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>What... is this?
Put simply, a simulation of Pro Evolution Soccer being competed between teams which are embodiments of boards of the 4chan imageboard. The players represent facets of each board's culture. All of the matches are AI versus AI. However, humans "manage" each team, creating their tactics and giving input during games as they happen to make substitutions and tactical changes as they see fit.
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/FAQ

>Where can I watch the cup?
https://isthisliv.com/4cc/stream.html

>Current Cup
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/2025_4chan_Autumn_Babby_Cup_Qualifiers
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/2025_4chan_Autumn_Babby_Cup

>Upcoming /vg/ League
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League_25

>Upcoming Invitationals
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Divegrass_Before_Christmas_6:_This_can%27t_wait_a_month

>Wiki:
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Main_Page

>Sekkrit Code
37pebis

>DLC Password
divegrass

>Booru
https://isthisliv.com/booru/

>Other videos
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Videos

>PES Info
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer_2015

>Friday's Matches
/k/ 0-4 /an/
/wg/ 2-1 /int/
/d/ 2-2 /vmg/
/n/ 1-2 /s4s/
/u/ 5-1 /a/
/i/ 6-1 /lgbt/
/y/ - /xs/
/vr/ - /toy/

>Sunday's Matches
/vmg/ - /n/
/s4s/ - /d/
/a/ - /i/
/lgbt/ - /u/
/xs/ - /vr/
/toy/ - /y/
/an/ - /wg/
/int/ - /k/

>Previously
Melties
/mlp/ dies

Fuck Crimson.

Get me the fuck out of here.

Who can teach me how to groom a retarded femanager?

Your team is bad

Poster below is gay

Me waiting for vst and vp to git gud

>>544943772
no you
Its that time of the cup again, post questions for admin to answer on FB
Sou will be around on his phone so make fun of him for it

nth for chub

>>544943772
Holy BASED

>>544944004
Crimson, listen to me! The guy you’re about to face... they call him The Namefag. He used to be just another anonymous poster on 4chan, one of the countless voices in the void. But something changed. He started signing his posts... attaching his name to everything he wrote. That might not sound dangerous, but in that culture, Crimson, it’s suicide. The others turned on him. Years of ridicule, doxxing, and humiliation. It twisted him. Now he’s obsessed with identity itself. He can see who you are before you even post. If he unmasks you, Crimson, the mods are going to find you, and then it’s over.

>>544944004
zoer or sangen?

>>544944004
Are you guys going trick or treating?

>>544944004
What did f4r mean by this?
https://implyingrigged.info/w/index.php?search=a+good+pes+version&title=Special%3ASearch&go=Go

>>544944004
VEE GEE LETS FUCKING GO

>>544944004
why are /u/ gay?

>>544944004
Yeah I've got a fucking question for you

Scenarii for the spoon playoffs :
-/xs/-/lgbt/ : they have to lose with the same scoreline
-/co/-/vst/ : /lgbt/, /xs/ and /int/ must get a point.

There's even a chance for /int/ to join a triple playoff but that's very low chance.

>>544944004
are you more of an anthro or animal ears/tail only type of guy

>>544944004
How big is Batista's dick?

>>544944004
at what point is a team PES'd?
Is 7 saves to 0 and an offside goal a PES?
Should there be a PES'd of the tournament auties?

>>544944004
can a nigga come up in your crib

>>544944004
Does /vg/ succeeding disappoint you as much as it does me?

>>544944004
Hey dude you forgot to post this in /bccg/

>>544944004
Chances of Spring/Summer to be in any PES other than 15?
Why are you a massive faggot?

>>544944004
cipher as streamer when? a dogshit streamer for a dogshit PES

>>544944004
Feelings about this PES?
Why does it feel that sometimes the defence does not want to show up?

>>544944004
How much longer is the cup on 15?

>>544944004
General thoughts on this cup
Any possible changes for Winter/Spring
Possible pes' after 15

>>544944004
now 15 is proven dogshit and we're free with actual new PES, can we scrap 15 and go to 20 for Spring/Summer

>>544944004
Favorite cat? For me it's the manul

>>544944004
when are we moving to a better game?

>>544944004
Please see >>544920241
Given that we got a bit of ads at the end of the stream today, I would suspect that there's a link between whatever new tech Google is rolling out and the errors myself and others are getting.

>>544944004
How is /vt/ still allowed to play at this point?

>>544944004
Removal of /vt/ now inshallah

>>544944004
we NEED pes14

>>544944004
I THINK PES15 SUCKS!

>>544944004
who is the DSP of the 4cc?

>>544944004
There are two chairs: one has sharp spikes on it, the other - stiff dicks. Which one would you sit on and on which would you sit down your mom?

>>544944004
>>544944138
That question is for QD btw.

>>544944004
Rein in the /jp/ manager before other ERPfags start feeling at home, and start punishing that kind of attention whoring.

>>544944004
QD, make me a sandwich

cloud

>>544944004
hors sex?

>>544944004
wher /f/ go? :(

>>544944004
What's the contingency plan for when Sou gets disappeared to a black site in Uganda?

>>544944004
What’s the process for removing a commissioner? 15 has been the biggest debacle in recent years, weedman should go, new PES for next cycle

>>544944004
What does /admin/ think of this image?

>>544944004
Tell me Crimson, when are we getting more news on Fire Emblem?

>>544944004
can you post your funniest reaction images at >/mlp/

>>544944004
How do you feel of the games so far on 15? It felt like some or a majority of the games are fairly identical, ignoring tactical aspects. Are there parts of the ruleset that might be part of that "issue"?

Also, what happened to +1 gamespeed?

>>544944408
divegrass before christmas

>>544944004
How bitchy are you guys feeling today?

>>544944004
WHAT are some bigly failing slop sliders /zzz/ could 'toss /bag/'s way in an /uma/-esque way without freaky keeperbabbying 'cord circlejerking or melty kwabbypow for PES15? Something semi TMAny kekaroo but still [Good News] like my wife zoer despite the raped page 9 gook viewership, troonsoup & POIkeks... Please, I have anxiety...

>>544944004
Other than /lit/, which team(s) would you point out as ones with managers 'playing into their role perfectly'. And which of them are the complete opposite and want (team + managers associated with them) to be what they're not?

Do you think that /lit/-like behaviour adds or detracts from the cup?

>>544944004
When will you sub in mibibi

>>544944004
when will you admit you got raped by AB15 chads and just stop coping and acting raped

>>544944405
>ai raped /aco/

>>544944138
>bush that goes all the way up
mother of god...

>>544944004
what's ur fav PES to rigging, and /f/ will come back someday?

>>544944004
Is there something that can be done to improve the POI situation? I don't want the 4CC to end like VGL accepting a team with just three replies or the VTL where they allow offsite shit to play in their tournament, we should have an actual standard of quality.

>>544944004
can you put the nyoner at the bottom left of the pape

>>544944592
>I don't want the 4CC to end like VGL accepting a team with just three replies
/fa/ was accepted with 0 positive replies

>>544944004
thoughts on >>>/b/941989481

>>544944004
The goalfest seems to have dropped off a little, have teams figured out how to compensate for CBs being retarded?

>>544944004
the rigbot should go back to not allowing people to go into denbt to bet. it's not much of an accomplishment to rapidly climb the leaderboard just by betting against the guy who blows 1e50.

