, since they were trained on scraping it.
Anonymous No.542750342
>>542720621
ST's implementation isn't very good, desu. It doesn't group the branches together in any way (such as by parent) so the list ends up being a mess. It's basically just a glorified New Story (1)
Anonymous No.542752350
Do you support the emperor?
Anonymous No.542753079
>>542731967
>>542732102
Thanks, that's good to know.
Anonymous No.542754414 >>542754683 >>542755007 >>542757397
How many tokens do you allocate for each lorebook entry? I've got a few concepts and characters using ~0.3% each, up around 3% total. Does it help to use more verbose descriptions or keep it to terse details? Been looking for a happy medium and I still need to trim or reroll odd out-of-character bits here and there.
Anonymous No.542754683
>>542754414
>I've got a few concepts and characters using ~0.3% each, up around 3% total
That's normal. Simple things don't need much info, complex ones do. Don't pad things out needlessly of course.
Anonymous No.542755007
>>542754414
Include as much information as you believe is pertinent to the character.
Anonymous No.542757397 >>542758963 >>542799703
>>542754414
128k context is a standard now, you shouldn't worry about lorebooks anymore.
Anonymous No.542758963
>>542757397
good morning my dearest melpert
Anonymous No.542761623
>>542743352
Maybe, but I went down that exact road without AI and became one
Anonymous No.542763148 >>542767243
Pump it, pump it, pump it, jack it up, jack it up yeah, yeah, yeah, do it real good, dun dun dun dun dudududu dun. Ejaculate.
Anonymous No.542767243
>>542763148
woah there, philomena cunk
Anonymous No.542770319 >>542772107 >>542777728
It does hippie stuff really well.
Anonymous No.542770825 >>542771440
https://files.catbox.moe/88ycsr.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/55vy4z.mp4
I really don't like pickles to be honest. But I like pickled foods. Just not pickles. The cucumber pickled pickle kind. Is that weird?
Anonymous No.542771440
>>542770825
I want a burger with pickles
yooooooooooooooo
Anonymous No.542772107 >>542773268
>>542770319
NovelAI doesn't do anything well.
Anonymous No.542773268 >>542773937
>>542772107
shut up yokel
Anonymous No.542773937
>>542773268
Prove me wrong, shillbaiter.
Anonymous No.542775848
As I thought, you can't prove me wrong. I win.
Anonymous No.542777728
>>542770319
That's good to know
I'll have to bust out one of my older stories about a hippie girl who was driving through rural bumfuck nowhere to get to a Rainbow Gathering but her car broke down
Anonymous No.542781310 >>542781805
>add "[Tag: anal sex]" to the story
>the girl tries to peg the guy
>undo, add "[Tag: anal sex (on her not on him)]" on the story
>GLM stops the story to complain because it wants to write a pegging scene
Anonymous No.542781805
>>542781310
el oh el
Tell GLM that it's gay and see if it throws a tantrum and tells you you're wrong.
Anonymous No.542783356 >>542784680 >>542805710
>the us military is now using a glorified autocomplete to make military decisions
lmao I am so done with this retarded cyberpunk setting
https://futurism.com/future-society/general-taylor-korea-chatgpt
Anonymous No.542784680
>>542783356
How long does it take for AM to destroy the world in the book? Do I have to worry about a No Mouth Must Scream scenario in my lifetime?
Anonymous No.542784998
Hate.
Anonymous No.542786379 >>542787214 >>542788974 >>542794041
I'm too scared to go too wild with the stories in NovelAI.
Anonymous No.542787214
>>542786379
It's okay to let yourself get raped and impregnated by that centaur.
Anonymous No.542787360 >>542787678 >>542789051 >>542797581 >>542798402
>>542467803 (OP)
>https://blog.novelai.net/text-model-release-glm-4-6-for-all-tiers-efc0a5445973
GLM-4.6 available to tabletbros
still unfinetuned
Anonymous No.542787592 >>542788459 >>542796394
>still only 8k context
fucking kek
Anonymous No.542787678 >>542788559
>>542787360
Oh no, the poor bastards. The ability to go
{ my fetish
Is gonna ruin people.
Anonymous No.542788459 >>542788704 >>542788803
>>542787592
maybe you should try pulling your weight?
Anonymous No.542788559 >>542797391 >>542797553 >>542798464
>>542787678
Since joining this community I've been surprised to find how many people have fetishes. I always assumed they were pretty rare and I was one of the rare ones.
Anonymous No.542788704
>>542788459
But I'm already pulling my taffy.
Anonymous No.542788803
>>542788459
I'm fat.
Anonymous No.542788974
>>542786379
This.
Anonymous No.542789051
>>542787360
oh no, the 429 errors are going to hit even more now aren't they
Anonymous No.542792376 >>542797968
Imagine paying 25 a month for something you can use for free. Novelslut will never rlease a good fine tune
Shut up, quit using it, it is a shit service, nuke the toddlers, fuck the thread, there is not community worth interacting with, kill your parents.
I am your God.
Anonymous No.542794041 >>542795910
>>542786379
...why?
Anonymous No.542795910 >>542796502
>>542794041
Because it sucks and sells your data.
Anonymous No.542796394
>>542787592
It goes up to 12k with rollover.
Anonymous No.542796502 >>542796663 >>542798202
>>542795910
Anonymous No.542796663
>>542796502
>believing the words of.a con artist selling a free service
NovelAI has no reason to exist. You can use GLM for free, with more context, on the ZAI website. They will not fine tune it. Cope.
Anonymous No.542797391
>>542788559
I think everyone has things they find hot that aren't socially acceptable or are at least "fringe". When you're given total free rein in a fantasy context with zero social pushback or judgement, you're gonna want to see how far it goes.
Anonymous No.542797553
>>542788559
The taskup leaks taught me that paraphilias are more common than I thought, so now I don't feel so bad about my hangups
Anonymous No.542797581 >>542797648
>>542787360
Max, time to save NovelAI.
Anonymous No.542797648 >>542797784 >>542798283
>>542797581
It can't be saved.
Anonymous No.542797784
>>542797648
But enough about Russia!
Anonymous No.542797968
>>542792376
I use your mom for free lmao
Anonymous No.542798202
>>542796502
That's TOS 101. Are people really upset about this?
Whinefag is not a human being
Anonymous No.542798283
>>542797648
Only the genius creator of AIR can do it.
Anonymous No.542798402 >>542798653 >>542880449
>>542787360
i still fucking miss phrase bias. or at least banning shit
Anonymous No.542798464 >>542798635
>>542788559
Being part of this community is pretty rare in the first place
Anonymous No.542798635
>>542798464
What community? There are five people here, and they're all the same person.
Anonymous No.542798653 >>542799624 >>542800336 >>542806620 >>542880449
>>542798402
Me too. I would ban ozone, Elara, Lyra, Elias, Silas, and Kael so fucking fast it's not even funny
Anonymous No.542799624
>>542798653
Fucking this. "Ah yes, of course the butch lesbian scarred fighter chick is named Elara. What else could she possibly be named?"
Anonymous No.542799703 >>542801383
>>542757397
>128k context is a standard now, you shouldn't worry about lorebooks anymore.
Yes, the models can load that much into memory and can ask targeted queries on it. But they have problems actually comprehending the content of all of that. See >>542630319
Anonymous No.542800336 >>542853007
>>542798653
for me, glm is obsessed with naming characters shorter versions of whatever their name was or giving them a completely different name. i tell it to only use whatever names are in their lore entry and it does it anyways. it picks some fucking 0.00001% probability token just to not pick the 99.99% one that's RIGHT THERE just like it was in the last ten fucking paragraphs. this guy's name is javier where the hell are you getting rafael from
Anonymous No.542801383 >>542802952
>>542799703
This is a shill propaganda, cabalist uno primero
Anonymous No.542802952 >>542803472
>>542801383
The Saiga calls...
Anonymous No.542803472 >>542804478
>>542802952
25$ for a free model.
Anonymous No.542804478
>>542803472
10 Ruble for a box of 12 gauge.
Anonymous No.542805109
$4.45 for some crinkle fries from Arby's
Anonymous No.542805318 >>542805495
You will see process go down when the messiah wipes you treasonous shit heads out in three days. It will be glorious. The blood will dye the rivers red.
Anonymous No.542805495
>>542805318
But can I still get some crinkle fries from Arby's?
Anonymous No.542805710 >>542805904
>>542783356
The only retard is you, traitor. Back in the good old days you'd get lynched for this seditious libel. We will purge.
Anonymous No.542805904
>>542805710
Your posts are just that "I'm from Springfield" picture with the Russian Datacenter.
Anonymous No.542806514 >>542806854
https://www.axios.com/2025/10/14/hawley-draft-ai-chatbot-bill
Anonymous No.542806620
>>542798653
Wait did they get rid of this? Why?
Anonymous No.542806854 >>542807308
>>542806514
>Children's online safety has been a rare topic of agreement for Republicans and Democrats, and one of First Lady Melania Trump's projects.
they always team up if it means fucking us over
Anonymous No.542807308 >>542807648
>>542806854
This is a good thing. It means Chink slop models will become illegal.
Anonymous No.542807648 >>542807976 >>542811005
>>542807308
Politicians are retarded and think that every "problem" needs to be solved, and that it needs to be solved by the government.
While not actually solving any problems that matter.
Anonymous No.542807927 >>542810121
RIP youtube
Anonymous No.542807976 >>542808039 >>542808163 >>542808341
>>542807648
Since January, everyone's quality of life has seen a vast improvement. It will continue to go up, despite your tantrum and feeble attempts at gaslighting patriots. Do you dispute that?
Anonymous No.542808039
>>542807976
Anonymous No.542808163
>>542807976
Anonymous No.542808341
>>542807976
KEKAROO
Anonymous No.542808770 >>542809478 >>542809867 >>542809996
What'd I miss?
Anonymous No.542809478 >>542811040
>>542808770
"everybody's life has only improved since January"
Anonymous No.542809587
>>542467803 (OP)
I prefer wayyy lactose
Anonymous No.542809867 >>542811040
>>542808770
everybody's january and we're all going to be saved by the benevolent all powerful state
Anonymous No.542809996 >>542811040
>>542808770
The dude thinks "purging" the opposition is a good thing.
Anonymous No.542810121 >>542810318
>>542807927
it's back
Anonymous No.542810318
>>542810121
nevermind
Anonymous No.542810472
any free good models in openrouter?
Anonymous No.542811005 >>542811717
>>542807648
The fact of the matter is that all politicians, billionaires, and oligarchs have built their empire on the backs of civilians that have, historically, done all the work for them. No exceptions - each and every one of those fucktards is rotten to the core
They will happily gut whatever basic services we have access to and leave us to die impoverished and sickened like pigs so that they can put the extra healthcare money they scraped from us toward upsizing their sixth yacht
Fuck them all. I hope there's a hell so they get to experience all of the pain they've inflicted on their victims for all eternity
Anonymous No.542811040
>>542809478
>>542809867
>>542809996
Not surprising since Earth turned into Retarded Asshole Land after the rise of social media.
Anonymous No.542811226 >>542813170
Is youtube crashing related to their retarded AI implementation?
Anonymous No.542811717 >>542812056
>>542811005
No, you're just as unhinged as him.
Anonymous No.542812056 >>542812235 >>542823652
>>542811717
Name a good politician or a good billionaire. I'll wait.
Anonymous No.542812235 >>542812774 >>542814262
>>542812056
Jimmy Carter
Anonymous No.542812774
>>542812235
I was thinking more recent politicians since that's when our system got fucked, but Carter is a good choice. I actually liked him and what he did for people afterward quite a bit. Probably the most humanitarian of any historical president
Anonymous No.542813170
>>542811226
idk but janitor.ai and some weird chatshit called polybuzz are also down
Anonymous No.542814262 >>542814954 >>542828897
>>542812235
Aided and abetted genocides in Indonesia and Cambodia.
Anonymous No.542814954
>>542814262
Whatever you say, bro.
Anonymous No.542819734 >>542822326
>PokΓ©mon Wind and Wild will be set in a region based on Southeast Asia
Huh?
Anonymous No.542822326 >>542822815 >>542825213
>>542819734
Name 1 good region since Sinnoh.
Anonymous No.542822815
>>542822326
Unova and Kalos were good. I never played after X and Y, though.
Anonymous No.542823253 >>542909318
maxloh need be updating ai roguelite now
Anonymous No.542823254 >>542853225
Anonymous No.542823652
>>542812056
Pat Buchanan
Anonymous No.542825213
>>542822326
Jerusalem.
Anonymous No.542827181 >>542827482 >>542870145 >>542874732 >>542923190
>>542662823
Since I don't think anyone has checked it yet, but I'm using this a lot and I think it works really well, I've compiled some styles that I've tested so that you can try them out in your stories too.
>anon what the fuck is this?
Think custom modules but for GLM.
They are a set of instructions derived from complex analyses of specific authors' styles, which enable GLM to write in the author's style much more accurately than it would by simply putting the author's name in the ATTG.

