Thread 542692024

Fix it Riot edition

Wiki for character guides and such (Under construction)
https://wiki.play2xko.com/en-us/
>Official link
https://2xko.riotgames.com/en-us/
>How do I get in?
Early Access doesn't require a code. Come hop on!

>TWO ECKS KAY OH
>>542432429

Jinx sexo

WHEN IS RENEKTON

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpSIKBF1IiA

>>542692713
Twisted Intent vol2

>>542692713
Warwick is the Renekton function

>>542692713
>fury install
>slashes people
>spins through people
Liderally would just be warwick with ahri dash

Fucking love parrying bros
Cant get enough of that shit

>>542692925
>>542693042
listen i'm just using this as an excuse to post meme videos from the before times. i have no true bond with renekton
>>542692904
how did you have that shit locked and loaded

This game does seriously need a Shuriman or Targon champ and stage
In general there's too little magic for what league of legends should be, I need some casters and gods in this game

>>542694680
>how did you have that shit locked and loaded
That's nothing.
>>542302018
>>542302226
>>542302897
>>542307256

>>542693789
sex

Every post here should have the poster disclose his rank so I know if I can take him seriously or not
I know we have some emerald niggas here posting about balance and shit

Im 1 win from emerald

IS ILLAOI / JINX THE MOST PEAK TEAM??

>>542694863
zoe would be really cool

Darius kinda looking cold as fuck here can't lie
Guy does not have this much aura normally

>>542697673
No, Tom Cannon.

>>542697841
No she wouldn't
Stop thinking with your pingas

Where the fuck is Yi
You cant have a LoL game without Yi

>>542697841
agreed my brother
>>542700026
Why not? She's got wacky projectiles, maybe her Q you could bounce it off the wall and the ceiling or redirect it by hitting it with her ping pong paddle, her E can be a slow moving orb that puts you to sleep like timewinder
She can have a random item toss to represent her W, could bring out iconic league items like Ravenous Hydra or Deathfire Grasp, Gunblade ignite and flash could all work.
And she's even got teleports like item characters always seem to have, like Teddie or Faust

She even has a Yoyo in league so you can lift some bridget normals

its over bros
the japanese will never give our western games a chance ever again..
https://x.com/2XKOIntel/status/1978123461533798892

>>542698060
look at how perfectly he would've ripped ekko's throat in half with that swing if he didn't have hax
god my hubby is so fucking cool

>>542694863
I think we should get Azir or Taliyah, desu. Both their kits would be fun as hell

>>542700204
>Yasuo but lamer

>>542696634
> some emerald niggas here
thats all of the niggas nigga be real

Vi should get an attack where she double axe handles down onto your dome
Her J.H is okay but she's really missing a move where she just clubs people with both gauntlets at the same time

>>542694863
It needs both. Personally I want Nasus and Pantheon.

I'm just gonna learn Ekko, fuck this

>>542713396
dont bend the knee nigga just take a break until next week when the patch drops that guts every zoner in the game. spend your time labbing. dont weaken your will

the monkey paw CURLS and riot will imitate capcom and give us 1 balance patch a year

>>542713782
but anon
I play Teemo

>>542708382
ill be gm as soon as i can get time to grind it out

>>542713868
hell fucking no

>>542713782
>>542715197
Yasuo and ekko are the only true zoners in the game. Half the cast can just ignore and blast through every thing in Teemos toolkit.

i'm not gonna buy vi
i'm not gonna buy jinx
i'm not gonna buy riven
i'm not gonna buy cait
i'm gonna buy levels

This could've been Ahri and Sona but Riot hates the idea of making millions, instead they added Illaoi

>>542717720
nigga are u really expecting a fucking commiefornia Company to deliver fan service and/or not be pozzed lol
you'll be getting graves and he's going to fuck TF for his taunt

>>542716143
o i was closer than i thought teehee
threadly reminder that gariusfag DOES have hands

>>542713782
>>542713396
imma be honest I don't ever expect Ekko and Yasuo to get nerfed to an acceptable level
Ekko and Yasuo aren't strong because they have a really strong tool, they are strong because they have a really strong tool and also do everything else better than anyone
Hell, I don't want to imagine what Kat was like if she got removed because she had too much while Yasuo and Ekko were left in
We'll see how it goes because one strength riot has is their patching

my body is diamond but spiritually i'm bronze

>>542718931
riot's strength is that they patch a lot and listen to players, but they are very open about the fact that they play favorites. can not tell you how many times i read a league patch that said "this champ's top tier but we like her so we're buffing her"

>k7 in my lobby
>check his game out
>he's not playing darius anymore
buffs soon

IT'S FUCKING TIME!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH MY HUBBY IS THE COOLEST AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>only dariusfag we have left is is a literal faggot
grim

>>542724505
im sure theres other people in here playing darius but the real question is are you gonna run the set

>illaoi and ekko
>2x assist
Is there a more frustrating team to play against?

>>542728016
it's up there for sure. honestly i hate fighting a team with jinx on it the most just because her va is so ungodly horrible on the ears

well, count your blessings I guess
at least 2xko is better than

>sf6
>mk
>dbfz
>strive
>tekken
>granblue
>melty
>inbirth

which says a lot for how fucking awful modern fighting games are in general

>>542731764
i had a lot of fun with strive
i think i probably would've liked melty but i literally never got a match in it, didn't buy day one so i missed that boat completely
the rest yeah for sure. i still don't understand how i played so much sf6

Kami 6 is mogging us............

>>542732097
there's just no beating the viewership for that game, period

>>542731892
The only character in strive I really liked was bedman, because you're literally a psychopathic hospital bed possessed by a ghost or some shit, which to my schizo brain was like the coolest shit I had ever heard of. It actually got me to buy the game, and it was... decent. I enjoy 2XKO a lot more though, brings me back to the MvC2 days, which I assume is because Combofiend was on the dev team for it.

>>542732358
bedman was such a sick character concept in strive, especially that fucking theme song
i never got to play mvc2 competitively or even with other people, but i did play over 9000 hrs of it vs. the computer on dreamcast as a kid lol, this game's amount of freedom does feel like that

>2xko has been out for a week
>already getting forgotten
>meanwhile
>SF6 new character which has more content than all of 2xko
>GBVSR brings the lesbians with great animations
>DBFZ is getting a balance patch news overshadowing 2xko
>ARMORED KING
Mr AIgen himself Sajam isn't gonna be able to shill 2xko with his chipotle in the face of this

>>542692024 (OP)
Don't think i have seen the base Ekko skin, since the launch of the Arcane pack, how sucessful is this Arcane pack? I swear people were crying about the pricing, but everybody has this skin now.

Oh and

Another day, another 2xKami WON day

>>542733383
2xKami already beat those games, we are looking ahead vs a popular genre, not the little kids table AKA figthing games

>>542733383
bro whatever you're smoking, share some of that shit with me, I ran out a couple days ago

>>542733746
Just smoking reality my man, 2xko, barely made a splash and is being quickly ignored by the general gaming audience and fgc

....................................... c. viper

>>542733921
lol
lmao even

>>542701256
>>542697471
>>542692285
this game makes me want to lose...

>>542733921
>general gaming audience

Meaning it does not get spammed on leddit and /v/
kek

>>542735043
Yes this is bad for a riot game, the whole reason they made 2xko was to get the normie audience and league of legends players to play it and spend money, if they don't care you won't get characters or balance patches

>>542735043
id recommend you dont bother with trolls
theyre just upset because they dont have steamcharts to post

fuck the trolls, but I will say I kinda wish I had a way to track my hours so I know how much time I'm wasting every day playing this hyper addictive slop fighting game

and I mean that in the most friendly way, because this is my kinda slop and I don't give a shit if it's bad or unpopular, fuck it we ball

>>542736092
same
i'm thinking of learning new characters

honestly it's kind of funny that as soon as i got to gm it threw me in a lobby with like. literally nothing but big names and rioters. the whole "this game is made for the people who made it and their friends" thing really is true. it didn't make me fight any of them (thank god) but it did make me hyperaware of the fact that if i climb any higher i'm gonna end up getting embarrassed on stream over and over until i die of shame!

>>542735304
You say this, but have you seen Valorant on here? TFT on here? they are both sucsessful and still they don't get spammed for low tier ragebating.

Leddit and /v/, where YOU spend all of your time on, are just hubs of max 10k visible and loud people, that spam singleplayer/is this game woke or not games and Valve dick riding, why would this be your source on if 2xKami is a sucsess or not, lol

>>542736992
iktf
i see like cloud805, chris g
i'm just gonna be fodder for them, bro..

>>542737113
i legit do not even want to play against them. like i don't even want to try. i'll be too curious, open their stream, and regret it lol
fuck this it's casual matches for the rest of my life boys

>maximillian dood HATES our game
it's over, d00ds. discord fighter by November...

I really want to buy the Vi skins, but I’m bronze 2 and don’t want to spend money on a game I’m bad at. At what rank can I consider myself good enough to spend money on the game?

>>542738029
This actually means the game will survive, unironically

>>542738597
bronze 3
get to it, champ

>>542738597
does not matter if you are bad, if you enjoy it and plan on playing it, then go for it

>>542737080
>they are both sucsessful
unlike 2xko which can't even muster 2k viewers on twitch or any decent threads here or reddit
>Leddit and /v/, where YOU spend all of your time on, are just hubs of max 10k visible and loud people
They're still the hubs for these communities especially reddit, and not to mention Riot actually backs those games, 2xko got one cinematic that wasn't even good and left to fend for itself. It's not doing well.

LOL

>2XKO menus make my computer make a loud whirring noise
I don't hear anything during gameplay, but each menu makes a different pitched whirring noise. The main menu with the render of Ahri (or whoever) is by far the loudest. What the fuck is wrong this game?

>>542743735
try setting a fps cap
during gameplay, it's 60fps locked,
but in menus, it's unbound

>>542709852
her 6H dummy

>>542741589
God BLESS Riot. 2xkami WILL be a success, and you WILL stay mad. The messiah of fighting games bigger than MK, bigger than FighterZ, bigger than SF6. The next big thing on the horizon, and you WILL play it.

>>542741114
U R MAD >>542645591

>>542743735
First off clean your system man, then yeah limit fps and check your temps with a program like speccy, depending on your systems age it could be fixed by applying some new thermal paste or be the signs of the girl getting on in her old age

>>542747084
That's literally because max d00d was streaming lol.
When the big names move on it's over

>>542743735
you have two responses
this one with good advice >>542744412
>try setting a fps cap
and this one where a guy that doesn't know anything about how anything he owns works (car, computer, bad dragon dildo)
>First off clean your system man
>check your temps with a program like speccy
>it could be fixed by applying some new thermal paste
Because looking at your post
>I don't hear anything during gameplay
>each menu makes a different pitched whirring noise
rules out basically everything but throwing an FPS limiter on the menu

>>542744412
How bizarre. Thanks.

>>542747881
you need to clean or replace your PC fans regardless if the whirring is different for each different menu, the lack of an FPS limit is what makes them spin up but they shouldn't be "whirring"

>>542746770
Most of the people watching competitive League have kinda already made up their minds about 2XKO

>>542746770
>surely people who play our hyper casual ASSFAGGOTS that likes to pretend its competitive will play our hyper competitive fighting game that pretends it's casual

>>542744925
I forgot about that one true
That one is actually good but it's missing that little extra sauce and oomph

>>542748124
>muh league is hyper casual
dotard detected
you lost nigga
your anime sucks, nobody cares about your baby tournaments, you dont get a fighting game

>>542748190
I do agree that 6H is missing oomph since it's a fast overhead normal that doesn't lead to much but it is exactly what you were asking for.