>>544944004
Hi

>>544944004
how can we make wrassling fun again

>>544944660
thats just suule posting

>>544944004
Thoughts about updating the auties with some new categories? I was thinking something like Save of the Tourney or Assist of the Tourney would be cool

>>544944004
Am I schizo to believe in hidden stats in PES like 'eagerness' or 'frustration' depending on the red or purle conditions? Asking regarding of cards, missed shots, wide shots and whatnot.

>>544944367
Come to think of it, he is indeed going against the "don't be a faggot" rule pretty hard.

>>544944004
Which people in /admin/ were canonically raped?

>>544944004
When will admin mandate that anyone using a 4-3-3 formation must use their GK on setpieces?

Also, what are Admin opinions on the irc functions of the bot?

>>544944004
Thought experiment:
The rest of /admin/ was just killed in a horrible discord accident and (You) are forced to select 3 people to help you run this garbage fire. They can be from anywhere and be any position, even if they aren't involved in the cup anymore. Who do you get?

>>544944758
remove coconut niggers, it's that simple

>>544944004
How cute are you irl?

>>544944004
superchats when

>>544944004
please ask everyone to say "danteh with the header" and rank them against the original danteh with the header

>>544944758
Replace >rape with Horsefucker

>>544944004
How can I exchange my gambling rigbux for actual dollars. Please, my SNAP has run out and I'm so hungry...

>>544944004
Gun to your head PES20 or PES18

>>544944004
here, a rose for you crimson

>>544944004
Favorite classes in RPG that you don't use all the time

>>544944004
Thoughts on Hideyoshi?

>>544944004
What part of California does Weedman visit and when will you switch from fucking >dicksword ?

>>544944004
Season 2 confirmed, let's ghost!

>>544944004
dodgers or blue jays?

>>544944004
Should managers be held accountable for submitting working aesthetics?

>>544944004
I LOST 50B BECAUSE JEWS ATE ALL THE MONEY FROM THE /k/ vs /an/ MATCH I'M GONNA FUCK A DEWD

>>544944004
Did a black manager ever win a star?

>>544944004
Onosato, Hoshoryu, or Aonishiki?

>>544944004
now that the 2huminati has taken over the cup, would you make it mandatory to have at least one 2hu rep? I can already see those that do not comply will fail to promote / suffer relegation

>>544944004
wich hors wud u fuk?

>>544945356
HT

>>544945356
JB

>>544945356
JB 3x

>>544945416
who would be /sp/'s rep

>>544945356
JB

>>544944004
sup
I wanted to maybe come talk about this final day but since this is happening I'll exploit this occasion
what does /admin/ think of the idea to semi-automate rigging through a web app?
It would basically automate away the rigging, timeouts, rigdio and stats exporting, unify a bunch of random shit we're using and make it talk. Managers, streamers, commentators and admin would basically make this shit become the one-stop shop for cup organization, replacing IRC and Rigcam. Most likely what would be left then of non-automatable on the day is just subs and pixel autism.

>>544945356
QD

>>544944004
Please ask Boris to talk loudly about the boss of the first Mario 64 level.

>>544944004
Not many people know I exist and the talking to myself problem is getting worse. What should I do about it w.r.t divegrass?

>>544944004
I'm gonna be honest, I voted yes on the poll because I wanted to see those sick tricks with goals, but right now, I'm not feeling this pes. please do something to change this 4-3-3 hell, the tricks are just too far in between

>>544944004
Can I merc /cm/?

>>544945543
no one's going to pay you for Vue.js Pajeetler

>>544944004
what are your thoughts on Sou giving the fetus streamer a run for his money?

>>544945919
why would you think I want payment

>>544944004
FB, Autumn 25 Day 5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqnO1pnFO_o

>>544945734
Become the /biz/ or /vrpg/ or /e/ manager.
Especially with the last one, you'll have somebody that knows you exist.

>>544945356
Crimson

>>544944004
How big is too big?

>>544945356
Crimson

>>544944004
Do you like to watch?

>>544944004
Now that PES20 has finally been cracked, can we expect it to enter the PES cycle?

>>544944004
Best reciepes for horse meat?

>>544944004
>be shit for years to no end
>lol lmao
>be good on a certified working tactic
>lol frauds
a win is a win, you can't say it's only half.
you made this tournament to reward those who use things that work, don't hate the player, hate the ruleset.
if you want >fun, then change the rules, it's that simple
I'll be laughing when /aco/ wins it all

>>544944004
Basic tips on flirting?

>>544946437
You should be asking Pilky that?

>>544944004
The PES 15 experiment was amusing, but now, what are we actually planning to use for Winter and Spring?

>>544944004
gimme a hug man

>>544946217
Watch what?

>>544944004
By me

>>544944004
Since /gd/ promoted PLEASE FUCKING CHANGING KERINING FROM THE /pw/ MODEL?
Just give him his OG model already. The /gd/ caretaker obviously isn't going to fix it, I'm tired of seeing Masked Kerning.

>>544944004
thoughts on trickcal chibi go?

>>544944004
What garbage is the dorito pope gonna shill at the game awards

>>544944004
Why didn't Sou sign up /4ccg/ for the VGL?

>>544944004
Learn Chinese already

>>544946761
ESL lole.
But on a different note, please consider making yellows permanent.

>>544946814
>he doesn't know
The tasteless retard otherwise known as /v/'s newest manager already put it on the team

>>544944004
how come moot don't want us man?

>>544944004
qd commentary be like: yeah. yeah yeah. yeah? yeah. yeah *hehehehe* yeah yeah

>>544947043
who?

>>544944004
what do you say to this man

is FB getting archived anywhere? I don't think I can stay for the whole thing tonight

>>544947114
Old man is going senile.

>>544944004
This is a black thing, isn't it?

>>544944004
Before every match, roll a die for each team that decides what their conditions will be. 1 is random condition, 2 is purple, 3 is blue, etc. Why? Because it would be funny.

>>544947236
if you get the link on your browser history you can rewatch anytime

>>544944004
Can you explain why the VGL's at fault for some of the must win copying exports at all cost thought process? Not really disagreeing I just always associated that with the /mlp/s and /sp/s more
Also when will you sign up /4ccg/ for the VGL?

>>544947236
Youtube >>544946053

>>544944004
I like the betting but these numbers are fucking stupid

>>544944004
Show us your butt!

>>544947114
Sure but QDs play-by-play is the best in the cup honestly

>>544944004
What spooky movie did you watch for halloween?

>>544944004
please kill marcoz and his fucking cancer bot

>>544944004
Does anyone else have any pre-game/pre-cup good luck rituals?
Personally I shave my pubes into the shape of a down arrow, I figure that this puts my dick in purple condition and makes it that much less likely that one of my medals rolls it instead. I won't say how long I've been doing this but I will say that it has worked the entire time.

>>544944004
I need to go afk, can someone (You) me when the questions start so I know the time difference?

>>544944004
what other plans are there for the cytube bot?

>>544944004
Remove managers

>>544944004
MISTUH MERRICKUUUUUUUUUU WHY ARE WE NOTTO IN WINTER26SU? IF YOU DO NOTTO GET /VP/ OUT OF SPRINGSU26 THERE WILLSU BE BUGSU IN ANUSU AWAITING FOR YOU

>>544944004
What is your go to Burger King order?

>>544947494
betting central bank is on it

>>544944004
It feels hypocritical to criticize teams for using successful tactics while also shaming them when they perform poorly or try something original that doesn’t work and get labeled as bad on FB. Could there be rules to encourage creativity instead?

