Thread 543912684

#6640 - S to Spit edition

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>>543912538
Warning

Swordsoul bros, our 1-card Albaz combo…

Post your farewell words to these cards.

>>543912927
I'll miss d-barrier

>>543912854
total
jush
dominance

>>543912927
My xyz Trishula didn’t deserve it

>>543912927
S to all of them except Ouroboros (I wanted to play the new Constellarknights with it before, at least) and maybe Dimensional Barrier

They just needed to hit Mitsu and Yummy too, otherwise these hits are very good in a vacuum
Also more Albaz shilling I guess

It's time.

>barrier banned
>can't get dark locked anymore
>can't get mjolnir'd anymore
BRANDED BROS ARE WE BACK??

>>543913192
Colossus is washed

>white albaz bridge into magistus into dracotail
>Spenta bridge into dracotail
>BraFu bridge into dracotail
Dracotail is the deck which benefits the most from BPRO
and unlike branded, they can run white albaz at 3

time to build light statue turbo

>>543913240
Yes we are.
Total Branded Victory.

>>543912927
Good, but there're bigger villains still getting away with this.

>>543912927
why dimensional barrier?

>>543913419
Agree.
Snatchy to 1 when?

>Protos banned once again
Shoutout to rem who seethed every time I said unbanning it was a mistake last year

Ritual Beast sisters, our Protos…

>>543913459
PLAY BRANDED PLEASE

The Barrier Statues have a very cool occultic aesthetic so it's a shame they're all fucking aids

>>543913641
Protoss turbo should die.
Now play 3 Dimensional Fissure like they did before.

good for you, brandedfags
you can also tank Ash Blossom now
HOWEVER

>>543913419
>>543913537
Snatchy to 1
Habakiri to 1
Prayers to 1
Jokull to 1

>feather storm dodged it

lel

>josh yesterday
>"even with the new support branded can't be good because there's too many cards that stop it from decks that are currently in the meta now like mjolnir, dimensional barrier, protoss"
>banlist comes out today banning all of them
curious

>>543913240
>can't really break a Yummy Mitsu board
>Dragontail backrow is brutal
>Impulse and Ash everywhere

>>543912927
Everyone but Fossil Dyna and Ouroboros deserved it. Although anyone that isn't a complete retard should know that it's handtraps and the endboards that say you can't play the game that are the actual cancer of this game.
Always makes me a little sad when an anime card that belongs to a particular character gets banned.

>>543914034
Wondering how all the celebration about Dimensional Barrier will go once people realize Mitsurugi and Yummy are gonna punch people in the dick even harder than before

>>543914034
Branded game, Branded company.
You will like Branded and you will play Branded.

:^)

>>543914168
>Always makes me a little sad when an anime card that belongs to a particular character gets banned.
Amazing on how they completely changed the effect too.

>>543914320
not strong enough

We banned so many cards, but we are still going to have to ban so many cards

>>543913924
Habakiri should be banned.
>reveal this card, add a ritual spell
is stupid, and it's pre-prepable.

>>543914153
Branded can absolutely play break a Yummy Mitsu board. The Yummy Mitsu board is only particularly crazy against decks like Yummy itself or Maliss or K9 that get really hard fucked by monster removal because they need materials on the board and we play breakers which makes it even easier since the Arc Light will do nothing.

>>543914168
To be fair, you are not playing Pachycephalo in an actual Fossil deck.

>>543914231
>Branded shilling everywhere
>Sanctifire still legal
Sure this won't cause any problems...

>>543914494
it's so unfair, konami should release as much as cards they banned

fuck Konami

>>543914320
I activate Ketu Dracotail

>>543914343
>Amazing on how they completely changed the effect too.
Remember this dude?

>defending the absolute cancer that is pachy
if the barrier statues are sinners, then that faggot card is the great sinner

>>543914589
> Branded can absolutely play break a Yummy Mitsu board.
No it can’t. It struggles too much into om I negates and that deck has 2

First you ban the floodgates
Then you ban the generic searchers that bridge into other decks/ floodgates
Yugioh is saved

>>543914320
How does this work against cards that tag out and leave the field in response, like the Yummy Synchros or Requiem?

>>543914796
The other GX examples.

>>543914958
It negates everywhere.

>>543914589
Don't kid yourself, anon. I have fought a lot of branded today and my winrate when going first against them is 100%. They can't even breakthrough elf sluts board

>>543914832
lol no it doesn't. What the fuck are you talking about? Branded does exceptionally well at breaking boards, it only struggles with Yummy because of Arc-Light being a macro cosmos.
The new quick play spell forces out Arc-Light and the rest is trivial to break.

Why do people hate Shaddolls, Branded and Dracotail? They're fair decks.

>>543914832
?
It's literally one singular Arc Light, there is no other omni negate, Murakumo is not an omni negate lol
Also, Arc Light is not even a good negate, it negates activation which means you can still resolve BranFu if they use it on it
Normal Summon Albaz breaks half the board

>>543915283
xyz subhumans mad abotu fusion supremacy

>>543915326
2/10

Now what Labrynth bros?
The best normal trap floodgate is gone...

>>543915283
branded's whole gameplan is locking you with their dumb white dragon, how is that fair

>>543915283
Mostly Winda, Sanctifire, and complete lack of matchup knowledge.

>>543915326
>Wake Cup
>PSE or N
Understandable but still funny.

>>543915303
You’re forgetting the Mitsurugi trap

>>543915672
dishonest labfaggot
previous thread just had a post showing another good floodgate for the likes of you
You have plenty

>>543915552
>XYZ XYZ XYZ XYZ XYZ XYZ
Obsessed

>>543915672
I hate cool decks resorting to gay tactics. Branded does it with its Sanctifire lock, Labrynth does it with Dimensional Barrier. Both would be better off without them lame tactics even if it hurts their winrate a bit.

>>543912684 (OP)
Melty banlist also no feather storm LMAO!

>>543915672
Simul Archfiends, Different Dimension Ground, EEV and Droll + Disturbance Strategy are still good. We'll be fine

how to balance floodgate?

>>543915283
>shaddoll
It kick-started fhe era of floating and is the mother of the term cheatsion
>branded
Shilled but never good. Meta players don't feel anything for it aince it is too weak. Casual don't like seeing Konami playing favoritism
>dracotail
Because a lot of anti-yummy and anti-K9 cards don't work on dracotail. It is annoying enough to warrant side deck cards, yet weaker than real threats like K9 and yummy

>>543916005
>If you did not doing ... last turn: *floodgate*

>>543915936
Labrynth's entire modus operandi is gay tactics.

>>543916103
>Because a lot of anti-yummy and anti-K9 cards don't work on dracotail
Retaliating C however?

>>543915906
That's only a thing post side and even then not all of them play it

>>543916005
heavy cost

I am happy I'm never getting Barrier'd when playing Exos again at least

>>543915981
>Different Dimension Ground
This is the most important card in the game now.
Buy out incoming.

>no mitsu hit in emergency banlist
that means the archetype is not a problem and won't be hit next banlist

>>543916337
>when playing Exos
Good joke, anon, everyone knows all the Exosister players were bullied off the board.

>>543915981
will you? deck has been irrelevant even with Dbarrier

>>543916337
You're still a shittier version of Yumaslop Utopia turbo though.

King of feral imps died for nothing

>>543916337
Magnamhut, rape these whores

>>543916529
I want to believe he'll come back when Habakiri or some shit gets banned

>>543916450
>the board.
Talking about outside this place, naturally.
>>543916461
Hey, better one less blowout at least

>>543916393
Mitsu is indeed not a problem albeit, the problem is Arc Light

>>543916702
Kill yourself faggot

>>543916501
>Yumaslop Utopia turbo
best deck lets fucking goooooooooooo

>>543916532
Magnamhut FEARS those whores.

>>543916532
>Sorry, last time I attempted to I got sucked dry by MER
t. Magna

>>543916794
t. snatchy

Which deck has the worst waifutroons: Sky Striker, Evil Twin, Lab, Tears, Exos or Maliss?

>>543916980
Branded by far.

18 banned XYZ monsters in the TCG.

>>543916980
all of them should be raped by pajeets in front of their parents

>>543917059
Free M-X Saber!!!

>>543917059
they have the most overpowered effect with link monsters. I don't know why konami keep cheating on them

>>543916980
I don't remember evil twins being popular in the waifu/anti-waifu debacle here.

>>543917059
>all of that cancer right next to... Zenmaity
lol

one day, there will be no banlist because every cards will be balanced

>>543917059
Diabolosis did nothing wrong. Ban Shangrila instead.

sorry guys, it was me that beat tewart with my barrier statue fossil dyna dimensional barrier deck

>>543917457
Where is Ariseheart?

>>543916871
>nooo my faggot shilled deck isn't cancer i swear
kill yourself

>>543917059
broadbull can go back at 1? yes or no?

>>543917647
Lunalight doesn't deserve him.

Habakiri was a mistake.

>>543917647
he can but they're saving him for the next zoodiac support wave
do not ask which animal it will be

>>543917059
There're 19 actually.

>>543917553
evaded the prison

>>543917059
Half of them don't even need to be there.

