Thread 542757424

FARTICT BLAST Edition

>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/10-02-2025-update.84332/

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/edit
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>542651418

>>542755307
>>542758007
>3 other lanes
I meant 2

First for Paige's slimy, solid, healthy brown logs freshly cut by her ginger curl adorned anus

Calico alternate skin...
WHEN!?

SEX WITH THE DOORMAN!

explain to me why i deserved to lose this one

>>542759258
Because you play Kelvin.

>>542759258
why should people going 3/9, 8/13, 8/14, and 1/9 be rewarded
your team deserved to lose

>>542759258
fucked up the cut.
>mina with 0 objective damage
>>542759391
but why did i deserve to be teamed with them

>>542759258
>hiding obj dmg

>>542755307
those numbers just mean you are irrelevant past lane
your macro is dogshit, or you exclusively play a hero with a dogshit build that does nothing past lane (or can't do anything while even slightly behind)

>>542759495
3k looks bad desu but i finished 2 towers and 1 walker my team refused to

>>542759534
anything else to say? you can very fairly criticize the damage now.

>>542759605
also, those numbers don't mean anything when the matchmaking is wonky. If you get laned against by someone who significantly better than you, you are likely to lose both the lane and the game. The inverse is also true when matched against someone who is worse.

>>542759495
let me explain to you why.

>be haze
>have mo, doorman, infernus and bebop constantly hunting me down and vacuuming my farm
>constant stuns, can't even exist near a team fight without eating wraith, mo or doorman ult and being instantly killed
>BUT BUT I WALK ON ICEPATH AND SPAM ICE LASER THEN WALK AWAY, DIDNT DO BAD, HERES A GRENADE WHILE YOU ARE BEING MO STUNNED INTO WARDEN ROOT WHILE BEING BLASTED BY BEBOP AND INFERNUS

but you didn't fucking help. There was no one to gank with or secure kills.

fuck off cunt

>>542759258
Everyone who solo qs is asking for a loss

>Deadlock Draft

Each team votes on 2 bans
Each time blind picks 2 characters at a time. Same picks ban that character.
Lanes are shuffled.
You must manually go to each lane instead of swapping.

inhouses today when

>>542760592
4 hours

>>542760592
As soon as the seppos wake up so I can host them

>>542760575
>votes

No thanks, either everyone gets one ban or team captain bans

>>542760359
wrong

Flopping tranny deadcock.

I cannot for the life of me get a grasp on mina bullet speed. It always feels so shit.

>>542760645
aww shucks im gonna be busy at those hours :(

>>542760575
>votes
terrible

explain why i deserved to win this one

if mo is so dishonest
why does playing him feel so good

>>542762995
you got carried

>>542763129
why was i carried? isnt it against their interest to help someone who isnt contributing?

>>542758441
>Those tattoos
Sphinx aren't Egyptian ffs. I hate this ugly and dysgenic race also.

>>542763287
But Ava is a Sphinx, and so Calico would be too..

>Mina gives you this look
wyd?

assuming you have only weapon damage (no sources of increased melee damage), is heavy punch always more DPS than shooting?

>>542763547
Get love bite proc’d and seethe under tower

>>542763547
Kelvin is undead, I doubt he has much liquid blood in him.

>>542763547
>teenage vampire brat seduces old man with amnesia

>>542763547
i grope her crotch volgin style to disorient her then ice path away.

>>542763547
unzip

Join the /dlg/ inhouse dsicord to get notified eevry 5 minutes about shitlow opinions on heroes!
discord.gg/4vn9ErPrDJ

>>542758441
Holy shit furfags have no style, no taste and zero imagination, just making everything about themselves

>>542763975
Better a furroid than a niggress.

wewlad

There are some incredible opinions about Deadlock on /v/.

>>542760575
Not enough heroes for that

>>542764239
I do not understand why they don't just play overwatch or marvel rivals.

>>542764239
>opinions on /v/
Immediately discarded

>>542764239
These are the people that go brooling just to feed

>>542764239
>browsing /v/ in two thousands and twenty five

>>542764402
Boss baby movie syndrome

>>542763750
it's all still and chilled, so it probably would do
he's a wight not a skeleton

>>542764603
I unironicly check in from time to time just for porn.

>>542764239
I know it’s a retard posting that, but the game isn’t even out yet along with an already small playerbase
There is absolutely no need to implement the easiest gamemode in addition to splitting the playerbase to make queues longer for useless data

>>542763409
I know and I'm pissed. Cats have dozens of races and are some of the most elegant creatures that ever roamed the earth. Yet they chose a fucking Sphinx for Ava. If Calico is indeed Nubian inspired they should change it to an actual African wildcat. If that's not mystical enough they could just inspire themselves from Bastet's icons and idols or something.

>>542764239
/v/ makes a lot more sense when you realize over 90% of it is indians or south americans who play exclusively gacha games

on topic question, have you played predecessor before and how does it compare to deadcock

>>542763967
I'M SHITLOW, YOU'RE SHITLOW. ARE THERE ANY OTHER SHITLOWS I SHOULD KNOW ABOUT!?

>>542765240
I didn't like Dota 2 because I felt disconnected from the gameplay and it put me to sleep.

>>542765240
Yes and its super dead, I did enjoy it but I enjoy a lot of dead games and its 100% inferior but not bad

>>542763967
>joining any /vg/ community
no thanks bro

Ah yeah, it's inhouse time.

>>542765515
Was this what they were putting in that Sandman Division Christmas Calendar?

>>542765515
black women look like this?

>>542765710
HEE HEE

>>542765837
It's just an anonyminity spell bro.

I had a nightmare last night after taking melatonin that I tried playing shiv again and I fed really hard and everyone in the game flamed and made fun of me

>>542765710
hatsune abramsu skin where

>>542766274
bee boop is da one true migu

>>542766949
>all those Migu skins
>not one for Miku Guinness herself

>>542766140
It's like Being John Malkovich, except you were being me.

>>542765837
Haze isn't black, she is 100% BLACK

>>542766140
The Sandman sends her regards.

>>542765710
Now make her white s48hp

is victor broken?

why can't I win on infernus? tried him again and there was a Yamato running rampant, somehow fed to 43k (2nd most fed was our Shiv at 34k, he was killing more people than Yamato on the midgame) and I felt that my hero was entirely helpless. and she only killed me twice, at the endgame. I'd lose half my healthbar from getting sneezed on by anyone at all though. Do I just need to invest in a lot of greens?

when is this game going to be 'public'?

>>542768213
2 weeks

>>542768213
in a few years. DOTA2 was closed up for a long time as well

>>542768213
2026 if Valve is smart
Never is they aren't

Dota dialogue mogs deadlock dialogue so hard. This is the whole reason deadlock is dying, a lack of character

>>542767039
weebs dont recognize her existance and are too coombrained to remember old yamato voicelines :(

The more interesting question is: When will they release the new batch of heroes?
And the MOST interesting question is: When will they release the VNs?

>>542767947
yeah

So how bad is it if my most relatable hero is Lash?
He made me realize i might be more of an asshole than i thought i was

>>542769349
its worse because at least lashs ego comes from beating the shit out of people successfully, are you good at anything at least

>>542769164
>When will they release the new batch of heroes?
Didn't they just release like 4?
They still need to update like half the game's models, too.

>>542767947
No, he's still just A tier.
There are ~8 heroes stronger than him still.
>Infernus
>Abrams
>Calico
>Kelvin
>Paradox
>Mina
>Pocket
>Billy

>>542769575
Im confident in my skills but that's about it? I might need someone to humble me and kill my ego eventually or i might get so prideful that i'll kill myself if i ever get shut down

why isn't topbar plus just in the game? makes things so much easier from.

>>542769164
Maybe we'll get Boho (a witch) and Venator for Halloween.

>>542769594
>Didn't they just release like 4?
6.

>>542769959
>why doesnt my spoon say vroom vroom when the food is going in, it makes eating the food so much easier

>>542768630
dota doesn't have characters, it has vehicles for puns

>>542770315
Pretty much every single dota hero has more extensive lore than any deadlock hero so that's factually incorrect

Finished Vyper when?!?

Hello, I would like to play the game! :)
How should I accomplish this?

