Thread 544725382

Halloween Edition
Previous thread: >>544502215

Life is Strange (LiS) is an episodic narrative game from developer Don't Nod (DN). Set in the Pacific Northwest in the town of Arcadia Bay, the player follows the story of Max Caulfield and her seemingly newfound ability to rewind time.

Life is Strange: Before the Storm (BtS) is an episodic narrative game from developer Deck Nine (D9). A prequel set three years before the events of the first LiS. A troubled, isolated sixteen-year old Chloe Price forms an unlikely friendship with Rachel Amber, a popular girl with her own hidden demons.

Life is Strange 2 (LiS2) is an episodic adventure game developed by DN. The game's plot features brothers Sean and Daniel. Sean must make crucial decisions that will lead to different branches in the storyline, while serving as a surrogate parent for Daniel.

Life is Strange: True Colors (TC) is a narrative game from developer D9. Protagonist Alex Chen is a young woman with the astonishing supernatural power. While Alex’s power will lead to moments of great joy, it also brings her into the orbit of violent anger, world-altering sadness, and irrepressible fear.

Life is Strange: Double Exposure (DE) is an episodic adventure game developed by D9, it is the controversial sequel to LiS (2015). The plot focuses on an older Max Caulfield.

Some anons insist on discussing Lost Records, on off topic game that’s only similarity to Life is Strange is having the same devs as LiS and LiS2.

>Steam:
Life is Strange - http://store.steampowered.com/app/319630
Life is Strange: Before the Storm - http://store.steampowered.com/app/554620
Life is Strange 2 - https://store.steampowered.com/app/532210
Life is Strange: True Colors - http://store.steampowered.com/app/936790
Life is Strange: Double Exposure - https://store.steampowered.com/app/1874000

Amberprice won
DE won

DEbros... We won...

>>544725382 (OP)
Lmao, LRfags can’t even bitch that they were excluded from the OP. Nicely done.

Trick or treating with this bitc- I mean witch

>>544732112
Gotta go with treating, lol

>>544726929
they unironically lost.

>>544726929
they ditched this game about as quick as Michel ran off to sell out to another corpo

>>544737212
Still wondering what IP they're going with it. Very grim if it has to be a netflix one.

>>544735736
hella treating

>>544737212
>Michel ran off to sell out to another corpo
For an artist who claims to value creative freedom, he sure does it with impressive consistency

>>544738006
Yup, that'd be pretty grim for real

>>544743357
The second general is just one seething idiot making it for himself. Let him have his fun

>>544741021
How else are they going to recoup their losses from LR. If Netflix bankrolls the whole thing then it's no skin off their backs. Nothing about the deal implies it's been thrust upon them unwillingly however.

>>544745418
Of course not. But this whole sitch just shows again that without corpo backing, "creative freedom" doesn't get you far

>>544745936
I agree, it's one of those uncomfortable truths. It just sucks that every compromise done with corpo backing is a double edged sword.

>>544745936
I don't think it's that clear cut.
A good idea that's developed well can be successful with or without giving up some creative control in exchange for funding, and a bad idea that's developed badly won't be saved by any amount of creative freedom, but having a big publisher change stuff in your game won't necessarily end badly, and a good publisher might be able to save a good idea from poor management in a small studio.
Lost Records just wasn't much of an interesting game, regardless of who paid for its development, and DE is also not an interesting game (probably, I haven't played it), even if the reasons why they're bad are completely different.

>>544741021
>Michel did
More like DontNod did that and Michel had to accept, like it's not really an hard concept to see considering their financial struggles

What does Dispatch’s success mean for Life is Strange? Is the choice based genre back?

Pricefield lives
Rachel Amber is dead and buried
DE is corporate fanfiction slop that killed its studio
You do not care about Life is Strange

>>544749869
Dispatch main gameplay is capeshit management with choices sprinkled in and its propped by Youtubers and streamer VAs, not a sustainable project going foward

The real thread is here, for all the anons who actually care about Life is Strange and do not slurp SE cock:

>>544738575

>>544738575

>>544738575

>anti-Chloe trolls
>acting in bad faith
>know their remarks are frivolous
I don't know what gave rise to this impression, as far as I've seen people dislike Chloe for understandable reasons, she's irresponsible, immature, rash, foul mouthed...
Of course, someone who's not autistic would see her reasons given the life she's had and understand her even if not excuse her, but I don't find it at all hard to believe that people who dislike Chloe are autists in good faith rather than trolls.

>>544749869
Choice based games on the level of TWD and LiS, maybe not. Dispatch clones are more likely to spring up; TV shows under the guise of a VN with very minimal gameplay.

>>544750404
This

>>544750185
Every argument against Chloe I've read in these threads have always been sound in their logic and reasonings. There's a few trolls yes, likely from ones who never played the games. But at the core of the pricefield schizos that attack you for going against their grain is that you're simply not complying to their headcanons/interpretations which there is no right one. The way you played and experienced the game is your own canon and nothing takes away from that.

>>544750102
They even included your favorite non related game, what’s the problem?
>>544750185
Because redditors invaded this board post DE release and they all worship Chloe.

>>544750102
you lost (again).

>>544743357
It’s amazing how triggered the off topic posters get. Their game was even mentioned so no reason to cry this time. You they’ll say “you seethe” to us lmao.

Just ignore the seethe thread

>>544752008
the seethe thread was already sliding off page 10, but some idiot from here bumped it with a 'mods pls delete' post

stop bumping the seethe thread, you stupid fuck

>>544754734
They should’ve saged it. If you report the thread for off topic sometimes mods will take it down. Ridiculous they made another again and this time they don’t even have the excuse LR wasn’t in the OP.

>>544755163
>If you report the thread for off topic sometimes mods will take it down
they don't do it. just stop bumping, it's just one seething anon posting in that thread

>>544755142
If anyone chooses to reply from here, put Sage in the options.

>>544751042
>redditors invaded this board post DE release and they all worship Chloe
which is quite funny, considering the the typical redditor is a balding dude in his 30's

>>544756530
lesbian fetishists

>>544756834
yup

>>544725382 (OP)
>controversial sequel
Idk, the writing dips here and there for obvious reasons, but I wouldn’t call it that controversial. Or do you mean the schizos’ reaction?

>>544759051
It is pretty controversial but that is mostly due to shippers. I didn’t find it well written after the first two episodes but shippers only bitch about Pricefield being dead.

>>544759051
It pretty much killed the franchise as a viable IP and generated brand damage, and writing wise its nothing more than your average spiteful fanfict written by a horny teen who think to be smarter than the original writers, while borrowing heavily from the first game story but with none of the passion or care

>>544751453
>>544756530
>>544756834
>>544759408
>muh shippers
>muh balding uncles from reddit
Which is a funny one given this is 4chan and the average anon often tends to be a balding white dude

>>544759783
you seethe

>>544750660
>Every argument against Chloe I've read in these threads have always been sound in their logic and reasoning
That's not true at all, 80% of the hatred against Chloe is based of on bad faith attacks, people who played the game once and fail at media literacy or just trolls who uses DE existance as an argument

>>544759408
Honestly, everything SE didn’t get their grubby hands on with their rewrite orders turned out fine. And it’s obvious they were short on cash (no clue where it all went), since some local stuff just got left hanging in this game, let alone carried over into the sequel

>>544759917
There's no bigger seether than the ones who keep shilling for a 30 million dollars flop and a studio killer

>>544760169
you seethe

>>544759994
Are people not allowed to dislike a character? I liked Chloe enough but could see why people wouldn’t like her, she could be selfish and irrational at times.

>>544760075
>turned out fine
If you have low standards for writing, sure. But as a supposed direct sequel who you "dont need to play the first game to understand", it fails miserably

>>544760247
the main thing is she's just wrecking Max's life. if you care about Max even a little, you're gonna look at her pretty critically

>>544760247
I'll repost what I've written:

It's fair to dislike Chloe because at first she's brash and impulsive, but another thing is to getting really skin deep and just see her as being that type of person with no chance to growth or change while defending Nathan or David Madsen, even excusing them, despite being actively far worse for everyone around them than Chloe ever is

If you think it's "very important" for you to Chloe being dead in a bathroom at the lowest point of her life, you have issues

>>544760474
t. Max hater

Chloe was growing as a character post LIS1, in 2 we learn she has made peace with David and both her with Max are now trying to move on with the trauma of the storm

>schizo dropped his seethe‑thread and started seething here instead
Kek

>>544759994
The inverse of what you said applies at well. Whenever someone argues for both sides, the pro-chloe crowd often falters because they're unable to view everything in its objectivity. Both sides have their faults but the pro-chloe side is starkly more detached from reality and generally wave away facts that even the original developers themselves said.

>>544760727
All of this wouldn't have happened if you just let the last thread last normally, as it was a rightful follow up to the previous one and shouldn't have been pruned at just 120 posts

>>544760727
because his waifu's getting fucked right here

>>544760919
No one bumped it, there's no one to blame.

>>544760919
Nobody bumped it then I woke up to it being dead. Than a lrfag got mad I didn’t suck its dick in the op and made another thread

>>544761126
he seethes

>>544760837
The reality of the matter is, you argue like there's some sort of objective truth behind it but the reality is more complex and not exactly hard to graps; Max and Chloe are a popular couple BECAUSE of the original game centering around them, and the game strongest emotional moments tied to those two, as opposed to the other male romantic option Warren

LIS1 came in a time which queer relationshisp in media and videogames were still treated with kids gloves and not given enough space to shine. A lot of people really liked Chloe and people at the time rightfully realized that she's a complex character that is worth exploring, and her and Max content was popular and still is

>>544760525
I never defended Nathan and David though or said Chloe being dead was important. All I said was I could understand why people wouldn’t care for Chloe as a character. And unfortunately Chloe dying is an ending, one that half of players chose and is arguably the better written ending of the ending. I do think it’s a sad fate for Chloe to meet but I do understand why people would pick Sacrifice Chloe. I think the point of the game is that neither ending is “right”.