Invoker and Boat and are long overdue to come off, Feral Imps is the scapegoat for Mitsu, Dweller is a necessary evil, Bahamut is the scapegoat for Toad, Beatrice is the scapegoat for Fiendsmith, Paradice is the scapegoat for K9, Ouroboros is the scapegoat for Ryzeal and Mindhacker is the scapegoat for Kashtira.

Finally Broadbull can come back, Zoos are powercreeped and no amount of cope can say otherwise, Tomahawk, Chain, Dark matter are only there because muh potential and Rhongo and Utopia don't work outside of meme decks.

Only Azathoth and Calamities deserve the ban for actually turning off the game for the other player.

>>543917647
Never. You shouldn't be able to search entire types with 2 level 4s.

>>543917757
>do not ask which animal it will be
the cat? it is in the story

How do we feel about the new trend about liking all the animes?

This game is a joke.

>>543917954
Ask Banshee then.

>>543918038
Should also be banned alongside Granite.
You have Tiger King, Broadbull should stay banned forever.

>>543917998
>the cat? it is in the story
Pretty sure that's a revision.
There's also the Jade Emperor, who's actually in the story

>>543917998
cat died didn't it?

>>543918020
All the animes have their strong points
>DM is a Shonen Classic
>GX is kino for /x/philes
>5Ds is kino for at least 60 episodes
>Zexal has some kino characters
>Arc-V has a good start
>VRAINS aged very well as a warning about AI
>Rush is Kokomo kino

>It's completely Mitsurugi's fault
>A large number of lock cards were purged.
>I understand sealing attribute special summons, but what about dimensional barrier?
>Cards that should be banned
>The artifacts have all arrived on the "other side"
>I hate SS blocking, so I'm honestly jealous of this revision.
>I want all cards except for Dimensional Barrier to be banned here too.
>Overseas, they accurately eliminate uninteresting cards.
>We can ban these guys here too!
>Solitaire control is good control, and continuous magic/trap control is bad control.
>Ouroboros, exiled overseas too
>Protos is banned again in a year, lol
>Honestly, I think it's great, but I don't think they do this in Japan.
>It was an emergency revision due to a lot of complaints from TCG duelists. There was a big debate over there.
>The dimensional barrier was a surprise, but the rest is to be expected.
>Dimensional Barrier is also banned because only gross decks use it.
>Looking at the lineup, that makes sense... but if you think about it objectively, has it ever been unusual for seven cards to be banned?
>This is the kind of place I go to a lot overseas.
>Honestly, these guys should be banned in Japan too. Seriously, the Barrier Statue and Pachycephalo are really useless .

>>543918375
>>I want all cards except for Dimensional Barrier to be banned here too.
Can someone explain to me how the brains of subhumans who defend Barrier work?

>>543918020
/dng/ will just shitpost the same as always.

Dimensional Barrier is always a total mistake
these elevens have no eye

>>543918375
>the Barrier Statue and Pachycephalo are really useless .
This is the hottest take I've seen from a Jap. It's like he forget when bird piles autowon off Simorgh into statue or when Pachy was a legit problem card in control decks

>>543917193
The banned Links.

>>543917059
Bull, King Imp, Invoker, Chin and BamHam shark can and should be unbanned

>>543918350
>>Arc-V has a good start
LMAOOO

>>543918732
Meow Mu can come back. Pranks are beyond powercrept.

Halloween Shark.

>>543918732
This is why Genesys was right to ban this entire card type. It's the worst addition to the game we ever had.

>>543918732
Meowmeowmu, Moon, Scarecrow, Electrumite, Mermaid, Goblin, Auroradon, Simorgh and Linkross can come back and nothing happens.

>>543918551
i assume they think "it's ok because it's an unsearchable* normal trap"
*note: i think that is bullshit it absolutely is searchable, i'm just guessing that's their reasoning

>>543919174
>Linkross
Fuck off

Hello Featherstorm ban? HELLO?!

>>543918721
>Honestly, these guys should be banned in Japan too.
I think useless was a mistranslation

>>543919319
I mean, even if that was true, you could use that argument to defend Royal Oppression

>>543918732
Everything on here besides Halq and Apo can come back

>>543919321
Card's shit without Halq

>>543918551
Trap decks use it.

>>543919174
Requiem should have been banned over Moon.

Also let off Union Carrier, Halqifibrax and Verte, Gumblar, Decoder, Splash and Curious too.

>>543917808
Updated the chart.

>>543919479
You know what else uses it? Yummy, Mitsurugi and Dracotail

>>543918732
>can come back/something else should've been banned
goblin, meow-mu, electrumite, superheavy, decoder, splash mage, closed heaven, simorgh
>arguably can come back but probably shouldn't
auroradon, verte, elf, phoenix, mermaid, linkross
>please never again
the rest

I'm going to wait for Cimooo to basedface at the banlist (despite not playing modern) before forming my own opinions.

omega now has genesys ladder and casual
mr. edo is still throwing his autistic tantrum

>>543919717
based move

>>543919549
t. Dormouse

>>543919578
Zenmaity is such a jobber compared to the rest

>>543918596
You need to understand the context of when Dimensional Barrier was released.

Arc-V was pushing decks towards using all of the summoning mechanics and Barrier was seen as a way to cut off a single part of a deck's combo lines and force them into something else. It was the change of direction of deck design which turned it into an autowin

>>543919623
Every meta deck ever used it
Point is trap decks are a staple of the game and they liked that card so they defend it.

>>543919578
huuuuh can feral imp come back to 1 please

>>543912684 (OP)
Holy fuck. This was a GOATED emergency ban. I'm so glad that the TCG is less tolerant of floodgates than our Nihonese counterpart.

>>543919836
Hunter was the real problem card of that Loop. Zenmaity just generates empty advantage.

>>543919549
>let off Union Carrier, Halqifibrax and Verte
ffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck no
Carrier is retarded as fuck, Halq is pure slop and i do not want Lunalight to go ''teehee i convert 2 monsters into instant Liger xdddd''

does this count as an emergency list? it wasn't that long ago that we got a list

>>543918551
You don't understand anon, FAGbrynth players NEED to have Dimensional Barrier to compensate for their lame waifutrash deck!

>>543919578
>Seven of them are Numbers + Bahamut Shark which is a ZEXAL manga card
ZEXAL 2 stronk

>>543920151
Bruh nobody is playing Verte

>>543920194
they have a ton of floodgates left to use as posted by anons

Labrynth still has daruma

>>543912927
D Barrier wasn't even that crazy this format so I'm suprised this is finally where it meets its end. Good riddance and long time coming though.

>>543920341
Daruma is a glorified book of moon.

Nooooo why didn't they ban Habakiri!

what cards should konami ban next?

did the TCG suddenly start playing the game again?

>>543920324
Labrynth is the weakest Deck Build Pack waifu archetype in history versus the weakest one of today in Maliss, it NEEDS Barrier

>>543920645
were catching up with ocg, lol (thats a joke)

>>543920787
All of these cards with the sole exception of Ouroboros are completely legal in the OCG

>>543920151
>NOOOOOOOO, DON'T BUSTER LOCK ME
>NOOOOOOOO, DON'T COMBO IN FRONT OF ME
>NOOOOOOOO, DON'T TRIGGER MY DPE PTSD
It's time to move on already. None of these cards are any worse than the current hell we're in with Mitsurgi or Yummy.

>>543920894
It's fine because OCG players are too busy doing the roach dance.

>>543912927
Fuck you all negroids, rot in hell. The niggers who built onomat ryzeal at my locals are crying right now.

>>543920945
>Until the end phase

>>543921064
would be too op

Pretty satisfied at the moment until I see if I wanna run the Cont. Spell at least.

>>543918596
Except it wasn't?

>>543921064
Just killed them next turn?

>>543920937
Do you think Mitsu Yummy can't also just do the Busterlock?

>>543921185
>Kill them with no extra deck

>>543921145
whats the combo/end board

Hus name is actually Jonouchi. That's the name Kazuki bestowed upon him.

>>543921309
You just make Perfection with 3-4 Fairies in hand (one being EVA 99% of the time) and negate everything the opponent does. Sometimes if you're spicy you make Dyna Mondo to get back a negate or Hip Hoshinigga to make him beefier.

>>543920598
Every card I don't like

>>543918350
And of course the retard had to reply specifically to Arc-V. Also
>>VRAINS aged very well as a warning about AI
People still believe on this shit?

>>543918551
>opponent maxx C you
>you didn't draw ash, called by, or crossout
>your deck is trash so it can't droll itself either
>luckily you can still activate thrust to set D barrier to turn skip your opponent back and win on turn 3
Use your brain anon. People like you are the reason why there are still wars on this planet

>>543921595
Education is getting fucked hard by AI and now art, music and games are dying because of AI.

>>543921515
hmm ok I see h1ve fun

>>543921595
revolver was right all along
TOTAL AI ERADICATION
DISAPPEAR! CYBERSE!

>>543921774
>art
People still prefer real life people
>music
Huh?
>games
We still don't have that yet.

Aoi has aged very well as a ygo heroine.