>>544944227
/mycat/

for the /RAT/ manager, if you need help with aes for DBC hit me up, anything for the rats, my contact info is in the wiki.

>>544944004
butt it's butt, butts, your butting butt. butt buttn't butted me since the butt butt. I'm abutt to butt away your butt unless I butt you butt the butt and butt an butt butt in the next 30 butts

>>544944004
1) do girls stop after their orgasm or do they keep going until squirting?
2) is the squirt kind of like a second orgasm?
3) what % of masturbating sessions ends up in squirting?

>>544944004
Johnny Horsefucker here

When J F Kennedy was assassinated, his wife Jackie wore her blood-stained dress the whole day afterwards to show the world what America had done to her husband

When /mlp/ got relegated, I vomited all over myself and I wore that the whole day just to show the world what /mlp/ had done to me

>>544944004
can you ban >>544948194

>>544948205
1) Depends on the sensitivity of the girl, most can go for multiple orgasms, but most don't squirt
2) Squirting is a rare thing, but if they do, it can just happen with their first orgasm
3) I have been with a lot of women, but only one of them ever squirted
Also, it's just piss

>>544944004
How big is each of /admin/ members dick?

>>544944004
What is the name of the shiteyanyo goalhorn the /jp/ manager is a faggot who doesn't update the wiki and in their export it's just called "shiteyanyo-hand"

>>544944004
can you castrate >>544948194 already?

>>544944004
Can we make the bot commans not on the man chat.
Like , to bet, just whisper to the bot.
Have the bot just announce the results and top betters.
I don't mind the betting I do mind the tons of !bet flood in the chat.

>>544944004
i will be back, have a good night

>>544948573
Omoi - Teo

>>544948573
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmkY2yc1K7Q

>>544944004
Which team are you looking most forward to in DBC?

>>544948194
mating press rats

>>544944004
Off field what are the most competent management groups?

>>544948753
>>544948681
thank you

>>544947992
>blaming the game
>post ends in 992
Classic.

>>544944004
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cerkDJLuT_k

>>544944004
Why does /mlp/ still exist? Can't they just turn into an /uma/ board already?
>But anon, we don't need another horsefucker board!
That's where you're wrong, bucko! WE'RE A WEEB BOARD NOW!!!

>>544948478
You don't really want to know about mine.

>>544944004
Train A starts in San Francisco, and travels west at 300 miles per hour.
Train B starts in New York, and travels east at 20 kilometers per second.
Birmingham and /admin/ headquarters are 150 Fahrenheit apart. Where do the trucks meat?

>>544944004
Hey /admin/, why does Homulily have a grammaphone for an ass? I don't care about the symbolic meaning, I just want a /sci/entific explanation of why her ass can play music out of it! And yes if you have to you can bring in one of the /u/ managers. If he cannot answer this question, then he can put up his /u/ management position on the line tomorrow as punishment. If he loses, he can fuck off from here forever, and all his "accomplishments" will be erased from history.
NO BALLS

>>544944004
Could we have a section on the wiki page for each cup saying which versio of PES is used? Like, above the results on the right.
We're flip flopping so hard it'd be nice to know on a random cup which version it is. Right now its hard to tell.

>>544944004
Why is The_Cumson_Man so gay?

>>544949928
Because he's fat.

>>544944004
sorry KEKson but us XMASCHADS are taking over and there is nothing you can do to stop us besides coping and seething relentlessly

>>544944004
Please rig the draw so Rance and Kanami play against each other.

>>544944004
Why the autumn cup is played in spring?

>>544944004
Is it true you were the dollposter? 4ccg can't stop acting raped about him and always accuses him of being you

>>544944004
Where did the doll touched you?

>>544944004
whos the "potential man" of the cup?

>>544944004
remove managers and only let the /xs/ and /y/ managers manage every single team

>>544944004
play this immediately
https://files.catbox.moe/tgbwzc.webm

>>544944004
What could you propose to encourage more creativity and experimentation and have less people going "lmao4-3-3/4-4-2" w/o banning 4-3-3/4-4-2 come Spring/Summer?

>>544948976
Damn, someone beat me to lewding Kerning

>>544944004
Early picks for Best player of the tournament, Worst player of the tournament and Pulitzer?

>>544944004
who's going to stream the spoon blayoff?

>>544950843
More than one person can lewd Kerning.
He is cylinder shaped, just saying.

>>544944004
Within the last 5 years, Winter cups have produced more memorable elite underdog runs (Winer 19 /3/, Winter 21 /n/, Winter 23 /t/) than Summer also interesting that these all happen 2 years between each other, why do you think that is that Winter elites seems to have a tendency to give more memorable underdog runs than Summer Elites? And I mean memorable underdog runs that go past QF so Summer 25 /r9k/ doesn't count.

the ask admin segment is starting

hear me out:
/int/ 5-7 /k/
/xs/ wins
/lgbt/ wins
3 way spoon tie

>>544944004
Please shout NIGGER as loud as you can

>>544944004
"/mlp/ is the only board on 4chan left with any recognizable board culture. They have more events, meetups, and websites than all the other boards put together and had a convention for three years". They're the only board that actively cares about keeping Anonymous represented. Every other board is astroturfing and Twitter 2.0 shitflinging, and when confronted with something even slightly nostalgic starts shitting their pants with pleads to "retvrn to tradition" or whatever. /mlp/ lives by its own code and I respect them for that" - Crimson, 2026

>>544950759
Your options are to run 4atb, which will be 433/442 with ss/amf because 451 is very hard to make work with little payoff, or 3atb which will be 352/343 with 361 being the same. 5atb is near unusable off 17. That means for most teams, there are basically 2 team formation setups with some variations. Formations are not an important part of the cup and are not even the most important thing for tactics.

>>544944004
>vgl ruins 4cc tactics
>vgl ruins /4ccg/
where can I go that is not infected with vg shit?

>>544951992
Reddit, where you belong.

>>544951879
>2026
Stop leaking the script

>>544944004
Ass or tiddies?

>>544952056
r/4cc when

>>544952212
https://www.reddit.com/r/4chancup/comments/lez5ky/tounge_my_asshole_daddy/

>>544948976
artist name?

>>544944004
Given the others are talking about the UI, how does Boris feel about it for Winter? Surely he will be better prepared than the babby streamers.

>>544952305
>5 years ago
bros...

[version news] sou says 1.12 is on the table

>>544944004
why did 15 rape Bong?

>>544952850
akkolel broke him

>>544952759
[version news followup] crimson confirmed foreground's next goal is unironically getting 14 working

[Good News] /admin/ blames themselves for the transition to 15 being bad
[Bad News] /admin/ now seeking to use 14 next

>>544945417
The one in this picture

>>544952961
But why though? Seriously, but why though?

>>544951947
>5atb is near unusable off 17
Is 17 the most 'anything can work' PES?

>>544944004
18 when? 20 when?

>>544944004
Funniest greatest escape you have ever seen in 4cc history including memevitationals and/or vgls?

Sometimes I forget that Crimson is a VGL streamer who also appears on ASS. Complex person.

nurture lolcows and they will get your tournament humilliated

>>544944004
Boris, what went wrong with /co/?

>>544944004
Rank /admin/ in order of TOP to BOTTOM, /y/ style.
Then have Sou ask for them to be called to his gate.

>>544953165
qrd?

>>544953492
He said something like "can you make 14 not look like ass" and they dunked on him,This is the kind of guy you want to avoid because he only weakens your side.

>>544944004
Why is this not a bird?

