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#6626 - The Obligatory Shitty Equip Support to pair with The Obligatory Shitty Flip Support edition

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Equip related packfiller fatigue

>>542808467
Flipquipshit

Egyptian god support in 3 hours 26 minutes

Pitch me your generic equip card that is playable but also doesn't just summon dudes

Magnets > DM
Jinzo > DM
Toons > DM
BLS > DM

It's tragic to think there are people that can't natively intuit the difference between playing Habakiri as an engine and playing Verte Anaconda as an engine

>>542808778
>BLS
support that isn't a random retrain that just sits there and does nothing after you invested 6 cards to summon it

>>542808943
Dark magician?

>>542808747
It's like snatch steal but that's it. It's just snatch steal.

Is this unplayer sperging again or someone else I haven’t been keeping up with it

full art wonnt ruin Yu-Gi-Oh right?

FULL ART CHADS WON

KNEEL TO US

WE RUN THE GAME NOW

Exhibitionism addict

How would you salvage this set with 25 cards left?

>>542810059
Pendulum archetype

>>542810059
scrap support

>>542810059
more wake cup

>>542810059
It doesn’t need salvaging
Combat Star support is coming anyway

>>542810059
Elemental Burst support

>>542810059
Lunalight support that makes them actually win worlds

>>542809395
Has any meta deck used it since it got unbanned?

>>542810059
Elvennotes alone is enought carry the set. What are you talking about?

>watching pak at locals
>retard says ddd caesar doesn't negate summons
that'll be 45 dollars plus tip

>>542810059
slots 20 to 27 have to be god tier as fuck

>>542811097
It doesn't negate inherent summons, which might be what they were referring to

>>542810059
>Borrel for animefags and DL fags
>Elvennotes for waifufags
>Dorklords for edgy niggas
>DBJH supports
>DBPR indirect supports
>Assault shit for Synchrotards
It will be fine, there's still some nostalgiabait stuff too,

>>542810751
It's called Ban Vanquish Soul

>>542811278
When a Spell/Trap Card, or monster effect, is activated that includes an effect that Special Summons a monster(s) (Quick Effect): You can detach 1 material from this card; negate the activation, and if you do, destroy that card,

>>542809962
Nope.
Overframe, not full art.

>>542811097
he's right though it negates EFFECTS that special summon, not special summons themselves

>>542811417
Yes, but it wouldn't negate something like Cyber Dragon

>>542811417
Yes, this does in fact not negate inherent summons.
Do you think Solemn Judgment can negate Faimena's effect to fuse or something

>>542811097
Retard is correct.
>>542811417
You are retarded.

>>542810059
Is it likely to have another Yummy/K9/Dracotail support?
Last set had 2 cards for each of those archetypes.

>>542811592
>>542811594
why not?

>>542811594
NTA but separating activated and non-activate Special Summons was fucking retarded and needless complexity in an already complex game.
Worst part is with this nitpicking complexity is that most people will only ever encounter it when they either get corrected by a player or encounter the issue in a sim (in which case they would probably think it is a bug). Black Horn of Heaven is a great litmus test for this sort of shit, considering to a layman the card SHOULD work as they think it does, after all you ARE activating an effect that would Special Summon exactly 1 monster when you use "Polymerization"

>>542812003
It's a summoning procedure/condition, not a summon because of an effect.

>>542812160
that makes no sense

Once per turn, when your opponent would Special Summon a monster(s) (Quick Effect): You can banish 2 Dinosaur monsters from your GY; negate the Summon, and if you do, destroy that monster(s).

>>542810059
slots 20-27 will be topologic and slot 51 will be topologic link 6 topologic trojan dragon TRUST

>>542812106
>separating activated and non-activate Special Summons was fucking retarded and needless complexity in an already complex game.
it makes complete sense with how the game's chains work

whats wrong with youtube

slot 20-27 will all have turn 0 quick effect

>>542812589
it's fucked
we can't play the game now

>>542812589
I was thinking it's me problem? Do you also have problems with videos?

Hatless girl.

>>542812731
>>542812589
I'm having the same problem as well.

how did bpro become the worst set of all time? worse than dune even lmao

>>542812285
It makes complete sense once you are fully engaged and absorbed in the ruleset, but it doesn't make it any better. Missing the Timing also "makes complete sense" but its still a frustrating rule for players because much like the distinction between activated/non-activated Special Summoning having different clauses needed to hit them, the only time you encounter them is when your understanding of the game gets challenged and the whole "cards say what they do" suddenly becomes a lot less true when it becomes "cards say what they do, provided you've memorized all the outlier rules as well"

>>542812914
Elvennotes prevents Burst Protocol from being the worst set of all time.

no wonder real people play pokemon instead of this lol

>>542810059
It could be Tri-brigade and Branded/Dogmatika support.
>>542811701
Probably not. This tends to be the cut off mark for those decks.

Remember to thank elf manko

>>542810059
What was the enneacraft support card like that quickplay foolish for Heckin Hands and negate synchro for Killer Cunns?

>>542813476
This one.

>>542813625
I completely ignored this card when it was revealed and didn't even realize it was the indirect support for the Flippends

>>542813081
In fact to double down, Yugioh is downright inconsistent with its logic.
If you Normal Summon a monster, and that Normal Summon gets negated, you do not get to Normal Summon again despite the fact you never got your 1 Normal Summon per turn.
If you activate a Spell with "You can only activate 1 "Name" per turn." and its activation gets negated, you DO get to activate another copy because you never got your activation.
Both negate an action, but functionally do not operate within the same sort of logic. "Negate" in this context means two different things.
Cards can do whatever they want, ignoring rules, except during SOME rules in which the rules override the card text (e.g. You cannot use Monster Reborn on a non-properly Summoned monster, despite Monster Reborn saying you can Special Summon a monster from the GY and nothing on the improperly Summoned monster saying otherwise either).
Yugioh's internal logic is just fucked to learn, mostly because there's no consistency and its all a big adhoc mess formed from random rulings given out over 25 years of gameplay

>>542812914
I don't know why you are trying so hard to make it look like elvennotes isn't at least tier 1.5 especially with moon and baronne legal in the OCG. Even armades price already increased by ten fold and Medius price is already doubled

i'm new and this is the first time i hear about an inherent summon
is there anything else i should know? can i read up on all these obscure terms or whatever somewhere

>>542813925
It makes sense because you don't activate your normal, you use it.

>>542810059
Is the darklord support enough to make the deck playable

>>542814102
Actually you conduct Normal Summons

>>542814021
>can i read up on all these obscure terms or whatever somewhere
Nowhere official and there isn't really some unofficial space for obscure terms either. Yugioh is massive and the only way to encounter a lot of these rulings is to just fall flat on your face and misplay and get called out

>>542812106
I fully believe Horn of Heaven was supposed to be able to negate activated and non-activated summons when it was initially conceived and just got fucked over by the separation later on.

>>542814219
Which is still not activating.

Generally, engines can be understood by how much investment is being put into them. Something like MitsuRyzeal for instance, utilizes both Mitsu and Ryzeal as engines, both Mitsurugi and Ryzeal possessed the ability to bridge into either half and both have applications as starters, extenders and finishers.

Something like Verte on the other hand, is not really considered an engine, people do not consider decks that ran Verte and the Dragoon or DPE package as a "Predaplant" deck as he was incidentally a guy they made with 2 material on board, and functionally, Verte could have simply had the effect of either Dragoon and DPE and basically be identical save for the bricks no longer being played.

Generally, an "engine" deck vs a deck utilizing an engine can be understood as a difference of commitment. A deck uses the Brilliant Fusion engine, a deck uses the Ghostrick engine unless you're spiritually semitic, in which case it's a Ghostrick deck, by comparison a deck is a Fiendsmith deck by way of significant main deck commitment and not solely just something you can make along the way

>>542813925
>>542814102
If your HOPT inherent special summon gets negated, you can attempt that summon again.

>>542814386
thanks

>>542814102
If you negate a Diabellstar's Special Summon you can still use the Special Summon again, despite that not "activating" either.

I wonder Konami is actually trying to encourage Tri-Brigade to use “Fallen of Albaz” support. With how the locks are now set to allow for Lukewurm and Stigmatika dragon to be legal summons on either turn.

Activating a spell and special summoning a monster per its inherent effect are effects intrinsic to a card, while Normal Summoning is a game action not tied to cards, or something.

Ignore the cost, ignore the activation requirements and timing, ignore everything before the semicolon. The actual effect is after the semicolon.

itt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M94ii6MVilw

how can i understand chains better? what starts them?

Game rules check the Normal Summon, but Monster Card checks if it was summoned once per its procedure, and Spell/Trap Card checks if it was activated so card check card, rules check rules

>>542816218
Look at how swordsoul chain blocks.

>>542816320
what

>>542816218
Anything with a colon or semicolon.

Don't know why you retards are trying to make sense of something Konami never made sense of when they started.
Literally just randomly decided stuff works the way it does. It's not some weird internal logic, its just pure unadulterated random bullshit.

>>542816483
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NTt-oT8YR9A&pp=ygUVU3dvcmRzb3VsIG1vIHllIGNvbWJv

>>542810059
>Last set of the year
>Still not shining sarcophagus support
>Might actually have to go through with the bet I made with a friend

Konami, please, there are many firsts in this world that my heart isn't ready for!

