/agdg/ - Amateur Game Development General
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 9:22:40 PM
No.543154404
First for Alice
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 9:23:35 PM
No.543154506
>>543155502
Merit = whatever makes Gabe more money
Good game = a game that can buy Gabe another yacht
What's the point of making games when it would take years upon years of hard work to reach the top 1% and even then, is a gamble that is not guaranteed to work.
Ducky
10/18/2025, 9:25:07 PM
No.543154679
>>543222446
The amount of FUD being posted in this thread about how hard it is to make even a little money, is astounding. It quickly makes me come to the conclusion that there is a coordinated, perhaps algorithmic component to the posts to greatly dissuade people from realizing the monopoly on mass media has ended.
Hi, I have an idea for a game and want to make all the assets from graphics to music but I need someone that could program it. If anyone wants to hear me out I can give a detailed description of the game.
I have an idea for the visual style that I'm pretty sure has never been done before so I'm looking for people who are curious and intetested in doing something new.
The game is at its core a mix between beat em ups, and semi-rpg games like Hard Times by Mdickie.
Graphically my idea is to do something very similar to Asterix XXL and Driver 3 for GBA
Pic related is a character design.
If anyone is interested I'm lerri00 on discord.
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 9:25:20 PM
No.543154708
>>543155143
>>543154208 (OP)
Gabe newell deserves every single billion he made, why?....... JUST BECAUSE OKAY?!
And no I don't care that indie studios literally do not exist because of valve.
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 9:26:01 PM
No.543154784
>>543156681
>number of vaporware "games" increases every year
>amount of quality games stays roughly the same
Sounds about right.
Ducky
10/18/2025, 9:26:37 PM
No.543154852
My ass hurts from game developing too hard last night...
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 9:26:56 PM
No.543154878
>>543171314
>>543154567
it's really not a gamble it's pretty obvious what ideas would reach the top 1%, the problem is people are actually retarded and will do their best to ignore that 1% because they think it's safer to do another crafting game or another roguelike deckbuilder
Everyone knows what the next minecraft or fortnite is
Ducky
10/18/2025, 9:27:11 PM
No.543154914
>>543155040
Guys, Iβm afraid there might be civil unrest and a potential coup when the general populace finds out Epstein financed and planned 9/11. Should I stop working on my game?
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 9:28:23 PM
No.543155040
>>543155402
>>543154914
people are too apathetic to do shit except vote for the other guy next time maybe
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 9:28:42 PM
No.543155081
>>543154567
If you do truly reach the top 1% of skill, you are guaranteed to make it. Maybe not every game you make will be a massive hit, but you will very easily be able to steadily pump out games that each yield revenue well above US median household income for your time spent.
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 9:28:53 PM
No.543155104
>>543160205
Fist for Alice
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 9:29:16 PM
No.543155143
>>543154208 (OP)
>>543154708
>another seething crybaby crying about valve edition
Boooriiing
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 9:30:16 PM
No.543155251
>>543154567
>What's the point of making games
expressing your soul
Ducky
10/18/2025, 9:30:53 PM
No.543155321
Does anyone else notice a productivity boost when using a buttplug?
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 9:31:37 PM
No.543155391
Alright I'm sick of everyone saying it's too difficult to submit to /v/3 so I hired this guy to help you out.
https://thev3expo.com/submit/
Ducky
10/18/2025, 9:31:42 PM
No.543155402
>>543155040
There are brainwashed glowies who donβt know the truth about the US, and sometimes act out in interesting ways if they arenβt closely monitored, say on 4chan perhaps, and then party banned before they do something stupid. I have no personal experience with that thoughβ¦
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 9:32:32 PM
No.543155502
>>543156290
>>543154506
>eat the rich wah
So true sister!
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 9:34:17 PM
No.543155681
>>543155847
Success breeds
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 9:35:00 PM
No.543155754
gaben should take 80% hes the only reason you can sell your game without him you would get 0% because where would you sell your game? going door to door asking people to buy it? lmao
without him you would be nothing
hes actually insanely generous by only taking 30%
Ducky
10/18/2025, 9:35:46 PM
No.543155838
Anyhow, Iβm working on these COMPLETELY FICTIONAL serialized games based on some stories some friends and I wrote.
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 9:35:50 PM
No.543155847
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 9:39:14 PM
No.543156223
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 9:39:54 PM
No.543156290
>>543155502
That's not what I said. I wasn't being ironic.
Ducky
10/18/2025, 9:40:50 PM
No.543156383
>>543157000
>so there I was
>underneath Area 51
>working on Zeta Reticulan ships!
>Bob, did you leak information about the F-117
>and now the feds are forcing you to be a clown?
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 9:43:24 PM
No.543156681
>>543154784
>vaporware
that word doesn't mean what you think it means
Ducky
10/18/2025, 9:44:27 PM
No.543156807
Hereβs a little sneak preview of some concept art for βbookβ #3
https://youtu.be/TN-pHAHqXDI?t=211
everyone is making fun of the bosci xisters...
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 9:46:17 PM
No.543157000
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 9:46:37 PM
No.543157051
>>543157279
>>543156840
It's really not that complicated.
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 9:48:31 PM
No.543157279
>>543157051
big news for the jobless
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 9:49:22 PM
No.543157362
Unity:
>Our new render graph is amazing and easy to use!! Want to learn more? Check the documentation
also Unity:
>Lol, you want documentation for this new feature?? We won't have it for you until that feature is deprecated
Ducky
10/18/2025, 9:49:42 PM
No.543157392
>>543159229
>>543156935
I actually kind of dig those characters.
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 9:50:15 PM
No.543157462
>>543157802
>>543156935
even a thread bully like fygoon gets fanart and me and my game? nothing.......
Ducky
10/18/2025, 9:51:48 PM
No.543157619
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 9:52:18 PM
No.543157657
>>543157769
meds ducky
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 9:52:24 PM
No.543157674
>>543154208 (OP)
Have (You) considered merchandising?
Ducky
10/18/2025, 9:53:19 PM
No.543157769
>>543157657
They just give me Benadryl and throw the paperwork away.
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 9:53:39 PM
No.543157802
>>543157462
all I got out of posting here was a schizo that found my instagram account and started messaging me about agdg
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 9:54:09 PM
No.543157854
>>543158186
>>543158221
>>543156840
Imaging watching shit like this even while devving instead, for example, comfy blow rumbling
how is it that only trainwiz seemed to be the open world dev that finished his game
Whats the secret to not burning out
Ducky
10/18/2025, 9:55:48 PM
No.543158056
>excuse me chaplain
>thereβs a mixup, Iβm not crazy
>im being attached by demons, in the Buddhist sense of the word, and punched one in the face
>ahh, got ya
>Iβll get you out as soon as i can
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 9:56:37 PM
No.543158142
>>543158426
>>543158762
>>543157908
I don't think Underspace can be considered open world. Isn't each system and station is instance with loading screens? There is no open overworld.
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 9:57:12 PM
No.543158186
>>543158480
>>543158891
>>543157854
>comfy blow rumbling
what
you mean rambling?
jon blow rambling?
me the fuck too. his lispy geeky voice is quite soothing. it's like leaving the radio one but it's very opinionated and sometimes adorably self-aware of his rambling
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 9:57:31 PM
No.543158221
>>543157854
youtube autoplay gets polluted with popular normaltroon shit after 50 videos or so, i have no idea why if i refresh it by going back to homepage and picking a new video it goes back to my algo
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 9:59:40 PM
No.543158426
>>543158723
>>543158142
by that logic TES isn't open world because the areas are separated with loading screens.
All done and its fully rigged with inverted hull.
The twintail textures are missing.
https://take-me-to.space/rOnw97VD.rar
Enjoy.
Now i can dev for DD.
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:00:08 PM
No.543158480
>>543158186
>me the fuck too. his lispy geeky voice is quite soothing. it's like leaving the radio one but it's very opinionated and sometimes adorably self-aware of his rambling
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:01:24 PM
No.543158603
>>543157908
train autism.
Never underestimate train autism.
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:01:37 PM
No.543158626
>>543158431
just remove the hair influence from the coat. I forgot.
Im tired
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:01:44 PM
No.543158637
>>543158431
basedbasedbased
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:02:13 PM
No.543158674
>>543158431
Make the fat booby purple haired gal too
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:02:38 PM
No.543158723
>>543158941
>>543158426
TES has a very large open world that you can spend countless hours seamlessly traversing across without loading screens if you choose not to fast travel.
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:02:55 PM
No.543158762
>>543158142
I'm glad I share this thread with people like you, it gives me confidence that if you're able to make a game, then I absolutely can.
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:03:13 PM
No.543158786
>>543159384
>>543205562
>>543158431
who is that supposed to be?
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:04:01 PM
No.543158891
>>543158186
>one
ON. OOOONNNNNNNNNNNN.
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:04:26 PM
No.543158941
>>543159332
>>543158723
Is Starfield not open world then?
>>543156935
Do the fell beasts not cower when in the presence of a king?
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:05:56 PM
No.543159095
Technically when you're traveling in Elder Scrolls there are loading screens, they're just so incredibly brief you wouldn't notice them unless you were moving very fast. Therefore, it isn't open world.
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:06:14 PM
No.543159120
happy caturday /agdg/. yesterday I got a basic attack system for my game created and today I'm taking some time to clean up my code and create a concept of Actions before I get too much further. I'm having a lot of fun learning about how to make games I hope you're having a good day too.
picrel is the IT department
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:07:14 PM
No.543159229
>>543160827
>>543161494
>>543157392
Oh I got loads more of these characters, 40 of which appear as enemies in the game.
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:07:37 PM
No.543159260
>>543158958
kings arent virgins
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:08:04 PM
No.543159309
>/agdg/ - /b/ without videogames
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:08:16 PM
No.543159332
>>543158941
Technically speaking, it's open world since it contains all the tech necessary like asset streaming, but practically speaking, it's not since none of the gameplay encourages players to engage with the open world, so no player does. Sad, really.
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:08:21 PM
No.543159339
>>543158958
They do not as the "king" in reality is nothing more than a mere courtyard jester.
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:08:52 PM
No.543159384
>>543158786
AI says Frieren. I don't need humans anymore.
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:09:24 PM
No.543159446
>>543157908
>Whats the secret to not burning out
Not project hopping.
Test progress Recap
https://litter.catbox.moe/uay2horurqprd1wb.mp4
>8 threads
>5 days
>180 files
>15-25 progress posts per thread
>22.5 progress post on average
>around 60 different games posted
>posts excluded: loli with microbikini
>favorite moment: anon doing the 256fes challenge and other anons caring about his progress
While looking for all the progress I realized that there's way more valuable posts than I expected, I took several screenshots in the process. Unfortunately, it's easier to engage in meaningless discussions than looking for them.
My recommendations
>ignore posts that have nothing to do with gamedevving
>progress anchor
>filters usage
>post your work regularly, even if the changes are minimal
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:11:39 PM
No.543159669
>>543159770
>>543158958
it's spelled "fel" with one L, mister i have good didaction dumbass nigga
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:12:26 PM
No.543159738
perhaps make a game insted
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:12:41 PM
No.543159770
>>543159669
Merriam-Webster's dictionary disagrees.
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:12:43 PM
No.543159771
>>543159587
>>posts excluded: loli with microbikini
CHADgoon, incinerate this entire thread
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:13:30 PM
No.543159854
>>543167957
>>543159587
I'm telling you, the death of the recap is what really killed these threads.
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:13:59 PM
No.543159915
>>543160270
What is an engaging way to do combat in a Horror RPG Maker Game?
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:14:46 PM
No.543159990
I tried adding multiplayer to the ball eater game. Yeah its def got to be copilot the chatbox is the dumb way to do it.
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:15:37 PM
No.543160082
>>543167957
>>543159587
Holy shit you literally made something comparable to /v/3 and you made it more focused. Can you make one of these every demo day so those faggots can finally leave.
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:15:52 PM
No.543160119
>>543160454
His silence on Cuffbust is deafening
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:16:39 PM
No.543160205
>>543155104
>Women when I explain to them how the Dragons' Alliance of Frydar Island defeated the Grand League of DarkWater Island, allowing the Fygoon Clan to rise to power and unify the scattered lands into a single Kingdom of Frydar Island
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:17:18 PM
No.543160270
>>543159915
Rape
Not enough rapelikes out there
Rape is totally blowing up rn
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:18:39 PM
No.543160403
>>543156935
this has femcel vibes
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:19:19 PM
No.543160454
>>543160704
>>543218904
>>543160119
I view Chris and Gavin as opposing factions in the gamedev meta discourse. Chris teaches you to optimize for the Steam algorithm while Gavin teaches you to optimize for YouTube/TikTok/Twitter/Twitch.
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:21:41 PM
No.543160704
>>543160836
>>543160454
this is big for the unemployed
Ducky
10/18/2025, 10:22:59 PM
No.543160827
>>543161626
>>543159229
I like the style, checked out the itch page. Everything done by you? Quite the accomplishment.
>>543160704
*Self-employed. Gamedev is my jobby.
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:25:18 PM
No.543161085
>>543161494
>>543160836
nah, posting about fygoon and other ecelebs is your jobby
your employee of the month in my book btw
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:26:00 PM
No.543161158
>>543161494
>Oh I got loads more of these characters, 40 of which appear as enemies in the game.
>I like the style, checked out the itch page. Everything done by you? Quite the accomplishment.
>someone said something I donβt like
>time for the green text
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:29:24 PM
No.543161494
>>543161876
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:29:57 PM
No.543161565
>>543161773
>>543161427
i'm just making a joke can you please pretend it's funny, please
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:30:20 PM
No.543161606
>>543161971
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:30:33 PM
No.543161626
>>543162007
>>543160827
Yep: I did the design, story, programming, scenario, music, modeling, drawing, web design, and painting on the page. Only two voices were not done by me as they were done by my best friends who are represented in-game, in a very exaggerated manner, as the two best friends of Fygoon. I'm hoping to make some dough so I can pay the two for their services and publish my game on Steam. They told me on a call that they were unwilling to be paid until my game was on Steam even though I offered it; they are quite the characters, but they are awesome friends for supporting me.
Ducky
10/18/2025, 10:32:05 PM
No.543161773
>>543162667
>>543161565
One of those was my post. I like the characters, LBA is one of the best games made, his characters are endearing to me.
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:32:06 PM
No.543161775
>>543162032
Gonna take a small break from devving and make a loli today.
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:33:10 PM
No.543161876
>>543161494
I am deeply offended.
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:33:55 PM
No.543161948
Cant wait until all the loli posters are rounded up and they put this site behind ID verification
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:34:05 PM
No.543161969
im da sloppa
da sideproject droppa
my game's a floppa
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:34:07 PM
No.543161971
>>543161606
I'd play this if it wasn't multiplayer American genre game
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:34:21 PM
No.543162007
>>543162667
>>543161626
>Yep: I did the design, story, programming, scenario, music, modeling, drawing, web design, and painting on the page.
the solodev plight, having to wear one billion hats
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:34:34 PM
No.543162032
>>543161775
basedbasebased
>>543154208 (OP)
It makes me sad to see good indie games go unsuccessful.
You can make a gem of a game but no one is going to hear about it if you don't have streamers advertising it. For example
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1496120/Phantast/
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:35:47 PM
No.543162151
>>543162071
>hidden gems don't exi--AACK!!!
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:37:27 PM
No.543162326
>>543163317
>>543162071
>19.2 hrs on record
That's the final nail in the coffin for average playtime theory. It's over.
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:37:40 PM
No.543162346
>>543161427
>someone said something I donβt like
>time for the green text
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:40:34 PM
No.543162667
>>543161773
Thanks for the comment. I would say my game's style is also comparable to that of Ecstatica, but my style developed independently.
>>543162007
I see it as no issue. When I get bored of programming, I can pivot to writing, then art, then compositing, etc., thus still working on my game.