>>542770573
ask a nigga that already is playing the game for an invite over steam

>>542770573
post bussy and link to your steam account

>>542770684
>>542770738
Thanks

bebop was getting upty all game because i was doing other lanes and stealing enemy jungle. so i just started ragebaiting him calling him /6 to /9 until he died when we were taking the patron

>>542767947
no
he’s good but has clear counters and gets melted more easily
He just happens to be a carry AND tank which makes him stand out more

>>542769959
everyone always makes fun of the game's UI for showing too much useful information on it so they've been slowly downgrading it.

>>542770559
i need her snussy so bad, valve please
i need vyper to inject that gas station pill-ass venom into my cog so i can go at her all night like a hog

>>542771454
do you happen to be a goat or the Lash? otherwise you got no chance

>>542771638
Trick question, Lash is the GOAT

But regardless, I'd pay her 50 bucks and a ham sandwich. Vyper will either take it and give me good-good, or stab me 50 times in the chest

Lets be honest for a minute, Valve will shut this dogshit down and in the best case scenario sell it to Riot.

>>542772117
oops meant to post this in /v/

>>542772117
>>542772165
forgot to mention Im trans btw if that matters

>>542772165
>>542772362
Cope harder valvedrone

Is emmy 1 okay?

>4 minute queues
DEADlock

>>542772953
gabe is working with trump to reduce youth employment and improve queue times

>>542773065
do americans even play deadcock?
seems like a eurasian to me

>>542773232
>hes a yurocuck

sorry putin is sending the ruskies to the meat grinder increasing queue times

Begin hosting of Deadlock inhouse for Video Game Generals of 4chan.org

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J4KZ2

I felt like I was very good with victor when he was a true lategame carry and the timings "ok can fight at 30k souls" and "I am god" at 40k souls but I haven't played him once since the patch since there was like 10 minipatches changing him after and I have no idea how he plays now. It seems like no one plays him like a late gamer now and theyre fighting constantly, what are his timings now?

>>542773420
Some idiot griefed the lobby new code

SKG98
SKG98
SKG98

>>542773539
hes played more for midgame, because of the way they changed aura you dont buy spirit res and instead get torment pulse, the core of the build is torment pulse, eshift and trans cd making you come online way faster, you still avoid fighting without your ult but the build makes you do more damage earlier so you can impact the game sooner

why do so many people not shoot troopers, so many games i have like 8k trooper dmg at 6 minutes and my lane "mate" has 2k

>>542773701
I always leaned more towards gun focused hybrid, guess I gotta go spirit

>>542773842
he has been shooting the enemies

>>542773996
we had the same hero damage

>>542772953
still in queue btw
games so fucking dead

>be eternus last year before quitting, muted a few times for arguing with team in the great 'report someone and they get muted' phase
>win 10 games in a row
>use ? against an infernus that keeps fire running into me (I am bebop) on spawn after I hooked him
>he's 0-18
>just kind of bullying him because he's sperging out
>get muted

lmao, you'd think I was just saying nigger nonstop

I have a feeling Deadlock is going to succumb to the RTS curse where the game is literally too difficult for the modern gamer (read: absolute moron) so it stays so niche that eventually everyone knows everyone
you could argue that DOTA is also complex but Deadlock adds on layers on top of that

>>542774731
You were definitely saying nigger non-stop

>>542774731
were you cosplaying Terry A. Davis with nigger/minute?

>be sieben
>backdoor
>get guardians, both shrines, and patron to 1hp
>they send their two strongest, both with ults which they use on me, i still hold them in their base for a solid minute with my ult
>my team loses the 5v4, easiest fight ever, against their weakest players
>whatever, can win, I respawn just in time to save base
>team pings midboss
>we start fighting on blue for some reason, need to get there from sidelane to help, even though it's a retarded play, one we have slim odds of winning
>victor (russian dog 1) and pocket (russian dog 2), decide to go midboss while the entire enemy team is alive, and everyone is getting ready to fight
>we kill most of them, but ultimately lose because it's a 4v6
>pocket and victor busy breaking crates above midboss
>everyone else is dead, 3 enemies are alive
>VICTOR DECIDES TO SOLO MIDBOSS
>POCKET JOINS HIM
>keep pinging and pinging, typing and typing, even use vc to tell them it's a stupid fucking idea, they NEED to leave it alone and go defend base, where minions are raping 2 of our 3 guardians
>throw a bunch of russian slurs at me, including their russian dog teammate numero tres, bebop, who's dead
>LO AND BEHOLD
>as soon as the rejuv starts descending, lash and dynamo descend upon them, oneshot them both with ults, take entire rejuv
>we lose game while the patron I downed solo, is being attacked by minions
>20k obj damage, no one else in team has above 1000
>high damage as well, well above most
>get blamed the entire game
I can't with these fucking state mandated losses.
How the fuck are all these gopniks not rotting in some trench?
Are the ones left playing deadlock the retards they couldn't let near weapons, since there was a higher chance they'd kill themselves and their comrades than the enemy?

>>542774731
Did you really have to remind them what was Lovecraft's cat called?

Currently sitting at 2/12 for the inhouse

SKG98

>>542775119
russians have to sign up voluntarily to get droned
but soon it will change - they are signing a new law that would allow the reservists to participate

>>542775675
Do you accept shitters?

>>542776064
Yes anyone can join

>>542775119
Pressure your govt into sending more weapons to Ukraine, preferable long range ones, to increase the chance of these turbofaggots to get blown up

>>542775963
>>542776160
>Kill russians
Ok vladimir
>Send money to Ukraine
No vladimir

>buy trophy collector and cultist sacrifice
>win
it really do be like that

>>542776852
>Trophy collector

>>542776636
How else are you going to kill russoids and make the playerbase better?
>Send money
Nah, its gonna get ''lost'', send weapons instead

>>542775119
>How the fuck are all these gopniks not rotting in some trench?
Do people actually believe that the entire male population of Russia was sent to the front?

>>542777134
Depends. In some backwater fucknowhere ends of it - yes, but in places where snoniggers actually have access to the internet stable enough to come grief my games - nah.

Why is everyone downplaying Fathom? His stealth and rapid regen is broken

>>542777383
I already buy shadowweave and Fortitude

>>542757424 (OP)
I am going to find a discord or something to 6 stack, it is impossible to climb like this

>>542777415
Russians being cancer in vidya far predates the conflict, /pol/ tourist.

>>542775675
6/12
SKG98

DING DING DING

This place is nice because it shitposts about Russians more than it does about trans people or Indians

>>542777497
CICLOPE
MI REY
MI CABRA

>>542777415
Try harder Ivan. Regionlock can't come soon enough

>>542777805
>*knockdowns you*

>>542776852
tales from seeker

>>542777902
Only because brownoids play games with lolis exclusively.
>>542777709
Counterspell

>>542778251
I’m brown, and I’ve played this game for 1000+ hours thougheverbeit

>>542777497
>0/9 Mina
Yup, a classic

>>542778251
Counterspell doesn't work against The Lobby's ultimate

>>542778251
>Only because brownoids play games with lolis exclusively.
wtf i'm a based brownoid now?

>>542778453
Brown card denied, you can get a real job now
>>542778512
Brown card granted, your poo i in the loo

>>542777707
Sure, but it's a great example.

>>542778076
>Ivan
Hans, but nice try.

>>542778496
You know what 100% does? Jumping into the air and sending the cunt to Baroness
Ding. Ding. Ding.

Need 3 more rambunctious little bucks for the inhouse
SKG98

I could have finished a match while waiting here and doing nothing

>>542779278
1 spot left

>>542774731
Reporting has always been broken. You can just spam reports as a group to get niggas muted.

Just make a smurf next time like the rest of us.

>metro is a gay german furfag
Why am I not surprised?

>feel like playing Abrams
>run in
>teammates run away
now I remember why I stopped playing Abrams

>>542780283
He's a furry?

>>542780452
Yes, and a literal faggot.

>>542770559
What would lash even do if he found Vyper in his house?

How do I deal damage as Shiv?

>>542781951
Motherfucker it's in the name

>>542782013
But his fucking knives deal no damage even when I build spirit and extra charges.

>>542782126
you are not understanding the point of knives, knives themselves dont do all the damage, knives build rage which makes your 2 and ult do more damage

>>542782220
So I'm not supposed to fight without rage?
Poke with knives to get rage then hit with 2?

>>542782506
sometimes you need to fight without rage but when he really shines is when your rage is full, having knives lets you build/maintain them before a fight starts but everything you do against an enemy will build and maintain it, so items like decay let you do it as well, cold front/torment pulse all of this stuff works as well, though most builds you will not be buying all of this together, watch someone good at shiv to learn what to do

>>542780630
>>542780452
>>542780283
You forgot that he's also a literal aimbotter who runs multiple cheat mods.