>>544761021
Threads that weren't being bumped enough didn't die like that, and we have DEfags actively getting mad and trying to contact the mod to remove it

>>544761503
Jannies should remove duplicate threads, basic 4chan rule newfag

>>544761503
seek help

>>544761386
>arguably the better written ending
I don't agree with that notion. Bay is an ending that goes against what LIS shows the rule of the world being, as it feels more of a Final Destination type thing. If the game was coherent with its logic, a storm would have still happened as Max sees it before Chloe even get shot in the bathroom, and in the alternative timeline there are still signs of it coming to the town

It has the emotional charge, but falls apart at a logic standpoint given prior rules established. If the game wanted to make this logic happens, then there wouldn't have been any signs of the storm coming with the timeline of wheelchair Chloe and it would be coherent with it

>I think the point of the game is that neither ending is “right”
I agree, and thats why there was no need to have a sequel that tries to respect both endings, when in actuality it respect none of them

>>544761503
>Threads that weren't being bumped enough didn't die like that
That’s exactly what they do. It just fell off page 10 and that’s it
>trying to contact the mod to remove it
To be fair, they reported the thread you made like 3 hours after that

>Never believe that the anti Chloe trolls are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge.
>But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Chloe have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors.
>They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

>>544761913
absolutely delusional

not to mention you've been begging for new content with them for 10 years straight, throwing tantrums whenever the game isn't about them

>>544762601
>Be Deck Nine
>Get a contract with Square Enix to make LiS games
>Make Before the Storm, a prequel centered around the popular character of Chloe Price and her relationship with Rachel Amber as told by the first game
>It respect Chloe's character, with even a bonus DLC episode with her and Max as kids
>Successful enough to grant them other works and grow as a company
>Make Double Exposure, a sequel long requested by Square to cash on Max's nostalgia
>Shat on Chloe's character development and her bond with Max, trying to replace her with D9's shallow OCs
>It bombs so badly it starts a domino effect leading to D9's downfall as a gaming company
>still contractually obligated to push out a DE2 despite crunch, lack of manpower, constant layoffs and the looming shutdown of the company

>>544762753
I did not ask for Double Exposure or that horrid story, do not confuse me for someone else. I was perfectly fine with the idea of pursuing a TC style anthology series with new characters and places desu

>>544761380
The original argument/discussion is not about them being a couple. They are and are not a couple, however.

>>544761913
The game's logic when it comes to the storm is coherent. There's no actual reason for the storm. You can view it in many ways such as Max associating her guilt for abandoning Chloe as the reason why but it's just one interpretation for it. BTS explored Chloe respectfully imo but I agree, more could be said. LiS 2 just gave us a template of what she and Max could become, nothing more.
>when in actuality it respect none of them
It respected both endings.

>>544761913
I personally feel Bay was better written because it felt more “complete”. Bae is just Chloe and Max driving for two minutes.

>>544763156
>The game's logic when it comes to the storm is coherent
If it was coherent, there wouldn't have been that many discussions on it when Episode 5 was out and people were arguing how silly the whole binary outcome was, don't make revisionist history

>There's no actual reason for the storm
The implication is more on Max's powers being connect as the more she rewind the more the storm and its signs gets stronger but its kept very vague and IMO a bit confusing

>It respected both endings
If you are blind maybe, but it did not. Max should be two completely different individuals following the endings, not ending up in the same place

>LiS 2 just gave us a template of what she and Max could become
It was a pretty solid cameo by the original writers on how they respected both Chloe and Max's characters without betraying the player choice and with minimal appareance. This is expecially true in LIS2 when the whole choice is all on the player as Sean bond and his relationship with Daniel lead to four different endings, with two of them having them being reunited as a strong bond

>>544762753
>pricefieldfags beg for max sequel
>chloe and max break up/aren’t friends anymore if you chose bae
>not like that!!! max needs chloe to be a character!!!

>>544763612
>longer = better
I disagree on that logic, as I think the ending differences comes off as deliberate. One ending is a conclusive arc, the other is open for more adventures and exploration of the two, which makes it harder to follow up
Of course, it was never meant to have a sequel aside from what fans would have been able to create

>>544763945
I like how DEfags can't understand the simple concept of "respecting player choices" and past games, when the original creators made it clear >>544763873 that Max and Chloe would have stayed together and helped each other after the storm

>>544763156
>LiS 2 just gave us a template of what she and Max could become
>She's not happy because of the burden, that's why she's not smiling on our version of that photo...
Yeah, yeah, LiS2 gave us a template

>>544764338
>respecting player choices
The thing is, when you talk about “respecting the choices,” you’re really just talking about the headcanon you made up about what happens after your ending. Neither the first game nor the second, as Michel explained, ever promised that.

>>544763873
>If it was coherent, there wouldn't have been that many discussions on it when Episode 5 was out and people were arguing how silly the whole binary outcome was, don't make revisionist history
Not revisionist history, the game actively tells you Max could or could not be the reason for the storm. It's on the people back then that they couldn't comprehend what happened.

>If you are blind maybe, but it did not. Max should be two completely different individuals following the endings, not ending up in the same place
Again, it respected both endings; it respected your choice. Anything that came after is irrelevant when it concerns that argument.

>>544764338
I don’t know what you expected in a sequel, it was nearly impossible to actual do fleshed out endings for both arcs unless they made two separate games

>>544764384
Quote the full tweet instead of cherrypicking

>>544765552
i got this

Max jumping between bae and bay timelines was a perfect premise for a sequel, such a shame

>>544765839
We could still have it yet!

>>544765839
>We never wanted a sequel with them, in the first place
>Max jumping between bae and bay timelines was a perfect premise for a sequel
Kek

>>544764807
>headcannon
>SE reposted multiple times fanarts of Max and Chloe as a couple through the official LIS account
>Celebrated last year pride with pic related
>Made a promoted ice cream event with Max and Chloe
>all of this knowing what they were doing with DE

I guess you would have to explain to me what's the point of SE strategy

>>544766484
Oh, I can explain that real quick. They ran a focus group. Players outside the bubble told them who they want in the game and who they don’t

>>544766402
They hated the comics for it

>>544766969
And it went so well for them.

>>544765790
Mixing the original tweet with fanfiction written by executives is a stupid move, because you make it seem like Michel is fine with DE when he even admitted he couldn't recognize Max when the trailer popped out and stated multiple times he never wanted a direct sequel to Life is Strange 1.

All his tweets are how he would think about a sequel, as the inspiration he would take, but its fair to assume he would ultimately give the choice to the player rather than remove it, as it was the same for Lost Records, LiS1 and LiS2

Max's DE dialogue is a rip off of Chloe from LIS1, when she compares her experience with Max in one week she was better than she was with Rachel Amber, but nice try

>>544767357
>because you make it seem like Michel is fine with DE when he even admitted he couldn't recognize Max when the trailer popped out and stated multiple times he never wanted a direct sequel to Life is Strange 1.
He's on the record as well saying he's fine with continuations as well; anyone's canon is canon. SE's benefits over the others is that they own the property and have money to produce games with it.

>>544766969
If that's the case why did DE sold so bad?
Either that didn't happen, or the focus group was designed poorly and without really having their target audience participate.
I reckon the first is more likely, I must have read it in at least two different places that Square execs hated Chloe's character with a passion, so if they produced a sequel it stands to reason that they would not have her in the game they were producing.

>>544766969
You are defending a multibillion dollar company idiotic choices who have turned the franchise into slop. And not even in a good manner, because that's what people who went to the focus group actually said:

>Just to say I went to the London focus group last December and I'd say more than half of us were critical of DE so I don't think the intention is to filter out people who don't like DE and only select players who will say positive things

"players outside the bubble" told them DE was ass in many ways, if they haven't figure it out already the issue on them not people who ship Max and Chloe

>>544767813
It's more petty than that, according to Ladydev one exec wrote an angry letter saying that Ashly Burch talked shit about Before the Storm (she did not, her AMA is still there and she praise the game) and thus they wanted to recast her, while another old letter they weren't happy with Rihanna Devries and didn't want to recast her as a major characters

All of this was delusional, but I do believe point to be realistic as well. It doesn't seem like those focus groups have improved or changed future LIS projects for the better

>>544767289
This game was doomed either way. All that talk about it selling millions if it had Pricefield is just laughable
>>544767357
>Mixing the original tweet with fanfiction written by executives is a stupid move
NTA, but that screenshot shows Michel and SE aren’t really that far apart on how it would’ve turned out
>he even admitted he couldn't recognize Max when the trailer popped out
You mean he didn’t recognize her by looks? Then he should’ve played the remasters. Her model’s literally built on the remaster rig

>focus group was designed poorly and without really having their target audience participate

All focus groups are ultimately worthless if there's no strong creative vision or someone who know what is doing and its capable of delivering it. SE is full of spineless money counters who cannot understand any artistic merit or creative vision, and should have been booted off years ago

>>544767813
>I must have read it in at least two different places that Square execs hated Chloe's character with a passion
It’s kinda like how paranoid schizos explain that the whole world is against them.
Anon, if she had shown good favorability in the focus groups, she’d be in the game

>>544768427
>but that screenshot shows Michel and SE aren’t really that far apart on how it would’ve turned out
You are making your own headcannon, which is funny given some comment prior. Michel is essentially saying that in his view, Max and Chloe would struggle but still remain togehter, as the trauma will be still a part of their lives but as LIS2 show they would find a way to navigate it. And in the second tweet, he explains how he would write that specific story if he had to, because he's a creative guy and he believe he would have to sit down and think what he would write for that type of story, but ultimately he said many times he never wanted a sequel and LIS1 story was over and done, which is not that hard to graps.

Bad faith and DEfags seems to go hand in hand tho not surprised media literacy is not your strongest suit

>>544766484
Feeding shippers so much was a mistake. As well as making to a sequel with a game that was never meant to have one. I blame D9 for doing it as a cash grab but fans begging for a sequel should’ve been careful what they wished for.

>>544768839
>leave this multi billion company and their focus group alone!
Anon, you are shill for big corpos, bet you like when EA - Activision - Ubisoft - Bethesda fuck you in the ass with their greed based decisions

>>544769402
You are defending a multi billion dollar company that fucked up and never took accountability, you aren't a sane individual

>>544769631
>defending
>in my post I literally say I blame D9
ESL or conveniently ignoring things to support a narrative?

>>544767269
Because they only want a sequel that’s about Chloe and Max scissoring for 10 hours

>>544769334
>You are making your own headcannon

>Michel said she’s unhappy in his tweet
>SE said she’s unhappy in their game
Oh yeah, totally just my headcanon

>would struggle but still remain togehter
Except he also gave a pretty sad reason for it, which you’re all conveniently ignoring
>in the second tweet, he explains how he would write that specific story if he had to
After that second tweet it’s pretty clear you’d rather have SE making the sequel than him. That would’ve been even worse
>he's a creative guy
Mhm, probably why all his games, except LiS1, are total garbage

>>544767269
I like the first four issues, but then the comic turned into a Amberprice AU with little stakes and I just stopped reading because it was not interesting nor compelling. I'm all about drama and exploration of what happeend post Bae, I do not think the comics were that good

>>544765790
>havent been this happy in years
Oh, without a doubt

>>544771070
based kissu

>>544770913
Michel's says she's sad because of trauma but she and Chloe still move on together, as shown in LIS2, because they are all they have, and they help each other. And based on his past games, he will clearly give the player ultimate choice, like for Daniel or Nora and Autumn in Lost Records, while SE will not

You don't give a shit to understand beyond your narrow view, and you clearly do not care about this franchise, and you use nitpicking when its convenient because you wouldn't be able to hold scrutiny. Fuck off from here

>>544771070
>I'm defending copypasted writing
>I'm defeniding the slop made by a big corporation greed
>I'm fine with D9 lowering standards as long as I can own pissfielders
This kiss killed the comapny fired all its writers

>>544771721
Fixed

>>544770789
That's hot though

>>544770913
>After that second tweet it’s pretty clear you’d rather have SE making the sequel than him. That would’ve been even worse
What D9 did is tame compared to what Michel has mind. Imagine the nuclear fallout

>>544771721
>This kiss
This kiss made Max wet and made you seethe

>>544771961
Michel never wanted to make a direct sequel and he stated that many times. All he did was saying that he would have to sit down and think about what kind of story would he had wrote, with the themes gameplay and choices within it, which is fair and not the headcannon you are imagining

>>544771961
Michel’s used to it by now, especially after the meltdown the crazed shippers gave him post‑LiS2

>>544771784
>>544772029
>I HECKING LOVE DEFENDING CORPO SLOP

>>544771070
Who offered tongue first?

