Thread 543203702

dood edition

>What is /crpgg/?
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>Thread Question
look at this dood >>543192865

don't care for that game

horrible low effort edition

dood confirmed as looked at

>dos2
Cursed thread.

My dolly can't have sex

Holding hands with Yrliet while stargazing and talking about deep stuff like love and destiny

>>543204157
>love and destiny
>deep stuff
love is when you want to have sex and destiny is when you are killed in a war duh

Why are gnomes like this?

One who looks to an OP 'edition' for evidence of its quality is as foolish as one who looks to a CRPG's setting in search of depth.

Both are assessing the mere binding of a book of tales.

>>543204406
The bleaching. Regill explains it at some point.
Its kind of hamfisted metaphor for mid-life crisis. Gnomes suffer it for most of their existance as a racial trait.

Paizo can't write a good setting, in a way they and Owlcat belong together.

>>543204157
she vomits when you touch her

>>543204297
Don't reply to me again

Some of you would really do well to just allow yourself to read romance novels.
Go to a used book store, no one will judge you.

>>543205242
I cannot self-insert into a novel

>>543205242
>used book
why would you want cum-soiled pages

>>543205419
>choose your own adventure romance novel
brb making a million dollars

>>543205242
I will not read femoid books about sexy rape vampires

>>543205440
Put yourself in her eldar shoes. How would you feel if a chimp at a zoo you're visiting started making inappropriate noises and gestures indicated it is interested in you?

>>543203815
>>543203508
Yeah the figuratively closeted thing is a new finding, and best represents her discovering unexpected feelings for the RT (male or female)
The generally sexless nature of lesbian relationships matches the tone with Yrliet

>>543205497
How's that gonna work?

>>543205638
indicating

>>543203702 (OP)
Ok niggers, which WOTR mythic path has the best story?

>>543203508
>Yrliet is a severely autistic femcel and closeted lesbian
She isn't literally that but she's a clear metaphor for that type of woman irl

>>543205497
Anon those already exist

come to think of it we haven't had a good lesbian romance in years

>>543205497
These existed at the point

>>543205973
At one point*

>>543205973
>>543205936
titles then

/crpgg/, is Yrliet romance a good lesbian romance?

what's your favorite combat role for your PC?

It's some sort of new schizophrenic Yrliet delusion every day with you people.

>>543206112
Take your pick

>>543205638
I would politely decline and give him a banana instead. I would not shudder and throw up. That's always been the problem with Yrliet. It's not that she's uninterested in sex, it's that the game makes of point of describing her abnormal physical revulsion at the very thought of you, and her being a racial slur machinegun in every single conversation outside of you doesn't help.

I was the one saying that her characterization as a super autistic person even within the context of being eldar makes sense and is a fun character concept, but it's next to other behaviors that make her less likeable even if you give her the benefit of the doubt. In other words, I actually like the idea of an unlikable autist who can't stop herself from calling you racial slurs and throwing up in her mouth at the thought of you, that's funny and novel for a game, but it doesn't end up with my character liking her.

I like her from a writing perspective because the concept is funny and unusual in a genre where most companions fellatio the player character, but my character doesn't like her, within-universe from their perspective. And that's even with me (and my character) being theoretically ok with an asexual or nonsexual romance. Just not with someone with her attitude about it. If she was friendly and simply asexual, I would actually love the character and her romance.

>>543206112
There's also a fucking million modern romance text games out there.

>>543206296
>I would politely decline and give him a banana instead.
I know it makes sense in context but why is this so funny I'm tired I need to go to bed

>>543206282
Do you really not see the difference between those titles and something that would attract someone looking for smooches?

>>543206282
You could give shit like this a new life (maybe) by merging it with LLMs that are trained to slightly alter the text based on user input but still staying close to a human made plot

>>543206537
I think you should get hit by a bus.

>>543206282
owlcatfags literally cannot read

Rogue trader isn't even that fun unless you are high af playing it.

vtmb2 releases in a few days and you fags are busy talking about yrliet or whatever for the 20th month in a row, fuck this gay ass general

>>543206803
Vtmb2 is ass and not a rpg

Im just saying owlcat could learn some lessons from underrail like
1.spacing and momentum should be the most impact full and important part of a turn based game
2.the amount of damage an enemy can do is more important than stat bloating their health
3.in a turn based game if you have good range and crowd control abilities but the enemies dont the fights will always be easy
4.if you dont have the resources to give your player alot of different items just add in a crafting system where you can make modified and/or better versions of the non-unique items you have
5. A majority of feats/perks should be locked behind actual skill level and/or stat requirements, making a game were you can pick almost every perk from your class without any real requirements will definitely break the game balance

>talking about something that already exists without LLMs
>hmmmmmmm AI could make this work....
I have this billion dollar idea for bringing ttrpgs to life as a video game. We'll use LLMs to simulate rolling and you'll fight using some kind of "real time with pause" system.

please owlcat do not "learn" anything from the jank mess of underfail

black geyser's expansion releases in a few days and you fags are busy talking about yrliet or whatever for the 20th month in a row, fuck this gay ass general

>>543207032
>already exists
I asked for CYOA romance titles, go ahead and provide them at your leisure

>>543207065
Underrail isnt janky at all, it doesnt have a gazillion bugs unlike owlcrap games.

>>543206146
>Needy
>Emotionally exploitative
>Sexless bedroom
>Just kind of leads nowhere after profound declarations of love
>Ultimately unsatisfying
She's the most realistic lesbian romance I've seen
On the other hand, Marazhai
>Hedonistic
>Rooted in power and violence
>Impulsive
>Destructive
is a realistic homosexual male relationship

>Metro is very danger, you no go east, is very danger

literal Underfail writing example

Anyone here played Solasta? How viable is a 2handed spellblade?

>>543207595
>How viable is a 2handed spellblade?
Very if you go elf

>>543205638
I'd just find it funny and interesting, and I'd reflect upon the similarities of our species
Like everyone's seen those videos of the ostrich doing the mating dance for his (female) keeper, it's cute
I don't see why Yrliet gets so upset. It's like she's frightened to think of herself as a mature woman, like the very idea of sex scares her.

Yrlietards are incapable of discussing anything but Yrliet and her romance. Its quite sad.

>>543207690
High or Sylvian, im gonna assume High?

Can this nignog not samefag for one thread

Eldar aren't even that advanced
Their tech is barely anywhere above Imperial tech
It's the same old lasgun, needlgun, slug thrower tech.
19th century -> 21st century is a bigger irl leap.

Pillars lore discussion used to be so much higher quality.

Isn't Lord Captain pretty high up in the Navy ranks?

>>543208579
Yeah it's the highest rank in direct command of ships, below an admiral.
Source: I just thought of it now

>>543208573
Why do you go on the internet and lie?

>>543205939
I loved Suvi Anwar. She's very cute, kind, smart, excited to be on the adventure, has some beautiful things to say about space exploration and religion, and she even has a cute voice actor. It's a very cute and positive romance with a kind and loving person. Who happens to be exclusively gay. So it was a good romance with things that make any romance good, that happens to be a lesbian only character.

Traynor was also ok, but I liked her a bit less in comparison. She felt like they were pushing her a bit by including her in various things, while Kelly had the same job and she's just sort of unceremoniously removed even if you romanced her in the second game.

People give Sara a lot of flak since she's rude and dumb and abrasive, but I actually kind of liked the character concept if you take a step back. She represented a person who is not like the rest of the party, who are cool and suave and totally cool even in the face of the fade and demons. A regular average person would actually freak out at these things, so she reminded the player that your band of coolguys who are unfazed by dragons and magic are actually the odd ones. It was a refreshing concept. Plus her "what is an elf" conversation was worthwhile I think, since lots of players fall into that habit. She's an unlikable person, but did have some narrative worth from a writing perspective. Well I say unlikable but I liked her, you know what I mean. Most people don't like her.

Lesbian romances in games is that it's by far the smallest demographic. More than half of gamers are straight men, then less than half are straight women, then third place is a small number of gay men. Then the tiniest little sliver of the pie graph is lesbian women.So if you're talking about resource allocation for development, most devvs make a few bisexual or playersexual characters and have them generally appealing to lots of people, including lesbians. Which is why there aren't very many lesbian only romances.

>>543208896
>>543205242

Yrliet is owlcat version of Sera

Which crpgs have horror sections for spooky season

Been plauing wiz6 the past 2 daysm it's definitely more playable than I thought as long as you keep detect secrets on at all times which would've eliminated some significant backtracking. First area is a pigeon cage with ugly tiles getting to the open bridge area in the mountains is pretty refreshing. Not sure why you would play this over any of the etrians or even grimoire other than that I've already played them

>>543208896
What kind of fucked up name is Suvi Anwar?

>>543209224
VTMB

Karma to spend, crew to level up, but still no money, sad times. Looking forward to talking to everyone since they always have new things going on after a mission.
The Ka Fai family is particularly interesting to me, but also looking forward to asking Izzy and Gobs about how they feel things went with the Sinking Ship and the Rat-King.
Auntie also wants me to stop by, has some information for me about Raymond I guess.
I'd love if some of these missions were a bit more profitable, but I'm just an expendable runner, just thankful I'm still alive, really.

>>543209224
It's literally just vtmb

>>543209986
You'll enjoy being showered in nuyen in Dragonfall. I kinda preferred how you had to manage your budget in HK though.

Shadowrun always frustrated me because I couldn't decide if I wanted to go tech or magic and felt that picking one basically locked me out of the other

>>543209986
Auntie pissed me off
I wanted to give her corrective spanking
I liked Ku Feng

>>543208896
You will never be a woman

>>543209986
Make sure you talk to the lady who runs the magic shop
It's helpful to talk to her after every mission.

>>543208896
You are particularly obsessed with any female character that looks like the ugly ones you make in games (white with short chin-length hair). Suvi, Lana, I assume Leliana, Argenta and every SoB. I thought only gay men dated clones of themselves but I am learning something new about men with AGP.

>>543210681
Decker + Mage is okay, and with the bonus essence from body in HK you can take a few implants on a magic character.
Totems and summoning are also always fine with low essence.

>>543210702
I encouraged the Vampire Queen, I'm looking forward to her showing up sometime in the future, she was pretty cool even though she tried to kill me.

>>543210542
Looking forward to it but yeah, I also like having to budget. Makes it feel really good when you decide to really invest in something after not being able to.

Sad I can't make this check, Ambrose is one of my favorites, very cool dude. That's life though.

Ku Feng would be a better gf than Y*****t

>>543210816
I always do, past few times we've run out of things to say, but I check anyhow. As shaman I'm headed there whenever I have money anyhow.
She's neat though and I think she'll have more to say with Kowloon Walled City and her mother's work, so I'll keep checking in.

>>543211317
So would your mother

>Many people assume trolls are of low intelligence, but there is no proof of this
I can see it right there
Max Intelligence 6

>>543211317
>Y*****t
Monkey can't count letters

>>543211618
I should play this

>>543211715
Y*rliet
It fits

>>543212108
>monkey doesn't understand censorship
Y*liet

>>543211201
Good stuff, option pulled from me reading the Shadowlands BBS random forum shit. I assume. I would be really interested to know if this didn't show up if the player hadn't read through it.
The lazy approach would give all players no matter what the option to call this out, and hand-wave it, but I don't get that impression from these devs. Pretty impressed in general about this kind of thing from this game.

Does anyone recommend Shadowrun Dragonfall for someone who loved RT?

>>543212332
I can recommend Honk-Honk instead

>>543212332
If you like reading, yes.

>>543212332
It's a very good game. It's older and shorter, and less flashy, but it has soul

Im pretty much a elf decker irl.

Yep, we're in Berlin alright

I hope she's romanceable

>>543212597
Only romance option in all the SR games btw

A milk run huh? This should be quick and easy then

>>543212408
What makes HK better?

