Thread 545687605

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Previous thread: >>544770841
Spooky time is over.

>Commercial games for Linux
https://store.steampowered.com/search?category1=998&os=linux
https://itch.io/games/platform-linux
https://gog.com/en/games?systems=linux
https://humblebundle.com/store/search?platform=linux&drm=download
https://zoom-platform.com/search/any/any/any/any/any/linux/any/any
https://gamejolt.com/games?os=linux
https://fireflowergames.com/products?search[platform][]=92

>Libre games, source ports
https://libregamewiki.org/
https://osgameclones.com/

>Generic launchers
Bottles: https://github.com/bottlesdevs/Bottles
Lutris: https://github.com/lutris/lutris

>Platform-specific launchers (*=CLI)
Steam: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux
Itch: https://github.com/itchio/itch
LGOGDownloader (GOG)*: https://github.com/Sude-/lgogdownloader
Minigalaxy (GOG): https://github.com/sharkwouter/minigalaxy
Legendary (EGS)*: https://github.com/Heroic-Games-Launcher/legendary
Rare (EGS): https://github.com/RareDevs/Rare
Nile (Amazon)*: https://github.com/imLinguin/nile
Heroic (EGS/GOG/Amazon): https://github.com/Heroic-Games-Launcher/HeroicGamesLauncher

>Steam Play compatibility tools
Proton: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton
Proton-GE: https://github.com/GloriousEggroll/proton-ge-custom
Steam Tinker Launch: https://github.com/sonic2kk/steamtinkerlaunch
Boxtron: https://github.com/dreamer/boxtron
Roberta: https://github.com/dreamer/roberta
Luxtorpeda: https://github.com/luxtorpeda-dev/luxtorpeda

>Other things
https://wiki.archlinux.org/
https://github.com/DavidoTek/ProtonUp-Qt
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/gamescope
https://github.com/flightlessmango/MangoHud
https://gitlab.com/Infernio/libstrangle
https://git.dec05eba.com/gpu-screen-recorder/about/
https://gitlab.com/feed_and_seed/webm_script
https://github.com/limo-app/limo
https://github.com/Kron4ek/Conty
https://github.com/scanmem/scanmem
https://github.com/mtkennerly/ludusavi

>Linux on other boards
>>>/g/fglt
>>>/t/linux

>thread dies on a Friday
>while I'm trying to reply to it
What the fuck.
Well, good thing Friday is the day of the week when I can actually be bothered to make a new thread. We're back.

>linux use up
>thread aliveness down
make it make sense

>>545572420
>>545573491
Not bad for an indie game. However, the giveaway just ended. Get fucked, slowpokes.

>>545688376
Not shilling it (haven't played it yet) but the latest freebie on Steam is rated well on ProtonDB:
https://www.protondb.com/app/390290
So is the one below that (but not enough reports for a rating):
https://www.protondb.com/app/862740

>pull in 2 random PRs as patches for gamescope under gentoo
>1826.patch 1867.patch
>it works on nvidia for me finally
epic

>Spooky time is over.
Well, I started another play-through anyway. Probably won't finish this one. Mostly because I didn't finish The Evil Within. Really I'm just fucking around but this game has more soul (i.e. it's objectively worse but I subjectively like it; bad graphics are good btw).

Wait a minute...
>look at moon
>check compass
Hmm, I didn't know Romania was in the southern hemisphere.

That walkthrough I mentioned a few threads ago wasn't kidding about punching being possibly the best attack against single enemies, by the way.

Damn, I'm the only Linux user gaming tonight (mostly watching YouTube actually).

>>545713495
I don't have anything interesting to post. :^(

Can't see shit but it's so cinematic.
Actually I turned off the super letterbox effect so I'm seeing more than the developer intended.
Anyway it's interesting that a horror game can achieve the "can't see shit" effect even when it's not dark just by making the post-processing stuff really distracting. Not that there aren't dark areas as well, but this light barely does anything sometimes and what it does is almost counteracted by the lens flare.