>>544772494
Chloe

>>544772205
Oh, brother. Please read and comprehend what's actually being talked about.

>>544772314
Revisionist history, 2 had a lot of racists dudes who were pissed at getting called out in the game

>>544772686
I did, and I'm tired to see Michel's posts getting used as a confirmation of SE's retarded decisions

>>544772494
Max of course. She's relentless in this game

>>544768427
>Michel
>I don't even recognize my own characters
>Anon
>he would have likely written something similar enough
Huh.>>544768839
That has little in common with how people with paranoid symptoms describe their experience (t. doc in Psychology).
But even if I'm mistaken about that, the question remains: if Chloe isn't in DE because focus groups and playtests showed people didn't want her in the game, and if the game was developed according to what tested better, why did DE sold so poorly?
It's the direct sequel of a game that sold more than 20M copies over 10 years, so by all expectations it should have sold a lot better than it did
The two most frequent complaints I read about it are that the last two episodes are badly written and that Chloe's not in it.
Now you might argue it's all delusional shippers, but even if that was the case, seeing how popular Pricefield is it seems short sighted not to consider that and add something in the game to AT LEAST placate shippers.

>>544775119
Let's not forget that Square pandered to the Pricefield crowd when it was convenient to them, so if they did not want to continue that way... maybe they shouldn't have brought back Max in the first place? Crazy idea I know

>>544775119
>why did DE sold so poorly?
While I think angry shippers likely contributed, the franchise has been on a downward decline in the sales since the first game. BtS didn’t even crack a million sales despite it coming directly after LiS. Then LiS2 and TC each which sold much lower than its predecessors. LiS was lightning in a bottle and instead of letting it, the devs kept milking it dry for money. I think LiS2 actually could’ve done better without the franchise name attached to it.

>>544775119
>why did DE sold so poorly?

Because it dropped at the absolute worst time for this kind of genre. Because the price was way too high for what you actually get. Because it’s blatantly missing half the content so the corp could cash in. Because the marketing before release was a total mess with no clear audience. There are plenty of reasons

>>544773370
>billion dollar company please give me out of character honry Max I will slop down your feet

>>544775912
And on top of that, it was a poorly written story that paid little care for its predecessor.

And honestly, I really have no idea how after this mess they can even sell a DE2 even if the price was lower

>>544775920
you seethe

>>544776091
They'll shove MUH CHLOE in it and it will sell billions

>>544773370
Oh, my poor girl who's way too obvious.
Also, hope she's into squirting

>>544776290
Weren't you saying before that Pricefield wouldn't have saved DE from flop?

>>544776092
And you guzzle slop while defending the poor billion dollars company

Revisiting the Michel tweets and damn I don't think the fandom would have enjoyed him going full-blown 'Blue Valentine' or 'Broken Circle Breakdown' with Max and Chloe. Those movies are two explorations of relationships collapsing in truly miserable ways. And even if Michel offered a chance for Max and Chloe to stay together, imagine a scene like this, but between Max and Chloe instead. Would fans really want to see them resenting each other and struggling to care for one another? https://youtu.be/cBvFsIF5GNE?si=umpqTLG2rC2mXlJ4

Michel likes the player to feel things. But he often doesn't want you to feel good. Dude likes his misery-porn at times.

Every game in this franchise is shit but the first one. You all are arguing over nothing

>>544777102
That tweet always goes over their heads

>>544777102
exactly why they shouldn't even open their mouths with all that 'but muh Michel tweeted that' crap

>>544777102
>they are all they have
That sounds unhealthy and codependent

>>544777578
As much as Michel loves misery porn, he would still give the player choices to fix things up. LIS2 and Lost Records relationship mechanics are literally on the player choices, leading to different outcomes so I have no doubt when he says he would have to think about it and write it down he will have to consider that he's not going to be a 100% reenacting of Blue Valentine but players will also need to have a choice in what they think of the relationship and how it ends up. If they can get four different endings with the brothers going separate ways and the other staying together, then I don't see why he wouldn't do the same for a Max and Chloe sequel.

For a tragedy pilled frenchman, he understands that you can't just half ass a break up story with the filmsiest of reasons and pretend people will be ok with zero effort put in, you need a bit of build up and bones to it

>>544781503
Michel never wanted a Max and Chloe sequel in the first place, what he's saying is how he would consider doing it

>>544782635
That's your headcanon

>>544777102
>And even if Michel offered a chance for Max and Chloe to stay together, imagine a scene like this, but between Max and Chloe instead. Would fans really want to see them resenting each other and struggling to care for one another
>Michel likes the player to feel things. But he often doesn't want you to feel good
That's the whole reason LIS worked out the way it did. And as long as he would make sure that choices made in LIS1 are still in the control of the player, and that we can influence our relationship to go south or stay together, it would have been not too terrible. At least Max and Chloe would still feel like the characters they are and not a caricature written by Riverdale tier hacks

>>544782635
This

>>544783660
>it reinforce my headcannon so it must be it

>the pitch for True Colors 2 according to Square Enix
Alex and Steph would totally break up, as we know sometimes relationship don't work out and it's totally realistic it could happen, regardless of what you have choosen in the previous game. Anyway, we added two brand new shallow LI interest that are presented to you with barely any character development right after you say you were broke up, have fun with it

>>544783287
Just like PF being romantically involved

>>544784669
>noooo you can't have them being romantically involved

>>544782635
>they are all they have
That line of his sounds downright hopeless, almost like “they don’t know anything else in life, for a really sad reason”

>>544784797
Did I say that? I just said it’s a headcanon as it’s up to the player on how Chloe and Max’s relationship is

>>544783123
Agreed that he'd likely provide an option to keep Max and Chloe together. But here's another scene from Blue Valentine where it's genuinely hard to keep watching it because the fighting between the characters feels so painful and you feel kinda gross when you're done seeing it. https://youtu.be/RaI_IldmkFY?si=_6v94VTsaS7VVFaY

Same holds true of Broken Circle Breakdown. It's a tough watch. That's the thing about Michel. When he says he'd want scenes of Max and Chloe 'trying to make it work while being hard', those scenes may genuinely be difficult to watch for the fan-base. Dude doesn't sugar-coat the tough stuff.

And if he writes a 'parting ways' ending as one of 4 ending options for Max and Chloe that would become a genuine canonical option. I think that's why he insisted he didn't want to continue Max and Chloe's story. As a storyteller, he'd want to make certain elements heart-wrenching or uncomfortable and he knows some fans wouldn't vibe with that.

>>544786629
Therein lies the problem with that. Nevermind the illusion of choice the players will be given, most fans will take issue with the writing; how can their "relationship" deteriorate to such a degree? Why are they acting like this? What went wrong? etc. If he bases the heartbreak on those two movies, nothing good will come of it, maybe hollowing the two if they stay together. He can write the complete opposite too but I think he prefers his characters and relationships to be more grounded.

>in the original game Chloe is (likely) on Fluoxetine (aka Prozac)
Huh...

>>544786629
I respect that he understand his french tragedy porn sense might be too much and prefer to let the audience have their own way, he has class in doing so. And desu, if it was like that I would necessarily like it, but ultimately I would respect the full vision than D9 half assing it in the most spiteful and mediocre way possible

>>544789437
That's why he says he would have to sit down and figure it out, unlike hacks like Aysha

>>544785486
with what he said above, that line's literally saying just that

>>544791909
what's she got to do with it? she only wrote the dialogue for two characters in that game

>>544790840
Rachel looks like she’s about to go to town on the Chloussy

Who's more likely to show up in DE2, Victoria or Alex?

>>544794235
I hope Alex

>>544791909
Not the point. Fans will take issue with the writing regardless of who writes it. Just because Michel wrote it doesn't magically make it better. If DE is the same as it is but he's the one who wrote it, would you accept it at face value? Most likely no, right? And the "he wouldn't have written it this way" argument doesn't count.

>>544794703
you know how it works with them. if Michel had written DE as it is, not about Pricefield, they'd be seething, just like with LiS2. but if the next title was written by, say, Aysha, and it was about Pricefield, they'd totally accept it at face value and go around calling it 'soul'

>>544794235
Alex if they go with the wannabe Avengers plot.

>>544794235
None of those two

>>544795714
Unfortunately, I think so too. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a reassessment of DE down the line if the next game is "worse" . Much like LiS 2 recently which was hated for the wrong (debatable) reasons too.

>>544795714
You are all spitefully down with this pricefield hatred and for what? The franchise is in the worst state has ever been, DE is a huge turd and flop and Deck9 more like Dead9, DE2 will flop on arrival and the new books too, maybe theres a chance the show will be good but no reason to believe it will be a success

>>544796309
Who then? They need some selling points.
I'd like to see Kate but it's even less likely.

>>544796345
LiS2 actually improved on some aspects of LiS1 like the choice and consequences, and even at the time I thought it was great of them to do so even if I didn't like the escort mission format
DE1 doesn't improve on jack shit except mocap but for other aspects is a deep step down, and DE2 seems like it won't change much, the people who are trying to rehabilitate this wreck are doing out of revisionism

>>544798297
Chloe is a rare butch bottom. Max is so lucky.

>>544796893
There's not going to be any past characters and you are deeply delusional if you think otherwise

>>544800275
looks like it

>>544800050
Chloe gives switch vibes desu

>>544796345
it’s already kinda started. someone did ask for the anniversary what people think about the game. lots of takes, most of them like 'this and that was good, but that part could’ve been better,' etc. any real drama is stuck in fandom corners, it's not spilling over into the general public anymore, at least not in that kind of volume

>>544797004
NTA but I will always have respect for LiS2 as it’s the only game where your choices actually matter and doesn’t have binary endings.