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:46:40 PM
No.543163317
>>543162326
dude played 2.4 hours of that, decided it was unplayable, then played another 16.8 hours
keep in mind that in order to succeed, you have to think like these "people" too
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:51:04 PM
No.543163802
>>543163926
>>543167957
>>543159587
>>posts excluded: loli with microbikini
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 10:52:18 PM
No.543163926
>>543163802
i look like this
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 11:09:54 PM
No.543165754
>>543225149
Am I gonna make it?
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 11:12:36 PM
No.543166041
curious, very curious
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 11:14:52 PM
No.543166258
>>543166564
im nervous
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 11:17:44 PM
No.543166564
>>543166258
on the surface you look calm and ready to drop flops
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 11:19:13 PM
No.543166707
>>543167943
Balancing is like one of the top 3 hardest parts of dev.
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 11:23:11 PM
No.543167108
>>543171643
>>543159587
incredible work anon, well done, but you should know that furry ball-busting game was a shitpost, I've seen it multiple times, it's at least 2 years old. Other than that isn't one of the audio tracks used in Jargon?
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 11:23:27 PM
No.543167128
>>543167313
>>543169128
>>543161427
>>someone said something I donβt like
>>time for the green text
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 11:23:36 PM
No.543167145
>>543167342
>>543168849
I'm changing my diet to the same meal that stealth bomber pilots eat so that I can maximize game development time and minimize the time I spend expelling bowel movements. What are some game development tips like this you can share?
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 11:25:12 PM
No.543167313
>>543169128
>>543167128
>>>someone said something I donβt like
>>>time for the green text
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 11:25:30 PM
No.543167342
>>543167482
>>543174501
>>543167145
>shit vision
>IBS
>6'2"
i could NOT be a pilot
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 11:25:56 PM
No.543167390
>>543171643
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 11:26:57 PM
No.543167482
>>543167342
it's a good thing you're in a game development general and not a test pilot general
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 11:31:02 PM
No.543167910
>>543154567
because I already spent years upon years and reached the 1%
if you're too weak just give up
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 11:31:22 PM
No.543167943
>>543166707
howd you get a picture of my cat
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 11:31:33 PM
No.543167957
>>543168250
>>543159854
the main problem with this format is the video length, but since our problem is another one I'll try something different
>>543160082
with that reasoning you'll be seething about me eventually
>>543163802
sorry, I still feel bad about it
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 11:31:44 PM
No.543167979
>>543154567
>What's the point of making games when it would take years upon years of hard work to reach the top 1% and even then, is a gamble that is not guaranteed to work.
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 11:31:53 PM
No.543167991
God I need a haircut so bad but I have no money left.
Hurry up fatfuck gabencunt, give me my payout.
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 11:34:20 PM
No.543168250
>>543167957
Stop being a pussy you'd do better than Betz and probably have more success if you don't try to add le shitposts between it.
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 11:35:15 PM
No.543168350
>>543154680
getting programmers should be much easier than artists but you should really post more than one thing, usually artists post portfolios. Art consistency is a huge aspect of game art that you just don't get from a single image.
but if you got some sod adding you already then w/e
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 11:36:57 PM
No.543168524
>>543168962
The youtuber I contacted actually said he'll try my game and he redeem the ksteme key
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 11:40:13 PM
No.543168849
>>543169070
>>543167145
I currently swap between two places. In one place, the food I eat makes me shit about once a day. In the other place, I shit every 3~6 days.
I do more work in the place where I shit every day.
Also, please don't forget that the toilet is a great place to come up with ideas. All of my best ideas are ideas I had while shitting.
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 11:41:25 PM
No.543168962
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 11:42:21 PM
No.543169070
>>543171391
>>543168849
>All of my best ideas are ideas I had while shitting.
Noted, I've adjusted my strategy.
On days where I need to write lots of code or do refactoring I will eat a bland turkey sandwich. Then, when I need ideas I will switch to something that makes me blast diarrhea
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 11:42:56 PM
No.543169128
>>543169956
>>543167313
>>543167128
me too me too!
ahem
>>>somebody has saided a thing I like not
>>>timing for teh aquamarine letters!
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 11:49:27 PM
No.543169821
>>543171643
>>543159587
>https://litter.catbox.moe/uay2horurqprd1wb.mp4
wtf now I'm pumped to work on my game so I can see it in this (I've been saying this for six years but no progress yet)
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 11:50:40 PM
No.543169956
>>543169128
>me too me too!
>ahem
>>>>somebody has saided a thing I like not
>>>>timing for teh aquamarine letters!
Anonymous
10/18/2025, 11:52:53 PM
No.543170156
can we limit the >spamcopy posts to maybe five a thread idk let's have a little respect for the place where we all sit in steaming shit with each other ey
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:01:09 AM
No.543170974
>>543171818
>>543162071
Are you kidding me that looks like shit
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:03:30 AM
No.543171238
Use case for >spamcopy posts?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:04:13 AM
No.543171314
>>543171531
>>543154878
>pretty obvious what ideas would reach the top 1%
Mind sharing a few?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:05:02 AM
No.543171391
>>543171669
>>543169070
you also have to account for
>shitting too quickly means not enough time for ideas
>anything that would un-relax you will also fuck you up
>anything that would distract you like phones cannot be allowed
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:06:21 AM
No.543171531
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:07:17 AM
No.543171643
>>543167108
>was a shitpost
kek, I was doubtful with some games but I never suspected about that one
>one of the audio tracks used in Jargon?
two actually, I did a transition similar to Balatro so it seems like one
>>543167390
thanks
>>543169821
>for six years
make pong, now!
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:07:20 AM
No.543171646
>>543174501
Do I really have to get IBS to succeed as a solodev?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:07:28 AM
No.543171669
>>543173369
>>543171391
I've decided that the best course of action is actually to take on a diet that is so volatile that it allows me to manage my development and ideation time using the pomodoro method.
25 minutes of development time
5 minutes on the toilet
after 4 of these cycles 30 minutes on toilet
repeat
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:08:52 AM
No.543171818
>>543172012
>>543172232
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:10:35 AM
No.543172012
>>543172989
>>543171818
Regardless look at that thing it was drawn in ms paint with a mouse
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:12:49 AM
No.543172232
>>543172989
>>543171818
It's true, almost every agdg game looks better, sorry.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:20:09 AM
No.543172989
>>543172012
>>543172232
Why are you falling for that bait? The game is 5 years old, itβs probably not his.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:23:43 AM
No.543173369
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:23:59 AM
No.543173390
>ESLs can't comprehend obvious jokes
good grief...
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:24:03 AM
No.543173405
>>543173918
There are no such thing as hidden gems, because if something were a hidden gem that deserved to succeed, then it wouldnβt have failed in the first place.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:28:52 AM
No.543173918
>>543173405
Thatβs dumb, publishers crater good games all the time on purpose to eliminate competition.
Considering joining some other gamedev communities.
It seems forums (which, despite being a zoomer, I find superior to most modern social media options) are sadly out of style, outside of official forums dedicated to unity or unreal, so this is gonna be tricky.
No, I don't want to use Reddit again.
There's probably a fuck ton of discord servers I could join but I'm gonna have to make a separate discord account from my current one.
In fact, I might have to make a new internet persona/screenname to do this, which is gonna be a ton of work figuring out because LITERALLY EVERY SCREEN NAME IS TAKEN NOW. JESUS CHRIST.
So, I'm wondering whether I should even bother joining communities right now (especially because they might be prone to ugly things such as drama).
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:30:39 AM
No.543174095
I have shareware games from the 80s written by bedroom coders that I still play. If one person plays it, itβs worth it.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:32:09 AM
No.543174247
>>543174020
Tigsource forums might still have some life left in them.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:33:54 AM
No.543174425
>>543174020
anon that's a very whiney and vague post you left us here. just try something out instead of dismissing it without trying, we can't do the trying for you
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:34:38 AM
No.543174501
>>543171646
this is me ->
>>543167342
AND my game flopped so no, inconclusive
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:35:23 AM
No.543174586
Do we all have IBS?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:36:18 AM
No.543174684
>>543174020
some of those discords require a unique phone number to be tied to it
why not go to a real life gamedev place?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:36:41 AM
No.543174721
>>543174917
Apparently in my area, I need to register a business if I am profiting regularly. This sucks.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:38:25 AM
No.543174917
>>543175096
>>543174721
That sounds like a nice problem to have desu
>>543174917
NTA but of all the zeldas to coompost a random image of as an unrelated attachment, why twilight princess zelda? She is the OBJECTIVELY worst zelda. At least coompost OOT (adult) or LTTP/LBW Zelda
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:41:24 AM
No.543175201
>>543175330
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:42:38 AM
No.543175330
>>543175201
No, anon. I'm not baiting, I'm dead serious. TP Zelda is the LAMEST zelda (I mean the girl, not the game, never played the game. My favorite zelda GAME is wind waker). Post LTTP Zelda art instead.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:44:22 AM
No.543175485
You now have the urge to make an ADVENTURE game
https://youtu.be/9H6yUZLQfes&t=136
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:51:09 AM
No.543176131
>>543175096
>OOT (adult)
>(adult)
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:54:32 AM
No.543176472
>>543175096
Im just going to play twilight princess for that little imp slut
I wrote a small web service that sits on an AWS EC2 instance and listens for game servers. So now I can have an in-game server browser and can join different servers.
I still need to lock the server browser service down so people can't just spam fake server listings at it.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:04:05 AM
No.543177504
>>543178296
>>543177105
What engine is this? Is this your first game? Would you recommend doing a multiplayer game for your first game?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:11:32 AM
No.543178296
>>543177504
1. Godon't
2. No
3. No
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:16:00 AM
No.543178775
>>543181296
>>543202771
>>543177105
nice, how much that costs ?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:17:02 AM
No.543178884
>>543220310
So I was on Instagram and I think I just witnessed the first Alice thirst trap ever made and there is a girl spamming the comments about how it belongs in a museum and shit. I mean, I like Alice as much as the next guy, but good lord that girl is fucking crazy. I mean, like, tone it down, you're not beholding the Sistine Chapel.
Ducky
10/19/2025, 1:17:25 AM
No.543178930
>>543177105
Shit, you made an isometric shooter too? I quit, canβt compete in this market. /s
Looks good.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:20:07 AM
No.543179203
Damn, Russian women on Instagram fucking outclass me at Aliceposting. When it comes to dedication to the art, I'm a damn amateur.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:20:32 AM
No.543179249
Its over for artcels youve been beat by the slopa
Made more funny portraits. I may not even use them all, but at least now I have an anchor for everyone else.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:28:53 AM
No.543180081
>>543154567
I've been watching a lot of deep video essays about westerners discovering obscure games, the type of games that's found in a dumpster and they get popular eventually. Maybe we will have that opprtunity too. We may never be talented writers or creators however there is always a chance to strike gold.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:29:46 AM
No.543180151
>>543180241
>>543180027
What AI do you use?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:30:38 AM
No.543180241
>>543180475
>>543180151
My natural stupidity of course.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:30:57 AM
No.543180282
>>543180545
>>543180027
Oh god this is AI isn't it
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:32:13 AM
No.543180438
remember way back in the day when people would call stuff that was like minecraft "mineycrafta". Do people still say stuff like that?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:32:31 AM
No.543180475
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:33:15 AM
No.543180545
My one day side project jam got delayed by one more day because I ran into a stupid bug that took all day to debug.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:35:50 AM
No.543180836
>>543160836
Do you actually earn from it
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:39:53 AM
No.543181235
>>543182234
seeing fygoon thirst after random internet girls is somehow more cringe and creepy than when bocchiposters do it
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:40:23 AM
No.543181286
i gib up on gamedeving bye guys
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:40:26 AM
No.543181296
>>543178775
So far nothing, the service runs on a t3.micro which is within the free tier. If I were to have to pay for it I think it'd be about $100 per year. I'm not sure what kind of instance I'll need for a full game server with 32 slots, but testing the game server with a different t3.micro it wasn't even breaking 10% CPU so I'll have to do some testing.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:40:52 AM
No.543181331
>liking girls is weird cringe and creepy
homo
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:45:36 AM
No.543181790
>>543182023
>>543182384
>>543174020
Why do you have to create a new persona? Why not use your current persona or your real identity? Only nsfw and politically incorrect devs need fake identities
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:47:46 AM
No.543182019
>>543182646
Do you guys think a 3D platformer could work with just a left joycon?
I've been thinking about making an erotic game that can be played with just one hand for input. This controller scheme would be optional of course.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:47:48 AM
No.543182023
>>543181790
I'm not a porndev or into politics, I just prefer having separate internet personas for separate things
Though yeah I could just use my real identity
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:48:42 AM
No.543182125
>>543182293
>Where are you putting the other joycon?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:49:47 AM
No.543182234
>>543181235
he cant even drink and his brain is not fully developed yet, cut him some slack
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:50:23 AM
No.543182293
>>543182125
The right joycon wouldn't be put to use since the other hand is doing something much more important.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:50:51 AM
No.543182342
>>543180775
I dong care if thats a troon would
You look like you came out from resident evil
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:51:18 AM
No.543182384
>>543192372
>>543181790
What exactly qualifies as politically correct anymore? About 50% of the population agrees that our government has been subverted by Israel. I feel way more correct than I ever have.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:53:53 AM
No.543182646
>>543182771
>>543182998
>>543182019
Why do coomdevs always go for platformers
I get that you are tired of rpgmakerslop but canβt you think of something with a little more class
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:55:07 AM
No.543182771
>>543183423
>>543182646
3d platformer is actually rare because its physics heavy and most gamedevs are dumb
Testing 256x256 textures.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:57:03 AM
No.543182963
>>543183137
>>543182857
How do you make models like this?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:57:22 AM
No.543182998
>>543183684
>>543182646
I'm a tendie, I like happy bouncy platformers.
I could go for an action style game but that's not what I want to make
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:58:55 AM
No.543183137
>>543182963
with blood, sweat and cum
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:59:04 AM
No.543183153
>>543190416
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:00:21 AM
No.543183270
Anyway lots of old 3D games use one stick for movement and camera. Itβs called tank controls. Forward/back is movement, left/right is turn. Double flick back sometimes quick 180s
The camera often has additional treatment for specific room shapes and encounters. Auto-turning to frame scenes, enemy lockon, etc. but thats a lot of complexity with plenty of room for jank, on top of being widely disliked.
most developers are happy to cut it out for the much cheaper and more expected twinstick style controls
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:00:54 AM
No.543183324
>>543182857
i look like this
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:01:25 AM
No.543183372
This general sucks cause no gaem
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:01:44 AM
No.543183405
>>543182857
Built for RPG (Rape-Playing Game)
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:01:53 AM
No.543183423
>>543186205
>>543182771
Im questioning anonβs decision to combine coomdev with platforming mechanics. Thereβs no throughline. Itβs like adding platforming to a farming sim. Whats the point?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:04:26 AM
No.543183684
>>543182998
you are letting nostalgia get in the way of your design
I donβt think any of us are immune to it but itβs a dangerous game. Thousands of steam flops a year are just some dev blindly following their own esoteric taste
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:07:35 AM
No.543183983
Damn Keeper did worse than the an /agdg/ game.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:10:01 AM
No.543184240
Ball eater eats balls snd can make bread but then what. Its supposed to br an economic sim.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:11:58 AM
No.543184427
>>543184807
games need to use hardware peripherals/accessories more
I implore you, fellow pc game developers, to use shit like printers, microphones, webcams, etc for input/output
I.E look at how some handheld nintendo consoles had accessories that were used by games back in the day
>>543184427
You just reminded me all that buttheart when ultrakill dev added buttplugs support
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:17:08 AM
No.543184970
>>543184807
>buttheart
Mydyslexia keeps progressing...