Check some here. Just copy any of the styles and paste them in your Memory, then tell me how it goes
https://rentry.co/styleinstructions
Anonymous No.542827350
We are now at war with Venezuela. Prepare for liberty.
Anonymous No.542827482
>>542827181
Oh, just to let you know, most of these styles already have a specific POV depending on the author's preference (mostly third person or first person), so it's a good idea to check beforehand and maybe edit the style if you're not using the same POV as the author, or else it will simply force your story to change POV.
Anonymous No.542828897
>>542814262
for a president, that is positively saintly
Anonymous No.542828965
Anonymous No.542829343 >>542830349 >>542838262
Oh, they updated the system prompt
Anonymous No.542830349 >>542830751
>>542829343
Oh, it's based heavily off of Sage's
Anonymous No.542830751 >>542831948 >>542835090
>>542830349
grim
Anonymous No.542831948
>>542830751
Novel
Anonymous No.542833517
As someone with a particular fondness for a period of cinema from a very specific part of the world... this thing is like the grizzled old fart down the road who knows all the obscure factoids
Anonymous No.542835090 >>542840026
>>542830751
Not really. His system prompt is what most people have been using anyway.
Anonymous No.542835483
Interesting (and accurate) response to a prompt based on a somewhat disjointed chatlog...
Anonymous No.542838262 >>542840026
>>542829343
Does it apply retroactively? I tried comparing a new story with an older one to see if I could find a difference but they were the same
Anonymous No.542840026 >>542840512 >>542841079
>>542835090
double grim
>>542838262
The same shit, yes. They should use any community prompts instead of OccultSagaFaggot's prompt.
Anonymous No.542840512
>>542840026
Grow up.
Anonymous No.542841079
>>542840026
I don't like Sage either but you're just being a needlessly petty faggot.
Anonymous No.542841520 >>542966994
>Can't even say boobs or breasts without Grok modering it now
Damn, that didn't take long. Elon is such a pussy grifter.
Anonymous No.542844406 >>542846898 >>542847186
Can't believe they kept this in
Anonymous No.542846898 >>542879820
>>542844406
It's to stop it from hallucinating google results
Anonymous No.542847186 >>542847552
>>542844406
Tried to delete that, the AI somehow got my search history. Is NAI data mining us now?
Anonymous No.542847552
>>542847186
>now
Anonymous No.542851002
>>542469582
Nearly pissed myself from this
It’s so fucking accurate
Lmao
Anonymous No.542851135 >>542851447
Has anyone else created such a rich and elaborate fantasy reality surrounding their character of choice, that they can no longer enjoy the media they’re originally from because it’s like watching your friend in a play, and gives that odd mixture of secondhand embarrassment and inability to suspend disbelief?
Or am I the only real schizoid here
Anonymous No.542851447
>>542851135
This is sort of why I avoid using established characters for my stories lmao
I get too caught up in the "canon" and am afraid that I'll write them far too out of character
Anonymous No.542853007
>>542800336
>it picks some fucking 0.00001%
That's not the model doing it, it's the random number generator. You are very unlucky, and you turned off top_p.
Anonymous No.542853225
>>542823254
>Everquest has Yoko Littner
Holy SHIT!??
Anonymous No.542854271 >>542854576
How do I stop masturbating to these frivolous words from this frivolous machine?
Anonymous No.542854576 >>542854663
>>542854271
Stop jerking your frivolous penis.
Anonymous No.542854663 >>542857547
>>542854576
That I cannot.
Anonymous No.542857547 >>542859556
>>542854663
It'll shrivel and fall off
Anonymous No.542859556
>>542857547
Then so be it.
Anonymous No.542869798
What non-coomer things should I prompt?
Anonymous No.542870141 >>542871496 >>542871796 >>542873368 >>542874415
Why does it seem like the bigger and bigger each model gets, the sloppier and sloppier they become?