Played like absolute ASS as Billy. Thanks for the game.

>>542784208
I was Lash and I was barely there. GG.

>run at you mcginnis needs too many items at once, completely locked out by flex slots
shame, was funny running down lash with it.

inhouse doko

>watching old eternus vids from last year
>they're worse than the average alchemist these days
Holy fuck...
What is this gameplay going to look like in another year?
GunZ?!?

>>542786328
I done been saying this, all these nerds dickriding unemployed cunts playing this 12 hours ago really think theres something special about our current crop of eternus players

>>542780376
Just kill the enemy yourself

Thanks for the Inhouse friends.

Got 6 slots in the inhouse again. Sorry about the one guy I had to kick because somebody shuffled, we have room for you now though

SKG98

To anyone who's good at Mirage or Billy salute you. Thank you for having me.

>>542786328
I will win any gunz 1v1

>>542786328
Shilling your game here of all places?

>>542784538
SKG98

>>542788350
Hello zoom zoom

>>542786328
it won't because they remove cool movement whenever it's discovered

>>542786328
any clips of high level players?

>literal children in this thread don't know what GunZ is
Uh...

>>542759258
Mina on team = deserved loss

>>542762995
no mina on team = win

>>542763030
Because he’s braindead in a way that allows you to just fuck around and have fun
Whenever I play maurice and krilliam I can just buy magic carpet and go missile mode at some guy to stun him for 5s straight

>>542786328
Pls no. I'm too old for GunZ gameplay.

JOIN JOIN JOIN

SKG98
SKG98
SKG98
SKG98

INHOUSE 8/12 FILLED

when they aren't braindead i actually like laning with billy players
they're aggressive and draw aggro so i can get clean shots on the enemy and we end up putting a ton of pressure on them

>>542788675
https://youtu.be/Tl5PDKsxaPs

>>542789145
>no handcam

>>542789273
Don't need one.
They look like they're typing an essay at 150 wpm.

Eh. Game is unplayable right now. If either of le ebin negroes that shoot fast get fed, the game is practically over because no one buys curse.

>>542789383
Its actually 145bpm, I know becayse i would make hardstyle playlist with this bpm to help stay in rhythm while playing

>>542786328
This game is coming back btw https://store.steampowered.com/app/3139440/GunZ_The_Duel/

>>542789145
damn pretty cool, they should revert the stamina dash nerf.

JOIN THE INHOUSE NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

SKG98
SKG98
SKG98
SKG98
SKG98

9/12

>>542789790
What they really would need to do is give parry no cd so you can use it to animation cancel

>>542786328
You never know how good you had it until it goes away
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MmBvaGD-IU
Now I want a no stamina gamemode to go Gunz the Duel fast.

>>542790584
does dash give Invuln. frames? I can never tell on my end, if it doesn't they could just up everyones stamina too.

ONLY 2 FUCKING SLOTS LEFT JOIN NOW

SKG98
SKG98
SKG98
SKG98

10/12 INHOUSE

Need just 2 more fellows

SKG98
SKG98

>>542790769
no i want an item that gives you infinite stamina if you are bellow 50% health for a short while.

>>542791327
sounds fun

A SINGULAR SMELLA NEEDED TO START THE INHOUSE

SKG98
SKG98
SKG98

JOIN UP AND OIL UP

>>542757424 (OP)
>It's another episode of my stupid brown subhuman ape teammate failing to play the most brain damaged m1gger hero by refusing to buy even a sincle defensive item and getting hooked by bepop at every oportunity.
Ascendant 5 here, when do they stop running reruns of this shit, Im nearing 1000 hours.

>>542791169
Idk but the reason gunz is so crazy is the block animation cancels everything

>>542791563
sorry, mom mom arrived, cant play right now. my bad

ONE PLAYER NEEDED FOR HTE INHOUSE JOIN IN

SKG98
SKG98
SKG98
SKG98

11/12

>>542788569
>all movement nerfs reverted
>dash gives iframes against M1
>HMC enabled
Will this improve or ruin the game?

>>542792208
shan't

>>542791897
Why do you accuse everyone you do not like of being minorities? Do you even hear yourself you sound like a mouthbreather

>>542765710
If there's no Smooth Criminal skin for Mo or for Wraith I am going to KILL Icefraud and Hoopoo.

Cheap items should not give flat dmg, it just ends up being very samey, oh looks like im building mystic shot coldfront again even tho it barely synergies with my hero

Im also not a huge fan of diminishing returns kicking in at 9.6k souls, because after you have all 3 categories at this level you are definitely scaled into late game and just build more gun after

>>542791897
Even in the e6 and proscene you have retards disrespecting greens, it never stops, at least not yet

>>542766140
I had a melatonin dream where I was playing mina and somehow got 2 million souls but I couldn't find any of the items I normally build in the shop so I was just sitting there looking for them while my team was losing every lane objective

>play deadlock
>whichever team loses 2 players in the midgame donates midboss to enemy
>whichever team takes midboss takes patron
>whichever team takes patron first wins match
wonder how the next one will go!!!!!!

>>542793429
play victor and run midboss and win the 4v6

>>542793429
You're playing a game in an unfinished state and complaining that it's stale

>>542793429
>play chess
>whichever player kills the king wins the match
Wow, 2k yo game, still zero variability in the objective

>>542792208
Did you get one, friend?

>>542780881
>Legs
Holy dogshit

>Play Deadlock
>Game is decided only in MY laning phase
>The other two lanes matter less than 25%

>>542794509
if the lobby average skill is lower than yours then you have to carry

>>542793429
I agree. Midboss is way too strong.

once they rework the bases and every game turns into a 50+ minute siege you'll be begging for these fast games back

>>542794509
Something's wrong with your playstyle. It says I got a 53% winrate on losing/draw lanes. Maybe you aren't adapting enough? Although I don't put much faith in Statlocker since it misses so many games

>enemy dynamo/lash
>they ult 4+ people and they all die instantly
>I try playing dynamo/lash
>they survive with over half health because team does no damage or just simply runs away

>>542795029
lash ult them into the walker bro!

>>542793429
I wish deadlock games took an hour and we could all just click on the silly npcs and on one lost because a team mate got caught but I won in the end after filling my slots with tier 4 items :)

it is way too easy to tower dive in this game

>>542794958
Then why is my lane winning win rate 76%?

>>542796015
if its so easy why dont you do it


dont tell me this is a post from someone butthurt they lose lane and got dove and killed?

Need 1 more person for the inhouse

Do not start with 11/12 :)

SKG98

>>542796193
Can I play Kelvin?

>>542796015
I don't get why when I try to tower dive I take like 800 dps but when they tower dive they take like 0 dps
I feel like there's a strat I don't know about where they can drop tower aggro

>>542796243
yes but don't get angry if someone calls you gay

>>542796150
>implying
i do tower dive. its retardedly easy to do so. baiting a walker stomp or just parrying a guardian is retard proof

>>542796282
sure you do, all the time

>>542796279
buy monster rounds if you're going to tower dive.

>>542796243
Play whoever the fuck you want man

>>542796360
does that really work
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck broooooooooooo

So if they do add a team death match and free-for-all mode, how many souls will each player be given to make builds in-between deaths? I think 30k might be a good power level.

>>542796725
if they're gonna make a dumbed down game mode it's very likely they won't even have items.

>>542797071
Paladins had a fine tdm mode with Item Buying and those people had no money and were developing on the crustiest engine imaginable

feels good laning with a bro who can clean up kills in the early game and push with you at end game

>>542794192
sorry to be the devils advocate in the room but I think the team who doesn't have midboss should still have a semblance of a realistic defense to work with that isn't just "let them take shrines and drop because fighting any second before respawners is entirely pointless"

deadlock's meepo should be a separate gamemode where you play 1v1 and you both control all 6 heroes

>>542797071
The leak said it would be round based so I could see a counterstrike style eco

give me a good lash build NOW

New deadlock worldle game where they snapshot a random live game and you try to guess which hero based off the items bought

https://www.lockle.app

Can you guys get out of here and move into the queue? I'm tired of waiting

>Paige getting banned in Night Shift draft
The pro scene really is just directly downstream from lower elo trends

>>542798702
Its time for gunlash, yoshi has made it clear that spirit lash will be nerfed every patch until the sun burns out

I would reccomend copy pasting the gun doorman build

How do i get better at teamfights ( The only thing that matters )?

