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>News
• Dragon Quest Smash/Grow, a Roguelite RPG for Android & iOS. Closed beta runs from October 14, 2025 to October 21, 2025.
• Dragon Quest I & II HD-2D Remake. Launches October 30, 2025, on Switch, Switch 2, PS5, Xbox Series X|S, and PC.
• Dragon Quest VII Reimagined. Launches February 5, 2026, on Switch, Switch 2, PS5, Xbox Series X|S, and PC.

>Now Available
• Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake. Out now on Switch, PS5, Xbox Series X|S, and PC.
• Dragon Quest Monsters: The Dark Prince. Available on Switch, PC, and mobile.
• Dragon Quest Builders. Now on PC with all mobile port QoL features.
• Infinity Strash: Dragon Quest The Adventure of Dai. Available on PS4, PS5, Switch, and PC.
• Dragon Quest Treasures. Available on Switch and PC.

>Other Updates
• Dragon Quest XII: The Flames of Fate. Officially announced, title revealed. No further details yet.

>Guides:
• /dqg/ Beginner's Guide to Dragon Quest: https://imgur.com/gallery/kE7vCn2
Versions to Play/Buy: https://pastebin.com/TcW5bgqv
• DQM3 Resource: https://dev.metalkid.info/DQM3/Monsterpedia
• Dragon Quest IX DLC/Treasure Map Searcher: https://pastebin.com/Paf0Ypme
• DQB2 Resources: https://pastebin.com/ykdKc201
• DQX Resources: https://pastebin.com/kE3XGQNS

>Links:
• ROMs/Hacks/Mods/Translations: https://pastebin.com/QbQS5i2S
• Anime/TV: https://pastebin.com/a2cRRuzi
• Music: https://pastebin.com/NceqwLAa
• 日本DQ Wiki: https://wikiwiki.jp/dqdic3rd/
• DQ Art, Guide Books, Non-H Doujins: https://pastebin.com/GnaCV4vW

>OP
https://pastebin.com/RSbUEyfQ

>BROTHERS IN ARMS
>>>/vg/eagg/

Are Hoodlums men or monsters?

We died. WE FUCKING DIED!

>>543620305
Yes.

>>543621646
>Thou art dead.

Anyone excited for VIIR? I am excited for the voices and graphics, but don't care for the UI, puppets, DoF, kiddification, or dumbing down of the gameplay even further. I was wrong about the FFT voice acting and found it really enjoyable, so here's to hoping DQVIIR voices are half decent.

>>543622526
>or dumbing down of the gameplay even further

>>543622917
They got rid of the puzzles to unlock the saint equipment, so they'll probably streamline it even more.

>>543622917
The battles were steamrolled as soon as Maribel learned Boom as well and could nuke all the enemies on 3DS.

>>543622526
Not really, not after they were confirmed to be removing entire storylines from the game. Filler or no, they were still part of the overall DQ7 experience, and they could have easily moved them to the optional pile instead of just removing them outright.

>>543623110
>>543623424
sounds like autistic bullshit on par with the guy screeching about healing on level ups

>>543625468
I agree with the autist, if you get free MP recovery, there's no point in interacting with inns, recovery items, or prayer rings.

>>543623110
3DS already did that
>>543623424
Same thing happens in PS1 once you get access to classes.

>>543625732
except that only happens like once a dungeon or something, unless you somehow get level ups every few battles or something? How does that stop you from having to interact with inns, recovery items or prayer rings? (the latter two being so sparse and so unreliable i bet most don't interact with them anyway)
Besides, in my experience what really stops that is simply the numbers being tweaked specifically towards never needing to do that, not "free" heals. Like for example i'm playing the newest rune factory game and even on hard mode you basically never need to heal simply cause the numbers (damage received, enemies' health) are too low: installing a mode that multiplies those numbers suddenly makes the game more engaging in that sense (i'm using one that multiplies both by 4 times, and it's still not that hard).
Like take dark souls for example: its perceived "difficulty" is all down to enemies potentially killing you in a few hits no matter what, even though the games still gives you lots of healing opportunities, and dare i say the equivalent of free heals on level up by getting to bonfires that heal you and refill all your items, but the point is that the battle damage is skewed towards actually mattering and actually making you go "i need to use this and that". The game eventually leaving you without juice when you're 3/4 in a dungeon is just padding to make you backtrack and double the play time, cause otherwise you'd be done with the game "too quickly" (and even then, backtracking and then getting back also means you risk overlevelling, unless you autistically flee from fights)

tldr no

Does anyone here play X Online? It’s really good and worth it if you don’t.

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone knows more about how this hidden slime event works. Can I find them just anywhere I look or are they only in towns, only in fields, etc? Are they different for every player or is there some kind of list to look up?

>>543632402
>Does anyone here play X Online? It’s really good and worth it if you don’t.
that's nice but they don't want me to play it so i won't
t. yuro

>>543629821
NTA but I had many moments in my draconian playthrough of 3HD where I'd be running low on MP on my healer(s), then they'd level up and I wouldn't have to worry anymore, or I would see that they're close to a level and I can just grind 3 more fights instead of evacing.

The free healing is only really frequent during the absolute early game which already tends to be face rollingly easy once you get boomerangs and the bang line. Around Level 20ish in HD on Draconian, exp gain slows down so much that you cant really bank on the free healing to carry you and enemies get strong enough that you have to regularly heal etc.
The real issue is that its too easy to gather resources if you're diligent in finding sparkly/secret spots to the point that only ever spend cash on specific gear and items.

>>543637026
ye and i don't see how that's bad, you saved yourself a trip back and having to redo the whole dungeon again by managing your resources. I don't think anyone in their right mind would say "yeah i would've liked having to backtrack instead!".
Like i do get stuff like evac being 0 mp, that makes no sense, or them gradually removing the no zoom indoors thing (which is more about atmosphere than pure gameplay stuff), but the rest is just a good thing

>trailer video
>Moonbroke did nothing but spam Insulatle and Magic Barrier on bosses

>>543638352
She's a pure mage she has a lot more than that

>>543638595
Its just funny because you see Cannock-kun using Kasizz, Kazap, Zap and Kazing so he was the MVP vs Basusu.

>>543638595
So I guess to review from last thread on how the DQ2 gang will get DQ3's skills and spells doled out:
>Midenhall - All Warrior, with some Martial Artist skills for good measure
>Prince Cannock - Dabbles between everything, but excels at nothing. Has the requisite Zap spells in place of no-magic Midenhall
>Moonbrook - Full Sage, period, but picks up some Monster Master skills owing to her canine curse
>Princess Cannock - Gets all the weird and funny skills and spells that don't fit the others and is mainly support, but she's also the semi-Gadabout who potentially wastes turns being useless.
Sounds about right?

>>543644859
Hero - Cannock M
Warrior - Midenhall
Martial Artist - Midenhall
Priest - Cannock M/Moonbrooke
Mage - Cannock M and F/Moonbrooke
Thief - Midenhall/Moonbrooke/Cannock F
Gadabout - Cannock F
Merchant - ???
Monster Masher - Moonbrooke

>>543645993
I figure Merchant will get its skills split between the Cannocks and Moonbrooke.

Midenhall is a bit of an oddball not having any magic but I guess Ortega didn't have any either.

>>543647306
Ortega is throwing Fullheals on himself during his fight with the King Hydra (until his MP runs out), plus he's shooting off Frizzes against Garboyle in the intro. Even he wasn't a no-magic brick.

>>543649546
In the remake he only uses melee attacks in every fight scene

>>543625468
>>543637469
NTA but I think this is genuine difference in opinion. I like being crunched for resources. Healing on level up can tip things to be a bit too easy. I also would have preferred to have the puzzles. However I'm hopeful regarding 7R. Seems like the combat is modeled on XI which had good battles. I'm interested in the multiclassing. 7 3DS' class system did not work for me. I liked the PS1 version more but it's a bit too simple ultimately.

>>543647306
I choose to believe he CAN use magic, he just thinks magic is gay shit for pussies and tells everyone he has 0MP.

>>543651053
He has MP now in the remake but it's only used on melee abilities

"muscle points"

No dying.

>>543622526
It sucks that it can't be perfect, but I am still fairly excited for it.
I'm actually glad there's no class costumes, a lot of them were lame imo.

Why am I more excited for 2HD than 1?

>>543668852
because 2 is the better game?

>>543669345
kek, non-sensical shit list

>>543668852
Because even with the extensions to the story, DQ1 is still ultimately going to be the short transitional episode between 3 and 2.

>>543671946
>DQ3 sets up Hargon
>DQ1 has Dragonlord
>DQ2 makes the team deal with the true threat

>>543672902
It's why I still intend to at least play DQ1 first. The way it's structured in the trilogy as the simplest plot of the three, jumping to that after 3 makes 1 feel meaningless.

>>543674671
Horii remade them in the order of 3/1/2 on purpose. You cant assume that DQ1 will be the same Hero beats the Dragonlord and saves the Princess story anymore.

Speaking to Game*Spark (translated by Automaton Media), Dragon Quest 7 Reimagined producer Takeshi Ichikawa explained why the 2000 RPG skipped the remake queue, saying that "we felt that the game’s unique atmosphere and tone would resonate especially well with players today."