>>544803563

One of my favourite pieces of fanart. Wish there were versions of this for all the possible kisses.

>>544804190
The only thing Chloe's topping is her ice cream with sprinkles. (this is my own headcanon, and I'll act civilly towards anybody who has a different opinion)

>>544796238
they won't go with it

>>544768785
yea but anon, you are forgetting who got Izzy her job...

>>544810038
I think she was a bottom with Rachel but switched with Max

>>544811468
here were go again

>>544800275
>There's not going to be any past characters
That's a good thing, if you think about it

Was Max a virgin in LiS

>>544811483
Seeing how Chloe acts tough but gets pretty vulnerable and emotionally needy, I see it more like, she'd play tough and be the top a few times, then act coy when Max offers to top for once, and after that make up some bullshit excuse for Max having to top every time.

>>544818938
No

>>544818938
Very obviously.
I don't remember exactly what it is, but in the ep.1 she makes a comment, maybe in her journal, about not being experienced/popular with guys, and she keeps saying she feels like a dork, she could never be a cheerleader, she could never pull off this or that hot outfit...

>>544819867
Not being popular with guys doesn't mean she ain't doing… other things

>>544821815
This

>>544806738
You are deeply overstimating the reassestment over DE desu

>>544811483
Rachel only gave herself to Frank and Jefferson

>>544826628
They probably fucked at least once before that, no way they never had sex

>>544826719
That was a one sided relationship anon, Rachel teased Chloe while she was getting backshots in Frank's van

>>544832612
Kek
She always wanted some

Chloe tasting Frank’s cum when she went down on Rachel

>>544834843
How would she know how Frank's cum taste unless...

>>544806738
pretty sure it was adnan who posted it

>>544826493
no one says about reassestment, but you can tell the reaction's starting to shift a bit

>>544837486
How do you think she paid for drugs

>>544844296
That's a lot of drugs!

>>544849085
It's a lot of cum!

>>544855894
Bean flavored cum

>>544858164
Kek

>>544837370
We were robbed

>>544821815
I don't think there's anything suggesting she's doing anything with anyone else.
In BtS Chloe writes she masturbates, but there's nothing nearly as explicit in the original game.
>>544826628
Based on BtS and the fact that they can kiss it's quite plausible she had long, passionate and fulfilling sex with Chloe.
>>544844296
Frank gave Chloe a loan, I like to think they were friendly enough with each other that Frank didn't think to take advantage of her like that.

>>544865912
>Frank gave Chloe a loan, I like to think they were friendly enough with each other that Frank didn't think to take advantage of her like that.
Maybe BTS Frank. LiS Frank is a different guy.

>can't even reference or promote their newest game for Halloween
kek

>>544798297
>>544804190
This. It's clear that Rachel topped Chloe, but Chloe can be both the a submissive top and a regular bottom with Max

>>544870806
Their newest game's in playtest right now, way too early to promote it

>seethe thread died again
Lmao

>>544871572
Shut up, Bayster/Amberturd/DEfender.
SHUT UP!

>>544873215
you seethe

>>544871464
You mean their new flop? If last time more than half partecipants said DE was ass and did not like what was shown, I don't exactly expect them to change opinions

I've never understood the massive insistence on which those three anons push for DE
the game killed Deck Nine as a gaming studio and we have now their corpse trying to push out a contractual sequel
There's only negative word of mouth and another surprise marketing campaign is not going to cut it
not to mention it's going to be a shitshow of poor design, writing and bugs that are going to be barely fixed as D9 fires their last devs
Why so much insistance on defending the indifensible?

>>544873416
I SEETHE

>>544875290
They're just trolling, they don't actually give a shit.

>>544870205
Frank did lend Chloe 3k dollars closer to the events of LiS than BtS and he demands them back, I don't think he would have lent her any money if they didn't at least have a decent relationship, and if he was used to getting paid in sex he'd be demanding that instead of the money.
>>544870979
Can you call her a switch if she's the sub regardless of whatever position she's in?
I wouldn't.

>>544881461
Kind of feels like Rachel persuaded him to lend the money as a favor

>>544881461
I feel like Max is more of a sub than Chloe. But Chloe enjoys how awkward Max gets when she's forced to be the one topping

>>544794235
you should schizo stalk Erika, shes deck nine HR nowadays and mocapped Safi!Max in DE

>>544884703
>mocapped Safi!Max in DE
Only a few small scenes or when they needed an extra actor. Don’t mislead people

>>544884703
I don't think Erika has much to do with the HR of D9, she can do her own acting jobs and she will survive even if D9 falls down

>>544885167
>Don't mislead people
no Mazuu, YOU SHOULDN'T MISLEAD PEOPLE!

>Erika Mori as Maria, Okiri and Masterson in The Expanse
>https://www.instagram.com/p/C0c4A-XL1qE/?img_index=1
>https://youtu.be/_5e3M9WxjvE?si=DYspQYMSw37hR1OI&t=81


She's more involved than you hide her role to be dumbass.

>>544885869
Nice ai photo, can you send me the Stauder ai lora model?

>>544885869
She's dating D9 mocap guy, not that big of a deal really.

>>544886408
You mean Zachary Andrews?

>>544886408
she learned from the best (Izzy)

>>544887090
here we go again

>>544886575
Yup. If you were wondering why he was at the signing and panels with the LiS actors.

Shh.

Next game from Montreal leaked

>>544883208
I feel like Rachel and Max would be jealous of each other

>>544885869
>no Mazuu
Jesus, you're even dumber than him, anon.

Also, thanks for reposting the link I was the one who dropped here back in March. You could've at least posted the other mocap vids too, the ones showing Hannah doing both Maxes and a male actor doing the action scenes. They're on youtube as well, not even unlisted

>>544901254
I feel like Max would be mostly interested in Chloe. Rachel wouldn't be a as emotionally invested as the other two (as evident by her sleeping with Frank while Chloe is head over heels for Rachel) but would find it cute to hook her two subs up with each other.

>>544890143
Both baysters, by the way

>>544901254
Max might be jealous of Rachel, but Rachel would be glad her lesbo bestie had a real girlfriend.

>>544904956
Based

Rachel would be the top dom

>>544901670
saw that too, the dude did the cliff fall scene

>>544883208
Max is a service top and Chloe is a verse bottom. This is obvious to anyone who pays attention.

>>544906850
That’s why she had Chloe so whipped

>>544905183
Rachel still hit it first

Rachel would do her utmost to get rid of Max, and end up being told to get fucked.

Deck9 concentrating on what matters.
Happy Birthday Eleanor.

>>544943000
And what do you think actually matters, clown?
Happy Birthday Eleanor

>>544943000
Why bother? She can't even remember it's her birthday.
(love her)

>>544943000
GILF

>>544890143
When the fuck was this taken?

>>544943000
That underpaid intern has to do something despite knowing D9 is working on the clock knowing he will be laid out next year

How can D9 have "upcoming in-house projects"? (latest laid off dev's resume)

>>544943000
Based

>>544947849
When making Farewell

>>544947785
Ms. Grant > Eleanor

>>544947785
>>544965705
Claire's the all-timer GILF

>>544971992
Based

>>544971992
Kek

>>544971992
lmao

Who is your Everyday Hero, /lisg/?

>>544904956
>11/02/25(Sun)02:27:16
Kek, true

I'm at the end of ep.2 I my second playthrough and I'm realizing I really was blinded by love, Chloe is a lot more selfish, impulsive and bitchy than I remember.
I also remember her saying "hella" a lot more.

>>544996738
She only says hella in the bathroom up to that point if I remember right then says it again at the junkyard? I should do a replay too and do a hella counter lmao

>>544996738
I've never felt like Chloe was that selfish upon replaying the game, but most of that is because she's very verbally loaded and in your face. And of course, she believes that everyone that might have been helpful to her has abandoned her trust, as Joyce remarried fast into David and tried to hold a family together when she doesn't really had enough time to care for Chloe due to working at the diner, him being the paranoid abuser that he is, Rachel disappearing and Nathan and Frank... I'll be honest, I'll be a little bit selfish too as a way to be wary of other people

>>545001662
>everyone that might have been helpful to her
Helpful with what, lol?
>the paranoid abuser that he is
Jesus...

>>545001662
She shuts everyone out because she's using her father's death as an excuse for her behaviour. It's not that complicated.

>>545002741
Everyone gave up on her the moment she turned difficult and stopped trying to help her only to let her self destruct. From her school to her fucking mom. I don't care how annoying you might be, you don't give up on your family.

>>545002231
If you think it's okay to put surveillance camera everywhere in your house and slap your daughter, you might be a paranoid abuser too.

>>545002878
It's not that hard to grasp, but you have to remember those people who have taken over the general do not understand nor care about Life is Strange, hence they end up saying the worst possible takes on everything

>slap your daughter
It's also implied by the conversation and if Max tells about Joyce this is not the first time David was hand off on Chloe, and she almost tries to excuse it as a part of his character

>>545002878
>slap your daughte
Well, choose wisely then

>>545002849
She literally made insensitive comments about Kate almost killing herself because “Kate isn’t the only person with problems” and made it all about her and her issues

>>545002849
It goes both ways anon. If the person you're trying to help refuses it every time, there's only so much you can do and try even if you have the patience of a saint. Some people don't want the help, some are aware that they do need it but they're too set in their ways to actually accept any. It's not even a case of wounded pride in Chloe, it's quite literally her justifying her behaviour because of her perpetual "grief".

>>545010427
For the phone, she didn't know about Kate's trouble.
The second time, it was soon after she discovered Rachel was lying to her and was fucking with Frank.
There's a context and it's not like she said that directly to Kate. Do you always say intelligent things when you're angry?
And she apologizes to Max, twice.

So yes, she says stupid things but she also grows as a person thanks to Max. Max is basically her moral compass.

>>545013165
Yeah, it's so easy. I wonder why so many people go to therapy.

>>545013872
You keep making excuses for all her behavior instead of acknowledging Chloe has faults

>>545014864
They are literally aknowledging her behaviour you retard

>>545013165
Chloe does slowly improve with the help of Max through the game, she listen to her and actually regains a sense of balance. There are much worses cases than Chloe, and I'd say that Nathan of all people fit that description more than Chloe does

>>545014864
Uh, no? Of course she has flaws. She's a human being. That's what make her a believable and such a strong character.
You also meet her for five days in the worst period of her life and while they're after a serial killer and time travel shit. And during those days, she makes bad choices, says stupid things but also shows signs that she could be better, that Max brings the best out of her. She's the one who pushes Max to break out of her shell, she encourages her to persue her dreams.
Chloe isn't all white or all black.

Maybe you just lack the empathy to understand the suffering of a complex 19 years old girl.