Why did everyone leave bros

Inhouse up?

>>542799062
buy knockdown

>>542799098
Gun Abrams is hard

>>542799098
Because I can't play with this ping.

>>542799098
name one moba that is friendly to beginners and doesn't have a toxic community

>>542792791
>dO yoU evEN heAR...
Keep you cunt mouth shut you fucking homosexual, you have nothing of value to say to anyone on here.

>>542799101
SKG98
>>542799162
More than half the lobby is at that ping though...
>>542799142
You can learn

>>542799062
you ask what is my job
>if it's to kill, who do i need to kill
>if it's to tank, who do i need to piss off to create space
>if it's to support, who do i need to help save during a fight
that will get you 90% of the way there. the other 10% is just trying to be coordinated with your team and be on the same page as them (e.g. they try to burst someone down, focus on that person too rather than running off and doing your own thing in the backline. unless you're creating a ton of space by doing that, then yea go for it)

>>542799205
leagye

>>542798868
it was a counter ban to a character that gave them a hard time last game.
same with the doorman ban.

nj killing the inhouse

>>542799269
every league player i know talks about league like it's their abusive ex that they can't get over and keep going back to

>>542799062
The secret to winning everyteam fight is building ricochet+inhibitor

>>542799205
HotS

>>542799259
What do i do if i play Vindicta or Talon?
I always get hard focused or can't get a line of sight on the fight.

>>542799370
because the cool thing to do is to hate whatever game you're playing and say it's the worst and you wanna die
the majority of people enjoy the games they play. it's the same with league. idt i've ever met a single person either online or irl who plays league and doesn't have a ton of fun with it. it's only the absolute most retarded bottom feeders who are assassin mains and afk if something goes wrong
(note: this rule does not apply to destiny players)

>>542799098
because not only was there no shuffle after a stomp, the niggas played meta builds on heroes like mina

>>542799642
One guy made you leave?

>>542799370
league is fun and if they didn't have fun they wouldn't play it

>>542799476
that's moreso just learning how to play vindicta or gt. you wanna stay close to your team (even when hovering) so that they can help you if you get jumped. if they don't help, then either buy defensive or accept that you're solo queueing and thus playing a very vulnerable sniper carry will just get you hard fucked most games. as for the line of sight, well, idk. time your hovers properly

Inhouse lobby is DEAD

this general has a lot to learn about hosting inhouses. better pick up the pace before it permanently stains. lolg has it figured out

>>542799872
it was me. I did it.

>>542799098
they need to hit the emergency big red button that is releasing a white (race) pink themed support/healer character

>>542800007
Pick up the pace?

>>542799713
just one example
there was also yamato and mcniggus not running meme builds who got fed out of lane with cc lash

>pick mina in inhouses
>ruins the entire thing and nobody wants to play anymore
my bad

>>542800131
>there was also yamato and mcniggus not running meme builds who got fed out of lane with cc lash
>Richochet Split Shot McGinnis is not a meme
McGinnis itself is a grief pick no way that's causing you to seethe kek

>>542800127
as in, figure it out before everybody detests the idea of inhouses

Who *is* the strongest hero without any items? At 0 boons? At max boons?

>>542799098
people can't help themselves and deliberately stack amber hand because they don't win their soloQ games.

>>542800441
mina
dynamo

>>542800217
The polite move would be to play green mina

>>542800441
kind of difficult to answer because lanes are always 2v2, and different lanes are stronger for different heroes, for instance pocket and lash suck balls mid

If I had to choose its probably yamato, alt fire + power slash or even crimson slash is very strong in a 1v1 but knowing this you wouldnt contest her on the first wave

>>542800456
The only other high ranked player in the lobby was on the other team I don't know how you can balance it any further than what it already was

>>542800607
is escalating exposure good on spiritsplosion mina as well
one of my buddies told me to get it but the le build guide I'm using doesn't have it on there

>>542800328
>wow I bought ricochet, splitshot after tesla bullets and cultist, it is le meme
lol
you can say im a crybaby or whatever, but stacking and not shuffling killed the inhouse

mina was the only hero out of the 6 i really gelled with and it's gonna be a damn shame that she's gonna be kept permanently weak and in the shithouse because low elo shitters decided to make her THE character to cry about
>WAHHHH SHE'S SO OP EVEN AFTER HEAVY NERFS
>45% winrates or lower
>48% winrate at the absolute highest rank
lol

>>542800737
no, EE is basically a waste of gold on almost anyone right now except in late game scenarios, there will always be better choices

>>542799062
>>542799259
this. this more than anything
i started actually having better and more fun games when i started focusing on my role in the match and just making sure it happened.

>>542799098
>no rewards or challenges to keep players engaged

>>542800217
You did that yesterday too

>>542800759
Nobody stacked the teams it's all in your head

>>542800689
The issue was that you didn't put both high elo players against each other so people are not getting fed as much. Then again, I'm not a sweat during inhouses and I play extremely casually testing dumb builds as to not ruin the lobby like what transpired earlier.

>>542800974
>zoomers will gravitate to rivals if you dont give them a battle pass to grind

grim

>>542799269
I tried to get into League not long ago and then bounced off it as 90% of my deaths were to someone teleporting on top of me and bursting me down instantly in a way I couldn't possibly predict and every single team fight was completely unreadable

>>542801105
He was against me in the first game and my team fed him like 8 times. Their team still lost though

>>542801162
him saying league is retarded, it has a way bigger smurfing problem than dota and theres tons of "game knowledge check!" characters that win the game after you die once too them.

>>542800837
what are effects of these heavy nerfs? i don't play her but she looks like she has a nice competitive early game.

>>542801162
>i started playing a new moba and didn't know what any of the characters or items did
>wtf a bunch of stuff happened that i didn't know would happen? wtf wtf???
did you graduate school

>>542801228
who are the high elo people?

>>542801132
doesn't even need to be a battle pass, overwatch and counter strike players have convinced themselves that their glorified casinos is okay

>>542801379
Myself and Laasti (in that lobby anyways)

>>542800837
>nerfs
Mina has recieved nothing but buffs since her release

>>542801294
they nerfed her blowing up objectives with her ult

>>542801294
she DOES have a good early game. that is her only strong point, her lane. after 10 minutes she becomes useless

>>542801408
What rank are both of you?

>>542801045
>game 1 was a stomp
>insta-queued the next game with same teams
>on the same cancer heroes
negro

>>542801487
... and other things people who buy escalating exposure(seeker btw) on mina say

>>542801565
initiate 6

>>542801487
retard

>>542801458
...are you retarded? what do you think mina's last changes were (on top of the spirit item changes)

>>542801321
Are you alright?

>>542801565
Laasti was Ascendant 6 - Eternus with the old rank system, same as me currently

What are some essential Deadlock mods?

>>542801321
you heavily overestimate the competency of the average gamer
even fighting games have realized they need to add "modern controls" to appeal to casuals who just want to pick up the game and play as the cool guy they saw in a trailer once
and with their sales increasing because of it
and their sales increasing demonstrates it's working

>>542801636
>>542801641
cry more about how you lost to a 45% winrate hero

What could I have done better bros

>>542801825
I play mina you dildo, Im just not a fucking shitter

>>542801847
>mina on team
>lose
State mandated loss, go next

>>542801725
Thicc smoke V4(Haze skin)

>>542801847
should have carried. its your fault for queueing solo.

>>542801725
Female Drifter mod

>>542801825
mina gets picked or banned in every tournament fuck your stupid aggregate win rate
her win rate is only low because of shit waifu fighter players like yourself

Hitler was right
Putin is right

>>542801847
Nothing it's a team game, accept that you're only here to add value to a team not win the game by yourself.

>>542802279
haha woops wouldnt it be peculiar if they volunteered for the front lines haha

>>542801847
Use coms. You still lost because you're not playing with your team properly.

>>542801487
doesn't that mean you're just failing to snowball out of lane? she looks okay on paper to me, athough i've never seen her carry my games (i'm shitwater 1 elo btw)

bebop is actually useless if you don't already have a competent team. and if you do already have a competent team, you'd be better off playing a hero that isn't useless in the first place and win even harder. bebop uniquely relies entirely on his team or objectives to do anything. none of the other utility heros are this helpless by themselves

>>542801847
Not enough greens +no Escalating exposure

I've seen enough Yoshi, more buffs for Shiv and Kelvin, they desperately need it

>>542802736
wow what a buff kevin got, he lost a bunch of gun and got .2 whole ass extra spirit growth on boon

did the rank adjustment start to kill the game wtf, queue times take fucking forever now.