Ichikawa elaborated, "When it first came out, 7 was often said to have more dark and sorrowful episodes compared to other entries in the series. But nowadays, players are much more accustomed to games with darker stories." And that thanks to that the producer thinks that through this new version, modern players will be able to feel 7’s story and the emotions of the characters even more deeply.”

>>543677491
Honestly very weird that they removed parts of it when they think its a game that'll resonate with people better today than it did in the past. Especially when 100+ hours is like the expected length for RPGs and stuff now.

>>543679086
>100+ hour rpgs are considered the norm
No. Only certain franchises are allowed to get away with it.
7 has always been a contentious game, to the point that even people like Hino from Level 5 complained about it to Horii.

>>543680348
>Only certain franchises are allowed to get away with it.
DQ11 was just as long as 7 though, both games took me 120 hours, hell act 3 bumped 11 up to 160 hours.
Feels like every new RPG I play is 100 hours minimum, even things outside the genre like the new Zeldas have well over 100 hours of content, games on average are long as fuck nowadays.

>>543681132
>games on average are long as fuck nowadays.
If only, anon...

>>543681132
Games these days are generally shorter

>>543669345
9 and 10 belong in the shit tier and 5 belongs in S

>>543689170
EAT THE LEAF CANNYCOCK

>>543669345
Might as well post my own. B tier could really go in just about any order, but the rest are in order.

>>543681132
yeah because you play them as expected. You take your time, you do everything (or most things) there is to do and most importantly you don't look up guides online. In short you're based and other people that think games are shorter nowadays are retarded because it's objectively false

>>543671946
DQ1 is more important than DQ2 because Gwaelin is a cutie pie. :)

>>543689170
Not the crab stance...

>>543681132
DQ11 is almost 10 years old. Its hardly representative of a "modern game".

>>543681132
New Digimon game averages around 40-50 hours. And that's doing all the side content.
And part of me does wish it was a bit longer to fully get use out of some things in it.

>>543699459
Well Metaphor and Persona 3 Reload were last year and both took me over 100 hours to finish.
Elden Ring isn't that old and is over 100 hours.

8 days until I+II remake
Are you feeling it now, mr krabs?

>>543700721
I feel my hair falling out.

Redpill me on the DQ2 3DS remake.
I have seen people claim it is the best Monsters game.

1R should still be pretty short right?

>>543704490
It will be longer than the original

>>543704490
Short in like 20 hrs?

MIDhall
CanCOCK
MoonBARK

Cant wait to see all the Elves in the upcoming DQ games!

Frizz>Boom>Zap>Crack>Zam>Whoosh>Sisz

Bap>Shink>Pow>Blorp>Zoot

>>543714804
A-anon I the E-elves t-they...

>>543714804
They're not elves they're fairies

>Beat Zoma
How's the postgame?

>>543716869
Considered Nintendo Hard in some aspects.

>>543716869
Good in some ways, fucking awful in other ways.

>>543716869
If you're on draconian I hope you abused the reclass stat boosts about five times before using any seeds on your party or you're gonna be in for a very grindy time.

>>543703229
>>543703229
>>543703229
please respond

>>543720643
There's no DQ2 3DS remake, the first ever remake of DQ2 is coming out in a week.

>>543703229
>>543721447
Ah shit I mean DQ2M
EMM

>>543721447
>the first ever remake of DQ2
Anon...

>>543721516
or DQM2
fuck me Dragon Quest Monsters 2 Remake. Is it actually the best Monsters game?

>>543721643
SNES version only came out in Japan unless you count that mobile abomination.

>>543722417
Well, I don't only count versions that got overseas releases or we'd be talking about 5 and 6 first coming out long after 7.

>>543722417
Okay but

I hope the helpful platypunk from Kenshin makes a cameo in the 1 remaster.

Post breakfast bump.

Only a week to go lads

>>543730512
>no, we will NOT use Toriyama art, ever!
what was wrong with them

>>543752704
In the 80s they thought people in the west didn't like anime art or something

>>543752704
DBZ hadn't reached popularity in the West yet, so the attitude was still very much "anime = unmarketable".

>>543741571
Post breakfast bump...

>>543721803
im biased towards dqm1, but i have yet to play the 3ds remakes for either

Do you get anything for having both HD Remakes on one console?

https://youtu.be/_8JyNzeTPpc?si=nRZw2t2OdNQgJq86
DQ2 bros...

>>543774447
Did we know about the succubat?

>>543776496
Didnt they debut in 11?

>>543776626
Yeah, but so did the Iron Maiden and I already knew the remake had one of those.

New 1 & 2 story trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad9ftV2fsHM

>>543779438
Hargon WILL have friends!

>>543781516
Story continues past Malroth into the Erdrea/DQ3 world?

>>543781516
that text shows up for both 1 and 2
builders CHADS rise up

>>543784934
cutebrooke

>>543784934
>Prince of Cannock is the pack mule

Moonbrooke curling up on the floor
Moonbrooke gnawing on bones
Moonbrooke yapping at and chasing after squirrels

>>543784934
nice reference

[good news] Nintendo has taken my money for my pre-order

Hargon is OUR friend.

>>543744819
I'm starting to feel it

>>543782815
it's caravan hearts' turn

>>543786213
At least his coffin has plenty of item capacity.

>>543782815
would be cool if they add something from those as secret bosses or something, like pic related

>>543818163
>A single shitty castle literally named "Half The World"
Should've read the fine print.

>The reward for having both games on the same console/steam are some dog/cat costumes
Ehhhhh, I'm not feeling having DQ1/2/3 on Steam desu.

>>543820456
and there's also gonna be save bonuses from and to 1+2 and vii reimagined

>>543820607
I want to play DQ7 Reimagined on a big tv screen not on a computer/laptop. I dont see the point in buying a Steamdeck either.

I am once again asking if DQM2 for the 3DS is truly the best Monsters game or not

>>543820932
you do know computers can be hooked up to big tvs too right? Or alternatively doing what i do: use my hacked switch (but you can use any other hardware really, and there's plenty of choice of software too) to stream from my pc and then use the dock to hook my switch to the big tv. Visual quality is almost perfect (ironically my pc is the bottleneck i discovered, and only for really heavy games) and lag is only a problem for games that require very precise, frame perfect button presses, everything else can be played just fine. And even then it's nothing that really affects DQ games in any case
but anyway i don't want to get into some retarded discussion about what's ultimately personal preference, obviously you do you, hell the only real reason i usually play on pc is because of mods and the eventual piracy and that's it, like my pc's resolution is 1080p still cause i actually think i don't need any more than that

>>543822104
>you do know computers can be hooked up to big tvs too right?
I tried that once and the output was a very low-quality and unresponsive mess.

>>543822798
heavily depends on what you did, what you used etc
>ok but consoles are just plug and play ez
i know, which is why i'm not saying anyone is wrong for using them, especially since i have and use them myself. My only point is that pc gaming can be had in a "living room tv + couch" way too, obviously not out of the box though

>>543822104
>Do you know
Yes, I do know.
>Do I want to put in the effort instead of something that works out of the box
No.

PC's entire niche is primarily mods and I doubt DQ7 is getting any mods worth a damn.

DQ characters who would be PC gamers

>>543787959
Moonbrooke barking all night at the moon

What do you guys think about Mature Quest? that game is huge and feels like a love letter to the Famicom games.

>>543821406
Best DQM is the first one

>mfw turned on my switch to play donkey kong and 1+2 appeared in my games list
I'm feeling it now, Spongeboy Me Bob

7 days until I+II remake.
Are you feeling it now, Mr Krabs?
Are you feeling it now, Mr Krabs?
Are you feeling it now, Mr Krabs?
Are you feeling it now, Mr Krabs?

>>543833829
Excellent

I think I'm actually pretty excited for II because I haven't played it yet and it just seems more mysterious to me. Probably because it's an early installment in the series and those tend to be weird (in a good way).

I'm gonna cast that on Gwaelin

Continuing the heroic bloodline is a sacred duty.

>>543857825
Ew, is that the hero’s mum? Suddenly I don’t feel as bad for her.

>>543831726
It’s the most impressive fan game I’ve ever played.
The fetishes weren’t my cup of tea but I wasn’t playing it for the porn.
Shame we never got a sequel, though I remember hearing the dev felt he accomplished everything he set out to do and thought a sequel was unnecessary.

>>543861432
I was surprised I could enjoy a mostly 8-bit looking game. The squeaks and emotes were pretty cute, but the game got too tedious and then easy once you out leveled the mobs.
I wasn't a fan of the corruption or cheating ending.

The jackpot subquest is fucking retarded even with the bunny girl trick and whoever thought of it deserves to die. I hate casinos in JRPGs so fucking much unless it's a game you can actually play like poker.

>>543863375
Just keep betting full chips on 12 and 14 and you'll eventually get it.

>>543863580
I already did it 30 times and even if I won a couple I haven't gotten a single jackpot.

>>543863845
You're more likely to win if you bet on everything.

>>543864046
That still doesn't guarantee jackpot.

>>543864248
Never said it was. But a higher win rate means greater chances to jackpot. That's pretty simple logic.

>>543863845
On my last playthrough of XI I hit the jackpot on my very first roulette spin it's random.