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:17:11 AM
No.543184975
>>543185334
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:20:28 AM
No.543185334
>>543187130
>>543184975
The game can send signals to sextoys throgh bluetooth or something like that
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:21:37 AM
No.543185456
>>543184807
my bambi sleep interactive AI generated feminization sim WILL have buttplug AND chastity cage AND Hasan Piker Collar support.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:29:42 AM
No.543186205
>>543183423
>to combine coomdev with platforming mechanics
You get to see a girl's giant tits bounce and sway around while she's doing acrobatics at different angles, alongside using her curves to interact with various obstacles. Power-ups could also change her appearance to keep arousal flowing.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:39:20 AM
No.543187130
>>543187315
>>543185334
But why???? The game isn't porn, right? Why add official IOT SEXTOY SUPPORT to your game that's supposed to be SFW? ARE MODERN DEVS RETARDED
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:41:32 AM
No.543187315
>>543187130
the fanbase is full of degens
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:45:39 AM
No.543187690
>balatro with sextoy support
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:55:43 AM
No.543188740
>minesweeper with rectal hand grenade
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:12:07 AM
No.543190302
>>543190914
>GAME but done with AI
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:13:25 AM
No.543190416
>>543183153
that's kanna thoughbeit
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:19:23 AM
No.543190910
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:19:24 AM
No.543190914
is the white flash too hard on the eyes or is it fine, let me know
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:31:36 AM
No.543192069
>>543193504
>>543191231
White flash doesn't make me feel uncomfortable, but what is it for, parrys? I think a screen wide effect for that is too much, maybe localize it to around the player or make it an arc pointed at the new projectile direction?
>godot
wasn't this game in unity? been awhile since I played it on DD
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:32:37 AM
No.543192161
>>543192249
>>543193504
>>543191231
why would anyone play this over hotline miami 2
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:33:03 AM
No.543192187
>>543193504
>>543191231
Your game has real visibility issues. Maybe some thicker outlines could help without having to revamp the entire artstyle. But yeah the light is a little too harsh even though it's grey. Maybe it's because it's so sudden, Maybe you want to make it a little transparent. I'd experiment a bit.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:33:36 AM
No.543192249
>>543192161
are you retarded? it's an open arena, not a room by room one hit kill rush game
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:34:52 AM
No.543192372
>>543192857
>>543194670
>>543182384
I don't post about politics. I have changed my mind about many things, and I don't want a permanent record of things I believed in. If people want to attack you, they won't care about nuance or that you have changed your mind. I'm not American, but Mozilla's cofounder was ousted for donating to get prop 8 passed in 2008 (bans gay marriage). It passed with a majority voting for it in liberal California. A year later, Obama ran on a marriage should be between a man and a woman platform, but Brandon Eich was ousted in 2014 over this. Mainstream political views might be considered downright evil 10-20 years down the line, and you don't have the fame or significance to prevent someone from causing a headache if you make it. I prefer to express my dumb takes as anon. I don't publish my games under my real name, but it's fairly easy to get my personal info from the llc I use to publish them on steam.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:40:42 AM
No.543192857
>>543192372
Ah, I donβt want to βmake itβ. Iβm publishing under someone else with a pseudonym.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:47:38 AM
No.543193484
>>543182857
she looks like she rapes male orcs
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:47:54 AM
No.543193504
>>543193573
>>543192069
It is for parries, it's not really disorienting, as you can still see the enemies and projectiles pretty clearly even when the effect is active, I just needed to know if it made players uncomfortable, thanks for the feedback
>godot
it was ALWAYS godot (the right game engine)
>>543192161
top down = hotline miami hurrr durr im fucking retarded look at me guys
>>543192187
it for sure has visiblity issues, i'm planning on making a 3d model for every enemy, (so they have attack animations lol) and giving them a thick outline as well as extra visibility options in the settings, i'll try making it gradual/greyer also, thanks for the feedback
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:48:44 AM
No.543193573
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:56:06 AM
No.543194204
I'm afraid
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:58:39 AM
No.543194456
look behind you
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:59:20 AM
No.543194514
dead hobby dead general
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:01:05 AM
No.543194670
>>543192372
>Mainstream political views might be considered downright evil 10-20 years down the line
Well the pendulum is swinging hard to the right and the very paradigm of the post-war international liberal consensus might be ending within the next decade.
Cancel culture I think is dead, at east the vulgar display of power and cultural hegemony that the left enjoyed in 2015 or so is over, back when they'd spend all day trawling though every post you ever made and then launch a campaign against you for the gay joke you made in 2007. In contrast for the right to cancel you, you have to be a complete ghoul by gleefully celebrating someone you disagree with getting shot in front of his family and a crowd of people. Leftoids are in full retreat and quickly becoming culturally irrelevant as the old words of power like fascist and racist don't work anymore.so I don't think we're going to return to 2015-style cancel culture.
So you'll probably be alright unless you're just embarrassed about how cringe you used to be.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:02:22 AM
No.543194773
>>543195023
>>543196640
if notch got away with adding an obvious jewish caricature to his game that is still innocently loves by millions to this day
surely i can get away with shitposting on 4chan a little bit
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:05:12 AM
No.543195023
>>543196180
>>543194773
If villagers behaved like Jews and actively kept trying to let zombies and creepers into your base then people probably wouldn't love them so much
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:13:28 AM
No.543195796
>>543113864
Trying to convert the game's success into a youtube slop revenue stream as well was just the smart thing to do and if you had a game that made it, you'd probably at least consider it too.
What he flubbed was the execution. He clearly got lucky but instead of showing the appropriate level of humility and memeing on himself, he instantly started trying to act like some cool dev guru. I made it through half of one of his videos (before I even knew who he was coz I watch a lot of dev slop on youtube) and stopped it coz he sounds like a fucking moron. It makes me wonder if he was at least smart with his money. It might be a good long while before he gets another big hit of income like from his first game, if at all.
Even if you're a hobby Chad, that's something you should plan for just in case you have money suddenly dumped in your lap. If even just ONE of my games is a moderate success, a good chunk of the money will be going straight on our mortgage.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:15:55 AM
No.543196026
>>543196257
my game will feature Dante from Devil May Cry, do you think I will get in trouble?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:17:35 AM
No.543196180
>>543195023
They have their own methods to keep themselves safe (just going indoors at night, aka living in a militarised ethnostate). But even if the worst should happen, the player is meant to be a US zogbot soldier whose job it is to protect the villagers when they stray into villages.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:18:22 AM
No.543196257
>>543197181
>>543196026
no, he's public domain. go for it.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:19:22 AM
No.543196348
>>543199454
>>543166295
Imagine having this pissy attitude just because you don't know how to make games, therefore automated systems built upon mass plagiarism should be able to do it for you and make you free money lmao.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:19:53 AM
No.543196406
>>543196598
gamedevs must smash down the systems that domesticate the mind
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:21:55 AM
No.543196598
>>543196802
>>543200190
>>543196406
We're not legalising pedophilia you faggot.
Ducky
10/19/2025, 4:22:19 AM
No.543196640
>>543194773
Thanks Notch, sorry for calling you Norwegian earlier.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:24:09 AM
No.543196802
>>543196598
>projecting
kys
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:28:38 AM
No.543197181
>>543196257
thanks, it's gonna be sick
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:51:35 AM
No.543199190
>>543199292
>>543154208 (OP)
if your game don't have a girl as cute as Arisu then i don't care about your game.
What the fuck am I doing with my life bros. I neet, so I should've made my game by now. But I wake up and play valheim, get bored and browse aggy, play starblast, then play valheim again. I'm wasting my time and failing to *add gamedev skills*. My game is never going to be finished at this rate. I keep telling myself it's going to get better every time I get close to an heroing, but it gets worse. I grow older and end up being a bigger loser. Almost 27 now.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:52:44 AM
No.543199292
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:52:58 AM
No.543199315
>>543199585
putting the "amateur" in /agdg/
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:54:30 AM
No.543199447
>>543205712
>>543199231
just wait a bit longer and inspiration will strike! then you'll work like a madman until your game is done.
still waiting at 36
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:54:34 AM
No.543199454
>>543196348
the irony is that there probably isn't a working artist in the industry right now that isn't using ai in their pipeline somewhere. especially concept artists, you would be retarded to not use ai for photobashing.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:56:01 AM
No.543199585
>>543199315
this is acceptable.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:59:14 AM
No.543199902
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 5:02:15 AM
No.543200190
>>543196598
not pedophilia, but incest.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 5:03:53 AM
No.543200353
>>543159587
I'm glad to see my loli with microbikini game wasn't excluded.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 5:05:36 AM
No.543200539
>>543200808
>>543199231
Honestly anon, just focus on getting a job and some stability. gamedev is clearly not giving you the serotonin or dopamine you need in order to succeed.
Your brain isn't malfunctioning, it's giving you a clear direction that you're a fucking loser and need to change. You fix your life and your brain may start producing those chemicals again when you do gamedev.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 5:07:54 AM
No.543200771
>>543201349
>>543219316
progress
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 5:08:15 AM
No.543200808
>>543201663
>>543200539
>reproduction at the bottom
uh oh
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 5:10:47 AM
No.543201070
>>543201249
>>543159587
my game got excluded only because i'm mexican
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 5:12:50 AM
No.543201249
>>543201070
bokube was included albeit
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 5:13:59 AM
No.543201349
>>543202976
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 5:17:32 AM
No.543201663
>>543200808
just jack off
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 5:30:42 AM
No.543202771
>>543226983
>>543178775
not anon, but amazon will rape you in terms of egress (bandwidth out of the server).
the one good thing about ec2 is that it has a fast cold startup, so spinning up a new instance per session is an option, it's well documented (AI could probably write the code for you and get it working with the risk it does a bad configuration and you lose $), and it supports more languages and countries than other services.
This blog post includes a list of alternative services, but it does not apply to games, just website stuff.
https://decovar.dev/blog/2023/12/03/oracle-cloud-nasty-piece-of-shit/
I have my own project and I think I will go with oracle (even with all the issues, the free tier is too good to be true, even with 10tb monthly upload bandwidth cap before you start paying, I'm gonna try to make my setup not depend too much on oracle specific SDK's so I could move away from it maybe OVHCloud or something)
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 5:33:03 AM
No.543202976
>>543203086
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 5:34:32 AM
No.543203086
>>543205717
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 5:34:34 AM
No.543203087
>>543180027
soul
ignore the soulless replies
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 5:37:42 AM
No.543203345
>>543203564
>>543204130
where are the indie extraction shooters?
I mean obviously not the MMO kind, but surely co op or single player ones could do well too?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 5:40:26 AM
No.543203564
>>543208831
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 5:45:06 AM
No.543203973
>>543180027
this is cute, but will only reflect positively if the game isn't ass
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 5:47:05 AM
No.543204130
>>543208831
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 5:50:40 AM
No.543204460
almost fell for a pointless refactor scam
im using a scriptableObject for something that should really just be a class
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 5:55:01 AM
No.543204838
Why does dude have to constantly post 24/7? No one appreciates him or it and mentions it to him every single time yet he keeps doing it. Show your parents lil dude and let them intervene already.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 6:02:14 AM
No.543205425
>>543206368
>>543156840
Played this exact vid in front of my friends once and they all went through the whole thing completely straight-faced. Not even a single chuckle.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 6:02:32 AM
No.543205447
>>543206440
How's your Balatro-like Cloverpit-like Megabonk-like BallxPit-like Slots&Daggers-like game going anon?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 6:03:55 AM
No.543205562
>>543158786
>>543158431
why is this simple design so sex
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 6:06:07 AM
No.543205712
>>543206328
>>543199447
worked for me. I only had to wait for about 10 months. maybe you're quoting me
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 6:06:12 AM
No.543205717
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 6:07:44 AM
No.543205820
>>543206468
>>543180775
>ywn make babies with a girl like this as your wife
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 6:14:26 AM
No.543206328
>>543205712
the longer you wait, the better the game will be because it's like a damn bursting.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 6:14:47 AM
No.543206363
>>543206554
>want to make agdg fanart
>itch is down
oh well there's always next year
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 6:14:53 AM
No.543206368
>>543205425
that's a pretty appropriate response that shit was confusingly unfunny
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 6:15:57 AM
No.543206440
>>543205447
I went for pick 1/4 instead of pick 1/3. this innovation will shake up the industry
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 6:16:20 AM
No.543206468
>>543205820
i am currently doing this
the difference between us?
i have made pong
Here is your settings menus bros. I think I need to get it to work on a controller now (which a huge bitch) but then bring this settings menu prefab to all regular level pause menus too.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 6:17:28 AM
No.543206554
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 6:17:55 AM
No.543206585
>>543206636
>>543206515
putting the A in Amateur Game Development
BokuDev
10/19/2025, 6:18:30 AM
No.543206636
>>543207006
>>543206585
WHATS WRONG WITH IT
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 6:19:13 AM
No.543206687
>>543206515
im gonna be a grandpa before this game finishes
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 6:19:40 AM
No.543206727
friendslop and pick 3 should not be combined (a la risk of rain)
power discrepencies between players can end in one player having a lot of fun while someone else is bored getting carried
irrefutable
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 6:19:59 AM
No.543206746
>>543206515
>1732x974
>100Hz
>gyazo.com
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 6:21:38 AM
No.543206885
>>543206515
no thanks, I'll just hold shift while i click the exe
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 6:21:40 AM
No.543206887
>>543207368
>>543206515
boku the screen capture watermark gave me cancer
here is a good open source one i like
https://getsharex.com/
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 6:23:08 AM
No.543207006
>>543206636
If you don't plan on adding more settings then the huge amount of space is a waste and all of the options are over the place you could've just neatly packed it together. The spacing between buttons at the start is different too.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 6:27:44 AM
No.543207368
>>543206887
I don't even blame him for that. It's fine. I mean who uses gyazo or puu.sh in 2025, but who cares.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 6:37:18 AM
No.543208156
>>543206515
>click developer blog
>it just opens >>>/vg/agdg
I suck at texturing and I suck at character design.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 6:46:10 AM
No.543208831
>>543203564
>>543204130
cool, never heard of these ones
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 6:46:19 AM
No.543208843
>>543208932
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 6:47:07 AM
No.543208902
>>543210678
>>543208787
show wireframes
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 6:47:33 AM
No.543208932
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 6:47:34 AM
No.543208934
>>543208787
how will you get good at character design?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 6:49:49 AM
No.543209087
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 6:52:56 AM
No.543209304
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 6:53:12 AM
No.543209334
>>543208787
why is she smiling like that
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 6:55:59 AM
No.543209529
>>543209643
>>543210295
>5+ replies to ai generated bait that's posted once or twice a thread every time
are you guys retarded or bots?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 6:57:17 AM
No.543209643
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 6:59:51 AM
No.543209826
putting vital HUD stuff in all 4 corners so streamers don't know where to put their window
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 7:04:18 AM
No.543210140
search running processes for OBS, check its RAM space to place the HUD where the camera is
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 7:06:16 AM
No.543210295
>>543210869
>>543209529
i just don't understand why ai sucks so bad at generating 'lowpoly' models. it's like it half understands the style but it adds these big sweeping curves.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 7:13:58 AM
No.543210869
>>543210295
It's because it's done after the fact. Most AI uses many different algorithms and "AI" and combine it into one. Image part segmentation and so on.
The most important reason for the high poly models is because the AI starts out with some latent space SDF modelling then when it creates a concrete model it uses techniques similar to marching cubes finding the boundary of where that "space" is. In doing so it creates a huge initial model consisting of 10000000s of vertices which the model can mold.
Afterwards optimizations and decimation of the surplus of superfluous vertices is done (which could be done by another AI algorithm too, but this is work in progress).