>>542816819
i don't understand how chain or even the solemn cards work and you're linking me this shit bro
appreciate the effort but god damn

We need more decks based around chain mechanics in Yu-Gi-Oh!

>>542816817
I'm pretty sure that's the point that's being made

>>542816919
What on Earth did you bet

>>542816952
Look what happens when Mo ye is used as syncrho material and the Swordsoul synchro monster is summoned at the same time.

>>542817113
you have zero social skills man

>>542810059
More Archfiend support that's actually good, for once.

>>542817032
We made two bet's one normal, one sexual

the normal one was if I don't get a Shining Sarcophagus card by the end of the year no matter where it's from she'll teach me spanish for free

the sexual one is if I don't get a Shining Sarcophagus card announced by the end of the year, as in it can be announced this year but releasing next year, is the next time we have sex, she gets to restrain me anyway she wants and until she cums even if I do she's not gonna stop.

I really hope Konami saves me here

>>542816919
It is ok, anon. I also didn't know I enjoyed being treated like an object before I experienced it.

Player 1 activates "Raigeki" (Chain Link 1)
Player 2 activates "Magic Jammer" in response to "Raigeki" by discarding 1 card (Chain Link 2)
Player 1 activates "Seven Tools of the Bandit" in response to "Magic Jammer" by paying 1000 LP (Chain Link 3)

The Chain is resolved in reverse activation order, starting with the last card that was activated.

(Chain Link 3) "Seven Tools of the Bandit" negates the activation of "Magic Jammer" and destroys it.
(Chain Link 2) "Magic Jammer" has its activation negated, so nothing happens at this Chain Link.
(Chain Link 1) The effect of "Raigeki" resolves, destroying all monsters Player 2 controls.
The Chain ends with the remaining cards ("Seven Tools of the Bandit" and "Raigeki") going to the Graveyard. (For timing purposes, this is considered to be done at the same time as the effect of "Raigeki" destroying all of Player 2's monsters.)

but raigeki doesn't have a semicolon or a colon

>>542818190
that's an inherent anti summon

>>542818190
>>542816218
>What starts them?
Activating a card or an effect. When you play spell/trap or flip it face up, that is activating the card. Playing Raigeki is activating the card. A spell card that makes this clear is Primeval Planet Perlereino, you're "activating the card" when it's first played face-up on the field.

>>542816218
any activated card or effect that is activated while in a "neutral" game state
activated effects are any non-continuous effects and some unclassified effects (unclassifieds are uncommon so don't worry about them if you are this new), most monster effects can start chains or be part of chains at least once their activation condition is met, for example monster effects that happen if they are normal or special summoned, or monster effects that you activate manually during your main phase while the game state is neutral and your opponent tells you they don't have anything they want to activate, or quick effects if their activation cost (if any) can be met
activated cards is flipping a trap, activating a spell and activating a pendulum monster as a pendulum scale (technically this last one is the same as activating a spell)

>>542816218
First you need to understand that cards have "spell speeds"
So some cards are at spell speed 1 (like activating a monsters effect on field, activating a normal spell, field spell, etc), some cards are spell speed 2 (quick play spells, (quick effect) monster effects, traps) and spell speed 3 (counter traps). Lower spell speeds can't chain to higher spell speeds. If someone chains a counter trap, you need your own to stop it since its the highest spell speed.
Every effect you activate starts a chain.
The first effect will always be chain 1 and cards activated afterwards will be chain 2, chain 3, etc.
Once all available effects are applied, you go backwards through the chain to trigger the effects.

So easy example:
>you activate rescue cat's effect on field (CL1)
>your opponent activates ash blossom (CL2)
>you activate called by the grave (CL3)
You then go backwards to get the results
>called by banishes ash (CL3)
>ash tries to negate rescue cat but is negated by called by (CL2)
>rescue cat special summons monsters from deck (CL1)

Does that make sense?

>>542818889
Im not feeling it. Feels the wrong type of sexual.

>>542818580
>>542818629
so you don't activate cyber dragon? it just exists? why is that different
>>542819081
>Every effect you activate starts a chain.
what about the ones that people said they didn't or the guy that linked that video, how am i supposed to know what does what and what doesn't

>>542819352
>what about the ones that people said they didn't or the guy that linked that video, how am i supposed to know what does what and what doesn't
You asked for the basics, I gave you the basics
Until you get a full understanding on the basics, there's no point in teaching you the next tier of understanding chains.
So do you understand the basic idea behind chains or not?

>>542819629
i do now i think, thanks for your explanation

>>542819159
Is there anything more honest than infernity players?

>>542819846
Politicians

>>542819352
>why is that different
Because of >>542816603, it lacks those which define the "activation window". Instead, cyber dragon has an "inherent condition" which just lets you special summon him without starting a chain. Diabellstar the Black Witch is another case.

>>542819352
Look for colons and semi colons as an indication of an activated effect. There's a card called "Toon Bookmark" with one of its effects being
>"If a "Toon World(s)" you control would be destroyed by card effect, you can banish this card from your GY instead."
Theres no colon or semi colon, so it doesn't "activate" and thus doesn't start a chain.

Behold, Infinite Engine Slop...........
Aggregator into Herald into Habikriri isn't even that bad of a line but I don't count on Habikiri or Ritual being long for this world

>rest of BPRO sucks
>people start defending it as made for genesys
>despite some of the featured archetypes being pend and link
What if OCG starts trolling TCG in this way, it might’ve already started by making Radiant Typhoon a link. Just give every archetype that seems made for Genesys something like the MST link or Archfiend Pend Ritual

>>542819352
cyber dragon's effect is a special summoning condition, not an activated effect, generally these are called "inherent" summons
the main differences (in a practical sense) are that inherent summons do not start a chain, and effects that negate summons (e.g. horn of heaven) can negate the summon of an inherent effect in the same way they can negate a normal summon or a synchro summon
a good rule of thumb to knowing whether an effect is activated or not is checking if there's a ":" and/or ";" in their effect, cyber dragon doesn't has that
>if only your opponent controls a monster, you can special summon this card (from your hand)
but for example watch cat does
>if you control no monsters: you can special summon this card from your hand
so it's activated in the hand and can be negated by (for example) divine wrath while cyber dragon can't, since it doesn't activates but on the contrary you can negate cyber dragon's summon with black horn of heaven, but not watch cat's summon

>>542820051
>Theres no colon or semi colon, so it doesn't "activate" and thus doesn't start a chain.
does that apply to everything? so if something doesn't have punctuation it's an inherent card effect?

>>542820342
so if it doesn't have a semicolon or a colon i can't negate it, got it

I have a guess.
>Use the “the fallen and the virtuous” as a board breaker
>It sends a card that special summons albaz to the GY, but it’s reactive to being placed to the GY
>Albaz eats the board to become Stigmatika dragon
>Tribrigade uses it and a Tri-brigade to go into “Mouser”

>>542820535
you can but only with cards that negate summons instead of effects
for example solemn judgment, it can negate summon(s) but not monster effects, so it can negate cyber dragon's summon (solemn judgment would activate as chain link 1 when cydra would be summoned, negates the summon and destroys it) but it can't negate watch cat's own effect summon since its summon comes from an activated monster effect and is not inherent

>>542820786
you're confusing me now

>>542820535
>>542820350
The main exception is the effects of spells and traps when they are first activated on the field that don't have a specific activation window or cost. Raigeki is the perfect example:
>"Destroy all monsters your opponent controls."
Theres no colon or semi colon, but it's "activated" when you activate (play) the card itself.

They are probably some other exceptions, but they're much more niche so don't worry about them for now.

Toon support doko

>>542820894
using these 2 cards as example
divine wrath can chain to a monster effect when it is activated to negate it, but cydra's summon isn't activated so it doesn't start a chain that can be responded to so there's never an opportunity to activate divine wrath
horn of heaven can start a chain when a monster(s) would be summoned to negate the summon itself (not negate an effect, the summon), so even though cyber dragon does not start a chain, horn of heaven can activate when it would be summoned as the chain link 1, and negate cyber dragon's summon

>>542820894
>>542821521
meanwhile, watch cat's effect IS activated (it has ":") so it starts a chain in your hand, and divine wrath can respond to it to negate it
but horn of heaven cannot negate its summon after the effect is activated because tl;dr cards that negate summons cannot negate summons that occur due to activated effects, only inherent ones that don't activate like cyber dragon's summon or a normal summon
in one case (cyber dragon) you negate the summon itself, in the other (watch cat) you negate the effect that would summon the monster

>>542821521
>>542821743
that makes it a bit clearer but still hard to fully grasp
thank you very much for your time

>>542822036
Negate a summon vs Negate an effect to summon is a classic distinction that trips many people up, so don't feel bad if it's confusing.
The other one that confuses people is negate a card/effect activation vs negate an effect.

ANNOUNCE THE BPRO STREAM YOU FUCKS

>>542822668
where would I even go to watch that

>>542822795
Youtube as usual

>>542822795
yugioh OCG official channel on youtube
i think it's this one
https://www.youtube.com/@yugiohOCGch

Man whatever happened to salamangreat?

bpro stream will have a special vrains ova episode

I'm sure glad this game has a carefully thought-out and well-documented system for properly understanding card text so that anyone can simply pick up the game and play, so long as they understand the language.
Imagine if the game was a broken mess of bureaucracy, which interpreted simple words and symbols in extremely counter-intuitive ways and didn't officially catalog these odd occurrences in ways that could be easily researched.