>>543863845
>30 times
Those are baby numbers, you'll probably hit it after 200 times.

https://www.rpgsite.net/news/18774-dragon-quest-i-ii-hd-2d-remake-screenshots-introduce-each-game-new-gameplay-features
>Cannock-chan joins early on as a guest and then leaves after her brother joins

>>543883791
She basically a little helper while Midenhall is solo since he don't have any magic to cure himself.

>>543883791
>>543887397
>Prince Cannock gets cursed by Hargon at Beran like in past remakes
>Gotta get an Ygg leaf to cure him, but instead of just one single tree tile on a tiny island, Yggdrasil is now a full dungeon
>Three Scions must be present to enter the tree (like the Wind Tower), so Princess Cannock has to be picked up again
>After getting the leaf and curing her brother, she stays on the party permanently
Makes the most sense to me.

So there was a video of the scions fighting a lumpy mage and Moonbroke was using Monster Pile On. If she happens to be the one who learns Wild Side and the Duplic Hat still exists, she might be the strongest dps in the game.

>>543893051
Possible, as far as the original DQ2 campaign goes, but odds are there's going to be more challenges after Malroth that'll be balanced against it.

Has anybody here played the DQ32 hack? The one that remakes DQ2 in the engine of the DQ3 remake for Super Famicom? I think that's somewhere in the OP's pastebin link for mods.

>>543893051
Won't be as broken as DQ3 with its 3x monster pile-on + wildside

>>543894694
Wild Side is like the 5th best attack in 3HD.
The meme is like Falcon Blade Persecutter > Cutting Edge > Call to Arms/Quadra Cast Weakness > Pile On (Full Power)

She's strong!

Why do they speak in olde English in I but not in II?

>>543912108
They're a couple hundred years apart, right? Surely the localizers would have died by then.

>>543912108
Its a Tantagel dialect

>>543920251
Uh-huh, and you call this spell Thordain when it's clearly spoken as Kazapple.

NSP when

>>543928434
5 hours

Will Mashima replace Toriyama as DQ character designer?

>>543935159
depends, how are his monsters and machines? I only know him from being discount Oda

>>543935650
I don't know, I'm not a Fairy Tail fan, but he did do a Monster Hunter manga. All his characters look like they're from a template, but I guess the same could be said for Toriyama.

How enjoyable is the experience of emulating DS ports of DQ? Like DQV? Thinking of giving it a go, but I'm kinda weirded out by the fact that there are two screens...

>>543937706
It's totally fine, I've played through them all like that. You get used to the stacked screens pretty quickly, and they only use the touch function for minor minigames so you don't have to worry about that.

>>543937706
pretty enjoyable given most emulators will let you increase the internal resolution (so that 3D stuff looks better). The two screens are more of a single long screen usually, but a few emulators let you customize that so that you can position them however you want, and as for using the touch screen you use the mouse or whatever else can work (like if you're using a device with a touch screen)
take a look at this for all the info you might need https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Nintendo_DS_emulators

>>543938984
>>543939028
Thank you! And was hazily aware that they can be repositioned and such. Glad to know its good :)

Also didn't know that you could use the mouse like the stylus :o

>>543940680
Think about it, Anon. How else would you do touch input when emulating a touch screen device? Not like you can touch your monitor.

>>543942665
I've seen hold trigger + move right stick

>halo 1 remake (again) before dragon quest 12
>halo on playstation before dragon quest 12

Dragon quest 12 was 1+2 all along

>>543942665
Just thought it would be unusable, especially when you mainly use a controller :p

>>543908605
Why's the text box and font look different than mine?

>>543943250
Masterpieces take time

rejection...

Everyone in VII looks 8 years old

>>543954259
How can you even tell from chibi sprites?
Rare Maribel fighting sprite.

6 days until I +II remake

X!!!

>>543944421
I'm playing offrine.

We are almost there, Dragon Questers.

>>544012798
My genes are so weak...

>>543954259
they all are

>>543982562
Ah, that makes sense.
Is the offline translation actually any good? I mean, playing the MMO version is machine translated so I guess it can't be much worse than that.

>>544030513
The main storyline of the MMO has been translated and edited by humans at least. The NPCs are MTL I believe because those text files are server side. If you know enough Japanese to read the npc dialogue, you actually don’t need MTL at all.

>>544030513
From what I understand the dude(s?) who worked on offline's translation got a lot from the online translation's team. As far as actual quality goes, it's wildly inconsistent. Important scenes are hand-written and generally well done, but a lot of unimportant stuff is left machine translated. Some characters or locations will have like 3 or 4 different names you'll see in the space of a couple minutes.

>>544038091
Wow, that MTL is rougher than even the worst that I've seen in online.

>>544044316
One would think the MTL has improved with AI shit getting better but I haven't played the MMO in 2 years.

I have no idea what I'm customizing a monster for and what it will be used for but they all look cool as hell and I'm already on board with this game

>>544048862
me on the left

>>543782815
Builders 3 fucking WHEN

dragon questin'

>>544065507
In 5 days

>>544071678
I feel like this sometimes.

MATT DAMON

the Fragment Acquirers Guild

>>544082901
In order to restore the world there once was, we need to turn to the FAG.

DQX

>>544082176
And Orgodemir sits in his lair singing about how he's so lonely.

What are your thoughts on the HD Remakes compared to the originals?

>>544109239
I think they're great. 8 bit and 16 bit games don't look great on a high resolution display and HD-2D looks to be the best visual successor to top down 2d games. The QOL of bag room is nice too

>>544109239
The voice acting feels very out-of-place when the characters don't even animate when they speak.

we FF4 now

>>544112040
f-five niggas in a row?!

>>544109239
Speaking just for 3, obviously:
>Visuals are 75% great to 25% wonky
>Towns and dungeons look especially good, tons of variety, maybe the best the series has done in that department
>Battle system additions/changes almost all positive, difficulty changes a mixed bag
>Voice acting is decent but so sparse it's pointless, new story scenes just feel weird
>Monster collecting is cute but the board game was better
As remakes go it's a positive step compared to something like 7 on 3DS, and it's infinitely better than the bad phone port you could get on Switch before this, but it's still a mixed bag. I'm cautiously optimistic for 1&2.

>>544112416
AND goblin pantsu. This game has it all.

chubby green dwarf girl sexo

Are you excited more for 1 or 2? I'm kinda looking forward to DQ1 more cause the solo aspect makes you use abilities that are normally useless.

>>544120616
Fancy Footwork all day every day

>>544120757
>Open up every boss with fancy footwork

>>544120616
It's about equal for me. I like DQ1 a lot more to begin with, but I'm more excited for the additions to DQ2.

>>543935159
Na. They are already using legacy helpers or people trained in the style. A lot of people know the design style so somebody like that will end up being picked up.

Did a "speedrun" of dq1 today.
4 hours of calling armored knights and red dragons niggers trying to beat the game at level 18.
Clocked in at 10 and a half hours. Like 20 Charlock dives. Died and lost half of my silver shield money because I didn't save before going to Cantlin.
Pretty fun, hated it, would do it again. I could have been like level 24 with 4 hours of grinding instead of dives.

>>543937706
I had fun wih them like 10 years ago so you should have all the tools you need by now and a far more advanced emulator.

>>544132375
The superior remake is out in 4 days why bother

>>544120616
both, 1 for what you said but 2 for the stuff they added on it

>>544120616
DQ2, easily. My introduction to Dragon Quest was the GBC release of 1&2, and 2 in particular was my favored game for how it just felt so chill. Just me and two pals against the world with almost no direction to follow.

I'm gonna quest Gwaelin.

>Gravid request
Kek

>>544162217
Thou must make more? Verily.

I just cannot get into DQIX no matter how many times I try. I get to the Wight Knight part and just lose all interest. I think it's the party members I hate not having real party members. And I know it was a thing in DQ3 but I also don't like DQ3.

>>544169771
Literally me. Ix is simply bad

>>544169771
>>544171927
you WIRR play IX remake anyway!!

>Haven't visited Woodus in half a decade
>Forum is dead
>Everyone is on Discord
>Two or three familiar faces
>Everyone else is the classic eternally online discord people
What the fuck happened? I know it's discord but I though Woodus being majority Boomers would deter them. How'd they even find it?

>>544169771
Do you have anyone to play it with?

>>544182085
it's been like this forever
every smaller forum was eventually turned into a discord server that then gets shared around everywhere
instead of having multiple communities online that all have their own history, culture, inside jokes and stuff, everything turned into some amorphous blob with twitch emotes

also affected 4chan, you just have to look at /v/ or the redditblob subhumans that post here

>>544182085
The mistake they made was allowing people to make their own invites. Initially the forum was the only place that had the invite and even then they should have made that forum only appear for registered members.
>>544184143
>multiple communities online that all have their own history, culture, inside jokes and stuff, everything turned into some amorphous blob with twitch emotes

Damn shame too. The forum was very cozy and was one of the best places for DQ discussions. Did you two try hanging around the discord? I'm not that old but I feel ancient compared to some of the people there and they mostly just talk about nonsense.

I'm sad we never got Heroes 3 and Builders 3.