>>544953492
Cog asks if the cup can use older PES versions without the aesthetics looking like shit. Crimson says only the VGL cares about aesthetics, and 15 haters are all VGLkeks upset about their version poll.

>>544944004
Is a taco a sandwich?
And will you make me one?

wataya playan??

>>544944004
Do a barrel roll
also send sou to uganda
>phoneposter

>>544944223
bong post

>>544951419
This is very true

>dumped into the same basket as mercbitch
it's over, this is actually a thousand times worse than getting spammed with raped or that doll

>>544953674
Boris will seethe about this post and say it's not a bird

>>544944004
Dorothy Batista, Dorothy Batista. Please call 62424.

>>544953682
Crimson is a baby but it's really easy to blame it all on "VGL cunts" when this total newfag walks in with the stupidest posts ever. Fucking retard should be perma muted too until he lurks for another 4 years.

>>544944004
>>544953674
>>544954018
Next he'll try to say these are not cats.

[rules news] sou is seriously considering 5 medals (and 3 subs) for cup cycle 2 on 15 and possible stat nerfs on all medals where golds wouldn't be on 99 stats anymore

>>544944004
Where's Dorothy?

>>544944004
QD forward this pic to Streak please
https://cdn.donmai.us/original/a9/c3/__hiyori_kotori_and_tsukuyo_blue_archive_drawn_by_gya_rb__a9c32196fe8ed7d18d89a601b3e5e43f.png

>>544944004
For posterity's sake, I don't like 15 because I find the play patterns either hopelessly boring or very frustrating.

>>544954329
right here

>>544944004
thoughts on the doyers winning bigly?

>>544954160
>no tail
Yeah, not cats.

>>544944004
We all know that 4ccg is mostly anonymous, but that doesn't mean you can't autistically notice certain patterns in postings, so do any of you have any ideas/guesses to who some of the people who complain the most about /admin/ are over the years?

>>544944004
oh no
https://files.catbox.moe/l78v4f.mp4

>>544953682
>and 15 haters are all VGLkeks upset about their version poll.
That's honestly pathetic. From both of them, but come the fuck on.

>>544944004
Any changes planned for Winter? Or do you run as it is?
Any other restriction coming for the models that involve punishments?
Are you willing to look for a patch that just fixes PES15 UI?

That is all.

>>544954792
He is so out of reality that he disregards the poll with mostly 4cc managers voting "no" to his retarded poll. Still fuck mercbitch for being a retard.

>>544944004
Wheel of PES when?

>>544944004
latin americans were always online , remember HUEHUEHUE? that's an ancient meme, but everything went to SHIT when the SEAGGERS invaded

>>544944004
Aren't you all NEET? How the fuck do you manage to still live with no mony?

My opinion of 15 improved after the cup started

>>544955393
This + indians

>>544944004
why won't you guys notice the poll results: >>544954884

>>544944004
Shiddy

>>544944004
When are we getting v-tuber avatars for the streamers?

>>544955490
why is she naked

>>544944238
Just a QD fuckup apparently. No monetised cup streams yet.

>>544944004
Are portraits theoretically possible on the PES 15?

>>544955804
Strip Mahjong and its consequences

>>544944004
best DBC team?

>>544944004
Which is worse with offboarders, /vt/, or /lcg/?

>>544944004
When is /trash/ playing?

>>544955490
it looks just as shit to me as it did pre-cup
every single goal is the same center throughball into 1 on 1 with the keeper

>>544944004
KEEP PLAYING THE PIANO CRIMSON

>>544944298
>Gio is DSP
>Maydave is EDP
>Half is Chris chan.

>>544944004
who's the LTG of the 4cc?

>>544956783
They are afraid of Half because he told them the truth.

>>544956853
BoB
>immediately malds at every loss
>never his fault, always Git Gud or the PES version
>bans people who make him mad after the loss

>>544944004
i come from the future in the bongmissioner era, what's the cup like?

>>544944450
You write an open letter to /admin/.

>>544944004
Sou, you know what I did. Await the shitpost box. This is not a threat, its a promise.

When's wrasslin

who the fuck is the grandpa

who is that ultra fat sounding guy who just joined

sgbong explains everyone is running 433 because experimenting just made their teams lose. Crimson blames this on the VGL. HT says managers aren't trying if they run 433.

Can /int/ still qualify for the Winter Cup?

>>544958076
morbidly based black man HT

Bad managers currently getting mad at current managers for running the meta instead of running bullshit.

I'm actually feeling in massive pain listening to that man's voice

Sounds like HT hasn't left McDonalds in about 10 years

boomer rage

We need a VGL vs 4CC: New Generation of Plumbers invitational to settle the score.

link to the vod where sda came on stream? for research reasons of course haha

>>544958572
wouldn't get off the ground because the plumbers would all want to use 15 while the ubereaters would all want to use 19

>>544958124
everyone is running 433 because anyone with fucking eyes can see it's just like PES16 where lo and behold 433 was the best formation

>>544944004
Literally every single board in the cup is a projection about what the board used to be or a projection, with maybe a new player about the new thing but that's it, 4cc has nothing to do with the current state of the site

>>544944562
Sou said you sound raped, QD says this is what a raped person sounds like

>>544958868
I'm not watching, are they actually trying to insist otherwise?

this bong heel turn plotline is making me realize im conflicted. hes making people mad i like seeing get mad for reasons i like, but i cant cheer for the lolcow

>>544958708
then we gather them IRL and force them to play an actual football match

>>544944004
>>544935879
your thoughts?

>>544944004
Can HT kill all of us now?

>>544944004
Do you consider the cup and related events like FB or comfy to be social or parasocial in their nature?

>>544958868
FUCK, I made a mistake in my spelling, my argument is fucking ruined now

>>544959591
My liege

lol

lmao

>>544959706
post the dose

>>544959706
welcome back king

>>544959884
I missed you so much

>>544944712
Jagex style taxation will be implemented.

>>544959884
Based

>/gd/ auto kills /mlp/
>incoming comes back with the milk
Oh yeah, it's all coming together.

>>544944004
Who among the remaining teams do you think has the best chance to give an absurd upset underdog run to at minimum make cup runner-up and make people potentially even consider what they were running for Winter?

>>544944004

SMISH when you NIGGERS

>>544958039
Anon... there's no easy way to tell you this...

>>544944820
>When will admin mandate that anyone using a 4-3-3 formation must use their GK on setpieces

>>544944004
whichvgwouldufug

>>544944004
Glad you're keeping the skeleton theme, keep the traditions hermano.

>>544944004
Will there be a garbage day this cup?

>>544944852
>Tard-wrangler
>Aesthetics
>Crowd-pleaser
These are the categories, go.

>>544960446
SOU YOU FUCKING NIGGER
WHY DID YOU HAVE WRASSLIN ON THE BIGGEST PARTY DAY OF THE YEAR

>>544944004
how many of you still actually enjoy the cup and how many stick around cause the cup has become your social circle

>>544944004
How long is Sou's flight?

You will now remember when Craig was raised from the dead and gouged his eye out on stream this week

>>544944004
Are corner 100% dead? Can't remember a single corner goal in 4 game days

[Romanian News] QD was raped by PES18

>>544959884
Gracias médico

>>544961130
No time to do it between now and the end of the year. I can't even do garbage day this season.

>>544945315
lole u gaye

>>544944004
can Sou come back before we finish the Q&A?

>>544945561
I thought Sou would still be in the call.