>>542824358
skill issue

>>542824320
other fireslop makes use of sunlight wolf, princess and raging phoenix better

>>542823606
RD/SJMP-JP057 レスキューラビット Rescue Rabbit
Level 4 EARTH Beast Effect Monster
ATK 300
DEF 100
【REQUIREMENT】 Place this face-up card on the field on the bottom of the owner’s Deck.
【EFFECT】 Choose 2 Level 4 or lower Normal Monsters with the same Type in your GY and Special Summon them to your field face-up, but destroy them during the End Phase of the turn they were Special Summoned. For the rest of this turn, you cannot activate the effect of “Rescue Rabbit”.

>>542824320
>erm what happened to the extremely honest deck that ends on a single pop and negate from 7 years ago

>>542823606
Konami usually updates the art for cards in Rush to give them a unique identity.
For Rescue Rabbit they... changed the background.

Pic related, it's just the regular Rescue Rabbit on a Rush frame, generated on MDPro3.

>>542825127
but bro it can recycle ash

>>542825127
I don't see what Dracotail has to do with what anon asked

>>542824320
Every deck more or less can do Salamngreat's claim to fame nowadays. Yummy has like 12 one card combos and chews through handtraps for breakfast and still has room for all the non-engine it could ever want. Meanwhile Salamngreat's higher ceiling playstyles are kind of bad and the fire lock means it doesn't benefit from the glut of generic cyberse support they've released

>>542824976
>card created to push the new xyz mechanism
>in a game with no xyz
What's the point?

>>542825561
Bratty Impulse needs correction!!!

>>542824320
salamangreat should get a link 2 that locks both players to fire upon summon so they don't die to nib lel

Didn't know Lavos was a card on ygo

>>542825526
More tribute summon fodder.

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ROUND 7 MATCHUPS:
>Lacooda vs Maelstrom
>SGoblin vs Nyx
>Porker vs Unplayer
>Velleity vs Da
>Lynex vs Getter
>Commonwheat gets a bye this round

>>542826215
lynex you faggot nigger tranny when the fuck are we playing

>>542825526
In the mid to late game, it's essentially 2 tributes for a tribute summon. It can also give you fodder for rituals. A large number of fusions in Rush also require a level 4 or lower normal as one of its materials, so it helps set those up as well (notably, it can summon vanilla Harpie Lady to make the Contact Fusion that broke the game a couple formats ago).
It's a pretty decent utility card but I don't really see it getting much play once the new toy syndrome wears off

Has anyone noticed that “The Fallen & The Virtuous” actually references the card effects of Mirrorjade and Sanctifire dragon.

>>542827642
No

>>542827735
> Once per turn (Quick Effect): You can send 1 Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck to the GY that mentions "Fallen of Albaz" as material; banish 1 monster on the field,
● Send 1 monster that mentions "Fallen of Albaz" from your Extra Deck to the GY, then target 1 face-up card on the field; destroy it.

> “Fallen of Albaz” + 1 LIGHT Spellcaster monster
>During your opponent’s turn (Quick Effect): You can target 2 monsters in any GY(s); Special Summon both monsters, 1 to each field.
● If you have an "Ecclesia" monster in your field or GY: Target 1 monster in either GY; Special Summon it to your field.

>>542828317
Gonna be honest anon I'm running on fumes right now. Fucking drowsy as fuck right now

>>542826215
Here's a little list of all the winrates, I'll make a spreadsheet or something with match history and all that when I have time, tomorrow probably

Maelstrom - 4W-1L (1 Bye)
Unplayer - 5W-1L
Da - 3W-3L
Nyx - 3W-3L
SGoblin - 3W-3L
Lynex - 3W-3L
Getter - 2W-4L
Lacooda - 2W-4L
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Extra deck for OCG elvennotes might look like this? There are more link than synchro

>>542828674
>Unplayer has the best performance

>>542828954
For some reason he gives me Cipher/Tibarn vibes

>>542829431
POWER RANGERS ROAAAR!!

>Burst Protocol (Oct 25)
>9 day left
>no stream announced
>30 card left
Owari Da...

I SOLVED THIS
is people who had tag for a duel before

>>542829581
They are saving their BIG load to shoot into our heart

>>542829581
They’re probably trying to do that annoying thing again where they release this set’s big card on the same day as the “The Fallen & The Virtuous” episode.

How many times will I have to tell brandedfags that there is nothing awaiting them aside from total humiliation? Their deck will always be tier 3 or lower for eternity no matter what

Vector will be the VA guest of the stream

>>542830464
there will be toon support in dood

why are people pretending they didn't cry about EL PAYASO for years specially after he got Bystials
>WAAAAH BAN BRANDED FUSION!!

>all that discussion about special summons
breh

>>542830464
>>542830575
it will be Shun’s because I said so

>>542830885
shitraptors already got their endgame

The strongest.

>>542829436
They both sperg all the time but actually play unlike other spergs?

>>542831176
not enough
Raidraptor needs their rank 1, rank 2, rank 9 and rank 11 Xyz to complete all ranks

>>542831267
VV da best
such a fun deck
2024/25 year of the ritual

Noah support soon.

>>542831613
filler trash doesn’t deserve support

>>542830602
Branded got like two formats of being top dog before Tear and Kash beat it back into the cuck chair. Wasn't even particularly or overly dominant during said period either. By AGOV it had to cope with Puppet lock and then when TVTAL SNVKE DVMINATION happened there was no hope for the deck anymore.
People mostly hate Branded for its pivot to floodgate slop to maintain relevance late in its life span.

>>542830602
They’re probably envious that my deck gets these uniquely ultra strong cards as they’re always combining their own decks with Repeat Smith, Mitsurugi, K9, etc.

After effects like this and Obedient School, I do not care. Branded Fusion is more fair and resource heavy than whatever these repetitive abominations do.

>>542830464
pretty sure its revolver

>>542831845
Revolver’s VA might be an additional guest but not the main one (the one whose support is revealed on stream)

>>542831954
pretty sure they will do another revolver vs playnaker va duel again to do borrelshorud vs alliedcode

Overframe shark.

>>542831613
>Noah
Gozaburo Kaiba support soon

>>542829746
Playmaker and Ai never had a Tag Duel. The latter only acquired a human form and Deck once becoming an antagonist and he was the one wrecking others in 2 on 1 Duels. And Sevens never had Tag Duels.

Questions for those that have played a decent amount of Genesys so far:
1) do you find that turn lengths are generally shorter than advanced play
2) do you find there are generally more turns played in a single game
3) do you find that there are less non games and more back and forth (kind of similar to previous question)

This obviously depends on the deck you bring, but I'm curious as to your opinions.

>>542831671
>>542831671
leave Noah alone
he's a good kid

>>542832817
1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes
But I play vs friends so idk. We don't use the best decks, that's might be the case why I answered Yes to all

>>542832817
shorter plays because the degeneracy cost lots of points
turns last close to the same but the game is less unfair
yes there is a lot of back and forth , i feel like i lost because i missplay and not because a dice roll

>>542831683
People were too stupid to side against the deck properly and did not understand how to counterplay beyond Ash the Branded Fusion. They'd try to Evenly or Dark Ruler against Mirrorjade + Red instead of just using D.D. Crow on Ad Libitum, or on Albion before it can trigger its end phase effect.

>>542831683
>before Tear and Kash beat it back into the cuck chair.
?????
Dude.
Tear and Kash were legit UNPLAYABLE in any sense. And they completely shifted the game and meta to the point that almost all pre-Branded decks were completely dead.
> when TVTAL SNVKE DVMINATION happened there was no hope for the deck anymore.
Snake Eyes was this fragile “struggle to go first” link deck that basically depended on a single spell card (OSS-SE) to be this ultra relevant meta deck despite having the most convenient special summon clauses possible. And Maliss is pretty much better than it in every way possible.
And quite frankly, I don’t think people remember them at all. I don’t even hate them because Tearlament and Kashtira at peak level would’ve floodgated their GY uses without even paying attention to what is even going on.

>>542832817
1)No, in fact i take equally as long to do shit in both gen and adv
2)No but that's on me for playing a fragile OTK deck, either i deploy two ligers named Hiroshima andd Nagasaki, or i get vietconged by Droll
3)See above, but also non-games are just Lunalight bricking because good god, playing without Tiger and wolf is a fucking monstrosity of a nightmare that makes me cringe and remember the painful days of Tiger being fucking Banned, except now that includes wolf (which complicates fusing)

>>542832817
Yes because I still can't fight handtraps.
No because hitting for 8k after clearing 2 of my monsters still make me lose.
Handtraps should never have been a thing.

>>542833109
Anon. At that time, the previous top decks were that ritual negate spam, and Tri-Brigade.
They did use D.D. Crow and Called by to counter both of those decks, and Branded. The other top deck was swordsoul.
The main thing you don’t understand is that back then, a single banish would utterly wreck your combo. And failing to OTK means an automatic game over from Branded and Tri-brigade, which have very annoying stall tactics and proper back row interruptions that weren’t just imperm.