>>544185169
>Did you two try hanging around the discord?
nah, besides 4chan i was active in lots of communities in the early 2000s, from dq, to seiken, to dbz fangames, but i just left when those forums closed down
older forums where about longer discussions, threads would last weeks, if not months, now everything's just about who's online right now, and that pretty much kills any sort of discussion
then there's also the fact that i don't have anything in common with any of these "people"
i will just stay on 4chan, it's the only thing from the old internet that's left and once it shuts down i will just be offline i guess

Of all forums to succumb to this, Woodus makes me the saddest.

>>544169771
DQ9 basically does not start until when you beat Alltrades.

DQ9 never actually feels like it starts

>>544189106
>>544189839
The actual storyline with Corvus is just filler. DQ9 is all about the post-game grind.

what was that metal slime dungeon called again? Kintsujin, Netori,Something ruby idk It was some Japanese name.

>>544193056
Ruby Path of Doom, going by how DQ11 immortalized it.

>>544193056
The Masayuki map.

>>544193441
He means the nickname it got, named after the player who first found it. But it is a Ruby Path of Doom.

Ruby Path of Doom Level 87, to be precise.

>>544193056
>Netori
Anon...I

4 days until I +II remake.
Last chance, lads.

>>544195829
Last chance for what?

>>544193925
Nettori, maybe?

>>544196167
To feel it coming

>>544196402
Netero?

>>544169771
9 is pretty poorly paced and the content is poorly spread. also the story sucks

>>544141429
It was interesting.
"Speedrunning" dq1 turns it into a resource management game.
Plus I found a really cool grind from level 6 to 8 when you do dives into the dark cave because there is a chest that has over 100 gold that refills when you leave.
Plus you can get lucky and get the cursed necklace which sells for 1300 or so.
I was only frustrated because I tried to beat it at level 18. You only have a 43% chance to run from armored knights and red dragons.
At level 19, 20, 21 and beyond it becomes waaaay easier to beat thr game. And it's only a 15 minute grind until level 19.
So while it took me longer to do it the speedrun way a casual run can just grind until level 20 and have a better time.

Probably a dumb question but how does 3hd2d compare to the original? Is it the definitive edition?
I really like the NES version and I just picked up the physical cart.

>>544199292
>Is it the definitive edition?
no, as in "it doesn't have literally everything every previous version of the game had". You can see it as an alternative choice alongside playing the SNES version or the GBC version, with obviously better graphics but content wise it added something while also removing something, doesn't really make any of those versions actually "obsolete"

any updates on that dqg game?

>>544112040
This way looks so cute

>>544195829
I've been feeling it. Downloaded DQ3 in preparation.

>>544214658
Nice

>>544196673
I still miss him...

Alright, I said I was going to do the trilogy in the proper order, but I finished Pokemon Z-A and now I'm itching for something slow and calming like DQ. I figure I'll start with 3, but only going as far as beating Baramos before starting 1 so as to maintain some of the original surprise.

>>544222176
I mean 1+2 releases in just a few days if you can wait a bit

>>544223476
I thought about that, but I'm also a little impatient to try a DQ3 idea I had: juggling one of every "character" with no reclassing (barring Gadabout -> Sage) so I can try to emulate 11's style.

I did drop 3R for some reason, but I didn't get too far. Just reached the pyramid. I'll get back to it after I beat 1 and 2.

>>544222176
>>544224628
I'm skeptical of Horii's "play 3 first" philosophy for these remakes but if you've actually played them all before you might as well do it that way and just play 3 all the way through. Don't expect too much, but there are a couple of additions late in nu-3 that are setups for nu-1&2 that might be less interesting the other way around.

>>544225368
I'm aware of the teases regarding Hargon. To me, it feels like he wants to rewrite 2's ending to be a bigger finale for the Erdrick story, but I still feel like playing 3 before at least 1 spoils a lot of the surprise connections between them. Saving the Alefgard part of 3 for after 1 is my compromise.

>>544120616
After being obsessed with 1 for the last year, 1.
But I do believe 2 was undercooked originally so a bangup update to that game will be great.
It had all the makings of being nearly as good as 3, they just needed to give cannok like 20% more fucking hp and tone the enemies better. Once you cross the first tunnel into moonbrooke, it's hell until you can breeze through it, no middle ground.

>>544224628
https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonquest3remake/mods/67
If you're gonna do that, this mod will probably make things a lot smoother. There's also a mod that lets you dumpster your Yuusha if you'd like.

>>544233115
I picked Switch 2 for the trilogy, so I'll make do somehow. Thanks for the offer, though.

Can we all agree that Pep is a fucking shit mechanic?

>>544236081
I like it a lot. It's way better than tension

>>544236939
This

>>544236081
We cannot.

>>544237162
>>544236939
It's fucking shit.
>lol defend for 20 turns against a weak enemy before fighting a boss so the whole party is pepped up
>grind in the casino and gold until every character is filled with Pop/Pip Peps
Just dumb bullshit locking important character moves behind something you either can't control or is tedious and braindead to control.

>>544237446
It's not like pep moves are essential to beat bosses and it procs pretty often. I don't think I ever used a pep item even in the postgame on stronger monsters.
The system in X Offline looks like it might be the best of both worlds, but an anon who actually played that game would have to speak to that.

>>544237957
There are way too many "beat X enemy with Y Pep move" quest. And most Pep moves are just fine, but Magic Burst something other from Veronica and Serena is the strongest one in the game.

DQX is fun. I'm in version 3. It's so fun seeing how broken the English is on anything that's not the main questline. It's cute.
It's hard to do some stuff though like bag organization. Anlucia is my wife, but then she cucked me with a fucking horse. Now Estella is my wife

>>544237446
You're treating it like tension when it's meant to be more of an opportunistic strike. And how much the meter charges depends mostly on damage taken, so you're going to see it happen more often during boss battles anyway.

>>544238278
Executioner can miss.

>>544238131
>There are way too many "beat X enemy with Y Pep move" quest.
Absolutely, but that's an issue with XI's sidequests more than it is with pep.

>>544238586
Ok?

>>544238813
It makes the Golden Giants fight a pain if you don't use Pip Peps.

>>544239204
Like >>544238617 said, that's more an issue with sidequests than pep.

>>544239402
I wouldn't call it a sidequest even if it isn't mandatory because Hendrick is barely half a character without Forebearance.

>>544169771
What's funny is that if you beat DQIX, then you can finally unlock some actual party members.

I just think double/triple techs are neat and if they absolutely have to re-remake more character-focused games like IV and especially V it would be crazy not to include them somehow.

>>544239204
They hit hard so you get pepped up faster

>>544238617
They're still better than DQ9's sidequests. Some of those were especially absurd.

>>544222176
>>544226021
If you already know the "twist" then what exactly are you trying to avoid being spoiled on? The entire thing relies on the idea that you don't know that its actually a prequel.

>>544274186
The principle of the thing.

>>544274241
The "principle" is that you play games in release order. The remakes are released and written under the assumption that players are approaching it as 3/1/2. This is especially true when you consider how heavy handed they've been getting in foreshadowing stuff in the last third of the game.
If you want the "classic" experience, then you play the older releases and do it in the 1/2/3 order.

>>544274241
The remake trilogy was specifically developed with 3 being the first entry with the creator's guidance.

>>544237446
You don't have to do either of those things, the whole point is to randomly have the opportunity to do a big flashy special move once in a while, same as the coup de grace abilities in IX or the specials in X.

Lemme guess, you hate FFIX trance too, huh?

>>544236081
Wouldn't call it shit, but it's just meh. Tension, like in DQX, is my favorite. In general, I prefer mechanics I can control rather than 'hope this hidden meter is filled when I need it' type of shit.

Is there a romance system in 11? I just got Veronica and don't know if I should try and flirt with the loli, her little sister or Jade

>>544282572
No. There is a post-game reward that lets you choose any party member (or the useless childhood friend, who was the only choice in the original release) to be your life partner, but it doesn't really amount to much beyond a bonus cutscene and you can change your pick at anytime.

>>544282887
Childhood friend was cute... I'd have been happy to ditch Serena for her. I've only known Serena for ten minutes and already she's boring the shit out of me.

No one tells him

>>544279248
>Tension, like in DQX, is my favorite
Isn't tension basically exclusive to Martial Artist and I guess whatever advanced class might have a Psyche Up equivalent?

Is there really an audience for DQ1-2 to be remade in 2d yet again? I can understand the appeal for DQ3. But since DQ3 came out already what's the point of remaking the first two in 2d again when it's more or less the same games anyway? Genuinely don't get it. I mean I guess they know what they're doing and people will buy them nonetheless. But that's what I don't really understand

>>544286759
I believe I read Horii specifically demanded it.

>>544286759
Because past 1 and 2 remakes have done nothing to actually improve on them, so they're long overdue.

>>544237957
I like Offline's system a lot. It builds up over time/when you get hit. Clap Trap and Psyche Up fill it up, too. You can spend portions of it for super moves, or wait until it's full to get a stat boost. When it's full, the super moves are free until the full tension wears off after 3 turns or so.

>>544289432
>pic
Funny, I actually have a screenshot of that exact same scene in Online.

Posting content of DQ2's 2nd staff roll is prohibited until November 29

https://x.com/famitsu/status/1982781918212206789

>>544293597
Gotta love how they spoiled that there's even two staff roles (plus more???) themselves lol.
So is the original ending only going to be 1/3rd of the way through the game now? Kinda funny to think that they shortened VII, but have tripled the length of II.