>>543921036
this but with people calling the deck "Rishid" instead of being normal and saying Odion

>No more Protos call DARK
Maliss is so back

>>543921582
Anybody feel like her character was retconned because of them cutting the sinful spoils story short? She was set up to be Diabellstar's rival but then it turns out she just wanted to fight Azamina solo to make up for destroying the White Forest.

I think the Joshua Schmidt video might've forced Konami to act. Maybe they would've done this anyway, but when one of your top shills makes a 20 minute video calling the game dogshit it's probably worth taking notes.

Does feel like there's been some sort of change in the TCG staff too.

>>543921881
Blue Jobber.

>>543920430
this but unironically

Is he right, is it ok to just leave if your opponent brings something irrelevant like Lunalight?

We all choose synchro with Ecclesia, right?

KWAB
Nigga got btfo by his own card

>No more D Barrier
Finally I can play Rose Dragons...

>>543922085
Oh his video 100% contributed. That YCS final was such an abysmal affair. Literally showcasing the very worst the game has to offer. No causal would ever try the game after seeing that shitshow.

>>543921961
They were obviously related what with both having the Diabell prefix. And even on first reveal people were calling them estranged girlfriends or something to that effect.

>>543922340
No "casual" is ever going to watch a fucking ycs stream you absolute retard

>>543918551
When talking about floodgates pro players have this argument that people want to keep them because it enables them to beat better players. I think this is massive cope most of the time except it 100% applies to Dbarrier. People really enjoy flipping up a non-commital "You aren't allowed to play today" button.

>>543913192
>>543913339
>does nothing in duel links
>not even rouge
L M A O

2 weeks until Fleur synchro…

>>543922492
That's the whole point of a ycs. Advertising the fucking game.

>>543922285
combobaboon just mad they couldn't force their opponent to watch them jerk off for 15 minutes into an unbreakable endboard

>>543922541
When a metafag floodgates you, it's just optimal. The goal is to win.
When a stunfag floogates you, it's spiteful. The goal is to ensure the opponent suffers.

>>543922483
>Diabell prefix
That's also another weird point.
Originally, the archetype had supported for "Diabellstar" implying that she was going to have a whole archetype for herself and then they started pivoting to supporting "Diabell" instead. It makes there being no equivalent "Diabellze" support jarring.

>>543922271
:0

can't wait for rebd support

>>543922492
It's not an unreasonably unlikely occurrence
>browsing twitch/youtube and are someone mildly interested in other card games
>see the official yugioh account streaming an event
>"oh I've heard about yugioh before let me check it out"
>they understand nothing about what's going except one guy is playing and the other guy has lost before taking a turn

>>543921036
japanese joey isn't even from brooklyn

>>543922901
>gx ep 29 rebroadcast
well, Fubuki was cool when he put on the mask

BLDO will be O'Brien support

>>543919740
>edo shills have not replied to this
/dng/ is so pathetic

>>543922285
>Lunalight Serenade Dance
>Babel
>Mitsurugi
Do i even want to know what the fuck am i looking at?

>>543922848
They were cautious about having a floodgate too easily accessible. She turns off breakers like Eclipse, Droplet, and Spoly, and can pop Dark Ruler before it can be activate it. Just imagine Wanted for her on top of a full board.

>>543922901
Red Eyes has a lot of good cards, it just lacks the fundamental pieces to make it an actual deck and not just the least bad Red Eyes monsters with Black Metal Dragon

>>543923096
unpopular side characters don’t get main set covers

>>543923168
>it just lacks the fundamental pieces to make it an actual deck
thats what Im asking for. I want to make rebd functional

>>543923134
Darkslop? It's not that particularly confusing, Mitsu Orcust is a thing and Lunalight Orcust was a thing so

>>543923134
some kind of unholy slop that is begging to die to a FTK player

>>543923134
Orcust Luna isn't new. People did it all the way back in 2018.

>>543922317
nice background

>>543923096
The Maiden of the Aqua retrain that’s Volcanic support.

>>543923335
>>543923363
>Lunalight Orcust
Please don't remind me

>>543923315
sorry buddy you gotta play rush if you want to play red-eyes without embarrassing yourself

More importantly, Rokket will get a follow-up card
what kind of card would you like?

Zarc didn’t get any follow-up card after AGOV

>>543920065
You could have the full loop legal and it would do nothing, Wind-Up is fundamentally fucked in terms of card quality. There are way more egregious ways to handloop that are currently legal.

>>543923526
It feels fairly obvious that it'll be something that can search Borrel Reboot

>>543923526
link 6

>>543923784
quick launch search would be better than that

>no SP ban
>no Fuwa ban

Please... stop with the link-5+ Revulva cards... no more...

The Link-4 that searches a card.

>>543923004
>and are someone mildly interested in other card games
The algo is never going to recommend other games unless you were already watching related to that trading card game

Also Magicfags are most likely to pivot to FaB than to go to ygo

>>543923363
>>543923335
Orcust Luna worked because lunalight could bridge to orcust via mermaid (BANNED) or curious (VERY BANNED) without relying on stupid shit, Lunalight can do no such things now, bridging to Mitsu is also illogical because King of the Feral Imps is BANNED

>>543923912
>Ban cards that help going second
Classic /dng/

Given that Zenmaity is a shoe-in for the Prismatic Summon retrain there's a good chance we might see Wind Up support and a Zenmaity unban here

>>543923951
Revolver wishes he had such a thing
his link-4s are so outdated now

Link 8 when? (lol)

>>543923912
You don't have to out yourself as a bad player, you know?

>>543924020
Just discard Knightmare or Harp bro. But seriously Orcust is great because it doesn't give a single fuck about Droll.

>>543921881
Her IRL look is better.

where the fuck did all these Dimensional Barrier fanboys come from wtf

>>543924038
>>543924182
>Maxx C clone is good

https://yugipedia.com/wiki/March_2009_Lists_(OCG)
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/September_2009_Lists_(OCG)
>Brionac/Goyo (Limited March 2009)
>Dark Strike Fighter (Banned September 2009)
Ice Barrier/Goyo
Reactor

https://yugipedia.com/wiki/September_2012_Lists_(OCG)
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/March_2013_Lists_(OCG)
>Zenmaity (Limited September 2012/Banned March 2013)
Wind-Up

https://yugipedia.com/wiki/April_2015_Lists_(OCG)
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/October_2015_Lists
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/January_2016_Lists
>Qliphort Scout (Semilimited April 2015)
>Wisdom Eye Magician (Limited October 2015)
>Performage Plushfire (Banned January 2016)
Qliphort
Pendulum Magician
Performage

https://yugipedia.com/wiki/January_2018_Lists
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/October_2018_Lists
>Firewall Dragon (Limited January 2018)
>Summon Sorceress (Banned October 2018)
Firewall
Uhhh I don't fucking know for Summon Sorc

>>543924218
>Just discard Knightmare or Harp bro.
Then by that point why run Lunalight?
All that does is make both Orcust and Lunalight worse, same deal with Mitsurugi (again, no Feral Imp)

>>543924460
Turn skipping the nigger in front of you is a human right. You better remember that well.

>>543922541
The thing is this argument never works because generic floodgates like this are either irrelevant and thus not deserving of hits or good enough to be used by both shitters and meta decks. It's not fair that I get to eat a D. Barrier from a Yummy player when playing some garbage like IDK Madolche.

>>543920894
Everything is balanced because the roach exist, it's truly the most healthy card in the world

(broken)

>>543925176
i've been trying to find monarch structure decks for 5 years now

>>543924896
It is factually correct that the roach helps going 2nd player more than going 1st player. If you play TCG you will know that 3/4 of the time winning the dice roll = winning the match

ignoring fiendsmith, what are some good fairy/fiend decks

>>543923004
Have you ever been recommended a magic or ptcg tournament stream as a ygo player? For me it has never happened. This is such a non-issue.
The stupid floods were however actively making the format worse though.

>>543925376
Yubel

>>543922285
It's not Lunalight, it's 60 card Luna Orcust Mitsurugi, he is completely right

fossil dyna was 100 points in genesys, how did you not see the ban incoming?

>>543922285
Even if it was regular lunalight it'd be fine for him to skip it, but doubly so now that its some kind of orcust lunalight slop pile

>>543922285
>play random garbage on a public server
>complain you're not getting exactly what you want from random assholes
He's an idiot and the guy defending him is also an idiot. If you want to test print proxies and play against real people or actually invite someone you know to test with you.

>>543919458
this was the case for multiple years, but then they printed yummy.

>>543912684 (OP)
paki bros, ourobros...

>>543922285
>tranny flag
>doormouse avatar on db
>crying on twitter post
exactly what I expected

>>543923105
No one is replying because he's right. It's pathetic that the Edo devs refuse to implement Genesys. They're just a bunch of GOAT boomers afraid of change, and their increasingly irrelevant simulator is bleeding players more than ever. I've already switched to Omega myself.

>>543925597
Konami's most shameful shilling. Literally astroturfed deck.

>>543919740
omega has ladders?

>dark status still unbanned
Chimerabros winning

>genesyssies are still seething and begging
I think edo devs won

>>543925316
>Ash
>Talents rip
>Full combo
>Roach in draw phase

>Doomposter made the emergency banlist real
Never stop dooming and glooming sisters. We are the mightiest.