>>543212448
Is it more reading than RT? I actually didn't mind the amount of reading in RT. I did, however, mind the amount of reading in WOTR.

>>543212791
In my experience there's no such thing as a milk run.

>vaguely attractive female portrait
Is that really all it takes?

>>543212854
Very much less reading than RT
No voice acting, but it's just more concise

>>543212854
Honk-Honk is more atmospheric, the story is better in my opinion.
>however, mind the amount of reading in WOTR.
Then start with Returns or Dragonfall. Honk-Honk has a shit tonne of text

>>543212854
The game generally rewards you for trying to get through as much of a mission as possible with just dialogue.

I decided to play a rigger.
Glory has a dumptruck ass.

Shadowrun Returns is more like a tech demo
Dragonfall or Honk Konk are the real games

>>543212957
Yeah haven't you seen anons gooning over Argenta or Amiri

Holy fucking shit
It's a dinosaur

>>543213295
As far as HK goes, I would almost even suggest that it's best going in thinking of it as a novel with CRPG elements. Not that that's a bad thing, but to set player expectations.

I actually read this and you know what? It's hot fucking garbage and they only get worse

I dislike how recruiting Wenduag requires you to pretty much be a retard, even for an evil character. Especially stupid is how Wenduag is the "I can fix her" character, but she shows virtually no redeemable or likable traits up front and requires too much moral flexibility and low INT/WIS to get to redemption. She's a better character than Lann too, but the recruitment is a stickler. I think RT did it way better, where everyone was at least low-key evil due to the setting. Even BG, with it's "evil" party members (really, many of them were just ruthless/selfish), was preferable to Pathfinder's evil companions.

>>543214031
What a load of dogshit
Is that one of the backer NPCs?

>>543214081
I think one route is to just not take her or mongrels seriously. This is your first exposure to them after all. For a certain personality, she could just be a curiosity that the main character doesn't feel strongly about: "heh, sure, come along little puppy dog, we'll make something of you yet" where you think of them both as sub-human.
But yes, I think playing her hand immediately was a bad call, it does make it pretty hard to choose her over Lann for most reasonable characters.

>>543214170
Yeah and I'm pretty sure that's the best one which is why they put it first

we SR general now

>>543214031
Everyone told you not to read the backer npcs

>>543214081
She really would have benefitted from a “keep your friends close and your enemies closer” kind of deal.

Duncan/HK made me wish more crpgs gave your PC a bit more of a concrete backstory and connection to the world. Not a premade character, but something at least DAO level.

>Have so much iron oxide making iron plates that my coal shut off because I stopped using iron at all
Py has some weird problems that normally never show up

If you guys want an irl Y********t gf, you should go to the second hand bookshop.
That's where the mildly autistic closeted lesbians hang out.

>>543216286
Fucking wrong general so much for playing both crpgs and egg

>>543215770
You should play Planescape Torment.

>>543205856
Dunno about best but angel and demon have the most content.
Also you can always change late game mythics.

Yikes

There has to be a safer way of using a computer than connecting your brain directly to it

>>543218305
Thats normalfag shit. if your a shadowruner, jack in!

Hehehehehe, jack in.

>>543218305
If you can think of one I'd like to hear it

>>543218216
>(Biotech: 3) Your vitals are... No... No no no no...

>>543218725
Lmao really, I was wondering if I should reroll and try to save her

>>543218305
Newer shadowrun has wireless

40k fans think they are humans AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

40k lore is fine

40gay AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

Spuds

who else is high af right now?

Lann is clearly a fake goodguy upon first impression. Wendu is a crazy bitch but at least you can tell she is authentic.
You have to worry about Lann being a bitch about what you choose to do whereas Wendu will let you be a non-npc and make decisions that benefit you.
You guys play games as cartoon characters who are either heckin good or bad. If you played as a nuanced person making realistic decisions you wouldn’t obsess over alignments and you’d actually see some of the characters (albeit shallow) personalities.

Uh
I'm guessing this is one of those unkillable minibosses I've been hearing about

>>543219942
Just go for it dude

>>543220070
Yeah doing it now, he seems fine

DF protagonist has it rough
>get talked into moving across the world by your old partner after your life back home goes to shit
>she dies fucking instantly to a rookie error
>leaves you in charge of managing her commune
>somehow manage to get revenge defeat a dragon and get things up and running again
>the flux state collapses

>>543220960
The DF gang is actually a polycule

This is too concise
I'm having owlcat withdrawal symptoms

>>543221160
The DF gang are so incompatible it'd be a stretch to even call them friends

>>543203964
Dos2 had the best dolly smooching tho. Voiced even

nooooo if u like concise text it means ur fucking illiterate!!!!!!!!

>>543205638
I would find it funny and laugh about it with my fellow humans. I would certainly not tell anyone about how disgusting it was imagining a chimp fucking me while trying to hide a wet spot on my pants

Which studio is the Lebron James (greatest of all time) of crpgs?

>>543212332
Hong Kong is better

>>543212754
Shadowrun doesn't have romances

>>543211016
He's just a freak, respectable AGP schizos hate him and his ugly bobcut narcissists too

>>543221280
This is a stupid comparison. Clipped dialogue and slang is a staple of the genre.

>>543220960
The existance of flux state was what instantly gave the setting away as pure fantasy

>>543222520
wait until you see the western hemisphere

If Cybernetics were less expensive id become a shadowrunner irl

>>543221280
Here you go. Should keep owlshart withdrawals at bay for awhile

>>543220960
what's df?

>>543223136
Nvm it's dragonfall.
Always ask stupid questions and realize it just after I asked.

>>543221849
Yeah her behavior is odd. The whole "no skin contact ever" is not part of any canon for eldar, they made it up just for the character.
Combined with this scene, where she is "discomfited by her own keen interest" about entering your soul makes it clear that she is a metaphor for a closeted person, who recoils from feelings that she doesn't understand but can't stop having.
She might not literally be a closeted lesbian in-universe, but she is definitely a metaphor for a real-world person who is questioning their own sexuality.
That's right up the alley of the danger-haired tumblrinas who write for owlcat.

>>543222640
Aww yeah that's the stuff
Thanks doc

>>543222520
An anarchist revolution collapsing and struggling to even keep infrastructure running and then getting crushed by the corporations they inevitably let in isn't exactly unrealistic

>>543223291
>That's right up the alley of the danger-haired tumblrinas who write for owlcat.
Doubt a whale would ever right a story where a lesbian stays in the closet and is still disgusted by a mere thought of slamming clams

>>543223598
You're missing the point. The climax where she holds your hand in her dream was meant to represent the start of an irl closeted lesbian accepting herself and coming out of the closet. They were using hand-holding as a metaphor, sex was never on the table because it wasn't part of the metaphor.

>>543223503
It went on for too long. It would be more realistic if the setting had 18-19th century technology, not future tech. And even then the Paris Commune lasted for how long, 1 month?

Nice Flux State, hippies

>Yrilet is asexual
No she's just not sexally attracted to you. I don't know why you losers come up with cope for her romance. Either accept it as it is or go for someone else.

Just got to chapter 7 in BG1, and I'm thinking my party is a bit underleveled.
the party is Mage MC lv 6, Imoen lv 7, Minsc lv 5, Dynaheir lv 6, Yeslick lv 5/5, Ajantis lv 5.

I got Minsc and Dynaheir later than I should have simply because I didn't get them when I first got to Nashkel.
There's some areas I haven't explored in the southern and eastern half of the map. Should I go do those for the experience, or is it just not worth it numerically.

Maybe regrettably, I've started to get into the roleplaying as a chaotic good hero, so I'm refusing senseless thievery and violence quests when I come across them. Hopefully that hasn't made me miss out on too much experience.

Also, what healing spells are the best for each level? Heal Minor Wounds just isn't doing much any more, and I've only got one guy who can use it, and he's in a dual class set up.

Jae not being a male only romance is wierd.

>>543223598
Well anyway the no-contact rule isn't part of any lore, that's an Yrliet only thing

>>543223840
That's what true freedom looks and smells like, chud

GW approves owlcats scripts. Eldar dislike touching humans? CANON! whatever the fuck they do with the tyrant star? CANON!

>>543223916
But why did they choose to write her that way. She's not a real person, she was made that way for a reason. What is the meaning of it.

>>543223840
You look like Leon S. Kennedy

>>543223958
Yeah I mean you're not wrong. Her whole "my prince, my shereen" is clearly meant for a man.

>>543224230
The meaning is some retard had a brilliant (in his mind) idea of writing a character that is averse to touch, then got 2 more retards and each wrote their own part, mashed them together and that's how we got yrliet. There is no meaning, just lots of hubris and incompetence

>>543223741
Don't forget this is all happening while governments everywhere are still struggling to adjust to the awakening and there's global rioting because of globalization. By the time DF starts a bunch of corporations have already moved in to take advantage and prop things up.

>>543223958
They needed to fill a dei quota. Be happy that straight only romances even exist in the game

>>543224230
It doesn't mean anything. Sometimes things happen for no reason.
Why is the sky blue? No reason.
Why do birds sing? No reason

>>543224227
Stop fucking talking about 40k lore. You don’t know what you’re talking about. Retard schizo.

>>543224383
>globalization
goblinization I mean

>>543224515
If a single eldar character can't touch a human without having a meltdown, that implies that all eldar are that way and always have been, until there is evidence to the contrary
Occam's Razor

>>543224646
It’s isn’t canon. Not all 40k media is canon you fucking idiot. Stop posting about 40k schizo. You’re fucking annoying. It has been days.

>>543224230
>Sheer incompetence and inability to write.
>Owlcat writers did it to spite heterosexual men on purpose.
>GW want no inter-species shit.
The reason doesn't matter at the end of the day, the character is shit.

Would you make a deal with a dragon, shadowrun general?

>>543225263
Is it romanceable?

Dragonfall is coming back to me now. I think overall I did prefer the plot in Hong Kong, it was more personal and human (you and your step-brother have to find your adoptive dad)

>>543225387
You can try

This guy's face is pissing me off.

>>543185757
It gets even worse. They end up summoning a craftworld even if you let them live which starts an extended war with the Koronus expanse. I think Yrilet might be able to convince them not to go to war but you have to be sending her down a specific route otherwise her ancestors tell her to fuck off. The ending slides also make zero sense because of this as well.

>>543228165
Well I'm glad they're dead then. I put up with enough of Yrliet's bullshit but this was the final straw. Shame about the clown cursing me but whatever, fuck him too then.

>>543228165
I'm sure there's a way to avoid this because I don't remember ever seeing it, the big war just don't happen

>>543225976
I knew he was one of those types

>>543228259
The craftworld get summoned even if they are dead. Its a lose-lose situation. Nocturne views you as a means to an end, you aren't really friends but more allies of convenience. He wants to save the survivors and views you as the tool to do so. He would happily kill a bunch of inferior "monkeigh" if it fits his end goal. Marazhai sums it up well if you pay attention, eldar will use you but will never see you as an equal.
>>543228335
Perhaps the ending slides are bugged but its happened on multiple runs. The run where I shot Yrilet obviously ended up wiht an invasion. The one where I she became a Corsair also ended up in an invasion because her ritual failed and to top it all off she had the audacity to say "You'll probably be dead by the time the craftworld arrives so its fine."

>>543228715
>"You'll probably be dead by the time the craftworld arrives so its fine."
I think that only happens if you're not in a romance
If you are, and you interrupt the ritual when she calls for help, her spirit stone cracks, and the whole thing end up differently
I seem to remember the eldar getting grossed out when they realize Yrliet is kinda dating you, and awkwardly leaving, and the whole "kill the mon'keigh" plan just kinda dies.

>>543228715
I don't need him to "see me as an equal" but if he's supposed to be smart he should have seen this coming. Did he really expect the rogue trader to just let them walk? Fucking retard, get clowned on.