>>544293597
>>544294132
Suddenly, my random idea that DQ2 will send the Scions back to the DQ3 world has more possibility than I thought.

Scenario Writer: Emil Pagliarulo

>>544289189
sure but do we really need a remake for every game in existence especially in this specific case where early dq games are so similar in their gameplay, graphics, and story (or rather lack of)?

>>544286759
They're tying the trilogy together better, the originals weren't completely consistent across the games like they will be now.

>>544296975
Its tradition to have a new version of 1-3 at some point in every decade. We'll see it again in the 2030s

3 days.

>>544296975
Yes.
*vrooms away *

>>544294132
>but have tripled the length of II

It's a full price game, I would hope so
The originals were very short

>>544304829
We deserve her as a new playable character

I'd probably tolerate 7 more if they added more npc models and put more music in. Every town being samefaces spazzing out over quests of the week with the same goddamn village theme looping no matter where you go was exhausting. You need a special kind of autism to tolerate the game or the 3ds remake

>>544308375
She's not a fighter she has the hero carry her all the way to Tantegel without walking a single step.

>>544309050
I got more annoyed at the stone slab alter, the harp was fucking grating after a while

Why are the male character options in 11 shit...? Erick is alright until he starts talking with that inconsistent accent, Sylvando is a raging faggot, and I don't care how many old men Dragon Quest throws at me I'm not using a boomer. The girls are kino but the guys other than Erick genuinely embarrass me

>>544316673
Veronica should have been a short stack post-transformation
Making her a literal child was dumb

>>544317101
I sorta like it for her juxtaposition with Serena desu.

>>544316673
You should be embarrassed by Sylvando, given he's more of a man than you'll ever be with that attitude.

>>544316673
Jade has the personality of a door

>>544314567
She puts her stupid coffin dwelling brother to shame. Give us our fourth cousin!!

>>544317602
Is he actually good? He does come across as so painfully flamboyant...

>>544318528
I mean, where are you at in the game?
Because I, and a lot of other people, really like him because he's just a genuinely good and caring person. He's loud and flamboyant but he cares the most about others in the whole group, and knows when to reel it back when needed.

>>544319285
Still on my way to the sand slayer. I'll admit he's winning me over just a bit. Probably not enough to have him in my main party but still fun

>>544318528
>>544320149
>Probably not enough to have him in my main party but still fun
Even if you don't like him, he's extremely useful as a party member if you go straight for the Hustle Dance skill panel and focus on charm-boosting gear. He'll be the party's best healer until most of the way through the game, and still pretty useful even very late.

>>544320149
Oh then yeah you got lots more to see from him.
Even just his story in Gallopolis is basically about him helping out a coward just because he can, and it plays into his overall story later on.
And yeah, what the other anon said. As a party member he's very useful and can fulfill multiple roles very well.

>>544318330
I don’t like the spunky tomboy princess archetype.
Princesses should be sweet and demure like Moonbrooke.

>>544321850
Dogfucker-hime is a poor example.

>>544321850
>Kyril wants to know your location

>>544317225
I mean, they would still have their juxtaposition

Serena is such a Sylvando groupie lol

Starting DQ3 HD2D at last and I now remember why it doesn't click with me as well as other Dragon Quests: having to make my own party members. At least I can alter their looks some so they're not all constant clones.

Anyway, what's the best general personality picks for each class (excluding the clear favorite in Vamp)?

>>544319285
>>544317602
The fact that Sylando was physically a giga nigga but also the team auntie was such a good character design combo

Do we love purple or blonde Moonbrooke more?
Also I'm lowkey really hoping we get some cute scenes of her having doggy flashbacks in the remake. My favourite DQ art is when she's giving off retriever energy

>we
You like what you like.

>>544327430
With any luck, she'll get an item that lets her switch hair colors freely.

>>544327430
I prefer blonde, but with another blonde-ish girl in the party it makes sense to go with purple. I'm glad they're leaning into the dog stuff, it's cute.

>>544327605
Tbh a lot of the Dragon Quest characterisation is headcanon. I like imagining fun little scenarios happening between the cast as they go on their journey. It's part of why I really like 3 and 9 having an actual party creator. It lets you larp a little.

I want Serena to have my retarded babies

>>544330379
I'd prefer Gemma.

Guys I can't wait for DQ 1+2 im gonna pull some late nighters on 3hd remake for the next few days

>>544299693
its happening!!1

"You heartless monster!!" Veronica is funny XD I had her in the pigsuit too so she looked extra ridiculous

What’s the nature of Sylvando and Dave’s relationship? I won’t make a commitment to Sylv is he’s buggering beefcakes on the side.

>>544327430
i prefer purple by a lot.

>>544327430
Purple is cute and canon, bl*nde is an abomination.

>>544330379
Granted.

>>544327430
Moonbroke is purple. Blondie is lady Peronel

Whilst I've enjoyed the game far more after the slow beginning I still find 11's pacing really off... it feels like every game in the series seems to have some pacing issues. 4 resets you every couple of hours, 5 drags at the second gen, 7 is a fucking nightmare, and I really didn't like the tutorial sections and dungeons of early 11.
The only game I've played where I was kinda comfy throughout was 9. You had your simple acts and collectables, towns rarely last more than an hour, the story never lost momentum. The only bits I remembered getting held up at was metal slime farming for skills which was more on my poor planning than the games fault
I don't know how 1 and 2 will feel. I hear they're shorter and more replayable though.

>>544333046
>gameplay after the second credits
Damn they're going all out

>>544347214
The real question is what we're going to get between the first and second credits.

>>544323753
Vamp, Wit, Bodybuilder and Lucky Devil.
If you pick M Hero, go for Wit and change over to Vamp via the event later on.

I hope they fix game once you het the boat since that was the worst part of 2 for me
The Early game and Late game were amazing

>>544345370
fully agree. the best you can do is keep a savefile on recruiting mcryan and another after the strand. that way on replays you can enjoy a full party and exploration right away.
9 and 3 do have impecable pacing, combat, and economy.

>>544323753
I'll do this by class

Hero: Paragon is better than Vamp for the Majority of the game, Vamp only takes over after you start dealing most of your damage with KaZap and regularly acting as a healer in boss fights

Virtually all non-heroes: Bat out of Hell should be the default 'idk what to use' doesn't have negative stats and ensures your Mage/Sages get off the important AoE spells before randoms and makes traveling around a smoother experience

Healer: Wit or Tough Cookie - don't need as much scaling but not dying is a great perk for healers

The Melee: Paragon(usually by means of the accessory as many classes can't start as Paragon so Tough Cookie or in some cases Bat will have to do for the start) Whichever class they end up as they should pass through Merchant to learn Muster(which stacks with Oomph) Especially Strong with an ex-theif (learn persecutter)

Gadabouts can start Vamp and it's honestly not bad for Sage considering the main draw of Gadabout -> Sage is that you can make it into anything for the post game so no stats get wasted

Man, I hope I can endure DQ1's battles. I really don't like the orchestral version of the battle theme in a video game setting.

>>544318528
elfondo is a zesty one
he bats for the other team
gardens uphill
knows the difference between curtains and drapes
swings the other way
wishes he was a she slime

>>544363742
It'll probably have the symphonic arrangement to swap to if it does your head in.

>>544383026
I love this slutty ganguro more than you could ever believe!

>>544388837
Thanks Dawnposter

>>544353439
More like
Bodybuilder/Tough Cookie - Melee
Wit/Vamp - Magic
Lucky Devil - Gadabout via Hen's Tooth to max out their Luck and then you change over to Vamp when you go Sage.

Luck is not a dump stat in HD because it modifies phys ranges, crit rates and ailment success/resistance. A Mage/Sage with very high luck is quite potent since they can outspeed and use Snooze/Fuddle to cripple encounters/set up for a Falcon Blade Persecutter.
Hero's magic is quite solid long before Kazap/Omniheal, since you get a bunch of key spells around the same time as your primary mages and Zap line is a common weakness. Phys is mostly just for filler boomerang chip and a couple elemental slashes if you cant slam them with a spell (not common)

What's your favourite DQ3 party?

>>544398113
For story, one of every class. For post-game, Hero, Warrior/Martial Artist mix, Gadabout/Sage, and Thief/Merchant mix. I haven't yet tried the Monster Masher/Master/Wrangler/whatever they wanna call it.

>>544398113
Don't have one. That said, one of my best playthroughs was when I emulated a YuYu Hakushou team. Shit was cash.

>>544391548
Luck is the only stat that has an accessory that gives a giga-fucking-enormous +50 - This ostensibly makes it's Growth one of the less important growths when comparing personality as a deficiency is more readily fixed than anything else.

To say Phys is "just" for Boomerang chip is questionable. Boomerangs are king of the random encounter up until your party learns Boom and Kacrack 23-25(with a suppose a notable exception for a slightly over leveled Hero sometimes having Sizzle at 18 just in time to burn several mummies in the pyramid) - and unless your endgame plan is to get both DuplicHats and wizard down bosses that way you're likely already using Sap/Oomph for the Created Physical hitter at which point the Elemental Slashes with a reasonable weapon will outperform appropriate level spells for everything from Khandar to Troll, with ghostbusters and Garbs being the only Overworld bosses magic is particularly superior

Thank you for attending my Ted Talk

>>544402812
Yes, its primarily for boomerang chip because a lot of the stronger vocations can either use boomerangs or have their own form of AoE like Bang/Stone Throw/Boulder Toss etc.
You dont need particularly high strength on Hero because they made AoE very easy to access in HD.