>>542799142
I've played gunbrams nonstop and it feels so much weaker compared to gun+melee. Not sure if its the build issue or the hero issue

>>542802252
>>542802736
>pick Mina
>lose

>>542803016
i was psyoped by influencers into running spirit siphon abams

>>542802586
no. she doesn't have tools to snowball. she gets outscaled immediately

>>542802884
>Kelvin: Base bullet damage reduced from 18.9 to 17.8
>Kelvin: Clip size reduced from 15 to 14
Wow, how will he ever recover? Guess he needs some buffs then

So how do we feel?
>>542803016
The correct term for Gun Abrams is Gaybrams

>>542803136
Oh hell nah, spirit Abrams is braindead boring

>>542802925
works on my machine
im driftwood -1 rank btw, hbu?

>>542802736
>superior duration on Geist
Explain? Surely NOT just for her 2 without even healing booster

>>542802252
ah yes because this is the only moba in the world and we don't have HUNDREDS of examples of heroes or champions in other games constantly being pick/ban at a pro level and yet having dogshit winrates both at the casual and pro level. no sir!
you must seriously be mentally retarded lol

>>542802279
Out of Ukraine Hitler only wanted to colonize Crimea, which at the time was mostly Tatar anyway, not Russian or Ukrainian. Tatars were also already being ethnically cleansed from Crimea by Stalin

>>542803218
I like capacitor a lot but I feel like its just not a good buy most of the time. disabling visc's cube is never not funny

>>542803218
4 because it is kind of retarded that this builds from tesla into a T4 instead of being an stand-alone T3

>>542802252
>>542803317
also
>tournaments
yea lol wow these streamers who are trying to go pro in a game that's in alpha are definitely the #1 source of knowledge instead of actual statistics. i will worship their feet and believe everything they say
kek

>>542803317
>>542803085
really hit the deep vein with this one
stop blaming the character when you lose

>>542803218
needs a redesign.
invalidates too many things without increasing the amount of fun in the game.

>>542803409
Stalin was based, fuck ethnonationalism.

>>542803468
and yet you blame the character when you lose?

>>542803085
mina losing doesn't mean she's weak
picking mina or having her on your team places a divine curse upon you that causes your loss, see >>542801847

Turns out i'm not that bad at Deadlock!
I was just playing Drifter.

>>542803468
>its a commieboo

No wonder its nothing but cringe bootlicking takes

>>542803315
Look at his items anonymous

>>542803218
absolute bullshit if the enemy knows how to use it
also straight up deletes Seven from the game
kinda funny how an electric item is his biggest counter

>>542803726
Looks like a terrible mirage build

Why do people even play geist?

>>542803218
I'm just glad people rarely buy it against me playing viscous. even at phantom.

>>542803892
I am really interested to see what Mirages are building Radiant Regen, Spellslinger and Berserker

>>542803892
she has good abilities

>>542803457
Not to speak on the Mina thing but it's kind of crazy how people are ALREADY worshipping all these streamers who play in what amounts to /dlg/ inhouses and taking their word as gospel.

>>542804027
All those are debatably good on mirage except maybe berserker

>>542803721
average schizophrenic take

>>542804339
>Spellslinger
>On a hero with extremely long CDs and nothing he can spam to trigger it
???

so is mina op or not
I need to know if it’s honorable to play her

>>542804358
Its obvious he linked the wrong post

This game badly needs wards or a bigger map.

>Cowboy boots
>Leather jacket
>Pompadour
>Sideburns
>Fingerless gloves
>Popped collar

Did this dude literally just google "cool guy" and pick out the first 5 stock photo images he saw?

>>542804541
Both.

>>542802736
>kevin playing fagpport
kek

>>542804462
she's dogshit but it's still not honorable because she replaced shiv as the new low elo boogeyman
>inb4 WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SHIV IS SO BROKEN
he got gutted and hasn't been the same for a fucking long ass time. stop pretending as if he's still a terrorist

at what level does the game start to get interactable ?
every game people only harass with safe spells from a safe distance. If you dive their tower THEY run away. Everyone buys cultist and just hits creeps all game. no one wants to fight unless they've got man advantage and rejuv and even then fights are just everyone casting all their spells on the first person to hang their ass out.
Every game I hit creeps and then I get mobbed or mob someone, it's so boring.

>>542803431
>>542803928
you are my target

>>542804414
>and nothing he can spam to trigger it
scarabs, each one gives a stack

>>542804414
Pretty sure just applying a stack of djnn mark triggers it but I have not checked in forever

can the tranny who made deadlock wordle change it to low rank games? who the fuck wants to guess people who buy the same general items.

>>542804640
Great. Good thing it's only got a 40 second cooldown

>>542804595
>big orc looking guy wields an axe
>call him Axe
>guy who hates magic and revolves around anti-magic spells
>call him anti-mage
did you think valve were creative and original with their designs, or...?

>>542804626
>The gameplay loop is not fun
then don't play

>>542804614
that’s ok

>>542804778
it's 22 seconds cooldown you goddamn mouthbreather

>>542804637
don't worry I'll phantom strike you in return.

Does anyone have that really bitcrushed video of mirage screaming for the djinn as loud as fucking possible.

>>542804805
what should they name the guy who has a global silence as his ult

>>542804626
If you're talking about lane, the theory is that you must push waves faster against passive laners and then chip at their guardian and their health with your wave.
In practice some characters can nuke waves way too soon and some MUs are unwinnable, but what described above generally applies.

If you're talking about mid game, that's just the game.
Atm the movement and the catch abilities of some occultists are just too overtuned and the game hasn't found a way to stop every fight from devolving into brools in 20 sec.

>>542804998
um... Nathan :)

>>542805128
nortrom :)

>>542804998
Derrick

i am happy valve are trying to curb this movement autism the game was creeping towards. i don't want this shit to turn into fucking apex. it's a moba

>>542805303
it's deadlock and it has movement
back to dota old man

>>542805406
icefrog is gonna keep nerfing it to the ground because he's also just a mobafag instead of a twitchy shooter fag. enjoy

The black wοman οf Valve unοriginality.
These are TWΟ different characters.

>>542804998
guess what the name of the greatest mage that ever existed is

>>542804998
ramakrishnayamrungu

deathybros our guy just got embarrassed bigtime...

>>542805406
The issue is that movement works in Apex and shooters because unlike MOBAs characters in movement shooters generally don't have "Fuck u, ur not playing" point and click abilities like in MOBAs.
All that movement kinda fucks the MOBA mechanics.

>>542805406
yes, but infinite walljumps that preserve momentum led to some dumb speedrunner shit where you could cross the entire map in like 15 seconds with no items

>>542805303
>Remove the soul out of the movement of this game
The moment they nerfed the momentum you got from HMC was the start of a downfall

>>542804541
wards and courier would be nice

The "bwomp" sound when you wall jump makes Deadlock movement 10x better than every other game on the market alone

>>542805760
movement is fun therefore the game should have movement

>>542803457
>people who play the game 16 hours a day are better at it than everyone else

>just saw eskay's face
i had my doubts but yeeeeowch

>>542806002
>16 hours gameplay per day
>still ban out a guaranteeded loss champion
Are they stupid

>>542806170
self awareness is literally free

>>542805897
dude, shop is always like 20 seconds away, lane lines exist as well
unless deadlocks map got like x3 bigger there is no need for courier

>>542806170
Yes, most are just brute forcing the wins through mechanics and hours played

the only thing i'd truly like (aside from removing bebop from the game) is a shop ui rework. it's such a cluttered mess

>>542806568
let me reorder the items in the tabs

what characters allow me to hold left click to win

>>542806376
>people are winning the game through being good at the game and playing the game

>>542806568
it sure is amazing that the shop rework a few months ago made everything worse.
i still refuse to use the shop UI and just make builds with all the items i want on it.

>want to play a meme build
>wraith in opposing lane
At what point do you accept you're either feeding like crazy for the first half of the /entire game or running an actual build?

>>542806714
Install aimbot and play haze
You will still lose btw

are the inhouses still up?

>>542806669
i agree
this is my proposed shop rework

>>542806714
Haze, Nigfernus, Ivy, Vyper, Wraith, Seven

what else should I change for my mo build?
It feels like I need more catch CC so I might build slowing hex or knockdown instead of quicksilver.