>>545015570
One of the problems they both had was they were surrounded by enablers and I think Rachel was the biggest one of them all. They're in the same boat where they would improve if they got the help they needed, unfortunately Nathan got a Jefferson instead of a Max.

>>545015768
Funny reading you excuse‑clowns.
Look around — in real life you’d keep people like that far away from you, not feed yourself crap about them just having a “bad day.” Or five bad days

>>545015768
You’re missing the point, you make constant excuses instead of acknowledging Chloe isn’t a perfect angel. Chloe has a hard life but it doesn’t mean she has to be an asshole to everyone

>>545017556
Also funny to read your hate filled posts.
I sure wouldn't want someone like you near me.
I believe Chloe can be a better person, you don't. Different cultures and philosophy I guess.

>>545019159
>instead of acknowledging Chloe isn’t a perfect angel

>Of course she has flaws
>she makes bad choices
>says stupid things
>Chloe isn't all white or all black

>>545020039
Stop replying to these retards. They don't actually want a discussion, they want to make you mad.

>>545019581
You don’t know me, anon. Or the “philosophy” I follow, or don’t. This was my first post today, I just dropped in and read all these excuse posts. But you’ve been writing the same stuff for 10 years. And all of it about a character who was deliberately written as not a very good person. That’s exactly why all these excuses are funny

>>545015921
Nathan likely had some serious mental health issues and his father being a piece of shit, Jefferson only build upon what was already there

>>545023662
>"you don't know me"
>assumes the other anon is the same person who has been in /lisg/ since its creation
>gets mad
Get a grip on where you are

>>545024928
they were talking about all the pricefags, same recycled takes for a whole decade. jesus, your brainpower is basically zero

>>545026937
touch grass please

>>545030453
You seethe

It's all incels that has taken uricksaladbar's video to be gospel. They want women to be timid and awkward like Max & Kate. So they get triggered when they see assertive women like Chloe, Rachel & Victoria

>>545032643
They absolutely are, you can see how they only see women as a sexual object to goon at, rather than their character

>>545032643
>>545033464

>>545038034
Kek

is that reddit unc?

>>544998760
She says it a few times, but just a few.
>Wrong, you got hella cash.
What an entrance...
>>545001662
>take the blame for her joint with David
>hell yeah Max we really showed that guy, fuck him, you're so cool
>be at the diner in no more than 40 minutes I'm fucking hungry don't be late or I'll starve
>ffwd 60 minutes
>yo Max I'm late just grab a seat and I'll reach you asap
>I got this power but I don't even know if it's gonna last
>hell yeah Max let's go play with it
>wait my troubled friend from school is calling me
>oh so you already found a new best friend? why don't you go hang out with her and let me down like absolutely everyone in my life instead
>I'm not going to shoot a guy
>good fucking job for letting that asshole take my gun Max
That plus the meds in her bathroom feel like the writer had read about borderline personality disorder but not in depth.
>it's a defense mechanism
It might be, as in, I'll shut out everybody who seems like they might leave me, if I don't put any trust in them they won't let me down.
And she did have a hard life, but whatever the reason she does act selfish, impulsive and bitchy.
>>545002741
Where does she say "I'm acting this way because my father died?"
She says a few times that when her father dies and Max left she only had Rachel, but I don't remember ever chalking up her behavior to that.
She might use excuses or selfish reasons, e.g. I stole this gun because I need to protect myself and men are all predators, but her father is always left out.
>>545002849
How did her mother give up on her?
In BtS she kept trying to help her and support her despite her questionable choices, and in LiS I don't remember seeing anything that suggests she stopped trying.

>>545017556
That's a fair point, many people would avoid Chloe on the basis of how she behaves, and they'd have good reason to do so since she does act selfish and bitchy, but as players we get to know she behaves like that because she's had a hard life.
Certainly harder than most people in the first world.
Imagine that: someone you see acting selfishly, recklessly, bitchy, ..., might be doing so because they had a hard life, or just a shit day, or because they're stressed out for a good reason.
It's up to you to choose whether to consider that possibility and give them the benefit of the doubt, or to take their actions as their whole self and avoid them altogether.

>>545052695
As they say - bad person

>>545053705
Oh sure, criminals get a free pass too if they’ve got a good enough reason.
We judge people by what they do, not by their sob stories, anon

>>545055276
>if we acknowledge people's feelings and be kind to them despite their questionable actions we'll have to let criminals go free provided they had a hard enough life
I hope your post is largely motivated by a desire to look and feel coherent or to win an argument.
If someone kills another human being because they had a hard life they might be marginally more excusable than someone who kills another human being for money, but the fact remains that they've killed a human being and the law will have to be applied regardless of their circumstances, and this has nothing to do with my post.

As I wrote before, many people would avoid Chloe on the basis of how she behaves, and they'd have good reason to do so since she does act selfish and bitchy, so I'm not discounting the fact that """we""" judge people by what they do - more to the point, it's a well known fat that """we""" do: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_attribution_error
The point about Chloe, and about any random person who behaves in a way you disagree with, is that it would be naive and rash to judge her moral qualities based on her actions alone (which everybody up to this point has agreed to be questionable/irresponsible/bitchy/...), because we have the benefit of knowing where she comes from, and that she was a good person and a straight A student when she had a loving family and dear friends to count on.
You might say that having had a hard life doesn't justify Chloe being a bitch in an attempt to avoid getting her feelings hurt again, and that's a matter of personal opinion, but it would be naive to try to fit anyone in neat categories of "good person, does good things" vs. "bad person, does bad things", be they fictional characters or real people, since both fictional characters and (especially) real people are much more nuanced than that.

>>545052695
>How did her mother give up on her?
>I don't remember seeing anything that suggests she stopped trying.
How about when she constantly complains that Chloe is doing nothing with her life and has clearly stopped on trying to get Chloe to see a therapist or get an education. In fact it seems like Joyce expects Max to do the heavy lifting in steering Chloe in the right direction rather than herself.

>>545059362
My post was motivated by your word salad. I knew it’d trigger another wave of empty cope, and as expected, you just couldn’t help yourself. Nothing new

The reason people empathize with Chloe is because you are given all the information of her life. You know the why of her abrasiveness. And her being short with Max is warranted because of how Max treated her at her lowest. The fact she immediately took her back is an indicator of both how much she loves Max and how desperate she is for companionship.
In real life, id still feel bad for the person, but I probably wouldn't deal with their bullshit.
I still like her though. She's one of my favorite characters in gaming and her relationship with Max is sweet.

>>545064921
I agree with the second paragraph. Chloe is interesting as a character but I would probably hate her if she was real

All this chaos could’ve been avoided if those fuckers gave us a BtS sequel of right before Rachel died. I’d even take a comic of it.

Ashly Burch with some recent reflection on LiS. https://youtube.com/shorts/V-lXbAX9PMI?si=w4Iqdy8Qv9Xt_6Ae

>>545079551
She's so out of touch

>>545069015
Obviously, if players actually followed that logic, the final choice wouldn't be anywhere near 50/50

Maturing is realizing Sacrifice Chloe is the better ending.

Did the play testing happen yet? Hoping for some major leaks soon..

She filtered millions

Lost Retard's thread got archived again. DEchads, why we cannot stop winning?

>>545099029
I'd prefer to be selfish. Fuck the town and all these people after what I've been through.

Although it would be nice to finish my education, but whatever

>>545114791
DEfags are desperate for a win, even when their game is a 30 million dollar flop that killed the studio and fired all its writers kek

>>545114791
Hag Max emboldens the place

>>545119187
You seethe

>>545062995
>anon makes a coherent argument twice
>word salad empty cope
Someone's clearly coping but it's nta.

>https://voca.ro/12GwftlOwJVc
God I wish I were in Chloe's water...
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTbNc1fgGFM
God I wish Chloe would come mess with me...

>>545123147
the whole 'it’s not that simple' thought stretched into a wall of text (twice) - isn't a coherent argument

>>545115491
>innocent people are... le bad!

>>545114791
Because LRfags are just spite posters.

>>545125443
>anon makes a coherent argument twice about how people are nuanced
>fails to pick up on any nuance
>also if someone would choose to save a dear friend at the cost of a small town it means they hate innocent people and they're also from reddit
Did you know that rigid patterns of thought and failure to understand subtleties in people's emotions and behaviors are symptoms of autism?
I'm starting to believe this >>544762423 pasta.

>>545130730
>anon makes a coherent argument twice about how people are nuanced
orly, where?
>Did you know that rigid patterns of thought and failure to understand subtleties in people's emotions and behaviors are symptoms of autism?
and did you know that being that selfish is pure sociopathy?

>>545124887
>wall of text (twice)
Because they realize the other side actually has a moral ground for their choice and they don’t

>>545130282
DEfags are the bitter spite posters of all tho, they keep bringing up a flop that has hurt the franchise and get mad when this very simple fact gets pointed out kek

>>545132424
>moral ground
I still remember when some of the bayfags here posted that twett of that loon saying how it was very important for him to Chloe to stay dead, more than to see the other people of Arcadia Bay saved, not exactly a moral ground to joy over the death of a 19 year old in a bathroom

>>545139294
considering there's a show, a sequel, and apparently even a remake in the works, and you're still seething over DE, it clearly fried what's left of your tiny brain way more than it ever hurt the franchise

>>545139620
>very important for him to Chloe to stay dead, more than to see the other people of Arcadia Bay saved
and of course, that tweet laid out a completely different motivation. you just made this up right now.
keep seething

>>545139294
LRfags have made two duplicate generals because they were mad DE was in the OP.

>>545141080
>considering there's a show
Even if it is decent, it's years too late and it might not even

>a sequel
A contractually obligated sequel made to fill SE retarded belief DE would have been a success, and likely a flop on arrival as well as dogshit as its predecessor

>a remake in the works
They'll have to recruit a new studio and the remake is planned, but also its not a good thing becayse SE will still try to put their retarded requests

>it clearly fried what's left of your tiny brain way more than it ever hurt the franchise
You are a corporate shill that don't give a shit about the franchise quality going down the drain, as long as you can suck SE's cock. Don't make me laught

>>545147017
notice I never said what's coming is gonna be good, on time, or anything like that. i just said the franchise is still going
>You are a corporate shill
the same 'shill' who right after DE was announced posted here that SE in its current state can't put out anything good. i also said what would be in the game and who wouldn't, but you just didn't believe it back then, like people who live in their own made‑up world usually do
>Don't make me laught
you've only been crying though. for a whole year now

>>545144573
That's just one of them, full‑on deranged

>>545148662
The franchise is going as much as a trainwreck passing throught a school, its not exactly something we should be proud of off
Maybe the show can salvage something, but by the time it is actually out it will have to do twice the work to fix the mess DE and its contractual sequel had done
A LIS1 remake is probably in the plans but it will take a while to see it, if SE will have to get a new studio working on

>i also said what would be in the game and who wouldn't, but you just didn't believe it back then, like people who live in their own made‑up world usually do
Shut your bitch ass up and be humble, y'all sniff your own farts harder than Adnan does. If you know something, you would have said it loud and clear by now, otherwise I assume you are also one of the many shitposters who have turned this place into a dump

>>545157917
anon, at this point literally everyone here has already told you you're an idiot who can't read properly, so i'll just repeat it again.
i never said i had leaks or insider info. what i did say, after watching the trailer and that 18‑minute gameplay stream, was that in the three later chapters they didn't show the game would turn into a mess, and that pricefield wouldn't be in it. which was clear to any sane person back then.
now keep crying

>>545162030
>pricefield wouldn't be in it
Based

>>545162030
See? You literally cant hold yourself to be arrogant again, but something tells me you are going to buy the next game just to spite
Get bent, corpo shill

>>545165195
>Anon points out the corpo is in bad shape and nothing good will come out of the release
>Seething schizo retard: get bent, corpo shill
Anon, meds now

>>545166313
Corpo shill in Pricefieldfag speak is anyone who says anything about DE other than it’s the worst game in the world and Chloe should’ve been in it.