Hero gets Zap/Zapple to delete key targets and Sizzle/Boom/Kasizz/Kazap all at key points to assist your mage/sage's sweeping. Then as you said, one Kacrack shows up around the orb quest, boomerangs are on the backburner outside metals. Its also worth noting that magic on a whole is stronger as of August 2025 due to better scaling, so spellcasters are much more competitive in the long term. This does come at a cost of ailment infliction being harder on Draconian, so you really do need all the luck you can get on your Gadabout > Sage.

Furthermore, if you're talking long term planning, Hero's offense is the least relevant vs bosses. No Cutting Edge/Falcon Blade + Persecutter/Wild Side/Pile On/Duplic Hat/etc.

On the note of Luck, yes, even with the Hen's Tooth/Shoes, you still dont want to penalize it too hard due to mechanical quirks. Agility is easier to fix since you get like 2 Meteorite Bracers, 4 Mercury Bandanas AND Wild Side boosts speed. Its also wise to stagger your team's speed tiers so that your Egg On bot can go before your main physical character for better turn efficiency. Hero lacks access to the big stuff even with Falcon Blade and Auroral Helm, so he tends to end up being an Omniheal/Kazap/Orochi Sword bot by the end.

>>544405674
Btw, everything from Khandar to Troll is just wrong. Multiple bosses have weaknesses that magic can also exploit. Phys only really cleanly wins on sole wind weak enemies.

>>544407150
Does it really matter outside of Draconian difficulty, when you have to know what you're throwing or get wrecked?

>>544398113
M Hero
F Warrior
F Priest
M Mage
That's the only team I've ever used, so I guess that one.

Why do DQ villains suck? The only one people remember is the NTR porn horse from DQV.

>Ladja and motherfucking Psaro aren't memorable

Anyway, we need a DQ variant of this. Any ideas?

>>544417568
Best I can think of it a Cannibox in place of the fish.

>>544417568
>>544419791
Maybe the hook is a Cannibox and the fish is someone capable of casting Peep?

>DQHD coming out soon
>schizos show up to armed and ready to call it a flop

>>544421436
We can work with this.

>>544422326
T'is art bait.

>>544422326
>Эй, пpинцecca, этo oпpeдeлeннo пpимaнкa.

Is it too much to hope that when 1&2 come out, 3 will get an update to backport some of the new revisions (like disabling the free healing on level up)? Probably. I know there's mods for PC, but having an official version is always nice.

>>544431037
Unlikely, but it would be nice. Pipe dream is diagonal overworld sprites.

>>544428619
I think it might be better to just leave it in color and put a textbox from the NES games in the bottom left corner that says its bait.
I'd do it myself but I'm not home at the moment, and won't be for another 2 hours.

>>544421909
You're on 4chan, everyone here centers their personality around negativity and things they hate.

Make a choice for me

1. Make a new DQX character
2. Play through v6 on my old DQX character
3. play DQIX
4. Play the 3DS remake of DQM2
5. Play DQXI

>>544428619
I like it.

>>544437053
you rolled a 3 so play ix

>>544416764
Because every town has a punch clock villain with as much attention as the big bads do. They often have no personality outside of being evil for the sake of being evil, almost to a fault. I also personally found that even the ones written with a personality like 7's and 9's were kinda underwhelming.
The thing is that Final Fantasy also has villains that are evil for the sake of being evil but their designs are so striking that I will remember them. Exdeath comes to mind as a big bad who generally is as shallow and has as much screentime as a DQ villain... Dude is built like a fucking boss. Then you get to the last phase which is a cascade of nightmarish demons and he's a difficult fight too. This is debatably one of the least fleshed out Final Fantasy bosses and he puts the DQ lineup to shame.

>>544432726
Gave it my own attempt and decided to move the textbox under the image.

>>544450080
Made the text a little bigger.

>>544450080
>>544451620
It would be more authentic if the dialogue started with an asterisk.

>>544452440
I looked up gameplay of DW4 for reference when making the text box and saw no asterisk at the start. I think that was only a thing in 1 and 2?

>>544438998
Very kind of (You)

>>544451620
Cool stuff, anon

>>544452440
Asterisks are for nameless NPCs.

Does anyone have Dragon Quest I-II already on switch?

Dragon Quest Minus One

>>544456249
I'm playing it right now.

>>544459572
Awwwww my GOD.

I'm a little surprised it hasn't leaked yet.

RIP Mutsumi Inomata

>>544461041
No. Really?!

>>544461041
Is this the chrono cross guy?

>>544461041
>

>>544462902
Tales of. Inomata was a woman.

>>544460554
Horii's no doubt doing all he can to make sure NOBODY spoils the surprises one second sooner than he decrees.

You know, I'm starting to get the impression that 1&2 were the actual target games this whole time.
Think about it. 3 already had it's major content expansion decades ago on SNES, and HD-2D doesn't really add much more to that. 1 and 2 never got anything like that until now. It almost feels as if the 3 remake was just practice for 1&2, rather than the "well all that work can be re-used, may as well do them too" scenario that most people seem to be thinking.

>>544471029
>3 already had it's major content expansion decades ago on SNES
And again on GBC. All HD2D did was replace the monster medal collecting with actually collecting monsters to get into the second bonus dungeon.

>>544471291
GBC is my favorite version, but I'd at least give HD-2D the credit that Monster Wrangler, abilities and the new bosses are a more substantial addition than GBC's medals.

>>544459572
>*casts Kathwack*

I struggle so much with gbc games... I'm only just old enough to where the visuals are on the edge of unbearable for me

>>544483651
I understand this attitude since I've felt this way about older hardware too, but I have no special advice for getting over it except to just get over it.
Maybe try the GBC Zelda games if you like that series at all. They look great and are still really fun to play.

It's almost Halloween...you know what that means!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tdyU_gW6WE

23 hours to go questers

Questin' makes me feel good

how long until leaks

>>544488450
22 hours

How long is Dq11? really dumb question but do I have any chance of beating the game before 2hd comes out? I've just got the boat

>>544500457
It's at least 100 hours, more like 160 for 100%.

Are DQ I & II HD remakes going to be short?

I remember playing the first Final Fantasy game and I finished it in 8 hours or so an Final Fantasy II took me ~12 hours to beat.

>>544506895
The original DQ is usually about 10 hours, could be longer though for the HD version.
DQII is seemingly tripled in length since they spoiled that there are multiple credits rolls and still more game after the 2nd credits, so I'm guessing its gonna be like 50 hours.

Any aussies/ asians already playing ?

>>544510035
>New DQ2 is now almost as long as DQ11
I definitely second >>544471029 on the idea that Horii really REALLY wanted to expand on DQ2 from the get-go.

>>544316673
Thats because you've been playing with the shitty eng dub where americans thinks you cant make an interesting character without some quirky accent, play it in jap it is much more pleasant to the ears and the tone they have is consistent with the dialogue.

Veronica dub was so terrible, its like she had no idea how she was supposed to act

>>544515903
Better still, mute the voices altogether.

>>544516295
Good point, original had no voice and they had the good idea to use sound design so that we could feel the texts

>>544515328
Call me when they use the intended ending with Cannock-chan as the basis for act 3

>>544517313
They probably will, though it'll obviously be a fake-out to set up for what comes after Malroth.

Has there been any mention/indication of Party Chat for DQ2? Always been one of my favorite features, and it’s the only one of 1-3 it would really apply to.

>>544519837
Don't know about party chat but the Cannocks and Moonbrooke are voiced now

>>544506895
Supposedly a 100% run of will take about 15 hours for I and 40 hours for II

DQ but genshin clone for pc and smartphones

So do we know what time 1&2 is unlocked for playing?

>>544515903
I appreciate that there's so many different accents and that everyone has such defined personality. It's more of seeing it like a stage drama to me.

>>544527846
"Eventually", apparently.

Weekends at the Cannocks!

>>544534583
>Prince Midenhall and the ladies have to puppeteer Prince Cannock's dead body around the castle and make everybody think he's still alive

If Cannock survived the final boss battle you didn't beat the game

>>544527846
>>544533709
Probably noon EST.
If not then, 3pm EST.
If not then, SE fucked up the launch.

>>544483651
im 24 and can play atari 2600 games. just be better.

>>544483651
you say that but i think GBC 1, 2 and 3 look very nice, like they have a very pleasant feel
also, one advice would be to try ctr filters, games back then were made with those in mind, if you're on pc i recommend looking up shaderglass (it's basically just a see through window that applies a filter from it's fuckhuge catalog to whatever it's underneath) and then try filters until you find something you like, even if it's not "accurate"

>>544537474
Wow, that's pretty late in the day

>>544539947
12 EST is typical for a lot of AAA releases, since that's a generalized time when the latest people in the day will be awake, and when the majority of physical buyers will have gotten their game.

>>544540486
Huh. I did not know that, because I haven't been a digital buyer until recently. Good to know.