>>543926679
Always did. That's why I'm fine with them mining bitcoin on my machine, I get to play ranked and not have to deal with cheaters and judge calls on DB.

>>543926679
Yeah. It's ELO based.

>>543927315
>That's why I'm fine with them mining bitcoin on my machine,

Konami should just stop making lingering floodgate quick effects.

>>543921039
I built it and i never used ouroboros even once, my board was always F0 + detonator + duo drive + drident pass.

>>543926451
i use edopro but what's the best simulator?
dueling book or omega?

>genesys
>overframes
>floodgates getting banned
doomfags lost hard.

inb4 tcboo for attributes released soon

>>543928231
If you don't mind manual sims, then Dueling Book is the way to go. If you don't like manual, then Omega is your best bet, but be warned, you need a Discord account to play online with Omega.

>>543928253
Now we just need a new anime, but Shuesha’s gonna have to play the ball too

>>543926451
>They're just a bunch of GOAT boomers afraid of change
Honestly, I've seen more salt about Genesys from Edison players rather than Goat players.

Its not fair lswarmgods...
We dont even have support...

>>543921039
Look man, I just wanna Uuutopia in peace, it's none of my business that niggers wanna handrip.

>>543928607
None of the Edison players in my friend circles are sour about Genesys. But I guess it varies from community to community.

>>543915672
Just give them cooties instead.

when are we going to know the full list of the legendary decks
i wonder if we're getting one of each of the charmies in each deck (we won't)
imagine...

No one that plays retro formats gives a shit about Genesys. The primary draw with retro formats is the static card pool. All the Genesys shitflinging is coming from people that play advanced.

>>543928587
i'm not sure what manual is, does it have you do everything without prompts? does it even let you missplay?

>>543929397
In manual sims, nothing is automated. You have to preform every action yourself, just like if you're playing the actually paper card game.
>does it even let you missplay?
Yes, you can misplay. So for the love of God, please make sure you understand how your deck works.

>>543928587
discord isn't the problem
omega being a bitcoin miner or keylogger is the bad part

i thought the keylogger bitcoin mining thing was a meme

>>543912684 (OP)
Man. The TCG isn’t playing around anymore.

>>543930404
solid list but they should've hit feather storm for the same reason they hit dbarrier

>>543930274
>omega being a bitcoin miner or keylogger is the bad part
I don't know where you got that info from. The sim has a Github page, so you can look at the code yourself and see that no malicious software or code is present.
https://github.com/duelists-unite

>>543922051
>>543922271
Aki, my beloved.
Elvennotes will save Rose Dragon, r-right?

>>543930374
If you're using a EDO fork and it's actually taking up resources fucking purge your machine.

man, the resident omega shill really works overtime huh

>>543930274
>>543930374
It was at first since it was closed source + always online for a yugioh sim of all things, but I think he took them out and made it open source after the first year

>>543918805
Arc-V did have a decent start. It did crash harder than any toyetic series though

>>543921961
No? Her character was obviously set up from beginning to be what she was

>>543931091
>EDO fork
Technically
EDO is a fork of YGOPro1
Omega is a fork of YGOPro2

>>543930940
There's literally no code in there lol
A github repo without code doesn't mean shit

>they banned fire and dirt statues
Cringe and gay. Atleast water, light and dark are still legal

>>543912927
>banlist favors Yummy even more
>Yummy merch out the wazoo
>dng had people leaking Yummy art before they released any info or art
Diaperfags need to be purged from this game

>>543931909
for now ;)

british hours already huh

>Albaz is designed like Medius. He can Special Summon an Ecclesia that supports each archetype.

>Dogmatika Ecclesia: Searches Dogmatika cards that are boardbreakers, rituals, or handtraps.
>Incredible Ecclesia: Special Summons Swordsoul monsters and “Fallen of Albaz”: Cards that specialize in level 8 synchro combos. Swordsoul received two new targets to synchro into (Ecclesia card and the Swordsoul card)
>Springans Ecclesia: The Anime right now is about the relationship between Ecclesia, Kitt (a non-tuner), and the Springans. Which is very important for the story and explains a lot about Sargas’ actions in the card lore. Would be designed for Rank 4 and seto-Rank 4 (Level 8 Synchro) combos Springans Specializes in.

>>543932635
I said I wanted this a few days ago before the new eccelsia was revealed, I doubt they'd give us a springans and even then, the new albaz locks you because they fucking hate best boys for no reason.

decide their fate

/dng/ LEAGUE ROUND 8

JOIN:
https://challonge.com/dngleagueseason1

Here's how this works:
>4 month long tournament, spanning from the 7th of September to the 18th of January (20 rounds), with the Top 4 Finals taking place on the 25th of January
>new participants can join the tournament at any point in time, just sign up on the tournament page
>a single round will be held each week
>BO3 matches and we're using a very basic leaderboard system, match wins and byes net you 2 points, match losses net you 1 point and no shows give you nothing
>2 no shows in a row will result in a disqualification
>matchups will be randomized each week, as allowing new players to join all the time messes with any automated round systems
>The randomized matchups will be announced in the thread each Monday and the matchups can agree on the time and date of the duel during that week
>you are allowed to change decks between rounds
>we will be using the most recent TCG banlist and the PRERELEASE card pool
>300 second turn timers, no reason for a time limit on rounds as it's only 1 round per week
>report scores via DMs

CHALLONGE DMs ARE BACK ONLINE
This means we no longer need to rely on the Discord server, but I'm still keeping it around just in case.
https://discord.gg/CM8tYGxS3A

RULE CHANGE REMINDER:
You can do Genesys (or any other format of dueling) instead of Advanced TCG if both players can agree on the terms. The Top 4 finals in January will still be Advanced TCG only, however.

ROUND 8 MATCHUPS:
>Sefton vs Lacooda [COMPLETED]
>Unplayer vs Vell
>Lynex vs Maelstrom [COMPLETED]
>Nyx vs Common
>Getter vs Porker
>Da vs SGoblin

LIVE TABLE:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1m0eeC_NUZxyedKHA-QtjPHvY0ItHGgdCHxRObS-Qz7M/edit?usp=sharing

Name one argument against Omega that applies to (me).
>Forced discord
It still let's you play anonymously so idc
>Bitcoin miner
A myth, post the string of code with the miner or stfu.

>>543933740
Sex them up

is there a wesbite that sells yugioh cards and structure decsk with international delivery? i want to get cards in algeria

>>543933740
burn em
stop using standard sized sleeves for yugioh btw

>>543933942
Cardmarket maybe

>>543933740
Cum on them

>>543919740
>>543923105
>>543933921
>please, engage

>>543933935
I don't understand...
>>543933950
Are Yugioh cards not flammable anymore? He doesn't want to burn.
Standard sleeves are just for stuff in the binder or in storage anyways, they get the proper sleeves when being played.

>>543934656
not using enough fire, send him to hell

>>543912684 (OP)
Thank GOD

>>543933935
She looks like she milks little blonde boys dry.

>>543933740
Eat one and gain its power

Stand up SuperNova is peak in Genesys.

>ban dbarrier so you can release dbarrier 2 (include links)

500 IQ

>>543934380
Can't post that here though...
>>543934880
He is invincible! The barrier is holding strong.

>>543913192
Only powerful if it backed up with plenty of disruptions

>>543935610
does this survive dark ruler no more?

>>543916005
You create dispel cards that works even on lingering effects

>>543930940
They use github to post releases, but the program is still closed source

>>543935539
>Can't post that here though...
Says who?

>>543935728
the yang zing trap is an omninegate so that stops DRNM

>>543935728
anon please look at the backrow

feels so good to know baronne, savage and apollousa will never appear in a tcg endboard again

>>543935728
>Nine Pillars Counter Trap
It sure does, what you 'might' need to worry about is lava golem, maybe.

Since D-Barrier is banned, will Spellbound finally see use?

>>543926451
I don't give a shit about anything YGOPro/Percy related ever since the Clock Lizard fiasco

Are catbox files not loading for anyone else?

>>543935610
summon sphere mode
double summon
summon second sphere mode

>>543932974
I have seen Springans end boards.
They honestly don’t have the XYZs to write home about besides Gung-ho (which they’ve received that’s all about making these albaz combos) and that Sargas that can’t activate its interruption on its own in this era of Ryzeal and Yummy.
And Albaz can send Gung-ho to the GY for Regulus to equip.
The overall gimmick of Springans is resolve the field spell, hope the opponent doesn’t kill the XYZ or the field spell beforehand, get Regulus because he is the only protection/interruption that does anything since Merry-maker has no effect besides sending a Springans into the GY and you turn it into Sargas to search the tally-ho, and go into generic dated XYZs.

You’re also forgetting that Albaz tossed out the old level 10 swordsoul cards, all of which aren’t even that good in the first place. What makes you think your support will be any different? Gung-ho/Sargas basically is the springans edition of Chixioa. You keep that and toss the rest away. Otherwise, you will have to hold bricks that essentially have no effects.