>>542747984
It's not my fans, it's a piece of hardware although I didn't bother to check which. Probably the GPU.

>>542748385
>call it an ASSFAGGOTS
>LOLbab assumes I play a different ASSFAGGOTS
your entire genre is hyper casual baby shit
>>542748430
It's either your case fans, CPU fan, or GPU fans. Nothing else in your PC should be moving or capable of making noise unless you have a spinning rust disk (HDD).

>>542748532
KYS dotard imagine still trying to sell your narrative in 2025

>>542748802
>League of ASSFAGGOTS addicts literally cannot fathom that people don't play games in their genre
How long until LOLberts start claiming that 2XKO was the original and is the only viable fighting game? 2 years?

>>542743735
If it really sounds different on different screens instead of just being different levels of fans blowing then it's probably coil whine from your PSU. Make sure it's sufficient for the rest of your shit. They have a bad habit of taking your motherboard with them when they go.

>>542749130
if anon described his PSU coil whine as a "whir" then he deserves the eventual PSU fire

>>542748532
>>542748385
Stop this meaningless squabble. We are all brothers in arms, wishing the best for 2XKO and the FGC. Now, to mend your grievances, why don’t you guys play duo?

>>542749497
>Now, to mend your grievances, why don’t you guys play duo?
I'm waiting for patches

>>542749590
Then at least show good will and add the man as a friend. Make a promise to play when patches arrive. Be the better man.

>do all First Steps quests
>no rewards
what the hell do i have to do

>>542753161
post on Twitter to tell the devs to fix air blocking

>>542695976
>anon reveals his powerlevel to the thread and nobody bats an eye

>>542753189
And ekko and yasuo

>>542661651
Neither of Vi's level 1 supers are frame 1 invuln

>>542695976
well done anon impressive

what is the point of playing a zoner if half the cast obliterates zoners

>>542755952
because the game is only about upbacking and overly safe neutral dude havent you watched any tournaments

>>542755952
Because making the rushdownchud one and done you is a feeling of kino unreplicatable

>>542756296
I'm sure you think this is funny but have you watched any of Tampa Never Sleeps' tournaments?

>>542756516
have you watched any of evo's tournaments they're an up and coming pretty big name in fighting games had some smalltime players like wawa and sonicfox in it

>>542756480
>tfw the rushdownchud is vi/ekko/warwick
i'm surprised the vi in your vid didn't do it more often or even let it get to that point but lariat and her dash just obliterate anything teemo can lay down
pissing rushdown off IS why i play teemo but he feels so volatile

>>542757136
Teemo can answer both if you know which one is coming
When she tries to dash at you I just swing out my frying pan or call my Vi punch assist, it isn't invul to normals.
If she goes for a lariat then you can straight up sling shot it, or parachute over and punish with a falling medium. Or just parry it too, her lariat is very easy to deal with honestly especially if she's spamming it.

The Vi has to mix you up to actually get in, but once she's in you do just explode yeah. Piloting Teemo is a high risk game

>>542756704
yes anon in sub-1week from launch the people with the best fundamentals win, in 1 year it'll be the people who play THIS game the best which will involve boring safe neutral play like we see at TNS every week if there aren't big system changes

>>542757136
>I play Teemo
>Vi can beat everything I do for free without thinking
>no I don't play Vi and have never experienced trying to get in on a good Teemo, I have only experienced being a bad Teemo and Vi getting in on me
What motivates people to say stuff like this?

>>542758338
did you really expect high quality posts on 4chan. there's no nuance here. everything is extremes, newcake

>>542758176
>sonicfox and wawa definetly havent been playing 2xko for 6 months straight in the riot hyperbolic time chamber no sirree
truly, truly naive of you anon

>Caitlyn gets announced
>HERE COMES A NEW CHAMPION
>it's Jayce
If they put the entire Arcane cast in this fucking game i'm gonna scream and piss down YOUR leg in anger

>>542759427
I'm okay with Jayce so long as he comes out way later maybe next year even
Viktor WOULD make me piss my pants though so it's really just nostalgia talking probably

>>542759427
>niggas thinking ekko and yasuo do everything right now
>jayce comes out and zones harder than teemo while being able to jump the fuck in whenever he wants and beat your ass with armor and plus frames that make braum look retarded
hell yeah cant wait

>>542758917
It doesn't matter if their opponents aren't enough of a challenge that they have to play a safe neutral. Is this your first tag fighter? Why are you pretending that every tag game isn't about using your point character to position your assist in an advantageous way and never risking getting TODd on your point?

>>542756296
All of the games 2XKO takes inspiration from are overly safe neutral games including and especially mahvel. What does 2XKO do that makes it different?

>>542760818
>their opponents arent enough of a challenge
Are you retarded their opponents are each other. They're playing each other
what nigga is more of a challenge? fucking go1? Jwong? Thanos?

>>542761070
>watch Evo Grands
>it's a shit ton of full screen backdashing and overly safe neutral
What are you smoking?

>>542761421
You clearly dont know what shitton means
There isn't any fullscreen backdash spam they only ever spam backdash twice with one forward dash to footsie each other before going in, how is that not normal neutral?
Where is the upbacking? the timeouts?

>>542762016
>there isn't any fullscreen backdash spam
>every round has at least 2x instances of one or both players doing it
discuss in good faith or go somewhere with upvotes so you can get instant gratification instead

>>542762326
yeah.., and then they go in 2 seconds later?
Literally what the fuck do you mean by overly safe neutral then? Do you want backdashing to just be never ever used?
There's not a single stalemate where neither player is willing to engage until their assist lands a hit, which is what overly safe neutral obviously means

>>542762739
Dude what? Every single engagement is based around assists, whether calling one or beating the opponents when they don't expect it. I counted 4 instances in the entire set where someone went in assistless and didn't eat shit for it and 3/4 were Darius.

>"rotating shop" changes
>Open my shop
>It's 3 of the exact same skins, only 1 changed
Uhhhhhhhhhh

Is this that "FOMO" shit people keep talking about? Because I'm not feeling anything, letalone any fear.

>>542763282
Usually the entire shop changes

>>542763101
Yeah? dude. They aren't just fishing for an assist to hit while upbacking or dash spamming with the point, then backing off and waiting the cooldown out when the assist whiffs or gets blocked.
Obviously you want to call the assist to help with the engage but they're fullsending it with their point every 2 seconds, how is that a slow paced game?

Theres like 7 total seconds of "backdash spam" per round, anybody would just call that footsies.
You must think walking backwards and forwards is downback spamming

>>542764179
I already conceded that the gameplay we saw at Evo was higher paced than the game will develop into. Every single fighting game looks crazy year 1 compared to 2 or 3. I like this guy's question: >>542760987

>>542760987
>>542764326
Nigga idk
I'm just watching the game get played by the no lifers and describing what it looks like
Why dont these marvel players play the way their used to then?

Go to the furries stream and ask him why he doesnt spam upback and call assist and tell him that it'll make him win more

now that the game is out and the dust has settled
were the doomsissies right or did they kill themselves?

Nigga Sonicfox isn't a new face to the genre. We all know how this nigga plays fighting games.

He'll do something that works for the first 6 months of the games life, and then when people adapt and can beat it easily he'll drop the game and go back to playing whatever slop ass kusoge like Shitgirls or Mortal Kombat (where he can win by using the equivalent of fullscreen hadouken because NRS have zero idea about how to balance a zoner).

If this wigger is representative of the average LoL player, Riot is cooked. They are too fucking dumb to learn anything other than kiting

>>542765330
Literally fucking who

>>542765585
A nobody. I was curious about the thoughts of lol players on 2xko and seachrd on yt. The game is good, it should be as big as valorant, but i guess fighting games are to niche for most people

>>542764873
>go back to playing whatever slop ass kusoge like Shitgirls or Mortal Kombat
NRS is ded right now so it is likely he'll stick with this game for longer than average

When is the new balance patch, likely

>>542765330
if you're gonna shill your own video at least has the balls to link it

>>542768051
likely next week.

A balance patch that actually fixes things? thats never coming

>>542765330
I found it and its really funny how he is instantly so done Riot's shitty monetization meanwhile the FGC is tripping over themselves saying "actually the 100 usd bundle is GOOD" really shows how desperate some FGC heads are to get that Riot bux.

But yeah dudes ass, his editing is shitty and overdone trying to be funny, but it does show that the average lol player is probably not gonna stick with it even if they think it's kinda neat for now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP3N8SF_mP4

>>542768547
The game will be fixed when Yasuo gets 2 less damage from a random move bro trust the plan

>>542769289
the 100 dollar bundle is genuinely a "good" deal if you consider everything inside of it, but only if a) you're gonna be playing the game for real for a long time b) you haven't already bought other bundles, c) it exists within the realms of riot's pricing, which in itself is pretty outrageous and some other fighting games are mirroring (SF6).

personally, i like the game but i can't see myself spending that much on it right now. maybe over time, but all at once? no

>>542768348
I'm brown

>>542770097
>the 100 dollar bundle is genuinely a "good" deal if you consider everything inside of it
no, no it isn't

>>542770393
>free game
>get all characters unlocked for 80 bucks
>about 50 bucks in riot fun bucks
>arcane skins which would probably normally cost 20 bucks each
>including all their chroma
i'm not defending the business move at all, bro. i'm saying that given their bullshit monetization, it's a better deal than buying literally anything else. it's fucked up that it's a better deal, and i'm not saying people should be buying it, but i also understand how it works

I just think the Arcane Vi and Jinx skins look like ass and I wont play Ekko anyways

>>542770602
>including all their chroma
Man, since when is having only two fucking colors per character in a fighting game normalized

>>542769289
In Brazil, the Arcane bundle is either $25 or $50. I don't remember the exact price.

>>542770602
even within their shitty monetization it's a shit deal because you dont actually have to buy the characters to lab them so you can just focus on your mains, and the skins are just junk and not worth near the amount they ask for.
>but i also understand how it works
I understand it too and it's not worth even 50 bucks, let alone 100

>>542733438
>how sucessful is this Arcane pack?
successful enough to recoup the losses from about a month of their 10 year dev cycle, without accounting for the purchase of the Rising Thunder studio
Just the 80K they're shelling out for the Shillslam is already 800 Arcane packs

>>542746770
Belial's costume had 24 MILLION views on Twitter

>>542771490
Oh thats just sill- holy shit it does

>>542771490
>>542772024
That translated to... -3 players.

>>542763282
The fomo shop shit works for Valorant because there are 16 weapons you have access to all match. Here you don't even have 16 characters lol

>>542771490
>>542772024
Are Twitter views that big of a deal? More significant than live viewers?

>>542772553
Absolutely not, as I mentioned that translated to 0 players.
Even when Belial was the best character in the game I barely have seen that skin around.