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 7:15:56 AM
No.543210993
>>543211110
>>543251926
lil guys.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 7:16:57 AM
No.543211059
>>543210678
where is the microbikini
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 7:17:38 AM
No.543211110
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 7:17:53 AM
No.543211137
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 7:20:33 AM
No.543211331
>>543211597
>>543210678
i cant tell if its you or another anon
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 7:24:22 AM
No.543211597
>>543211331
different pedophile
For day 18 I have made a large purple crab. Please enjoy my large crab. Tomorrow I will try to make it so that he can pick up and throw the car.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 7:38:31 AM
No.543212543
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 7:43:25 AM
No.543212904
>>543206515
>Ten years in dev and just now getting to the settings menu
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 7:49:54 AM
No.543213340
>>543213824
All this time for a five hour long fucking captain toad ripoff
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 7:51:53 AM
No.543213462
>>543214112
>>543211930
I enjoyed your crab
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 7:54:01 AM
No.543213581
>>543214925
You guys are stressing too much. just code some junk in javascript with chatgpt
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 7:58:05 AM
No.543213824
>>543214685
>>543213340
I mean is any game here particularly ambitious.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 8:03:01 AM
No.543214112
>>543214840
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 8:03:41 AM
No.543214141
>>543214428
>>543214439
>comments that didn't age so well
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 8:09:13 AM
No.543214428
>>543214141
gavin left those comments
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 8:09:20 AM
No.543214439
>>543214594
>>543214141
S to spit on the dumbfuck eceleb drone
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 8:12:10 AM
No.543214594
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 8:13:35 AM
No.543214685
>>543215996
>>543213824
Not since underspace left
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 8:16:13 AM
No.543214840
>>543214112
Thank you for enjoying my crab. I enjoy your use of action lines. Please look forward to seeing what the crab is capable of in the future.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 8:17:37 AM
No.543214925
>>543213581
..javascript?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 8:21:18 AM
No.543215173
>>543216247
>>543211930
Neat crustacean.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 8:34:25 AM
No.543215996
>>543216053
>>543214685
He sold almost 400 units which means 400 people liked it enough to buy it
Such is the nature of digital shit.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 8:35:05 AM
No.543216053
>>543216274
>>543215996
>400 units
anon...
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 8:38:25 AM
No.543216247
>>543216415
>>543215173
Go away phony CHUD
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 8:38:55 AM
No.543216274
>>543216381
>>543216053
It says right there 369 reviews
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 8:40:25 AM
No.543216381
>>543216427
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 8:40:50 AM
No.543216415
>>543216664
>>543216912
>>543216247
Hey fanboy. Have no clue what to model next? Go ahead, make this dope render with your skillset. Only the REAL creator of Fygoon can make something cool like this.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 8:40:59 AM
No.543216427
>>543216587
>>543216381
So how many people bought it then?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 8:43:36 AM
No.543216587
>>543216867
>>543216415
chris chan energy
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 8:45:44 AM
No.543216728
I'm deving..
I'M DEVING!!
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 8:46:26 AM
No.543216780
>>543216664
He's absolutely chris chan 2.0
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 8:47:45 AM
No.543216867
>>543216587
Damn okay thats excellent then
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 8:48:29 AM
No.543216912
>>543216968
>>543217117
>>543216415
> can't even match his own art style for more than few characters
man you suck lmao
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 8:49:24 AM
No.543216968
>>543217117
>>543217183
>>543216912
>>543216664
I don't see you modeling.
>>543216912
>>543216968
I wonder if AI could help him
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 8:52:02 AM
No.543217147
>>543216664
Goon will NEVER reach Chris Weston Chandler's level
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 8:52:42 AM
No.543217183
>>543217214
>>543216968
What would you like to see me model?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 8:53:14 AM
No.543217214
>>543217274
>>543217183
little girls obviously
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 8:54:03 AM
No.543217274
>>543231915
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 8:57:39 AM
No.543217482
>I ran out of UV space
How the fuck is this thread dead on a Saturday night?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 9:10:59 AM
No.543218258
can I gamedev if I'm not indian?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 9:12:32 AM
No.543218349
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 9:12:50 AM
No.543218360
>>543218912
>>543217117
where do you get all those Cris pictures?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 9:14:03 AM
No.543218429
>>543218208
busy playing cuffbust.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 9:20:16 AM
No.543218758
>>543154680
everyone has ideas
you have no gamedev experience = 99.9999% chance your idea is shit
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 9:22:46 AM
No.543218904
>>543160454
Both of them have some good information but at the end of the day you have to make a game people want to play for it to sell.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 9:22:55 AM
No.543218912
>>543218360
cris isn't real
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 9:27:42 AM
No.543219176
>>543199231
You like the idea of making games and being a "game developer" more than actually doing the deed. In other words you're delusional and lost on what you actually want to do with your life. Take this moment to take a step back and look at your life as a whole. DO NOT fall back into the same routine of wasting time. If you don't take action NOW you will find yourself in the same exact situation 5 or 10 years from now but the despair will be 1000x worse and there's a high chance you'll kys.
Find something YOU WANT TO DO ENOUGH THAT YOU WILL START DOING IT.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 9:30:02 AM
No.543219316
>>543200771
kill yourself aislopper
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 9:38:50 AM
No.543219862
>>543220552
This place has crab in a bucket mentality I swear to god.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 9:47:19 AM
No.543220310
>>543178884
you have 15 minutes to explain how this is germane to the subject of video games and development thereof
timer starts now
>>543219862
Women and low-T manchildren require the constant emotional support of others. High-T independent thinkers will fail or succeed solely on their own merits.
Hugboxing is the true form of crab. Ugly loser flopdevs want other ugly loser flopdevs to waste away their lives in the same way they themselves did. None of you will make it. Your dreams are incompatible with reality. You're a bunch of ugly fat women caked in pounds of terrible makeup telling each other how beautiful you are in the club restroom.
High-T men do not need seek validation. They want to hear more about their flaws and mistakes so that they can work to fix them.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 9:56:06 AM
No.543220786
>>543221229
>>543218208
Too much crabposting, it just gets old. Even the last two threads the OP is crabposting. It's boring. There has to be more to a community than just a couple schizos telling everyone to give up lmao. At least if you want people to actually check in on a saturday night.
And I actually don't have any problem with bocchi posting but when you scroll through and see bochi images and fygoon images and "just give up" rants from the same crab who has been here 10 years it's like come on. This general is cooked.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 9:56:56 AM
No.543220829
you can just use whatever you want
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 9:59:29 AM
No.543220965
>tfw you say something is cooked just because others say it
nooooooooooooooooo
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 10:01:15 AM
No.543221060
Nobody wishlisted my game yesterday but someone boughted it.........
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 10:04:11 AM
No.543221234
>>543249226
>>543218208
Why wouldn't it be? Do you guys work on your game 24/7 and never have any rest?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 10:04:48 AM
No.543221283
why isn't there a 'I wish I never bought this' list on steam?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 10:07:41 AM
No.543221450
>>543221647
>>543222667
Any tips for doing major refactors? I always feel so overwhelmed when I need to rip out a piece of core functionality so I can redo it. There are dozens of errors and it stresses me out.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 10:11:12 AM
No.543221647
>>543221763
>>543221450
If it's major enough, it's often better to just scrap everything and do a completely rewrite in a fresh project. It can go much more quickly than trying to untangle aged spaghetti.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 10:12:54 AM
No.543221763
>>543221917
>>543221647
>If it's major enough, it's often better to just scrap everything and do a completely rewrite in a fresh project.
bad advice
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 10:13:59 AM
No.543221828
>>543221229
>200+ IQ
>You deving tonight? You eating tonight? You have already made it
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 10:15:20 AM
No.543221909
>>543199231
>What the fuck am I doing with my life bros. I neet, so I should've made my game by now. But I wake up and play valheim, get bored and browse aggy, play starblast, then play valheim again. I'm wasting my time and failing to *add gamedev skills*. My game is never going to be finished at this rate. I keep telling myself it's going to get better every time I get close to an heroing, but it gets worse. I grow older and end up being a bigger loser. Almost 27 now.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 10:15:28 AM
No.543221917
>>543221763
Cope. You'd rather let the wound fester than rip the bandaid off.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 10:16:32 AM
No.543221986
>>543222091
>>543217117
Qrd on this person
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 10:18:16 AM
No.543222091
>>543221986
>>>/wsg/6002843
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 10:20:02 AM
No.543222207
>>543208787
>>543210678
Stop being harsh. It's better than anything I've made. I like the textures.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 10:24:16 AM
No.543222446
>>543222970
>>543154679
The mindbroken spammer just can't come to terms with him having made a bad game/a game the market doesn't want
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 10:24:33 AM
No.543222465
>>543223391
>>543223847
>>543220552
And yet crabs are the insecure bitches who want to drag everyone down with them, curious
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 10:25:12 AM
No.543222510
gumo
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 10:27:48 AM
No.543222667
>>543224046
>>543221450
Backup your project before refactoring and document every step of what you're doing and how things function before and after changes. If you can explain it inside and out, you won't ever be overwhelmed.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 10:31:05 AM
No.543222890
>>543223391
>>543221229
See what I mean. This guy spends actual energy making these gay meme templates to try and validate his obsessive shitposting. This isn't game development.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 10:32:21 AM
No.543222970
>>543222446
What game did he make? Enlighten us, bicht.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 10:34:24 AM
No.543223114
the worst thing i've seen my whole life.
>>543222465
>>543222890
Many of the "crabs" have already made it or at least have upmost confidence that they themselves will make it. None of the losers who spam "WAGMI" have made it yet. Which group do you think is inside the bucket?
The most motivating advice I've seen here at /agdg/ is the fact that gamedev is so insanely hard that it filters out the vast majority of participants. If gamedev wasn't so hard and just about any retard could make it with enough dedication, then it wouldn't be nearly as rewarding for those of us who are actually competent AND dedicated.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 10:41:44 AM
No.543223574
>>543223806
>>543220552
>>543221229
>none of you will make it
This is what you say but
>"we all gonna make it"
nobody says that.
Most game developers know it's not a hopeless endeavor, but it's also not a charity. Tiny brains however have a difficulty thinking in anything but absolute terms.
The crab has a tiny brain. And yet it wants to be heard the most among big brain devchads.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 10:43:23 AM
No.543223678
>>543223391
>None of the losers who spam "WAGMI"
This isn't a thing. You're mentally ill.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 10:45:12 AM
No.543223785
>>543223936
>>543223391
What's a crab?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 10:45:40 AM
No.543223806
>>543223992
>>543223574
>none of you will make it
Specifically, that's "none of you crying about crabs". Some of us will make it, or have already made it. Those of us that have it within ourselves to make it aren't going to be bothered by any kind of demoralization posting and in fact interpret demoralization posting is motivational posting.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 10:46:15 AM
No.543223847
>>543224015
>>543222465
Exactly. You don't see any of us devs pulling on eachother saying "COME ON EVERYONE WE ARE ALL GOING TO MAKE IT"
But the crab actually does desperately cling to our legs insisting everyone is going to fail or most people will fail, trying so hard to convince us of something. So insecure. So sad.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 10:47:41 AM
No.543223936
>>543223785
Anyone who dares to provide negative feedback. The ultimate life form.
>>543223391
>Many of the "crabs" have already made it or at least have the upmost confidence that they themselves will make it
Even if you've already made it (lol) why crab? Who cares if some rando on the internet tries to make a game. Why be a whiny sissy who tells people to give up?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 10:48:34 AM
No.543223992
>>543223806
Nobody is motivated or even slightly affected by your garbage. It's boring. You're not affective, you're not interesting. Take your meds.
>>543223847
>Exactly. You don't see any of us devs pulling on eachother saying "COME ON EVERYONE WE ARE ALL GOING TO MAKE IT"
oh really, bitch?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 10:49:31 AM
No.543224046
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 10:49:56 AM
No.543224076
>>543199231
Been there, done that, almost 33
You have been addicted to fast relief through your computer all your life
Think "I need to have less going on" rather than "I need to be doing more"
Your screen time is taking up your productivity, plain as
>get an app/website blocker
>go through the ~week long withdrawal
>get into a habit of just doing the tiniest thing every day, even if it's downloading another reference picture or guide or writing one line to an ideas .txt
That's it. Also being a need is not helping, you have all that time but paradoxically the stress from how much you "should" be achieving every day suppresses action more than if you only had 3-4 hours a day
So I'd also get a job
Finally, you're unlikely to actually commit to something like this even if itsspelled out in this reply and even if another hundred anons who have been through it tell you the same. You'll likely just keep heading towards rock bottom and then, maybe, you'll feel the pit in your stomach telling you it's time to stop the addiction and become someone marginally more productive. So keep going as you are, be even more wasteful, double down on the over indulgence and stare st your screen and phone for even more time per day. Good luck god bless
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 10:50:11 AM
No.543224091
>>543224617
>>543223963
It's just sad to see. Have you ever tried fixing Cris? So many of the posters were are on the same level, and they're all wasting their life away at a fruitless endeavor.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 10:52:04 AM
No.543224212
>>543223963
>Who cares if some rando on the internet tries to make a game.
The crab does. Crabs are leaving the bucket and this makes him panic. Like a frightened kitten who doesn't want to be left alone in the box while the other kittens are being adopted. It's quite sad where the crabs inner motivations really come from. A truly desperate and pitiful state of being.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 10:54:46 AM
No.543224360
>>543224589
>>543224015
So this is why you're crying about WAGMI lmao. You're just admitting that your crabposting is even more inauthentically motivated than we could ever imagine.
What a petty and dreadful existence. What a jealous, jealous little creature.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 10:58:27 AM
No.543224589
>>543224701
>>543224360
>So this is why you're crying about WAGMI lmao.
I'm not the anon crying about WAGMI, I don't give a shit. But I do have a problem with you lying about how yesdevs "never actually pull everyone together, we're all lone wolfes on our own!" and when confronted with proof you just backpedal and try a "no u".
Just very dishonest and faggot behaviour.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 10:58:51 AM
No.543224617
>>543224815
>>543223963
>>543224091 (cont.)
Btw, I didn't start out this way. /agdg/ turned me into this kind of person. I've wasted countless hours providing free technical tutoring to so many of you. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. So few devs here actually has a vision or basic design sense. It's just painful to watch. Without a vision, you're not cut out for being a solo indie developer. If you want to stay in gamedev, you'd be way better off working under someone who does.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:00:03 AM
No.543224701
>>543224898
>>543224015
>>543224589
>nooooo these gamedevs are trying to support and encourage eachother they say "we are all gonna make it" nooooooo
Why do you care lmao
And nobody spams WAGMI in these threads. So once again, you're mentally ill.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:00:16 AM
No.543224710
>>543225083
NOOO I DEMAND A HUGBOX GIVE HEAD PATS AND TELL ME IM A GOOD BOY
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:01:59 AM
No.543224815
>>543226315
>>543224617
>I've wasted countless hours providing free technical tutoring to so many of you
Delusional.
>You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink
But master, you are our teacher, we do drink your precious water remember? You tutored us!
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:02:28 AM
No.543224846
if you don't make 10 million dollars from your indie game, you've wasted your life. what, do you think this is some kind of hobby!? euuuggghhhh!!!!!
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:02:49 AM
No.543224867
>>543225254
Some of you were clearly not loved and duly encouraged to improve as children and it shows... it's gross lol please keep the childhood trauma to yourselves
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:03:17 AM
No.543224898
>>543224701
Okay, so you're just a retarded tranny faggot who's gonna backpedal and act as if you never said the dumb shit.
Go suck Shodanon's cock or whatever.
Anons I'm looking for a game to play that will inspire my own sim game
Something cozy but also genuinely fun
Interlocking systems and gears under the surface if you know what I mean
I've been out of the loop
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:05:34 AM
No.543225064
>>543225217
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:05:51 AM
No.543225083
>>543220552
>>543224710
>spends his life fretting over people "hugging" eachother over the internet
Curious.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:06:50 AM
No.543225149
>>543165754
Your invite tp /pgdg/ is in the mail.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:06:57 AM
No.543225158
>>543225030
be more specific. sim game is too broad. what do you want to do in the game?