>>543228868
>>543228715
Yeah there we go
That's what I always get. She convinces them not to attack. It always happens after you go into her inner world to save her

>>543229182
>...so in summary that's why you shouldn't attack the mon-keigh
>Hmm ok young outcast, we accept. We won't attack.
>Great! Elantach will be so proud of me
>A friend of yours? Which craftworld is he from?
>Uhhh......
And that's what precipitates the whole "cracked soulstone" fiasco

>>543228868
>have to be stuck with Yrilet as your romance if you want to avoid a war
Bravo Owlcat, just when I thought she couldn't get any more annoying. I have never romanced her which is probably why I end fighting against a craftworld.
>>543228935
He doesn't assume shit, he let's you know there can either be peace or you can kill them and says as much when he runs away. He was banking on you thinking that the drukhari threat is more important than some exhausted eldar that just want to leave. There are a fuck tonne of checks you can miss on Quetza which reveal Calligos is falling to chaos and that the xenos hunt is a thinly veiled excuse to satiate his bloodlust. The gayest thing is that you cannot redeem/expose Calligos unless you let the eldar live which means you get a khorne invasion and a craftworld invasion in the ending slides.

>>543230136
>if you don't cuck out to the xenos who slaughtered innocents you get 2 invasions in the ending slides
I guess it's humiliation ritual posting time. I hate slavs so much it's unreal.

This shit is pathological at this point. Same time every day.

>>543230136
>I have never romanced her which is probably why I end fighting against a craftworld.
Yeah that's the reason. I always romance her (I always romance all the girls except Cassia sometimes) so I've never had the war with eldar ending. The whole encounter plays out differently, greatly reduced cucking.
Here's part of the scene in her inner world

>>543230136
>I have never romanced her which is probably why I end fighting against a craftworld.
Well you said you wanted reactivity

>>543223929
Still trying to find the answer.
What levels should my party be before going back to the city in Chapter 7 of Baldur's Gate?

I've got three lvl 5s, two lvl 6s, and one lvl 7.

I tried going back to some places I missed in the southern sword coast, and I'm just getting xp in the range of a couple hundred. Split between the whole party, it's not a lot.

Maybe I could just waltz right on in and give it a whirl, but I want to be a bit more prepared before I slam my head against that brick wall.
Plus, there are still some areas I haven't explored yet.

Anyway, Is there a quick way to grind up some XP? I certainly got a lot of it repeatedly trying to rest without being interrupted by spiders or ghouls in the crypts under Candlekeep. (That's a very annoying mechanic by the way. I'm low on resources and need to reset. Let's just fight a dozen more enemies instead.)

I definitely prefer Shadowrun: Hong Kong Honk over Dragonfall. The DF characters are all a bit 2-kool-4-skool and they are beginning to wear on me. I liked all the Hong Kong characters, it felt more relaxed. The motivating was personal and better paced, whereas in DF I have to track down the killers of someone I have no real reason to care about.

>>543230136
>have to be stuck with Yrilet as your romance if you want to avoid a war
You gotta do what you gotta do, Lord Captain. The protectorate depends on you. Abelard will take care of impregnating any ladies whom you are unable to attend to personally on account of your obligations to your xeno lady friend.

It's bad if Yrliet stops her people from attacking you and it's bad if she doesn't. It's bad if Yrliet. Yrliet.

I was led to believe that there was no payoff to selecting Yrliet as my special lady, only negatives
Now you're telling me I can avoid a massive war this way?
This is all just a humiliation ritual, I see it now, and you're all in on it.
Even the Shadowrun posters

>>543230293
It feels even worse when its your first run and you don't even know any of this shit could happen because you didn't bend over backwards for xenos who treat you like shit. The ending slides are really hit or miss.
>>543231006
>always romance all the girls
Whore. I've tried romancing Yrilet but going iconoclast makes me want to blow my head off and I cannot justify a dogmatic RT going for a filthy xeno.
>>543231212
The monkey's paw curls once again.
>>543231587
I'd happily blow myself up along with the enemy craftworld if that was an option, I can appreciate a tragic ending but simping for Yrilet is where I draw the line. Thinking about it, its oddly like a political marriage, stuck in a relationship with zero physical intimacy to save your people from getting invaded.

>>543231236
>Anyway, Is there a quick way to grind up some XP
North of the Friendly Arm inn there's a cave with ankhegs
You can grind XP there pretty easily
https://www.gamebanshee.com/baldursgate/walkthroughbgee/ankhegnest.php
There are also basilisks at this location, they have a lot of xp
https://www.gamebanshee.com/baldursgate/walkthrough/ar3500.php

>>543232294
>its oddly like a political marriage, stuck in a relationship with zero physical intimacy to save your people from getting invaded.
Yep and if you try to have a sneaky gf on the side, the ancestors will sense your philandering and send a craftworld to bomb the shit out of you.
Heavy is the head that wears the crown

>>543232079
>>543231803
Stfu retards. Stop trolling.

Why do owlcat fans need to talk about cucking every day? Is it a 40k fan thing? Was the 40k hater right all along?

>>543233051
It's more of a slav thing (see Anna Karenina etc). Other 40k fiction has normal healthy relationships.

>>543232936
Please post about literally anything else. I'm begging you.

reminder that the "humiliation ritual" guy didn't even know you put the $ before the number

So triggered he got made fun of for spending 80$ on an alpha key he’s still seething about it days later
Typical 40cuck insecurity

"80$" sounds like a fortune where you live, Ivan
maybe the real "humiliation ritual" is your surroundings lol

I wonder if this Dragonfall game has a dragon somewhere

>Seethes about slavs while paying them 80$ for their cuck erotica
>Y-you’re just poor!
>im b-better than slavs!!
Yeah im thinking ur mindbroken

>>543232634
aw sweet. I forgot that guy sold Mirrored Eyes Potions.
Time for a training montage.

the same guy has been replying to the same troll every night for weeks

>>543234729
What if they're the same guy

Anyone here play any crpgs lately or ever?

>>543234980
I'm playing Dragonfall, it's relaxing after the words words words of other games

>>543234847
I would imagine the guy screaming about slavs while defending owlcat games is one of a kind

I haven’t even started a RT replay yet and I’m already sick of the game from all the schizo spam here.

I haven't played RT yet I know all about it

>>543235675
why would you even want to replay it.

Frogvs if you are ITT are you gonna consoom the new WH3 DLC when it drops?

>>543236034
It may shock you but I enjoy playing cool roleplaying games.

>>543236062
Those are shopped in Masque and Ulfric, also this is masque in game

Maybe the real humiliation ritual was the anons we posted with

>>543236062
inshallah volound (pbuh) will destroy the CA devils

owlcat…..owlcuck……40k…….40gay…..

>>543236332
>I enjoy playing cool roleplaying games.
cool, so why you plan replay RT shit then

>>543236062
Yes, I have no connection with whatever eceleb drama has been going on

>>543237859
SLAV ALERT ESL ALERT

>>543237867
Frog if that's you have you by any chance played Might and Magic X Legacy?

>>543237859
At least call it rogue shitter or something dude

>>543238286
Pun doesn't work in Russian

I wish we got a noble companion. I could really use all the support buffs that archetype gets.

>Yrliet's VA is a singer
>No Yrliet singing sequence
Why, Owlkek?

>>543241063
They even have Yrliet sing for you when you're taking a bath
Could easily have voiced that
Just lazy/cheap owlcat as usual

The base price for DH is decent, 40$ for that type of game is not much and you get Beta access. But for the Alpha you need to pay double and get just some cosmetics and a ingame mention. Pretty weak for the price gap desu. If they included Season 1 of DLC with it, it would be fair imo.
>inb4 muh poorfag why can't you afford
I can, just talking about bang for buck.

>>543241063
Is she even a good one?
>>543241660
I always wondered how VAs felt being forced to voice act romances or sing. It always seemed really awkward that someone is sitting in some booth saying this shit.

>>543243415
They're used to it. They prefer romance or emotional dialogue over reading out loredumps. Much more interesting

Holy shit why is Octavia such an insatiable whore

I wanna smooch her.

>>543243415
She's alright
She plays Emma in Clair Obscur who sounds exactly like Yrliet
https://youtube.com/watch?v=w836YmPY9ng
But mainly she plays hyperactive characters with an American accent eg Ena in Ena: Dream BBQ, a schizo arthouse game, and some sort of killbot in Murder Drones, a reddit-tier show

>>543242821
Considering we are testing the game for them, Alpha access should be baseline. Since it is in their interest to get as many players hunting bugs and reporting them.
The higher priced editions are fine remaining as is since that is more of a "support the devs" thing. But it is in Owlcat's interest to have as many people as possible early in the Alpha reporting bugs and giving balance feedback.

>nooooo 80$ is ok
>y-youre just a slav!!!!!!!
>40k isn’t gay s-stooooop
>i love my gay little figures leave me alone ivar

>>543244185
STFU STOP TROLLING

>>543237976
>not slav
>playing owlkeks games
my condolences

>>543245763
Ivar be quiet

>>543245958
try harder

First it was a guy spamming everyone I don't like is Indian, now it's slav, who will be the next ethnicity boogeyman?

Fuck off slavs. Fucking insecure Underrail fans. You guys need to fuck off.

>>543246401
the eternal anglo

What is an underrated or unknown CRPG you would recommend to everyone? Any acompanying mods that make the experience better btw?

40k cucks btfo
80$ and tip for gay little alpha please

>>543246831
Jagged Alliance 3, I'm sure there's mods but unmodded is fine

>>543205242
I used to read some, years ago. Its memed on now in literature circles but even 30 years ago romance fiction was full of monster porn, hardcore bdsm fantasies and non-consent fantasies, all by and for women.

>>543247315
You would know, faggot

>need to random encounters in the north narlmarches
>it's been 5 days of going back and forth between three nodes and nothing

great quest design

>>543248249
I don't remember that quest. Are you looking for the slavers?

>>543248249
The slav couldn’t write a coherent sentence….
>>543248431
You can’t help a slav. Don’t even try.

>>543248431
I need the special encounter for Honor and Duty and the quest looking for the lizardfolk poachers.

>>543212754
Fucking love Glory. Her theme song is the best track in the game too

>>543228447
I like Dietrich, he's a rather simple character but that's not always a bad thing

1.5 when

>>543246401
Whatever you are

>>543222286
NTA are there mods that add them?

>>543223929
>Also, what healing spells are the best for each level? Heal Minor Wounds just isn't doing much any more
Life would be a lot easier if you had a cleric. Check the circus if you haven't already, there's a great one there though she might be a bit lower level by now.
You absolutely shouldn't be bothering with Heal Minor Wounds at those levels. A cleric will have different healing spells at almost every different spell level. You can get away with using healing potions but the cost can add up over time. In the late game this shouldn't matter much.

>I've started to get into the roleplaying as a chaotic good hero, so I'm refusing senseless thievery and violence quests when I come across them
This is a good way to play. It's a game meant for RPing over using metaknowledge and munchkin optimization and stuff, there's very little need for that kind of thing.

I would say that if you skip Durlag's Tower you're missing one fo the best dungeon crawls in CRPGs, but iirc you decided to play the original game, and it's a Tales of the Sword Coast thing.

is it that easy?

>>543252953
It's easy if you have Larian money.
For indies, no. There is a huge amount of competition at your level and capability, and I'm sure some solid games get completely overlooked. At that level, making a good game is necessary but not sufficient.

>>543253235
I'd argue that is it still right, it's just that the chance a first game provides enough opportunity to make a second is very low for indies. The finances just aren't favorable, and you'd likely have to sustain years or decades of loss before turning a profit, which most people can't afford.