Just when I thought it couldn't get any spookier, I had to hold W in a narrow space...

To its credit though, it's about as scary as any other game I've played. I just finished chapter 7 which ends with a respawning (basically invincible) boss enemy, which is the best way to stress me out. Just horrible. And the worst part is I'm pretty sure I missed some good items so I'm thinking about loading my save and doing it again. Maybe it won't be so bad now that I've done it, but if the entire game were like that, I'd have dropped it by now. I want to KILL the monsters, and not just in cutscenes.
On that note, I am glad that burning fallen enemies isn't the same as in the Resident Evil remake, in which I had to worry about all the dead ones getting back up. The matches in this game are just a way to finish them off when they fall and aren't dead yet, or a good weapon if you catch one walking over another's corpse. In the last chapter, I killed one enemy from a distance and then saw another coming, and I didn't want to spend more bullets so I sprinted up to that fucker, stopped awkwardly in front of him, and dropped a match on his buddy. It was funny and satisfying. Attached image related; I'm not sure if this was the same guy, but he burned just as nicely.

If it sounds like I just don't like survival horror, that's somewhat true. I just suck at them, and I think some of the common game mechanics are too oppressive. If this game had limited saves, I would have uninstalled it pretty quickly. In hindsight, I'm an idiot for not verifying unlimited saving before buying it.
Anyway, look at these gross little fuckers.

>>545714704
Just be like me and post screenshots of GNU/Linux running games no one else likes, and hope it's enough to keep the thread alive until the other regulars return. (Did some of us get banned? I know our thread is always slow but dang. Might be the slowest Friday yet.)

played arc raiders for the first time
its alright
didn't pay for it, a friend got it free with their nvidia card apparently lol

>>545731027
When I bought my amd gpu I got starfield with it. It was for the microsoft store or whatever, so I contacted amd and said I cant use it since I'm on linux and they gave me a steam key instead. I played the game for 5 minutes and never touched it again.
Which game did you anons get with your gpu?

>>545687605 (OP)
Damn, I went to sleep and thread was No more, even tough I made a post before bed

>>545719525
You're lucky then, because you're playing an action game with horror elements.

bump

>Stab enemy in the back
>I die

>>545736369
arc raiders

>>545741161
That's fair, but to be honest, I don't know exactly where the line is. When I think survival horror, the first things that come to mind are tank controls and strictly limited ammo. Mainstream games will never go back to tank controls so it's a dead genre if that's in the definition. As for ammo limitations... well yeah, I'm not really starved for ammo in this game, but that might be because I picked easy mode for my first run. I'm tempted to try to quantify this and say it's not survival horror if you have enough ammo to kill every enemy, but that might be true of Resident Evil as well if played better than I could play it. Resident Evil is a survival horror by definition, but The Evil Within is more like Resident Evil 4, and I know the genre of that one is debatable. Wikipedia calls all of them are survival horror, but I suppose The Evil Within gets put in the genre just because Resident Evil 4 is there on account of its title.

>>545736369
>o I contacted amd and said I cant use it since I'm on linux and they gave me a steam key instead
Nice

>>545755374
When I attack this boss it switches to the boss view, looking at myself and seeing me attack the boss (camera). A rare 2nd person game view. This game is nice, every level is very different.

>>545736369
I didn't get anything with my 9070...

>>545755374
Fair and balanced.

>>545763505
>Yes it's a japanese game, how could you tell?

They put bombs on the stairs, so the player has to sneak down the staircases even though there's no proper animation for sneaking up or down stairs like there is for walking, so it looks like crap. Screenshot doesn't really capture it but the front foot is stepping on nothing half the time not to mention the back foot clipping into the stairs.
Level design department didn't talk to animation department.

I guess it's more obvious in this one.
I know, it's a common video game problem, but if you're going for cinematic photorealism then do it right.