>>542772553
>Are Twitter views that big of a deal?
eh not super really because it counts people scrolling past it as a view, but all things considered a GBVSR tweet getting that many views means that more people checked it out than other GBVSR tweets, probably because horny

>>542770972
1 usd = 5.46 brl
100 usd = 546 brl
bundle
100 usd = 438 brl
438 brl = 80 usd
440 brl = almost 1/3 of Brazilian minimum wage

>>542772024
>>542772274
>>542772553
>>542772654
>>542772768
point is precisely how much it didnt matter. I wouldn't expect much difference from those 250k views

>>542771107
>worth worth worth
There’s no way to properly value microtransactions at anything other than the price the devs set for them. So none of this shit ever has ANY value, objectively speaking the price of the bundle aligns with the price they charge for everything else and that’s the entire point anon is making.
What YOU value or how many mains YOU have doesn’t at all matter to that fact, your entire post is completely meaningless

NERF ILLAOI NERF ILLAOI NERF THAT CUNT SHE IS MORE BROKEN THAN EKKO

>>542748124
>hyper casual ASSFAGGOTS that likes to pretend its competitive
So you're entering the next Worlds and winning over a milly for FREE right?

>>542773809
just because a game is casual doesn't mean that the people who spend every waking moment of their lives playing it aren't better than the people who don't, I cannot believe this has to be explained to you

>>542774106
So, that's a "No" then? What's wrong, fatass? Afraid your obese body can't COMPETE?

Casual FGC niggas FEAR the LoLchad

>>542774106
What’s the difference between a casual and competitive game? Enlighten me, please

They put a trailer for this game out at Worlds which gets like 300k live viewers at any given time, what are the chances it did anything

>>542774313
If I like it it's competitive, if I think it's gay it's casual.

>>542774258
It will be nice when t1 challenges himself to reach Challenger

>>542774313
this >>542774424 but unironically

niggas really arguing with a vtard who uses ''assfaggots'' lmao
couldn't be me

>>542774416
>>542771490
>>542772274

>>542774875
calling it ASSFAGGOTS is a longstanding tradition and being mad about that says more about you than anyone else

>>542775219
>calling it ASSFAGGOTS is a longstanding tradition
on /v/

>>542775509
On every board on this website any time the genre is talked about. Also don't forget
>couldn't be me
it's you right now

/v/ermin are so pathetic

Guys, I did some in the field investigation into /v/tards' opinions. It's not looking good
>>723333952

>>542778517
I'm stupid

>>542778749
>>542778517
>>>/v/723333952

LordKnight already went back to Strive...

>>542780212
the snowbunnies in 2xko aren't even 1/10 % as hot as the strive snowbunnies so i can't blame him

can't find a team I want to git gud with
feels like everyone is just playing teemo/yasuo/ekko and every other character kind of sucks against them
either I play braum/darius or just unga bunga on something like warwick/vi
I need something fairly braindead help

>>542788621
Just pick the characters you like. Your problem is skill, not tiers.

>>542788621
If you want to have something that competes with the top tiers with very little effort just pick one of them
If you want to pick off meta then prepare to work at it
Its not that complicated

>>542788864
nta but at higher levels of play not having at ekko or yasuo on your team feels like such an insane disadvantage though. genuinely makes you start to feel stupid for working so hard when the guy on the other end is like "heh, nice try but did you know that i can press timewinder?"

When would you pick Jinx over Teemo vice versa?
They feel so similar

people are starting to wake up to this bullshit
how long till riot management realizes a pure mvc tagslop will never be popular and they force the retards on the dev team to tone this shit down?

>>542790915
you would pick teemo over jinx because you don't want to listen to BWEAGH! BWAK BWAK BWAK! PANCAKE! BIIIIG ZAAP SHOOT EM IF YOU GOT EM! HA HA HA! BWAEGH BWAEAKGH BWAEGKH BWEAGH BYEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH

bro goes on reddit also answer to his question is yes

>>542791280
i guarantee if you watch any replay of this guy's games he loses like 10 interactions before the round ends.

>>542790915
Jinx has better normals, her fullscreen is better and her monkey is pretty good, and her zap is amazing
Teemo is much better midrange but he also blows up completely to any close range pressure at all and he doesnt have amazing tools for helping his assist get in other than supers

Riot emailed me and asked for feedback. I told them to FIX IT. Do your duty when they reach out.

>>542790905
i uninstalled at D1, I'll install again when they get their head out of their asses and realize that maybe Ekko and Yasuo shouldn't both be Master of all trades jack of none

Here's my several neutral losses. They hurt.

>>542794659
holy mashing

>>542794926
You don't know what mashing is.

>>542795548
If you think mashing only happens when you're blocking you're a fucking idiot. The very first interaction you mash out 5 buttons without even thinking about trying to reposition

Reminder to respond with "Nerf Ekko and Yasuo" in the feedback survey

>>542797031
fuck off theyre the only characters with mix go play street fighter

>>542797486
you fuck off

>>542791280
>how long till riot management realizes a pure mvc tagslop will never be popular and they force the retards on the dev team to tone this shit down?
probably yesterday, I fully expect 2xko to turn really shit due to riot's meddling so enjoy the ride while it lasts boys

When's Kennen? I see him right there and it pisses me off i can't play him.

i play with autocombo ever since SF6 i will use the cheap option and i will make people seethe i also play darius

>>542694863
didn't that early footage with darius katarina have the shurima sun disc in the background?

>>542798614
i hope so. Maybe we will finally have a good game

What are some good rushdown teams in this game? I've been playing a bit and I can't stand these faggot Teemo teams.

>>542801793
yasuo+anyone

>>542700204
what this anon said

>>542718393
they used to deliver fanservice

already starting to get kinda bored
also on an unrelated note I have not been able to stop farting for like 3 hours now should I see a doctor

>>542802330
gotta join lobby next time bro
fgs are all about playing with your friends

>bored of strive after 4 years, don't have the motivation to do the final push to vanquisher, queue in eu is dead
>bored of 2xko, not sure if i wanna commit cause i don't like it's current state that much and who knows what the future will entail with these devs
>there is nothing else i like
>i need something to grind and see myself improving at or my mental state will deteriorate, something my daily life can't give me

i already can feel the big depression coming. Like last december when i stayed almost two months in bed

>>542802330
>spoiler
Not enough info for a verdict. Did this start today or have you had gastrointestinal problems for a while? Is there bloating or pain?

>>542791280
It'd be more likely for the game to just stop getting support. What do you expect them to do exactly? You cant make a tagslop game into not tagslop without completely remaking it (again).

>>542800493
Nobody cares about Kennen

>>542804220
they can make a tag game without being a mvc level of retarded bullshit

>>542806005
Name a single sane 2d fighter

>>542806005
handshake tagging is actually a higher level of bullshit than mvc. Characters are less bullshit in general
its sick as hell man though? why you gotta whine so much

what do these symbols mean at the top? i assume one of them is the amount of spectators but what is the other one

>>542807917
3 people watching, 0 people in queue
if somebody queues up at the machine you're playing on, then once the set ends they'll replace the loser of the fight.

>>542808205
that's cool, haven't seen many people engage in these social aspects but that's probably more an EUNE thing

>>542808892
nah i barely see people talk in ranked since you're always fighting ghosts anyway, and nobody flashes stickers either. except me. i'm always spamming the little saluting darius one

>>542809036
i tried trashtalking a guy but he just left the lobby
;-;

>>542809036
>>542809657
is this a normie thing
i've never used these kinds of lobbies so idk what other fighters are like

>>542809864
back in bbtag people would always use stickers
after every game people would hit the gg yoduke one but nobody does here

>>542806850
i know
this garbage throws all the fundamentals of the genre out of the window
this is why it should have a way higher cooldown

>>542809864
I used lots of stickers in DBFZ. Had one for whining about lag and one for whining about Z Broly. A couple of "gg" and "you're strong" of course too.

>>542746770
no one will give a shit until caedrel plays it, something he promised to do 3 years ago btw
https://youtu.be/uHAnC4qHh6A?si=IGWoX5C85eMTAhDQ

>>542814103
that's just hitstun lil bro

>>542814445
I don't believe the entirety of the game from menus to whiffed hits has hitstun bro

some of the face button combinations make no sense on pad
>parry (yes i know it has a macro by default): light + heavy
>defaults to X and B so they're horizontally apart from each other, will just press the other 2 face buttons if you try to push with your whole thumb
>retreating guard: medium + heavy
>defaults to X and Y on controller, weird to hit with just the tip of your thumb so you have to rotate your entire fucking thumb
>no comfortable way that makes sense to rebind the face buttons that feels intuitive to use them on their own + hitting combinations for actions

>>542806850
>its sick as hell man though?
when you try to defend this game by spouting shit like this it just makes you look incredibly low iq

Bros, just finished Yasuo's combo trial and I think he's so cool, man!
He's similar to Johnny from GG! He even has some tech that's similar to +R's dash Jackhound! Stance 2H is like a high level up mist finer and the buffed 5S1 looks like a high level Xrd middle mist finer!

>>542816601
go back slimer

>>542816726
yes, Yasuo is just a Johnny skin instead of being actual Yasuo from League of Legends

>>542817007
Well, I like Johnny, so I win!

>>542816812
I don't play that trash. And even with how bad SF is, it is still a much better product than 2XKO
2XKO and SF6 are trash, they just stink in different ways

>>542806005
>they can make a tag game without being a mvc level of retarded bullshit
has there ever been a single case where this was accomplished?

>>542816726
>>542817007
there's a guy who works at riot who did a +R Johnny guide video, he's not a developer though.

>>542817849
Could you link it? I feel like checking it out

>>542819183
found it
https://youtu.be/5ZmT9LG24VY?si=IdbbBLtbt6CgVXW4
>Age Ratings Producer at Riot Games
sounds like a fake job

>>542820015
Thanks

>>542816601
>i have no enjoyment in life
me likey tag out still shoot you with gun then run up hit overhead and shoot you with electricity same time
boohoo pussy baby

ahri airdash partial charge heavy combos are killing me

>>542821304
I had trouble with the partial charges too
You just gotta not force it, just practice them a little every few matches
I actually went to bed and came back and suddenly I was able to do em
the brain is wacky

>>542821626
>went to bed and suddenly was able to do them
How do you motherfuckers get to adulthood without learning that you must sleep after any neurophysical training activity for it to set in?

Yasuo only has a single low in his entire kit...
He's Toki

>>542822821
2S1->5L isn't a low?

>>542822821
Wait, no, the wiki fucking lied to me. He has more than one.

>>542822984
It didn't, actually. I hallucinated and read it wrong.

>>542822003
Man its a video game what do you want from me
Do you go to bed inbetween darksouls bosses

dead game
dead general
dead microgenre

>>542824016
shit i meant to post this in /sfg/

>>542824016
wrong /gen/ friendo :)

>Hook stream
>Teemo/Yasuo
>Inzem stream
>Teemo/Ekko
>Redditto
>Teemo/Yasuo
>Supernoon stream
>Teemo/Ekko
Sigh..

>>542825547
Teemo is /ourguy/ thoughever

am i retardedd

Im trying to do Launch Heavy -> Jump -> Medium Air -> Heavy air in the combo trial

but when I do it my character isn't "following" the bot after the medium air like in the demo.

like I just stay in the same spot in the air, not moving horizontally, and my heavy air misses

wtf am i meant to do

>>542826260
nevermind im retarded I am supposed to jump and press right at the same time and not just jump vertically

>>542826260
you are retarded simply by choosing to waste your time on this dead ass piece of shit game

>>542826594
im sure your choice in video games is much sophisticated

>>542826594
You are retarded by simply choosing to post in the general of a dead ass piece of shit game
Leave, nigger.