>>543252953
people buy things that good
wow
insightful
truly a modern genius in the carpig gamespace

>>543252953
Reality is better marketing sells more than better games he never made a good game in his life

>>543253235
>It's easy if you have Larian money.
And how did they get that money? Were they born with it

>>543253617
I guess that's fair, but it's a bit like saying you have to start with some success already.
Getting that first thing out and recognized is a massive undertaking, and as an unknown you basically live or die on reviews and streamers deciding to play your game, and that's still not a guarantee of anything, plus the next will have to do the same or better.
Once you have momentum things get easier, but you still have to make a good game (look at failguard).

>>543252953
Larian does make good games overall, but in my honest opinion the writing kills them for me. Too much marvel-esque humor and a lot of the characters feel like special OP ideas that don't fit into the low lvl story (especially in bg3) also the pacing. Does anyone else feel the same?

>>543254269
They make mediocre games that look good

>>543253991
/crpgg/ gave their hard earned money to larian and are still tsundere about it

>>543253991
I'm honestly not sure how they kept plugging away for so long with mediocre titles, but DOS2 seems to have been their big breakthrough, yes.
It's still not a guarantee. There could be another reality where some other RPG completely overshadowed DOS2 and they never got the BG3 deal, and they're still just steadily plugging away at ignorable titles like the Spiderweb guy.

>>543254479
no shade meant on the Spiderweb guy, I think he's carved himself a fine little career and I admire him, he has some really interesting things to say about gamedev in interviews.

>>543254269
I agree. BG3 besides the writing is well executed. It's problem with design is that it used 5E. But they implemented it well. I actually like the gameplay loop better than prebuffing in Owlcat games or old Infinity engine titles. Encounter design is solid too. It does lack challenge, but there are mods that buff enemies.

played the demo for this,
what do we think of it?

Applause, please.

The party, plus a tagalong, has been assembled. I do wish they'd implemented a formation option though. Did they for BG3?

>>543253991
They did this weird trick where they built up their studio's value for over 20 years. They then sought out private investors and crowdfunding.

>>543255901
nope

crpgg doesn’t have enough schizos

>>543255901
Fuck off

larian made solid titles for decades
obshitian made dogshit for decades and burnt bridges. whined the publishers were holding them back. scammed on kickstarter and released shitty bg knock offs. josh is back to his old tricks about the 'money' instead of publishers this time

that's why there was a BG3 and no POE3

>>543205856
Demon

Obsidian is a meme company that doesnt care about their own IP, look how the massacred outer World's "remake" with shitty light, weird filters and useless new animations
FO:NV is, unironically, the worst thing that could have happened to Obsidian because it gave the market the illusion that they could be something different.
It's been 10 years since, and they haven't been able to replicate the success that other companies have.

It's time to let it go.

What's better difficulty design:
>Increase number of enemies/add new types of enemies with difficulty increase
or
>Don't add any new entities to encounters just modify existing enemies by increasing their stats or giving them new abilities
or
>Increase/Decrease the damage the player does and takes, but keep enemies unmodified (like Oblivion)

>>543252953
The first good game he made was dos1 so it took him 15 years to figure it out apparently.

>>543258959
divine divinity & dragon commander weren't that bad

add bonus abilities so video gay losers suck you off - even though you could just add these abilities to the base game at lower damage

zoomer: the first good game was when i was 14, no good games existed before that

>>543258893
new abilities to enemies, it feels like the next phase

I recall hearing some rumours ages ago that Dark Heresy would have an AdMech companion. Any updates on that?

>>543259717
we only got some leak pics

>>543259717
They talked about a crazy romance with it but we know nothing about the admech

Do you think Owlcat might backport new archetypes and mechanics from Dark Heresy into RT? They played with the idea with doing it with WOTR into Kangmaker but the publisher locked that game down.

>>543259879
The Omnissiah does not approve of this pict
>>543259895
I see. I do hope we end up getting an AdMech companion again, I do love those cogs

Can't wait for AdMech companion to show me their Cyber-Mantle

dont care about your owlslop
dont care about your aislop

fuck off losers go talk about your romance updates on reddit

>/crpgg/ hates slavs
>/crpgg/ hates indians
>/crpgg/ hates black women
how do we fix this

>>543221280
Conciseness is considered bad in the Russian writing scene.

>>543258893
Those are all poor but the second's the best, closely followed by the first. The third is terrible.
The real answer is that difficulty should only change the enemies' AI. Low difficulty they should just spam moves at the first target, with no real thought (like Pokemon AI, just randomly pick one basically). Medium difficulty they should use their abilities intelligently, but individually and one turn at a time. So they'll center their fireball to hit the maximum amount of enemies possible instead of just chucking it at the closest target. High difficulty they should chain abilities and combo with themselves and teammates, thinking multiple turns in advance. So they should do things like send you flying into the air for a turn because next turn their buddy's create pit spell will be up and he can make a pit underneath you, thus increasing your fall damage and ensuring you get stuck in the pit.

>>543260204
Same. They know Pasqal was a favorite, I have faith in them

>>543251554
These games are too short for heavy modding. It'd be nice if there were mods in general but I'd sooner see a toolset for making custom missions than modding tools, the way those games are set up.

>>543205856
demon and demon -> legend are the probably the best for me
>becoming like the enemy to defeat them
>do you hold on to your humanity or go full fuck it mode
>demon/angel have the most content

>>543214081
my character trait is that I will give infinite chances at redemption and only the game arbitrarily restricting me at some random "betrayal" moment I won't do it anymore. so recruiting her fits.

Owlcat usually makes an even amount of male and female companions and always had at least 10 in every game on launch and their classes cover most roles.
So for Dark Heresy we have 6 companions revealed so far
Ogryn - male (looks mele focused from videos, possibly versitale/hybrid with range build - either new class or soldier/warrior)
Eldar corsair psyker - male (caster, but also had swords in gameplay so caster/melee - Owlcat hinted psyker might be becoming an archetype instead of origin so psyker, if not maybe bladedancer/warrior/operative)
Human psyker from gamescom - male (unknown probably pure caster/ranged focus psyker, if not operative)
Catachan guardman - male (ranged focus with some melee power - soldier)
Medicae - female (ranged support medicae is a new class)
Kroot tracker - female (ranged sniper most likely operative/soldier or new class)

We know there is an Admech companion, not yet revealed.
So looking at sex distribution we have 4 males and 2 females. With 4 companions left to be revealed that means we will get 3 women and 1 man.
Seems like we don't have an officer type character from current lineup nor dedicated melee besides maybe Ogryn if Corsair isn't a hybrid.

What do you predict that they might add realistically?

>inb4 SoB portrait
She seems like an NPC, as NPCs all have their portraits waist-up while companion and player portraits are all full body in every Owlcat game
>inb4 night lord
I think that might be an Uralon style secret endgame companion, unless they do a Marazhai

>>543254269
>special OP ideas that don't fit into the low lvl story
I don't even know what that means because level 12 is not "low" in D&D and if you meant that everyone is super special at level 1 it's because that allows you more freedom to write characters who are not inexperienced level 1-3s you meet after defeating bandits or goblins

what's the best role you've ever played

>>543261938
The human psyker from gamescom might have been the PC unless I'm being retarded again, but I'll just trust I'm retarded and consider him an unannounced companion

As for what they might realistically add, I'd reckon that one of the 3 women will probably be melee focused and/or comparable to the Ogryn, since RT had at least two companions for each base class. They might also be inclined to made the AdMech companion a woman to make it different from Pasqal, which probably would also mean that it would use a different class. The last male and female companions might also be officer type characters to reach that "at least two of each class" goal they seemed to have for RT's companions

>>543263087
>The human psyker from gamescom might have been the PC unless I'm being retarded again
Oh no the PC was the other male portrait - pic rel. We see him in earlier gameplay being controlled by devs

CRPGs where the villain is in the right and the party is wrong?

>>543263087
>>543263264
See both of their portraits on the upper turn track. The psyker is a different person present on screen at the same time with the previous PC.

>>543263264
>>543263539
I see, pretty strange that Owlcat hasn't mentioned him yet then

>>543263702
They didn't comment much on the gameplay from Gamescom at all. It was only in german.

>>543260662
The writing in Owlcat's game, and every other video game since the media's inception decades ago, is terrible.

Video game devs are not interested in hiring writers, like the film industry does, which is why you get nothing but drivel from video games.

Every single video game release they puke up and force-feed us this crap, but we're so accustomed to it that we rarely complain. Most people eat it up. We turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to it, while choosing to complain instead about lag spikes and other technical issues.

Humans are visual creatures. They like to imagine, create, and think abstractly. So, eye-candy is what most people are after when it comes to video games. They also have mathematical minds, which means order, exactness, exploration and orientation are atop the list.

Reading and writing have always been the lowest priority for video game devs. Like Carmack said:

>Story in a game is like story in a porn movie. It's expected to be there, but it's not important.

Take for example Tactical Adventures. They produce great RPGs better than Owlcat because they understand game balance, but they can't afford to hire writers. On look at Bethesda, who is worth billions, but will never hire good writers.

The day they start valuing writing, you'll hear about it, because the game will win countless 'Excellence in Writing' awards and steamroll the competition in that department.

Unfortunately, that's not going to happen any time soon, so don't get excited.

So here we sit. Another Owlcat game release on the horizon. A vomit of words.

Regill is as good as it gets in a sea of garbage. He's the only character in this game that shows a hint of intelligent writing. Even his voice acting is above the normal standards. Although, I quit playing this game after two hundred hours, so, feel free to use your writing genius to let the world know about any late-game characters that you believe show an inkling of flair in the dialogue department.

fw forced to kill jaethal

>>543263523
kotor 2
poe 1
only haters will disagree

>>543264018
Her evil route is more satisfying anyway. Especially with the implication in the ending slide that she's fucking your player character with her daughter's body.

>>543263928
>The writing in Owlcat's game, and every other video game since the media's inception decades ago, is terrible.
before I read another word of your doorstopper, do you have any credentials as a writer?

you are really posting about owlslop when you never played wizardry or toee?

>>>>>/reddit/

>>543264745
NTA, but "muh you need to have credidentials in X to have an opinion on it" is peak redditard pseud behavior

>>543264745
reminds me of that one youtube essay guy who constantly makes hour long videos about bad video game writing only for his own book to read like some shit a fourth grader wrote.

OWL BROS OUR ECELEB POSTED NEW FAN ART HOP ON REDDIT AND CROSS POST IT

>>543265187
Oh so you've only cooked slop and ramen in your life but you want to critique a fine dining testing menu? interesting

>>543265435
> you need to be a 6 gorillion star Mishulin cheff in order to say these literal human feces on your plate taste bad

I’m playing wotr for the first time. Is combat supposed to become an extremely boring and tedious slog after drezen?

>>543265728
>literal human feces on your plate
hyperbole not rooted in reality, you concede, you lose

>>543264873
Those are too old grandpa. /CRPG/ only plays newer games.

>>543265859
Credidentialism is low IQ, his claims stand on their own and you can't adress them. Keep granting yourself imaginary victories reddit tranny.

Fine dining fags might be the only cockroaches worse than 40cucks

>>543265187
It's like those faggots who post shit art, you criticize it for being shit then they go
>hurr durr can you draw better

doesnt 99.9999% of earth know how to read? you need literacy credentials? this isnt architectural design criticism

>>543266031
>I just want to know what makes you qualified to critique his game writing/restaurant food enjoyed by millions
>UHH LIKE I DONT NEED CREDENTIALS? IF I A SEE A PLATE OF SHIT I KNOW ITS SHIT? HUH IM SMART

>>543265857
Yes. I hope you like buffing.

what makes you qualified to say if my post is shit or not? are you a janny?

>>543255151
>better than prebuffing in Owlcat games
It's absolutely crippled by 5E design. Every spell is either damage or a concentration-based buff, which means there's no point in getting more than one buff since you can't use multiple. It's just lol Haste for every fight.