Imagine if someone designed a real-life bomb that could be disarmed with a quick-time event.
I mean the bomb squad would still use the robot to detonate it from a distance because no one is going to gamble their life on their ability to whack a button when the needle is pointing to blue, but it would still be funny.

Anyway, here's that room I missed in my first run through chapter 7. Just a bunch of green goo jars.
I've stopped short of playing the boss again. The whole "escape the invincible monster and by the way there's a time limit" thing is just so annoying.

>>545779787
>>545780001
The fact that his shadow goes behind him even when the lantern is holstered on his ass is also a bit immersion-breaking. (Even when he's holding it in front, the shadow position isn't quite right.) But I assume a static direction for the player character's shadow was a very conscious decision. Having him cast a shadow in front of himself would be annoying to the point of making the game unplayable. Still, I'd have just not made the player's light source be a lantern that gets holstered mostly behind him. I guess the character design and animation departments didn't talk to the gameplay and graphics departments either.

Guys, I've installed latest Linux, what games can I play on it?

Not so fast

Immersive Gameplay

I could do better

>>545783220
https://cyber.dabamos.de/unix/x11/
https://web.archive.org/web/20250208185950/http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/xbomber/screenshots/
There are some old x11 games here. I've downloaded code from the early 90s and it still compiles on arch linux.

>>545779614
Kino

My 3-year-old is a Linux gamer.
Of course I'm the one who installed Linux Mint, made a non-admin account for the kid, installed Steam, made a second Steam account to set up family sharing with parental controls so he can't see Postal or Hunie Pop, set up Steam to run in the background on log-in, and installed Cartridges and to get a curated collection of family-shared Steam games and manually installed non-Steam games together in the simplest possible interface. But he can open Cartridges and click Super Meat Boy all by himself.
Hmm... is Super Meat Boy appropriate for his age? Oh well. Too late.

>>545804907
I dont remember when I was 3 years old nor have I been near a 3 year old in 20 years so I dont know, but isn't super meat boy way too hard for a 3 year old? can a 3 year old even properly use a controller/keyboard?

>>545806435
Yeah he sucks at it, and I'm saying that as someone who also sucks at it. His 6-year-old brother can do the first few level though.
Now they're taking turns playing Bastion on "no sweat" mode (infinite respawns I think).
I do wish the younger one would get my money's worth out of the Peppa Pig and Paw Patrol games I bought on Steam before he's too old for those.

MangoHud 0.8.1 ignores every option in its config that I tried except for `full`. What the fuck? I had to build git master because a basic feature in a stable release is completely broken and they haven't tagged a new release in 8 months.

>>545810690
Works on my machine...?
At least I'm pretty sure 0.8.1 is the one I have, and it obeys my config file at ~/.config/MangoHud/MangoHud.conf (or whatever the default is; I'm phone posting). But I do recall some things I did in my config not working until I set legacy_layout=0.

>>545813285
I copied over the official config from the 0.8.1 release and options like memory and font did not work. I was using it with gamescope on a Proton/D3D8 game with DXVK. Same config and reduced config worked fine on git master. Absolutely dumb that full worked but procmem by itself did not, I don't know how they achieved that.

>>545810690
>and they haven't tagged a new release in 8 months
Things like this makes me appreciate all the aur's *-git packages

she's cute
probably evil but cute

Not a horror game until there's a mansion, right?

This level looks pretty cool.
Unfortunately, it seems, either at random or at scripted points, the invincible main bad guy appears and tries to insta-kill me. I've seen at least one hiding spot in the level, so I'm probably supposed to use those.
I might be able to tolerate this if there are only scripted chase sequences and I can exhaust them all and then do as I please, but if he's going to force me to rush through the level by appearing every two minutes or something... well, I don't want to drop the game when I'm about half-way through it, but I paid much less than half price, so I won't feel bad about dropping the game if it keeps begging to be dropped.