>>544540620
It's not universal, but it's a general rule of thumb.
Konami, for example, releases all of their games at midnight.

Seems like it will be available at midnight given the countdown.

54 hours in ans I just saved Loomin (didn't kill Chibi this time) and Maribel has left. This is probably not a bad stopping point to leave VII for a couple months while I play I&II HD, yeah?

I'm feeling it, spongebob. What about (You)?

Famitsu is claiming DQII to be around 35-40 hours. I to be 10-15 hours. Gave 1&2 a 34/40
Source: https://ryokutya2089.com/archives/92274

>1 Cannot be cleared without helping the princess
Aw.
https://ryokutya2089.com/archives/92268

torrent out on rutracker

>>544546832
aw shiet

>>544546679
No time paradoxes allowed this time, it seems.

>>544546679
>We kept the original game’s speed for Ramia and the ship because we wanted them to move gracefully in time with the music.
>These days there are many more things to play, and a lot of players prefer to get ahead quickly.
>The idea to include Princess Samaltoria was Hayasaka’s suggestion.
>Estimated playtime for DQ1: 10–15 hours; with thorough play it can exceed 20 hours.
>DQ2 is expected to be 30–40 hours; with deep play it could exceed 50 hours.
>That particular choice in DQ1 — even if you pick it — can be recovered from, just like in the Super Famicom version.
>You can’t finish the game without rescuing the princess.
Horii: “The red in the Red Loto equipment is — _____, right?”
Hayasaka: “That’s enough! (laughs)”
> It’s a secret for now, but the logo has meaning.
>As for post-clear content you can enjoy: it’s hard to describe, but there definitely is content like that.
>Please be sure to watch the ending.
>If you play through DQ2 to the end, you might understand what we meant by wanting to make use of elements from XI.
>It’s true that this new Loto trilogy contains some surprising developments.
>I think players will be shocked, saying “I can’t believe that happens.”
>With DQ1 & DQ2, the Loto trilogy can be nicely concluded.
>The destructive power of the Zaraki spell has been adjusted, but it hasn’t been removed entirely (sweat).
>Given that DQ1 is almost a solo party game, this amount of content feels about right.

>>544550193
>That particular choice in DQ1 — even if you pick it — can be recovered from, just like in the Super Famicom version
So saying Yes to Dragonlord's rigged deal is again an "all a dream" reset to Rimuldar and not a Game Over?

>>544550193
>>If you play through DQ2 to the end, you might understand what we meant by wanting to make use of elements from XI.
Ereburn bros?

Amber was behind it all.

THE GORRILLAS
AHHHHHHHHHHHH

Holy moly, three typos in one text box!

>DQ is older than FF
>DQ is waiting for XII while FF is waiting XVII
What happened around the PS1-PS2 era for the amount of main DQ games to slow down? Both series have multiple teams so I can only assume things.

>>544559438
Without getting into the factors around DQ, consider that FF hitting international megasuccess with 7 meant there was an incentive to get entries in that series out quickly, and since it was developed internally (unlike DQ) the suits could apply more pressure to make that happen.

>>544559438
Series basically ended for all intents and purposes, so releases could relax.
DQVII was basically the ultimate DQ game and also had a lot of dev hell.
Then DQVIII was made to address some critiques of VII and create a fully 3D DQ.
DQIX was moreso a proto for the multiplayer DQ idea, which became...
DQX, which was an MMORPG.

And XI was an anniversary game.

Whereas with FF, FFVII-X were the start of SE realizing they should be pushing harder. When Sakaguchi left, they did just that, but ironically, FF only slowed down since XII.
>XI
Experimental MMORPG with the new tech.
>XII
More 'traditional' title.
>XIII
An attempt to do a compilation style series (back when Compilation of VII was in its infancy).
>XIV
Announced before XIII was even out, it was an attempt at the modern MMO style to an extent.
>XV
Remnants of the failure of XIII, designed to reinvigorate the series.
>XVI
Designed to reinvigorate the series.
>XVII
...designed to reinvigorate the series...

>>544559438
Dragon Quest has more remakes

>>544559438
One thing that distinguishes DQ from FF, and other series as well, is the fact that there really isn't a dedicated developer. DQ has gone through at least three different developers before being developed internally by SE with 10 and onwards. This means being far less likely to retain key staff between releases, unlike Square in the 80s and 90s who developed everything by themselves and were more likely to retain people, letting them more easily iterate on games and push out frequent releases.
DQ7 was where things slowed down tremendously. It had been delayed numerous times, the most out of any DQ game at that point, due to various factors like switching from the N64 to PS1, and Heartbeat, while they exceeded at 2D game development, struggled with 3D and the newer hardware. This caused Horii to drop Heartbeat once development on the DQ4 PS1 remake finished and he landed on Level 5, who were vastly more apt with 3D development.
The series would see another slow down with DQ9 which they originally made as an ARPG that got scrapped in favor of going back to turn based gameplay.

Metacritic is up it has a respectable 85
https://www.metacritic.com/game/dragon-quest-i-and-ii-hd-2d-remake/

My internet sucks, I wanna preload

Lads, I've got my hands on the big twist at the end of IImake. Beware, Hargon will have friends

>>544558269
Melvin's just busy thinking about puff-puff.

>>544567360
It's only 16gb

>>544568284
My internet really sucks

>>544568026
I was thinking maybe he downed a full bottle while I was talking to my deadbeat uncle in the pub.

>>544541986
I'm ready.

I bought the DQ3 remake but refuse to play it until I play the DQ1+2 remakes

I'll only be able to dragon quest at Friday noon. Sucks to be a proper and productive member of society.

Is there really a new playable character in 2 now?

>>544584678
Careful, those words may get you Whack'd around here

>>544585058
Yeah, but she's like a DQ3 Gadabout in that she'll waste a lot of turns doing nothing to help, at least off the beginning.

>Cannock-chan transforms into a dragon if Cannock-Kun goes down
Imagine

Okay, seeing as how it's going to get tricky to tell spoilers from bullshitting, I'm going to go dark on these threads for a while. Take care, everyone.

>spun a wheel for the next DQ game to start
>IV
It has been collecting digital dust in my 3DS, so I guess better late than never.

lmao

DQ 12 is real life!

X

1&2 is now playable.

Not for me...

>>544610698
Oh. I should clarify then.
I'm EST, and have the game on Switch 2.

>>544611082
I'm EST too, but
>This game plans to unlock in approximately 11 hours
Gabe-sama, just let me download it overnight...

>>544611523
Oof, sorry PCbro

>official milano no arbeit collection translation before dragon quest 12
>el viento port before dragon quest 12

>>544598941
I see you're worth 1xp. I've come to collect.

Where the fuck is the NSP/XCI

>you can choose how characters use items when CPU controlled now
fucking hell, took long enough

It's Dragon Questin time

Who do you guys think was the most popular choice for wife/lifetime bro in DQXIS? Veronica was the most popular character in Japan, and Sylvando in the west, but somehow I doubt most people picked either. Were people boring and just picked Gemma?

>>544620167
i picked veronica thoughbeit

>>544620167
Japanese men:
Veronica > Gemma > Serena > Jade
Japanese women:
Erik > Serena > Veronica > Gemma
American men:
Jade > Veronica > Gemma > Serena
My anecdotal feelings based on frequency of fanart

>>544620663
Isn't Jade basically DQ Tifa, how could Japan like her least?

>>544620861
One of these
>too sisterly
>not as cute as the arborian twins
>booga

>>544620861
They like her but not as a wife, she thinks of Luminary as a brother AND got too pornbaited.

>>544625489
>got too pornbaited
To the point where they had to retcon Booga as a bashful virgin who thinks holding hands is too lewd.

>>544592957
I couldn't finish 4... I completely lost interest once I reached the last act and put the game off long enough to where I'm totally lost where to go. Interesting game but I'd be lying if I said I liked it

>>544625810
Why does every art with Cannock-chan make her look like she's been photoshopped in lol?

>>544625810
digital artwork is amaazing

I love this little Daisy wannabe so damn much bwos....

Let's slurping goo

>>544629961
Six hours to goo sadly...

>Playing 2 before 1
Don't do that the 1 remake is kino

Been playing 3 remake. I got all the orbs and beat garboyle. How far till i beat the game?? I wanna beat the main story then hop to 1+2 remake.

Which cousin gets the right to fuck Cannock-chan?

>>544630713
65% done

>>544631846
damn and Im already level 35?

>>544631127
Peronel

>>544620167
>Were people boring and just picked Gemma?
If I finished XI S, I would have. Childhood friend is the best romance.
I also would pick Medea over Jessica in VIII if I played 3DS.

>>544620167
I know who I picked.

i guess everyone's playing the game(s) haha

I thought the Green Dragon would be a pushover but I was mistaken

Only chads play DQ2 before 1

my copy from amazon isnt coming to saturday…whats the point of preordering?

Who is your favourite DQ big bad? I'm torn between Dragonlord for being the most actually scary and threatening of the big bads and Corvus for actually having somewhat of a backstory.

>>544651765
Psaro, without a doubt.