>>543266383
Logic makes him qualified. You can see if the writing is bad. If it's rushed, no relevant character development, inconsistent dialogue and character behaviour etc. You can taste undercooked or overcooked meat if it's chewy, not seasoned well etc.
Just like you don't need to be a game dev or pro-gamer to see if a game is shit, if it's a buggy mess with boring gameplay loop, no meaningful progression, boring story, uninteresting characters, bad balance etc.

>>543266642
truly spoken like a campcasting cheater
you did NOT beat the game

>>543266796
defined rushed writing (what makes it rushed? your bias?)
defined no relevant character development (why is this required of good writing?)
define inconsistent dialogue (inconsistent across what?)
define inconsistent character behavior (characters aren't allowed to have different views on different topics?)

>>543261938
my hopes
>male Savant, our new skillslut
>female daemonhost, for radicals
>female techpriest, practically confirmed
>female hive scum

>>543266987
I'm following Larian's intended game design :^)

While we're on the subject of Owlcat writing, I think the reason why RT was so much better received than Wrath was because all the characters felt like they belonged in setting. In Wrath, there were plenty of times where it felt like the characters were just some modern 20 somethings cosplaying, rather than actual characters that exist in Golarion. RT still has the issue of none of the party feeling dysfunctional (everyone hates each other) and overly verbose dialogue, but it works for RT unlike Wrath because 40k is a grimdark gothic baroque setting where empathy is considered sinful and everyone is a different shade of evil.

>>543267060
You know very clearly what I mean redditor I'm not defining basic shit for you. You are being disengenuous since
>(characters aren't allowed to have different views on different topics?)
is clearly not what "inconsistent character behavior" means, unless you're a retard, it's a sane character acting schizo all of a sudden when it suits the plot. A character that is intelligent, cold and calculating and showed no signs of being emotional, suddenly starts acting like a raging retarrd making rash decisions with 0 reason or development as to explain the change, but instead just acting crazy for the sake of the plot. When a writer makes a smart villain dumb all of a sudden so the hero can win. When a writer makes a pacifist merciful character act like a callous psycho with 0 reason to cause that shift all of a suddenn. When a writer makes a character that is uptight about his morals suddenly shit on them with no prior motivation or explanation of why. Example Yrliet kills an officer for touching her showing zero remorse for it even later, but shits on you for ordering that lower deck rabble be punished for slaughtering eldar refugees saying further bloodshed is wrong..Beyond that example she is shown to be contradictory sometimes not caring about human lives thinking they are nothing compared to Eldar and sometimes caring there are other dialogues throughout the game where she gives different coments, with it being random. It would make sense if she was like this early on and developed to care later, but it's random.

FORCING owlcat to not stat bloat the shit out of the system they are doing.

>>543267814
I think the reason is almost exclusively that 40k has a large fanbase used to extremely shitty games, and fantasy CRPGs have a much higher baseline.
Essentially, Wrath gets judged against the best CRPGs as a CRPG, RT gets judged against absolute trash as a 40k game.

>grimdark gothic baroque
Why do basedboys copy the gayest possible phrases?

>>543263928
I hope we get a female witch hunter
I think the admech will be a woman
some agile melee assassin since Ogryn is brute strength and officer type character, either gender works

Alright so it's basically impossible for me to convince Jaethal to spare her daughter now right? Every dialogue choice is just her telling me that I reinforced her actions and why I'm trying to turn back now. So I either need to make an evil decision or kill her.

>>543268951
>assassin
I know that the different kinds of assassins are in the Imperial Agents army alongside the inquisition, but does anyone know if they were a thing in Dark Heresy as well? We might potentially get one kind of assassin if they were present

>>543268485
all of that word soup to only name one example lol
>Example Yrliet kills an officer for touching her showing zero remorse for it even later, but shits on you for ordering that lower deck rabble be punished for slaughtering eldar refugees saying further bloodshed is wrong.
so what?

>>543269429
>contradictory behavior for no reason
>so what
Not gonna bother arguing

>>543267814
>all the characters felt like they belonged in setting
Idira belongs in either a Jamaican shantytown or a Louisiana bog depending on which local autist chimes in, and I would agree she doesn't really fit the way she's presented even if her character concept is fine.

Are 40k fans capable of forming an original thought? Or do they rely on their wife’s bf for those?

>>543267814
lol what wotr out sold rt and has more players on steam even now owldrone

you're either a hardcore Owlcrap fan or an unhinged hater, no in-between

that isn’t true. most of us like owlcat a bit. the problem is as soon as you levy a criticism towards an owlcat game the 40k cuckfags rage. so anyone neutral seems like a hater.

>>543269245
please respond

>>543270151
Most people are playing it for build autism. They don't actually engage with the characters or stories, or RP. In fact, most of them are running with mercenary parties and builds that make no sense from and RP perspective (ie.: monk dip on everyone).

>>543271053
okay? this is your interpretation of reality or why things happen. wrotr out preforming rt is absolute

While playing PF:wotr, i couldn't stop thinking about how awesome the game would be if it wasnt set in Golarion the boring plane (like in planescape torment), was pleasantly surprised that there's an act in the abyss halfway through the game
The crpg scene really needs more of these-- games set in "weird" setting where good and evil aren't clearly defined, and weird cooler races are everywhere (like tieflings)-- really

>>543269245
I always go the evil route with Jaethal even if I have to headcanon it being less evil than it is.

still fucking black women, still playing dei games. stay mad chuds

Thr first two baldurs gate games would be good if they had some actual difficulty like WOTR

>>543271643
Yeah weird settings are more fun.

wow it's so difficult to follow builds and prebuff before mowing down bosses this is hardcore gameplay

>>543271952
>following builds instead of coming up with your own
You didn't best the game

yeah i like hardcore gam-
*sees ToEE*
AAHHHHH SAVE ME NIGGERMAN I NEED MY ROMANCES

>no stealth/sneaking
>barley any actual movement mechanics
WOTR is just a glorified dungeon crawler/blobber.

stealth is the dumbest mechanic ever
yeah I rolled a 40 that means you can't see me in front of you teehee

Hehehehehe, I rolled a 43 you cant see this post.

Everyone but Abelard is stupid, but only Yrliet gets hated on for it.

>>543274409
Idira is just following orders.

Jimmy is just following orders.

Argenta simply never follows orders.

Abelard? Do this for me is the new I don't like you, die

>>543275542
shame they stopped doing the bit halfway through act 2. there were a few times in cumrag it would have been fun.

Rogue Trader patch when? I want to start my first playtrough :(

>>543275718
Its going to drop on warhammer day (Oct 25th)

>posting memes from reddit
>defending Yrilet
I see you've chosen to RP a cuck in real life too.

>>543275860
Noice thank you!

Why does warhammer have its own day?

I killed Jaethal :(

>>543276023
The only reason Xeno party members exist is to backstab them in the most painful way possible.

>>543275860
do we have some early infos/ patch notes?

>>543275860
>>543276069
Has that been confirmed? I said it as conjecture in one of these threads but I don't think a proper release date was given.

Owlcst leaker here its actually releasing the day after warhammer day.

>>543276884
TELL US WHO THE OTHER WAIFUS IN DARK HERESY ARE

>>543276023
Thanks for the gold kind stranger!

>>543276884
Could you guys delay it until November 1st? I want to finish my current run.

Is it just me or is 40k really similar to star wars?

Me smash

>>543278081
Warhammer 40000 Rogue Trader started off as Dune mixed with Tolkien mixed with Star Wars sprinkled with hair metal and the whole thing was an elaborate parody of 80s bongland. The Imperium is Thatcherism, orks are skinhead ultras etc,

>>543278220
>35STR
KWAB

>>543278220
>level 1
>already has endgame level stats

>>543278220
Who does this appeal to?

>>543279897
What do you mean? He is the tank.

>>543261938
from what we've seen
Ogryn: Likely to be a warrior Melee focused and Tanky kinda like Abelard, probably the first companion we get might get some companion specific traits to be beefier than usual i don't think he'll go ranged
Catachan: pretty obviously a Soldier but with the frequent mentions of his Knife i would assume he's designed to go Arch Militant probably second or Third Companion, reckon his viability as Arch-militant might hinge on how good his knife is, if we can use other weapons or if he can upgrade it.
Eldar Psyker: i kinda reckon he will be like Cassia in that while he is the established Pysker class he will have his own abilities because Eldar Pyskers have a different disciplines to humanity
Unnamed Human Pysker: likely the earlier game Pysker i think his icons suggest he's a pyromancer likely offence focused
Acolyte Medicae: seems like a pretty easy one, Operative Melee focused with some unique interactions with Drugs and likely healing
Kroot: Operative Assassin Sniper like Yrliet EZ PZ

so looking at Rogue Trader as a pattern to follow we have two more women that are going to be at least acceptable for an Imperium loyalist/Dogmatic MC, since Prologue and Chapter one of Rogue Trader was a perfect 3-3 Split between Genders and the Kroot and the Eldar are likely to be recruited later in the game
so assuming The Admech is Female that leaves us with 1 more Woman to be in early
you are right that the lineup doesn't have any officers, maybe thats the Admech? or another of the unrevealed one, hopefully we have at least two

i reckon the Order we get these companions will be, Ogryn, Guardsman, Medicae, Pysker, two unrevealed women, Eldar, Kroot, unrevealed male possibly the Night Lord for the evil root who knows
the comp makes you probably want a Melee PC since Ogryn and Medicae being the only dedicated melee ones while everyone else either seems like a hybrid or pure range

>>543279567
30 is the starting stat. Endgame stats are 80+

>>543206282
Oh oh Oh I WANNA BE DEADWOOD
I'll MOTHERFUCK YOU and BLOW YOUR HEAD OFF!
Fuck the Cavalry and the Committee that receives them!
Ad fucking hoc, free fucking gratis can we get on with the meeting?

>>543280215
no im talking about the actual tabletop since owlcat stats bloated the hell oit of there games.

>>543280136
>i don't think he'll go ranged
There are Ogryn specific ripper ranged weapons. And he is shown with one in gameplay footage along with mace and in the full inventory screenshoot.
>Kroot and the Eldar are likely to be recruited later in the game
Eldar is early game, as I recall devs said
Kroot is midgame according to leaker, unless plans changed

Also Kroot is shown with bird in concept art maybe she is a Overseer sniper
There are new archetypes being added so idk, maybe something else entirely

>thought crpg would eventually move one from RT
>owlcat is already developing another wh40k game
sigh

>>543280360
Who gives a shit. It’s the same thing with cosmetically bigger number

>>543261496
No it doesn't, because you have to agree with her and ditch Lann to do it.
>but Lann is le faggot and doesn't have tits!
This isn't a character trait, you're a bad roleplayer and you just want to make excuses. There's no reality where Lann isn't the correct side for a good alignment character.

>>543281065
you must be an owlcat dev since you dont seem to be able to correlate the fact that every owlcat game becomes piss easy half way through act 2 because they stat bloat the shit out of there games.

>>543271643
It rains blood in the worldwound. Sometimes eyeballs, too.
Fuck me I can't stop kicking myself for not getting Fencer's Gift this playthrough. So stupid.

>>543280812
feels like his stats would pull him in two different directions that wouldn't work that well
then again this is Owlcat questionable build choices are a thing, he just naturally fits more into the Tanky Melee guy
>Eldar
Yrilet is chapter two, so i think its reasonable to think this Eldar will be the same, i just think most of the others will be recruited before then

Why would Owlcat reveal late game companions instead of early game ones? My bet is that we have seen all the early to mid companions and the others are gonna show up way later and have zero content because that's Owlcat's lategame special.

Who’s your favorite owlcat waifu? Mine is Octavia

>>543264320
>poe1
really? Eothas wasn't the villain in that one.