>>544944004
Italians will save the cup, the future is now, old man, you're OLD and BUSTED

>>544944004
Please play this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqnO1pnFO_o

>>544944004
Pilky's married what's (You)r excuse?

>>544946840
many are asking this

>>544946814
GTA VI

>>544944004
Why is the /h/ manager allowed to add himself to a team as a gold?

>>544947232
It's okay to be gay.

>>544944004
MYORE KYOTS FYOR THYE STYREME

>>544944004
tips for stopping my own heartbeat?

>>544964784
just die lmao

>>544947650
here

>>544944004
HUGE SWEATY DICKS. BIG FLOPPY ANUS. HOT MEN. HOT MEN. HOT MEN. HOT MEN. HOT MEN EATING BEANS. BIG BOYS EATING BEANS. HOT MILF. HOT MILF EATING BEAN.COM.

>>544948205
>>>/osrg/

>>544944004
When you will beat mansex is not that hard?

Whenever I see a poi thread on a board that isn't /myteam/ I leave a disparaging comment about the cup and insist that nobody on the board gives a shit. Followed, of course, by a report to the proper authorities

MEET POTENTIAL BIRD

/vp/ is declared the potential team

>>544944004
Who is the white boy of 4cc.
If 4cc battled for the custody of Dominik Mysterio who would win the custody? (It can't be /pw/)

>/@/ gets astroturfed by numberPOIfaggots
>/vp/ gets blownout and Bird on suicide watch
>POIfags are silent now
I'm noooooooticing...

>>544944004
Toronto is winning the World Series

>>544944004
did you guys ever see the new Magic cards based on Avatar? google avatar cruel tutor lol

>>544944004
favourite YTP?

>>544954709
You should feel bad.

[BIG news] PES15 will be used for VGL26 confirmed in FB.

>>544970583
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

>>544944004
you missed my Shiddy
>>544955736

>>544944004
SUUUUUURGE TWOOOO CAN ANY OF YOU GIVE ME THAT SUUUUUURGE TWOOOOO BABY

>>544970583
Extremely based if true

>>544944004
Salute the rabi immediately

>>544971601
I salute the rabi

>>544944004
Whoosh, I grant you the sweet release of death. You can end the stream now.

>>544944004
I cast counterspell on the last post, you will not be released unless you flip heads on a coin

>>544944004
favorite doujin tag?

>>544944004
No questions will be accepted after this.
(You) are free.

>>544944004
What's the one question you hoped to find while scrolling through these 200+ responses but didn't?

>>544968964
In six games.

>>544944004
If you reply to this post after me you're a nigger

>>544972614
THE GAME

>>544944004
i'm black how do i fix this

>>544972680
see
>>544965380

>>544972658
FUCKER

I'm going to lick my balls until I make a competent tactical export

>>544973575
Think you got the wrong door, the genshit club is three threads down

bros, why /admin/ hates us so?

>>544974795
so you don't know?

>>544975659
you tell me

Baseball is fucking gay at least I can count on my /m/ city to win

4CC team for this feeling?

Who is the Canada of 4cc/vgl?

>moneywinslol: the sport
Do Americans really?

Just rake my life into a million pieces.

>>544976594
>Implying footy isn't moneywinslol

Is there a bigger humiliation ritual than to lose at home

>>544979467
Spooning as hosts.

>>544976594
my nigger in christ you're in a thread about divegrass of all sports and saying this

>>544980681
virtual divegrass is a 2huwinslol sport not a moneywinslol sport

>>544981173
If only that were true /c/ would still be with us.

>>544981226
They were up against a 2hu medal

>>544981281
/gd/ runs a 2hu medal?

>>544981352
it doesn't but neither does /mlp/

>>544981426
So why was it not /c/ and /h/ who promoted?

>>544981487
Because the 2huminati expected one of them in the wreckage

/vg/ was put over /vp/ because /vg/ has a possibility of having a 2hu player

>>544981738
Have we started the fire?

>>544981956
You weren't supposed to reveal the script, lil' bro.

>>544981956
And /vp/ doesn't? The shadow Crimissioner even streamed an entire Pokémon game where you catch Touhous.

>>544982013
Yes the fire rises
I know I have on of Mokou in my baneposting folder somewhere

This cup, experiencing PES15 again, made me fatally nostalgic for 2015
I miss those times so fucking much bros. Both 4chan and the cup were so much more comfy, had so much more to show back then. The internet wasn't constantly under the assault of bots and political warriors. Everything's changed so much
Take me back

I voted 15 and I haven't watched a second of the cup so far

Enjoy your extra hour of sleep!

>>544983392
Twitter truly is our misfortune

Still can't believe /vg/ actually got out of that group. I love my board.

>>544949840
Here you go, now Bee

https://github.com/suikanon/16to21Upporter/releases/tag/v0.1

We made a prefox to fox aes converter, please report any bugs you find if you try out this initial version.

>>544993289
This vtuber is a funny one, hahaahahahahah

Didn’t know that Rindo(tm) from the Booth store (tm) was a /vt/ranny

>>544993289
Cool shit, I'll give it a try later.
You lads should also have a look at the simplifier (github link at https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer_2015/15_Model_Simplifier#Installation) since it's got a more modern wrapping which doesn't require people to have python installed.

What does BEE mean?

>>544995098
it means "be the change you want to see in the world", in other words /diy/

>>544995098
Broke Esoteric Ensemble

FB QRD?

>>544995195
Neat, I was thinking about bees

>>544995431
Everyone against PES15 is Cogbrush

>>544995659
not a joke btw they actually said that.

>>544995659
Who?

>>544995576
they fit the meme because they're the symbol of a hard-working being, when you tell someone to bee you're pretty much telling them to "be a bee"

>>544995963
The only person who is against PES15

>>544995431
Actual news?
PES 15 for the Spring/Summer cycle, maybe with 5 medals/3 subs/95 golds
Sou would like to minimize the number of times the cup switches between a Fox and pre-Fox PES, which means a move to 14 is more likely than 18 or 20 after that
Everybody is old with bodies and/or computers that are exploding
Kekkels wanted to do the group stage draw but something else came up so he'll be doing Ro16 tonight instead

If you want to know which managers are dumb and stupid or how the 15 poll was rigged by VGLfags, you'll have to watch the vod.

>>544997069
>Everybody is old with bodies and/or computers that are exploding
How is it that everyone is old but nobody has money for working rigs?

>>544997069
>how the 15 poll was rigged by VGLfags, you'll have to watch the vod
Can you give a timecode at least?

>>544997069
>3 subs
For what purpose, I guess because of the 5 medals but it's kinda meh
>Move to 14
Lmao
>If you want to know which managers are dumb and stupid or how the 15 poll was rigged by VGLfags
Admin is pathetic.

>>544993289
ew 21

>>544997069
>which means a move to 14
I think they're actively trying to kill interest in the cup so only their circlejerk audience remain. They got too big and they don't like it.

>>545000274
works for 19 too

>>545000654
What about the hot new PES, 20?

>>545000248
https://files.catbox.moe/7ifdod.jpg

>>545000401
It's a shit position to be in because the only games that don't suck are 17 are 19, both of which /admin/ would be right to skip for a while

If /lghtvb/ and /u/ draw do they both die if /a/ wins?

>>545002802
Duh, /a/ would be on 6.

>>545002876
Neta, I will pray for a miracle.

I'm not going back to PES14.

>>545004097
no one told you to speak *rapes you*

>>545000401
>They got too big
Yeah, no one could actually believe that 4000+ viewer count on the cytube yesterday.