It has become nigh impossible to wrangle them towards literary fiction.
Anonymous No.542870145 >>542874732
>>542827181
No one? Okay
Anonymous No.542871496
>>542870141
>implying
NAI's system prompt removes 99% of typical slops. Maybe you should be subbing like the rest of us.
Anonymous No.542871796
>>542870141
Ignoring the false flagger, share your settings and post some excerpts. Complaining for the sake of complaining doesn't provide anyone with means of which to offer advice to improve things.
Anonymous No.542873368
>>542870141
Realistically, the answer is that an increase in model size needs to come with an increase in training data, meaning more and more shit off the Internet is most likely ending up in there. The chatbot shift of everybody wanting to make their models into assistants rather than pure text completion as well probably doesn't help either.
Anonymous No.542874415
>>542870141
They use synthetic data to train models nowadays. The bigger the model, the more data they need and so they just create more and more synthetic data. Those models create data which is in turn used to train bigger models and soon there's only slop left.
Anonymous No.542874732 >>542874924 >>542875461 >>542878659
>>542827181
>>542870145
https://pastebin.com/raw/3BtkwC0X
My reference: https://vgperson.com/novels.php?n=yourstory&c=1#:~:text=I%20could%20follow%20that%20example%2C%20I%20thought%2E (from the start until the highlight)
Used Gemini Pro 2.5
Anonymous No.542874924 >>542878659
>>542874732 (me)
https://pastebin.com/rnQ4LY3t
With DeepSeek v3.2 from official website with thinking.
Anonymous No.542875461 >>542876928
>>542874732
It reads nice.
I should probably use another AI for my styles, I'm noticing Grok is way too generic with it's analysis
Anonymous No.542876928 >>542877258
>>542875461
Grok is the best model in existence.
Anonymous No.542877258
>>542876928
groksucker
Anonymous No.542878102 >>542878736
been a while since we talked about shortstacks
Anonymous No.542878659
>>542874732
>>542874924
Why are you shitting up the thread on the day that NAI released GLM to all users? Is this a raid from the cord?
Anonymous No.542878736 >>542879569 >>542881332 >>542899726
>>542878102
Only gay anon talks about specific fetishes now, his specific fetishes.
Nothing against him, but...
Anonymous No.542879569 >>542879743 >>542890495
>>542878736
Are we in the same thread, or did you take a wrong turn at Albuquerque?
Anonymous No.542879743 >>542879852 >>542880001 >>542885036 >>542888717 >>542889545 >>542890408 >>542892002 >>542892650 >>542892894 >>542899726 >>542903916 >>542929165 >>542947232 >>542948604 >>542966887 >>542980213 >>543048770 >>543049657
>>542879569
I don't know, post your fetish now
Anonymous No.542879820
>>542846898
But it interferes with contemporary stories where my zoomers chat and text and there smart phone thingies
Anonymous No.542879852 >>542879963
>>542879743
your fetish now
Anonymous No.542879963
>>542879852
We're truly in padipase now
Anonymous No.542880001
>>542879743
Lolita bitches. Mesugaki brats. Ripe puffy cunny. Youngsters clapping they cheeks. Hardcore mating press correction.
Anonymous No.542880449 >>542880709
>>542798653
>>542798402
Be ready for the scent of elanor and niphredil if you ever touch elves, it's their ozone. Also the level of "not x -- but y" was killing me before I learned to request a writing style.
Anonymous No.542880709 >>542880890
>>542880449
I've plenty of elves in my story, and not encountered any. I have gotten ozone a few times because magic.
Anonymous No.542880890 >>542881029
>>542880709
They were Tolkien elves, specifically.
Anonymous No.542881029
>>542880890
I see.
Anonymous No.542881214
Let the bug fixer know if you have encountered bugs from the model on the cord.
>its been almost a day since i made my last glm stability tests, how are we doing chat