When I post the steam games released versus 1k reviews chart I'm not saying
>Its impossible, just give up
I'm saying
>Wow steam's algorithm is unfair dogshit and we should raise awareness and demand better
The problem is every game dev is entrenched in the boomer "Fuck you! I got mine!" mindset and they genuinely believe anyone who fails must have failed purely do to not trying hard enough and anyone who succeeded in the past would do so today so nothing will be done.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:07:57 AM
No.543225217
>>543225260
>>543225064
Not like a life sim but something more like (this is going to be waffly cause I don't know the words) there are things in place like restaurant npcs that make and bring food and clear tables etc, and they interact with customers all on their own, and customers interact with other things too, and the player can be involved such that the npcs won't approach customers you're already serving, or you can head into the kitchen and fix up/finish a plate of food yourself. A systems game? Imsim?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:08:28 AM
No.543225254
>>543224867
some encouraged too much and got delusions of grandeur (me)
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:08:35 AM
No.543225260
>>543225383
>>543225217
i wouldnt know i dont play fake "games" for women
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:09:43 AM
No.543225340
>>543225194
Fuck you, I got mine!
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:10:36 AM
No.543225383
>>543225260
Not sure what's fake about that but by God if it's popular for women I'm 200% invested now
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:11:28 AM
No.543225445
>>543225194
>we should raise awareness and demand better
I think we should make videogames. There are plenty of more worthwhile things to get all crybaby activist about.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:11:51 AM
No.543225465
>>543225194
>and anyone who succeeded in the past would do so
What's funnier is that this isn't true. It hasn't ever been, not even in the best of times. Outside of a literal handful of exceptions like Jon Blow, if you succeeded in the past you're more likely to fail NOW even if you did everything right, simply because the market is rigged so much against you now.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:13:14 AM
No.543225548
my game will succeed in spite of steam's algorithms
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:13:26 AM
No.543225565
>>543225194
>The problem is every game dev is entrenched in the boomer "Fuck you! I got mine!" mindset and they genuinely believe anyone who fails must have failed purely do to not trying hard enough and anyone who succeeded in the past would do so today so nothing will be done.
how do you know its not true though? people make some absolute trash, and are incredibly deluded about how good their trash is
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:13:37 AM
No.543225575
>>543226480
>>543225030
captains of industry
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:16:58 AM
No.543225801
>>543225979
>>543225194
>they genuinely believe anyone who fails must have failed purely do to not trying hard enough
What does "trying hard enough" have to do with anything. Nobody talks like that. If you fail, your game wasn't a good concept, it didn't have an audience, you didn't market it, etc. etc. Nobody says boomer things about trying hard or bootstrapping here.
Blaming steam for not finding a way to get you guaranteed sales with their storefront algorithms makes no sense. Why should they be forced to wave your game in front of people who have already proven they don't want it. Because you "tried hard"?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:18:33 AM
No.543225898
The crab is a failure. Bitter and jealous. This is their lot in life. The meme is earned.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:19:20 AM
No.543225945
WAGMI
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:19:50 AM
No.543225979
>>543225801
>who have already proven they don't want it
Have you proven it though?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:20:21 AM
No.543226014
>>543226270
you should learn about steam's algorithms, create a game that becomes successful, and use your success as a point of respect to convince valve to change their system
it's the only way
prove you're not a whiny nobody flopdev, make a successful game, earn respect, and then convince valve to increase discoverability of unique hidden games
it's not even about helping these games make more money, it's just about making it easier for games with low revenue to be discovered
maybe a throwaway "discover new games" page with a grid view of unique titles with decent review scores and low revenue would suffice
i just dislike how hard it is to organically find cool games on steam that aren't grossing $100,000 a week
6 months after release, if your game is rated very positive or better but under 500 reviews, you should appear on the 'hidden gems' tab
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:24:38 AM
No.543226265
>>543226653
>>543226679
I know this may be shocking but.. I.. I ENJOY gamedev
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:24:48 AM
No.543226270
>>543226323
>>543226679
>>543226014
>unique hidden games
flopslop that hasn't been marketed lol
>>543224815
Perhaps, I formed this opinion much earlier in life. I used to do volunteer mentoring programs teaching robotics to kids. I taught at both middle-class suburban schools as well as poorer and special needs schools. They quality of the kids at each was day and night. The primarily white and asian kids at the nicer schools were curious, well-behaved, learned quickly, and could quickly become active independent contributors to the project without their hands needing to be constantly held. The primarily brown and black kids at the less nice schools weren't even all that bad in terms of behavior, but they just learned so much more slowly, and never really got to the point where they would be able to do things on their own without being explicitly instructed on what to do.
As a group that cries about browns, I had originally assumed /agdg/ was more like a nice suburban classroom, but in reality, this is a special needs class. NGMI nodev retards like
>>543225194 cry about luck and nepotism, but the real luck and nepotism is simply being born to middle-class white or asian parents in a first world country, being encouraged to perform well in school, and staying active in extracurricular activities, many of which would've helped you develop gamedev-relevant skills since an early age.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:25:45 AM
No.543226323
>>543226421
>>543226270
Post your game?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:27:27 AM
No.543226421
>>543226596
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:28:10 AM
No.543226479
>>543226778
What the fuck
Cuffbust 2? Or is it gonna be the biggest cozyslop?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:28:11 AM
No.543226480
>>543225575
Thank you, this one is really far into the deep end though. I'm basically thinking of a simple restaurant sim but with npc workers I guess, and an independent worker-customer system
This may be a bit too big for a first game
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:29:32 AM
No.543226582
>>543226943
>>543226207
Not every polished rock is a gem.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:29:42 AM
No.543226596
>>543226421
So nodev. Got it.
Kill yourself btw.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:29:43 AM
No.543226597
>>543227238
>>543226315
>the crab was just /pol/ in disguise all along
jannies...
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:30:35 AM
No.543226653
>>543226265
seriously? you enjoy having an idea, putting a plan into motion, iterating and seeing what was once a glimmer in your brain, come to life on your screen? NGMI
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:30:55 AM
No.543226679
>>543226862
>>543227013
>uses chatgpt to cry on reddit about their game underperforming
interesting
https://www.reddit.com/r/IndieDev/comments/1o9vuj0/is_it_okay_to_feel_proud_when_only_1500_people/
>>543226265
me too
>>543226207
that'd be a fun experiment, i support this idea
or maybe just add a second discovery queue that only shows games with low review counts
>>543226270
probably, but am i the bad guy for still wanting to see these games? who gives a fuck if the developer's an autistic retard who doesn't market their games? or if the players were whiny faggots who left negative reviews?
i don't care if a game flops, i still want to be able to organically discover it, i don't want to only ever see the games that are grossing top revenue
it's fucking boring
do you not enjoy playing shitty unique little games? do you only play popular FOTM shit like a brainless sheep?
genuinely, tell me, what's the problem with making it easier to discover shitty games?
>durrrr they flopped so they deserve to die
don't fucking remove my ability to enjoy unique games just because the developer's autistic, who gives you that authority?
make shitty flops easier to find
it's fun to explore weird games
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:31:55 AM
No.543226759
>>543227247
>>543226315
>As a group that cries about browns, I had originally assumed /agdg/ was more like a nice suburban classroom, but in reality, this is a special needs class.
Agdg is not a "group that cries about browns" lmao
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:32:07 AM
No.543226778
>>543226479
multiplayer survival crafty buildy? chris is cumming buckets
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:33:22 AM
No.543226862
>>543227238
>>543227247
>>543226679
>don't fucking remove my ability to enjoy unique games just because the developer's autistic, who gives you that authority?
make shitty flops easier to find
it's fun to explore weird games
Anon, you're talking to a brown zoomer retard who worships algorithms like gods. If the machine doesn't tell him "it's okay to like this because it's popular" then he loses his mind and doesn't know what to do.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:34:41 AM
No.543226943
>>543226582
for you. gem is a bit subjective.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:35:15 AM
No.543226983
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:35:36 AM
No.543227013
>>543226679
>i don't care if a game flops, i still want to be able to organically discover it
Click genres and subgenres in the store and find your unique titles. It takes 10 seconds.
You do are if a game flops, it's literally why you're crying about steam not handing out enough participation trophies.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:36:55 AM
No.543227104
>>543227278
>>543226207
Seems easy to abuse
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:38:18 AM
No.543227191
>>543227591
>You do are if a game flops
Bro had an entire merch shop ready...
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:38:54 AM
No.543227238
>>543226597
Like I said earlier, tiny brains. They always do this too
>>543226862
>these guys must not be white, that's why we can't blackpill them with our trvkes!
Just confirms what we already know. Crabs are to be laughed at and ignored, here as they are everywhere else.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:39:02 AM
No.543227247
>>543227748
>>543226759
Half the posts here are crying about indians or pretending to be indian when we don't have a single known indian developer here, but it's true that /agdg/ is not a monolith. It doesn't help your case though when you have posts like
>>543226862 precisely 2 posts below your own.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:39:24 AM
No.543227278
>>543227454
>>543227104
those easy methods could be mitigated
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:39:37 AM
No.543227298
>>543227429
>>543206515
where's key rebinding
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:40:03 AM
No.543227323
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:40:09 AM
No.543227328
how come the focus is always on the algorithm for causing your game to fail, but never on the game itself? dont you think thats more likely?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:41:42 AM
No.543227429
>>543227298
hold shift when starting the game. nta but irrc he's on unity 2017, so that will work.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:41:50 AM
No.543227440
>>543227590
I kinda feel like all the decisions I'm making, are the same as what manorlord's is going with.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:42:01 AM
No.543227454
>>543227682
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:43:59 AM
No.543227590
>>543228648
>>543227440
If you make the exact same game but cheaper I will buy it
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:44:00 AM
No.543227591
>>543227676
>>543227191
>typo saar you made typo saar I win saar
You truly are the spirit of jeet.
And transexuals.
All of the things you obsess over, it's for a reason.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:45:10 AM
No.543227676
>>543227786
>>543227591
that's a grammatical error not a typo
every eop knows only esls make mistakes like that
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:45:15 AM
No.543227682
>>543228417
>>543227454
games with evidence of manipulated or artificially inflated reviews ( review bombing, mass key distribution) could be excluded
>I think increasing organic discoverability of low performing games on Steam would make the platform more enjoyable to use for people who enjoy playing unique and obscure games
>>You're just blaming Valve for your game flopping bro git gud and stop crying lmao
You people are not human.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:46:05 AM
No.543227743
>>543227218
maybe if he spent that time instead making a good game
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:46:07 AM
No.543227748
>>543228182
>>543226315
>>543227247
>me and this other retard talk about peoples skin color when we're getting rolled in a debate
agdg is not a group that cries about browns. Two of you crabs being the usual poltards does not represent agdg.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:46:45 AM
No.543227786
>>543227948
>>543227676
>that's a grammatical error
anon...
>You do care if a game flops
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:47:18 AM
No.543227828
>>543227218
bro really put the cart before the horse
he should pivot to a corporate role in marketing, he clearly despises video games and game development at this point
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:47:19 AM
No.543227829
>>543228450
>>543227724
discovery of low performing games is already fine, thats how i know you are just using it as an excuse when what you really mean is "daddy gaben should promote my flop even though no one wants it"
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:48:04 AM
No.543227889
>>543227724
>I think [buzzwords]
Woah that's crazy you should be given a million dollars, Steam should hire you right now.
>discovery of low performing games is already fine
Why are browns like this? Why do they worship corporations and algorithms so much and think they can never do no wrong?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:48:55 AM
No.543227948
>>543243846
>>543227786
i'll be honest, i did not read your original post, carry on then
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:49:18 AM
No.543227980
>>543227218
I bought the cock one. teachers gonna freak
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:50:52 AM
No.543228054
>>543228450
>>543227724
>>543227902
>AAAIEEEEE YOU ARE NOT HUMAN SAARS YOU ARE BROWN
lollll
This guy thinks he knows how to make us more successful on steam
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:53:01 AM
No.543228182
>>543227748
I'm not the one complaining about browns. I get called brown by nodevs like
>>543227902 because I think good games that people want to play deserve to succeed and bad games that people don't want to play deserve to flop. I get called brown because as a nepobaby who's got mine, I attribute my succeed to my own talents and efforts, and I attribute your failures to your lack thereof.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:56:03 AM
No.543228368
>>543227724
>>I think increasing organic discoverability of low performing games on Steam would make the platform more enjoyable to use for people who enjoy playing unique and obscure games
>>>You're just blaming Valve for your game flopping bro git gud and stop crying lmao
>You people are not human.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:57:01 AM
No.543228417
>>543229718
>>543227682
High review count metrics are protected from manipulation because the number of accounts required makes detection of manipulation both more expensive to the attacker and easier to detect. Since "hidden gems" would have a low review count it would be easy to manipulate the score discretely by using a low number of tailored reviews, so it would be cheaper to manipulate. Meanwhile on Valve's side statistical analysis methods to identify foul play would be under-performant due to the reduced amount of data available per entry inherent to the low review count, to justify manual moderation you'd need the page to generate a very large increase in revenue from hidden gems being discovered as the low cost of manipulation means the number of submissions in need of moderation would be much larger. Hiring a large number of people to review low submission count games would also simply not fit in Valve's profile of having a reduced workforce.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 11:57:35 AM
No.543228450
>>543228920
>>543229680
>>543227829
>discovery of low performing games is already fine
No it is not. What makes you say this? Do you search for low performing games? I do. It's not easy to find them. How do you find them? What do you do to discover games with low review counts?
Take the three games linked below. How would you discover these organically?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2900410/Early_Mellow/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3659990/hatenet/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1165750/PAGAN_Autogeny/
I will hold the opinion that Steam would receive endless benefits from allowing games to be sorted on the store not only by genre/tags, but also by review count, release date, and review score. There is no argument against this. I say this from the perspective of a video game enthusiast, not a hopeful developer. I have absolute confidence in the performance of my games. I am not worried about making more money. I am worried about enjoyable experiences being hidden due to suboptimal discoverability systems.
The fact that I need to use websites like vginsights.com to find new games should be telling. Steam's discoverability is shit for people with unique tastes.
>>543228054
You completely fail to understand the point. It is true that good games rightfully succeed, and bad games rightfully flop. This is intentional due to the design of Valve's promotion algorithms.
The point is that after a bad game flops, it becomes excessively difficult to discover organically. This does not mean that it should receive algorithmic promotion on Steam, but instead, that the game search functionality should be improved to allow for players to filter for games not only through genre and tags, but also by review score, review count, and release date ranges.
There are games that flopped that could still be enjoyed by niche communities. These games do not end up being discovered by these communities due to Steam's suboptimal search functionality.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:00:57 PM
No.543228648
>>543228713
>>543227590
I'm not making it in 3d
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:01:21 PM
No.543228676
>>543206515
That's cute, gj.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:01:47 PM
No.543228713
Are there any solid arguments against increasing the complexity of the search feature on Steam?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:04:48 PM
No.543228894
>>543228781
waste of developer effort when barely anyone would actually use it
>oh boy i cant wait to play this game that no one else wants to play, let me go filter out all the good games so i can find this one
said no one ever
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:05:03 PM
No.543228920
>>543229141
>>543229347
>>543228450
>>543228781
Your problem is that you're a delusional hipster who hates popular things. You feel like you need to present yourself as someone who appreciates obscure things, when in reality, you don't. Post your play times for those three games you just linked.