>>543280360
But that's not true. To create a character in the Rogue Trader tabletop rpg, you generate your starting characteristics by rolling 2d10 and adding 25, which will average about a 35. Owlcat's starting baseline is 5 points lower than the average roll of the tabletop version starting baseline, which is 35.
Additionally, it's very easy to add more starting characteristics from your homeworld and career at character creation, meaning an optimized character can easily walk out of character creation at level 1 with a 50 in a stat. Roll well on your 2d10, and then get your choice of +5 and +5 from career and homeworld.

It is also not unusual to recieve characteristic buffs in the tabletop. A character that has invested their XP into advancing their characteristics and has received buffs from gear and abilities can easily look at an 80 on their character sheet, just like in the videogame.

>>543264745
Goddamn you're such a retarded faggot it's unreal. You don't need to be a writer to realize when shoddy writing comes up and starts humping your leg

>>543282284
Nobody would ever lie on the internet

>>543281616
But this Eldar is already working with inqusition sonit would make sense, plus I think I remember Starrok responding to someone asking about Larry that he will be an early companion.

Owlcat should make a ultima clone like a against the black priory.

I wish we would have gotten Arue still being kind of vicious/demonic even if she's doing good.

>>543282436
do you have any credentials to back that up?

>>543264745
So I can't critique pic related without credidentials?

>>543280360
Unlike their pathfinder games, Owlcat didn't actually copy the tabletop for their 40k game(s), they're using a heavily modified or unique ruleset.

Which is a shame because I really wanted to learn how to play the ttrpg through Rogue Trader, the rulebooks feel unapproachable and poorly designed.

>>543282837
nobody thinks pic related is highbrow literature or would pay 80 bucks for it, false equivalence

>>543281951
>Kingmaker
Nyrissa
>WoTR
Arue or Vellexia if I'm going demon
>RT
Kibbles

Lower numbers=every little stat is impactful
Big numbers=stats barely matter and we head towards jrpg stats

>>543281951
Jaethal

>highbrow literature
Neither is Owltranimal excrement

>>543281313
It doesn’t mean anything if the game is designed with those bigger numbers. If the numbers were smaller and everything else was the same you’d still have stat bloat.

>>543282837
This is a sublime gem, constructed from irony mined from depths of Atlantis

Western devs could learn alot from jrpg designers especially owlcat. There is a reason western rpgs were a dead market that had to be revived by bg3 while jrpgs have been a stable and thriving market.

Owlcat should make a wizardry/etrian odyssey clone.

>>543281951
Nyrissa
Arue/Nocticula
Cassia

>>543284215
they should make a game centered around characters, and leave their stupid ass side mechanics gimmicks for DLCs and stuff
I do not care about a crusade or my kingdom, I want to spend time with the cute paladin girl and I don't want to feel bad about it because the writers wanted to make a compelling and modern story
do you think I play cRPG because I dislike power fantasies???

tfw pathfinder tabletop sounds fun but I fucking hate old nerds

How neckbeardy and/or trooned is the TRRPG scene?

>>543284773
Boomers play dnd pathfinder is mostly younger millennials and zoomers

>>543284952
Pathfinder exists for old fucks who didn’t want to stop playing 3.5e

>>543284773
its very hard to actually encounter old nerds for online games. I've tried, since all the new theater kids in the hobby are insufferable.

>>543284773
Old nerds are based you fag.
New nerds are troons and posers.

If that female NPC wanted to escape the consequences of her actions, she should have offered sex.

>>543230136
>The gayest thing is that you cannot redeem/expose Calligos unless you let the eldar live
Unironically about to drop this game. How do Owlcats games get some much worse each time bros?

If I edit the player json in how do I properly change quest flags? For example a quest flag for "bad" is three codes but a flag for "good" is only two.

Now that I think about it I think the old losers would be better company than the younger players. I’d imagine the younger players are more like you faggy 40k cucks

>>543285107
No one except critical role and people new to dnd play 5e.

>>543284931
>neckbeardy
3.5e/Warhammer RPG/Warcraft RPG/old Cthullu
>trooned
5E/Pathfinder/Starfinder

>>543288037
Do people new to DND even exist? Whenever I meet someone who plays even 5e, they're in their 30s and have played with the same group for years.

>>543282871
>Unlike their pathfinder games, Owlcat didn't actually copy the tabletop for their 40k game(s), they're using a heavily modified or unique ruleset.
Honestly, that's better. Tabletop is inherently much more flexible. You have the DM to adapt the game and massage things over. You're safe making an uninformed decision because your DM will accommodate you. There's no case of
>I picked two-bladed swords to specialize in, but it turns out that the first two-bladed weapon spawns hours into the game, then I realize after many, many hours that there are only 2 double blades in the whole game, and both of them are shit.
It's why in many TT to CRPG adaptions, mechanics are streamlined. Going back to the above example, instead of having dozens of different weapon types to specialize in, you have a few major groups, like bastard swords, greatswords, zweihanders, and longswords would all fall into a single family of feats rather than spread out into their own individual feat trees. Certain skills and spells that are unviable in direct combat and thus useless in a CRPG are meta in tabletop due to their versatility and creative applications. That WotR does not simplify and streamline is the reason why there are so many unviable classes and weapon types.

>>543288754
That's because young people just talk about being fans of D&D without actually playing it. It would require friends, physical space to play, and attention span to learn how to play.
They'll definitely watch Critical Roll and silly youtube skits about seducing the dragon, and Paladins being annoying for wanting to actually play a Lawful good character.

>>543286743
Well supposedly its cause RT's last three acts were completely changed in the last 6 months leading to everything becoming completely fucked according to a dev interview. My opinion is that RT was the most blatantly unfinished of Owlcat's games and so that's the reason the quality drops off a cliff. Then again you get a permanent willpower debuff if you pick the icono option on Rykad so they might just enjoy punishing their players for not playing the game their way.

Post your unpopular opinions!

>>543282543
It seems like she has a few small moments like that. IIRC when she sees Targona for the first time she instinctively bows up for a fight.

>>543289627
Pathfinder is a cringe setting and just a watered down D&D with the same gradual removal of anything offensive like EVIL and SLAVERY
When you play a Paizo game you support furries in space

>>543289627
Tristian x Jaethal is cute

>>543289627
From my point of view, Good is evil!

>>543289627
Froggy is actually based as fuck

>>543290592
get a room

>>543229182
You do not need to romance Yrliet to get this result. You simply need to let her do the ritual and not interfere with it, which actually ENDS the romance if you are on it.

>>543289627
I don't like background xp aka party members leveling up when they aren't in your group. I like that in the two Owlcat games I played (Wrath and Kingmaker, never played the 40k game) you can turn that off. I like the way it gives me an incentive to use everyone and regularly shake up the party semi-randomly instead of using the same crew all the time. I even made a script that parses my latest save and lists all the party members by xp so I can at a glance see which ones are the lowest level to pick.

Cassia has fans
Argenta has fans
Yrliet has fans
why is Idira so unpopular?
>not a romance
Argenta has fans

>>543230136
Yes, that's one of the worst parts about that sequence, Owlcat made it so that you cannot deal with Calligos unless you're a filthy xenos sympathizer, which is asinine and retarded writing.

>>543289627
Your waifu is built for BBC.

>>543290807
Idiras my favourite companion
She's a ride or die psigga
I am an Idira and Vigdis supporter

>>543289504
>Well supposedly its cause RT's last three acts were completely changed in the last 6 months leading to everything becoming completely fucked according to a dev interview.
But why? What changed?
>My opinion is that RT was the most blatantly unfinished of Owlcat's games and so that's the reason the quality drops off a cliff.
It is much unchanged from alpha/beta.
>Then again you get a permanent willpower debuff if you pick the icono option on Rykad so they might just enjoy punishing their players for not playing the game their way.
This is true too, or rather they just like punishing their players. The Kingmaker funhouse becomes a stealth mission on a pure martial.

>>543290807
Bitches don't dare to gamble with perils and achieve true mastery of the warp. That or dogmafags who just instantly go "SHE'S UNSANCTIONED??? BLAM HER, BLAM HER NOW".

For a game where the entire premise is you getting a letter from the Emperor that says you can do whatever you want, it's got a large amount of players that still choose to roleplay as the strictest and most law-abiding Imperium stan. Maybe Owlcat should have started with a different context for a 40k game so all the people obsessed with PURGE, BURN, KILL got it out of their systems before getting the "everything is legal for you" 40k experience.

I think crpg players in general are pretty racist or else how do you explain the brown romance is always the least popular

>>543289627
i actually like the "i don't like you DIE" style of evil
its fun

>>543291370
>brown romance
the only 2 that come to mind are jacob and hexat both of which are bad for reasons beyond being brown (tho that definitely doesn't help)

>>543282457
>this Eldar is already working with inqusition
My guess is he'll be assigned to you by your boss
>you'll be working with special advisor Larry for this assignment
>But... but sir!
>Greetings mon-keigh

>>543291370
The only brown romance there's been so far in an Owlcat game is Jae, and Jae fucking sucks for reasons that have nothing to do with her skin color (though the whole "shereen" nickname thing also grinds on my nerves, but that has nothing to do with irl racism, I just think it sucks as a cultural trait).

>>543291742
I hope he doesn't spam mon-keigh like Yrlitard

>>543280136
Eldar will almost certainly be placed similarly to Jimmy
>Psyker who can handle both ranged and melee
>Has worked with the inquisition longer than you
>Knows things that you don't, is hesitant to share
>Encountered early but not at the very beginning
>Substantial female-only romance

Saw u guys talking about critical role and tried to watch a video. They are insufferably unfunny and annoying. Is that a realistic representation of dnd players? I was going to look for a group irl to play with but if they are anything like those tryhard freaks I won’t even bother. Screaming and fake laughing 15 seconds into a recording is fucking criminal.
If there are any decent tt yt series please let me know.

>>543228165
>They end up summoning a craftworld
That's a win-win for humanity. They achieve nothing while also killing half of their people. Eldar really are space retards

>>543292108
CR has 3 campaigns, each with 100+ episodes of 4+ hours each
how can you judge a 1500+ hour show from just a few minutes?

>>543290723
If you do that, doesn't she say
>sorry, they wouldn't listen
>but at least it'll take centuries before they get here

>>543292228
By the personalities they choose to present? Are they going to magically become authentic and secure 1000hours into a series?

>>543289627
You shouldn't engage with content you don't like. Kick the companion out or kill them, ignore side quests that suck, etc.
It shouldn't be unpopular, but a lot of people seem to struggle with it. Particularly the companion bit.

>>543290796
Is that unpopular? I thought that was the standard way to play.

>>543230136
>uuuhhhhhhm akshually i'm giving you a chance to be a good little cocksucker and let us get away with slaughtering a whole planet of yours, and if you don't you're the warmonger :)
Yeah, fuck off. Space elves get the noose. Every single one of them. Bring on the war. Imperium will recover from it in no time. leldar will never recover because they can't breed

>>543292449
yes

>>543291370
>>543291781
the tieflings are brown-coded and popular

>>543290895
What makes it dumber is that its not even like the Eldar reveal it. You find out after a distress call whilst leaving Tervantius's lab. There is zero reason you wouldn't be able to find out.
>>543291318
Someone else might have the interview but iirc it was something about wanting more player choice which is retarded because nearly all your RP options make zero sense and your companions barely comment on anything. Uralon and his plot get rushed through and the necrons are just tacked on.
>>543292210
True, humanity can easily replenish losses whilst each eldar gets vored by slaanesh. The issue is the ending slides make it seem like a bad thing and like its a close fight even though Theodora and Amarnat destroyed one with one tiny ass ship.

>>543292647
Sry bro I don’t watch nervous nerds

>>543292547
> Is that unpopular? I thought that was the standard way to play.
I dunno people always complain when there's not a background XP option and they have to use someone they never leveled.