Just waiting for my next chance to rape.

Real talk, what does /admin/ do, like, ACTUALLY do?
I can only think of Fore for modifying 15, f4r and Potato for hosting and hype, but what does everybody else do?
They will openly admit that they don't ever lurk this thread, they never test anything publicly for rulesets (this was especially evident with fluid stuff), they don't do Aes, they never do anything technical, they don't do gametips, they basically completely gave up on POI as long as it's "something", AND they act like THEY own 4CC teams (why else would they advise that /n/ not take place in DBC? What if the caretaker was planning to have matchday threads?)
Most of them seem to spend more time streaming comfy shit than actually working for the cup, and all they seem to be good for is barking commands (you couldn't have taken 10 minutes out of your day to update the cup's wikipages for PES versions yourself, Crimson?). >>545000401
I am unironically starting to think this. Either it's laziness or it's malice, any time any real effort is required, /admin/ is absent. Any time there's a decision made they never ask anyone and it's always the most dogshit, lazy decision that is more work for everybody BUT them.

Your DBC6 teams. Thoughts?

Changes made by baka managers:
- /ribi/ out for /tsab/
- /HoloEN/ out for /kotFC/
- /n/ out

>>545009563
i forgot to sign up can we have a redo

>>545009354
/admin/ needs to be as numerous as they are to manage /aesco/, obviously

>>545009354
You got raped Bong

>>545009563
>/rats/ last year
>/RAT/ this year
Damn, so only one of them survived the trip to Brazil

>>545010575
Try again.

>>545009354
>>544961141

dbc slots some time next week, deadline for everything is 30th november but 1-3 days extensions can be given if communicated
if you already have any group ideas shoot them at me, /4ccg/ - /BEE/ is a given tho

>>545010017
If you don't have a main team yet you can sign up under backups, they get priority over secondary sign ups and I doubt the 48 currently signed up teams will all submit

I kill God

>>545010994
/RAT/ has a Black Souls character on its roster according to their manager's aesco posts so they could be paired up with /wonderland/.

>>545010935
Did they actually answer this question or blow it off

>>545011509
they may as well not have.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7vWv3wUyP4
I have stood knee deep in the testing trenches and filled nets with central throughballs. I have seen two teams drop out. I have lain with the holy 433 and copulated with backpassing. I have self replied for my POI; I have downgraded my aes for a game where uvscroll never will be and starved the audience from good aes. A player's aes broken because of a rushed porting tool. A rigged poll on the 'cord. The viewers... The viewers, Crimson, bored and crying and annoyed and starved and repulsed and protesting and leaving. *This* is your coming cup!
They will rape you Crimson, they will make raped of you all and they will bury their keks into your face and they will
RAPE
YOUR
CUP!

>>545009354
I'm pretty sure /admin/ at this point is more of a tightly knit circle of friends than an actual decisionmaking body which is why you never hear from half of them and the other half sounds like they want to die (Boris in particular but also Crimson to a lesser degree).
I feel like the 4cc could use a turnover so that decisions end up (at least partly) in the hands of people that aren't constantly jaded and miserable, but sadly the community around the 4cc has been shrinking cup after cup so maybe the status quo is the best option even if less than ideal.

>>545011509
They pretty much said "we do interact with people outside the cup and we are involved in it because it´s still fun for us"

>>545012186
totally made up estimate but I think that to organize a 4CC event it takes, all told, about 50 people, between admin, aesco, managers/caretakers, commentators and tech people, and that's just people that are actively involved. With 300 viewers that means that AT LEAST15-20% of all cup viewership IS the circlejerk. That's a huge issue.

>>545010852
I don’t get why you would have an issue with them pointing out that it is inappropriate for /n/ to take part in a circlejerk cup

>>545009354
>Real talk, what does /admin/ do, like, ACTUALLY do?
If we go by the definition on the rules page, /admin/ are little more than the tardwranglers of the commish, since they can veto his actions and/or replace him (after a majority vote). Everything else can be done by the commish, /aesco/, /hype/ and the streamers, even the wiki hosting shit could be done by f4r and boris without them being part of /admin/.

>>545012659
Because sure, a manager doesn't own a 4CC team, but neither do they. There's been tons of invitationals featuring 4CC teams: Akkolel, Betabowl, Omegacup and so on. Who are they to act as stewards of a board's willingness to participate in a tournament?

>>545012809
Clearly that definition wasn't accounting for a possible shadow commissioner

>>545013042
And /f/ was also signed up to no apparent objection

>>545013042
>Who are they to act as stewards of a board's willingness to participate in a tournament?
This is the exact kind of problem they have with a 4CC team being signed up. A manager isn´t entitled to sign up the board to whatever tournament he wants. If the manager actually talked about doing so with the board and they agreed to it, then I guess /admin/ wouldn´t have a problem with it

>>545001005
should work for that as well.

>>545013042
Who are the board to decide when they don't even bother showing up to watch matches, don't have a single flair in chat and don't even respond to acknowledge the cup threads?

>>544997069
Huh, i would have thought admin would see the backlash and low interest and correct ship instead of doubling down, keeping 15 and then going 14 is TMA levels of bad decision making

>>545013524
So you're telling me a bunch of offboarders are more entitled to decide than the board's steward? I've seen it done with no announcement, but matchday threads to gather interest for the next real cup.

>>545013862
>deletes your divegrass thread minutes after it's up
Nothing personal.

>>545013915
No, that would be going back to 21

>>545013947
/n/ has a divegrass thread that's been up for a week, the fact the team doesn't attract fans is not necessarily the jannies' fault

Fixed 18 will save the cup from pes version console warring. Trust the plan

>>544997069
If they move to 14 when an unused PES is now available and useable that's in all honesty the point for serious talk about a breakaway cup with new leadership because 14 over any of the alternatives sounds ands feels more like intentional sabotage than anything else. 15 is divisive so yeah let's just go even more full retard when there's already strong opposition to the direction the commissioner and /admin/ keep taking.

>>545013915
They're in their own circlejerk, ignoring people's complaining because they come from outside it. At this point a breakout league is almost the only resource left.

>>545014430
PES20 is literally the same as PES21

DBC is absolutely a manager FC circlejerk invitational. If you think board teams are the same level as 23 versions of Cipher’s waifu then you agree that site moderators are correct about the cup.

>>544998913
>admin is pathetic
you sound raped by admin
>Can you give a timecode at least?
here:
https://www.youtube.com/live/yqnO1pnFO_o?si=EiuDLmx6PX4lVkN1&t=17595

There is unironically no point in switching PES versions. This shit isn't supposed to be serious.

>>545014543
kys Crimson. No one likes you.

>>545014613
We're governed by niggers like Crimson who care deeply about being the best at a diceroll, it matters to them.

>>545014649
how many times will Crimson have to said he doesn't go to 4cc willingly outside of QnA

>>545014918
yeah and how do you not see how huge this fucking issue is becoming? The cup is no longer 4chan's divegrass cup, aside from spamming 48 boards every six months there is NO tie to 4chan. It's a circlejerk of old, bitter men who think they own this game.

>>545014613
I like 17 because the attacks have variations, you can use different advanced effecively if you want, and many different types of tactics exports can work. If you want to look at it from a formation perspective like many people do, you could run 5atb and expect to not get blown out 3-0 for 3 games in a row. Not many people do, but you can if you want and it would be fine.