>Guessing wrong twice and getting burst baited, losing a character right out of the gate
>Getting touched 5 straight times in a row by a solo character and losing from a 2v1 position
Honestly I’m not sure which one feels more disgusting
Damn this game sucks to be losing in even if winning feels great
They really nailed that league feel

>>542780212
I feel bad because he's a legend, but he sucks and barely makes top 8s at anything.
Same with Kizzie.

>>542828227
>They really nailed that league feel
IJBOL
this game is on death's door even before full release while league will fucking live forever

>>542826594
enjoy your goonerbait african woman dlc nerd

>tekken fag is so afraid to play his own game despite it just getting a new character (with an infinite) he has to post in the 2xkami general
kwab

>>542825547
>Leffen
>Teemo/Yasuo
>Zane
>Teemo/Ahri

Yea someone argued last thread that Teemo isn't even good. I swear Dix players invade these threads and try to drop opinions like they know anything.

>>542828561
You make it sound bad
I would play Nidalee

>>542828635
Wait, Miary Zo has an infinite? How? Is it like Steve's tekken 5 infinite.

>>542829848
yeah our african woman is uggo, kekken has us owned there
We could really use some choco goonerbait

>>542828561
>goonerbait
Spoken like a true californian

>>542780212
Isn’t he a notorious tag hater? What else were you expecting
I still remember he talked shit about bbtag when it was out fuck that guy

tfw more tempted to spend 100 bucks on arcane skins than buying the latest pokemon slop

killing people (killing people)
stealing money

>>542831616
Im having way more fun with the money i spent on this game than i did the last pokeshart game I got
Scarlet Violet was so ass it mightve killed my desire to play pokemon forever im ngl

>>542831616
>buying anything pokemon this decade
Yea your brain isn't properly wired man.

>>542831616
just emulate the pokeslop fatass

I keep upbacking on defense like it's dbfz instead of just push blocking and it's costing me.

>>542835228
but /2xkog/ said up-backing is op??

>>542828561
are u really trying to spin having this in the game as a bad thing
when 2xko has ILLAOI

>>542836428
I do it in between gaps to avoid mix but it barely works out.

>>542812350
>muh fundiess
niggas cant ever play games that have different mechanics man
someones gotta airdash for the first time and all yall old crusty asses gotta shake your fists in the air and cry about how your hecking honest fireball game is destroyed forever

My friend claims he's going to play SF6 again because of viper so I'm gonna play that until Tokon comes out. He's probably a liar though so maybe I'll be back.

>>542837686
bro sf6 is the worst fucking game of all time

>>542838929
nah I tried Blue Protocol Star Resonance and uninstalled after like 3 hours. That was worse.

uncharged timewinder needs to give a full combo because it wouldn't be fair if ekko wasn't sssss++++++ tier

so what rank is everyone

>>542843427
stuck in emerald. i'll never get grandmaster again

>finally get time to play
>nonstop ekko/yasuo teams
i almost miss the illaoi fuckfest

>>542843975
ekko and yasuo being toned down would fix this game so fast, shame that riot wont ever do it

>>542844141
trying to keep track of two lightning fast rushdown mix-up high damage pieces of shit with incredible zoning and anti-zoning tools sure is fun

nerf ekko and yasuo and now vi and illaoi are the undisputed top 2

>>542844279
>vi and illaoi
those two need toning down too, ngl. if we had more characters i feel like things would be slightly less outrageous by virtue of there being more options to potentially keep them in line

>>542843828
you can do it. if anyone can do it, it's you. don't give up, i believe in you

>>542843828
you can't do it. if there's anyone who can
t do it, it's you. give up, i don't believe in you

cviper is hard as shit
motions are so outdated why couldn't she be like yasuo

come home anons

>>542845798
sure
*goes back to sf6*

>>542844141
the thing is they need to be HEAVILY toned down to not be giga cancer
it'll never happen

i find it easier to feint in sf4, doing it with kick buttons feels so weird

>>542846224
did you genuinely mean to post this in /sfg/?

i dunno man
in dbfz u have stupid shit but at least you have a ridiculous amount of freedom to move around in the screen in the air
also the game does feel vastly different when a character dies, those final rounds where it's 1v1 are something else
2xko... just feels like you get the annoying part of a kusoge without the fun part

>>542846327
yes

tokon is gonna murder this game so hard

>>542846624
this game legit would be completely fixed if they just did something about ekko yasuo. it's so funny how much they ruin it

using warwicks blood frenzy 6s1 to go through a timewinder and just kill the faggot feels so good

sloppy play from both sides but that just happens in these situations

this yasuo champ seems kinda strong

>>542855714
idk he needs buffed imo (i know this bitch is just trying to protect his main)

>complaining about repetitive matchups in a tag game with like 5 playable characters
I forgot riot players are somehow even more retarded than the average fgc troon

>>542856189
well yea it's actually pretty annoying that literally every team in gm has either yasuo or ekko or both on it
kind of speaks to a larger problem than "the cast is small" because 2 characters being this dominant makes the cast feel smaller than it actually is, and it's already pretty damn small

>>542856293
Its not only a gm issue. Im plat 2 and all i see is Yas/Ekko. It does not matter how much they nerf them. Their toolkits in general are just too good. Every now and then i see a Vi or Dariusfag. But thata rather rare. Im running Teemo/Braum and get called a nerd. Nigga im not even trying and ur struggling with Yas/Ekko vs Teemo/Braum.

>>542857273
o my bad lol i had heard otherwise
there's plenty of ways they could nerf yasuo without killing him, though. for starters they could make it to where j.2h (the spinny flip he does) no longer hits high or they could make it to where he can't fucking cancel certain blocked moves into stance to make himself infinitely and permanently safe on everything forever. the biggest issue with the character is that other chars need to call assists to keep their pressure going whereas yasuo can basically keep going forever

Yasuo and Ekko players should be forcibly euthanized

Hi, formerly Bronze 2 Darius here. I got to Silver 2! I'm still using pulse and sidekick, not thinking of changing any time soon. The players are way better, I felt the difference. I couldn’t win all my games like before. I'm still not used to people using grabs, teching grabs, and using grabs myself.

Players still mash in this rank but their defense is better, so I’m thinking of adding delayed attacks to my game plan and reinforcing my spacing. I’m also considering training cleaner inputs, I keep miss inputing the overhead at least once per match. Another problem is that 5M isn’t winning all interactions anymore, so I’m thinking of either using 2L or working on my spacing. People dash at me, and 5M feels too slow to catch them. If this problem continues, I’ll record a match to get feedback from you guys.

I need to find a way to convert overheads and grabs into combos. I also need to get better at anti-airs. I’ve improved at calling assists, but I’m still not satisfied. I need to start using assists in my blockstrings and figure out how to use Illaoi’s neutral assist properly. Right now, I’m only using the back assist to dash in but I know I should also jump in with it.

What does your avatar look like?

>>542864085
Forgot to ask. I need adivice, is this the right way? Am I doing something wrong?

>>542857273
I actually really dont see that many yasuos in my low emmy games, for some reason.
Shittons of Ekkos though, ekko jinx ekko warwick ekko Vi were like all my matches the other day. One Braum Dar who raped the fuck out of me and one Yas Ahri
>>542864085
>converting overheads to combos
Just call an assist at the same time as your overhead hits
Otherwise you actually can't convert it to a combo, so it's a pretty hard call out.
Use lights when people are dashing at you yeah.
>avatar
its TD Qiyana from league
I would prefer to make normal Qiyana but there's literally 0 options that work with her, no miniskirt or haircut that comes even close

>>542864085
>>542864179
I forgot one more thing, I keep getting fucked by Teemo/Jinx. My strategy is to jump block heavy attack or use Illaoi's Back Assist to dash in, but I'm still struggling. Any ideas?

Also, my schedule is to play ranked during the week and training mode on weekends. Should I switch it? I think doing dailies and training mode might be better.

>>542868873
>TD Qiyana from league
Did anyone get it?

>>542869029
Like, one guy

>>542868873
I think you should make the hair blue

>>542868906
For Darius, mostly just dash block
It means you hit the dash macro then immediately start holding back
If you do it properly and time it right you should close the distance reliably.

Once you get close, then go for a jump in call assist if you think he won't super
If you think he'll super try to grab him, you'll invul through his mushroom.
If he tries to upback call assist, walk forwards still blocking or airgrab him

>>542870578
the shade of blue is so unsaturated
Doesn't work very well

>>542856293
It wouldn't matter if the game launched with 24 characters, Ekko and Yas literally have no downside to their gameplay because they are overkitted to the max. They both do everything that the game offers and do it best in class. They can both zone and do it better than the actual zoners in the game. They can both rush down and enforce an oppressive strike throw game. They can both do high low left right mix that is for the large part uninteractable. They both get to confirm into their bnbs from random stray hits that always leads into high damage and oppresive oki situations. They always get the corner. They can always keep extending their combos. They can both control large parts of the screen with their toolkits and stop you from approaching while they set up their own approach. They both have the best assists.

Honestly, if it wasn't for these two extremely badly designed characters, I would say 2xko is the best fighting game I've played in a while, but they do exist, and they do ruin the game.

>>542870657
Thanks, anon. Is Darius/Illaoi a good enough team? Do you think I should switch one? I don’t want to feel carried by the character, but if it’s bad, it’s bad.

>>542871505
It's actually pretty solid but you should learn how to properly use that Illaoi super with the tentacles
The wincon is to put them in the corner, inflict bleed, then rip the tentacle super and just dispense mids until they freak out and get hit or die from chip. Illaoi's assists are also very top tier so she kind of makes any character work

>>542835228
>upbacking on defense like it's DBFZ
further evidence that the retards saying upbacking is bad have no idea how the games work. DBFZ has vulnerable jump frames too you fucking dunces

>>542871472
Amazing to see someone this mind broken over two characters that are like 10-15% better than the worst character in the game.

Yo bros, I'm pretty determined to play Yasuo. Which character should I pair him with? Is Ahri or Darius fine?

>>542873710
>10-15% better than the worst character in the game
LOOOOL

Man this game is actually gonna be so balanced/fun when Yasuo and Ekko gets nerfd from S+ into A tier (Inshalla) every character will be viable then, hopefully in a week or two.

And also buff Jinx, and nerf Illaoi as well, with all of those things the game will be super healthy.

Another day, another 2xKami WON day

>>542873964
Anti-tierwhores are the worst part of fighting games. Why don't you just play FOOTSIES instead of games with multiple characters that you know you'll rage about regardless of what the developers do?

>>542873710
Tbh I kind of agree, they aren't actually that much more cheap than what other characters can do.
They just happen to do MORE than every other character so every team benefits from having them and they're everywhere.
I don't actually mind fighting Yas or Ekko. it's never impossible to beat them, but it is kind of annoying seeing them every game.

It IS better than there being just 1 best team, at least the secondary character is always different and it's not literally just yas or just ekko, that shit would be mega giga ass

>>542875218
>bro just play footsie with my obnoxiously overturned characters that have all the best tools in the game, do everything better than all the characters in the game, and invalidate almost all of the cast
>His idea of footsies is probably backdashing fullscreen setting up a windwall and going into stance

>>542856134
why does every pro in every fighting game have retarded opinions? without fail

>>542873746
Ahri, Darius, Illaoi, Jinx, Ekko all have top 8 placings consistently. Warwick and Teemo are new but I've also seen both of them in top 8s.

>>542875505
FOOTSIES is a game with only one character, newfag.
>>542875389
I'm not saying they aren't the best characters but having a melty over it is insane. This game is better balanced than any other tag fighter I can think of at launch.