>https://www.ign.com/wikis/the-evil-within/Chapter_9:_The_Cruelest_Intentions
>"At some point, the whole area will turn blue and Ruvik will appear. The time at which this happens seems to be random."
UUUUGGH
>"When it does, you simply need to run around for 30 seconds to a minute, dodging him. He will eventually give up and disappear. And if you don't feel like running around and dodging him, simply hide underneath the table in the dining room and he will give up a couple seconds after he enters the room."
Well, at least I don't necessarily have to play a trial-and-error game of getting cornered in rooms and hoping they have prescribed hiding places in them. How fucking annoying though.

>>545818810
I never tried changing the font, but what's annoying me now is that "height" seems to do literally nothing (but "width" works just fine).

All right save-room lady, you're coming with me. I need quick saves.

>page 10
wake up bitch

>>545810690
>I had to build git master because a basic feature in a stable release is completely broken and they haven't tagged a new release in 8 months.
Yes, I hate this shit as well.
FOSS developers need to understand that when you're not corporate developers you don't need versions at all: you don't have LTS releases where you need to backport things, you don't have release schedules, you're not targeting any time frames. What's more frustrating when developer makes a release, then decide to not make any releases with comment “just use latest git lol”. He doesn't realize that if you already made a release distributions maintainers won't use latest git but latest release and a lot of people who are not familiar with application release schedule (or rather lack off) will use obsolete, probably not working piece of software and will either delete it or spam issue tracker. Notable examples are mangohud, steamtinkerlauch, mpv, mumble.
Good example of fine release practice is gamescope: they don't have any fixed release schedule or milestones so they just tag release after some commit, so distributions can use latest tag, and it still will be somewhat relevant (although gamescope is broken most of the time so it isn't quite true, but that's another story).

>helping friend upgrade pc and parts that are 13-16 years old
>still on windows 7
>he doesn't want windows 11
>settle for win 10 ltsc iot
if he wonders why some games wont run on his rx 580 (a hand-me-down from me) im going to tell him to switch to linux

>>545857834
Should've bullshit him that his PC doesn't support both 10 and 11 and install Linux for him lol

>>545818810
>gamescope
mangohud with gamescope works only with --mangoapp command, then your config will apply

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Objective: Bully Imouto
Status: Mission Accomplished

Linux Gaming.

Real Linux Gaming.

>>545866051
>vodka
>look it up
>it was a japanese horse
expectations status: subverted

Haha, dumb rats

>>545863439
gamescope usage was through lutris which I assume handles that.

>>545833161
I forgot but I did reproduce it with a minimal glxgears test without gamescope or anything else and empty and minimal configs with common options like fps. Either an Arch packaging issue or 0.8.1 was busted. I don't feel like rebuilding 0.8.1 to test it though. I did re-use Arch's official PKGBUILD to build git master and all I did was add a workaround to use the built-in vulkan-headers since meson could not find the system vulkan-headers, so the only way it could be broken is if it needed to be rebuilt.

>Boon of Bhaal
When the good Gods will give us their boons? Why do we have to fight by ourself?

>kids are playing Ocarina of Time now
>they're yelling at me that the game isn't working because they're in an unskippable cutscene
lmao

Anyone here play WoW or any other battle.net game? I launch bnet through steam, but I've noticed that almost every time I launch it I have to log into my bnet account again, it's like it doesn't save my session or something. Anyone know a workaround, or do I just cope?

Fuck
How am I supposed to land an attack when she's constantly attacking herself? I guess by poison cogfiles are triggering her attacks.

I beat killer is dead now. It was pretty kino.

does battle.net no longer work on wine 8.26 for anyone else?

>>545898001
>wine 8.26
Nigga why the fuck do you even use wine 8.26 in currentyear?