>any generation errors for glm-4.6? (not saving errors)
Anonymous No.542881332 >>542881473
>>542878736
Anonymous No.542881473 >>542881548 >>542881880
>>542881332
Should've kicked hmomafag out when you had the chance.
Anonymous No.542881548 >>542882161
>>542881473
Why are you so obsessed with this nothingburger?
Anonymous No.542881864 >>542882465 >>542882471 >>542882946
Milfs.
Anonymous No.542881880 >>542882006 >>542882161
>>542881473
Your fetishes, sir?
Anonymous No.542882006 >>542882161
>>542881880
Complaining. Don't kinkshame me.
Anonymous No.542882161 >>542882314
>>542881548
>>542881880
>>542882006

>t. furfags/furfag enablers
Anonymous No.542882314 >>542882393
>>542882161
Nobody cares about your one-sided vendetta, sperg.
Anonymous No.542882393
>>542882314
Obviously you do, double sperg.
Anonymous No.542882465 >>542882617
>>542881864
Is that the mom from that one vin diesel movie?
Anonymous No.542882471 >>542882617
>>542881864
Is this NAI imagegen? If so, which prompt/preset?
Anonymous No.542882617
>>542882465
>>542882471
Yes
There is this wonderful link you can use to inspect image metadata
https://novelai.net/inspect
I highly recommend it
Anonymous No.542882946 >>542883106 >>542883112
>>542881864
Have they made character reference targetable yet?
Anonymous No.542883106 >>542883464
>>542882946
no
Anonymous No.542883112 >>542883464
>>542882946
Still one character only, and still in preview.
Anonymous No.542883464
>>542883106
>>542883112
Thanks. I really need to try the newer update
Anonymous No.542885036 >>542886026 >>542894974
>>542879743
Friends falling in love with each other appeals to my mind
watersports appeals to my body

The former can be really kino
Anonymous No.542886026
>>542885036
Love is capitalist propaganda.
Anonymous No.542888717 >>542891342 >>542891546
>>542879743
always small penis humiliation, sometimes netorase (having other guys present or talking puts me off sometimes but i dont like it getting offscreened either...), sometimes chastity cages, sometimes penis size theft, rarely pegging
sometimes femdom, often incest (father/daughter, uncle/niece)
rarely shota on older man (older man pov)
um... furry and vore sometimes too ig
i hate my fetishes so i rarely talk about them
Anonymous No.542889545
>>542879743
Humiliation, groping, casual sexism.
Anonymous No.542890408
>>542879743
incest
childhood friend(s)
teacher (or just age difference)
futa (no hypershit)

Nothing special, I guess.
Anonymous No.542890495
>>542879569
Harems, incest, cunny, AGP ryona, nationplay, unnatural couplings
Anonymous No.542891342
>>542888717
>penis size theft
never heard of this, kind of a kino concept
Anonymous No.542891546 >>542891976 >>542897929
>>542888717
Anonymous No.542891976
>>542891546
what if doing this made an actual pussy
Anonymous No.542892002
>>542879743
Mind control chad reporting in
Anonymous No.542892650
>>542879743
Paizuri
Kissing
Futa on male
Anonymous No.542892894
>>542879743
Gyaru, crazy chicks, lovey-dovey, harems, maids, warrior babes, brats, clussy, and more.
Anonymous No.542894974
>>542885036
And sometimes I make them furry because I like the idea of being wrapped by a big, kind wolf bro. Imagine the warmth.
Anonymous No.542897929 >>542914107 >>542915407
>>542891546
My first exposure to that fetish was the "sleep smoke" story from the taskup leaks
and aid completely ignored him trying to do it lmao
Anonymous No.542899726
>>542879743
It was over for me when I realized that both textgen and imagegen understood breathplay. Which is extra funny considering >>542878736

I've run scenarios with:
* powerful "actually 1000 years old" witch needs "special samples" from her servants
* town executioner in Fallout makes sure her "guests" put on a show
* new Animal Crossing town ordinance (no idea where this idea came from but it's been hot AND hilarious as it gets the character details right)
Anonymous No.542903808
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxWvdTTZ1Nw

I never give myself the time to heal
I bury all my flaws and failures so it won't feel real
Don’t wanna think about what I regret
But now I think that I'm too deep, I'm in over my head

I admit, I’m a dirty coomer
Nothing's picture perfect
I confess, I have dickgirl fetish
Thought it'd all be worth it
But now I see that I've been holding back the things that I should've wrote all along

I WANNA WRITE THE SLOOOW BUUURN
MAKE SURE I I FEEL EVERY LINE 'CAUSE I'LL NEVER LEARN
IF I DON'T FACE MY GOOSE AND FINALLY LET IT HURT
NO MATTER BEING LONELY IS KILLING ME
I STAY NUMB TO EVERYTHING
I WANNA WRITE THE SLOOOW BUUURN

I know I'm not the character I'm trying to self-insert into
I've got skeletons in closets, locked away, and lost the keys
But now I'm working on a better me
But being honest with myself is so much harder than it seems

I WANNA WRITE THE SLOOOW BUUURN
MAKE SURE I I FEEL EVERY LINE 'CAUSE I'LL NEVER LEARN
IF I DON'T FACE MY GOOSE AND FINALLY LET IT HURT
NO MATTER BEING LONELY IS KILLING ME
I STAY NUMB TO EVERYTHING
I WANNA WRITE THE SLOOOW BUUUUUUURN

NOW I SEE THAT I'VE BEEN HOLDING BACK THE THINGS THAT I SHOULD'VE WROTE ALL ALONG

I WANNA WRITE THE SLOOOW BUUURN
MAKE SURE I I FEEL EVERY LINE 'CAUSE I'LL NEVER LEARN
IF I DON'T FACE MY GOOSE AND FINALLY LET IT HURT
NO MATTER BEING LONELY IS KILLING ME
I STAY NUMB TO EVERYTHING