>>544651765
Jagonuba

>>544651765
hargon

>>544651765
Page 10

>>544651765
Psaro. I liked the parallel he had with Solo

>>544651765
I don't care that much about Psaro as a character but his in-battle transformation is so cool
Mordegon is the most fun to fight but his buff form looks like complete shit
Hargon has my favorite personality, but solely because of Builders 2

>>544651765
The way DQ2 starts with random towns getting obliterated by an army of darkness will never leave my memory, Hargon is a legitimately evil threat

Unlike Baramos who's like, out there doing shit or whatever, Or Psaro who's kinda understandable or fucking Jasper who's just a dumb bitch - Hargon is just a shithead force of evil and the game wont let you forget it.

>>544653314
Ah yes. DQ Kart.

does the steam version link save data with dq3? I didn't get that prompt

If I get the Switch 2 version of DQ1+2 HD2D, do I still get the save bonus since I got DQ3 HD2D on Switch 1?

>>544620663
After finishing the game, i can only see Veronica or Senya as the rightful brides, even their dialogues have a much deeper meaning and more heartwearming moments

I want to play, but I just got done with Pokemon and then a long VN, so I feel like I should play something with a bit less text. And also I was neglecting Inktober the whole time.

Apologies if I bring any shittalking here but I'm genuinely curious since I'm noticing on /v/ there's a SHIT ton of "shitposters" on DQ quests I'm guessing originating from Anti-FF/Anti-SE fags.

WHEN/WHERE/HOW THE FUCK DID THEY STARTED INVADING THE FUCKING DQ THREADS? Did the DQ3 remake censorship mindbreak them THAT much?

>>544664615
Who cares. Whine about /v/ in /v/

>>544664862
how? it's like going to canada and complaining about indians.

>>544664615
There's one retard from here who thinks he's gatekeeping DQ by purposefully making every DQ thread on /v/ about censorship.
Genuinely he probably makes up half the negative posts you see.

>>544664615
anon how can you still not understand /v/ is all about hating <new thing>? Those boards they made a few years ago were specifically to make /v/ the containment board for this reason

>>544665918
If more people in Canada were willing to complain about the Indians there'd probably be less Indians

>>544666868
.....

I'm a few hours into the first game and I'm enjoying it a lot so far. I can't wait to get to II, I want to see why SE is so protective about spoilers.

>>544664615
Yeah it's just this >>544666237

>>544668348
How the fuck did all things did DQ get a fucking schizo? Literally must've latched onto it because of association to FF.

>>544669414
I think it was because they hated smashfags or something retarded

>>544664615
there have always been shitposters in those threads, but it got worse when they revealed the character designs for the 3make
ever since then lots of people whined about 'THEY WAITED FOR TORIYAMA TO DIE TO CHANGE THE ART', and that never stopped, they blame everything on censorship that has already been in 8, 9, 11, or M3
doesn't help that the biggest coverage 3make has gotten was culture warriors making videos about it being censored and spreading misinfo like gender-exclusive vocations that have been removed by the evil DEI type 1 or 2
dq in the west will probably never get rid of this, not as long as these culture warriors are at it

Game's off to a great start.

Journalist mode was partially separated from babby mode, apparently.

>>544633010
Based. Pwincesses, especially pwincesses with pwonounced lispths, belong to their female welationths.

>>544669669
Never thought of staying at the inn when that slut was following me around Tantegel

I've been playing DQ1 for 10 hours, holy fucking shit the Draconian Quest is overtuned.

I'm very high level for a boss encounter of two Dragon Zombies, I have 310 HP and best Ice resist gear from grinding Gold Golems, these dragons can deal anywhere from 30 HP to 400 HP a round. There's no crowd control, no spells other than Buff from the Faerie Blade that can take this range down to 30 HP to 300 HP.
All of this would be fine if I was playing DQ2 with a party of characters, but I have only one. This is the kind of bullshit difficulty I fucking hate, where you're hard level checked. I've beaten DQ8 at pretty much purely Boss EXP and finished at level 28, so it's not me.

I was so excited for this game and now I kinda fucking hate it.

>>544487161
Fuck off, Bianca. Debora holds the key to my heart and my chastity belt.

Does anyone know if the level cap for DQ1 got raised? Always liked how it was 30.

>>544670438
Can't wait for XII to have a Skip Battle option so "casuals" can "play" a movie.

>>544669914
Can't wait for XII to have a Skip Battle option so "casuals" can "play" a movie.

>>544670438
you made a thread on /v/ too you faggot. Go farm some breath resist gear.

>play game he hasnt played before first time on hardest diff
>its hard
holy shit who would have known!? maybe once you get familiar with the game then try draconian little buddy

lvl 3 for heal is too low imo it should be like level 12 at the earliest

>okay this time I'll pick nera i swear to god I'll pick Nera
>end up picking BIANCA
HOW

>>544675997
I’m sorry, anon. You have both taste and a conscience, both a detriment to achieving your life goals.

>>544675997
Because she's the only one who outright loses at life if you don't marry her.

>>544663382
Yep. I had save data from physical switch 1 version of III, bought the digital SW2 version of I+II and it was recognized

>>544680476
>Nera ends up in a sterile marriage
>Debora becomes a bitter fat neet
>Bianca is a modestly successful, locally popular handywoman and her dad doesn't even die
I dunno

>31% downloaded
It's OK, I can rescue the princess tomorrow...

idk if i like the character additions to dq1

So is the 4th character in 2 avoidable or is it forced?

Its here! (as well as the book that was temptingly 43% off when I was preordering the game off amazon)
Little preoccupied with Treasure of the Rudras right now, so I'll probably start it up and play for like 2 hours in bed before I sleep tonight.

i dont know a single thing about this series but i think im gonna buy the 2d hd remake bundle of 1+2 and 3 for $100 what am i in for

>>544685381
I would assume forced, since they don't let you skip saving the princess in DQ1 this time.

>>544685530
Hard to speak for 1+2 yet but 3 is a pretty good version of a great game. Just keep in mind they were all originally on the NES and the remakes aren't massive overhauls or anything, you're dealing with pretty simple RPGs, especially when it comes to story.

>>544685530
cool games
if you're getting all three at the same time then keep in mind the games' director said you're supposed to play 3 first, then 1 and 2. Who knows what that actually means though

>>544685530
probably wont get much thoughts on 1+2 since they both change a fair amount and none of us have gotten through it all yet (since its release day) but 3 was pretty great. you are in for great music, beautiful lighting, fun gameplay, cute women and a tale quite timeless.

>>544685930
>>544685960
>>544685872
>3 before 1+2
huh? what the fuck did they add in 1+2

>>544686075
early in 1 there are already new characters and then there is the rubiss retcon from 3make that might be slightly confusing i guess? and 2 has like an extra 12 hours added or some shit and a hinted at twist(?) in the after game

>>544686075
Unclear so far, but it seems like the back half of 2 was expanded to some extent to tie in more with the earlier games (and 11, which is a very distant prequel) and act as a grand finale.

>>544686075
>>544686357
Oh, I guess if you're not familiar, DQ3 was always a surprise prequel to DQ1, even if originally the intention was still to play them in release order.

>>544686075
I'm up to Rimuldar in 1 and so far, there hasn't been much beyond new callbacks to 3.

>>544625810
>Cannock-chan ready to chow down when Middenhall is still adding shit to the pot
Calm down fatty

>>544398113
imagine finding out the world is about to end because the sole hero just wanted to fuck his party members

>>544398113
all female warrior

>>544664615
A long fucking time ago. Since the DS releases, at least.

>>544687732
Like a girl hero wouldn't be above doing it, either.

>there is an option to show secret spots on the map
>oh that's great I wanted that in DQ3
>turn it on
>it shows secret spots on the map BEFORE you've found them via little pings
One step forward, one step backward. I figured it just marked the ones you found on the map after you find them. I guess it's nice for those few spots that aren't immediately obvious.

>>544690124
I mean, I was just going off that picture, but a girl could do the same yeah

>>544671371
Is it true that the marriage choice basically doesn't matter in 5 since the kids are all the exact same skill and stat wise and cause the mum is barely in the party? I've always liked the look of Nera but if there's basically no time spent with her in 5 I don't see why there's a debate between them.

>>544690560
Pretty much. Pick your favorite hair color.

btw
>>544612983
>>544613452

>>544690667
That sounds so shit... I feel so much avoidance considering 5 is such a popular game. I don't like the thought of the game taking so long to start, I don't like the marriage stuff taking barely any of the game, I don't like the kids being the same, I don't like that the manservant is more of a life partner to the mc than his actual family.

>>544690560
In the remake versions there's still tons of dialogue with Nera or Debora via party chat, if you beeline for the objective they're not with you for *that* long (and they rejoin later on so you'll have them for the endgame/postgame) but they have something to say about most NPCs at most locations in the game so there's still a lot to them. All three are really good characters, even compared to ones from other DQ games with party chat who are with you for the entire game.

thought we would be more alive desu

>>544692991
Anons are either busy playing the game or trying to dodge spoilers I guess

>>544691165
I played through 2/3rds of V before giving up on it, and yeah I feel pretty much the same as you except replace the slow start issue with not liking having to rely on monster party members for the first half of the game.

>>544686516
That's why I hate them doing 3 first so much.
The impact of goint to Alefgard is completely lost

wait i didnt realize the scrolls were something you used to learn something permanently i thought it was like a one time use in battle and then you lose it

>dragon quest 1 file select doesn't play the whole song before looping
what the fuck