>>542834001
>people don't care about the effect text if that gives them more to coom
i hate coomers with passion man

>>542833109
Also, idiot.
Niburu was a much bigger threat back then. That when he’s summoned, he ends the game. So it was encouraged to play the adventure engine to just for a single negate on stopping him. And guess what card appears at the end phase to fuse with Niburu and summon one of the strongest boss monsters ever made, ALBAZ! And if you leave the field with an ED at the end phase, ALBAZ was going to pummel you.

Why do people like you think so stupidly.

>>542834481
>inb4 the VA cancelled one week before the stream

promethean princess but for all other attributes when?

>>542834730
That wouldn’t happen. She’s one of the strongest boss monsters ever made from a very unique kind of circumstances and and is meant to be her own iconic staple card entirely.

Bird up was such fucking cancer. I mean Drytron was too but I only played that variation on master duel and…ugh. I hope that gay alien baby is still banned, I wonder how much it costs on genysis.

>>542835275
I can’t remember Bird-up at all.
My bird-up was that bricky normal summon deck I played because I could floodgate the opponent with Statue. And I barely ever used negate bird at all.

>>542835191
water princess
>target 1 water monster you control and 1 monster your opponent controls, return them to the hand
wind princess
>target 1 wind monster and 1 monster your opponent controls, shuffle them into deck
earth princess
>target 1 earth monster and 1 monster your opponent controls, flip them face down if possible, else send them to the gy
light princess
>target 1 light monster and 1 monster your opponent controls, send them to the gy
dark princess
>target 1 dark monster and 1 monster your opponent controls, banish those targets

>>542835661
What is this?

>>542835952
https://x.com/ManaMoonArt/status/1524310500544294912/photo/1

>>542835925
That sounds even worse. No to that and maliss support.

>>542835925
You can’t give wind ultra generic support bro we’ve been over this, that shit breaks the game beyond repair.

>>542836638
It would also make the decks feel so samey.

>psa counterfeit case where an employee had put tons of fake cards into slabs?
wow. yugioh probably has a lower percentage of fakes but still

chaos princess
>you can target 1 light and 1 dark monster you control: banish those targets, and if you do, banish 2 cards your opponent controls face down

>>542837615
She feels like a fusion monster.

It's been 2 and a half months since I ended AMC, still not ready to start the next series (how's the /dng/ league going? I've been too busy with new projects to join), but I think I can start setting up the groundwork for Chaos Progression to start in November or January.

As a reminder, it will be a progression series that adds packs in random order and uses a banlist system that's similar to AMC. No need to go into depth right now, but what matters is that packs will be selected by roll chart and the first step is setting that chart up. So, sometime Saturday I'll post this and add packs /dng/ posts until the chart is full. Main line packs, deck build, single card promos, TCG, OCG, starter decks, Duel Link packs. The only thing I won't allow is Master Duel packs since that would be boring. See you then.

>>542838343
Do AMC but on genesys

Ryzeal and Maliss are so annoying.

>>542838421
Tell you what, you host it and I'll join.

Has anyone dicked around with this? I'm thinking about cramming this in Rescue-ace to summon Turbulance or Preventer

amc is more fun than genesys because of the shitpost chances...

>elf
>peacock
>chains
Is Elvennotes an Ado reference?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbxR25brgoE

>>542839275
What is even happening here?

>>542839632
Belly button vore with chains.

Snatchy bullied.

>>542841807
our true HEROES Melffy

I rlly hope drytron and tears get reduced points in the upcoming genesys list. They Just don't do anything In the meta right now

>>542839632
Elf rape

>>542842325
That’s the point.

Was reading a bit of the thread, are inherent special summons a new ruling or are they something I never learned? Does Vanity's not prevent Lava Golem/Kaijus now?

>>542842850
They’re an effect with a condition most of the time.

>>542842850
Old ruling. This card doesn't work on Monster Reborn, for example.

>>542842923
So are there examples of the difference? Do they have anything to do with Nomi? I just don't remember this shit ever coming up
>>542843031
How old?

>a reality where
Football Rescue Rabbit confirmed to be a canon timeline in the card multiverse just like the different Zera timelines.

>>542810059
>Darklords and Assault mode are decent casual decks
>D/D/D got a nib out to brootal mog HERO fags
>Elvennotes is the new tier 0 meta engine especially since mitsu will be butchered by the time we get it (most broken cards probably aren't even revealed yet)
Idk what you fags are crying about this is a very standard set

>>542843507
Inherent summons are something you do as a Spell Speed 1 action (like normal summoning or activating a Normal Spell card). For example, Contact Fusion, Synchro, Xyz or Link summons, and also cards like Cyber Dragon and BLS Envoy.
Summons with cards effects are ones that are summoned by other cards like Fusion Summoning with a Fusion Spell, Ritual Summoning using a Ritual Spell, using other cards to summon a monster like Monster Reborn or Mystic Tomato, or a monster using its own effect to summon itself at a specific timing like Battle Fader or Kagetokage.
Although there are some summons that are actually summons by effect and not Inherent Summons even though they're done at Spell Speed 1. You can tell by the effect to summon itself having a colon (:) or semicolon (;), like with High Priestess of Prophecy.

More Pot spells are getting points next list

>>542812003
It doesn't start a chain

>>542844295
So the Horn can't stop the effect of another card that summons because it's the effect that becomes a chain link, not the summon? So the Horn could stop something like Neo-Daedalus or Envoy in your example, but couldn't stop something like Illusionist Faceless Magician?

>>542812285
It makes no sense as normal game design, though.

>>542844592
Yep.

>>542844841
Oh gotcha. That's why Ash says "a card or effect that would summon" I take it. So in my original thought it wouldn't change anything because you cannot activate an effect that you cannot resolve, so you still can't Kaiju a Vanity's

Does anyone remember that weird six samurai lock on dueling book where the guy made it so his opponent could not attempt to activate a card that would be put into a zone because it would change the number of cards on the field and cause an infinite loop?

Has anyone noticed how the fusion materials get more generic overtime?

you wouldn't rape an elf

>>542845619
I would (I am a LIGHT Fiend)

>>542845747
Engraver-dono…

>>542845747
I don’t get it.

>>542844981
Who are these two?

>>542845913
Ayu

Can we reduce Nadir from 33 to 30 so I can at least play three of it and Ecclesia in my dogmatika deck?

How about we release chaos ruler to celebrate the release of synchro power patron? Surely nothing will go wrong

>>542846307
Just as soon as Master Diamond drops to 33, so I can run one copy of Block Dragon.

>>542846307
imo it should be at 0 along with a whole bunch of 33 cards. alot of cards are 33 taxed due to fearmongering and nothing else.

>>542846448
Ftk fags get the rope

>>542845913
Futoshi

Who even plays snake eyes anymore?

>>542844468
good

What do you do when you just aren't enjoying the format at all bros?

>>542846561
If they didn't want me to build an ftk deck, then they shouldn't have made Gem-Knights look so cool.

>>542846682
Otk is stronger. You can play ftk decks at home with yourself.

>>542846761
This.

>>542846761
And that matters to me how?

>>542846576
>>542846878
They really need to make more Doodle Beast cards.

>>542846582
Snake-Eyes players.

Now that the dust has settled we can all agree that Burst Protocol is the worst set of all time.

>>542847542
Not until the last cards are revealed.

>>542847542
No we can't all agree that because Elvennote is in Burst Protocol.

>>542847609
but are you saying that because you're a gooner or because elvennotes are actually good?

Elvennotes are not that good.

>>542847609
>>542847709
>>542847712
Just duel for a few matches and judge how good the deck is from those.

>>542847712
What makes you say that?

>>542847709
Yes

>>542847871
why the fuck is this $25

doompostbros... we need to find another angle, burst protocol is turning out better than we initially thought...

>>542847923
No reprint in Chronicle deck :^)

I want to burst my protocol inside ze amin

Medius + synchro patron is literally the newest cope engine. Everyone will be buying him and cards that can be abused along side with him

>>542848068
Notice that the structure deck doesn’t include any Despian extra deck monsters.

>>542848192
>will
Medius is already spiked from ~4 to ~14
and it's another access to Fiendsmith

>>542848317
oh well, not like I can really play sanctifire in genysis as it is anyways.

Lore deck saved the game again. Some people won't like this narrative

Where... is... the.... fucking... Jap... stream... ?...

>YCS Anaheim Genesys
>Vanquish Soul, Odion, Generaider
>YCS Sao Paulo Genesys
>Vanquish Soul, Generaider, Odion
Yeah, no way these decks aren't gonna get hit on the next banlist.

>>542848317
>The main deck has:
>seven dragon cards
>six spellcasters
>Two fairies
>Two Tri-Beast
It’s almost like they wanted you to buy the Draco-tail in-direct support.

genesissy is not real yugioh
take that shit to your own tranny general

genesisters...

>>542847417
So… no one?

>>542847214
>>542847945
>>542848931
>>542848964
Kill yourselves Diapercord. Holy shit

really tempted to make a darklord deck even though I KNOW its going to be bad.

>no waifus in Mitsurugi
Why?

>>542849150
What is that furry deck?

>>542849290
This.

>>542849150
Literally can't stop associating Dominus Spiral with Unchained because of the fucking big spirit dog...

>>542849343
Dominus Spiral

>>542849343
Just one of the Dominus staple trap cards.

>>542849341
Because snakes are gay and phallic.

>>542849512
Not all of them.

>>542849341
It’s a man’s deck. So the women love it.