>>542876526
true
these niggas aint know ball

Yasuo,Ekko and slight Illaoi nerfs, Jinx buffs, and 2xKami will be the most balanced game of all time

I have never seen a fighting game wiki this sparsely populated after more than a week since launch. Is it because Riot owns it so nobody in the playerbase wants to contribute?

>>542878038
I think it's the opposite, player run but Riot helps if needed, so the Fandom sites stops being trash

>>542878251
Riot literally owns the domain. Calling it player run is an enormous stretch.

>>542875592
You know they make real money off of these characters right?
It’s literally part of their job description to downplay their mains as much as possible, there’s real ass bread at the end of the road.
This also applies to people who upplay the top tiers in an attempt to get them nerfed though, that’s to their own benefit too. Always look at the mains of whatever twittard you take your opinions from

>>542880496
How bleak and miserable is your outlook on life to believe this? I'm not saying it's not true considering it's not a falsifiable claim but you realize that you could just not be so pessimistic about every interaction you have with other humans right?

Feels like these people have bad takes on fighting games because they have no idea what they're talking about. How many pro fighting game players do you know that are also good fighting game teachers? Like none of them. Being really good at fighting games and understanding them in a way you can have consistent and sensible mental models of balance or comparisons between characters are totally different skills.

>>542856134
Who are the 4 characters that might be better than Yasuo in K7's opinion? Post your guesses.

>Ekko
>Illaoi
>Ahri
>Teemo

>>542880869
Advertising and streaming have given these guys more power than ever.
Every redditor and twittard will parrot their favorite pro streamer opinions like a sheep. Tier lists and public perception are not divorced at all, it’s precisely BECAUSE feeling the strength of a fighting game is so nebulous for 99% of players that someone with a big enough audience can swing their influence and dictate reality.

This is known shit man. Why do you think devs, apologyman and combofiend and marlinpie are all banned from competing in tournaments? If you hand someone two things, power and a reason to use it, what do you think will happen?

>>542883850
>everyone parrots their favorite streamers who are almost always wrong
>everyone is parroting Yasuo/Ekko are too strong
really makes you think

>>542880496
if they were 200 IQ geniuses they wouldn't downplay them this blatantly hard. the guy genuinely believes that
truth is, like the other anon said, being good at the game doesn't automatically mean you know how to identify why you're good at the game

I also happened to be a top player in some games and when someone asked me how to get to my level I couldn't really tell them outright

>>542883850
>Advertising and streaming have given these guys more power than ever.
Sure.
>Every redditor and twittard will parrot their favorite pro streamer opinions like a sheep
Just say "every player", no group is immune to this.
>Tier lists and public perception are not divorced at all, it’s precisely BECAUSE feeling the strength of a fighting game is so nebulous for 99% of players that someone with a big enough audience can swing their influence and dictate reality.
I agree with the gist of this. I don't think that this naturally leads to the idea that the primary driver for players to give their opinions on video game balance is to make money or win tournaments.
>Why do you think devs, apologyman and combofiend and marlinpie are all banned from competing in tournaments
This is orthogonal to the original point. If you're just saying that profit motives can cause people to do shady shit then sure we're on the same page. But if you're saying that an infinitesimally small chance of a profit motivates most gamers to feel a certain way about characters in a video game rather than their own experiences and skill issues, we just won't agree.

>>542884590
I’m not saying they’re always wrong or that they’re never ever genuine
My point is that you should take everything with a grain of salt, especially whenever it comes from someone who stands to directly benefit.

The ekko yasuo stuff is the public perception snowball in action.
Even if in low tiers Braum is hardly marginally different from Ekko everyone only ever hears the chirping and advice of le top players. So more and more people pick the same characters, and the perception that x character is strong and z character is terrible becomes reality “if everyone’s thinking this way it must be right”

You can see this in how different regions always have different tier lists. Obviously 2xko has 11 charas so there wont be, but any game with a big roster has massive discrepencies, this is due to culture and popularity, and everything except for gameplay

>>542884590
god forbid a guy plays 37 different yasuos and ekkos back to back and forms his own opinion right

>>542885908
you can't have it both ways, either people are capable of making up their own opinions or they only parrot whatever their favorite streamer whose only motivation for ever opening their mouth is to make money

Does anyone else get random friends invite?

>>542885994
>>542885908
Well you can have it both ways.
so long as you have some nuance about it

People watch Tier list videos for a reason
People pick their mains and want to win games
The more popular a tier list, the more people will pick accordingly.
The more people who pick accordingly, the more it shows up in your games and influences your opinion.

>>542886348
Darius/(Braum|Blitzcrank) player?

>>542885007
Yeah that’s fair
I was a bit too aggressive with my wording in the first post. I can agree that being exploitative is more rare than being genuine but this isn’t a infestismally small fear.
The chance of Apologyman sneaking a shadowbuff to jinx out and then winning a tourney off of it is also a fairly implausible scenario, but it’s still worth it to put countermeasures against it into play, yes?

>>542886590
have you considered that just maybe people like yasuo and ekko as characters

Jinx/Warwick sound pretty zesty? She was my most played character besides Darius in the beta, but I'm gettin kinda tired of the latter... until his Crime City skin comes out.

>>542886882
Yes I think we're in basic agreement about the major points.
>>542887004
I think this is a much bigger part of it than anyone is willing to admit. Obviously they're the top 1 and 2 characters, but even if they weren't Yasuo and Ekko are just flat-out cool and have cool tools so they'll be popular picks no matter how nerfed they ever get. Nerfing extremely popular characters into the ground is a good way to kill your game.

>>542887136
>>542887004
>love Ekko for years
>want to play him
>want his Arcane skin
>it's too expensive to commit to buying right now
>tired of fighting Ekko
>slowly start to hate Ekko
This timeline sucks

>want the glasses for my avatar
>do everything for them
>they don't unlock
>check the two pages of missions for First Steps
>did literally everything
What more do I have to do?

Why do Yasuo's combo trials not use S2 even once despite the first thing the wiki says being that S2 is THE combo move and deals the most damage?
Also, can this character ToD solo or something? He deals SO much damage and evidently what I tried out is very unoptimized.

anyone got any good combo videos for vi / jinx

>>542888236
>Also, can this character ToD solo or something
He has higher than average combo damage but he's not realistically going to solo ToD without resource dumping that other characters can also ToD with. His real strength is converting stray hits that would give other characters very little into decent damage and oki.
>not use S2 even once despite the first thing the wiki says being that S2 is THE combo move
Most of the combos involving S2 are harder and incorporate routes that do exist in the combo trials. I'm not saying there isn't one but I don't know of any fighting games that include peak optimal combos in the combo trials.

>>542873710
rank

>>542889796
waiting for airblock to be fixed

>>542889850
LMAO
LMAOHFHEYCHWBDHTSHEHDEKXYSYWGSY
DO NOT POST YOUR FUCKING OPINION AGAIN

>>542890258
Is there anything more tranny coded than spamming letters on your keyboard and then not removing after typing legible words afterwards like your post is some kind of DM or IRC message that couldn't have been edited?

>>542890443
nta there's posting on 4chan

>>542890443
yes lol and it's posting your fucking opinion about a game that you're fucking gold 1 in and don't even play LMAO

>>542890627
I'll go install and we can FT5, you can even pick my characters so that we don't have to listen to tiercope afterwards.

>>542890761
>give me your account details grr!!!!
id recommend you just stop coming to the thread for the game you don't like cutie

it's so fucking over
i'm praying the console release saves us because the game is actually pretty fun

>>542891007
>you're a gold 1 shitter because you aren't hysterically mindfucked by Yasuo/Ekko
>Okay let's FT5
>NO WHAT ARE YOU SOME KIND OF STALKER?
You will never be a woman.

>>542891213
im just secure in my rank and skills. could you pls at least become an avatarfag so i know which posts to ignore?

>>542891575
>I am so secure in my rank and skills that I won't play against you after talking shit
ok
>could you pls at least become an avatarfag so i know which posts to ignore?
no

>>542887619
probably @ the devs on xitter because it doesn't seem like anyone knows

>>542889850
Goldbab…….

>>542892704
>if you have the self control to wait to play a game until a serious issue is fixed you are a shitter
Is it just a matter of you guys not understanding how frame advantage works or where is the disconnect?

>>542892940
Nigga just walk forwards and block instead of charging your vi punch fullscreen loolllll

>>542891204
No way. Dogshit game balance and Riot's retard dev's + the failed abortion "pro" players they have on the team will ensure this game dies.

>>542893148
That's a lot of words to respond "yes" to my question but I'll take it. I'm impressed that you were able to rank higher than gold without understanding frame advantage but as you continue to learn about the fighting game genre you'll eventually understand why I don't like how air blockstun works in this game.

>>542892940
>I lost a gold game SO BADLY it made me quit the game and uninstall it and post about it in the general days after
you arent helping your case at all my man log off

>>542894616
I actually stopped playing before the patch/ranked was released. I already offered an FT5 but (You)'re all cowards.

>>542857273
for me it was diamond 1 that 50% of matches started being yas/ekko and 90% of matches had either one of them
they weren't particularly good but it was absolutely dehumanizing to play so I uninstalled

>>542894813
Im at work from now till late
Ill ft5 tomorrow if you’re here at around this time?

>>542895305
I have meetings tomorrow but if you're on late tonight or tomorrow night we can. Just say some really dumb shit like
>there's nothing wrong with the inconsistent air block frame data in this game
and I won't be able to help myself if I'm around

>faggot who always ends with lvl 3 if he has it even if he only needs to do 1 damage
faggot

seethe

>>542896635
what a baby bitch kinda thing to be mad about

im convinced i dont need electrics on vi. i think i just need to lab more assist conversions and some jank mixup and im ready for the climb to masters. already got the ww 100 blood combo down, just need to clean up vi.

>>542896815
dont waste my time + i can be mad about anything

>>542896954
Silver 2 here. Do you really need combos to reach higher ranks, or can’t you just win neutral most of the time?

>playing into vi/ekko/yasuo/illaoi
>converting into high stupid damage off any stray fucking hit
i want these people to know how much i fucking hate them

Nothing can save 2xko at this point. Just pack it up. What a colossal failure.

>some strike assists just fucking appear on top of the opponent and hit them instantly within 1 frame
>some of them appear on top of the player that called them and don't even cross the screen
idgi

I'm going to pick at my hemorrhoids and that is more fun than playing this game

>>542898092
Cant most characters do this
Just learn an assist pick up and call it when you hit a stray and you’re chilling

>dekillsage's entire gameplan is to wait full screen for assists so he can go in
>immediately goes back to fullscreen if it doesn't work and waits for assists
https://www.twitch.tv/dekillsage

dead game
dead general

>>542898092
>fighting ahri/teemo keepaway team
just make it stop

>>542899658
it's honestly shitty

>>542899658
>his gameplan
that's everyone's gameplan and should also be yours

>>542900139
>>542900096
what do you mean bros every time I suggest that this game encourages overly safe neutral play like every other tag fighter that ever existed there's a cacophony of shit posts implying otherwise??

>>542900236
When he goes in hes still risking his point
He’s not shooting the assist and holding block while doing so hes swinging

This is acting like playing footsies and then swinging and then backing off when it whiffs is being overly cautious wtf do you mean? how do you play the game?