K9 can switch to spell canceller now

>>543936060
simul archfiend will see play probably

>>543936154
I checked, It seems it's down.

>>543912684 (OP)
When the floodgates went too hard

Quinquery is the problem
Banshee is the problem
Granite is the problem

>>543936410
do we know why?

>>543935316
atlantean mermail bros... be very, very quiet... they might forget...

>>543936907
is the deck any relevant after bahamut ban? it might be the only reason they spared torrent

>>543936812
Most likely niggas spamming child porn and linking it. I just had the unfortunate sight of spotting CP on the famitsu /v/ thread on page 1, page 1, god damn.

>>543937114
Hasn't topped in a while. They just banned the ones you can search with a rank 4

>>543937273
do catbox staff have a social media page or something? Maybe they'll post an update.

>>543912684 (OP)
where is shifter

lmao, is artifact the most banned archetype after this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dSADqS2DsU
>Merlanteans when the reason why Torrents and Moulinglacia didn't get touched is because the deck isn't good enough to get hit

>>543914832
> No it can’t. It struggles too much into om I negates and that deck has 2
I have to ask, what decks don’t struggle against negates?
Every single negate spammer dies from a single negate. And so they play these retarded 20 handtrap piles to ensure that the second negate spammer that goes first gets negated before he can set up piles of negates. Creating this feedback loop of pure repetitive stupidity until one them remembers that Super Poly is a card or they do Drolls, Lancea, etc, for turn 0 floodgating.
The boards Branded currently loses to are objectively impossible for any other deck unless they were K9-Vanquish Soul or Ishizu-Tearlaments and only if they played the game at turn 0.

>>543938079
with 2 cards?

>>543912684 (OP)
the lower the prices of booster boxes get the more floodgates get banned,

>>543938079
not even close, be it total number (2 lol) or percentage of the deck that'd banned. (that's almost certainly entity. they also have 2 banned cards, but also only like, 7-9 cards total.)

Would you be okay with a slight tweak to Genesys that allowed for pendulums in the S/T zone, but NO PENDULUM SUMMONS and Pendulum monsters only being legal of they have a Genesys cost?

Fish boy.

>>543938556
Why not just sell a minibox with smaller packs for $30-50, 5 cards, 1 SR or higher, 4 commons

>>543938785
Those conditions are more convoluted than pendulums are

8 of the 13 Dragon Rulers have seen the forbidden list at some point, prior to the new support ALL Dragon Ruler cards were forbidden at some point, well above anything else
>>543938785
Wouldn't you just rather get support for these

>>543939080
Genesys is more convoluted than the normal game.

>>543938079

Ishizu has 2/12 copies legal for play

>>543939680
and that's 2 too many, the biggest mistake in this game's history along with their partners in crime

WE are ALL watching this :
https://youtu.be/r3HvsiiFYO4

>>543939864
>shilling
Diapercord is truly a sad sad group of retards isn't it?

>>543936269
Missing the point, everyone that plays springans knows what their weaknesses are. Having albaz summon out an eccelsia would've at least given another useful maindeck name if you could actually xyz with the fucking things. He could've even triggered sprind on his own, but they're very obsessed with keeping springans as the least useful branded archetype despite them canonically saving the day.

>>543939864
VGH kys yugituber shil-
O my Agartha is that my fuarking hero that konami kneel and piss and shit themselves by pointing out how much of a joke their judges and tourneys and also the entire reason we got todays emergency banlist that fuarking SAVED ygo, Yes, sisters WE are watching HIM.

Edomonkeys: mogged btw

>>543940867
I don't know why they don't add it.

>>543940867
>Deck Selected Exosister
Sis.....

>>543941124
Autism + spite is a hell of a drug.

>>543941124
It's literally just stubbornness.

Rush lost

New Ygopro fork when?

>>543912927
>fire statue and protos banned
My banshee is SAFE.
I just want to search volcanics man, I'm already down to 1 bonfire.

Creatures.

>>543935096
Let me cook.
https://imgur.com/a/nWhqLgv
>>543935857
Think of the ads, anon...

>People finally start putting pressure on konmai for the game being shit
>Konmai does the bare minimum
>everyone immediately starts fellating
And this is why we don't EVER get good things. Fucking morons.

>>543941939
>everyone immediately starts fellating

no one is doing that tho

>>543941939
What do you think they should do since you're so smart and everyone else is stupid?

>>543941939
Postitive decisions should be praised

>>543941909
New rarity leaked, you can thank me later Tewart.

>>543920151
>But think of the fun things you could do

>>543941709
>searches flag
>searches corridor
>makes colossus

Some retard here was bashing the OCG for banning Ouroboros a month ago btw

>>543942290
Colossus sucks so who cares

>>543942074
See pic.
>>543942112
>>543942143
Keep the heat on Konami! That's the only way they listen! Sucking Jewarts cock gets you nowhere.

>>543942192
do they all crack like that?

>>543941939
>yea those youtube videos are really what did it and not the fact that sets are 20 dollars under MSRP.

i can not stress this enough we have had points in the game where it was format after format of the worst possible yugioh being played but sets being sold still.

>And this is why we don't EVER get good things. Fucking morons.
your in luck things will keep improving till they make money again.

>>543942361
Literally every card save for Ouroboros is completely legal there retard

installing omega as we speak.

>>543928231
Dueling book is just shark simulator.

>>543942396
wasnt this mentally ill closet cuck just talking about how the game is perfect and floodgates dont even exist

>>543942560
Found the dumbass. Missing the point once again, no surprise

>>543935610
This board looks mighty polyable.

>>543938785
No. They should be treated as just monsters.

>>543940241
>He could've even triggered sprind on his own, but they're very obsessed with keeping springans as the least useful branded archetype despite them canonically saving the day.
Anon, any great tools they would be given would be abused by Ryzael or some other non-Albaz deck for engine slop. And Konami has enough of that insanity in this set alone.
All you need is two main deck cards and you can replace the OG Springans with Springans Kitt, Tri-brigade Springans Kitt, and Albaz.
A level 4 Sargas retrain and Springans Ecclesia would be enough.

>>543942442
Tried cooking an Apollousa and she exploded immediately.

>>543942793
Oh the irony of this retard still crying when asked why the OCG only banned Ouroboros and not the other AIDS cards decks can easily utilize like the TCG did

>>543942793
>why did they only ban Ouroboros and not the several other cards that also plague the format
>ARE YOU SAYING OUROBOROS IS GOOD? ARE YOU SAYING IT SHOULD BE AT 3?
What a shock the retard crying about shit from a month ago missed the point of why this emergency banlist was good and the OCG banlist was terrible

>>543943023
I've been superpolyed multiple times (by close to full power Tearlament) with this board and never lost

it's over labsisters...

>>543943247
>>543943453
The OCG banlist not banning other cancerours bullshit doesn't change the fact that this bitch cried about hitting a handloop card as if it was unncessesary, fucking retards. This is why nobody will ever love you

>>543943741
>Jowgen legal
>Pachy legal
>DBarrier legal
>Mjolnir legal
>Gimmick Puppet Nightmare lock legal
>Drought legal
>Inferno legal
>Protos legal
>uh but the OCG hit Ouroboros
It's so funny this retard has been litrrally crying a month straight about "missing the point" when he missed the point about the OCG randomly letting a bunch of cancer stay in the format including other cancer Ryzeal got up to, such as Protos

>>543942396
I hate this grifting faggot.

>>543943710
>the cosplay nigga is crying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Hp1t2A_458
It's over.

>>543943710
he's the guy that fucked the lady lab cosplayer right?

>>543943710
play a real deck you cancer

>>543943958
The TCG does the same thing, retard, this format has been getting fucked by Mitsu for a year now and they have yet to hit a single card, who cares about that.
>b-but why hit the t-tier 4 Ryzeal Onomat de-
Because it's fucking aids to play against handloops, dumbass.

>>543943710
fair and honest trap enjoyers dying due to the metafags' shenanigans

daruma cannon... tasukete!

>>543944290
>actually who cares if all those summon floodgates and turnskips are legal
lol retard

trif won

the banlist that does nothing to the meta but further beats down on poorfags playing dyna stun

Did a new point system list for genesys came out?

>>543944470
>Missing the point once again
Both formats are fucked, banning 7 of these things changes nothing. All this shit should be banned and at least 50+ cards on top of it.
Just because one card isn't seeing relevance in this current week, doesn't mean it's not worth hitting.

>>543943710
>no longer
It hasn't been competitively viable since 2023.

Rishid* won

*TL Note: Rishid is sometimes called "Odion" by people who don't respect the source material

>>543944787
>u-umm w-well what i r-really meant
Shut the fuck up retard stop crying because unlike the OCG the TCG hit a bunch of summon floodgates

>>543942396
>greatest banlist of all time
>thank you for listening Konami
Says the guy who's been all over twitter claiming that floodgates aren't real and that they shouldn't matter to anyone actually playing the game. Disingenuous fucker.

>>543944761
monday

Dimensional Barrier Statues of the Summon Mechanics

>No more Barrier Statue for Naturia Vernusylph
Oh well, It wasn't that good in this format anyway. Time to add Earth Hex Sealed Fusion to cheat out Exterio instead.