>>545166669
DE should be fucked out of this thread same way it happened for LIS2. Nobody had to complain afterward, I don't see why we shouldn't do it again

>>545166313
>believing they are sincere
>on 4chan
biggest mistake you make is to take everything said here like they mean it
they will blast square when it suits them but also defend stupid shit like focus groups and pulling out stuff that hurts the franchise more than help it

>>545166939
you seethe

Chloe energy

>>545166939
If an off topic game gets included, franchise games should.

>>545166313
>>545166669
Like all low‑IQ people, they live in a super simplified reality. Don’t seethe about DE? — you’re a corpo shill. Don’t care about Pricefield? — then you never cared about the franchise in the first place

>>545167767
Again why did you care now but you did not before DE was out?

>>545167921
Anon, if we all left and left all of you three DEfags, the board would die already
Its the drama you crave, not a sense of improving or doing something for the series

>>545168447
>we all
LMAO

>>545168447
>three DEfags

>>545169257
so it's just one dedicated anon then

Since there are a couple of anons who brag about knowing stuff and doing their due research, how about they start looking if there's a new development studio who might be working for a "narrative adventure game" in their resume, maybe even mentioning Square too
They might not have a plan that doesn't change every two minutes, but at least they would start working on a LIS remake right about now if they want to hit the timing with the TV show and course correct from their own Deck 9 disasters

https://www.polygon.com/life-is-strange-dust-graphic-novel/

wdyt?

>>545167730
>no minute long sex scene between Chloe/Rachel, Max/Chloe or Alex/Steph
Why even live

>>545169886
yeah, the one whose seethe‑thread keeps dying over and over

>>545168292
That’s exactly the problem I have. Off topic games have no place in the OP. If they are in it, then all franchise games at the very least should be. If an off topic game was not pushed to be included I wouldn’t care as much.

>>545171302
Fair enough

>>545168447
>if we all left and left all of you three DEfags, the board would die already
Didn’t the seethe thread you tried to create die?

>>545170432
There were a couple anons who actually delivered — one datamined the code, another geolocated the actors during VO. Then the Pricefield shippers drove them off, so now they don’t share jack. So how about you start looking yourself, anon

pricefielders ruined everything

>>545170721
Guess it wasn't a new short story after all? Unless they're saving that for later.

>>545171686
>how about you start looking yourself
all they ever manage to dig up themselves is joyce's ring or a chloe‑coded mural, lol

>>545162030
>after watching the trailer and that 18‑minute gameplay stream, was that in the three later chapters they didn't show the game would turn into a mess, and that pricefield wouldn't be in it
Oh, I remember that like it was yesterday. They were screaming that if you believed that, you obviously didn't play the first game at all

When are the surveys/playtests we need some leaks! When is de2 coming when will the playtester leak happen come the fuck on

>>544818938
In ep.3 she tells Chloe she asks Chloe what a first kiss feels like, so yes.

>>545187276
screenshot?

>>545186662
I'm in right now, we're playing LiS 2 PS5 edition.

>>545186662
>Be a shitfielder
>DE2 is contractually obligated sequel lmao it will flop hahaha deck nine is more like dead nine lol DEfenders are retarded kek corpo slop and fanfiction
>Also: where are MUH LEAKS??? I need MUH LEAKS come on fuck on WAAAHHHHH

>>545188241
Can't produce one atm, it comes up if you speak to Chloe after walking up in her room, she talks about boys and you choose "boys are trouble".

>>545187276
No kiss at 18 is sad

>>545171686
>it's all their fault!
All so simple when you have an imaginary enemy in your head

>>545189865
you need help anon, go touch grass

>>545188727
kek nice try

>>545189865
I know it's a hard concept to graps, but if the franchise has to turn itself into a DCEU mess might as well we laught at it reading how they were going to sell the whole Safi Avengers bullshit in part 2

>>545189865
Well what else is there to do but wait for leaks im bored bro

>>545171302
You seem to have very thin skin just because of Lost Records being included as it didn't hurt anyone and people actually discussed way better than DE
I'll take DN's non-franchise game over Deck9 spineless corporate mandate slop

>>545199005
You seem to have very thin skin just because of Double Exposure being included as it didn't hurt anyone sane and people actually discussed way better than LR
I'll take SE's franchise game over Dontnod's low-effort poverty-tier junk

>>545199005
>thin skin
LRfags made another thread because their off topic game didn’t make the OP.

>>545200061
>I'll take SE's franchise game
and you get mad when you get called a shill for SE kek
>low-effort poverty-tier junk
lotta buzzwords for describe DE

>>545166939
Imagine being so mentally unstable you literally can’t handle the game’s presence in the OP. Clinical case. Don’t stall with the doctors, anon — the sooner you go, the better your chances

>>545175079
There never was one. Emma said she was asked to write one but said no cos she didn't have the time. She also said she was shocked tom see it being promoted as part of the release

It’s hilarious how mindbroken shippers got over DE

>>545175556
kek

>>545205813
I see, thanks

It's time to roleplay another character in Life is Strange: a lesbian Max who makes out with Chloe's butt.

>>545217670
That’s exactly what they deserve

>>545231394
Poop comes out from there

>>545243565
It seems like people forget about this tiny little detail.

>>545231394
GTFO shipper clown

>>545192654
Being a virgin at your age is also sad, but that isn't stopping you.
(in reality it's perfectly acceptable and even admirable that some people might want to save themselves for a person they truly love)

>>545248067
>66%
>27%

Kek
Based Warren curbstomps pricefield

>>545248067
>person they truly love

>>545250164
Warren got shafted even harder than Chloe in DE and nobody even cared to raise that much voice for him
You only do so because of spite

>>545251770
her true love is a married woman kek

>>545205065
>Imagine being so mentally unstable you literally can’t handle the game’s presence in the OP
Yeah, who would have guessed the only way for some anons to care about LIS2 after years of it not being included in the OP was for Lost Records to be included
This is a den of mentally deficient morons, the DEfags who took over are as much dictatorial and spiteful as the ones they claim to hate

>>545252417
Married with what ring, Joyce’s?

>>545253318
repeating nonsense an anon said YEAR ago doesn't make you slick, it makes you terminally online and deranged
seek help

>>545250164
and they're even trying to convince everyone that pricefield is more than 20%
ridiculous

>>545253318
Yes

>>545253701
Then where are all the Warren fans? They should be even more pissed given how he's treated in DE, yet I don't remember seeing any big outrage around him

Maybe you guys are just building another spite echochamber because otherwise your lives would be quite drab outside

>>545253758
They are talking how Amanda consider Gwen her "true love" if you don't romance her, even if she's a married woman
Also Max abuses her power to get into a romance regardless of consent, good thing she should have learned her lesson by the first game

>>545253814
>I don't remember seeing any big outrage around him
Exactly, retard! The people who made that choice actually have the mindset of grown adults. To them, a lot of things and their consequences are obvious, and they don’t waste their lives throwing endless tantrums online

>>545254067
Then why the hell SE when LIS1 was out had a whole spin off about Chloe and merch stuff as well as comics books focused around Max and Chloe? If the pricefielders weren't that relevant in the fandom, why doing that?

And don't try to fool me, you know the "grown adult" argument is retarded

>>545253948
>even if she's a married woman
which is why she says it'll never be more than a dream. Amanda's a good girl, always thinking about others first

>Max abuses her power to get into a romance
that's just not true and you know it. cook up something more believable

>>545254463
>that's just not true and you know it

Anon, the game gives you the option of either kissing both Vinh and Amanda, and all of it requires to switch timelines in were the characters are available, then they merge and they call that out on Max going for their other self
If she was coherent with her LIS1 self, shit like this would be off limits

>Amanda's a good girl
she's designed to be the lesbian version of a trad wife whos pure and perfect and her flaws are low level things. She wouldn't be out of place as one of those interchangeable love interest girls you usually see in Hallmark style movies

>>545254703
Ah, so any of that is optional

>>545250164
>>545251770

>>545253590
You’re the same people crying for a year over a high school ship that broke up in a sequel you begged for.

>>545254786
>she's designed to be the lesbian version of a trad wife whos pure and perfect and her flaws are low level things
nah, sorry anon, but that's not how she's written, and not for that reason either. as for being perfect or flawless, i won't even bother. pay a bit more attention, maybe

>>545252232
ppl who showed affection for warren in the game just moved on because they are not crybabies AND weren't dumb enough to sacrifice whole town for him.

>>545257472
They moved on and didn't return to play DE.

>>545259123
To the same extent as the other parts of the fandom

>>545259123
Correct. Why would Square even try to achieve to cater to the part of the fandom that moved on rather than the one who's already there and active?

>>545255758
>>545255571

>>545260697
>/r/pricefield unc.png
Kek

>>545260561
The "new audience".
Someone at SE HQ is wondering why their big budget narrative game with super powers didn't sell 1 million copies like Dispatch.

>>545260023
This
>>545260561
Because if you only cater to the part of the fandom "that's already here and active", the game’s gonna sell LR‑tier numbers. At least they clawed back twenty mil this way

>>545262272
You'll have to show me your calculation for that 20 mil. Just to have a good laugh.