>>542900236
that's just one or two people going berserk
we do win those tho

>dekillsage's chat on a bender about chicken blocking being very strong in tag fighters
>they don't even know that 2XKO gives you better frame advantage on most moves for blocking airborne
but I thought this was a grounded game and nobody ever jumps what is happening???

>>542900236
I think everyone is waking up to it
https://www.reddit.com/r/2XKO/comments/1o5824v/highrank_gameplay_in_a_nutshell/
unfortunately from the comments they're all screaming "nerf ekko". yes, he's op, but they don't realize people do this with every character.
if someone has teemo and he dies you can 100% expect them to take time until they get his super assist ready before engaging you again

>>542900601
well in normal games you play footsies the entire game, there's no cooldown attached to it, here waiting for cooldowns looks lame, it's like you're playing WoW arenas or something

Can I get a redpill about this game? I'm pretty fucking shit at the fightings, but the ability to play with friend picked my interest

>>542902070
at high levels the game boils around to playing keep away while waiting for your assist to be ready but it is fun as hell casually. just hop in, it's f2p so you can try it out

it's so crazy funny how dead yasuo is literally a better character than the bottom tiers

>>542902070
if you're bad you won't notice the issues with the game, this is the most interesting fighter on the market but it has some fundamental design issues we don't know if they will resolve

>>542902704
>look ma, I said it again!

>>542902923
ya im sorry you take it personally but maybe when you no longer have a button to instantly that, frame 1, covers the entire screen in a hitbox that gives 90 frames of hitstun for you to roll up and do a combo, i'll stop making fun of u
(i will never stop making fun of yasuo players)

>>542903249
>making fun
You should work on that more because all I'm seeing is you pissing and moaning. You're losing a fighting game in the character select menu and then being melodramatic about it.

>>542903424
nah im gonna keep doing it

>>542901163
you can go in too man
Why are you acting like its a singleplayer game
If you go in and spend assist and the other guy has assist and doesnt go in he’s just shit at the game
If you watched an actual tournament the windows where pushblock and assist are down get exploited, not waited out.

The dynamic is only this onesided when one person is playing the game and the other guy is retarded or outmatched

>sit in one lobby for literally 90 minutes playing games
>nobody has said a single word in chat
man... i wish people talked more in this game.

>>542904698
why?

>>542899658
>>542900139
>>542900824
what a miserable and boring gameplay meta, at least slime rush goes forward

>>542904905
because i want to talk to people about the game.

I don't care what the state of balance is or what the game encourages. As soon as I have a life lead I WILL play extremely passive to bait you into hanging yourself because that's FG101.

>>542905106
>you shouldnt go forwards and then backwards and then forwards
>you should just go forwards and then throw loop
????

>>542904698
why not start the conversation cutie

>>542907985
i do

these guys are just pretending to be retarded right
Acting like the correct, game encouraged response to someone waiting out their assist and going in over and over and over, is to sit there and just take it, it’s a bit right?
The kind of retard you have to be to think that is really baffling

>>542908660
>make up a scenario nobody else is talking about and act flabbergasted that everyone thinks that's what is good
I'm not going to play your games. Re-read the posts you're so upset about to figure it out.

>>542908995
I mean the only other explanation is you truly have no idea how to play video games
Like maybe him going in, with his assist, could be something that you do with your assist? might help you get in and prevent people waiting out their cooldowns and using them to go in on you?
Perhaps, crazy idea i know

>>542820015
who the fuck is marty mcninja

i like it when my 2h just flat out loses to a jumping button

>>542910850
You did it too early
The invul frames are all in the startup you want to delay your 2h as long as possible

Is there any way to make tutorial inputs to show as gamepad buttons, not as fight stick?

What's the optimal solo ahri midscreen combo? Everything seems to want the corner or be 5 hits otherwise

why are you guys playing this instead of any other fighting game? this is slop compared to any of the good fighters

>>542897315
>Do you really need combos to reach higher ranks
>optimize your combo
>you now only need two neutral interactions to win, one per character
>do not optimize your combo
>you now need 6-8 neutral interactions won
tldr: yes
bit of hyperbole to get the point across, but this is a game that HEAVILY favors learning combos and gimmicky setups over learning neutral
it's not going to be that severe (1 touch per character) in game most of the time, LMH2Hjc 9jMHSX deals how much damage? 40%? 50% if you super into DHC? That's 2 bars, someone with optimized combos can do 70% for one bar, that leaves meter to be used on parry

I thought you had to do all the "first steps" to get your 2nd token? But I have 2 tokens now and I still haven't done the "unlock your free champion" step. Will I get a third token when I spend a token?

No Lux no Bux.

this game both encourages overly safe neutral and has no neutral. how?
because you can just stay at the edge of the screen backdashing while waiting for your assist, but if you do manage to land a hit with it then you are now at their faces, comboing them for ~50% and putting them in the corner

>>542912670
>>542897315
well you definetly need combos, but you actually dont need super optimized ones
So long as you can do about 50-60% for a bar mostly solo, you’re okay. and most characters can get there pretty easily. Pushing for that extra 10-15% doesn’t make a truly massive difference.

But if you’re going for pulse combos and you’re 3-4 touching you will be losing a lot more often

>>542918882
Except you cant have both

If it’s so easy to put someone in the corner with nothing but an assist, and having an assist is so powerful to the point that the instant it’s off CD you always go the fuck in, how is anyone sitting afk at the edge of the screen and waiting his cooldown out? Wouldn’t they get rushed down and raped in the next second at most?

>counter hits don't give you enough frame advantage to link with anything and can only do the usual gatling sequence

kinda lame desu. I'm used to Strive where there are 4 different tiers of ch, each one enabling different routes so picking the right starter is important. Guess this is one reason why combos feel so repetitive in 2xko

I'm starting to get the feeling that 2xko might not actually nowhere finished and Riot rushed it out just to start making back money on it

>>542923601
>anon figures out that in live service games they service them live

>>542923601
Just wait when they inevitably add 1v1 to the game. The reaction will be hilarious

too much meter, every combo ends in a otg dhc double super. Boring af
the round should start with zero meter and parry drain burst meter instead to compensate

it's not ideal but it would be better than this

>>542923601
Anything that isn't sheer gameplay in this game looks REALLY barebones, with just a coat of paint over it. Like, everything.
And this isn't to say the gameplay is this super advanced, fleshed out and polished thing.

isn't it interesting how you can tell someone isn't going to rematch by the way they play? if they lose that is

>>542932382
isn't it interesting how you can tell someone is a shitter by the fact that they post facebook frogs here like they can't even make it out of emerald

>>542923601
probably a mix of Riot wanting to cash out on it and getting anxious about the turn the game has taken in public perception.

https://old.reddit.com/r/2XKO/comments/1o83f3f/i_dont_enjoy_this_meta/
2XKultists, you WILL enjoy the backdash spam, you WILL enjoy Yasuekko

>>542933297
?
people have been clowning on it for "never gonna come out ever and if it does it's gonna be bad and even if it's not it's gonna die overnight" for years
now it's here and people like it and everyone you see online has the 100$ arcane pack

>>542934107
This game was slated for 2026 and only 10 champs on release btw

>>542934915
they announced 2025 before tokon was announced fyi

you can really feel the gigantic gap of skill between a normal player and a meta player based on how well they can defend when someone actually manages to get in.

Apparently they shadow nerfed Blitz by adding even more hit stun deterioration to his hooks. Now that I found a cool combo with his assist.

>>542940070
Holy shit I fucking CALLED IT and agree with him >>542881206

>>542940070
truth.
Nuke.

Ok, what's the most broken champ?

>>542934993
No they didn't
That was post Tokon

>>542934915
idk why im asking this but do you think a free game would ever release with 20 characters
When it’s a free live service game that makes their only money from battle passes?
If they have 30 characters finished (they probably have at least a dozen rn) the gameplan that makes far the most money is dripfeeding them over years to artifically extend the game’s lifespan and sell as many seasons of battlepasses as possible.

>>542946639
yasuo/ekko duo with either handshake or double down

>>542947405
There was only one Yas/Ekko team in the top 32 of evo
He did win it but it’s hard to say it’s the best
Sonicfox washed wawa in the scrim after when he got off his warwick shitpick and went Ahri Ekko

we did it bwos i made it out of boblo

>>542949365
congrats bb

>>542947229
I think he was complimenting them on releasing early with one extra champ.

>>542895489
Kk ill host a lobby or something tmrw night

>watching tns
>pretty good character variety
wtf bros is 2xko… balanced??

>>542951730
That's the secret the shitters don't want you to know. Also several matches going to the time limit and lots of upbacking in the corner by non-zoner teams.

When's the next champ? Having a surprise Warwick on launch doesn't justify radio silence on the next release.

>>542947229
this game has to attract the most retarded retarded people ever
no dude the reason the game is releasing with 11 characters isn't because they want to sell characters, it's because the game has been mismanaged to hell and back

>>542952424
>Seasons. Early Access kicks off with our first draft of seasonal content: Season 0. Every season will have a new champion, Battle Pass, and more. Season 0 will last through the end of 2025. From then on, we’re aiming for five seasons of 10-ish weeks a year, each bringing a new champion.

This nakeythejakey guy is pretty tight on the jinx
Kinda fucks omega ngl, makes me want to pick her up

>>542952456
We know this is how riot does things dummy. We’ve already seen Project Yasuo in the game but it’s nowhere to be seen in the roadmap, they have like 80 skins sitting in a fridge for slow release because dumping them all is straight up pissing money into a drain.

Can you answer one question btw?
Lets say you have 30 characters and 60 skins made for your 80 dollar game. Management calls and tells you to make it a free game.
Do you
a) release all 30 characters and 60 skins at once
or b) dripfeed half the roster and all the skins over 3 years
Just take a swing at it

>>542947229
They sell the characters too you absolute retard

>>542953274
nobody conceded there were 30 characters and 60 skins sitting around that is your headcanon

>>542953438
Yes. thats the point
I know its your first live service game, but man
You know Wild rift launched with 40 characters, not even one fourth of the roster of league? Did they just rush it out the door? Obviously in your world they should have launched with at a hundred they would’ve made way more money selling the characters why didnt they do that
>>542953608
Do you know what a hypothetical is

ngl i'm not feeling any of the skins

It's been over a week since soft release
If you aren't grandmaster by now then it's time to admit that fighting games just aren't for you

>>542953274
Yeah sure in this hypothetical you probably sit on a few but you definitely hit a higher starting roster than 11 lmfao. If management called and you decided to release one third of the game you had prepared they should call you again to tell you how fucking stupid you are. Just not how serious people would do anything.

>>542954202
I like Arcane Vi but that’s the only one Im super into
And Demon Vi would blow it out of the water
God I need demon Vi BAD

>>542954202
same (but i still paypigged)
katarina better have something sexy

>>542954128
>Uhmm did you know 40 is less than 11

>>542954128
40 when Wild Rift came out was around 1/3rds of LoL cast. Guess how much 11 is of the current LoL cast.
Hint: You are stupid and a faggot.

>>542954771
You just dont know how live service game works
Wild rift released as 1/4th of the game league and dota are.
It’s made more money now than any fighting game has ever made ten times over.
Releasing unfinished and promising to patch and update it is how you hook whales. Mihoyo has LITERALLY done this shit 4 times over. It’s completely transparent, you can even see them “patch” in the fixes they’ve had in their other games for years.
Literally releasing old shitty patches from your cloudsaves every few weeks builds a fake feeling of goodwill you can exploit. Man you guys are so dumb, shit is free money

What are you niggas even talking about.