It’s all konami’s fault for not releasing synchro diactoros so you have no choice but to make a random generic s5 with medius

>>542849512
Ragnaraika chain coil would like to know your location

>>542849802
That's for later, and maybe the wave of cards it comes with will include a plot twist, so that might be why they didn't release it yet.

Yes I will be running last turn dinomorphia for genesys

I want Genesys official support on Master Duel. Imagine how great it would be.

>>542847542
It's either bpro or dune, althought I doubt dune can be topped as the worst, unless bpro truly fumbles the last 20 cards

>>542850182
>we have Heracles at home

>>542849150
Both of these involve some guy or girl and his or her summon

>>542849802
But fiendsmith is literally anti-nib line while giving you a body to tribute for parallelism. Unless synchro diactoros can beat nib, people will still use fiendsmith. And even if synchro diactoros does beat nib, being able to full combo just by having 2 bodies on board to access fiendsmith is still too good. The deck was created with fiendsmith in mind

>>542850205
A huge number of the Japanese players talking about Genesys are pretty much saying that it should be playable in a digital platform since it's way less of a hassle to keep track of decks with those than in paper play.

Genesys is never coming to Master Duel.

>>542849150
They should print more Dominus cards. They should print more monster and his foid, or foid and her summoned monster cards fr

>DL limited every garbage burn card and pot of benevolence because of Rebecca's skill
And the winner for the clownest banlist known to man goes to Duel Links.

Real nip will feel insulted that gaijin dared to tarnish their game with an abomination like genesys

>>542850356
Yeah but Master Dueling has added literally nothing new in 4 years so chances of them adding Genesys is exactly 0. Especially since it's a TCG thing.

At minimum there should be 1 more Dominus card remaining (Fire).
If Dark & Light are included, then there's 3 left.

>>542847542
I will be enjoying the dark lord support. When does it drop in tcg?

>>542851005
January

>>542850642
Potchads proving themselves too strong once again.

>>542850663
Genesys is an OCG idea, the TCG is just a guinea pig.

>>542851416
The OCG idea to let TCG have free reign over an entire format's banlist?

>Soratroon and his gang now spamming softcore porn and crying cause Gensys is popular
Really? Its nearing onto 3 fucking weeks now

>>542808302 (OP)
>all chronicle decks release date are the same as main booster set
>in both TCG and OCG
What did Konami mean by this?

>>542851636
TCG players are just the testing dummies, anon.

>>542850642
>effect damage cut by half, except some cards
What is the reason behind? Lava Golem from 1k > 500 but not this

I wonder what makes removal so cool but negation so cringe

>>542852329
Forgot/too lazy to errata it

>>542852329
Komoney only cut lava golem damage amongs all the already released cards. Only cards with burn effect released after lava golem errata got their damage cut in half. IDK why didnt they just cut every burn card damage in half and now limiting them instead.

>>542852049
...for the banlist that is entirely done by the TCG?

>>542847214
>>542848931
>>542848964
>>542850486
>>542850685
Can we ban this faggot already?

>>542852049
The emergency adjustment was fast. It means the TCG did not consult nor ask for permission from the OCG

Can someone explain to me why there's a dude having a meltdown over people pointing out Japan isn't involved with Genesys?

If you like the format, go for it - Why do you need KoJ to rubberstamp it?

>>542853204
The responsibility for designing new cards and sets lies with KoJ. What do you think will happen to a format without link and pendulum, without support from the actual card designers? It’s not going to last long. That’s exactly why they’re trying so hard to push this narrative, because they know how fragile the existence of genesys format really is. On top of that, they’re just insecure that their format never got approval from KoJ, the true owner of the franchise. In the end, it’s nothing more than a desperate yet thoughtless creation of KoA

>>542853670
>What do you think will happen to a format without link and pendulum
It'll save Yugioh out of sheer kino and vril

>>542853204
Can you kill yourself Soratroon?

>>542853204
he hates the idea that the tcg could make something good on their own without his overlords coming up with the idea

All KoA has to do in order to receive KoJs blessing is:
>Allow Rei into genesys (this is non-negotiable)
>Allow Solfachord into genesys (also non-negtioable)
>Lower Roach to 10 points
There that's all you need to do.

>>542853961
And like a true faustian man, Tewart said "No".
Also
>Solfachord
sis think she's on the team

Figured I would see how this looked in Genesys in case I feel like playing that shit and wow
>21 points so far only
This surely can't go bad.

>>542854065
Why no pot of greed?

>>542853826
It will die from the lack of new cards. If KoJ just keeps printing cards that support link and pendulum, archetypes that work well with link and pendulum, cope supports for older theme in form of link and pendulum, then genesys will forever be stuck in one place. That is why you can see posts about "this X new deck is for genesys", those people were coping that KoJ cares about genesys (they don't)

>>542854250
>pendlum getting support
I feel bad for d/d/d but that’s all I can really say
>links
Generally unhealthy for the sake of the game and I really wish genysis propped up sooner solely because of its existence.

>>542854065
Where is Daruma? And Trap Holic? Also Picaia, why? You want to use your Paleos not pitch them. Personally I think IDP is better that Overoot, although I've always wanted to try it alongside this.

>>542854250
nigger they regularly release pure fusion/synchro/xyz/ritual archetypes, there won't be a shortage of cards just because the format doesn't have pends and links.
hell they barely release new pends in the first place

>>542854250
>A lack of new cards
Kewl Toon. Mitsurugi. Medius. Branded support.

>>542854509
Speaking of, no fucking way that new monster reborn card just drops without costing like, 44 points or something. Shits fucking crazy in this format.

>>542854238
>>542854451
Idk, right now I just tossed in the basics to get a good oversight of the deck. Daruma I definitely want in since it's just another 15 (waow up to 36 points lmao), Pikaia is fun and I want more Paleos in the deck, PoG being 30 makes me not wanna run em, I do want to run IDP as well but Overroot feels better when there's no Links.
Also sadly don't own any Trap Holics so can't run em atm.

>>542854250
how exactly will there be 0 new cards that get dipped into genesys use when 4/6 of the anime series didn't have pends and links and there's a constant trickle of at least some anime cards

>>542850642
>And the winner for the clow—
silence, sheep
we have brought yata lock back
https://youtu.be/lEfoXW_XoPc

>>542832817
>1) do you find that turn lengths are generally shorter than advanced play
No, if anything they are longer. Hindering the amount of non-engine a deck can bring means you open non-engine less, which means you can stop the opponent less.
Most of my games are me stuck watching my opponent combo off because some of my deck's cards are pointed and therefore handtraps are at an all-time low.
>2) do you find there are generally more turns played in a single game
No, I find it identical. Going first player makes a strong board and wins or doesn't and loses. >3) do you find that there are less non games and more back and forth (kind of similar to previous question)
No

>>542854339
Doesn't matter in the end. Genesys won't last if no new compatible and integrable cards get printed
>>542854509
>Killer tune
Sure
>Mitsurugi
Have points and practically unsuable
>Medius
The best medius deck is a elvennotes and it needs link to be able to do anything meaningful
>Branded
Lmao. That is 99 points for 3 branded fusion

>>542854607
It’s a conditional monster reborn.

>>542854741
It’s a free, very much wanted, uninterrupted mill, and a monster reborn or a potential pop. In an archetype that can search it very easily.

>>542854678
> >Mitsurugi
>Have points and practically unsuable
Hahahaha

>>542854862
Speaking of broken cards, I wonder how soon a new Ecclesia is coming.

>>542854618
And how will you be using those cards? Will you be using the pack filler tier cards? Unless cards are design with a certain power level in mind, they will always either be too strong or too weak for genesys

>play Psychics in Genesys
>for this heinous crime, nearly half my points (40) are spent on a SINGLE copy of Emergency Teleport
>if I want to actually engage with the spirit of the format and use banned cards then Return from the Different Dimension takes 50 more points but actually doesn't end up doing much unless you reach turn 3
>meaning I can run fuck all handtraps
>also everyone else can run 3 of every staple handtrap like its nothing
so fun haha

>>542855327
You technically don't have to play Emergency since you could also search Parralel. Even if it's a lot worse. Also Return being 50 is dumb (and boomerpilled), that card could be 0 and it be fine.

>>542854678
Can’t tell if this nigga is genuinely fucking dumb or he’s just looking to shoot the shit.

>>542855327
>nooooooo why can't i build without restrictions nooooooo
learn to adapt, that's the spirit of the format, not "let me shove in my deck all the busted shit so i can match the power of the main format and stomp everyone"

fucking dipshit

>>542855653
"Learning to adapt" means making my shit deck even worse for the sake of adding handtraps to try and stop my opponent from wrecking my shit.
If I need to give up e-tele and I shouldn't use the now-available banned cards, why the fuck am I even playing Psychics?

>>542852329
THEY FORGOR

>>542855327
Foxy tune is the new e-tele anyway.
You're complaining but 3 procedure 3 serene 3 foxytune 3 ze amin 1 etele is still a busted amount of starters by genesys standard. Deck costing 40 by default to make up for it is reasonable.

>>542852727
Because a lot of the old burn cards were pretty weak.

>>542854250
>It will die from the lack of new cards
The new main sets are literally getting filled with archetypes that don't need Links or Pendulums, though.