>McGinnis complains about his lane partner wraith on the very first creep wave about sitting too far back
>wraith tells McGinnis they can't duel the enemy lame so just play safe
>McGinnis gets mad and throws the game

>paradox gets mad at lane partner drifter for not helping and abandons

>someone asks haze to swap lanes
>haze says she's muting him and everyone else
>haze then gets mad and afk farms the entire game

What the fuck happened to matchmaking

>>542807039
mystic burst after tier 2 scorn for even more healing
do not upgrade it to tankbuster tho, it'll stop procing no matter what

>>542806913
KEK
Thats some dedication for a single joke in this general

>>542807250
um

redpill me on gun paige

>>542807039
Your warpstone? It's personally better than phantom strike since it gives you vertical mobility in burrow and it's duration lasts for half of the cooldown with superior CD and superior DR (basically a free bullet res for half of the time)
Also transcendant cooldown makes torment pulse tick extremely fast so you should go for it earlier
Mercurial magnum is a meme on mo and krill and you would rather sell your qsr in late game for some green items

>>542807475
don't

>>542807475
>playing paige at all
Ring of repick NOW

>>542807475
very bad now

>>542807039
For Mo you should try the following as your starting items

>tier 1 reach
>mystic burst
>qsr
>arcane surge
And I'd replace phantom strike with carpet for more ability duration, with the move speed from your other items you'd be able to catch people really easily
>t. Ass scented 4 if that matters

>>542759605
>can't do anything while even slightly behind
Anon, thats just deadlock.

>>542796102
because your opponens are like you and don't adapt?

>>542807505
I'd argue that warp stone and phantom strike in the same build is fine for Mo, because some games you're against really slippery shits that you just need to be right on top of immediately (like Mina) as well as needing the warp stone for general mobility. If I had to choose one though I'd definitely go for warp

>>542798728
>first item: cold front
>guess Pocket
>You won!
lol

>>542807732
yeah
if you want a real meme build go melee
her heavy melee scales with spirit

>>542807475
>Paige gun deals massive amounts of damage with large hitbox, but it's offset by incredibly low projectile speed
>Building gun items offsets that
Also split shot is broken with qualities of her bookgun

>>542808179
>but it's offset by incredibly low projectile speed
*and can't headshot

>lost 8 games in a row on infernus
>stopped building spirit and start going straight gun and green
>start winning by landslides

Damn and I thought I would enjoy something different from the usual m1 carry but here we are.

It's a "McGinnis buys Trophy Collector over Tesla Bullet episode"

>>542804969
https://files.catbox.moe/0vz8un.mp4

>>542808310
>start going straight gun and green
>start winning by landslides
congrats anon, you figured out how to win the majority of deadlock.

>>542808170
I love punch paige
knockdown guarantees 3 which guarantees 1 and lets you punch

>enemy buys plated armor
>can counter it with armor piercing rounds

>enemy buys spellbreaker
>??????

>>542808650
its easy
you proc it with your weaker spells (for example flog as lashey)

>>542808650
You buy arctic blast and use arctic blast to remove their spellbreaker passive since it does exactly enough damage on a spirit build.

>>542808650
pick mina

>>542808456
Thank you this is the greatest thing.

>>542808650
>spellbreaker has a cooldown
>plated armor doesn't

>>542805809
And this was fucking great, Valve better bring it back and revert all nerfs to ms and parkour they did. Add wallrun while we're at it.

>>542808921
Gun doesn't have a cooldown either but your spells that proc spellbreaker do.

>>542808650
i though ap round only counter bullet resist not plated armor

>usually stagnate on souls
>just start shoving waves before doing anything else one match
>easiest win ever
>actually topscored on some stats
It's that easy?

>>542808650
you counter it by shooting them

>>542809006
sounds like it's balanced then.

Deathy status:
Washed up

>>542809347
dont forget to hit camps too

the champs that are countered by spellbreaker are op anyway

>sinclair
what is this character
it's like they're not even in the game. are all sinclair players actually bots farming something

>>542809571
I already do that, literally all I changed was just put killing creep wave as my main priority

>>542809557
>when the no scrim team plays against the best team

wooooooooooooooooooooooooow they suck...

>>542809796
i have never lost a single game against sinclair that i didnt go in as mo or any other hero with an actual good ult

>>542808650
echoshard

>>542810004
Only time I lost was when it was a Sinclair/Seven lane. Seven drops his stun, and if you're anywhere but your turret Sinclair gets a free rabbit into double heavy attack.
He got all the kills and rest of the game was him running around at mach speed with a expanded rabbit trick fucking us up

PATCH TOMORROW? *gesticulates wildly*

deathy got absolutely trashed, imagine taking this guy's opinions on the game seriously.

Should i ever bother with Bullet resilience when i'm not a tank who'll be under constant fire?
I saw more success against M1 heroes with metal skin

>>542810346
>*giesticulates wildly*

>>542810346
Yes
Maurice and krilliam nerfs incoming

I'm going to start ignoring lanes pushing in and start fighting. Getting real tired of having to clear lanes while my team brawls and loses. every. single. time.

>>542810889
god her redesign is so fucking shit

>>542811565
congratulations, now you're going to join pointless brawls and fall behind on net worth while losing objectives.
you can't just go full retard in this game with your team like a regular team based shooter, unfortunately.

>>542811654
*raises glowing green paw*
I liked it

>>542811565
I dont know how you guys get stuck in side lane, I always ask people to take them over when I plan to join a fight and they are close, I think a lot of this is not communicating and people assuming a carry in the side lane always wants the farm, because thats how you get strong

>>542811565
>skill issues skill issually the whole game
how could this seven possibly lose

How do you even nerf Kelvin at this point? He can outheal a low HP pool, he can avoid any CC you throw at him by creating terrain, and you can build to compensate any sort of damage nerf you put on him.

>>542811565
Always push lanes

>>542810346
Yes
Mohammad and Kareem buffs incoming

>>542806754
10,000 hours in an alpha does t mean your the best, just the first

>>542811806
a ton of different ways actually

>nerf his gun more
>cut healing on grenade
>cut damage on grenade
>massively increase dome CD
>slow the speed of ice path

he actually has a lot of ways to nerf him reasonably without making him complete shit, unlike victor, the utility baked into his kit alone makes him viable, kind of like dynamo

>>542811806
plenty of ways
>beam loses damage with distance/has to charge up the damage as well as slow
>snowglobe has a health bar
>if ice path loses too many segments it all breaks

>>542811806
nerf his healing

>>542811806
Remove healing from grenades but make beam disarm again.

does shivs gun transexualise itself into a razor or does he pull one out, i never can tell but it lkooks like his gun can fold and shit like those black people knives they like spinning

>>542811565
The problem with this game as it gets rebalanced and developed over and over is that the balance you as a player need to strike between farming and brawling constantly changes

I've found that just playing lane janny and mindlessly pushing objectives doesn't win you games anymore. You need to realise when you should brawl and when you should push.

Real talk is that you should push shrine guardians because it makes you move fast

>>542801725
yamato redesign

Russians are so fucking ass at this game wtf

>>542812367
In the animation his gun is also a giant fucking knife folded into the gun.

Time for another day of playing Billy and Drifter, losing lane to air, buying Cultist and suddenly killing the enemy team

>>542809557
>Melee creeps
>1 melee user
???

Your cat? Is stupid
Your cat? Is ugly
Your dress is ridiculous
Sniping is some coward shit
I hate your stupid hotel
Stupid-ass vampire
Hey Professor.. you're stupid!
Your bar sucks
Magic is dumb

>>542811565
>>542812413
You push lanes until you hit power spikes and then you beat the shit of their team. Then you go back to pushing waves and clear jungle until next big power spike item, or until you catch someone alone. When waves are pushed you catch the person going for it or you fight the team down a person
This is basic moba shit. You fight as soon as you get your big items, before the enemy has a chance to get their big items, then fuck off so they can't get value until you're at an advantage again

>>542815929
why does he say this

>want to practice new heroes
>don't want to risk my rank
:(

>>542816381
that's what INHOUSES are for

>>542816381
Do what this one guy did in my shitlow game and talk about how he's on a smurf to practice Ethereal Shift Victor while getting his ass fucking pushed in and crying all game, while I run him down through his entire team as Billy just to send a message

>>542809292
learn to read

>>542816490
why would I cry about losing if I'm on a smurf?