>>543943710
petdeckers when their petdeck gets the smallest hit imaginable (they drop the deck instantly)

>>543943710
Lab became unplayable the moment Izuna was printed. There's nothing a control deck can do against that.

>>543943710
Labrynth losing DB does not mean the deck is unplayable and the deck sucks the shit out of Yummy anyways, again they still have Daruma and DDG to do stupid shit. The deck is just not competitive because it lacks support to keep up because this deck is bogus bullshit that can't do a meaningful turn 1 board at all.

>>543943127
All you literally need is a line of text saying "this card cannot be used as material for an xyz monster, except "springans" monsters "
What springans actually need is an updated sand sea
That's just a copy of babel

>>543912927
Good fucking riddance

>>543945004
>no argument
Expected no less from your microbrain, go run a mile

>>543944989
You're a faggot

>>543945417
>*weak pathetic sobs over his floodgate getting banned*
Do you post anything that isn't just you pitifully whining?

>>543945521
Every second you waste ehre is a second you could be using to lose some weight, flapjack.
Banning floodgates is good as is banning handloops

>>543943710
>self-proclaimed "control" deck enthusiasts when they can't flip a card that automatically wins the game on the spot

>>543945684
>he's crying so bad his tears won't let him write properly
Sorry not sorry the TCG banned lingering summon floodgates while the OCG didn't

>>543935610
>Only uses two level 10 monsters
Konami must’ve known that Swordsoul didn’t need Longyuan afterall.
>>543943701
To be fair, Ishizu Tears does depend upon adding cards from the deck to their hand quite a lot.

>>543943710
Full text (Part 1):

MANIFESTO
why Labrynth is no longer competitively viable

table of contents:
intro
dimensional barrier
low commitment decks
future

intro
Hi, I'm kaihari and I have exclusively played labrynth and tried to compete with the deck for over a year now. I have 3 regional tops and 1 YCS top, and have made day 2 at two YCS' with the deck post-JUSH. I don't often share theory on stuff like this, but as it seems my competitive run is coming short early, I figured now was the best time to start. Earlier today Konami released an emergency banlist which banned Dimensional Barrier, and I will delve into why I think 1) it should not have been banned and 2) why it hurts labrynth more than any other deck.

dimensional barrier
Dimensional Barrier is not the best card, but it's a necessary evil to combat decks that cards like Destructive Daruma Karma Cannon doesn't help with. It interacts with the opponent in two ways: 1) by preemptively stopping the opponent from establishing board presence and 2) reducing the presence of their already established board. In that way, it acts like both a breaker and disruption, which is extremely versatile and a great payoff. But it's not as good as you think: it has to be set, it only lasts for the one turn, and to activate it and play push with your own engine, requires a lot more commitment (in the form of cooclock, arias, or lovely setting it back). If you wanted to have an edge with the card in the maindeck for game 1 you would need to gamble on not playing matchups where the card is bad (fiendsmith, maliss, hybrid decks in general). It's also not searchable, and the methods of searching it have a higher commitment requirement which makes the card fair (thrust, trap trick, lady, trap holic). The only time this card feels overwhelming is when the opponent has this backed with a full board, but even then the opponent was most likely losing anyways had the card been any other going first card.

>>543945276
It’s quite impressive how negate monsters are far more fair today than these old ones.

Writing a whole ass manifesto because a generic floodgate turnskip got banned

>>543946050
Part 2
Normal trap cards suck
Out of the limited pool of viable normal trap cards aside from dominus impulse, they all either only interact with cards on the field or needs to target. For decks like Mitsurugi, Dracotail, and even Yummy to some extent, these kind of interactions are easily played around. Mitsurugi, for example, can dodge targeted removal or negation with prayers, and once summoned, a Murakumo can be revived easily with Prayers or even Purification. Mitsurugi and Dracotail can retain full value of monsters set by Karma Cannon by either tributing or using them as fusion material. Dimensional barrier is the only card that can provide some kind of value against these decks, and that's how it should be. Traps are tools, and should be specialized in hitting certain decks over others. By banning Dimensional Barrier, there is no trap card that can hurt these decks in a meaningful way, and that's really a shame. I would be fine with the ban if a card was printed that provided a similar targeted payoff against these decks (i.e. mistaken arrest but as a normal trap could be fair since we already have droll), but normal trap card quality has been getting worse and worse, while combo piles are seeing more one card combos that can play through interaction. Dominus impulse is great, but with the use of preprep and extenders, one use of impulse isn't going to cut it at all.

future
Labrynth already has been a severely underpowered engine due to its vulnerability to interruption and high commitment to the field. I fear that the changes to the game is leaving labrynth behind, even before it has had it's time to fully shine with newer support like the gardener counterpart to arias. I really love the minimalistic and unique play style of the deck, and being able to compete with it in cosplay has been nothing less than a dream. I'll still try my best and figure out different ways to make the deck work, and I hope this has been a helpful, if interesting, read.

You know it's pretty funny original Coolia had the shitty ass "if your opponent activates a monster effect on field: destroy that monster" effect.
It's also kinda funny she has the Spell Speed 1 targeting negation effect of Shooting Majestic Star Dragon and also used to be WIND with her upgrade turning her into a LIGHT like Stardust

>>543946258
>i.e. mistaken arrest but as a normal trap
This nigger is seriously asking for more floodgate

>>543946098
you aren't a real duelist if you can't write a manifesto about a slight change to your deck

>>543946098
Labrynth uses D-Barrier as a handtrap turn 0 with butler/jack/setting it through Lady Labrynth
This is like banning Fymena for Dracotail or Izuna for K9.

>>543946258
>mistaken arrest but as a normal trap
Mistaken Arrest is already a Quick-Play, why would they print a functionally identical card to one that already exists?

>>543924559
QLIGODS

Didn't they have a whole lot of DBP decks previewed at the beginning of the year for getting stuff and Labrynth was one of them?
The others were Exosister, R-ace, Mikankos etc. and they all got support recently

trap deck and stun deck enjoyers are the most oppressed minorities in yugioh
one million more one-card full combo starters instead

>>543946391
Coolia, an honorary Stardust monster

>>543946050
Why doesn't he just run banquet of millions to eat his opponent extra deck every turn?
That way you don't even have to worry about them pivoting into a different extra deck type of monster.

>>543946843
Much like most minority groups, it turns out the oppression on trap and stun players were entirely warranted and there's a reason 109 stun cards have seen the banlist

damn, lab really was just d.barrier turbo huh

>>543946050
>>543946258
Kaihari comes off as a pessimistic bitch.

Losing Dimensional Barrier wasn’t a death sentence for Labrynth, if anything, it’s challenged us to be smarter, more innovative, and less predictable. The deck is far from dead.
First, let’s talk about the D-Barrier ban. Sure, it hurt, but leaning on a single trap made Labrynth vulnerable and telegraphed. Without it, Labrynth mains are finally tapping into the true depth of the trap pool: Dominus Impulse, Dogmatika Punishment, and especially Big Welcome Labrynth’s recursion all mean we have disruption options that change matchups and catch combo decks off guard. In fact, now we get to use our side deck space for flexible answers like Evenly Matched or Soul Drain, targeted, meta-specific traps that open up new paths to victory.
The argument that normal traps just “aren’t meta anymore” overlooks how Labrynth wins: with engine consistency, recursion, and Lady Labrynth’s near-immunity to removal. In a format flooded with greedy combos and starters, traps like Overroot, Compulsory, Torrential, and Punishment are more impactful than ever for breaking boards and grinding out wins. Our toolbox actually gets BETTER when the meta’s overloaded with monsters. Labrynth’s grind game still outlasts most top decks.
And never forget the psychological edge: most people underestimate control decks, forget how to play against traps, and misplay when they lose patience. That’s real power and it never goes out of style.
Labrynth is a deck for thinkers who want to innovate, adapt, and win with skill. The archetype isn’t dying, it’s evolving, and our best games are still ahead. If you’re a Labrynth main, don’t let nostalgia or doom-posting convince you otherwise.

Mini Yadel.

>>543947195
>and Lady Labrynth’s near-immunity to removal
lmao, even Striker can out her easily nowadays, much less other decks

I wonder if lifeforce sword can be spammed in lab and make it into a hand destruction deck

>>543945406
We already have Orcust and that deck needs link-1s and e-teles from the GY to function.
The Albaz lock and Ecclesia synchro is oddly inspired by Springans’ Rank 4 thing (the albaz lock makes four by four monsters the only thing you should have for the synchros, making them white Rank 4s) and the Ecclesia, while it does something similar to Incredible Ecclesia, her banish condition is 100% taken from Springans Merrymaker and essentially has all the benefits of Merrymaker and none of the drawbacks (as in, it does nothing during the opponent’s turn!).

reminder that graflare is a double agent

Dimensional Barrier ban is a Branded buff if you think about it

>>543947195
>Dogmatika Punishment
What the fuck are you going to be sending that's worth a damn?