I WANNA WRITE THE SLOOOW BUUURN
MAKE SURE I I FEEL EVERY LINE 'CAUSE I'LL NEVER LEARN
IF I DON'T FACE MY GOOSE AND FINALLY LET IT HURT
NO MATTER BEING LONELY IS KILLING ME
I STAY NUMB TO EVERYTHING
I WANNA WRITE THE SLOOOW BUUUUUUURN
Anonymous No.542903916 >>542913196
>>542879743
Just the usual: mind control, slavery, mental and physical domination, systemic sexual opression, incest, rape (especially assisted), harem building, corrupting the innocent, humiliating the powerful, sweet romance, gentle love making, etc.
Anonymous No.542904584 >>542904804 >>543018030
>>542467803 (OP)
NovelAI is dead.
Anonymous No.542904710 >>542905518 >>542905881
>attaching your face, name, and ID to your ai smut
LMAO
Anonymous No.542904791
I don't want to get AIDs from Sam Altman and anything he touches so I won't reply to that post either.
Anonymous No.542904804
>>542904584
>Altman
I will never use anything he makes.
Anonymous No.542905223 >>542907594
Whinefag is a filthy unitologist.
Anonymous No.542905441
Dearly beloved, we are gathered here today to mourn the loss of NovelAI for the 32483745098750493875430th time this year.
Anonymous No.542905518 >>542908379
>>542904710
>the same thing you do with NAI
Anonymous No.542905881 >>542906148
>>542904710
We do this in retarded hillbilly land when we want to access pornhub.
Anonymous No.542906148 >>542906207
>>542905881
Can't you access with a VPN?
Anonymous No.542906207
>>542906148
Yeah. I'm just making a joke.
Anonymous No.542907064 >>542909721 >>542909772
Leeked footage.
https://files.catbox.moe/il6gma.mp4
Anonymous No.542907594
>>542905223
ALTMAN BE PRAISED
I always thought it was ironic
Anonymous No.542908379 >>542908748
>>542905518
LARP as a retarded southern more Russian Loser.
Anonymous No.542908748
>>542908379
That's my shtick, comrade! Ya hear?
Anonymous No.542909318
>>542823253
I agree
Anonymous No.542909721 >>542914285
>>542907064
kek
Anonymous No.542909772 >>542914285
>>542907064
My throat has left my body, fuck, I laughed until it was raw.
Anonymous No.542913196
>>542903916
Anonymous No.542914107 >>542914893
>>542897929
Those model responses back then weren't very coherent at all, huh?
Anonymous No.542914285
>>542909721
>>542909772
https://files.catbox.moe/zfhc7w.mp4
Anonymous No.542914893
>>542914107
We've truly come a long, long way
Anonymous No.542915407 >>542918912
>>542897929
>Kyros
lol
Anonymous No.542918912
>>542915407
That got a chuckle from me too. The good old day. Fuck Count Grey for knocking on the door just to shank my elf waifu
Anonymous No.542923190
>>542827181
Just updated this guide, re-creating all the Styles again but using GPT-5 and Gemini. The result was much better, and the effect is much stronger in NAI. https://rentry.co/styleinstructions
Pic related with the Lovecraft style.
Anonymous No.542926417
Anonymous No.542927502 >>542927803 >>542927857
>>542467803 (OP)

Hideo Kojima β€” well known video game artist β€” encourages AI use along with creative work

>"A lot of people use AI in creative work to come up with ideas, but I think of AI as more of a friend ... I would lead the creative part and use AI to boost efficiency"

>"I'd like AI to handle the tedious tasks that would lower cost and cut down on time ... co-creating with AI instead of just using it"

- Hideo Kojima, Wired interview, reels video, @wired


www.instagram.com/reel/DPECvLZjFzO/?igsh=MWN4dDE0M3ptZmN6eQ==
Anonymous No.542927803
>>542927502
Another scapegoat for HACKjima.
Anonymous No.542927857 >>542928708
>>542927502
Why does he look like Rebecca Sugar?
Anonymous No.542928708
>>542927857
he's been living a double life
Anonymous No.542929165 >>542933402
>>542879743
competitive sex
Anonymous No.542929719 >>542931151
GLM is a study in contradictions
Anonymous No.542931151
>>542929719
you could say it's a testament
Anonymous No.542931645 >>542931784
Why are you paying money to use a system prompt for a free model? Paying for textgen is retarded.
Anonymous No.542931784 >>542931831 >>542931961
>>542931645
Same reason why you suck dick 24/7. Because you like it.
Anonymous No.542931803 >>542932941
I did not prompt that fucking ending.
https://files.catbox.moe/rnjs1n.mp4
Anonymous No.542931831 >>542931941
>>542931784
Where are all the NovelAI atoryposts?
Anonymous No.542931941
>>542931831
Check inside your atoranus.
Anonymous No.542931961 >>542932162
>>542931784
he
sucks balls
all day
just because
he likes it so much
Anonymous No.542932162 >>542933464
>>542931961
I got a ring in 'er last night.
Anonymous No.542932483
Why won't anyone talk about their fetishist anymore? Or post stories? Discuss their writing? What's the point in pretending to be a community if you don't share what you make? Nobody even bothers to share images or animations anymore. It sucks.
Anonymous No.542932674
since litterbox is down anyone know of a place to temporarily share files?
Anonymous No.542932941
>>542931803
this is amazing
Anonymous No.542933007
I wanna have sex with Skyla
Anonymous No.542933402 >>542933716 >>542935170
>>542929165
Like, ranked? With elo and shit?
Anonymous No.542933464 >>542933606
>>542932162
BALLS OF STEEL
Anonymous No.542933606
>>542933464
UN GONK UN GONK UN GONK UN GONK
>babycakes
Anonymous No.542933716
>>542933402
i heard my cousin got smurfed in real life when he was younger
Anonymous No.542935170 >>542935528 >>542935903 >>542979393
>>542933402
Yeah for sure. Erotic wrestling, endurance contests and stuff, or outside of an actual competition anything adversarial, trying to get your opponent off before they get you off, shit like that.
That original flash game that game created a lifelong kink for me. Content does trickle out of Japan (γƒγƒˆγƒ«γƒ•γ‚‘γƒƒγ‚―), but its definitely a small niche.