>>545900429
I'm not him but maybe it's because launchers like Battle.net tend to be super finicky with Wine and may require a specific version, or may be enough of a hassle to get working that one just doesn't want to fuck with it once it's set up. Unfortunately, Battle.net also updates itself, which is even more likely than Wine updates to break compatibility, and that's likely anon's problem. Still, aggressively demanding an explanation for an old Wine build, as if Wine of all things never has a regression, is just silly. There's a reason that Steam makes every old stable Proton version available, and other launchers do the same with whatever Wine forks they offer, instead of just forcibly replacing everything with the latest.
It wasn't that long ago that >>545705409 would absolutely shit itself with any Proton version newer than 5.0. With 5.13, 6.3, and 7.0 at least, the performance was beyond fucked. Proton 9.0 seems to have fewer issues with D3D8 and D3D9 games than 6.3 and 7.0 did, but "higher number always better" is historically the wrong attitude when it comes to Wine versions.

>>545864439
holy shit I love boobs so much

Oh my god. Haven't sweated so much since Last judge
>>545902674
>maybe it's because launchers like Battle.net tend to be super finicky with Wine and may require a specific version, or may be enough of a hassle to get working that one just doesn't want to fuck with it once it's set up.
It's vise versa: for things like EA Launcher, EGS, Battle.net and Uplay you should ALWAYS use latest not even Wine but Proton because these things like to break and are actively supported by most Proton distributors. And using particular version of Wine just because there was some regression is discouraged by Wine devs: you should report this regression and on which version it happened.
>There's a reason that Steam makes every old stable Proton version available, and other launchers do the same with whatever Wine forks they offer, instead of just forcibly replacing everything with the latest.
Steam is doing many things, not all of them are good.
>but "higher number always better" is historically the wrong attitude when it comes to Wine versions.
Citation needed. Historically Wine is constantly fixing issues with each new versions.

I always use latest Proton-GE/Proton-cachyos with every wine prefix and recommend everyone else to do that same. Using some old as Wine version is my last resort when all other solutions to the particular game failed.

Yes, I've cheated! And I don't feel bad about it.

>>545904564
>Citation needed.
Second paragraph of >>545902674.
>But that's anecdotal.
Oh well.
>And using particular version of Wine just because there was some regression is discouraged by Wine devs: you should report this regression and on which version it happened.
The issue with Nosferatu was reported (for Proton, at least; I don't know about Wine, but if not reported directly to Wine, maybe it's the fact that most people interested in reporting bugs anywhere already have a GitHub account but are less likely to want to make a WineHQ account). Maybe that issue was resolved because it (or similar issues with other D3D8 games) were reported, and in that case, that's great. But it took at least a couple of major Proton versions for that to happen, because it was reported when 6.3 was out and wasn't fixed in 7.0, so in the meantime, you can bet your ass I'd rather have the ability to roll back to Proton 5.0 than have to wait years for the issue to be fixed.
And so I can only interpret
>Steam is doing many things, not all of them are good.
as a clown comment intended to piss me off.
Being able to download old Proton versions in Steam is absolutely a good thing for users, even if it would be more ideal for everyone to report every bug and for Wine/Proton developers to have infinite capacity to fix everything all at once.
Not that I'm obsessively trying it with every new build of Proton Experimental, but as of last time I checked, playing Deadly Premonition at all still required an older version. I suppose it's possible that, despite this game being such a notorious pain in the ass to run with Proton, nobody has ever reported the issues with it, but unless reporting it myself right now will cause it to be fixed tomorrow, old builds or Proton have a use case at least until tomorrow.

And "having old versions is bad because you should report regressions" is some real dgVoodoo schizo energy. Thank fuck the Wine devs aren't so autistic that they would try to eradicate old versions from existence like that guy did.

https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6185765
>Will there be an update of the distribution with chapters 3 and 4?
>There will definitely be no update of this distribution — unfortunately, the author of the distribution is no longer alive.…
);

>>545792578
>push button to continue cutscene
I kinda hate that desu

>>545915991
I wonder how he d—
>ru
Oh.
Many such cases.