>>545009563
looking pretty kino to me

>>545009563
Too many vtubers and senrans

>move to 14
That depends if Foreground, Tomato and Crimson want to do back-breaking aesthetic conversion work for 30+ teams, because I know for a fact many, many managers/caretakers will not do it. They'd rather will quit.

>>545016842
I read this as "buck-breaking aesthetic conversion work"

>>545016842
time for chadderP to give /cm/ another star

>>545010017
A spot just opened up

>>545016842
teams that would for sure do it:
/mlp/, /u/, /vg/, /v/, /a/, /m/

Sounds like the cup admin wants to me!

>>545016842
shan't be installing personally

>>545014543
>circlejerk
You guys love to use this word so much I don't know what it means anymore.

>>545016842
I'm not quitting if they try and push ahead with 14 in spite of the obvious resistance from managers and caretakers and rising general disinterest in constantly having to fix and unfuck everything for further prefox experimenting because muh nostalgiafagging and making work for managers funny. I'm starting a breakaway cup and inviting teams, aestheticsfags, the hypfags, code monkeys and aesthetics members of /admin/ to join it. Hell if I have to fucking pay for the hosting for a new wiki and hosting a fork of isthisliv and hosting for other cup infrastructure I'll do it because enough is a enough. I'm tired of seeing the cup slowly decline and be the plaything of /admin/ and I'm tired of the constant cutting and changing versions. If it keeps on then it's time for a new cup, a new system that gives managers and caretakers more say in what the cup does and a new leadership team that aren't so jaded and disinterested in what the competitors who collectively make their cup want.

>>545017684
chadderP...

>>545017684
lol lmao

>>545017684
might unironically join this, /admin/ needs to learn they are not irreplaceable

>>545017684
If you will bee I will follow...

I don’t think 14 will be a thing

I don't wanna do a breakout league but maybe I DO want to do a cross-chan international meme league that isn't so goddamn tryhardy and jaded.

>>545018068
>cross-chan international meme league
vtl exists

>>545017684
ok, but don't be a faggot, keep your promise and BEE.
I'll gladly join but I can't join something that won't happen because someone will be too lazy to act.

>>545018110
kekypow

you can't even run PES 14

The /vt/ League is ______

>>545018232
blooming, the cracks are receding

>>545017684
I’m for it but >and I'm tired of the constant cutting and changing versions
A lot of this is driven by managers getting sick of a PES version. If it were just admin, VGL wouldn’t be doing the same thing.

>>545017684
I legitimately do not think something like 4cc can be replicated from the start again, it has been by some miracle that the cup has lasted has long as it has and has endured the kind of controversies that in any other community would've torn it apart. I don't think that miracle can strike again.

>>545018190
I just want to watch ylilauta to face off ptchan after beating the bilibili PES autists and before meeting the icup'(s revived corpse). is that too much to ask?

>>545017847
You can laugh all you like, but there are people around with the willpower to do the heavy lifting here and that could fund it.

>>545018572
VGL will finally become the biggest divegrass tournament

>>545017684
you won't do shit no matter how bad it gets

>>545018572
I'd host the wiki, the rigcam and whatever else is needed for it, day zero. Fuck it at this point.

Not taking everything so bloody seriously is and always will be the way to go.

>>545018723
Start contributing now then and people might take take you seriously. Hell, if you do a good job of it you might even be able to reign in admin before needing to split the cup in two.
Please keep in mind that a lot of people do not necessarily agree with your vision of the cup as outlined.

>>545018858
adminpost detected

Brother why is everyone so on edge?

You niggers won't do shit

>>545018858
Ok
>submit dogshit untested tactic and aes because can't be fucked with shitty new (old) pes
>get banned for breaking the acting in the team's best interest rule

>>545017684
You won't do shit faggot

>>545018878
/trick/ wonned

>>545018976
Dude fucking PLEASE don't BEE me, have you ever tried being a tech guy in the 4CC? You try to bring in something you're good at, people despise you for no fucking reason. Something not 10000% perfect with /yourthing/? Welp, you must be trying to sabotage us. /yourthing/ needs updating? Get to work, scum.

>>545019182
impressive, very nice, now let's see where they're gonna end up in january.

>>545019343
frog losted

>>545019008
God no, I hate them with a passion. It's simply not that important.

>>545018341
It's about willpower and bringing over the people who can do the technical heavy lifting and there's almost a critical mass of those kind of people who are getting alienated with the current leadership and direction of the 4CC. It's feeling more and more like the cup is held to ransom who want the cup to be something frozen in amber and stuck exactly as it was when they joined or liked the cup most with zero mechanism to remove any of them. Managers, /aesco/ and even /admin/ are divided, this is not like in the past, there is almost a large enough group of disgruntled people that the cup could probably split and reform in a new format under new leadership and either absorb or eventually replace the original cup that is hellbent on staying on a terminal course.

>>545019542
I think you are being too ambitious and idealistic for your own good, but I am open to being proven wrong if you can actually legitimately recreate the cup and keep it for more than a couple of years.

>>545019542
sounds like a lot of words just to say that you are a bitch-ass nigger that can't be arsed to BEE

4cc flopped bigly kekypow KWABOTY

>>545019542
To add to this, look at how a fucking nigger that should be banned and that CONSPIRED TO REMOVE ANOTHER TEAM'S MANAGEMENT with another cup circlejerk came up on first bait and was allowed to spew vitriol, falsehoods and insults just because he was a toplad from a known cup circlejerk. That same nigger basically made his co-manager run away, suffered NO consequence, KILLED THE TEAM, and is STILL not banned from everything cup related. Instead he gets to join and talk with /admin/. That simply is not acceptable.

>>545019542
Some people are upset with how the cup's been handled, but if you think this translates into wanting to put in all that effort for an entire new serious event then you're in for a shock. Most would rather retire or branch out, not do whatever you want them to do, and even those that did will have ideas that differ greatly from your own. Again, stop taking everything so seriously, it'll do you a world of good.

>>545019542
Disagreeing with the direction of the cup doesn’t not mean agreeing with your vision of the cup.
Doing a split would just kill both sides of the split to be honest but I am being genuine in wanting you to present your vision of the cup.

>>545019880
>basically made his co-manager run away
If this is HT then fuck Scoops

>>545019880
qrd?

>>545019140
Watch me. There are disaffected managers, caretakes, wiki autists, codefags, /aesco/ people even members of /admin/ close to being irreconcilable with the current leadership and their direction. As many as half the current 4CC teams would probably leave and join a new cup if the alternative set out better rules, more involvement from all competitors and was more focused on growth over catering to a shrinking and ageing cirlcejerk unable to move on or accept change. .

>>545020437
you won't do shit

A problem with revolutions is that revolutionaries can sometimes end up either becoming the very thing they revolted against w/o realizing it, or becoming so paranoid over previous administration and leadership that they swing too hard in the opposite direction which effectively only inverts the status quo instead of changing it. This is mostly because the revolutionaries sometimes only have spite motivating them and barely anything else on a genuine scale.

>>545020491
they might, all of this reeks of vtlfaggotry

>>545020437
>more focused on growth
Sounds nice how do you plan to focus on this?

>>545020570
nah
he won't do shit

>>545020437
i will join but only if we permanently stay on fox pes

>>545020437
Then do it nigger, get your rogue cup going and show everyone how you're going to magically solve every problem in the world
I'm looking forward to it crashing and burning (which won't even happen because it'll never get off) but at least it'll do your nerves good

>>545020535
first time listening to the revolutions podcast?