>go 9-1
>rank up one time
>lose 3 in a row after that thanks to professional mmr assassins
>derank

I guess the trick is to just carry the games yourself.

>>542816474
on that note, inhouse when?

Sinclair really is a horrible hero. 1 is useless without 2. 3 is useless, even with buying items just for it. 4 is situational and if there are no good ults to steal from the enemy team then it's useless.

Why do I keep seeing Cali go invisible with her 2/3 (the stroke)?

>>542817817
it's her ult

>>542792791
Shit up, nigger

>>542817249
That's always been the trick.
My new rank is Ritualist 1 and I'm still forced to carry the game or lose.

>>542817249
>do it yourself
>McGinnis has the damage, kills, and higher KP

>>542817249
>when the carry player realizes he needs to carry to win

>>542818059
Not her ult. Even happens in lanes before they get it.

>>542817817
she bought veil walker

They should make Doorman's ult giga ranged like knockdown

>>542818965
They should make it so he's locked in his utl with you so can beat the shit out of him

>>542818686
see
>>542818623

>>542817249
Being in seeker before the rank change was already embarassingly shitlow, but the fact you're there right now puts you in a position lacking the right to be bitter about teammates

>>542819034
you can buy veil walker before you have ult

>>542819015
>Gets carted into the hole
Nuh uh uh

>>542819068
They don't have VW

>>542819187
then you have glaucoma, I dont know what to tell you

>>542819062
i was on initiate and according to deadlock I am arcanist 2 but they keep putting me in these games for some reason

>>542819015
don't threaten me with a good time

>>542819361
>be an initiate player
>"urg I guess I just have to carry the games myself hmph!"

isn't fury trance a little TOO free for all the characters that actually buy it?
it should disable parry or something too.

>>542820005
Not falling for the Billy agenda

>>542820106
i swear on me mum i've only played billy once and didn't like it.
just trying to think of ways to actually punish people for using fury trance because it's supposed to come with a "downside" to using it.

>whiny cunt on mina constantly pissing and moaning on comms
>pause the game
>ask him if hes going to be like this the entire game
>gives some smart alec answer
>abandon game and enjoy the rest of my night in peace
what is it with mobas that attract the worst type of person

>>542811806
Add actual supports to the game.

You can gigagut every single thing about him to the point of 30% wr soloqueue, but he'll still get picked in any semi serious setting.

>>542820005
not being able to kite is a huge downside wtf else do u want

>>542820562
just mute him retard
>what is it with mobas that attract the worst type of person
because I have to play with people like you

>>542820562
>what is it with mobas that attract the worst type of person
Nobody wants to sit down and waste an hour of their time on a loss so they're gonna be upset if things look like they're going south 10 minutes in.

>>542809292
APR is the PA counter. It's useless otherwise.

>>542820562
you're literally the exact same as him. A whiny cunt

>mina continuously dying in another lane
>her lanemate tells her she can dodge damage from bebop bombs with her blink
>"rly? lol thx"
glad he learned something but goddamn, took an ass beating before being spoonfed there

Rather than being a bitchy nigger on mic just play better
Buy cultist and carry the game fag

>>542821314
kek what rank

There should be an item you can buy that gives you a bonus for having your team muted since you're gonna be at a natural disadvantage without the means to coordinate

>>542821331
>Buy cultist
I HATE FARM METE I HATE FARM META I HATE FARM META I JUST WANNA PLAY THE FUCKING GAME. NOT FUCK OFF FOR 20 MINUTES AND IGNORE EVERYTHING

>>542821314
i'm in phantom and people are still shocked when i tell them you can double jump to dodge abrams ult.

>>542821365
i'm an alch babby but was queueing with my emissary friend

>>542821445
deadlock IS farming man

>>542820562
>this guy who i could mute was annoying me so i ruined the game for the other 10 people
cool

>>542821331
cultist is overbought after the nerf
you need to be able to take advantage of both fire rate and range to make it worth and that just isn't a large amount of the cast

>>542821672
Were getting close to cultists being tolerable. The need to nerf it again so it uninstalls the game if you buy it.

Kelvin decided the outcome of every single match tonight

>>542821878
kelvin has been overpowered forever

>>542821672
>you need to be able to take advantage of both fire rate and range to make it worth
Every fucking character can take advantage of Fire Rate and it gives faster clear speed. There is literally no reason not to get it unless you're support. Even on characters that can barely use it, it adds a lot of strong stats and will pay for itself in like 4 minutes. Its active alone immediately pays off 1/4th the cost. Then you'll have two items to their one

>>542821445
It lets you clear waves and camps faster between your fighting. It's literally a 'free stats' item because the second you get it, you'll get your 'main' damage item soon after anyway and now you have a stat advantage

>>542821878
>even sinclair gets picked once while drifter doesn't
it's beyond over

>>542821314
>>542821478
NTA, Im new to the game on bouncing between Initiate V and Seeker II what other essoteric knowlage I should know?

>>542821878
lashbros.... heyahoyabros... 7bros... vyperbros... mikubros... dynabros... mobobros...

>>542822091
you're really overestimating how many souls it gives you considering it has over a four minute CD
getting two 1600s or a better 3200 will give you faster clear speed than a 3200 item giving you the fire rate of an 800 item

>>542821878
what happened to dynamo
did the gun nerfs really fuck him that hard

>>542821878
who is the schizo that went Sinclair? did he lose?

>>542822091
>Every fucking character can take advantage of Fire Rate
lol, lmao.

>>542821878
>Fanfic meta

crazy how kelvin is my husband and the best character in the game

>>542821878
DEATH TO KELVIN AND ALL KELVIN PLAYERS REEEEEEEE

>>542822091
It's an immediate 900 souls because you're not going to clear hard mobs anyway, and it gives 30% faster clearing, potentially even being the difference between aoe damage breakpoints for camps
You can clear waves and camps in the time it takes most people to just clear a wave. You can counter jungle without risk. Its value is insane. Its stats are all highly in demand
Alternatively it lets you shit on walkers faster after you speed cleared so you can actually kill objectives

There is no comparison for the slot. If you get Cultist, your average SPM goes up 10k minimum if you aren't fucking retarded

>>542822506
Every character that isn't some dogshit support and thus wouldn't buy it in the first place, yes. Every character that bought it before can still buy it now with zero issues

>Queue hard carry
>Don't hard carry
My bad fellas, my meme build is a little whack rn

>queue brooler
>brool
im BROOOLIIIIIING

>>542822646
meant for
>>542822353

>>542822487
unless he is point blank he aint doing any damage with his gun. i only ever get bullied by dynamos during lane phase with squshies

>>542822609
i cannot wait for him to get nerfed into the fucking ground and i don't have to see ginger frozone shitting up my games for a white

>>542822646
It gives you 30% weapon damage against creeps not 30% more damage, and you can get 25% with just 800 cost Monster Rounds

>>542822353
It scales with boons bro. If you somehow can't take advantage of 75 hp, 13% fire rate, better clearing and objectives and it still being a 3200 yellow item, then just buy it as your second item and now its value is almost doubled.

Fury Trance for gun Abrams y/n?

inhouse?

>>542823027
he's been a god for over a year now I don't think it's happening

>>542821878
>shitter friend was bitching about how bad/low impact kelvin was a couple days ago
don't even care about these circlejerk events but the dichotomy is funny.

>>542823082
Your post said nothing. So you don't shoot, don't ever aoe melee, and somehow you can't get value out of a free 900 stimmy the second you get it? I see why you aren't carrying. There isn't an item that does its job better for the same cost, let alone "1600 items", and even then its cost is effectively 2400 instead of 3200 so it still wins out

>>542823115
3200 souls is a massive amount of souls early on that can be spent on much larger upgrades than cultist sac for most characters

>>542823402
I carry because I don't waste money on a neutered item

>>542818337
>i'm below the median and i need to carry

that rank you can literally just afk push lanes and win 70% of your games

>>542823241
it may not be any time soon, but surely at some point this fucking terrorist of a character will get cucked like the rest

>>542823565
>13% FR, 75 HP, 30% damage to mobs and objectives, effectively costs 2400, and it builds out of an item you were likely going to buy anyway so it effectively only a 1600 investment
>durr there's better shit for the same price XDD
Fuck off retard
Name one item that'll snowball your games better

Make it so Kelvin cant parry while using his laser

>>542821497
Is there a difference between alch and emi at this point?

at what point do i rank up and stop having fun

>>542823863
Make it so Kelvin doesnt have pants

when are they going to make an upgrade for suppressor? Hate having to hold it because there's no other good purple fire rate slows.