>inb4 never played
If you won't even play them, why do you expect anyone else to?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:08:15 PM
No.543229141
>>543228920
Same for guy who complains that Banquet for Fools flopped but refuses to post his hours played. These posters donβt actually believe what they type.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:11:22 PM
No.543229347
>>543229495
>>543233750
>>543228920
>ad hominem
You lost.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:13:38 PM
No.543229495
>>543229717
>>543233750
>>543229347
Nah, I'd win.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:16:49 PM
No.543229680
>>543229990
>>543228450
>I will hold the opinion that Steam would receive endless benefits from allowing games to be sorted on the store not only by genre/tags, but also by review count, release date, and review score
Endless benefits meaning "appease one person who likes the idea of finding buried flop games". Steam does what it knows is profitable. Everything you've been saying is irrelevant to gamedevs who actually want to make games that are played, we don't care what happens in the bottom of the landfill of flop games. Ultimately, you just want to argue
>>543228781
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:17:03 PM
No.543229697
>tranime tard
So it really is not human.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:17:29 PM
No.543229717
>>543230739
>>543231642
>>543229495
>appeal to site culture
anyone using this image in an unironic or refutatory fashion must never be allowed to debate again
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:17:30 PM
No.543229718
>>543230503
>>543228417
before entering the hidden tab, they could go through a more rigorous check, certain games may be flagged by the system and checked manually. pattern analysis on reviews/account age/number of games owned etc. LLMs could check the text of the reviews too(though I can see this backfiring with current day LLMs which are easily manipulated)
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:21:43 PM
No.543229990
>>543230217
>>543230234
>>543229680
profitable does not mean good for the gaymer. I hope you are well versed enough in the games industry to know how this could be the case. but you're right, steam would not receive benefits that outweigh the opportunity cost of not doing so.
it's hilarious that consumers always think storefronts fucking over their producers means they only ever have the consumer's interests at heart.
the hidden game tab. what did it send you to?
http://store.steampowered.com/explore/random/
for me? it sent me to Diablo 4.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:25:03 PM
No.543230217
>>543230724
>>543229990
Good for gaymers != gaymers will buy. You're basically promoting gaming veganism without even being a gaming vegan yourself. Health foods are not as profitable as slop foods.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:25:16 PM
No.543230234
>>543230724
>>543229990
>profitable does not mean good for the gaymer
Yes it does, it's why steam sales are a thing, saving gamers billions of dollars every year.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:26:34 PM
No.543230319
>>543230549
>>543230717
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:29:27 PM
No.543230503
>>543230971
>>543229718
Requiring rigorous manual checks before appearing in the "hidden gems" page would make it perhaps redundantly similar to the curator system that is already in place, which I believe it's how Valve intends you to discover hidden gems.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:30:16 PM
No.543230549
>>543230319
If that's a hidden gem I've just shat out and flushed a diamond (it's very boring, very unoriginal) though it is perfect for the autists who love the repetitiveness and predictability... maybe that's the market to aim for you non-hobbyists
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:30:29 PM
No.543230573
>>543227902
>aaaiieeee change the algorithm saars change it now save me with the magical power of your algorithm
"No"
>aiieeeee you are brown saar you worship the algorithm you are not human!
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:32:36 PM
No.543230717
>>543230319
hmm... needs more jungle breakbeat
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:32:42 PM
No.543230724
>>543230928
>>543230217
I advocate for the cattle to be corralled into making purchases of marginally higher than zero taste, so the industry is still compelled to make something other than what it does today.
>>543230234
the more you buy, the more you save
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:32:51 PM
No.543230739
>>543230932
>>543233439
>>543229717
Your IQ is at least 30 points below my own, and so we cannot have a peer-level conversation either way. Our axioms do not align. You have a very childish, ignorant, and idealistic worldview. You wrongfully believe "protesting" and "raising awareness" can make a difference. Go and read this:
https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/07/30/meditations-on-moloch/
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:34:12 PM
No.543230829
je suis fat and gay
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:35:03 PM
No.543230896
>>543231670
>>543251292
I fucking suck.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:35:30 PM
No.543230928
>>543231337
>>543230724
>I advocate for the cattle to be corralled into making purchases of marginally higher than zero taste, so the industry is still compelled to make something other than what it does today.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:35:35 PM
No.543230932
>>543231010
>>543231237
>>543230739
you're confusing me for someone else, retard.
>protesting, raising awareness
your insistence of autistic amounts of blackpill here is a sign that you feel threatened by the desire of people to raise their voice against valve. at the very least, you believe that if it does succeed, it would prove your entire worldview incorrect which would be fatal to your ego, which is why you wish for it to never even be tried.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:36:09 PM
No.543230971
>>543230503
curators are not punctual. it may be years before they discover your vegetales inspired dead MMO immsim
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:36:48 PM
No.543231010
>>543231201
>>543230932
I'm sorry that your desires are incompatible with reality.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:39:50 PM
No.543231201
>>543231829
>>543231010
>reality
kek, seethe
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:40:23 PM
No.543231237
>>543231337
>>543230932
>the desire of people to raise their voice against valve
Videogame development.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:41:59 PM
No.543231337
>>543231460
>>543231667
>>543230928
>>543231237
>vagueposting
I don't mind it, but why'd you feel the need to say you ran out of arguments?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:43:28 PM
No.543231460
>>543231667
>>543231337
Nothing you're saying is relevant to gamedev. You sound like a fruitcake.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:43:29 PM
No.543231463
>>543227724
desperation always leads to predictably subhuman behavior
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:45:56 PM
No.543231642
>>543232029
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:46:16 PM
No.543231667
>>543232029
>>543231337
I agree with
>>543231460
This discussion isn't really about game development, it's more like marketing which isn't about developing anything.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:46:18 PM
No.543231670
>>543230896
run you game in 480x320
no one will notice how shit it is. It might even look good.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:48:43 PM
No.543231829
>>543232193
>>543232765
>>543231201
You're projecting. You feel like just because you have strong feelings one way or another about a topic that everyone else must also have strong feelings. I'm simply explaining to you what the truth of reality is and how powerless any random internet poster is to make any change in it. I, myself, am well past caring either way.
I accept reality for what it is and choose to ride the currents along the path of least resistance rather than trying to fight the flow. Could it be better? Sure, but directing your efforts to yell at the river isn't going to change magically construct a dam and tame the rapids.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:49:55 PM
No.543231915
>>543217274
1: marry and impregnate
2: marry and impregnate
3: marry and impregnate
4: marry and impregnate
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:51:19 PM
No.543232029
>>543232346
>>543231642
the wittiest soiteenager
>>543231667
if you don't believe gamedev is about marketing, then why would you not want to do a better job at curation so you don't have to do any marketing?
and if nobody's going to call the other guy out for off topic then why am I not free to respond? stay mad
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:53:44 PM
No.543232193
>>543232504
>>543231829
I don't really care if you're blackpilling gamedevs against making games, but when you're doing in service of the valve oligopoly you are in effect a corporate shill, and that's where I draw the line.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:55:48 PM
No.543232346
>>543232814
>>543239721
>>543232029
>if you don't believe gamedev is about marketing
Well it's just that there's so much discussion about marketing here and barely any development of games that it feels like the thread keeps discussing theoriticals. If we never make games that we release we wouldn't really have first hand experience in marketing. But the way I see it is I don't like the centralization of games in platforms like Steam and such. I don't really understand what the opinions of /agdg/ers are on this subject.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:57:54 PM
No.543232504
>>543232814
>>543232193
>nodev draws a line in the sand
oooooo I'm so scared
kek you're such a pathetic loser lmao
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 12:59:22 PM
No.543232617
some of the models I made are too good looking, I need to enshittify them to make them consistent with the rest of the cast
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:01:06 PM
No.543232762
now the fun part, animations and look IK
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:01:11 PM
No.543232765
>>543233439
>>543231829
I don't really like this mentality you're proposing. The point of activism is to get more people to work towards a cause. If you just say "you're a random powerless person" that's true but every group starts with just one person at some point.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:01:50 PM
No.543232814
>>543232953
>>543232346
I agree that this thread should never be about marketing, which is why I consider doomposting about market trends (as opposed to posting news and novel stats) off topic. steam is garbage just for its 30% cut, sadly the average gaymer has double digit IQ and can't see how a flat rate like that on a monopolistic platform is a blatant tax on every consumer of the medium.
>>543232504
>enlightened centrist places no value in moral positions
damn you really caught me off guard there. take a look in the mirror sometime
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:02:21 PM
No.543232850
>>543233229
>>543233287
>steam has good discoverability, goy! buy the fotm slop!
Fuck you. I found this particular game not because of the Steam algorithm, but because I clicked on a random guy's page and he had reviewed this game. Fatfuck gabencunt's shitty algorithm would've never shown me this game in a million years even though it's the kind of game I like.
And it's not like this game is a gigaflop with 5 reviews, it has 1k reviews.
All Valve drones in this general should be skinned alive and boiled in steaming hot water afterwards.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:03:28 PM
No.543232929
the moment you talk about marketing and sales and bullshit you're stepping outside the amateur part of agdg and for that reason i'm out
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:03:43 PM
No.543232953
>>543251752
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:04:12 PM
No.543232986
You know, interacting with them explains a lot about why their country looks like that.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:07:39 PM
No.543233229
>>543233465
>>543233862
>>543232850
>on wishlist
>hasn't bought it yet
>Review score: 74%
>Price: $19.99
>Average playtime: 4.8h
>Average daily concurrent players: 5
Geez, I wonder why. Truly a mystery. It wouldn't pass 100 reviews if it released today.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:08:24 PM
No.543233287
>>543232850
Keep fighting the good fight. You and I are correct. These people are wrong.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:10:29 PM
No.543233432
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:10:34 PM
No.543233439
>>543233771
>>543234013
>>543232765
I don't like it either, but the cold indifference of reality does not care what any individual likes. Read the essay I linked here
>>543230739
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:10:54 PM
No.543233465
>>543233713
>>543233229
I only found it recently. I don't have a lot of cash to splurge on a impulse buy but I still like to keep track of games I wanna buy at SOME point in the future (because thankfully fatfuck gabencunt didn't fuck up the wishlist system on the user's end, AT LEAST thank god for that amirite)
Also
>Average playtime: 4.8h
>Average daily concurrent players: 5
Fuck off with this shit. It's both meaningless. Especially CCU for older and/or SP games.
Me and you both know retarded Steamies don't play the games they buy.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:14:46 PM
No.543233713
>>543234809
>>543233465
It does matter. Stardew Valley is an old single player game and has 80,914 players right now.
>Copies sold in the last 7 days: 37.8k
It sells more copies on any random non-sale week than just about any /agdg/ game on release week. Gabe will continue to show SDV to people so long as people keep buying it.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:15:20 PM
No.543233750
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:15:36 PM
No.543233771
>>543233439
>the cold indifference of reality does not care what any individual likes
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:15:58 PM
No.543233792
>>543233950
i tried claude since my gpt-5 ran out and holy shit its so bad compared to gpt-5
im guessing people saying claude is better are the ones that cant differentiate good code from bad code as long as it works
im a senior dev and having gpt-5 is like having a competent junior working for me
claude just feels like ai-slop
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:16:53 PM
No.543233862
>>543233909
>>543233229
>It wouldn't pass 100 reviews if it released today.
ouch. 2019 was only a few years ago a few years ago...
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:17:39 PM
No.543233909
>>543234276
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:18:07 PM
No.543233937
>>543234095
>It does matter. Stardew Valley
Stopped reading right there.
Kill yourself immediately PLEASE.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:18:17 PM
No.543233950
>>543233792
ive never really noticed any major difference between the different versions but i only use them for small/well-defined tasks
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:19:17 PM
No.543234013
>>543234652
>>543233439
Can you just say what you're arguing for?
>>543233937
I'll use a different game as an example the day a different old single player game shows up on this list. Success breeds jealousy.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:21:33 PM
No.543234192
>>543234095
why do people play wallpaper engine so much? it has no gameplay
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:22:23 PM
No.543234262
>>543235306
>>543235949
Am I doing it right?
I know I don't have an object availability check.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:22:36 PM
No.543234276
>>543234337
>>543234393
>>543233909
6 years ago I was still in my 30s yes. I'm guessing you were 12.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:23:21 PM
No.543234337
>>543234693
>>543234276
relax dont break another hip
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:24:19 PM
No.543234393
>>543234693
>>543234276
get your testosterone levels checked
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:27:41 PM
No.543234652
>>543234013
Gamedevs have no effective means of coordination, so we can only devolve into a race to the bottom. Coordination, such as unionization, can only form through external enforcement. You'll have to wait for a one-world-government with centralized enforcement to realize your dream of fully automated luxury gay space communism for gamedevs.
A Valve monopoly is a local minima. There are far worse local minima we could find ourselves in. Just look at the film industry eating itself alive to see how much worse things could be if little Timmy was a little more competent and consumer friendly.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:28:15 PM
No.543234693
>>543234337
>>543234393
underage confirmed. mods!
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:29:00 PM
No.543234756
>>543234953
>>543227724
Uhhhhhh COMMIE COMMIE COMMIE HOW DARE YOU SUGGEST SOMETHING TO A PRIVATE OWNER *obese retarded noises*
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:29:33 PM
No.543234809
>>543234890
>>543234998
>>543233713
>>543234095
reminder that eric schizo does this daily
this creature shits up the thread every single day with his eceleb worshipping mental illness and spams gore if you upset it
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:30:26 PM
No.543234880
>>543235014
>>543235230
>>543234095
What do you actually do in Stardew Valley? I know you can have gay sex and grow carrots but what are the challenges?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:30:33 PM
No.543234890
>>543234978
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:31:22 PM
No.543234953
>>543234756
>Uhhhhhh COMMIE COMMIE COMMIE HOW DARE YOU SUGGEST SOMETHING TO A PRIVATE OWNER *obese retarded noises*
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:31:42 PM
No.543234978
>>543234890
yup, same replies too every time
you are one sick puppy
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:31:59 PM
No.543234998
>>543234809
I find it odd how persistent this guy is. He has been going on for at least 4 years now.
Even the AI voice acting schizo has given up now.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:32:08 PM
No.543235014
>>543234880
fighting the shitty fishing minigame
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:35:16 PM
No.543235230
>>543235354
>>543234880
Number go up. Farming is basically factorio scaling. Mining is basically gambling. Lots of planning and time management. The main game-provided objectives are the community center and museum collections and leveling up relationships by talking and gifting. There are also explicit quests and plenty of RPG dialogue.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:36:07 PM
No.543235306
>>543235453
>>543235949
>>543234262
no need to add availability checks unless you intend them to be able to handle the cases where the parameters are nullable
its better if an error is thrown so it lets you know that something went wrong that it caused the parameter to be null or wrong type
regarding the implementation itself, you could make it more generic so the pools are node type based so you you get
func get_pool(type: Variant, amount: int) -> Array[Variant]
func get_free_object(type: Variant) -> Variant
func return_pool_obj(obj: Variant)
this way you dont need to reference the pool at all anywhere and you simply ask this "PoolManager" to give you objects or return them to their pool
the image is a similar function i have
im very new with godot so it dont trust my advice
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:36:40 PM
No.543235354
>>543235230
i enjoyed the gear grind in the mines, it was fun to reach lower levels, make money from selling the items i picked up, and unlocking stronger equipment
that was the only part of the game i enjoyed
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:38:08 PM
No.543235453
>>543235306
to add to this, the way you assign types to pool is by having a dictionary where the key is the type and the value is the pool
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:42:24 PM
No.543235748
>>543235614
untapped markets. make a game catering to them. blue ocean
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:43:42 PM
No.543235851
>>543154208 (OP)
yes 97% of (You)r games suck, get better
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:44:38 PM
No.543235918
Am I the only smart person around here
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:44:53 PM
No.543235936
my favorite streamer became a developer and released a game before me. wtf
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:45:06 PM
No.543235949
>>543234262
>>543235306
Juan recommends against object pooling. The gains are very minimal. In Godot, you can instantiate and free hundreds of prefabs per second.
If you're going to object pool, DO NOT call remove_child(). 90%+ of the cost of instantiating/freeing a prefab is in adding/removing it from the scene tree, and you negate any gains you might find if you're just going to do that anyways. You disable unused objects in the pool by setting visible = false and process_mode = PROCESS_MODE_DISABLED.