>>542853670
>The responsibility for designing new cards and sets lies with KoJ.
Yes, that's exactly why KoJ is also the ones in charge of the TCG format design. KoA isn't the ones in charge.

>>542853930
KoJ is using the TCG to test out whether or not they'll allow Pendulums and Links in the OCG's version of Genesys.

Stream tomorrow, Bastion VA is there

>>542853961
>>542854005
*Doremichord

>>542856430
Make sure to link it here when it’s live I can’t read jap

>>542854065
Any idea what you wanna put in the side deck?

>gets a consistent amount of merch (basically 80% of the time VRAINS comes up hes there)
>deck has gotten no support
>adjacent character decks offer no reference or support
>has no character Token or anything
Is there a more cucked character than Roboppi?

>>542856430
>Stream tomorrow
FUCKING
FINALLY
HOLY SHIT.

Give me my reveals.

>>542854339
Yeah, Links were way too easy to shit out, and being able to clear your own board so easily definitely took out a lot of the depth, like field management, out of the gameplay.

>>542856430
Gee, what a surprise

>>542856668
I really wanna fuck the robot

>>542855327
Don’t forget PEP being 20

>>542856430
Water dragon or Magnet support?
Call it.

>>542856430
I hope its Water Dragon support, featuring Fire Dragon to finally put it to rest.
Honestly I would take a Litmus Doom support wave.
Ever since they abandoned the + and - gimmick for his Magnet Warriors I suddenly do not give a shit about them at all

>>542832817
It definitely varies widely depending on the matchup. You do get games with many turns a lot more often than in Advanced, but a lot of games can still just end on Turn 3 depending on the players' hands.

>vector got skipped
Gay

>>542854678
Mitsurugi is still one of the most widely used meta decks in high-ranked Genesys on DuelingBook. If anything, they need to get hit harder.

>>542856784
Its Magnet Warriors

>>542856940
vectors archetype is an unplayably bad joke, fuck vector

>>542854607
>>542854741
>>542854862
Which card are you guys talking about?

>>542857054
The Fallen & The Virtuous

>>542855653
This.

>>542857054
The Fallen & The Virtuous.
That card provides every ingredient Branded loves to offer, except sending a monster to your field. Branded players especially loved doing that.

>>542856668
>Appliancer sneaks in an Ai reference in their Field Spell (the TV building's window is shaped by Ai's eyeball form, which it wasn't in the show)
>@Ignister, a deck entirely made of references, does not reference Roboppi in any way despite him being Ai's only ally in Season 3 even after TWO follow-up waves since the anime (LIOV, ALIN)
One-sided love

>>542857054
The new branded card that’s exclusive to the structure deck. The fallen and the virtuous.

I've always liked Bastion's Water Dragon deck. The monsters are cool as fuck.
Water Dragon Cluster has amazing art.

Finally, the mill targets for Magnet Warrior…

>>542856556
Sort of. Heavenly Prison is free and pretty decent and Judgment is just 7 each (don't own Iron Thunder). Other than that idk, maybe removal (back and front) or silly toolbox cards.

Fire Dragon is not real
That’s all

>>542856430
What are the odds they show off an Overframe? 0?

>>542856430
It's nice that Konami is finally recognizing that Fumi-sama is the one who's the most dedicated to Yugioh.

>that brief period in time when people unironically ran hydrogeddon
sovl

>>542857319
Now that you mention it... I think it's gotta be pretty high, no?
Perfect place to show it off surely

>>542857381
Her addiction was pretty recent, Yamagami was much more into when they started

>>542857423
It feels too early to reveal it here, it will probably be revealed at Jump Festa in December.

>>542857393
What? 2008?

>>542857210
I always wonder who came up with the idea of chemical Dinosaurs to begin, its such an oddball concept

>>542857210
I always liked Hydrogeddon's aggro swarming playstyle in old-school Yugioh.

>>542857446
She really got more into it when she started marathon watching every Yugioh series on stream. She just got to Arc-V on her most recent one.

I have to say this.
I think this card in general will be everyone’s worst nightmare. The recent builds I have seen convinced me that this card was built with support featured in other packs.

>>542857393
>>542857508
Everyone was on low-DEF floaters at that time, and Hydrogeddon forced players to adapt by going back to high-DEF monsters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC-gbchdEwM

>>542857798
Dogmatika has so many retardedly good going second tools now.
Nadir Servant, Chaplain, Fallen & The Virtuous, new Fleur. Even the old cards like Dogmatimatrix work better when the opponent has some cards on their field.
Dogmatika/Regenesis is such a based deck.

why does edopro not support genesys?

>>542858318
because it's pointless

>brandedfags thriving on constant support years after their lore ended
>visas and diabellestar? forgotten immediately
>medius the slut? whored out to engraver and habakiri in order to have any relevance at all

>>542811472
I would argue ygo actually needs the text box and can't do proper full arts

But Konami bent the knee anyway so you lost and lost hard

Didn't know early Arc-V contained that many random background details.
https://x.com/shirokuriboh/status/1978679326447984810

>>542858318
The lead dev hates it, it's just a personal thing. He even banned people from the EDOPro Discord server just for asking.

>>542858430
where should i start to learn yugioh lore? a little lost

>>542858430
It isn't even over yet.
Just wait till Season 2 begins.

>>542858452
>posts Over Rush rarity card that's whole gimmick is the art breaks thru the classic frame
>frame is actually still visible and doesn't crack into the text book
Is Soratranny just retarded?

>>542858508
i like how they added the extra monster zones

>>542809962
Pokemon full arts don't break the frame either lol

>>542858430
Good. Visas and Diabelle fucked this game beyond repair.

>>542858508
Would you job to a girl on purpose in order to get laid, /dng/?

How would you make a retrain of pic related good?

>>542858452
The Over Rush cards just have the artwork extended without messing with the text box. I assume the Overframe cards are gonna similarly keep the text box unobstructed.

>>542858679
If she doesn't get mad at you for purposefully jobbing, she is not worth it.

>>542858682
I like the idea of making it a Ritual that sends all 5 pieces to the GY from hand or Deck.

>>542858508
Sauce is Futari by Jorori. It's just a short image set, though, and only 1 page is NSFW.

>>542858452
Yeah

Vanguard cards are the exact same size as yugioh cards (japanese size) and they still kept the text box and got rid of the frame

I think the final product will be a combination of both

>>542858536
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Template:Card_storylines

>>542858571
Looks like it.

>>542858682
Ritual Monster.

Konami themelves went became bolder and bolder as time went on to the point they don't give a fuck about the frame lmao

>>542809962
Messes with the text box
>>542859108
Doesn't mess with the text box
>>542859432
Doesn't mess with the text box

>>542858679
only if it's mieru sora common or lidl

>>542859125
thanks

>>542859432
Can't wait to activate this card in my Genesys Runick deck

>>542859534
No problem.

Kewl

>>542859560
Have you done any testing yet?

So 3 Magnet Warriors at least and maybe 1 Spell? No Traps and MAYBE 1 Ritual? Doesn't seem to be a Fusion for them but I could be wrong on that.

>>542858430
The Konami loreguys are going to play favorites depending on how they feel, Yugioh anime writers probably did that often too but it went more unnoticed since that can get misunderstood as a mandate

>>542858430
Branded/Dogmatika is one of the most popular decks around with very distinctive mechanics and appeal from the rest.

Visas and Diabellestar unfortunately went into the directions of having an okayish first deck, a really “what is this?” tier 0 deck, Azamina/Kashtira as this annoying whore engine the tier 0 deck loved to use, and then the wonky synchro deck everyone seems to have forgotten about until someone does a “look at my unbreakable board”.

They tend to follow this formula of having four archetypes (fusion, link, synchro, and XYZ) while Branded had:
>Dogmatika: The Ritual Deck with an option of fusion plays, that sends Extra Deck cards to the GY
>Tri-Brigade: The link Beast deck. The monsters banish beast monsters of any kind to special summon link beast monsters.
>Springans: The weird XYZ deck of monsters attaching and detracting themselves together like spirits dwelling in the desert
>Despians: The fusion archetype that was the first to only have branded spell and traps
>Swordsoul: the wyrm deck that used tokens as tuners
>Ice-jades: Control maindeck water monsters with a synchro addition
>Bystials: The dragon-based archetype mainly based around continuous branded spells and traps
>Branded: The prime fusion deck itself. Combines Dogmatika and Despia mechanics to make the monsters more reactive to the presence of extra deck use (Quem for example).

>>542859950
Oh.
I forgot:
>Sprights: The Link-2/Rank 2/level 2 is the two monsters of Tri-brigade, except they mix in XYZs and Links seamlessly into each other
>Theorins: Main Deck engine equip cards

KAISEI NO SORA NO SHITA

>>542856940
Vector would need a full set of completely new cards where the only main connection is that the card arts reference him/Don Thousand or his original card arts

>>542858452
Some old cards can do just fine without the textbox but I think keeping the box is fine

>>542859736
Magnet warriors have a strong fusion.
They could just be retraining “ Valkyrion the Magna Warrior” and “ Berserkion the Electromagna Warrior” to make it far easier to make that fusion in the first place and improve in the main deck mechanics of magnet warriors as a whole.

>>542860508
I'm viewing this through BPRO's setlist, unless Magnet Warriors goes after Pee/Pees, there's no Fusion space for them.