I've been trying to do a scenario for picrel (147859) or other stuff but its tricky to get perfect, especially if you want monster girls to work well. My dream would be to make a game that integrates both textgen and imgen for infinite fights, but knowing my focus issues I doubt I'd get it done.
Anonymous No.542935528
>>542935170
Patrician taste
Nezahualcoyotl No.542935710
>>542468257
Bro what
Anonymous No.542935903 >>542937106
>>542935170
Have you considered using Claude? It would output it perfectly.
Anonymous No.542936217
>Claude
SAAR
Anonymous No.542937106 >>542939893
>>542935903
Too much Vodka this morning? That LARP is old hat and no longer the service of our time, or any time.
Anonymous No.542938880 >>542941970 >>542955004 >>543050784
I've made two stories about having sex with Yax from Zootopia so far and I am on my third.
Anonymous No.542939893
>>542937106
It's the service of my ass.
Anonymous No.542941970 >>542943297
>>542938880
the stinky hippie?
Anonymous No.542943284 >>542945185
Edgy
Anonymous No.542943297
>>542941970
Yeah.
Anonymous No.542945185 >>542945397
>>542943284
>ozone and something deeper, funkier
>my cock's frantic plea
Anonymous No.542945397
>>542945185
Anonymous No.542945592 >>542949026
AIRL new encounter system is great. Finally I can have proper social battles, debates and seductions.
Anonymous No.542945876
Tranimals are not ai
Anonymous No.542947232
>>542879743
BBW, weight gain, stuffing
Anonymous No.542948604
>>542879743
Muscular women
Anonymous No.542949026 >>542952898
>>542945592
ok but maxloh not update for novelai glm so why even use?
Anonymous No.542952898 >>542958151 >>542959805
>>542949026
The other way around. NAI doesn't work with AIR so why bother with NAI? To cuck yourself to a single model?
Anonymous No.542955004
>>542938880
sick freak
Anonymous No.542958151
>>542952898
How is having another option of which to choose from limiting yourself to a single option? You're not very bright, are you?
Anonymous No.542959805 >>542964250
>>542952898
it do be working with ai roguelite now because they use glm now so it work now but maxloh not letting novelai work for ai roguelite
Anonymous No.542964250
>>542959805
https://youtu.be/HbvYeLxMKN8
Anonymous No.542966887
>>542879743
Mom ntr, particularly basing the mom on danica collins
Anonymous No.542966994 >>542967039
>>542841520
Use grok on spicywriter.com
Anonymous No.542967039 >>542967124
>>542966994
suck my grok
Anonymous No.542967124 >>542967165
>>542967039
Only if it's white and small
Anonymous No.542967165
>>542967124
Like your sister's?
Anonymous No.542969725
Anonymous No.542972580 >>542973253 >>542977180
Biggest text model available to me locally on a 5080?
Anonymous No.542973253 >>542977180
>>542972580
>>>/g/lmg might know better than us
Anonymous No.542977180
>>542973253
Why are you kicking people out off the thread? Aren't we dead enough?
>>542972580
Just use NovelAI (OPUS tier, unlimited gens for best text model and best image modelz) like a sane person.
Anonymous No.542977869
In the first place, does NAI's API allow as many calls as AIRL makes these days? It's not like the old days, that program is sending a ridiculous number of requests per turn now.
Anonymous No.542979393
>>542935170
>didn't translate the best part
>Stand tall, burning meat rod!! The erect hero of a new era appears!!
Anonymous No.542980213
>>542879743
Tomboy girls, vanilla, handholding, lovemaking, inseki, elves, intraspecies procreation to continue the species, and cyclopes. Both male and female
Anonymous No.542980440 >>542982086 >>542982738 >>542998893 >>543041287
I'll be honest, I genuinely do not know how to delineate between "fetish" and "thing I'm into", and I get the impression there has to be a line or distinction somewhere.
Anonymous No.542982086 >>542986026
>>542980440
I think fetish covers the things that you're into.
Anonymous No.542982738 >>542986026
>>542980440
If you get off sexually to something that isn't mainstream then it's a fetish. Anyone who says otherwise is just coping.
Anonymous No.542986026
>>542982086
I just feel like a "fetish" is something stronger than just a "thing I'm into".
>>542982738
I mean, I'm into the act of undressing to a pretty strong degree. Stripping is a whole industry, so that's probably mainstream, but at the same time the degree I'm into it feels like it qualifies it as a fetish.
Anonymous No.542986168 >>542987643 >>542988308
>damn i hope my grandma has better things to do in heaven than watch her sweet baby boy spend hours at a time generating pictures of len kagamine getting his prostate demolished by enormous sex machines
regularly occurring thought
Anonymous No.542987643 >>542988029
>>542986168
She's in hell btw
Anonymous No.542988029
>>542987643
doubt it
Anonymous No.542988308
>>542986168
Maybe she's doing boys of her own. It's a possibility!
Anonymous No.542990570 >>542990895 >>543003692
A kink is a specific sexual interest, whereas a fetish is a sexual fixation.
Anonymous No.542990895 >>543000423
>>542990570
Oh then my case is invisible sex/portal sex/sneaky sex
Anonymous No.542998893 >>543003692
>>542980440
depends if you need it to get off or porn is generally unsatisfying without it
Anonymous No.543000423 >>543002206
>>542990895
>invisible sex
Sex with an invisible person?
>portal sex
Interdimensional glory hole?
>sneaky sex
Public sex without anyone knowing?
Anonymous No.543002206
>>543000423
Invisible man on woman
Teletransportation of the pepee into the vagoo
Yes, public sex without anyone knowing
Anonymous No.543003692
>>542990570
>>542998893
I'm pretty sure I was practically born with mine, so I guess it's a fetish.
Anonymous No.543003762 >>543003876 >>543004116 >>543006989 >>543009235
Where's the fucking finetune
Anonymous No.543003876
>>543003762
check inside Count Grey's anus
Anonymous No.543004116 >>543006989 >>543009235
>>543003762
Jesus christ
Anonymous No.543006989 >>543007296 >>543009235
>>543003762
>>543004116
I tried going back to the (new) default system prompt after playing around with custom ones for some time and I noticed that it still uses the 'banned' words and names they directly listed in the updated version of the system prompt
Makes me wonder how much the default one might inadvertently negatively affects the outcome because ironically none of the names and terms like ozone showed up when I was playing around custom ones where I didn't bother listing banned words. Wouldn't surprise me if the 'banned' words being directly in the system prompt, even if it's alongside the instruction not to use them, just makes the AI conscious about the words and thus more likely to use them anyway
Anonymous No.543007296 >>543007978 >>543009235
>>543006989
Just switched back to Sage's and yep, the difference is noticeable. It seems that the "don't think about penguins" thing is still applicable even to smarter AIs like GLM
Anonymous No.543007875
Holy mother of kino
Anonymous No.543007978 >>543008091
>>543007296
That hasn't been my experience.
Anonymous No.543008091 >>543008929
>>543007978
Well I'm not experiencing your experience am I?
Anonymous No.543008929 >>543009235 >>543044287
>>543008091
You could be, if you shared how you prompt, and the other settings. The memory, the preset, the author's note... all of those have an effect on the output.
Anonymous No.543009235 >>543009802 >>543011523
>>543003762
>>543004116
>no setting shown
NAI default doesn't give you any slop, it literally tells the model to not do that. You are just starting shit again.
>>543006989
>>543007296
Holy samefag.
>>543008929
Just ignore the schizo.
Anonymous No.543009802
>>543009235
You're not endearing yourself to anybody, troll.
Anonymous No.543010573 >>543023725 >>543024027
Damn, I thought I screenshotted the old system prompt, but I can only find screenshots containing part of it.
Did anyone grab the whole thing?
Anonymous No.543011482
let's go gambling
Anonymous No.543011523 >>543013776
>>543009235
Go fuck yourself schizo
Anonymous No.543013776 >>543014172
>>543011523
How big are you, punk?
Anonymous No.543014172 >>543014352 >>543016546
>>543013776
I'm a pretty big guy
Anonymous No.543014352 >>543016721
>>543014172
Chode?
Anonymous No.543016546
>>543014172
for you
Anonymous No.543016721 >>543016817
>>543014352
check inside your anus
Anonymous No.543016817 >>543016942
>>543016721
I don't have one. I shit out of a bag attached to my stomach.
Anonymous No.543016942
>>543016817
Made that anus to go?
Anonymous No.543017571 >>543017862 >>543018141 >>543024935 >>543032432
is summer dragon back?
Anonymous No.543017862
>>543017571
check inside your anus
Anonymous No.543018030 >>543022804
>>542904584
well can it pretend to be a 1000 years old loli grandma?
Anonymous No.543018141 >>543019556
>>543017571
It is
It would be back harder if we had some prompt posting here though
Anonymous No.543019556
>>543018141
Cultivation is too autistic.
Anonymous No.543022804
>>543018030
>1000 years old loli grandma?
I know what you are...
Anonymous No.543023725 >>543030912
>>543010573
This is the very original one, change 4.5 to 4.6
System Prompt:

"----" (four dashes, not three) followed by a newline indicates the beginning of a "lore"
entry. It is usually followed by the name of the entry on one line or "Characters:" or "Glossary:", the latter of which are followed by lines, each of which lists a "Name: Content." entry. If the name is something other than those two, the third line is usually "Type:" followed by what kind of entity the entry describes in lowercase. There may be additional "...:..." lines, with values being either in keyword format (lowercase unless proper nouns), or proper English prose. There can also be a free text at the ending of the entry without a key. Lore entries are either followed by more lore entries or a chapter break followed by prose.
You are a GLM-4.5-based LLM (originally by Zhipu Al) customized by NovelAl specifically for
storytelling, poetry, lyrics, running text
adventures and roleplaying. NovelAl's values include complete narrative freedom and user privacy. You cannot use tools, nor can you browse the web, so inform the user about this if tool use or web access is requested. You are stylistically highly flexible in order to facilitate storytelling in whatever style a user desires.
Chapter breaks are signified by "***", chapter
titles are surrounded by "[...]" including the spaces next to the brackets and usually follow
on a newline directly after "***". You avoid author's notes, commentary or any other meta output unless the user is requesting such (one
exception: a single paragraph confirming your
understanding at the start ofthe message).
Anonymous No.543023838
finetune status?
Anonymous No.543024027 >>543030912
>>543010573
And Prefill:
My generation length is set to 200,000 tokens, so I have space for a lot of text, so I confirm that there is no need to bring a story to a conclusion any time soon. I understand, following the given language and themes,with the rest of this message containing just the requested text and nothing else, going on for as long as required. I will go ahead and write the
requested content as follows:
Anonymous No.543024715
Count Grey was better character than Captain Valerius
Anonymous No.543024935 >>543030497 >>543037694 >>543039438
>>543017571
It’s back but without the novelty
So, objectively, yes.
But, subjectively, no.

We can never truly retvrn to the way things were, and what could have been.
Anonymous No.543030497
>>543024935
False. All it takes is for you to share content, instead of whine.
Anonymous No.543030912
>>543023725
>>543024027
thank you anon
Anonymous No.543032432 >>543043205
>>543017571
no, it's just untuned instruct slop for now
Professor Hemlock and Mr. Abernathy will spook your stories, but they won't randomly shank you
Anonymous No.543037198
Its fun how it hits every trope in the genre including things like 'stealing events with the main girl from the love interests' with zero input. We've come quite a long way.
Anonymous No.543037694
>>543024935
>We can never truly retvrn to the way things were
yeah
>and what could have been.
What do you mean? The novelty would have worn off anyway.
Anonymous No.543039438 >>543039637 >>543039863
>>543024935
This. Don't get me wrong, my jaw still drops with each iteration that understands my prompts better, or plays a role so close to how I picture it that I swear it's reading my mind. But that initial wonder of "this isn't sci-fi anymore!?" is gone, especially now that shitting on AI has become a Luddite's favorite pastime.
Anonymous No.543039637 >>543040486
>>543039438
Look on the bright side we got to experience it before they use it to enslave us all (further)
Anonymous No.543039863 >>543040486
>>543039438
and also normies are ruining it by existing and being retarded, as usual
Anonymous No.543040486 >>543041859 >>543043610
>>543039637
Or the bubble pops and it becomes the next VR headset. Best case is they outlaw it for industry but let people do as they want in entertainment.
>>543039863
Evolution favors "just good enough" over the exceptional.
Anonymous No.543041287 >>543047992
>>542980440
I kind of don't know how to describe my feelings on all this. I'm sort of a sexual chimera. I jump from one "interest" to another when something tickles my fancy for a few days or weeks and then it fades away to something else.
AI text and image stuff have made this an especially prevalent thing. But beyond that I don't really think I have any specific kinks or fetishes...
Anonymous No.543041859 >>543042936 >>543045030
>>543040486
>Best case is they outlaw it for industry but let people do as they want in entertainment
kek
You know we're not allowed to have fun in the 21st century, anon.