>>543235614
what the hell is this country
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:46:00 PM
No.543236014
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:46:10 PM
No.543236028
>>543235989
>what the hell is this country
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:47:36 PM
No.543236142
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:48:50 PM
No.543236234
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:49:23 PM
No.543236272
>>543236328
>You need to work harder and do better, you can succeed of you make your game better
Stfu crab pol faggot retard!
>The entire game is rigged against you and unless you have extreme blind luck, nepobaby insider connections, or you pay streamers to shill your game, nothing you ever do will help you succeed
>H O B B Y
You are a true friend, thank goodness you're here to help us all ward of those no-good crabs that just want to drag us down.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:49:34 PM
No.543236284
>>543235989
Canadian Separatist Republic
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:50:17 PM
No.543236328
>>543236272
>>You need to work harder and do better, you can succeed of you make your game better
>Stfu crab pol faggot retard!
>>The entire game is rigged against you and unless you have extreme blind luck, nepobaby insider connections, or you pay streamers to shill your game, nothing you ever do will help you succeed
>>H O B B Y
>You are a true friend, thank goodness you're here to help us all ward of those no-good crabs that just want to drag us down.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:51:05 PM
No.543236387
Crabler did nothing wrong
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:55:44 PM
No.543236726
Grex was right.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 1:59:38 PM
No.543236975
I wanted you guys to post your own sales by country heatmaps. I forgot none of you have shipped a single game.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:01:37 PM
No.543237094
>>543235989
Wait for an american to tell you.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:05:30 PM
No.543237378
>>543237837
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:07:23 PM
No.543237506
>>543237814
>>543237891
>This is your competition
JOBBY
O
B
B
Y
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:11:42 PM
No.543237814
>>543237962
>>543237506
how ironic that your screenshot features 2 hit indie games. You're proving the point that good games will succeed amongst a pile of shit.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:11:57 PM
No.543237837
>>543237378
did they have to use such ygly colors
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:12:10 PM
No.543237845
>sales
>no sales
Jlmg
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:12:48 PM
No.543237891
>>543237506
I looked at today's releases. they are more intimidating now. how can i compete with this?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:13:51 PM
No.543237962
>>543238071
>>543237814
That's the point dude. 90% is trash. you are competing with babby's first unity project he thought steamies will gobble up for some reason.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:15:38 PM
No.543238071
>>543238143
>>543237962
get a job schizo
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:16:47 PM
No.543238143
>>543240810
>>543238071
whatever demotivation spammer nodev
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:16:49 PM
No.543238147
>>543238634
>>543240682
Grim.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:23:14 PM
No.543238634
>>543238147
>made a whole new game while his previous is still in early access
yikes
Playing Balatro made me realize there's not a single modern /agdg/ game that comes close to being as good as it
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:29:51 PM
No.543239128
>>543239612
>>543238940
I went to an open mic last night and heard 20 odd singers, none of them were even close to Buckley... why did they bother?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:32:00 PM
No.543239304
>>543239359
>>543238940
>modern
whats the cut off?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:32:41 PM
No.543239359
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:36:00 PM
No.543239612
>>543239917
>>543239128
Did those singers have delusional expectations that they would get rich from singing?
Did they demand record labels to promote smaller obscure singers?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:37:03 PM
No.543239689
>>543240054
I'm so fucking depressed it's impossible to make any game I have an idea for.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:37:28 PM
No.543239721
>>543240524
>>543240756
>>543232346
90% of marketing is your product. NGMI kenyan helicopter flopdevs confuse "marketing" with "promotion" and think that it's something they can put off until after they build the product, and that is simply untrue. Marketing starts at conception.
There are three distinct stages that a gamedev must go through. They start as a nodev ideaguy who thinks their ideas matter. Those ideas are useless because they are not ground in the reality of the mechanism that make video games function. The second stage is when a developer thinks that ideas don't matter and only execution matters. They easily confuse quality of implementation details as something that potential customers care about.
The final stage of a game developer is when they understand that both ideas and execution matter. Ideas formed during this stage are centered around market research, identifying areas of unmet demand, scope, and feasibility as opposed to the lore and fantasy of ideas from stage one gamedevs.
While "JLMG" is a good mantra to get a developer moving on from stage one to stage two, it is not enough to produce a commercially successful game. At some point, you have to realize that your stage two game(s) are largely learner and beginner projects that are not very high in demand on the larger market. You cannot expect them to succeed simply because you're willing to put ungodly amounts of effort into them.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:39:49 PM
No.543239917
>>543239612
there was one guy that did so to make myself feel better for never having the guts to go on stage I pretend they all do and dismiss them all as delusional, very comfy
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:41:20 PM
No.543240054
>>543239689
friendships/relationships/health status?? you just have to put a tiny effort into one of those today and you'll feel like you're making progress, so you can focus on your games
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:41:39 PM
No.543240080
i am not going to make it
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:47:39 PM
No.543240516
>spent hours making models before I even made a single script
AAAAAAH I AM SO SCARED OF CODING AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:47:44 PM
No.543240524
>>543239721
To add to this, there are many stage one devs who intuitively understand that stage two game are not commercially viable. That's why they get so upset at the notion of "make Pong", because quite obviously, Pong cannot be a stage three game. They think they can come up with stage three ideas without stage two skills.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:49:34 PM
No.543240682
>>543238147
He lucked out with the first penguin game. It was a proto-friendslop
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:50:27 PM
No.543240756
>>543241449
>>543239721
>While "JLMG" is a good mantra to get a developer moving on from stage one to stage two, it is not enough to produce a commercially successful game
y'all tryna make money with your hobbies fr? doesn't that ruin the fun? do we need to split the general into hobbygamedev and jobbygamedev? no wonder half the thread is talking money
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:51:09 PM
No.543240810
>>543238143
i dont argue with you schizo, get a job
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:58:09 PM
No.543241343
>>543227218
This is actually the concord of indie games. for real.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:58:53 PM
No.543241402
>>543241580
>>543230116
Coincidentally, out of all the random games on steam I got, it was t his FOTM friendslop game from this year with 38 thousand reviews.
Are you sure there are hundreds of thousands of games on steam? I clicked the random button, which sends me to a random game, and the game was a a massively successful co-op game thats 25 fucking dollars somehow despite being a clone of a roblox game? What are the chances?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:58:54 PM
No.543241405
>>543241791
>>543244820
>Blender, animating one bone in the action editor, 3 keyframes: A B C
>Copy paste A to C
>Bone goes from A to B and stops despite the C keyframe being a copy from A
>Do right click->copy pose on bone at A and right click->paste pose on C
>Bone goes from A to C(doesn't move since it's the same pose) as if the B keyframe wasn't there
>It doesn't always happen, some keyframes can be copypasted without issue.
What the fuck is this and how do I fix it/work around it? Do I have some weird setting enabled that fucks it up?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 2:59:27 PM
No.543241449
>>543241583
>>543240756
This has been proposed many times, and I do agree with a split. It's not even about money. Game development is only really fun as a beginner and learner. You have to be delusional to think that anyone wants to seriously play and enjoy your beginner learner game. The few who managed to persist within that delusion until a release are confronted by the cold hard truth that no one wants play their game that they poured so much into. You can cope all you want about not caring about money, but when the reality that you spent thousands of hours just to get less than a hundred people to download and play even a free game for less than an hour each, it's really no surprise that they'd end up the kind of bitter flopdev to forever haunt this thread with shit about how it's not their fault and it's the algorithm and Gabe and whatnot.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:00:15 PM
No.543241517
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:00:25 PM
No.543241530
>>543241920
>>543242525
Wrote a general purpose C++ library for deserializing valve 220 .map files into usable geometry/UV coordinates. This lets engine devs use trenchbroom and other quake-style level editors without having to write their own entire toolchain/level editor
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:01:11 PM
No.543241580
>>543241402
Oops, sorry forgot the pic, I was just buying lottery tickets because I just got a really really lucky pick! This has to be in the top 0.05% of steam, and I just randomly picked it!?
It's also VR and on sale!? What ARE THE ODDS!? Unfortunately, I don't have a VR headset though, so this organic and not artificially pushed game isn't isn't for me.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:01:17 PM
No.543241583
>>543241835
>>543241449
But what if just want to out hours into my game so it's finished and I can show my friends and family and motivate me to make more in the future because I finished something major? Money can be the nice extra, not the main objective (for me)
Enough meta/money talk for me though I haven't even finished a game yet god bless
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:02:48 PM
No.543241701
>>543238940
>he thinks a highly successful game has some kind of merit
NOOOOOO! Actually the only reason it succeeded is because a single streamer Northern Lion played it and, as we know, every single game he plays becomes a global award winning megahit so basically it was nepotism and streamer shilling NOT quality. My game with 3 negative reviews is just as good as Balatro! NOOOOOO!
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:02:56 PM
No.543241712
>>543242470
nah that multiplayer shit is too complex, rubberbanding N-Sync'ing and shit
fuck that, i'll stick to singleplayer games
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:03:52 PM
No.543241791
>>543241405
if you make changes in a frame and then go to another one, it doesn't save it unless you make it into a keyframe (control + I) if I'm understanding this right
post it on the blender discord btw we're just amateurs here
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:04:21 PM
No.543241835
>>543242429
>>543241583
Like I said, you're still a beginner and learner, and that's fine. Enjoy it while it lasts. Just don't get upset and come back to shit up the thread when people you can't emotionally manipulate refuse to waste time trying your game.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:05:28 PM
No.543241920
>>543242525
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:10:33 PM
No.543242315
is there a yt channel I can listen to and learn coding while wageslaving?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:10:49 PM
No.543242336
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:11:07 PM
No.543242361
how do I fake dev? I heard some devs make a lot of patreon money and they don't produce anything but some prototypes
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:11:33 PM
No.543242407
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkXTh3r3VkU
Imagine thinking 2 years is a lot when people in here have been working on the same 2d game for 5 years+.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:11:51 PM
No.543242429
>>543242963
>>543241835
I don't think those people exist here either, we're doing the very common human thing of taking one or two people's delusion and saying everyone is like that. And does replying to them help? Or does it just add to the shitfire? Is there anything you'll say that will convince them? Anything they'll say that'll convince you? We're just repeating ourselves from thread to new thread trying to rationalise it as "educating" some rando online that for all we know is either genuinely or pretending to be retarded and/or schizophrenic
Good morning I hate 4chan see you tomorrow
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:12:15 PM
No.543242470
>>543242543
>>543255856
>>543241712
try a lag-compensating middleware.i got netfox bookmarked
I'm working on the website for my game because I liked the mass effect legendary edition launcher sans the EA app so I'm trying to make one similar for my game where it will have placeholder spots for the 2 sequels (planned) and show the lead characters staggered amongst the blue shit in the start up anim. so far I've got SSO working with keycloak between two different instances of the site, one in LA and one in NY. But there is no way to reg users yet because the OpenID plugin wants to cost subscription money to allow that so I need to make a script that scrapes keycloak for newly added users, and then calls php cli to add new users with matching email addys into the CMS instances so that I can keep using the free plugin. I WAS learning django from this free online course but I can't run it properly on my NAS because it has poor support for WSGI or whatever it is called. but it seems that flask DOES work so I've stopped learning django and started learning flask which seems to me to be like, if you've got a python script which is fully standalone and takes stdin args and prints an stdout response, and you want THAT exactly as it is, but as a web api endpoint, then flask does that, and not much more. So, its basically like a WSGI adapter of a .py in a cgi-bin more or less, I still need to learn how to do routing in it. Then when the player goes to load/save/new game, that will be shifted to be inside a profile. Then the profile will have an area to add an email addy, if given that will be sent to my flask API, which will send it to keycloak which will make a new account with a temp password and send the login details to the given email addy, then the flask will also populate a matching passwordless user in all the CMS for keycloak SSO to match against for free. Then once my game is good enough to have fans they can vote in polls using that login. its all coming together excellently in my mind.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:12:51 PM
No.543242519
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:12:55 PM
No.543242525
>>543242995
>>543241530
>>543241920
Very cool but Valve220 UV projection is just one and the other formats use a standard scale shift rotation format.
I assume you also know about this?
https://github.com/stefanha/map-files/blob/master/MAPFiles.pdf
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:13:09 PM
No.543242543
>>543242806
>>543242470
I don't even want to think about amount of work that goes into making multiplayer work. Why this shit isnt simple already is beyond me
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:15:49 PM
No.543242784
>>543243175
>>543243228
https://youtu.be/TSVHoHyErBQ
you sit here, dev, and waste your life away, while this man dances, makes is worth 200 million and does other cool stuff
whos the stupid one here?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:16:06 PM
No.543242806
>>543242909
>>543242543
what about local multiplayer? Like P1 is WASD and P2 is arrows? Or P1 is KB+M and P2 is xbox wireless controller? my friend was like dude check out noita and I looked and it and thought it looked like liero and wnated to spawn in and mess him up and shoot him into acid but couldn't without having it myself and joining online if it even has multiplayer. split screen local multiplayer like that is good for brothers still living at home and for when friends come over.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:17:17 PM
No.543242903
Steam is a meritocracy, you just need to get 800 thousand wishlists organically and hope the site doesn't happen to break during the 15 minutes they show actually people your game, which all leads to 15 sales per review so it quickly gets into the "real steam" in which they'll actually start promoting it, once you're already rich.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:17:22 PM
No.543242909
>>543242806
local multiplayer is way easier but isnt as fun/common nowadays
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:17:56 PM
No.543242963
>>543242429
We know we have plenty of flopdevs, we know that those flopdevs are still around and still posting, and we know that those flopdevs have not come out and openly recognized the fact that their game flopped because of issues with the game rather than extenuating circumstances. It's fairly easy to connect the coping posts to those flopdevs. My wall of text wasn't really addressed to them. They're addressed to up-and-coming devs as a warning of one potential fate that could be awaiting them.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:18:21 PM
No.543242995
>>543243330
>>543242525
yes - I only support valve 220 because quake/quake2 formats are retarded
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:20:14 PM
No.543243175
>>543243359
>>543242784
if everyone was a celebrity then no one would be a celebrity
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:20:51 PM
No.543243228
>>543242784
I'm glad internet killed celebs
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:21:03 PM
No.543243245
>>543243140
It isn't the algorithm, that's for sure, okay? TRUST THE ROBOT.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:22:01 PM
No.543243330
>>543242995
>yes - I only support valve 220 because quake/quake2 formats are retarded
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:22:11 PM
No.543243343
>>543243140
I assume that @de4dlov2r has more valuable followers? Followers with followers, I mean. American's followers probably don't have any followers of their own
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:22:21 PM
No.543243359
>>543243175
I'm not talking everybody I'm talking about game devs
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:23:24 PM
No.543243452
>>543230116
>http://store.steampowered.com/explore/random/
WhAt DiD iT mEaN bY tHiS? I think that steam has something to say about the state of these threads lately...
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:25:29 PM
No.543243641
>>543243140
Oh look, another schizo obsessed with Alice
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:26:26 PM
No.543243706
>>543217117
that house looks as unfinished as cris' games
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:26:30 PM
No.543243715
I want to make a simple game like pong, like tetris, like flappy bird, make at least 1 mil from that and call it a day
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:28:11 PM
No.543243846
>>543252696
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:28:58 PM
No.543243912
>>543244318
>>543208787
nortubel in 3d
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:31:31 PM
No.543244135
>>543244181
How do you stop wanting to dev?