>>542955176
11 is actually exactly 1/4th of marvels roster though. He’s right

this monkey thinks Riot announcing they were going to release the game with 10 characters and absolutely melting the game's reputation before it was even out was a deliberate choice so they could sell the 30 characters they totally have ready to go
disregard that we had two betas that were a broken mess
disregard that the game looks like it was stitched together in 2 weeks
this is beyond mental illness

>>542955498
Can you engage with my examples of f2p games that riot has made and are successfully making money?
Do you think whales cared that WildRift was blatantly less than a fraction of each and every one of it’s contemporaries? It’s free. It’s reputation at launch literally doenst matter an iota so long as it hooks a few whales and drags their bloated corpses for a year or so

>>542955242
When I release my 2v2 fighting game with a roster smaller than most 1v1 games and see people shitting on the game online over it, already imagining the swimming pools of money I'll make with all this good will I'm accumulating.

The business knower has logged on.

>>542955863
A strategy that works for one game doesn't automatically mean it'll work for another, or that the dev team is even trying that strategy.

>>542955393
Wow I didn't knoe Ekko was Magneti's son...

>>542955934
You keep bringing up roster size like I havent established a counter example already
Why didnt whales give a shit that wild rift was a fraction of the size of every single other moba? Even direct competitors like arena of valor had 4x the roster size, hundreds of extra characters. Way more than the missing 10 you’re pissing your pants over right now. People still played and it’s still alive 6 years later
>>542955934
It’s not a question of strategy. The point is why didnt the players care that the game they were getting wasnt at all complete?
Hint the answer is the price tag

>>542956623
People probably didn't give a shit because Riot had proven itself to be able to make a MOBA people like in League and now they were gonna make it for Mobile, where there weren't proven options otherwise. There's a lot of other fighting games on the same platform as 2XKO, so if they decided to keep more than double the launch roster in the Riot Vault because of le epic business strategy they're retarded and so are you. Stop larping as a business analyst.

>>542957365
>There's a lot of other fighting games on the same platform as 2XKO
There were an absolute FUCK TON of competitors to wild rift. Are you daft?
There was like 5 different chinese mobile moba knockoffs with hundreds of characters making billions of dollars.
They still chose to release the game at a fraction of their roster and it didn’t matter even a tiny bit, can you explain that? At all?
You’re a fgfag so all you know is rosterfagging i get it, but try to explain it without making shit up

let's analyze our friend's theory
>Riot chose to release the game with less characters than they have ready because drip feeding content would make them more money
let's see the points against it
>11 characters would be too little for an 1v1 game. for a 2v2 tag game it's nothing short of abysmal
>the announcement that they were going to release with 11 characters after 10 years of dev time received backlash, the game's reputation melted over it
>we've had two closed betas that were broken messes
>they are planning on releasing 5 characters a year, which does not scream "we are ahead of schedule"
>everything in the game is barebones and lacking in polish
points in favor
>we know about an unreleased Yasuo skin
>uhhhhh dude they'd make soooo much money trust me bro

>>542957738
Ok so I did explain that. Riot has proven they could make a successful moba and support it long-term already, so they can get away with it in a "trust me I'm good for it" way. You're just gonna make me talk in circles so I'm just gonna stop engaging, you clearly need this argument win more than me anyway.

Btw who do you main?

>>542958342
Arena of valor had been around for 4 years when WR came out in 2020
Mobile legends 5 years
Honor of kings 5 years
Every single game has over a hundred characters and STILL has more than WR does right now
Mayhaps rostersize really doesnt matter as much as you thinks?

I play teemo :)

>>542958861
It all makes so much sense now and I can't believe I fell for it. You goddamn son of a bitch.

>>542958319
Wild rift didnt release characters that fast either
Only about 1 a month, hardly a brisker pace than it’s contemporaries
It also lacked all the extra gamemodes and shit it has now.
See I know all these facts because people made a giant stink about the rosterfaggotry when that game came out too
and wow, it’s still around
>>542959058
Mad because im right and you cant contend with my facts?

>>542958319
40 characters for a 5v5 game, with 10 bans, is abysmal too
The point is that it doesnt end up mattering when the game is free

>>542959157
Its just in Teemo players' blood and I can't even be mad anymore. Natural born ragebaiters. This is us right now, you damn goofball.

>>542949365
good work, proud of you

i wish you guys would talk about the game and not numbers and shit that don't matter
can you like post webms of plays you made recently i'll even take yasuo or ekko ones i'm not picky i promise i'll be nice. if you post a yasuo backshot string i'll even laugh and clap my hands

>>542961567
i'm busy playing the game
thinking of dropping yasuo and picking up teemo

>>542962096
>teemo
fucking meta piece of shit fuck you.................

>>542962096
honestly 90% of my anti yasuo shitposting comes from league and wishing my chars were as crazy as him. i played him in AL1 and thought he was cool and even thought about picking him up purely bc he has unique dialogue with darius but have been too lazy/having plenty fun w ww and blitz on the team
anyway nice clip lol that dmg is insane

>>542962395
been playing yasuo/ahri since alpha1, but i mainly just don't like that they nerfed his oki
it already was just okay
ahri fireball oki, though, is really appealing, so she's the keeper

+ teemo dart assist leaves them standing, so i can probably go for resets as ahri
+ teemo mushroom oki is similar to ahri fireball oki
- it's teemo.. not cool at all; he's definitely just a temporary partner for ahri

>>542962876
worth a try, ngl
his new combos are both easier to execute and do way more damage than before he got 'nerfed'

>>542963413
>- it's teemo.. not cool at all
we gotta get you that omega squad temu

>win roughly 50/50 of my matches in Casual
>Try Ranked
>get BTFO'd 5 times and land in Bronze 1
>get BTFO'd in new lobby
Alright.
How do I lab this Walmart BlazBlue clone

>>542964789
just play more bro

>>542947229
>but do you think a free game would ever release with 20 characters
nta but it has been in development for 6 years, really it's 10 but the devs say the current version was 6 years ago so let's go with that.
You'd expect more than 11 characters after 6 years of development especially since they've seem to have ignored working on most other things in the game
>But it's free
This might have some weight if 2xko was owned and developed by one of the richest gaming companies in the world and it's a tag fighter based on a game with over 100 characters, of course people expected a bigger roster
>If they have 30 characters finished (they probably have at least a dozen rn) the gameplan that makes far the most money is dripfeeding them over years to artifically extend the game’s lifespan and sell as many seasons of battlepasses as possible.
If they had 20 characters finished they'd push out more than 5 a year

>>542965761
>over 100 characters
Over 100 doesn't even do it justice considering it's 171 now

holy fucking shit shut up already nobody cares you've had this conversation 999 times since they announced 10 chars how are you not bored yet

>>542966283
This post >>542947229 is either bait or an actual retardation singularity, of course people will engage with it
I'm learning towards bait

>>542948171
i think that when people ask about broken characters, they're often asking about scrub killers or meta picks. consistent tournament placements aren't really the issue for 99% of the playerbase and even if said characters weren't picked all the time, they're still broken at most levels of play
but fuck that noise, ekko/yasuo/ahri*/illaoi and sorta vi are all pretty absurd

What's the most off-meta team I could possibly make work.

>>542856134
Yea eliminate buddy on the spot

Ekkobros I actually think we lose the matchup to Ahri she's just impossible to catch. I don't get how I'm supposed to approach that matchup.

this shit literally just tried to make me fight supernoon FUCK OFF

>>542972129
you gotta learn

>>542972254
no!!!!

essential nerfs to teemo include counterhit state if you hit him out of parachute

>>542948171
yasuo is a scrub killer but he's actually good so he's mindbroken a lot of shitters

i will not respond to downplayers

>>542965761
sf6 devs have said it takes them 2-3 years to make a character
So they had almost every one of their dlcs mostly done when they launched their game 2 years ago. Even C viper must have been 40% complete already.

And 2xko has a faster release pace even if they’re lower fidelity.
At the very least, the first year is completely done and the second is mostly done.

>>542978613
>sf6 devs have said it takes them 2-3 years to make a character
2-3 years to make a character this fucking ugly
god im so glad i dont play dix anymore

to the dude that beat the living fuck out me with braum/(i literally don't remember the other character because the entire set was just me getting fucked in the corner by ice braum lol)
runback soon pls i've gotten more braum matchup experience and i really want to see if i don't get 10-0'd again lol

>>542979927
filtered

>>542980702
she is a lot cuter when people draw her i just wish the game didn't have the single ugliest art style known to man

>>542978613
twoko also has fewer normals per character and fewer specials when you consider L/M/H/EX versions so they're probably easier to get up and running overall.

>>542972129
Shouldnt you take that as a compliment
theres not many people as good as you are

>not a single illaoi in tns top 8
>replaced with a storm of teemos
chat what does this mean

Okay yeah I'm done for now. Ekko is up there with Happy Chaos as one of the most obnoxious top tiers I have ever seen in a game.

the storm of teemos was 3 players compared to the 6 ekko players

>>542982871
it means matchmaking needs adjustment bro i get my ass beat by randoms all day long
i'm still reeling from when i fought eduardo hook a few days ago and got curbstomped, i probably hit him one time the whole set

Formerly Silver 2 Darius/Illaoi here. Hit Gold 1 yesterday. I’ve only done three matches in the Gold lobby, but it isn’t much harder than Silver so far. I started doing strike/throw mixups in the corner, but I haven’t worked on cleaner inputs at all. I’m also getting punished by dash grabs. I feel like I play too defensively, just waiting for the assist to engage. Should I change that? Is this how the game is meant to be played?

I also feel like I’m too reliant on Darius’s 5S1 to open people up while they’re defending. Does anyone have an alternative?

>>542985610
Darius is a pretty defensive character
He wants to keep them in his disjoints, his massive sweep and huge mediums.
If he has to engage he’s usually reliant on his assists yeah, but you can probably stand to mix in a schizo jump heavy now and then or well spaced dash sweep in

>>542984852
Yeah they werent there last week were they

>>542986470
shocker......the new character that gets released sees play in online tournaments......a week after they get released

Its better than seeing nothing but an amalgamation of yasuo ekko and illaoi

>>542986918
there aint no warwicks and there were like 4 last week with no teemos
The meta will soon be nothing but teemo, prepare yourself

>>542912670
I'm in Gold 1. Should I wait until I start losing to learn combos, or is there a recommended rank?

I wish i could get into this game but i just cant get over it's dogshit fucking roster
boy am i glad they added arcane nigger, arcane dyke, arcane harley quinn, tentacle tranny and fucking BRAUM before characters like lee sin, zed, riven, katarina, samira or jax
dont try to argue with me, im just seething

>>542988454
why would I argue with you, you're right

>>542987232
I take it that your new to the fg comp scene? I promise you that the meta will, and remain, nothing but yasuo and ekko. These players picking up teemo will quickly realise that they can do everything that teemo does but more with either ekko and yasuo and will just go back to them and illaoi because she enables them so much. It will be teams of ekko/yassuo, ekko/illaoi, and yasuo/illaoi with a sprinkle of ahri jinx and darius

>>542988454
Arcane Dyke mogs
btw Riven and Kat and Samira will all get into we wuz noxus arcane next year and be dykeified
Dont expect to like them anymore chuddy league isnt for you anymore

>>542989116
Leffen says teemo is top tier thoughbeit

>>542989554
I think Teemo is top tier too, but if I was a competitive player why would I bother with teemo when I can backdash fullscreen put up a windwall go into stance and zone you better than anything teemo can do? Or why would I play teemo and give up the best special move in the game in timewinder which can control space and zone better than anything teemo can do? Also who is Leffen playing teemo with? It wouldnt happen to be yasuo would it?