>>543292834
you're so cool I bet you bet on sportsball

>>543292720
>Uralon and his plot get rushed through and the necrons are just tacked on.
I feel like the necrons were done first, since they're in the trailer and act 5 is actually pretty detailed, of short
Uralon was tacked on, but since you meet him first it ends up baffling and unsatisfactory

>>543291349
Dogmachad here. Literally never killed Idira ever because everyone can find redemption in the Emeperor's light and because perilmaxxing is the most fun I've had in this game

>>543292065
He will only call male players "mon-keigh"

>>543290807
she feels more like a elderly aunt in a realistic way and not in a "damn my aunt is hot hentai doujin" way, and I legitimately cannot imagine her in a romantic relationship and it feels like she has also long ago stopped considering that sort of stuff, heinrix even says it's a miracle that she's lived this long without the protection of the emperor, and not to mention the game throwing multiple different scenarios to kill her, So I imagine alot of people kinda find it emotional difficult to invest in her character with the game constantly bombarding you with "are you really really sure you wanna keep her around, and even if you do her existence will be short and miserable"
but I do find it really admirable that despite of her knowing she' not long for this world she still wants to do everything in her power to help you and your dynasty for as long as she's able to

>>543292916
That’s a weird thing to assume. I don’t gamble. I guess some dude who gambles on sports took the girl u fancy or something.
It’s ok if you think nervous weirdos are entertaining, doesn’t affect me. I just think they are off-putting. Sorry brother.

>>543292228
A show that's cringe in the first episode doesn't suddenly not become cringe

>>543293129
>she feels more like a elderly aunt in a realistic way
Yeah good description, that's why I like her. And I never bought into "she's soooo dangerous", the absolute worst thing that happened was no worse than a typical warp incursion during an orange junp

>>543292941
Given the first act was all about the cult I'm gonna go with no. Owlcat have this issue of scope creep and being retarded, they probably wanted to add necrons in the trailer to generate hype and then went to work adding them way later. They mention augments in the prologue and 2 years down the line we have to wait for another dlc to get them. The most recent Lex DLC was also unfinished, the dargonus pet vendor sells upgrade kits for the pet stations that only RT can use and they do literally nothing. I imagine its a leftover from being able to actually kit out your pet but since Owlcat are shit at meeting deadlines they axed it.

>>543293419
>upgrade kits for the pet stations that only RT can use and they do literally nothing
Yeah this was weird

>>543293129
>elderly aunt in a realistic way
No way fag. She doesn't look like an aunt, an eldery one at that. Your interactions with you are very motherly. You are her guardian, or a taskmaster, if you wish

It isn’t even just cringe, it’s embarrassingly bad. They can’t even get through the ad reads without doing that nervous fake excitement. Genuinely pathetic you can be a 30-something adult and still act that way.

I watch CR for Marisha
You wouldn't get it

>>543292325
No. I never had a romance with Yrliet and she worked out a deal just fine. I did treat the Eldar well throughout the entire story and saved every last one, though, since I was playing full Iconoclast on that run (which is the only run Yrliet survived in) and I believe that may have a great deal to do with the decision of the Eldar not to raid my domain.

I actually hope Larry is a decent romance so at least femcels get a decent elf husband who isn't a psycho.

I wish more CRPGs took the Fire emblem approach to romance/party dynamics where you yourself can pick a waifu and then you can also start pairing your party members up like a OCD Cupid who has to manipulate of the intergroup relationships for maximum efficiancy,
that way not only do people argue about which character they themselves are gonna romance but also how they socially engineer their group
tho I must Concede that it works in fire emblem so well because all the interactions tend to be very simple and short to keep up the pacing and not over complicate things

Bro watches a dnd yt series for a pretty girl….

>>543294081
The cuck schizos are already bad enough without that

>>543292720
>Make it seem like a close fight
If it was one of the main Eldar Craftworlds it wouldn't be a close fight they would wipe the pitiful Imperial forces out of the Expanse. Koronus is considered a backwater for a reason. If anything Owlcat heavily downplayed how disastrous an Eldar Craftworld showing up in the Expanse set on destroying Human worlds would be for the region.

>>543293758
Ohhhh ok that's what it is
Because whenever I play, that Shakaree guy or whatever is like
>well... You've always been fair to us. Let's give it a try

>>543294224
>how disastrous an Eldar Craftworld showing up
lol. lmao.

>>543293758
That's straight bullshit though
Why should I have to be nice to these fags for them not to attack me

>>543294224
>if the situation was different the results would be different
Ok?

>>543294224
it is explicitly an outcast craftworld

>>543294548
If you let that thing live you're a bigger enemy of humanity than any number of knife-ears

>>543294559
Autism

>>543294735
>he doesn't go on pokemon adventures catching C'Tan shards with Calcazar
Couldn't be me.

>>543294559
>mind control your people
>whipe out a whole planet of humans
>you have to be nice to them or you're a nazi
Game gives you zero reason to be nice to them or to let them live. Every step of the way they demonstrate that they don't give a shit about you. People who let them go have critical brain damage

>>543292108
>Is that a realistic representation of dnd players?
It's a massive entertainment thing now, they sell out live shows and have even gone to the UK. It's very different than a home game, naturally.
I think Campaign 2 was pretty good, campaign 3 sucked and I haven't watched the new thing.

>>543292449
>>543293402
Campaign 1 is very different than Campaign 2, and both are different than campaign 3. Campaign 1 started like in 2015, that's 10 years ago my dudes, of course they have changed (gone downhill imo)
Seems a weird thing to bring up and be mad about out of nowhere though.

>>543293569
It doesn't even boost the stats ffs. That is the laziest and simplest thing they could have done. They could have had a whole visual upgrade system where the mastiffs jaws would get biggers spikes or a maybe a golden trim but no let's release this unfinished crap.

>>543294978
Calcazar, Jimmy and me, the inquisitor, will run koronus from the shadows

>>543295270
Actions have consequences, mon-keigh.

>>543295396
>Seems a weird thing to bring up and be mad about out of nowhere though.

>guy that just heard of popular thing for the first time since it became popular 10 years ago
>decides that it's super cringe and needs to share that with the world
many such cases

>>543292108
I know this is bait but its not really that players try to be like critical role, its that they come into the hobby with the expectation every game is like critical role.

>>543295396
>gone downhill imo
I can not imagine how trash everything they've done if the first campaign was good, according to you. Because it almost died of cringe when I had the misfortune of watchning an episode. Had to spend a week in an ER

>>543295270
Has it occurred to you that a wise Rogue Trader might find it useful to be on good terms with these creatures? A few mind controlled soldiers, and some dead primitives on a planet that isn't even yours, are prices worth paying.

>>543295506
Indeed. That is why every single one of you is dead, filth

>>543295741
They don't do anything useful, so clearly you're too retarded to realize that you're only demonstrating your own weakness. Don't try to seem smart again, you only come off as even more retarded, mate

>>543294718
As I recall it isn't even a Craftworld that shows up, Biel-tan simply sends a number of its Outcasts to pick up the survivors and a few warbands to wreak havoc and vengeance if they were mistreated. Which is about the level of force you would expect given how irrelevant the Koronus Expanse is in the grand scheme of things.

>>543295973
Well they won't attack your little protectorate
That seems to have made you hopping mad

Guys I just found them to be very cringe and inauthentic in the episode I tried to watch. It was campaign 2 episode 1. I’m not mad at all. Just sharing my opinion. It’s ok if you guys like them. I just found it insufferable. The long hair guy was fine but everyone else had that desperate-for-attention fake excitement. I know you guys are socially awkward too but eventually you’ll be able to pick up on inauthentic energy too.
I’m really surprised they have so many defenders here. You guys must be longtime viewers or smthn

Guys I just found them to be very cringe and inauthentic in the little I tried to play. It was the first few hours of Kingmaker. I’m not mad at all. Just sharing my opinion. It’s ok if you guys like them. I just found it insufferable. The joan of arc girl was fine but everyone else had that desperate-for-attention fake importance. I know you guys are socially awkward too but eventually you’ll be able to pick up on inauthentic energy too.
I’m really surprised they have so many defenders here. You guys must be longtime players or smthn

Some guys just got it…. Some don’t….

>>543296097
That's what happens if you get Yrliet to convince them to chill. At the start of the convo (after you get Calligos to go away) he says a craftworld is coming and Yrliet says they'll listen since it's an outcast craftworld.

>>543297870
>Outcast
>Craftworld
Imagine the autism

>>543296943
>likes critical role
>doesn't like Kingmaker
checks out

never could I have imagined someone would be this upset about people not liking his eceleb dnd players

What are the realistic chances that Larry fucks the femcel inqusitor?

never could I have imagined someone would be this upset about people not liking his janky dnd game

I think kingmaker sucks too. I don’t know what you’re going for here.

>>543298592
Well quite high. I'm serious when I say he'll be similar to Jimmy. Him already having worked with the inquisition already makes him completely different to Yrlishart

It's making fun of your inflated sense of self-importance
>guys I don't like thing
Thanks for sharing

>>543297870
There's no such thing as an Outcast Craftworld, my man, being an Outcast is a specific path that individual Eldar can follow. You did not understand what was being stated, apparently, which was that Biel-tan would be sending some of its own Outcasts to Koronus to retrieve the Crudarach survivors. This is all they do if you have good relations with the Eldar and consistently helped them throughout the game. If you fucked with the Eldar though Biel-Tan also sends several warbands into the expanse to raid, kill, and pillage.

king maker is good
eceleb shit is bad
simple as

>>543298592
If there are no good waifus I will roll a femquisitor to fuck Larry so I hope the chance is 1

>>543298831
Yeah I was wondering what the fuck they were talking about. I too thought they said craftworld entirely of outcasts

>>543298592
It would be funny if Larry turns out to be an asshole

To be honest, if you’re getting this worked up about me sharing an opinion you disagree with it is clear that I am more important than you. You are beneath me if you get this defensive about eceleb shit. You are a pathetic man and I enjoy making you feel bad.

guys I don't like king maker
especially not the cringy halfling, linzo or whatever

>>543299169
Jimmy is an asshole so this tracks

>fuck with a faction
>that faction is angry that you fucked with them
wtf...

He watches critical role for the girl. He gets off to being pathetic and feeling bad.

The eceleb fan really lost the plot, eh?

>>543296343
Not your blog or discord.

This post is off-topic.

>>543295431
>It doesn't even boost the stats
Yeah but think of the balance issues

Samefagging XD

If you're going to post froggy fanart at least mspaint it yourself

>>543295431
Upgrade could have given the animal an extra item slot

>>543292228
I tried watching them never could give enough of a fuck to get a quarter through any of them. The new one is at least more interesting with the rotating table, although I'm not sure why the players agreed to do it can't be very fun to sit there 3 hours and play 10 minutes but their problem

nobody asked

>>543299184
Too bad you can't kill her protected by goddess that won't let her die

>>543300798
You're right the game is so well balanced right now. I forgot the mastiff is already the highest damaging pet and build in the game.
>>543300948
It could have done anything but the devs are lazy hacks. If the companion and quest are gonna be lame and rushed at least let us have an interesting class. A mount could have been cool but given how fucked Ulfar's movement is its probably for the best.

Owlcat and Tactical adventures both have "I dont like you DIE!" options in there games. If the two best modern crpg studios do it then it must be good writing.

Are you playing roles today?