I miss gaming.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:32:04 PM
No.543244181
>>543244135
uninstall dev software
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:32:16 PM
No.543244196
>>543244260
say I want a unit to go to another units position, but I want it to actually not go to the position, I want it to go to the position that is the two units radiuses factored into that
whats the math for that
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:32:24 PM
No.543244209
>>543244346
>>543243140
The replies cover it and he admits it himself, he just talks a lot of anti-american politics so of course his reach takes a hit. 17k likes but he didn't have the integrity/honesty to realise he's politicsposting on a fuckin gamedev account (the same will happen to boku lol)
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:33:03 PM
No.543244260
>>543244196
Oh and for the record I wasn't signed into an account so idk what this means
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:33:34 PM
No.543244306
>>543244208
you ask chatgpt
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:33:39 PM
No.543244318
>>543243912
replied to a 10 hours old pedo post to talk about the autistic flopdev you stalk award
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:33:44 PM
No.543244325
>>543244208
distance(start, end) - 2
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:34:02 PM
No.543244346
>>543244504
>>543244209
>anti-american politics
Why do rightoids keep labeling everyone who doesn't agree with them as enemy of the state?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:34:08 PM
No.543244350
>>543244208
Unironically use chatgpt for basic maths like that. I wouldn't trust the code it outputs most of the time, but it can guide you on the logic
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:36:06 PM
No.543244504
>>543244346
Brother he literally agrees with posts that use the term "anti-American" it's right there in that tweet that you can look at, I don't know politics I barely understand what your post means
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:38:14 PM
No.543244664
>>543244794
>>543244208
i have no idea what you mean but don't you mean manhattan distance
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:39:53 PM
No.543244794
>>543245092
>>543245149
>>543244664
okay im gonna try to explain it
unit 1 has a radius of 0.5, unit 2 has a radius of 0.5
unit 1 is instructed to walk to unit 2, so its walk position has to be something like 0.5 + 0.5 removed from the target position
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:40:07 PM
No.543244820
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:40:07 PM
No.543244821
be a rockstar gamedev goddamnit
be a rockstar
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:41:40 PM
No.543244951
>>543245010
i give up
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:42:32 PM
No.543245010
>>543245063
>>543244951
do you have a gf to tell her about it?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:43:11 PM
No.543245063
>>543245157
>>543245010
i have never had a gf or gone on a date or anything or kissed
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:43:35 PM
No.543245092
>>543244794
So as a code and mathlet I would have a 12 sided cylinder collision box attached to both and say to unit 1 to move towards 2 until its collision shape touches unit 2's
There's probably some mathematical equation that saves like 4 frames or 20mbs of ram idk but it would work
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:44:15 PM
No.543245149
>>543244794
target_postion = Unit2.position + Unit2.position.direction_to(Unit1.position) * (Unit1.radius + Unit2.radius)
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:44:18 PM
No.543245157
>>543245063
wow then you have way less problems on your head
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:52:37 PM
No.543245823
>>543245747
200 billion... just 200 billion and we'll have AGI please sir...
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:53:21 PM
No.543245879
>>543246461
>>543245747
meanwhile grok's latest model still cannot code on the same level as sonnet 3.7 and every llm is downgrading or implementing massive limits
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:53:38 PM
No.543245901
>>543245959
>>543245747
what does this have to do with gamedev
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:54:22 PM
No.543245959
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:55:15 PM
No.543246027
if you can't recreate success of this, then whats the point?
the game HAS TO BE simple
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:55:27 PM
No.543246040
>>543246267
is AI as of today smarter than most indians?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:55:31 PM
No.543246046
>>543246145
Why aren't /agdg/ devs as creative and original as youtube devs? Ugh.
Does anyone know if Kickstarter is still viable for small projects? I'm just gonna need 30k for 2 years of dev to finish my game but I have no idea if people still use crowdfunding. I'm thinking of project hopping with sokpop like small games otherwise.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:56:47 PM
No.543246131
>>543154567
I have several games that I want to play that simply don't exist so I currently make one of these.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:56:59 PM
No.543246145
>>543246046
>creative
>original
copies 2 games
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:57:31 PM
No.543246193
>>543247543
fear > wanting money > desperation > stress > exhaustion > laziness
chill > "i'll just survive somehow" > no stress > lots of energy > productive
do not chase money, chase the chill
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:57:51 PM
No.543246220
>>543246092
You could have looked already. Have something substantial to show. Shadow dropping is not a good idea. Post online, gather some people and momentum. People do give a surprising amount, say $50, but you'll still need 600 people to commit
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:58:13 PM
No.543246256
>>543246092
it's dead, basically pre-order platform for finished products, the discovery of new projects that need funding and all that ended in 2017 or so
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:58:20 PM
No.543246267
>>543246348
>>543245747
>>543246040
www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fw5-68Y5gY
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 3:59:26 PM
No.543246348
>>543247675
>>543253982
>>543246267
this video made more ad income than some games that took 2-3 years to make made on steam
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:00:45 PM
No.543246461
>>543245879
Currently Grok isn't that good at coding for a game, even if you give it precise instructions and a detailed structure on how the features should look like.
DeepSeek is better for example but it tends to think 2 steps ahead all the time and has a tendency to overengineer features.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:01:11 PM
No.543246483
>>543245747
Elon is thoroughly discredited as a fraud, right? Like nobody believes his fake smart guy act anymore
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:03:02 PM
No.543246636
>>543247541
>>543246092
>goyfundme
>picture of a jew
I don't think you know what goy means
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:03:29 PM
No.543246671
>>543246758
i think about money 24/7, how to stop?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:04:34 PM
No.543246758
>>543247558
>>543246671
read Schopenhauer
> In order to increase his pleasures, man has intentionally added to the number and pressure of his needs, which in their original state were not much more difficult to satisfy than those of the brute. Hence luxury in all its forms; delicate food, the use of tobacco and opium, spirituous liquors, fine clothes, and the thousand and one things that he considers necessary to his existence.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:04:39 PM
No.543246769
>>543246852
Most of the time I saw people complaining about their games not making any or enough money, the games were actual slop.
It is pretty rare to have genuinely good games flop completely and never gain popularity.
No matter how much people cope, making a good game is always the most important part and no amount of marketing and luck can really help a shit game.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:05:25 PM
No.543246824
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:05:53 PM
No.543246852
>>543246976
>>543246769
true, but if good game just sit there without marketing it will die
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:07:09 PM
No.543246947
i think 24/7, how to stop?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:07:36 PM
No.543246976
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:08:32 PM
No.543247056
er chuddy, the marketing for no man's sky is NOT why it sold so well, there's another reason probably
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:14:28 PM
No.543247528
>>543247928
>>543248098
I now understand the curse of choice paralysis and how it halts your progress. I want to make a game with a specific battle system, and I can't stop thinking about what changes I should make to that battle system. What would be more fun, what is too outdated by today's standards, what works, and what doesnβt. The thing is, I could have simply made a 1:1 copy of that battle system and be way ahead of where I am right now, but I'm still stuck on this decision and brainstorming the same fucking thing for weeks now.
I know what the solution is, I just can't bring myself to do it. Is this some advanced form of procrastinating? It is autism?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:14:35 PM
No.543247541
>>543246636
how are we not funding them?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:14:35 PM
No.543247543
>>543246193
>fear > wanting money > desperation > stress > exhaustion > laziness
>chill > "i'll just survive somehow" > no stress > lots of energy > productive
>
>do not chase money, chase the chill
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:14:45 PM
No.543247558
>>543248006
>>543246758
>It is because womenβs reasoning powers are weaker that they show more sympathy for the unfortunate than men, and consequently take a kindlier interest in them. On the other hand, women are inferior to men in matters of justice, honesty, and conscientiousness
>Because women in truth exist entirely for the propagation of the race, and their destiny ends here, they live more for the species than for the individual, and in their hearts take the affairs of the species more seriously than those of the individual
>Women are directly adapted to act as the nurses and educators of our early childhood, for the simple reason that they themselves are childish, foolish, and short-sightedβin a word, are big children all their lives
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:16:19 PM
No.543247675
>>543246348
i doubt it, ads income on youtube is dogshit even if you have a 1st world audience (doubt that video does), its all about sponsorships and merch
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:19:44 PM
No.543247928
>>543247528
>I know what the solution is, I just can't bring myself to do it. Is this some advanced form of procrastinating? It is autism?
worse, you're an average person.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:20:03 PM
No.543247959
>>543248163
>>543235989
reminder that both Alaska and California are rightful Russian land
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:20:48 PM
No.543248006
>>543247558
Was Schopenhauer at least racist?
show me a gamedev who really enjoys the process. not just pretending. not just because he has to force himself to enjoy it because he wants success.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:21:48 PM
No.543248098
>>543247528
Advanced procrastination? No just standard fare procrastination x self-doubt etc etc. But you know already the thing to do is prototype both and try them out
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:22:24 PM
No.543248157
>>543248272
>>543248475
>reminder that both Alaska and California are rightful Russian land
Sure thing, Pidor Pidorovich
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:22:27 PM
No.543248163
>>543247959
Dobroye utro tsars!
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:23:20 PM
No.543248243
>>543248052
There's no creation without some struggle, but the goal is not just to have fun at the honeymoon phase it's to see it through to the end and carry that self pride forever
A gamedev who really doesn't enjoy is someone like a AAA dev making slop wearing their golden chain (or whatever the proverbial thing is)
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:23:36 PM
No.543248272
>>543248157
he owns a home, you live in your parents basement
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:24:25 PM
No.543248352
>>543248052
I enjoy process up until I have to animate or draw something complex
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:25:52 PM
No.543248475
>>543248157
you can cope but im trvking
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:26:13 PM
No.543248498
>>543248052
Me in the klik & play and rpgmaker2000 days. not a care in the world
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:26:43 PM
No.543248540
>>543248052
I enjoy the process until I have to do a refactor of my code.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:31:59 PM
No.543248952
>>543248052
i enjoy the process of devving a game for myself, not other people
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:33:41 PM
No.543249082
How hard is it to fake job experience? I am hunting for a job but most of them requires experience.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:34:08 PM
No.543249112
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:35:25 PM
No.543249226
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:36:49 PM
No.543249358
>>543250328
No onions fan de Epstein, carnal
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:41:36 PM
No.543249854
>>543250009
agdg girlfriend status?
are we worse than the average guy?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:43:00 PM
No.543250009
>>543249854
first you beat the algorithm
then you get the money
then you get the women
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:46:18 PM
No.543250328
>>543249358
the first non pedo latinx...
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:49:01 PM
No.543250567
>>543243140
pity party humiliation ritual moment, none of those people are sticking around btw
marketing is not to pity show your shit to everyone, its getting your game to the people that would enjoy it, this is what the old slavix youtube faggot who claims to be a marketing expert doesnt get
how do you just make your game without worrying what people will think of you
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:50:48 PM
No.543250726
>>543250676
>how do you just make your game without worrying what people will think of you
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:51:18 PM
No.543250771
>>543250816
>>543250676
People think nothing of you and never will think anything of you.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:51:49 PM
No.543250816
>>543250913
>>543250771
unless my game randomly becomes a massive success
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:51:59 PM
No.543250828
>>543250657
cris, you need help.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:52:03 PM
No.543250834
>>543250657
cris FVARKING WON
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:52:48 PM
No.543250913
>>543250816
>randomly
NGMI
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:52:58 PM
No.543250926
>>543250657
>see title and think that someone actually made a video about cris
>no, it's cris being dishonest
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:57:09 PM
No.543251292
>>543251610
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:57:51 PM
No.543251351
>>543251478
>>543243140
That's easy: I don't use Twitter and I only knew his Alice games at the time of Asylum as "the creepy Alice in Wonderland game I am not allowed to play with on the family computer".
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 4:59:11 PM
No.543251478
>>543252132
>>543251351
you didnt play mcgee alice?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 5:00:46 PM
No.543251610
>>543251292
what is this?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 5:02:19 PM
No.543251752
>>543258897
>>543232953
>yidkowsky
the centrist of all centrists. his forum has the occasional good but unrefined thought on metacognition but his own blogposts and especially his fanfic are incredibly mid. he is unironically reddit incarnate, recently turned AI hysteria man.
I can see why you quoted him
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 5:03:20 PM
No.543251850
>>543252002
>>543250676
People are too busy thinking about themselves... Like you are now
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 5:03:56 PM
No.543251908
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 5:04:07 PM
No.543251926
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 5:04:53 PM
No.543252002
>>543252327
>>543251850
all it takes is one obsessive stalker with a chip on his shoulder and your life is ruined
it's better not to make a game, to not stick out of the crowd in any way
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 5:05:34 PM
No.543252063
FUUUUUUCK i NEED to kill EVERYONE posting on twitter, NOW!!!!
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 5:05:41 PM
No.543252079
>>543154680
why a muscle girl?
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 5:06:11 PM
No.543252132
>>543252414
>>543252469
>>543251478
I did when I was 20, but before then my parents made it out when I was five that it was the most terrifying game ever made. I never cared for anything Alice related until after playing Bionicle: The Legend of Mata Nui and finding that Alice was similar (just with less killer robots) so I played the forbidden Alice game after almost 20 year of living in fear.
It was just Quake but in third-person.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 5:06:51 PM
No.543252189
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 5:06:57 PM
No.543252198
How do you make your game without worrying agdg will parade it's corpse around if it flops? This is mainly aimed at multi year games
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 5:07:42 PM
No.543252254
>>543250676
Do you think of me and my game?
No one thinks of me and my game.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 5:08:19 PM
No.543252312
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 5:08:27 PM
No.543252327
>>543252002
I'll stalk him back.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 5:09:43 PM
No.543252414
>>543253169
>>543252132
This is an incredible insight into your psychology fygoon, thanks.
All of this is just you rebelling against your parents who for some strange reason, put a religion of Alice in Wonderlandism inside your autistic brain
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 5:10:18 PM
No.543252469
>>543253169
>>543252132
You are 25? No more slack, your're getting the full taut rope.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 5:13:03 PM
No.543252696
>>543243846
how insecure are you lol.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 5:18:09 PM
No.543253169
>>543252414
No, it was more like they made it out like it was a fantastical boogeyman that had to be avoided at all costs. Hell, to a five-year-old, seeing the disc was supposedly akin to staring straight into Medusa's eyes: it was a bad omen at the very least. My fondness for Alice came about because I was watching Captain Vrungel, saw her hideous visage while looking for other Russian cartoons I remembered watching and, on a whim, decided to watch her cartoons. It was funny, and I began to post with her honestly to exalt the virtues of her cartoon. When you guys rejected her by allowing Bocchi shitposts but hypocritically removing Aliceposts, I turned her into a parody of what you all do, and now you all vehemently detest the little Wonderlandian.
>>543252469
You dummy I'm 21.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 5:26:15 PM
No.543253982
>>543246348
Sell the shovels, don't be the idiot digging
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 5:46:37 PM
No.543255856
>>543242470
>But there is no way to reg users yet because the OpenID plugin wants to cost subscription money to allow that so I need to make a script that scrapes keycloak for newly added users, and then calls php cli to add new users with matching email addys into the CMS instances so that I can keep using the free plugin.
I'm more of a node.js guy but this all sounds like way more effort than just implementing OAuth2 using a free library. In node I'd use Passport.js. You add the Google strategy, add the app in GCP, and you've got Google SSO. Repeat for whatever other providers or methods you want to support like Microsoft and it's all free and far less effort than trying to cheese your way around a plugin's paywall
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 6:20:20 PM
No.543258897
>>543259336
>>543268009
>>543251752
I mean, sure, if you want to think about it that way. I haven't actually read much of his writing, as it's quite boring compared to other writers in the community. The AI hysteria is indeed quite cringe.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 6:24:38 PM
No.543259336
>>543259761
>>543258897
that's not centrist, that's horseshoe theory.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 6:29:21 PM
No.543259761
>>543259336
All I know is that I could go to rationalist meetups and safely say that women and niggers have lower average IQ and deny the holocaust without anyone freaking out on me.
Anonymous
10/19/2025, 7:48:53 PM
No.543268009
>>543258897
>pic
Based vs cringe
I'd rather be sane than a total lunatic
Besides, even if I "am" a virgin, at least I'm not a manwhore who has to pay childsupport lmao
Imagine being a cringe "chad", how lame