>>545264119
nta,
multiply the copies sold by the price, you get something like 17. just keep in mind tue and the discount periods

>>545248067
Based Apesters

>>545257472
>ppl who showed affection for warren in the game just moved on
yeah moved on from the franchise. They were one and done and haven't spent a penny on LiS content since

>>545271170
Anon, you don't know shit about which group spent what. LiS stuff and merch always sold fine - all of it, doesn't matter which fanbase

>>545264119
20 millions are players, not numbers of copies sold. For what I'm seeing a chunk of those players are the ones who play the free episode and then never touch the rest of the game

>>545261186
Could you imagine if for the LIS1 remake they impose to turn the story into a Dispatch gameplay knockoff? That would be extremely funny if it happens

>>545274556
Sorry, that wasn't about LiS1. LiS1 is probably around 6 to 8 mil copies sold.

The other anon was saying DE made 20 million back out of a 30 mil budget, which is totally bogus and based on dubious estimates.

>>545278568
DE barely recouped its loss, by steam numbers they made around 3,4 millions as of right now and that's without counting refunds, probably even less
Unironically LR is in a much better position to recoup its budget as it was around 10 millions and they made 7 back, which is not the worst way to underperform I guess

>>545278568
Then go ahead and count it yourself. Anon up there says it’s around 17 mil. There was another anon who was tracking it in the first months after release, but they dropped it in December, I believe. They had like 10 or 12 back then, don’t remember exactly
>>545279964
>its budget as it was around 10 millions and they made 7 back
The budget was 9, they made by back only 1,5

>>545280213
None of those two anons really have numbers about how DE sold, but SE's CEO called it "very poor" and we know its buget was 30 millions excluding the marketing, it was probably less than that

>The budget was 9, they made by back only 1,5
That wasn't terrible, it sucks but its not a end of the world style flop, hopefully they have better marketing for whatever IP Netflix gave them to work (100% is Stranger Things)

>>545243565
not at the time

>>545281894
The first anon definitely had them, especially early on when they were easy to track. Back then we even compared it to the TC chart. They split out The Ultimate Edition at $79.99, and it was already like $2.7 mil or something. Damn, I regret not taking screenshots. As for what Kiryu said, after that shareholder meeting where he mentioned it, the stock barely moved, even though there were a few other losses. The real drop came when their mobile and browser games tanked. So it’s pretty safe to say it was more about missed expectations than actual losses
>That wasn't terrible
How the hell does your brain even work? Both games bombed hard, which sucks for the genre. But in one case, when the publisher was a big greedy corp that can easily swallow the loss, you scream 'disaster!'. And in the other, when it’s a tiny studio on a razor-thin budget with a 6:1 expense/revenue ratio, you go 'That wasn’t terrible.' I just can’t with you, honestly

>>545284889
Why are you so hellbent in defending SE? Maybe the stock didn't move because they have other stuff going on and Square isn't reliant on Life is Strange sales, but the London part of SE clearly is:
>https://automaton-media.com/en/news/square-enixs-european-branch-reports-worsening-financial-losses-compared-to-previous-year/

And calm down and breathe, you come actoss as unhinged, we have no figure on the real data and I wouldn't trust that weird number anon who spammed this general badly researched numbers on pricefielders and sales, or whatever bullshit they were sperging on

nta but se london wouldn't have lasted that long as a publisher if they weren't a rib of the much more well off japan counterpart, they would have cratered down faster than dontnod without their overlords
they sold off their most profitable franchises and fucked over their remaining owned ones

>>545286593
>And calm down and breathe, you come actoss as unhinged
Lol, that was a quick surrender and straight into this crap. Shame, your first post made you look underinformed but not completely hopeless. Guess I wasted my time on you

>>545286998
But ironically it was the 'Japan counterpart' that tanked the stock, not those clowns in London

>>545288798
Unhinged behaviour anon, not even old OP was this off their rockers. Why should I even take you seriously when you act like fucking king of England?

>>545289760
meds immediately

>>545288798
anon, the moment he said 9 out vs 1.5 in isn't that bad, you should've known. you could piss on them and if it's about dontnod, they’d call it holy dew

>>545260561
The game about Chloe sold way less than the original btw

>>545292000
Make a game about that DE jeet guy and see what that sells

>>545292000
seven times less, btw. no other game in the franchise ever dropped that hard compared to the previous one.
honestly, that was the beginning of the end. they should've shut the whole thing down right there if not for square's greed

>>545292000
but still sold more than any of the games that came after it

>>545292000
And the one about Chloe sold more than all the games after it. The series just isn't that popular other than the first game, which came out in the brief window when narrative games had a moment of popularity.

>>545293697
Those numbers only happened because of LiS1’s success. Any game that dropped right after it would’ve sold just as well

>>545292000
And from a business perspective, it did awesome for a -side- budget game and is still the second best user reviewed game of the franchise.
SE considered BTS a success and renewed their contract with D9.
Be serious anon, you look stupid.

>>545298358
you seethe

>>545298754
Sacrifice Eva.
She was ugly and dimeless.

>>545299162
just like MUH CLHOE

>>545284889
Anon, SE usually never talks about LiS in their meeting. For them to mention it and mention how bad it did, it must have been a disaster.
Kiryu specifically said DE had "very poor sales".
Not only that game flopped hard but it also hurt the future prospects of the franchise. They now have to rebuild trust and hire new partners, that's not insignificant.

>>545299239
NTA, but
You don't know jack about what’s said at those meetings - you're not there.
You can't even tell us which event it was or who he said it to.
You never read the JP journo's original piece with the CEO quote.
You never read the full transcript either.
That anon was right, the stock didn't even react. Screenshots were posted here regularly.
So, go touch some grass, maybe even a nice ass, whatever. GTFO

>>545250164
Lol and these are the same people who swore hardcore pricefielders were 20% of the fandom

>>545300841
Eat shit.
https://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/ir/library/pdf/25q3outline.pdf

Q: To what degree have the weak sales of “Life is Strange: Double Exposure” impacted your earnings?

A: They have acted as a fairly substantial drag on our earnings as sales have been very poor despite development costs having
exceeded what would be typical for a mid-tier title

>>545303650
Jesus...
2024 quote
Feels like we're doomed to suffer idiots like you in this thread

>>545085831
like Cassidy's VA at the panel she recently attended,
>what ur favourite lis song?
>idk, I really dont know, sryy... but I loved singing her Cassidy's songs

Meanwhile Kylie, she was a beast and even questioned whenever Mendes was still involved with the show.

>>545103036
Dream on Cada, I will say it again, if any of you merks attended, do not share jackshit because SE effectively hunt you down and wont just stop at abusing whenever you play Final Fantasy & taking your bank details to find you if you topped up once.

I'm at the end of the third episode in my replay and
fuck me
goddammit
shit fuck
fucking hell
god fuck
what did I do...

On another note, I was looking at messages I exchanged with a friend around the time the game came out and with that I'm remembering a lot of negative opinions about Dontnod's work, the writing quality, the consistency of this or that character between episodes, and especially the weight of your choices during the whole game.
It's sad to see how, despite that, LiS is now considered the best game in the series and that which made the most sense.

>>545305813
Eat shit again.
Date/Time: February 7, 2025 (Fri.); 7:00-8:00 pm (JST)
Main Speaker: Takashi Kiryu, President and Representative Director

>>545307072
LMAO

>>545307219
when is de2 announcement... anon?

>>545307219
2024 quote needed. Are you even following?

>>545307118
Unfortunately it's because for most, it's the only one they played/watched. More emphasis on watch.

>>545311650
I'm good. I won't waste any more time with someone who thinks an anon on 4chan had the real numbers lol

>>545313769
Like I said, you'e not following. I wasn't the one talking numbers

>>545316798
4chins is so flooded with ESLs now that every conversation in every thread boils down to 'you're not following' almost immediately.

>>545305948
What

>>545188727
Damn, they edited Cass' boobs out...

Did Cassidy let Sean nut in her?

>>545325781
No, but Finn did.

>>545325781
I did

>>545313769
Then go do the math yourself. Dude above told you how. Achievement stats are there, aggregator data is open, discount periods and percentages are all over social media. So go ahead, lol.
But I already figured out you're the same moron who tried to prove LiS1 sold 20 million copies with that article whose source was a dead SE blog link

Would Max be on top, or Chloe?

>>545339141
Max tops, Chloe is a needy, bratty bottom.

>>545339141
Max is often the subject of Chloe's light-BDSM.

>>545339141
Warren

>>545339141
They’re switches

>>545351915
in the chair

>>545355058
You seethe

>>545338903
Be humble anon, we already know that Square referred to 20 million players for the first game, and a chunk of those are just the ones who played the first free episode but not the whole game

>>545363804
You're either a retard or legit ESL

>>545366790
>everything I don't like is ESL
seek help

>>545311650
I do have the 2024 quote, it was made right after DE came out. Kiryu knew of the backlash and was worried about its impact on sales

https://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/ir/library/pdf/25q2outline.pdf

>Q: How do you expect the HD Game sub-segment to trend in Q3 and beyond?
>A: I will outline our expectations for the titles we plan to launch in Q3.
> “Life is Strange: Double Exposure” (October 30, 2024 launch): We tend to grow sales of titles in this series over a relatively long span of time, but this latest installment has sharply divided opinion on some websites and the like.
>As such, we need to carefully monitor how it performs going forward. We intend to especially closely monitor how the title performs during the November-December holiday season in its main target markets of North America and Europe.

It sold like shit and if that Dragon Age HD Remake wasn't a success, it would have dragged down SE sales even more

>>545339141
See the tree starting from >>544798297
IMO the best take is still >>544819615

>>545368392
What does what I like have to do with it? You're just not comprehending what's being posted

>>545339141
Switch. Rachel is the only true top
Alex however exclusively tops Steph

>>545338903
That’s gonna be a pain in the ass now. First two weeks you could just filter TUE since only activated copies counted. Now I don’t even know where to get the graphs to overlay discount periods.
All I can do is flex my forecasting. Like I said back in October, sales would be about half of TC, and that’s pretty much how it turned out. The only miss was with concurrent players. I didn’t think the peak would beat TC. I predicted 6,500. But, it is what it is

>>545363804
Phil dropped the official sales number which was 5 mil for lis 1, source: threadoffate reddit account - his logs are still up on archival site

>>545376243
which roughly lines up with achievement stats, aggregator data, forecast calculations based on the last officially revealed pure sales numbers, and so on

>>545374203
The 6500 estimate might be now true for DE2, all that initial hype was for Max returning but all the negative reception and word of mouth afterward has probably soured interest for audiences in Life is Strange. They can't run on the surprise hype anymore and marketing is probably even less than the first

>>545377568
>initial hype was for Max returning
that's why it hit 8.6k, or whatever it was
>word of mouth
overrated, never gives any real boost
>They can't run
pretty obvious they're not gonna do anything about it, all their hopes are pinned on something else now

>>545376243
give the link i cant find him again

>>545378924
>overrated, never gives any real boost
If that was true, then we wouldn't have the literal CEO of SE worried about it >>545368623
For a franchise like this in the state that is now, it matters a lot having positive consensus as they cant just sell the game on name alone like a big AAA game like Halo, Cod or AssCreed

>>545325781
My Sean would never touch that filthy tatooed fat junkie. Bros are in mexico together and fuck local bitchez.