It would be kinda neat if they do two support waves of Magnet Warriors and also for ABC (since the LIGHT LED) as a sort of SDR-lite equivalent to what something like Ninjas or Merlanteans got

UNBAN CHAOS RULER

>>542858943
>>542859308
Ritual makes sense, it's already one in all but name
It would need an entire suite of Millenium like cards to search the Contract with Exodia retrain that dump the pieces to the the GY and summon it from deck

>>542860628
I'd rather a Zombie counterpart

>>542860581
Yeah… but this is the old fusion I was talking about.

>>542860818
I mean, you could just make the Ritual Spell a Millennium in the first place.

Ritual archetype that only as ritual spells when?

>>542860839
Nah you see every other type gets to self mill except zombies because it would be too strong, I hope you understand :)
>inb4 zombie vampire
1 card and it's generic

>>542861276
The same place where Fusion archtype that only as Fusion spell

>>542860628
>Unbanning one of the biggest mistakes of card design

>>542857526
maybe they were absent mindedly flipping between tv channels and they happened to be showing a news story about a science experiment and a docu about dinosaurs

>>542861537
Runick?

>>542833627
3 called is just 60. Stop crying.

>>542860952
It's still so funny to me how they released this thing and didn't even give Magnet Warriors an in-theme way to search vanilla Poly.

>>542861513
Why can't Konami let Zombies be good?

How much better would Gemini monsters be if they were treated as a Normal Monster everywhere? Not just in modern but in Yu-Gi-Oh history?

>there are 4 cards that use the word "affected" in Divine Evolution, Unleash your Power, ESP Amplifier and Reverse Trap
neat

>>542860581
>>542861908
XYZ magnet warriors.

>>542862403
>inb4 Amazoness x Water Dragon support

>>542858430
Konami has a rotation with their shilling.
After they’re done with the anime, they’re moving on to the next set of cards to give support to

>>542858430
I'll never forget my HERO. They couldn't handle his vrill ou qq chose

>>542863035
Riseheart refused to work with Visas to the very end so a form like this is just a pipe dream

>>542862201
Still pretty bad but you could probably do funny meme stuff with them

>>542863187
>Visas gets so mad because he lost to Veda and has to reset that he chudsplosions into Riseheart

>>542862823
I have a problem with that statement.
Simply because sky strikers and branded constantly had media and cards in mind for about their entire lifetimes in about the same deck, while other lore-related things are a constant juggle between shaddolls, Gishki, and whatever they have to balance (true Draco that other Draco deck).

There is an internal frustration of juggling multiple archetypes at once that it doesn’t surprise me they’ve simplified Branded lore to Dogmatika, Tri-brigade, and Springans. And killed off Icejades and Swordsoul to ensure they don’t have to ever touch those cards again.

thanks to the anon who shared the wiki with the archetypal lore, i've been reading the white forest story and it's so cool i kinda want to play white forest now.
what kind of deck is white forest? is it like a combo deck that aims to put as many interruptions as possible going first, or is it a control deck that aims to outgrind the opponent?
can you play white forest as a dedicated going second deck?

i play on playing it in master duel, don't know if the clarification matters

Proud non viewer of branded and Sky striker tranime on youtube.
I singlehandedly defeated them and made them flop and all it took was doing literally nothing.

>>542863748
You are a sad man with no identity to him at all because being a demon.

>>542863839
ESL skysissy babble.

>>542863941
I don’t even like Sky Striker. I just hate people like you because I know you are no different from the trannies themselves.

>>542863941
what deck would Yujiro play

>>542863748
should be azamina anime

>>542864037
Put that dyke material away.

>>542863748
Patriot.

>>542863564
it's a giga wombo combo deck that ends on an unbreakable layered board
>can you play white forest as a dedicated going second deck?
no, but since it needs to send s/t to the gy for its combos you can shove boardbreakers in your deck and they're not completely useless when going first

>>542864026
Gren Maju Da Eiza

>>542863564
It's a go first combo deck, and I don't think it has the tools to try focusing on going second. It's currently missing its last wave of support in MD, but that should be coming out within the next 2 months or so.

>>542862748
>Amazoness Empress & Water Dragon have the same ATK & Level

>>542864184
Did you say Superpoly?

>>542843789
>>Elvennotes is the new tier 0 meta engine
Wut

>>542863468
More like They don’t have time, nor interest to animate/support all that filler shit, so they do it in moderation
Just like how World Legacy is untouched besides Krawlers and Orcust

>>542863564
White Forest is a sex deck. You groom your little girls to turn them into sex beats

>>542865121
delete yourself pedocuck

>>542863564
you are me i liked the azamina stuff too, saint azamina is cool

>>542865416
My post was removed as far away from pedophilia as your name from the top tables, Pablo

>>542859654
Is it worth it investing in Killer tune?
Is it even realistic for it to be T1 with just 1-2 support waves?

Is Riseheart the most chud Visas counterpart?

>>542865785
>creates a robot kitkallos
>instead of raping the real version
hard to tell

>>542861276
Ritual Art

>>542864838
Every deck is either the new Tearalaments or is instantly forgotten dogshit, of course.

>>542863564
>combo deck that aims to put as many interruptions as possible going first
That's pretty much how every deck plays now, even the grindier control decks. The only exceptions are OTK and FTK decks.

>>542864023
This.
>>542863748
>>542863941
>>542864140
Both you and the skytroons should kill yourselves.

>>542865829
How long did it take for Konami to reveal that in lore, anyway?

>>542866674
Do you think they'll ever expand on the S-Force multiverse storyline again?

>>542866802
>sp and ip get a link-3 together
>sforce dies
>the end

Blazing Dominion will have busted Chemcritter support.

>>542865009
Nah.
It’s because it was bloated nightmare to manage. And a lot of the mechanics they had didn’t age the best to put it the most politely. Or were infamous from their own perspective or by the player’s perspective.

Of World Legacy, Orcust was the best thing that remained and was very consistent. Infamous for its nightmare mermaid combo. And there is no story to continue or sell as a remake to a wider audience.

Draco had Sneed, Draco pendulums, True Draco, and Zoodiacs. And Zoodiacs are forbidden territory. Both Dracos were mechanics Konami really doesn’t want to be meta for two very different reasons. Sneed was the only deck they would put their full effort to improving.

Magistes had so many different archetypes before they decided to squeeze them down to a more reasonable scope.

When it comes to Branded lore. They feared what Spright does by searching Maxx C, so they don’t want to benefit that kind of gameplay anymore (fallen of Agyran perhaps will be abandoned or brought to another deck). Tri-brigade was powercrept and reasonable in its strengths, and featured Kitt the meme character. Swordsoul and Icejade were both objectively not useful for the lore anymore, besides maybe implementing Aegrine into Dogmatika/Branded to the future as a LIGHT Spellcaster, but that’s a topic for another day. Springangs were very disappointing and probably wouldn’t get massive support anytime soon, even when the anime is currently featuring them.

>>542867297
Igknight and Dinomistbros we are forgotten...
Majespectrechuds already got theirs, where are the synchro and fusion pendulums?

>>542857798
Apostate of Dogmatika when?!

there's no reason for Knightmare Mermaid to still be banned considering the other slop engines plaguing the game rn

>>542862748
Sorry, but the Tyler sisters have completely co-opted amazoness from Mai and Tanya and is now a 100% certified arc-v deck

There’s no reason for Knightmare Mermaid to be unbanned when we have enough engineslop running amok as it is.

>>542867875
It's unlimited in Master Duel ;^)

>>542865829
>creates a robot kitkallos
>creates
it's still kitkat, kash's thing is subjugating other races and turning them into footsoldiers for their cause like the half-life combine and its synth army

>>542867918
Spunk yes!
>>542867989
No it’s a synthetic recreation, this is canon.

>>542868095
Where was it stated?

>misawa support
BPRO confirmed for a failure

>>542856430
so this should start in exactly 22 hours and 28 minutes right

>>542868174
I didn’t care to save any references for the underwhelming visas lore.

… What if Medius is what Albaz and Aluber used to be. And when they’ve split,
1800 0
1800 0

>>542866421
branded doesn't play like that

>>542868597
Sure it does, it’s just that instead of interruptions it’s goal is to floodgate you

>>542868367
Should've had Asuka instead of Misawa.

Finmel’s deck is Artmage.
So Medius… Medius is what the answer will become.

>>542869018
theorealize is the medius stuff

What will Misawa's Magnet support turn out to be?

The theorealize that summons medius from deck will be the brafu equivalent of this lore and all later support will be centred around it

>>542869327
OG theorealize already does that since it sends Medius for cost

we need more infernity support.

>>542869691
That’s a 2 card combo that eats up his revival effect

>>542869179
>>542869327
What if this whole thing is a flashback.

>My Armades just arrived
Babe wake up, it's time to play Fiendsmith in Elvennote

>>542870243
what does armades have to do with elvenote and fiendsmith? wat

>Finmel dies
>Medius loses his mind…

>>542870397
Good question anon what does the level 5 light fiend have to do with elvenote and fiendsmith

>>542870243
Ummm sex

>>542869179
Those cards really need a searcher.

>Fiendsmith Elvennotes will become tier 0
It's time for Shifter to come back to 3

>>542871234
When we get the deck/support wave that heavily focuses on Medius, it'll happen then.