>>542988454
You and everybody else, Max is sitting at sub 4k viewers on this game. I'm really not sure what they can do to revive the game, it seems to be fucked.

if they actually end up nerfing the movement because faggots like Max are crying about people backdashing i'll be pissed

>>542990205
>sub 4k
how many does he usually get

>>542983946
>ekko up there with HC
You are unbelievably retarded and terrible at fighting games. Go back to Candy Crush.

>>542986025
Thanks. Btw, some anon said to dash block against Jinx, but when I tried it, it didn’t work. Jump block and jump heavy did. Was that poor execution, or is that just not the right approach?

Only reason I'm bothering even touching this game is because I have a good friend that likes league a lot and he wanted to play with me
Over half of the cast doesn't interest me at all and some characters just disgust me. Only characters I find cool to look at are Ahri, Yasuo, Darius and blonde skin Braum.

>>542994819
Where's the unsubscribe button for this blog?

>the lack of steamcharts has led numbersposters to post Maximilian DOOD's stream history
You guys have a mental illness and deserve to suffer for not keeping it to yourselves.

>>542989937
>uhm teemo isnt worth it to play because yasuo does what he does better
>if you play yasuo with teemo it doesnt count as playing teemo
?
also ekko actually does get zoned out by teemo his timewinder doesnt break mushroom and comes out half
as fast as a rock does

>>542996064
>if you play yasuo with teemo it doesnt count as playing teemo
the point that I was making was that he will just go back to Ekko/Yasuo because they both outclass Teemo in every way, given that he's serious about placements. He's already halfway there with keeping Yasuo on this team
>also ekko actually does get zoned out by teemo
It doesn't matter if Teemo can zone Ekko in that matchup if Ekko can zone with timewinder and get the easiest pickup into all of this bnbs and fucked up oki on everybody else. Timewinder is singlehandedly the best special move in the game, it does everything for Ekko and more. Teemo does not have a special move anywhere near as comparable as timewinder. It can be used to zone vertically, can be thrown from the air to control aerial space, and can be thrown underhand to cover space in front of him and be used in oki situations, all of that, and he gets the best rushdown/mix and big damage. There is no reason to play Teemo if you already play Ekko. Same goes for Yasuo

>>542997376
Teemo's helicopter super is leagues better than Timewinder or literally any other move in the game. Yes, I understand that it is a super, but it's a free neutral win and/or free mix for 1 bar. Acting like Timewinder is some forbidden magic that makes Ekko 50 tiers above every other character is hella dramatic. Yes it's the best non-super move in the game, no it doesn't mean Ekko is unbeatable, yes it should still be nerfed further but not gutted into unusability.

>>542997917
...........why would you write all that babble comparing Teemo's S1 super to Timewinder (a special move) when Ekko has his own S1 super, which literally does the same thing, but more, because if blocked it enables him to keep pressure and still go for mixups...........Its literally a better version of Teemo's S1 super

>>542998279
>but more
disingenuous lying faggot, goodbye

New hot take from SonicFox: they should remove parry from the game and rebalance all kits around its nonexistence.

At witch rank can I say "I'm good at 2xko/fighting games"?

>>542998318
My bad, I didn't realise that Teemo could throw out his S1 super, force you to block it, then hit his S1 super again to force you to block again, call out and assist to cover space for him and go in to continually mix up. My bad, I should have thought before I typed that all out

>press fast attack
>I see the punch going through the enemy model
>I deal no damage
>I get punished instead
Why? Am I supposed to just never press it and stick to medium attacks? Everytime I press a fast one I regret it unless I fight Braum

>>542998465
removing parry would make the game so much more brutal
(but i'd be down for it)

>>542998465
>gay furry cant parry
>makes it my problem
hands OFF my parry bitch
Its my dopamine you deal with it

>>542998737
wtf is this slop
is that orb girl supposed to be ahri

>>543000160
Idk, It appeared on brave when I searched 2xko ranks

>>542999586
Warwick? He's the only one that I've noticed having egregiously different hitboxes than models for light buttons.

>>542997376
>It doesn't matter if Teemo can zone Ekko in that matchup if Ekko can zone with timewinder and get the easiest pickup into all of this bnbs and fucked up oki on everybody else
I agree
it doesnt matter whatsoever that rock loses to paper so long as everyone always picks scissors
Truth explosion as they say

Max has given his verdict and he thinks the game fucking sucks
It's over, 2XKO is done diddily done for, only a matter of time until casuals start leaving en masse

>>543003048
Show me where he said it

>>543003048
He has spent more time playing it than any other fighting game recently
He had fun going up in ranks today, but he's not a fan of the meta of the higher ranks
He never said the game fucking sucks, and you are a lying, pathetic nigger
Have a nice day

Why place the face cam there?

>>542990246
what movement dude movement in this game sucks ass
they need to nerf backdashing, probably by removing the dumbass chaining

>>543008257
dashing back and forward is fun pussy
you just suck at footsies

>>543008251
better question: why are you watching Leffen

>>542990205
>I'm really not sure what they can do to revive the game, it seems to be fucked.
First step is usually admitting there's a problem.
You can't unrelease the current roster, so the least you can do is have the gameplay make up for it
First of all, absolute no-brainer: sweeping nerfs for Yasuo and Ekko. I'm not talking about reducing their combo damage by 10 (lol), you'll actually have to stripe them of mechanics or at least put severe limitations on them
And that's just bare minimum, after that you'll have to go for the crux of the issue and fuck around with system mechanics until you have a solid skeleton to work with.
removing the meme "wavedashing", removing retreating guard, removing parry, tweaking assist cool down and so on and so on...

>if we make the game a shitty clone of street fighter it’ll make way more money trust me
bait

>>543001172
You don't actually play this game do you

It's happening

>>543010180
How do those with the least to say manage to use so many words?

>>543012994
illaoibros....not like this....

>>543012994
is it my time, boys.
is it time for warwick/teemo or illaoi/teemo

I remember when the first few threads of people complaining about backdash spam meta began popping up, they were instantly dismissed and met with ''they're cornering themselves and being in the corner is death that's good for you'' (ipsis litteris)
do those people even play the game? are they above silver? do they even play ranked?
this game does not have fans or players, it has cultists

Backdash spam isn't an issue by itself, no one would complain if only Darius or Braum could do it and even though it's annoying it's understandable that Teemo and Jinx have to lean on that as its part of their archetype
On the other hand Ekko and Yasuo have no business getting anything out of spamming backdash, these characters should have to hold forward the entire match

>>543019349
Imagine if Wolverine and Haggar spent the entire match backdashing and it beat Morrigan and Doom throwing shit at them from fullscreen

>>543019349
newbro
braum and darius spamming backdash in alpha lab 2 was an entire thing
It was so broken when they could do it because they were able to timerscam the game super efficiently and they both got their dashes neutered in the base game because of it
The main issue with Yas and Ekko is just the fact that they can zone with their mobility and it's not just a footsie tool like it should be.
When Jinx and Teemo have such shitty terribad backdashes because they're zoners it makes sense but Yas and Ekko are only barely not zoners so it's kind of ill.
>>543019523
They would eventually die from chip if Jinx and Teemo just got to full pelt the entire match though.
Backdashing in Marvel is also really very strong, it's not that different from tuko. That's where they got the idea.
Also in that game you could just escape two screens into the air if you wanted so i dunno what the comparison here accomplishes

backdashing aint shit
wait till you newfags see the downback airdash
now that shit is real shit

>>543020759
>Backdashing in Marvel is also really very strong
I know that, but what can be done about it and how character archetypes played into it was vastly different

new to fighting games - am i supposed to press every button at the same time?

Like yasuo's unique requires DOWN + RIGHT + HEAVY

but sometimes it comes out as just DOWN HEAVY if I'm trying to press every button at the exact same moment. Am I supposed to consciously think about pressing DOWN RIGHT first and then HEAVY?

sorry this question is retarded. its like trying to write "!" by pressing SHIFT + 1 at the same time vs pressing SHIFT first and then 1

>>543030178
yes you have to press them together
down heavy and down forward heavy are two different moves

there's no sequencing here, it's not like tekken

dead game

>>543030406
is it bc im on keyboard that its fucked? i swear im pressing down right heavy at the same time but its like 50/50 whether the correct moves comes out

>>543012994
>"guys yasuo ekko isnt that strong actually"
actual words written here

>>543031829
not really some play on keyboard with no issue. press them all at the same time

who do I pair with Jinx

>>543008829
t. Silver rank

>>543031975
Pick a better character

>>543033137
I wanna get the Crime City skin and she was my most played character in the beta. I'm in too deep

>>543012994
Jinx could have been #2 or won, but he got scammed by his connection or game being shit and got DQed

im silver and im not finding the game that fun to play lol

>>543033537
Good taste, that is the best skin

I think I'm done with the game until they gut Yasuo and Ekko
Them being in 90% of my ranked matches is just not fun

>>543033730
Are you losing and don't know why?
Try this video and go back to ranked
https://youtu.be/BK8Z56MmtkQ

>>543034287
these videos won't do much for me unless it's very specifically about 2xko, i've played the genre for 16 years

>>543034287
this dumb furry nigga just linked his own video

>>543034575
It won't do shit to you, my bad

>>543035156
for*

I finally know what the point of the lobby is
>waiting for a game in casuals, just started playing ahri jinx double down like five games ago after playing mostly sidekick games
>see some guy talking shit in the lobby, about meta players and the last guy he played
>start baiting him, you mad bro just get gud
>tells me to stay in my lane and starts talking shit
>game queue pops, I'm fighting the shit talker, tell him in chat to stfu and come over and play me
>turns out he's playing teemo blitz, and I zone him out better and beat him 2 games in a row pretty easily
>he quits the set, and doesn't move at all or say anything afterwards
>get bored waiting for him to say something and just start playing other people
>get done with 2 sets against other people and his avatar still hasn't moved from the same spot until eventually I see he quit the lobby
Lmao I bet he threw his controller

>>543034575
>i've played the genre for 16 years
>silver and somehow worse than northenlion

>>543031975
i pair her with yasuo because that's the only other character i like on this gay fucking roster

>>543037151
i think the fact NL had no fundamentals worked in his favor maybe? this is the first fg ive played where there is just functionally 0 neutral

This is my first tag fighter, but a decent amount of Street Fighter experience. Maybe I'm just unc status, but the game moves a little too quick for me to get used to. Anyone experience this same type of culture shock or am I just old?

>>543037491
for me it's not the speed but the blockstrings into assists into 5 hundred crossups that's overwhelming me

>>543037717
That might be it. I still only have a few hours in the game but assists are really fucking me up with all the shit that can be on screen at the same time.

>entire league champion pool available
>pick only basic bitch characters with basic bitch weapons

where is the MAGIC? where are the MAGES?

>>543039124
seriously where the fuck are the mages? Ahri barely counts.

>>543037337
You realize you're not making it better for yourself calling NL a button mashing Timmy right, because you're somehow still worse and you think you know how to press buttons

>>543033730
Do you expect to have more fun at higher levels?
This isn't a trick question