>stun and stall players
trash. they cannot play the game
>combo and unga bunga players
disgusting and smelly
uh me? i'm a FTK BurnCHAD

>>543947438
You’re spot on that Lady Labrynth isn’t literally immune to removal anymore, every meta deck runs something to pop/bounce/banish bosses these days. But here’s the point: her “protection” doesn’t mean invincible, just sticky.
Stuff like Afterburners, Fenrir, Unicorn, whatever, all legit outs. The difference is, Lady takes actual effort/resources to clear. She’s way less fragile than most control pieces, especially those that just get banished Game 1 and never come back.
Labrynth’s recursion is the real story. Big Welcome lets you dodge targeting or just loop Lady back for free. If she gets outed, she’s not gone for good, she keeps coming back, and every attempt to remove her can force awkward sequencing, waste cards, or open you up to other traps (Punishment, Torrential, Overroot, etc.) in response.
Compare to most control decks right now: their bosses get banished once and it’s game over. Labrynth’s grind game is built on resilience. Lady plus the trap engine means you’re not relying on just sticking a monster and praying, it’s about maintaining advantage even when your opponent has answers.
Lady isn’t untouchable, but she’s harder to deal with than most, and Labrynth’s looping makes her a consistent problem. Deck’s not dead, just requires more brains and adapting. If combo decks want to keep wasting outs every turn, Labrynth’ll keep punishing them for it.

>>543947659
a Shaddoll :v

What are the best ways to stop YubelUnchained decks?
I do not want to get futaraped.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKAT2tGAInA
>Drident and Protos

>>543947921
ghost ogre on nightmare spain

>>543947882
>Deck’s not dead, just requires more brains and adapting
Deck has been dead for a while now, despite all the shilling it got in powerful generic traps

>>543947621
>double agent
At worst, he just didn't tell his friends that he's related to the Drastea

>>543947621
>in the near future, something cool will happen
Here's hoping

>>543912684 (OP)
>>543912927
>/dng/ said OCG hitting Ouroboros is retarded and a fucking joke
>TCG follow suit just weeks later
Really shows /dng/ know jackshit about the game.

>>543947921
It really depends on if they open a way into phantom instantly.
If they can insulate their initial plays, its hard to say what the "best" way of stopping them is.

>>543944989
Its Apophis

>>543948257
Actually it was a joke to hit ONLY Ouroboros which is why we also hit a bunch of other easily tutorable floodgates unlike the Official Clown Game, which still has everything else legal

>>543948257
>Really shows /dng/ know jackshit about the game
has /dng/ ever been right?

Aside from Yubel, which decks are the most futanari-coded?

dbarrier could go to 3 and nothing would change

>>543947195
copium: the post

>>543948440
>Actually it was a joke to hit ONLY Ouroboros which is why we also hit a bunch of other easily tutorable floodgates unlike the Official Clown Game, which still has everything else legal
What the fuck are you on about?
Not only you moved the goalposts, there's also zero correlation between hitting Ouroboros and other "easily tutorable floodgates" that has no relevancy in the game right now.

>>543933884
>Unplayer vs Vell
When it this game taking place?

"Ranming Yu-Gi-Oh Females, if they had Futa Cocks, from smallest to biggest." - the greatest thread in the history of Yugioh, locked by a moderator after 12,239 posts of heated debate.

>>543949020
>Not only you moved the goalposts
IESLB
also
>Pachy
>Dimensional Barrier
>Protos
>Mjolnir
>not relevant
based retard

>>543946050
I say this as a Labrynth enjoyer, this no different from any petdecker complaining that X card should not have been banned because it helps them beat meta when every meta deck uses it to their own advantage. You don't get to use the excuse that you commit more deck space to using it therefore it's fine when every other deck has no problem fitting it in generically. The deck is weak because Ash is everywhere as anti-charmy and anti Dracotail, Impulse heavily played in Mitsurugi, Belle is a valid option, it doesn't topdeck well, and combo decks can just run over you.
He's correct in that Karma is bad into Mitsu and fusion decks, but the solution is nontarget removal options. Weak decks are not any more entitled to generic cards than any other deck.

>>543947195
I do agree that Lab doesn't have a good normal trap against both Mitsu and Dracotail
Both of them doesn't need any monster on the field to do their things.
Murakumo forcing a discard every single turn + being able to dodge shit with Prayer is insane into Lab. Dracotail has Urgula + Gulamel pop every turn and they don't care if everything gets booked by Eclipse.
I'm not asking for more floodgate like him but I just want them to print better normal traps. It's insane that we're still talking about torrential, a card printed 2 decades ago in 2025.

>>543949209
>its entirely made of soundwave and british posts.

>>543949516
>doesn't have a good normal trap against both Mitsu and Dracotail
ERADICATOR
EPIDEMIC
VIRUS

>>543949381
>IESLB
ESLbro . . . You're such a dumb retard.

Hitting DimBar is absolutely retarded on KoA's part.
The others are irrelevant, yes.

>>543949619
Normal Summon Lukias
Reveal Habakiri

>>543949516
They do though they have the virus cards and the chain cards. There are many options they just need to be discovered.

>>543949209
>Ranming
Fatfingering phoneposter or ESL autocorrect, call it.

>>543949738
>not only you moved goalposts
>coherent english
based retard
>hitting dimbar is absolutely retarded
based retard
>the others are irrelevant
based retard
I really can't get over the fact that all these retards are seriously defending the Barrier Statues, Pachy, Dimensional Barrier and Mjolniir locking because they got mad some people asked why only Ouroboros got banned and not several other problem cards
>>543949864
>reveal habakiri
You know you can either not preemptively fire the EEV or like, have negation or some shit for the Habakiri or Ritual or something

>i literally can't shotgun a single card against mitsurugi and dracotail and automatically win and i'm expected to actually think things through, i am going to kill myself
strongest lab player

>>543949619
>>543949957
EEV into Mitsu is only good if you save it until after they search the ritual spell but if you don't shotgun it then you risk them hard drawing ritual spell anyway
EEV into DT isn't nearly as good as you think it is. If you shotgun it then they can easily play through it with mululu/faimena/cartesia. If you don't shotgun and wait until they set their spells you risk them activating Rahu/Ketu first play.

>>543950268
Damn. There’s counter play and rewarding good skill instead of just shotgunning a card in Draw Phase and shaking hands. Wow…

>>543950054
>>coherent english
>based retard
>>retarded ESL doesn't know English and only know "based retard"
LMAO, this is sad.

>>hitting dimbar is absolutely retarded
>based retard
>hitting a good side card against JUSH meta + Mitsu isn't retarded

>>the others are irrelevant
>based retard
Feel free to prove me wrong by showing how many topping decks run these cards, but you won't because the dominating decks doesn't run them.

>I really can't get over the fact that all these retards are seriously defending the Barrier Statues, Pachy, Dimensional Barrier and Mjolniir locking because they got mad some people asked why only Ouroboros got banned and not several other problem cards
You're genuinely stupid if you think that's the point.
Fucking ESLs, man.

>>543950268
It's almost as if...idk there's skill involved in the decision making?

>>543949209
Futanari is only good when their cocks have foreskin

>>543949538
Funny way of saying Diapercord. You retards are fucking obsessed

>>543950638
>only know
>because the dominating decks doesn't run them
Wew imagine calling anyone else an ESL with English like this

>>543950638
>retarded ESL doesn't know English and only know "based retard"
>doubling down
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-e&q=%22not+only+you+moved+goalposts%22
>literally one result
Here's a hint my retarded ESL friend, it's "not only DID you MOVE goalposts" not whatever IESLB you uttered.
>hitting a good side card against JUSH meta + Mitsu isn't retarded
This retard is crying that he can't turnskip JUSH or Mitsu when he goes first and gets handtrapped btw lmao.
>Feel free to prove me wrong by showing how many topping decks run these cards, but you won't because the dominating decks doesn't run them.
K9 CRYSTRON LITERALLY WON YCS ANAHEIM OFF MJOLNIR LOCKING
THE TOP 4 ONOMAT RYZEAL HAD MULTIPLE GAMES WHERE IT JUST PROTOS LOCKED
MULTIPLE GAMES WERE JUST TURNSKIPS BECAUSE OF DIMENSIONAL BARRIER YOU STUPID NIGGER

Being 100% honest. Who the fuck actually was using Ouroboros enough to warrant a ban?

>>543950713
>>543950569
>Implying that revealing Habakiri is skillful
>Implying thag fuse from deckslop is skillful

Man, it’s always hilarious when someone wraps up with “retarded ESL” and acts like it’s a mic drop. Is your whole argument just calling everyone who disagrees “retard” or “ESL” and moving on? Show some actual logic if you want to debate. Or just keep malding, it’s fun for everyone else to watch.

>>543950569
>>543950713
EEV is bad into Dracotail and good against Mitsu sometimes
>>543951003
Onomat or Heraldic Ryzeal

>/dng/ doesn't know Ryzeal handrips for 2 via Evilswarm Ouroboros
do you niggers actually play the game

>>543951003
YCS ANAHEIM
Is the entire banlist reason

>>543950970
It's really funny that guy is seriously doubling down on "not only you moved goalposts" and is seriously trying to argue that that's even remotely correct English.
He's also crying that he can't Thrust into Barrier if Yummy, Mitsu or Dracotail activates a handtrap against him when he's going 1st because he can't build a board they can't beat otherwise lol

>>543951003
Ryzeal

>>543951083
Those people are the ones Jesus cannot save because of their pride. They will never make a point.

honestliss
slopzeal
ryuge

>>543951083
If you genuinely wanted to debate you wouldn't do it on an anonymous image board, where people have egos so fragile, the moment they start losing they just either leave or resort to shitposting

>>543951461
Weakliss...
BOUNDLESSBEASTzeal
Ryu-ge.