I just can't believe that the one way a Medius archetype became strong is by submitting to either Fiendsmith or Mitsurugi.
Why is this allowed? Delete Fiendsmith and Mitsu from the game already.

>>542871335
they should just ban the link-1 and that shit goes away

>>542871335
>Fiendsmith Elvennotes will become tier 0
This is pure cope lmao

Is medius the strongest normal summon now? Is he our modern day Aleister?

>>542871490
Another way it became strong is Genesys format.

>>542871592
He will be once he fetches 30 bucks on tcgplayer

Alright fine I'll bite, I haven't been paying too much attention.
What does a single normal summon Medius do?
Show/tell me the board you guys are talking about.

>>542871712
Even better, explain the whole combo line

>>542871712
summon the power patrons from deck and 1 of them is a tuner

>>542871712
>>542871761
ns medius is full elvennote + fiendsmith combo on his own
its pretty good

>>542871712
Normal summon Medius in Elvennote leads to
>Baroness
>An Omni negate trap
>A monster Bounce and Hand rip
>Reducing the levels of all monsters on field by 3
>A one sided board negate+ locks monsters out of being used as material

>>542871712
Medius brings out the Elvennotes Power Patron. You synchro into Armades, pick up one of the elf sluts and do Fiendsmith combo before commiting into Elvennotes combo. You end with Caesar and the Elvennotes stuff which is a bunch of annoying shit including a handrip and a monster that blanks your board for the turn.

>medius has done nothing before
>suddendly becomes a problem the moment he can summon a tuner
ZONE WAS RIGHT
SYNCHRO WAS A MISTAKE

>>542871936
S Y N C H R O
H
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>>542872015
>OHNO BROS FIENDSMITH ELVENNOTES IS TIER 0
Anyways, Book of Eclipse in draw, response?

>>542872152
Ash

>>542872224
Chain Book of Eclipse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwzP_xpvZvk
>the new combo deck here is supposed to be the most intense and competent power players in our metagane, and shit, it's Fiendsmith or Mitsurugi, isn't it? It's just gonna go into Requiem or search Habakiri.

>Add elf girls to the game
>They immediately disturb the balance and fuck everything up
Of course. This is why Elves don't actually exist because if they did there would be wars over them all across the world all the time by men wanting to impregnate them.

Elven women are basically the collective invention of men's ideal vision of peak beauty.

>Fiendsmith deck in the year of our lord 2026
Why would I want to have to instascoop to Fuwalos

>>542872321
Solemn

>>542872478
Ok, new chain Book of Eclipse

>>542872359
same thing happened with adventure as soon as the elf bitch was revealed
they're too dangerous to leave alive

>>542872562
Barone

>>542872604
So...kill them with dick?

>>542872359
Elves are created from the ground up with rape and corruption in mind.

>fear mongering over deck that unequivocally just dies to nib
>also dies to ash/impulse
>also has no game into mulcharmies
Well for the TCG that is, good luck to the OCG for keeping Closed Heaven + Baronne legal

>Fiendsmith deck
>Dying to nib
Stopped reading there.

>>542872659
>OCG cuck
I accept your concession

>>542872913
>Lurrie
>Requiem
>Lacrima
>Engraver
>Sequence
And that's 5 :)

What does Elvennote do if Arc Light and Requiem get banned

>>542873227
Well what do you do once they pivot into their main line

>>542872359
Baalbuddy's elf shitposts are right

>>542873327
Chain Imperm target Ceasar >:)

>>542872913
In the tcg you have to commit into armades which means you get ass blasted at 5 before you can weave back into the mainline vs any two bodies doing the job in the ocg.
>just hard draw the fiendsmith cards
Droll, k?

>>542873269
>Arclight
?
Why would they care?
>Requiem
Doesn't matter, just go make Baronne instead of doing the uneeded FS line anyway.

>>542873418
Wait really?
That's it?
Just single imperm?

>>542873495
They can summon Arclight

>>542873547
Way less efficient than just making a Baronne.

>>542873547
Technically, sure. That seems like a huge waste of your resources tho.

>>542873547
Wouldn't that just end in them floodgating themselves?

>>542873625
>>542873668
>Seven brins back little guy, cut levels by 3
>Synchro with elf on board and little guy into arclight
>Still have synchro guy plus trap plus fiendsmith stuff
>>542873704
No? Read arclight again and tell me how it affects the deck.

>>542873668
>>542873704
You do know that Arc Light has an effect when it's sent to the GY right
>>542873495
>>542873625
We don't have Baronne

>>542873934
How wouldn't it floodgate you?

Getting real tired of this old
>I will simply have all the handtraps to stop your combo therefore this clearly very good deck is actually not good
larp.
Best decks in the game fold if I simply open all the correct handtraps to stop them. I guess they're not actually the best decks because I keep opening what I need to stop them.
Also, I always open the 1 card starter and they don't open the handtrap to stop me back.

Elvennote will clearly be good until Requiem and Arc-Light are banned.
You stop my Medius? Okay, they play like what? 8 Elvennote names and most of them are 1 card starters too if I recall and they special summon themselves. Then you can hard open the Fiendsmith/Mitsu engines too. Exact same reason why decks like Yummy/Mitsu are so hard to stop.
/dng/ and downplaying, name a more iconic duo. You cant.

>>542874108
How would it? Does it floodgate yummy when they end on it? The answer is of course not you dumb nigger.

>>542873934
>>Seven brins back little guy, cut levels by 3
>>Synchro with elf on board and little guy into arclight
>>Still have synchro guy plus trap plus fiendsmith stuff
Baronne is better, has a big body and you get to summon it as the 5th monster while still having plenty of plays.

>>542873938
OCG does have Baronne though.

>>542874189
Yummy is a dishonest deck though
Elvenotes is an honest deck

>>542871921
>>Baroness
JAAAAADGE HE'S PLAYING BANNED CARDS

>>542874192
>OCG does have Baronne though.
Yes? What does this have to do with what Elvennote will do here if we ban Arc Light and Requiem stopping it from pivoting into the two most popular engines

>>542874192
>Baronne
This is not gookland nigga.

>>542873938
And what ritual or ritual spell are you playing in your build.
>>542873934
If the TCG variant is need need of another omni negate then sure, but there's an opportunity cost in that you have one less Elvennote main deck monster to use on the opponent's or to make Junora.

>>542874284
>here
Original post didn't say here in the TCG though >>542873269
Only that if those get banned, which doesn't actually matter that much.

>>542874313
Well I live in SEA, so . . .

>>542874157
Dng said Tearlaments was shit on reveal lol

>>542874284
I dunno is the Souls engine really that relevant these days?
Like how would using Arc Light to search out Illsuion of Chaos do anything?

>>542874257
>Elvenotes is an honest deck
>anything with Faggotsmith
>honest

>>542874278
MD stays winning

>>542874447
I think that was /v/ or /mdg/ that was saying that.
Even /dng/ can't have been retarded enough to misjudge how broken Tearlaments were, right?

>>542874479
Fiendsmith is honest.
It requires at least a third of your extra deck

>>542874479
White Forest is based, honest and cunnypilled.

>>542874424
>>542874461
Do you not know what Mitsurugi is

>>542874629
Do you not know what Droll is?

>>542874586
faggot slopper cope kys
>>542874625
aplly yourself pedotroon

>>542874625
Extremely based post.

>>542874157
If you lose to shit like Droll and Nib all the time (vs decks that only lose to these in bad hands) you aren't making it into the meta, simple as that. If your deck is unbeatable except in exceedingly common circumstances than it's pretty blatantly not good. You also still haven't acknowledged the fact you get reamed by both good Mulcharmies lel.
>if you stop my starter then-
You clearly haven't advanced past first principles of playing yugioh because interrupting your shit mid combo is obviously more effective.
>what if i mitsu-
At this point you have no room for engine and you're getting circles ran around you by Yummy and Dracotail and Ryzeal that's still somehow relevant.

>>542856430
>Bastion
Who is this OC?

>>542874629
>Dedicating at least 10 cards and lowering what the base deck can do by itself in order to go into that engine who's synergy comes down to "It's strong and I'm not locked out of it"
Pop off I guess

>>542874713
>mitsu is bad because le droll exists
>anon suddenly goes from thinking the fucking arc light target is illusion of chaos to uh just open droll
Do you enjoy being retarded or what

>>542874447
They were shit on reveal.

>>542874998
Well you could use Arc Light to search out Sauravis as well I suppose.
It'd be better than searching out Habakiri

>>542874992
You can quite literally do the entire Mitsu line off the back of Normal Summon Medius alongside full Elvennote combo, also this discussion was quite literally in what Elvennote does in the TCG if access to both popular generic engines are locked out for them
Do you like being retarded or something

>>542875146
>Sauravis is better than Mitsurugi
Where do we keep finding these retards man

>>542875019
Holy fucking retard, kill yourself

Can Konami please just print another asshole rituals can dump for ED to plus?

>>542874447
>/dng/
>it's literally just one person and it's fucking lidl at that

>>542875363
>Just die even harder to the most popular handtraps of the format
I dunno man

>>542875552
>Yummy running Mitsurugi is really bad
Also what do you think the Elvennote starters even fucking do
Where do we keep finding these retards man

>>542875406
They didn't get better till later waves of support.

>>542875663
>Where do we keep finding these retards man
Have you not looked in the mirror lately?