>>545916553
It's only done for the last part of a mission where you execute the boss, and he says the name of the game "killer is dead"

>>545915991
>Native build: running
>Controller: working
LET'S FUCKING GO

>>545830368
Played more of this part and it's not so bad. I still fundamentally hate being randomly interrupted though. At best it's time-wasting bullshit.

>>545917078
Oh my god, ldd list was so fucking huge I had to put it on a vertical monitor to make a proper screenshot… Yet somehow they were all satisfied but libcurl-gnutls which was in the repos so it was no big deal.

>>545917319
Does the game use networking? why does it depend on http library

>>545917535
oh, it's made in game maker in a scripting language, so it just depends on whatever game maker depends on, even if you dont use all of the functionality?

>>545917535
Is it the only library that surprises you? Lol.
The real answer is it is some repacked Gamemaker executable so whatever retarded shit gamemaker devs are doing is in there.

>>545917958
most of those libraries are related to http(s)

>>545918070
and the remaining libraries make sense. Opengl, x11 and audio. Dbus probably for some gay system shit.

>>545900429
because for whatever reason it's the only version that wc3 works with

>>545900429
Pretty sure that's the last wine version that has a wine-ge version which that anon is probably using

Lethal Company

maximum gaming soon

Comfy maximum nostagia gaming

Using deku sticks as a weapon almost feels like cheating. It only takes 2 or 3 jump attacks with deku sticks to wreck one of the kid bosses. I remember not wanting to waste them when I played the game as a kid, but you get so many more than are needed for torches, so breaking them over the heads of enemies is really the only way to justify being able to hold so many. Sure, I have both stick-carrying upgrades, but still, even 10 is enough to treat them as ammo instead of keys (especially when the game will usually make sure sticks are supplied where required).

The aiming sucks in this game. Good thing I'm a pro gamer.

>>545965418
you can use mouse aiming in Ship of Harkinian

>>545966810
Oh really? lol
I was using a N64 knock-off/replica N64 controller, which is ironic because SoH assumes an Xbox/PlayStation-style controller (with C buttons on right stick by default etc.) and I had to remap everything just to play with the right controls (and it even had A and B switched around). The stick seems good, at least. I haven't used it much so it might be too soon to tell but it doesn't seem to be getting all crusty like the real ones did. But aiming with a stick in this game was always bad, so I'll definitely try the mouse aiming if I don't lose interest before that horseback archery minigame.
Are those the 3DS graphics?

>>545967786
Oops. Meant to write USB controller instead of writing N64 a second time.

>>545967786
I struggled for a bit with N64-style controls, then went and remapped everything. With classic controller you can set free camera control on the right stick, so it plays closer to most other games, as long as you remap item usage.
>Are those the 3DS graphics?
I have this installed, part of it is a port of 3DS graphics.
https://gamebanana.com/mods/477979

>>545946430
>Stalker 2
Aaand ruined. Should've been openxray

>>545946430
Has anyone figured out how to get Bedrock working on Linux? It's supposed to have better performance and draw distance than Java, from what I've read/heard.

For me, it's RetroArch's CRT and NTSC shaders. For whatever reason (Probably nostalgia), I can't get myself to play N64 games at full HD resolution. At most I can go for 720p, but I also have to throw various shader effects on top to soften the image and make the edges 'noisier'.

For me, it's RetroArch's CRT and NTSC shaders. For whatever reason (Probably nostalgia), I can't get myself to play N64 games at full HD resolution. At most I can go for 720p, but I also have to throw various shader effects on top to soften theedges and make the image 'noisier'.

>>545985151
That's weird. The webm isn't really showing the shader accurately. Shouldn't be able to see those weird vertical lines/columns of pixels, the real thing is much cleaner and looks like a flat screen CRT, but at least you can see some of the chromatic aberration effect on the individual pixels, that's coming through a little.