>>543951109
In my defense I haven't played against a Ryzeal player who used it before, if that's the case then good riddance

I came here to watch people play, not see people flirt with each other all the time.

Yu-Gi-Oh! TCG Local - Genesys Tournament
3rd place: Frank (Kozmo K9)

>>543951206
Not the person you were arguing with but it is pretty obvious you're an ESL. Why would you "doesn't" for a plural? Even this post is littered with grammar issues mate.

Shota Riseheart.

>>543951654
I'm being inflammatory for shitpost reasons, but yes. Ryzeal can consistently rip two cards and like the other anon said, it happened on stream (finals I think) at Anaheim which was just an overall shit look. I assume that and the stink made about it meant Ouro got the axe.

>>543951804
Dark Lady and Izuna pressing each other's chests and call it xyz summon

>>543951804
you can top with anything in genesys

>>543951835
When I say "that guy" I am referring to >>543950638, baka

>>543951924
>Ryzeal can consistently rip two cards and like the other anon said, it happened on stream (finals I think) at Anaheim
Let me guess, Eclipse Twins?

>>543951986
>>543951804
wtf genesys good?

>>543951804
So what's the synergy here? Also why is he playing more ships than pilots?

>>543952180
yah

>>543952180
The ryzeal quick play can also summon ANY xyz and give it a mat.
So it can just revive ouro from the GY to rip another card
Not sure if that was the situation in the finals but its 1 way they can rip 2.

Medius lore
>Gives you a lock to fusion, XYZs, synchro
Albaz lore
>Albaz locks Springans and Swordsoul to level 8 monsters. It makes them play his game.

>>543952243
>So what's the synergy here?
Kozmo has easy access to lv5's so it is kind of a boneless Crystron K9
>Less pilots
No clue there though

>>543912684 (OP)
Why the fuck are people celebrating this, as a blue eyes player, Dimensional Barrier and other floodgates like that are the ONLY way I have to contend and somewhat duel Meta decks at my local starbucks. I lose against every relevant deck but being able to stop one of their game branches (because honestly most just pivot into a different mechanic, the card doesn't even block Links I was arguing that instead it should get ERRATA'D to include all Extra Deck methods).

And now they decide we go from 3 to 0 straight. Even worse, they do so when Triple Tactics is about to become cheap because of being included in the Branded ST, so I never got to even try it.

Yummy, Maliss, and all the meta decks don't rely on our of engine traps to fuck your day, but my BEWD needed it to survive, this is unfair.
>But they can use it against yo-
I don't give a crap, so be it, I was dead anyways. Also I can just pivot into Main deck monsters or a different ED method. You block synchros and I play fusions, xyz, or links, idc.

>>543951924
>>543951109
Looks like you gotta draw three outs instead of one.
Fun and fair.
Zoodiacs are weak.

>>543950569
EEV is not a skillful card; it's a coinflip. When you shotgun it, either they immediately lose or have the searcher on a monster. When you try to hold it, they can just fire the spell you wanted to hold immediately. Especially post side when Duster/Lightning Storm is a possibility.

Ryzeal could handrip 2-3 with Ouroboros using Ouroboros, Eclipse Twins reborn Ouroboros, Plug-In revive Ouroboros again, since Plug-In isn't exactly a consistently ran card.

Heraldic Ryzeal could also handrip 5, because starting with Ext, it could output enough material to make Ouroboros thrice + Plug-In and Eclipse Twins to loop 5.

is there a 1 card synchro 3 that doesn't take up the ns?

>>543952243
the red ship and the shuttle are level 5
that's enough to force k9 into it

>>543952539
This is the same type of retard who thinks Maxx C is good for the game because it keeps meta decks in check

>>543952686
Marshmao

>poketroon champion got raped
>yugioh fixes in the west
we only need a new MR anime and we are so back lmao

>>543952821
meant to ask for genesys, forgot to specify

I really cannot believe there's a small subset of people that will seriously defend Dimensional Barrier because they can't win going first without being able to Thrust for it otherwise

>>543952795
>who thinks Maxx C is good for the game because it keeps meta decks in check
People are also defending Fuwalos, though

>>543952680
Onomatokage also can put it back in the extra to summon again.

>>543952795
Unironically yes. You're not seeing this from the PoV of a thirsting man; I don't care if the stronger deck can use it, it STILL potentially evens the game and gives me hope of winning I'd simply not have if they were banned.
No matter how strong your Tier 1 deck is, even against blue eyes you don't want me easily drawing 10 handtraps. I'd rather have that choice. And if you also get MAXX so be it, you had the victory to begin with if he didn't have Maxx in the game.

>>543952843
Someone got raped?

>>543952539
Sorry sis, but the world winning support was delayed indefinitely for Yubel trans. Better luck next decade.

>>543935539
Nigga wtf you doing?

>>543952985
It was that Wolfey guy.

>>543952919
I didn't have TTT because it's expensive, instead I ran DB at 3 and tried to keep my deck size short so I drew it more often than not.
Just like we all have 3 unserarchable Ashes but someone always opens with it.

>>543935539
is this shit ord I see?

>>543952648
What is EEV?

>>543952985
Wolfey is mad that people would touch his butt when taking pictures with him.

>>543935539
hey its the bozocord

Number of banned cards for each extra deck type (descending):

>Link: 22
>Xyz: 19
>Synchro: 5
>Fusion: 3

(Pendulum aka Honestdulum has zero cards banned)

>>543943958
GOD BLESS THE OCG!

Do Pokemon fans seriously grope fully male Poketubers when taking photos with them?

>>543952686
Terrortop > Taketomborg > Red Eyed Dice is the best I can think up immediately

>>543953265
We should have a Dimensional barrier 2 that works exclusively on Links at 3, fuck it, and give it handtrap potential if your field is empty

Links are problematic

>>543953173
>>543953353

>>543952929
Fuwa has the excuse of only being good going second unlike D. Barrier that helps the going first player even more when going second is already inherently bad in this game.

>>543953265
I have to ask.
What is up with XYZs? It feels like they were this mechanic the OCG thought was more limited than synchros (cause of the material thing) and they built the most insane boss monsters and cheat mechanics for it to compensate. While links were the opposite and they were made so you can easily use any link monster to combo into other link monsters.

Blazing Dominion will have Agent support, trust

>>543953636
Fuwa would have been okay with me if it didn't had the you can use doubles in the same turn

>>543952976
I know people enjoy winning but when a game is decided by an unsearchable uncounterable auto-win card rather than by skill, it just isn’t an enjoyable experience.

>>543953675
My crack theory is that Xyz is the only mechanic designed with 'restrictions' in mind (xyz material) so designers constantly think that it means they can plop any busted effect onto one and it's balanced because you'll only activate the effect once/a limited amount of times.
Arguably it's also the hardest mechanic to make when it comes to certain ranks so they could hide busted cards behind formerly difficult to make ranks like 9 or 6 but when they eventually design a deck that can fart out those ranks easily they start being problems.

>>543953265
>(Pendulum aka Honestdulum has zero cards banned)
They got errata-raped by forcing them into link-cuck-arrows
Way worse then the banlist, at least there's a chance of things coming off the banlist

>>543953726
Did you know that Springans Debuted on Blazing Vortex

>>543953675
The banned Xyz monsters had weird release histories. Some were released at a time when their effect seemed to be reasonable for the investment but they ended up being cancerous when they became easy to summon. Like Rhongo or VFD that nobody cared about for ages but when decks were able to turbo them out they immediately became huge problems.
Xyz monsters also have a lot of super oppressive single-turn stun effects that existed back at a time where losing out on a turn was extremely annoying but not an instant game loss.
Of the 19 banned Xyz monsters, I think 7 of them fall into this category of "they were always broken but very few played them until they found the right strategy" (VFD, Rhongo, Azathot, Diabolosis, Galaxy Tomahawk, Dice). You can arguably add Bahamut Shark here as well.

Generic search cards like Chain or King Imp have been and always will be retardedly overpowered with their only limiting factor being the pool of relevant cards they can grab. I think that Xyz were released at a time where searching was known to be extremely powerful but they didn't realize just how much a problem a search with no restrictions attached to the Extra Deck would be.
7 of the banned Xyz monsters fit into this category of being more or less generic search cards (Dark Matter, Beatrice, King Imp, Chain, Broadbull, Invoker, Zenmaity).

Arise, Dweller, Shock and Zexal and at least Shock and Dweller SORT OF have the excuse that they were printed at a time where a turn skip shouldn't have meant the end of the game. Utopic Zexal might have been before the game ended on turn 1 but he has no excuse when summoning him via the intended mechanic gives you at least 3 turn skips.