>>543303186
Top 3 modern crpg studios
1.larian
2.everyone else

Top 3 modern crpg studios
1.larian
2.owlcat
3.obsidian

>>543302387
>mount
How could you possibly see this making any sense

>>543303336
>that camera shake because of uncontrolled laughter
:D

Why are there no iomadae romance options

>top 3 modern crpg studios
1. Dropped more work on and franchising on overhyped DOS2 clone after "success" to drag feet for last few years
2. A cavalcade of has-beens and slavs parroting former greats

>>543299653
>>543300379
Kek

>>543304160
1) You now take up 2 spaces
2) You get extra move points
3) Party members can use you as cover
The lizard-cat Jae gives you should have been rideable

>>543290723
Oh ok, it must be due to having saved the eldar survivors and a few other thing. Because in my case I did romance her and did interrupt the ritual (see the cracked spirit stone)

>>543304160
You are gay and lame.

unity jank isnt modern

rogue trader should’ve had like….lightsabers and ummmmmmmm big titty cannons that shoot lasers….

Which Wizardry game do I start with?

How do I measure psy ratings irl?

>>543206282
What's his endgame?

I just got to my mythic path choice, what's stopping me from picking demon and taking good choices anyway? I wanted to be a conflicted hero anyway

is there a better crpg than baldur's gate 3?

So far I hate all the characters in Dragonfall except Eiger
Besides her they're all such committed anarchists, it makes me sick

>>543308926
I want to climb Eiger
Anyway, the Dragonfall cast is fine but I do find myself not really missing any of them. Glory is memorable because she's hot but her actual character is whatever, the mage is bland and don't get me started on that ginger fuck. Eiger is also a pain in the ass but that's intentional, and makes her stand out from the rest.
I do think Hong Kong's cast is stronger, and the story and atmosphere are better, but the central mystery and conspiracy behind Dragonfall is fantastic too, it's just weaker on the character side

>>543308756
nothing
reject destinies

>>543308756
>pick demon
>act relatively good besides tard rage moments in act 2 and 3
>dominate everyone in act 4
>switch to GD in act 5
that's my canon KC's path

The Mastiff should have been romanceable by female RTs

>>543308657
>dat ass

>>543309259
>>543309930
Okay cool

>>543289627
Argenta not being a romance option cost Owlcat millions of dollars
BG3 would have been better with no voice acting because it set standards for later games too high and Jew executives now expect even higher profits with even more cost invested into games
Solo character ccrps are better than ones with allies

>>543310025
The mastiff belongs to Solomorne

>>543309930
unholy cringe
For me it's angel into swarm

This seems likable and not annoying

>>543313381
Just wait

>>543313381
ex gf traumadumps imminent

Oh shit it's THE Blitz

>>543281136
i only agree with her to save her, as she needs saving more than lann.

>>543289627
Cassia is not cute

>>543313237
He can watch

>>543313243
you are a degenerate
I believe in heroic ideals
we are not the same

>>543308901
Depends in what regard. In terms of immersion and how "alive" the world feels (due to mocap, full VA, and cinematic camera angles), no. Anyone who claims these things don't matter is a coping boomer. Like it or not, characters feel more expressive when you can hear their voice, see their facial expressions and watch their body language.
In terms of how interactive the world feels (sneaking around, manipulating environment, etc) it's definitely up there.
In other regards it doesn't really stand out that much.

>>543316002
I believe in good stories
>Start out as an angel believing the crusade to be righteous
>Start to resort to extreme measures like the vescavors under the weight of leadership
>Be broken by the betrayal from Galfrey/Staunton/Camellia/The hand of the inheritor
>Final straw is learning that your powers are not divine at all
>Fall into despair and embrace the swarm
It's peak kino
Only wish you could ascend as a swarm

Does idira smoke real ass dutt pack or fake ass boof pack?

>>543316274
Really wish Devil was a "fallen" path for Angel rather than Azata. The Azata route Devil always never made sense to me.

>>543316576
Yeah true

Idira shouldn't ve the only one who does drugs, jimmy should do crack.

Alright fuck this. I am literally going to start over a 50 hour file to save Jaethel. I've tried editing the player.json to the proper quest flags and either it doesn't work, I can't find all the ones listed in the sources, or the file doesn't load. I hate my autism.

>>543317078
Jimmy pushes crack to low income neighborhoods

is there anything owlcat does better than larian?

>Lawful
>Don't free the slaves because the law around here accepts slavery.

What is with the Lawful options in Owlcat games? 80% of them are very LE, but as a Paladin, you end up having to take them to keep your alignment. I remember some of the Lawful options amounting to "redemption (even for non-demons) is not possible" and "mercy is foolish," which is very LE coded.

>Can only save ekun by brutalizing trolls and bringing him to do it if you also let the kobolds live
Isn't this weird I thought all you had to do was kill the troll children not to also have him in your party

>>543317237
Build autism and companions

>>543317330
>companions
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>543317237
It has more customization

>>543317310
You have to understand that they're Russian. They have very different concepts on what it means to be both Lawful and Good.

>>543317330
No my archmage young mel gibson fucked goddess of magic level 1 is good

>>543317237
Actual roleplaying. Being evil and/or powerhungry in Owlcat games give you tangible rewards. Being evil in BG3 literally gives you nothing apart from locking you out of shit. I remember the drow bitch being only recruitable on evil runs only for Larian to change that because reddit kept crying about it.

>>543317549
Some of the best items in BG3 are locked behind evil choices.

Larian=Micheal Jordan
Owlcat=Kobe
Obsidian=LeBron James

>>543317237
Writing.

>>543317658
Name 2

>>543317310
If you're in a country where slavery is legal then yes it's Lawful to accept that. Not sure what the issue is here. At the very least Wrath is more consistent with the Lawful options. In Kingmaker half the shit Valerie says or does clearly falls into LE even though her alignment is LN.

>>543317658
Evil choices in act 1 leave you without many of the best items, evil choices in act 2 leave you without another variety and all you get is better shar armor in return which doesn't match up to what you lose

Evil choices should leave you worse because it's bad to encourage players to be evil.

>>543317907
It often does though and most people play good

In fallout 2 the evil options actually got you a ton of money and items and you could rape and blow kids heads off with a rocket launcher.

>>543317669
wasn't funny the first time and isn't funny the 13th time you repeat it

Don't piss off your artisans, don't kill your smith
Evil can be dumb

>>543317669
LMAOOOOOOOOOO THIS IS SO FUNNY

>>543317770
The spear of Shar is the best weapon in the game. It's piercing damage, which means it pairs very well with the Bhaalist armor, which doubles piercing damage.

>>543317998
Both of the rape scenes were you can rape feel really out of place in fallout 2. and the scene were you can get raped as a low int female kinda comes out of nowhere

>>543318334
>The spear of Shar is the best weapon in the game.
Bro shut the fuck up, it's not even top 5
>which means it pairs very well with the Bhaalist armor,
So does every piercing legendary weapon like the duellist's prerogative
And on top of that the good path also gets a pity legendary spear

Games devlopers can easily add evil routes where you get way more money and items plus get to be a mega dick for fun, they just choose not to.

>>543317310
I think BG did this better. For instance, there's a part of the paladin questline where you have the choice to follow the laws and thus become an accessory in evil (a dickass noble was using badly written laws to cause misery) or break the laws to do good. The second option gets you pats on the back from the other paladins while the first gets you kicked out of the paladin order.

>Kim really trusts you
Best writing in a crpg ever

Brian Fargo on the topic of evil

https://youtu.be/tjeRn2eA3y4?t=3801

>you have to allow the the player to be evil, otherwise they can't be good. If all you have is like medium to good then are you really being good?

>>543289627
Cyberpunk is a tired, derivative genre because it stems entirely from one book, Neuromancer, which was completely an analogy for druggie culture, and makes no sense when taken out of that
>the grimy setting
>the slang
>the way a hacker gets their brains fried if a run goes bad, just like an OD

>>543318717
Skyrim is the only game I can think of where being evil feels canonical. Your character is an amoral mercenary at best, most of the factions require your dude to be evil (see werewolf one where you slaughter your way through innocents and the others laugh it off), and it's canon that your character enjoys hurting and dominating others because of his draconic nature. Most of the unique artifacts are locked behind evil options, and the few times the game gives you a good option, it prematurely ends the quest halfway through without giving out a reward. This might just be because Bethesda are souless hacks and have a (rightfully) low opinion of their fanbase.

>>543316274
I wish instead of a swarm of locusts it was a mass of collectively superintelligent cranium rats like in Planescape: Torment.

>>543319376
Makes sense in wasteland 3 you can do some pretty evil shit, i was actually surprised when you could side with the cyborg slavers.

>>543318626
>Bro shut the fuck up, it's not even top 5
Mathematically, it pretty much is. With 27 STR, GWM, Bhaalist armor, you're looking at up to 70 damage a hit, before crits or damage riders. You also get a cleave ability that can add Smite damage to each hit.

>And on top of that the good path also gets a pity legendary spear
It sucks and no one uses that.

>>543319764
>you're looking at up to 70 damage a hit
Monks beat that
Nyrulna is just that but better and available for everyone
Also you mention the armor of bhaal and this has a range effect. If you're close enough for the effect to proc on the opponent, you'll get disadvantage on the throw for being too close
This reads like you looked up an ign guide on the best weapon builds or whatever and just regurgitated the first line you found

I hope the next thread is more fun.

How fun is Sentinel in Mass Effect 2 and 3? Always went with Vanguard but want to try something different this time.

>>543320075
>Monks beat that
Moving the goal posts. We're talking about the best weapons in the game. It's irrelevant that Bruce Lee can punch harder.
>Nyrulna is just that but better
It's close, but the spear is better, mathematically speaking.
>This reads like you looked up an ign guide on the best weapon
IGN guides would claim that the pity legendary spear is comparable to one that can crit for 140 damage.

>>543320706
>We're talking about the best weapons in the game
We're taking about the best ITEMS. ITEMS unable monks to do that
>but the spear is better, mathematically speaking.
Explain how. Nyrulna makes a bonus explosion, also has piercing damage and has the thrown property by default+ other useful features like no fall damage. How is shar's spear better.

Going from Drezen to Kingmaker's mud huts is humbling

>>543320637
Very strong but not very fun in 2. Much better in 3 because of the new combo system.
My favourite class in andromeda though

>>543320524
for me it would be more fun to see what your playing with some commentary instead of that whiny bitch post you just made

Why is Kingmaker so colorful? that's not at all how clothes and buildings would have looked for the time

>>543322949
what time was that, anon?

>>543323201
you know, the middle ages with horses and kings and chamber pots where people shat in before they had toilets

>>543322949
I hate that pop culture collectively decided that everything older than WW2 was just brown

>>543290796
>I even made a script that parses my latest save and lists all the party members by xp so I can at a glance see which ones are the lowest level to pick
I might not agree with you on background xp, but a man has to respect shit like this

Is there any game to play after Bg3 that won’t feel like a major downgrade in overall experience

Obviously I understand there are deeper stories and more impactful choices out there but it won’t feel the same if they’re just written in 50000 word essays they expect you read and the only audio accompanied is a grunt or uh huh

>>543323847
but it was

>>543324115
Bg3 doesn't have any challenge in it try just about anything

>>543324161
Literally false. Medieval clothing was very colourful

medieval preferred bright colors and dyes more than modern people - lots of grey cars and t shirts

>Gale becoming a god is bad
>Astarion becoming a vampire ascendant is bad
>Shadowheart becoming the pope is bad
Yes, do not try to become a better man, stay a slave to your boss
Nice message larian

will north americans ever produce a decent crpg again

What was everyone's favorite part of bg3?

>>543324808
Halsin cucking me
Really gave me owlcat vibes

>>543309930
I also did this
Was pretty fun

>>543324808
when i figured out the requirements for the orin romance

I need a whole lot more liquid fuel than I'm generating wtf do I use?

>>543324943
preach

>>543324496
How the fuck would you know? Were you there?

>>543325292
harness aetheric energy

I'm noticing that Kingmaker had better cape physics for some reason. They look sturdy and like actual capes. The ones in Wrath look like wet paper towels and constantly flutter around. Wonder why the downgrade?