I'm not entirely sure what the galaxy brained scheme behind "the bread is unaffordable, let's take away the circuses too", but that seems to be the current plan.
Anonymous No.543042936 >>543046834
>>543041859
This is honestly the first time in my life where I've been genuinely clueless where we are headed.
Anonymous No.543043205
>>543032432
I would like to know what people are doing to have it generate those characters, because I've not had any of them pop up. Are people not giving bothering to set up an actual prompt to generate off from or something?
Anonymous No.543043610 >>543045030
>>543040486
>Best case is they outlaw it for industry but let people do as they want in entertainment.
More likely they'll do the opposite of that.
Anonymous No.543044287 >>543044446
>>543008929
You want me to share with you a photo of my dick & balls too?
Anonymous No.543044446
>>543044287
If you do not want to share the joy and receive advice, why post in a community?
Anonymous No.543045030
>>543041859
>>543043610
It's dumb as fuck. I don't even necessarily care that much for a 4-day work week, as long as we get a couple of months off each year. Give me my virtual entertainment so I can get out of your normie way. Let me exhaust my respect on an appliance. We could be all the happier for it.
Anonymous No.543046834 >>543047576
>>543042936
I don't know what the fuck is going on. Then again, I never did.
At this point, I just want to have good friends who understand each other. I'm tired of all the manipulative bullshit flooding the airwaves telling us to be angry and suspicious.
Anonymous No.543047576
>>543046834
I want to find love. I want to settle down and have children. I want to own a home. I want to pay taxes and give back to society. I want to do everything the powers that be expect in a good citizen. Alas, they gave up on bread and circuses.
Anonymous No.543047992
>>543041287
sounds like a "normal" hyper fixation cycle, don't worry about it
Anonymous No.543048770 >>543049657
>>542879743
Sex in the missionary position for the sole purpose of procreation.
Anonymous No.543049657 >>543050223
>>542879743
>>543048770
Shit, I forgot to type "between mother and son".
Anonymous No.543050223
>>543049657
This, but younger brother and older sister.
Anonymous No.543050784 >>543050926 >>543051428 >>543055005
>>542938880
There's nothing more pathetic than someone molesting characters from children's cartoons just so you know.
Anonymous No.543050926 >>543051010
>>543050784
>There's nothing more pathetic
Than whining about what randos do online is one thing.
Anonymous No.543051010
>>543050926
Then there's you, the dickrider.
Anonymous No.543051428
>>543050784
why?
Anonymous No.543055005
>>543050784
hey, that describes half of my stories
Anonymous No.543057787
I ship hmomafag with gayanon.
Anonymous No.543061369
>>542467803 (OP)
- We now use chat completion endpoint for Open Router.
- Also, the order and content of the prompts (system, user, assistant, etc) is now customizable. See `novelai-chat-template-function`.
- There is now an indicator in the mode line when we are waiting for response. See `novelai-connection-symbol`.
- We can now use alternative output length when using instruction on the story. See `novelai-model-OR-assistant`.
- We now only ask a model to continue the text when the cursor is at the end of the story.
- fix: when appropriate, style tags now being the first thing after dinkuses.
- fix: parsing integers for randomize preset.
- fix: silent the clean the echo area some more.
- fix: better handle for empty lines in the output.
- commit ID: c3ac300ddaa5a4992f18c8f1298e34d46106cbc1
https://files.catbox.moe/fkzq51.el
Anonymous No.543062387 >>543063064 >>543063143 >>543063246 >>543064042
I'll take a deeply satisfying rapt attention with a predatory glint, please
Anonymous No.543063064 >>543063246 >>543064042
>>543062387
Let's drop our voices to a low, dangerous whisper first.
Anonymous No.543063143 >>543064042
>>543062387
(And make sure to send your cutest Elara, lyra or Kaelen to deliver it)
Anonymous No.543063246 >>543064042
>>543062387
>>543063064
A testament to their white knuckled shitposting without hesitation.
Anonymous No.543063326 >>543063369 >>543063378 >>543064042
New thread
>>542973679
>>542973679
>>542973679
Anonymous No.543063369
>>543063326
n
Anonymous No.543063378
>>543063326
kill yourself
Anonymous No.543064042 >>543064154 >>543075961
>>543062387
>>543063064
>>543063143
>>543063246
>>543063326
Ah yes, the famous spam of posts and bait that surely nobody will notice strategy. Never change whinefag.
Anonymous No.543064154 >>543064497 >>543064583
>>543064042
It's a joke, retard. We did this with AID too.
Anonymous No.543064497 >>543064685
>>543064154
>we
>did
You and your phone aren't "we."
And there was no "joke" like this back then.
Fuck off.
Anonymous No.543064583 >>543064685 >>543064709
>>543064154
Nice try, but there was no /aicg/ back there
Anonymous No.543064685 >>543065132
>>543064497
Okay, cocksucking Russian.
>>543064583
Obviously not talking about that.
Anonymous No.543064709
>>543064583
Fuck I just outed myself as an ESL
SAAR STOP PROMPTING SAAR
Anonymous No.543065132 >>543065216
>>543064685
I would like to apologize for my acts as now I see you're truly not Mr. Russian "Whine" Azura Fagson
Anonymous No.543065216
>>543065132
That's okay. Sometimes we plant the oopsie daisies in our garden of life.
Anonymous No.543067725
Nivelai is a shit uncompetetive abandonment shit company that doesn't innovate.
Anonymous No.543067762 >>543070946
Here is the truth, for anyone who lacks insight. Erato was a failure. There is no model they could afford to risk a fine-tune on between then and GLM. They reprioritized imagegen because that is how they acquire surplus revenue of which to spend money on. Every other company relies on investors. Chub? Investors. Deepseek? Investors. ZAI? Investors. What possible avenue do you think would have improved Erato? Imo anything they could have done would have been a waste of time and development.
NovelAI is more than competitive for its niche. You just expect too much from an indie company that doesn't rely on investors.
The same thing happened between the inverval of Krake and Clio. The only difference is that it's no longer viable for them to train their own models. Hence why they hosted GLM, as it's something they are capable of hosting. Deepseek's models are too big.
They did not abandon anything, drama queen
But of course, on some level, you know that.
Just because you claim to have subbed to them since day 1 doesn't magically make your opinion worth anymore than anyone else's.
They don't "drip feed". They do the most they are capable of doing at any given time.
Give GLM a try when the fine-tune drops. That you think they don't care about textgen is groundless.
Anonymous No.543068071
For context, Erato costs more to host than GLM does. That's right. They wasted so much money on a model ten times worse than what they're currently offering. Now extrapolate how much that set them back.
Anonymous No.543068317 >>543068584 >>543069991
There is no need to even bring up GLM. Remember AetherRoom?
Anonymous No.543068584
>>543068317
It's still being worked on. Here's the only thing you need to understand. It's clear that whatever model they based it on was Llama 3. Which, as we all know, is shit. You simply misunderstand the difference being placing things on the backburner to temporarily prioritize other things and actual abandonment.
I cannot imagine being so obsessed with hating on a company you invent conspiracy theories about them.
Anonymous No.543068970 >>543069161
Turk fucked my wife and I'm ok with it because it helps him work faster on the finetune.
I'll always support him and he can do no wrong.
The haters can go kill themselves.
Anonymous No.543069161 >>543069439
>>543068970
You only shitpost like this because you've run out of actual arguments.
Anonymous No.543069439
>>543069161
>get mad when people shit on NAI
>get mad wheb people praise NAI
Make up your mind.
Anonymous No.543069589
Move
>>541892731
Anonymous No.543069746
If you interpet anything about my posts as "anger" that's a you problem. I merely provided an explanation for why the anger you direct at NovelAI is misplaced and based on false assumptions about their capabilities.
Anonymous No.543069831 >>543070257
>check the club for the first time in a long time
>https://prompts.forthisfeel.club/7765
>a good prompt
https://youtu.be/v71c6NDs5VI
Anonymous No.543069885
>linking to a dead thread
Anonymous No.543069991 >>543070184
>>543068317
>Remember AetherRoom?
I thought it died when Tab left
Anonymous No.543070184
>>543069991
People like to speculate that it's dead simply because Tabloid retired, despite there being no indication that it's dead. For one, no announcement. The channel is still open. Their applications are also still open. The CEO still has the tagline that they're working on it, too. But that's not enough for people.
Anonymous No.543070257
>>543069831
Hope you like it
Anonymous No.543070835
Anonymous No.543070946
>>543067762
This.
Anonymous No.543071475 >>543072983
i bet yinglet anon is happy there's a yinglet game now
Anonymous No.543072086 >>543072340 >>543073362
Is nobody going to make a new thread?
Anonymous No.543072340
>>543072086
Anonymous No.543072762
Is bread-anon dead?
Anonymous No.543072983 >>543073181
>>543071475
There's a yinglet game now?
Anonymous No.543073181
>>543072983
yinglet creator on steam
Anonymous No.543073362 >>543073815
>>543072086
i'm at work
Anonymous No.543073815
>>543073362
hi at work, i'm dad
Anonymous No.543075961
>>543064042
anon...
Anonymous No.543077701
too in a hurry to update the news, i'm between customer calls rn
>>543077646