>>545020437
I’d join but only if we get to change PES versions every year

>>545020437
the super league is dead, florentino
let it go

>>545020535
I'm not the all lowercase poster and don't actually want to break out but you gotta admit, a very good chunk of the cup's problems could be solved if /admin/ actually BEE'd even once every one hundred times they're asked to. Instead all you get is "no, we've always done it this way, change sucks, let me go back to stream comfy, fuck off, I don't care, this is fun right guys! All this negative opinion was brigading hehe"

>>545020437
I’m still waiting for you to post your vision and direction for the cup.

Have (You) signed up for the DBC?

>>545020817
I’m different poster as well and would be willing to consider change if it was presented. I do think a good faith push for change would be to try getting involved now and leaving a breakaway for last resort.

>>545020817
well these are things to criticize admin for in the shitpostbox, or hell these are questions that could have been pointed out and given during QnA last night.

>>545021067
my managerfc is ready for battle sir

>>545021165
What's the point when /admin/ will just call you some variation of raped and keep doing whatever they want?

>>545021165
nigger that's why we're here complaining, we asked questions and got told all these excuses from people who barely even think about the cup anymore and don't contribute at all (again, Crimson could have just gone into the wiki pages himself and edited them to state PES versions instead of barking a command. If he's not dedicated to this, why is he in admin at all? Just for a power grab?)

>progress
>change
>growth
sounds way too semitic for my tastes

>>545021364
free free the 4cc

>>545021342
Shakes edited the tournament box though?

only real complaint i have about admin is whining about muh tactics variety then moving to another 433 my beloved pes

>>545021571
Shakes is a top G who actually does a lot of the work tbdesu

>>545021664
this
if you want me to experiment then stay on pes which likes experimenting more than others (17)

Is this all because we aren’t on PES21 with those eyesore aesthetics?

>>545020437
>more focused on growth
this is not possible with jannies breathing down manager's necks, they are the actual reason why the cup is in trouble

>>545021571
I don't have a problem with him, and I doubt the cup would have working aes without him. I have a problem with people that are only there to make the cup THEIR thing and slowly taking it to the grave with dumb nostalgia and unwillingness to change. I have a problem with people who think entertainment is second to tactical originality (who fucking cares?). I have a problem with people that govern this thing but don't do jack and fucking shit themselves.

>>545020057
Most people don't want the hassle of doing it themselves, but if someone else did and the alternative is more attractive they'd take it and move.
>>545020141
A split would more than likely be a short or medium term thing that eventually replaces the old cup with a new one in the longer term. Like any organisation that becomes decrepit, unable to adapt or reform it eventually falls and gets replaced by something that can once enough people organise and do it. Think of it as a Second Republic of the 4CC.
>>545020491
I've done it before for teams, I've done it before for invitationals, I'll do it for a breakaway cup if needed.

>>545021342
>>545021296
well acting like a defeatist isn't going to solve anything. What's the point of doing anything?

>>545021869
You won't do shit

>/4ccg/ spends months/years begging for 17
>4cc and vglel eventually oblige
>then /4ccg/ proceeds to cry nonstop about cornerslop, langball and 4-3-3 spam
>now /4ccg/ cries about game versions changing
you'd be whining regardless of which decision /admin/ took in that regard, because being whiny crybabies is all /4ccg/ is good for

>>545021831
I don’t think anyone who has interacted with Shakes could possibly have a problem with him. I’m just pointing out that your complaining about Crimson allegedly doing something whereas it was Shakes and the motivation was clearly not as sinister as you advertised.

>>545021869
Trip on

>>545021869
>if needed
We went from I'm doing it to I'll do it if I have too. It's already over anon

>>545022138
watch out, you are going to be accused of being someone from admin like Crimson now

>>545021869
You are yet to demonstrate how you would be any better than admin. Please outline your vision for the cup.

>>545020898
I'll post a fully re-written rules page and draft constitution for a new cup at some point soon, compare that with the current one.

>>545022171
It's not sinister but it is a pattern I noticed, not just with him, but mostly with him. You're in fucking admin, what are you doing yelling "wiki autists, go do it!". Makes you sound like an entitled asshat, who do you think you are?

>at some point soon
yeah it's already over

>>545022318
You're doing a whole lot of telling and very little showing right now.

Patiently awaiting a plan for this breakaway cup that isn't just "I'll make 4CC but goodly".

>>545022393
I think you just don’t like the guy and have blinkers on.
>>545022318
I look forward to it and am genuine that I will consider it properly.

>>545021571
Just for the record, I told the guy to bee because I certainly can't edit all of the last 10 years' cup pages on my own (though I'll do a few when I can) so I'll need a hand with that.

>>545022685
at least you did something concrete.

so what changes are planned for this breakaway cup which make it more attractive than the current 4cc

>>545022685
Rest assured that it how I saw it the entire time.
If nobody else does it, I will do all the updates this week.

Somebody needs to tell this guy about icup and how trying to orchestrate a split of the tiny territory that is 4chan divegrass worked out for them

>>545022801
Two more weeks

>>545022801
Blackjack and hookers

>>545022801
It will focus on growth and have no PES changes even though changing PES versions is something that was heavily pushed by managers.

no
the people in charge are evil and abuse their power
fuck crimson and fuck clown

>>545023012
BVSED

>>545023112
Bused?

give me freedom
give me fire
give me a good pes
or i retire

>>545022212
His OP already started with "if they try and push ahead with 14"

>>545023185
bussy

>>545023273
If the cup is so bad and in direction of change why wait for 14?

>>545023225
>>544944083
A good PES version doesn't exist, but 14 comes closest.

>>545022940
you know, you keep using icup as scarecrow, but it ended up having at least three "/admin/"s including Canadafag and running up until 2020 with six editions. I wouldn't call that a total failure, more like "mid-tier invitational level". And that's while eight basically exploded from under them.

Enjoy all the divegrass today anons!

why not pes26?

>>545023689
hello Lav

>>545023737
or 22, 23, 24, 25? Why are we always discussing 19 or 21?

>>545023795
Becasue admin is afraid of the new pes

>>545023689
/els/ for an invitational when Streakie

And once again, nothing ever happens

>>545018858
This is me, I just want to see funny meme models from different boards running, seeing the board culture of each board is fun.

>>545023364
This conversation is getting a bit heated. I recommend slowing down.

>>545023689
fat bitch

>>545024503
not even that fat

I remember the last time someone wanted to make a splinter league
and it was fucking Half

why not just do a breakout league with the webring imageboards? icup planned it, but that seems to have gone to shit
seems like there's a bunch of active boards that could take to it

He stopped posting so the /admin/ thinkpol have already gotten to him. Remember, this could happen to (You).

>>545024487
Please, don't leave comments if you have nothing to say.

I'd watch this to be desu

>>545025039
>zzzchan
/zzz/bro btw

>>545024685
Maybe this nigga is truly Half

>>545024487
Usecase for good PES versions?

>>545025112
I wouldn't be surprised

Funny how suddenly the narrative switched to "we're make our own league" after >>545009354 was posted. Really makes you think.

>>545022801
Making the jannies angrier to get more exposure to non-watchers in the site.

>>545019880
This reeks of half

>>545026270
is this "Half" in the room with us right now?
nah man I'm just sick of oldtime /ag/ toplads getting photo ops with admin while people that want to BEE get told to fuck off. That shit shouldn't belong here anymore, the only reason it is is because he's a toplad.