>>545383506
>mexico
>local bitchez
That's even worse

>>545383506
From wolf bros to wolf pack

>>545379537
Yeah, where was that almighty word of mouth when LR tanked, clown?

>>545386239
Word of mouth can be helped with marketing and exposure. DE's campaign was very active but also incredibly inconsistent and it only got worse between the early access and post relase, so it resulted in negative word of mouth, tanking the game. While Lost Records had better word of mouth, it wasn't helped that the Dont Nod marketing team was almost on strike and they barely advertised it

Its not easy to make a game go viral or become successful if you are a game developer who's struggling financially or has barely a strong marketing team, but its also incredibly easier to fuck up if you have the resources to publicize your game and screw up with a inconsistent marketing effort who crumbles down afterward

>>545254786
Imagine seething because Amanda's a good person. Absolute state

>>545390537
Social media is the modern day word of mouth with both games suffering in that department because the vast majority of people just weren't interested. The VGA trailers didn't help much since there were better, subjective, games shown that piqued the average gamer's interest. You can blame it on both companies' marketing departments sure, even more in LR's case, but it's not wholly their fault if people don't care about the product much.

>>545399598
If only they did focus groups...

>>545405042
they did - pricefield 20%

>>545103036
On the Pricefield Discord one of the Cali users is apparently invited and says the play-test is today and tomorrow. They're not saying much as they're careful about their NDA. But for those who want to ruminate, in an exchange with Cada the focus-group user said 'we're all wrong about many things'. Teasing. Trolling. Hinting. Who knows.

>>545411482
>in an exchange with Cada
>the focus-group user
probably one of us again

>>545412558
Nah, in this case I think it's the user that first posted publicly that the focus-group is a 'play-test' then panic-deleted that posting out of fear of Square-snipers. I'll skip naming their username for charity's sake.

>>545413798
It was obvious it was a playtest. 4 separate sessions, 2 days each. Now, if you can actually prove it's the same guy who got the confirmation mail from SE, that's a different story

>>545414417
It's the internet so it''s always possible its someone talking shit or pretending they're in the know. But to follow the trail.

-A User on Reddit posted an email from Square saying they're a good candidate for a playtest and that they'd get $500
-That Reddit post is now deleted. Adnan posted the archived screen-cap.
-A username in the Pricefield Discord matches a username from that same Reddit thread. On Discord that user has said more than once that they're in the focus group session. They're also paranoid about the NDA.
-When someone over there tried to coax them to break NDA they said 'I'm not anonymous here and reddit and they know my username'
-Hinting that they're the one who posted the original letter and then deleted it out of fear of reprisal

Their username isn't too hard to find for anyone that wants to dig. I'd rather not 'out' them in case they're being genuine. If they're speaking truthfully though I doubt they'll enjoy the play-test much as they adore Chloe and hate DE1.

>>545415595
Pricefield Discord Link for anons that want to decide for themselves: https://discord.gg/mxsaCPcHQu

>>545411482
What if the troll anon here is right and they're just playtesting the PS5 versions of LiS1, BtS and LiS2 or a remake?
That would be a funny twist.

>>545411482
Wrong about how bad DE2 is or how Cada predictions are nonsense?

>>545416559
Why would they need to playtest a PS5 version of LIS2 or the LIS1 remaster? Usually is just a small update and the system doesn't really have much changes

>>545415883
>join a shitfielderschizo club

no thanks.

>>545416916
Good choice. It's full of the 'No Bae no Baying' crowd.

>>545416560
Open to interpretation. Cada was referring to her DE predictions and said 'Truly I do worry that I am (wrong). Supposed focus-tester replied and said 'We're all wrong about many things'. Generally though it's not like that user's posts have become suddenly optimistic. They still hate DE and still loathe D9 and their mind hasn't changed even if they know more than the rest of us. They claim the play-test is today and tomorrow though. If that's true then their real reaction will be formed today and tomorrow.

>>545415595
Read the wording in that mail carefully. The recruiting for those playtest sessions was handled by a third‑party company

>>545417512
Ladydev said there's no direction or driver around DE2, and the only remaining folk is supposedly a nazi too, which will be quite funny once it gets revealed how thry are

>>545417851
They always used third parties for surveys and focus group too, so not surprising. Either way, if not the cali discord guy, it will be another one who will spill the beans.
Keep us updated anon

>>545417512
>They claim the play-test is today and tomorrow though.
If that’s the case, then they can’t possibly know anything yet. The earlier dates had different groups.

>>545418147
They implied that if that was the case, the mail would’ve been worded differently, and it’s very likely just a fake from someone who didn’t know that.

>>545415595
Found the user but looks like they're purging even more or their messages to cover their ass. But can confirm that the interaction the anon referenced happened in that Discord.

>>545420368
you forgot to censor their name kek

>>545420368
>Pricefield Slut
Good gracious...
No wonder everyone hates those shipper assholes

>>545420690
lulz. Oh well. I'm not as conscientious as the original anon. kek.

>>545420802
Next time do a better job if you have to update us on what they say

>>545420802
One more try. Just validating that the original anon isn't making shit up as I found the interaction in question.

>>545420368
>>545421502
LMAO, stupid fuck uses the same username for all his social media

>>545421329
nothing new to report. Was just confirming that the anon in >>545415595 is being genuine in what they saw. Trail might go cold as I swear the 'focus group' user themselves are deleting the incriminating stuff. Saw a post where they said due to NDA all they can do is suffer in silence and not say what they know. Now can't find that post. Paranoia purge.

>>545422057
Shocking that normal people are normie about their account on Twitter, I know

>>545423047
Ah, well it’s obvious everything he said before doesn’t matter. He didn’t know shit until today

>>545425920
Yeah. Interestingly they haven't posted anything since 8:10 am California time on the Discord. If the play-test starts at 10 am Cali time, today, and they have to travel to get there, at least that part lines up. If they were posting on Discord when they're supposedly play-testing we'd know their story is full of shit.

>>545423047
Is this Blackwell academy server and Max's room? Do they have people getting info on the inside?

I'm going out on a limb and guessing de takes place in an alternate reality and isn't the real Max

>>545435690
Oh its Blackwell academy and the price field discord. Hopefully somebody spills. I just want to know what to expect.

>>545398383
Jealousy and bitterness

>>545424709
Yeah, except they're not retarded enough to post under the same nick in a schizo Discord about how they signed an NDA and are going to playtest

>>545435690
Unlikely. And they're clearly lurking here too, trying to leech info. And the dude who went to the playtest seems to have posted here as well

>>545436914
If everybody plays in a group it won't be hard to make a random account spill and delete

I need the tea. I'm curious on what they'll learn and if they'll be excited or upset. Even just having one of these people say people will be happy or mad will tell us a lot

I am drooling for info

>>545437781
You don't really know how this works. Same as those retards in the screenshot coaching him on how to talk without getting tracked.

Are you pro-Pricefield?

>>545438998
just want some leaks , don't ruin the fun

So when is DE2 releasing? Spring 2026?

>>545440076
The fun police is here we want our leaks any news on discord I need to join and lurk

>>545445563
It's the Discord over here >>545415883 where the supposed play-test user is active. Based on their past msgs they're not planning on spilling anything. But you can lurk and see if they slip up.

They have closed off pricefield haven the pricefield server to new members the leaks happening there looks like

>>545448262
Looks like it's time to have some fun trolling them

spoiler alert

Pricefield lost

>>545452173
Imaging begging for a sequel for years then getting mad because a ship died

>>545452487
Absolutely deserved. Everyone put up with their clown show for 10 years, now at least it's actually fun

>>545452173
Anyone in that server got any details? Pricefield haven where it's going down isn't accepting new members

>>545448262
By closed i mean invites paused but some of you are in the server spill

>>545453639
I agree it was deserved because they screamed about respecting endings yet didn’t respect the fact that LIS was never supposed to have a sequel

Have there actually been leaks?

>>545454473
nothin happenin so far. Cada's in touch with sum1 and posted confirmation that some playtests are 2day and sum 2mrow.

>>545453639
What of the decent Pricefielders?

>>545455048
Thanks fingers crossed we learn something good or bad we need something new to talk about..

>>545455902
what is good for you? and what is bad?

>>545453639
>>545452487
>>545452173
seek professional help

>>545459564
You seethe

>>545460490
you need to touch grass anon, its not healthy keeping this going

>>545452173
more like dick 9 lost all their credibility and employment soon kek

>>545460871
You seethe

>>545417512
>Cada was referring to her DE predictions and said 'Truly I do worry that I am (wrong)
since I'm not there, what are her latest predictions?

>>545455902
welp they're gonna spill info but even in the Discord only a select few will get to see it. prolly a smart move given lisg is stalking the situation lulz.

>>545459564
I’m not the people crying over a video game ship

>>545463951
The mere fact that they're calling it 'DE2' spoilers implicitly confirm that this is what was play-tested. Not a big revelation but interesting to get a supposed confirmation. The fact that the initial reaction isn't complete pessimism is also interesting. Didn't say they're giving 'more shit news'. Instead says 'nice sweet tea'.

>>545463951
Oh for fucks sake. Hopefully it leaks anyway and spreads around.

I wonder if the playtesters got the whole plot like the de1 playtesters. Hopefully somebody spills anyway and leaks the discord chats

I'm curious if any theories got confirmed or if de2 is something nobody predicted whether in a bad or good way lol. I wonder if people liked the playtest and if it's good tea or a train wreck tea share

Is DE2 confirmed already or what's happening?

Trailer in February, April release
screenshot this

>>545467793
They're getting paranoid to dodge the Square Ninjas. Now even the messages saying that there was a play-test and that they're creating a spoiler/leak channel have been erased. Only people in the Pricefield inner-circle will have the tea for now. But watching the tone of certain key Pricefielders will be interesting to see if they're suddenly more hopeful about DE2 or whether they're still pessimistic.

>>545471245
That's going to be key to figuring out if this is good or bad for max and chloe fans. It will likely leak out once the people in the inner circle spill to their inner circles.

I wonder what we were 'wrong about' means given the Fandoms only opinion has Max and Chloe are over lol

Lis avengers, Auto Max or Safi sabotage or none of the above what are we getting i wonder if that leaker is here wish they'd even give a slight clue.

>>545471245
The fuck is a key pricefielder?

>>545472360
Popular users in pricefield Fandom. Just watch to see if people around Cada get hype or extra depressed

>>545472360
NTA but I'm guessing the 'No Bae no Baying' crowd lulz. The usernames posting about Chloe non-stop on every platform in the lead up to Double Exposure. The Keno crowd.