>>542823983
never

>>542823960
i wouldn't say so, he reports getting the same breed of spergs and people typing in all chat that this is their first moba while calling people tryhard, same as me

>>542823115
For equivalent cost you could buy cold front + monster rounds + close quarters
If I'm on a character who already gets some use out of those items (i.e. basically everyone, but especially characters like Victor and Billy) that's much better clearing potential that lets me quickly farm when I've got some free time vs having to make sure I'm correctly timing the massive cooldown and buff time

>>542823850
character dependent
Torment Pulse
Burst Fire
Fury Trance

>>542824132
>For equivalent cost you could buy cold front + monster rounds + close quarters
For equivalent cost you could just buy Cultist, use its active, buy Close Quarters immediately and you've completely fucking shit on everything you just said in every category while also snowballing your way to actually buying Cold Front if you need it
The active is a souls check and the point of the item is that it lets you counterjungle far fucking faster than a Cold Front every 20 seconds is going to do, and given that literally the entire game is decided by who counterjungles better, it's pretty important. You don't have to time the active as long as you aren't dying on repeat
>especially Victor and Billy
Works on my fucking machine at Ascendant. Buy Cultist on everything and just stop being dogshit

>>542824352
>Torment Pulse
So your logic is centered around play Mo
>Burst Fire
>Fury Trance
Items that scale when you already have stats, independently they don't even remotely match it, are you retarded

>>542824132
This is a beautiful image, thank you for sharing this so I could see it.

>>542824692
Torment Pulse is bought on a lot more characters than M&K, it's pretty clear you don't know much about the game
Fire rate is the best way to scale gun damage what stats are you even talking about

>>542825192
Torment is bought on primarily Mo. It adds value over a long game, yes, but it sure as fuck isn't going to snowball you for shit on any character other than Mo. Name one fucking character you rush Torment first item on other than Mo you disingenuous nigger
>Fire rate is the best way to scale gun damage
The gun damage you don't have yet? The gun damage that, at first item, still takes years to clear camps versus just aoe meleeing the camp in 2 seconds like everyone else? The thing that isn't affected by Fire Rate? The fire rate you're still getting from Cultist at a slightly lower value, in exchange for actually having good clearing stats?

You are so fucking retarded it's not funny

How do you even play Victor?

>>542826535
Walk at them while holding M1 and click Ethereal Shift every time their team looks at you

>>542826535
Hold W

>>542799220
>brings up gays unprompted
lmao you people have deep seated issues. gay shit should not be on your mind so immediately

>>542826702
Lmao you have deep seated issues, people with deep seated issues should not be on your mind so immediately

>>542826535
rush abrams shift

How do you play Deadlock

>>542826535
Just stay on someone's ass and kill them more than they kill you

I'm going to host a bebop only inhouse, would you be interested

>>542827098
First you start a match, then you pause immediately, then the enemy pauses after your pause, then your teammate pauses, then we go down the line of pauses.
Congratulations, you're in a deadlock

>>542827219
I can't play victor because it just looks like he's cooming all over the place when he uses his heal. his design is cool but his animations with him sprinting bent over then jumping up holding his crotch ...

>>542827397
I'm similar but it's because my monkey brain doesn't like flashing lights on the screen constantly and Victor has all these little neon RGB things going on and it hurts my eyes
Otherwise I'd play him

>>542825562
>slightly lower
can't make this shit up

what do I buy like ultra mega lategame fullbuild as mina? I still had headshot booster and cultist at 52k souls
I was thinking focus lens and mystic reverb just because they're extra damage but idk

>ulting as bebop with lightning scroll
>lash is ulting
>they are all stunned when he picks them up and they get dropped out of his grab
>lose the game

This game has so many double edged swords

Is there any better feeling than playing bebop and hooking their m1 carry so your team can dogpile them?

>>542827778
getting hooked as dynamo and pressing 4 to win the game

>>542827526
13% fire rate at the time you buy it vs 10% default + 35%, which is effectively only 17.5% since you get it half the time and you sure as fuck aren't gunning down entire camps in 3.5s with Rapid Fire first item. Then Cultist's buff even quickly scales to 25%+ at second/third item, so it literally matches Burst Fire's average
I like how that was your big argument though. Of everything said. Thanks for showing how much of a nigger you are

The only way to make Drifter playable without overtuning him would be to extend the duration of the "isolated" state and give him +2 stacks per kills regardless of wether they're isolated or not.
Because god damn, he absolutely sucks, unplayable outside of solo queue.

>>542827778
>hook haze
>unstoppable+transfuser
>kills 3
>they take mid
>lose

>>542827924
This game is all solo queue bro. Just shit on them
If you're trying to play him in a competitive setting, give him a good lane opponent and play around him, since he's absolute cancer to play against when fed. He's the pinnacle of jungle-controlling meta bullshit when he's given free reign

>>542827924
Don't care. He has a funny accent so I'm picking him.

what korean is built like this?

>>542827908
You're moving goal posts around like a retard so there is no point in arguing
I never said anything about rushing Torment Pulse, on every character that wants it you get other items first anyway like Enchanter's Barrier, Cold Front, Mystic Shot, QSR, or Improved Spirit
The fact that you think it's relevant to anything to even out Burst Fire's massive fire rate increase to an average is enough to discredit your post to anyone that plays the game, because that is just not how Burst Fire ends up working in real games at all

>>542828265
None of them, they get bullied to death if they weigh more than 10 lbs

>>542828265
me

>>542828042
>This game is all solo queue bro
Heh, doesn't feel like it, i usually play with three friends and looking at Statlocker, most often the ennemy team consists of two premades.
And you can't get fed if the every ennemy have someone on mic ready to hop in the moment they get jumped.

>have been buying arcane surge this entire time
>always wondered how it worked
>think I just need to dash during a jump
>WRONG
>just figured out how to dash jump

huge buff for my spirit drifter

Did they fix arcane surge on victor yet? Shit doesn't work on his 1 or his 3

>>542823983
>2/13/3 Shiv
Did this nigger unplug his xbox controller?

>>542828724
what did he mean by this

>>542828336
Rushing is literally the point of the argument. I'm not moving goalposts, you're being disingenuous. Especially since you're acting like 1600 items matter when the entire point of the discussion is your first big item. The point is what items get the same value at first slot and you said 'hurr Torment'. And even then, once again, Cultist isn't even a 3200 item. It's 2400 minimum with realistically being a 1600 investment since almost everyone gets Monster Rounds anyway
Clearing camps is all about meleeing early on, you genuinely have no idea what you're talking about. I'm a couple games from Eternus and even dropped my winrate. You're talking out your ass, moving goalposts, and just blatantly making shit up. Fire rate doesn't fucking do anything at all when you don't have damage to scale it; you just burn your mag faster and still have to melee camps. Cultist lets you clear camps, Burst Fire does fucking nothing without damage to scale it

>>542828670
>14 second drifter ult

that sucks

>>542828509
Use your mics to comm where enemies are then? Why can only they discuss how to kill you but you can't do the same

>>542829149
>I'm not moving goalposts
>adjusting the cost of Cultist over and over
whatever you say champ
>the entire point of the discussion is your first big item.
The entire point of the discussion is that cultist sac is inefficient for most of the cast

>>542828265
i imagine she's more korean american than south korean

>>542829480
>adjusting the cost over and over
I said all this shit in the beginning. Right away I told you to find me something that's the equivalent. You failed. The point is Cultist adds instant value. It's the equivalent of a 2400 cost item minimum because it immediately gives you 900, on top of stats everyone can use. You gave me dogshit that doesn't scale until multiple items in when the entire point of Cultist is to snowball your money.
>The entire point of the discussion is that cultist sac is inefficient for most of the cast
>most of the cast
>lists items no one in the game gets first except a couple characters
Keep running from the argument like a bitch. Either stand your ground or stop being retarded. Don't pretend like you have an argument while effectively saying nothing and ignoring everything said, except for the most low-hanging fruits you can maybe argue against (which you can't, evidently), and being a passive aggressive faggot on top.
If health, fire rate, and damage to mobs + objectives can in any way be inefficient on your character, you're fucking Alchemist

>Lane partner tells you to freeze the wave while they do a box run
What do you do?