Here's another CRT filter I like. Again, in real time it looks better (Maybe my OBS settings aren't set up properly), but you can see how the image is softened up.

>>545981727
>figured
There's nothing to "figure": bedrock is a UWP applications and those aren't supported by Wine yet. Although there are two options to play bedrock in Linux:
1. There's a bedrock launcher that runs android version in a container
2. Some dude on reddit made wine distribution with WIP UWP patches. It doesn't support network play though.

>>545804907
damn, when i was 4, 5 years old i played Abe's Amazing Adventure on my father's now old Acer i-don't-remember-the-model-but-has-the-windows-98-logo-on-it.
Im gonna do the same for my grandson,
do the same for your kid, show him linux games to stick with, otherwise he'll likely switch to windows.

>>545987332
>>545987438
>>545987548
I didn't know you could mod Halo

>>545987771
Yeah, it's Steam Workshop compatible too. You just pick a mod, press the subscribe button, and it downloads and installs automatically. Every game in Masterchief Collection (1-4, ODST, and Reach) is moddable. And there's official mod tools for them.

There's a ton of stuff. A bunch of canceled/cut content from the games was also released as a mod pack, and you can go through and try out all the weapons/vehicles and stuff, even from the original Macworld version of Halo before it came to Xbox. The Halo 2 E3 demo also got released as an official mod.

>>545988823
Also, the mods work on linux, you don't have to do anything special if you get them from the steam workshop. Just make sure to choose the option that disables anti-cheat when you run the game. And then when you want to play online, reboot the game and pick the option that turns anti-cheat on. You don't have to uninstall your mods, they will just be disabled until you turn anti-cheat off again.

We need more native Linux games

CachyOS Masterrace reporting in

>>545999182
make one then

>>545924602
What? 1.31 works just fine on latest proton-cachyos
>please enable Change Hash because post spam filtered
lol what?

When will this roguelike/roguelite trend end? it's a shit genre. Everytime I look at a game and it looks interesting and then I see the forbidden word: rogue*

Why hasn't anyone played this? it looks very nice

>A game about dead dogs in heaven
It's going to make my cry isn't it

>>545987438
Serious Halo?

Where Winds Meet releases on friday, how high are the chances that it'll run day one on Linux because it's from Netease?

Hehe

Astarion did 100+ damage from hand

Does not it piss you off devs gave up making native Linux versions?

>>546030696
I'm playing native build right now. To be honest, I can't remember when devs made really native build before BG3: most native build were just Unity games.

Lol goodbye

So is modern Nvidia unusable for gaming on Linux?

>>545999182
Unfortunately we have a lot of Linux games unironically going around saying developers shouldn't bother with native Linux ports, because of what they see as an inherent problem with native ports being bugged or inferior, even though it's mostly a problem with native ports being outdated or poorly maintained, because of developers who have already abandoned their native Linux ports because of Linux gamers saying "Proton just works" and then not complaining enough when a formerly Linux-supporting developer releases a game that actually doesn't "just work" with Proton but rather requires some bullshit workarounds.
>>546030696
What pisses me off is how many developers release a game that supports Linux and then release a remaster that doesn't. It's incredibly common. And not just remasters but major in-place updates (see Dusk, Turok, Turok 2). I know there are reasons for this, like the original Linux porting work being done by third-party developers who are no longer on contract but it still sucks donkey dick. It makes Linux look bad when a significant fraction of all native Linux games have Windows-only "definitive edition" etc. remasters.

>>546034416
dx12 still has bad performance on nvidia yes, but otherwise it works fine. They are working on fixing the dx12 performance issue with a new vulkan extension, so it might be fixed soon.

>>546034416
It's usable but have some issues like DX12 performance penalty (which should be addressed soon), bad VRAM to RAM swapping.
>>546034615
Pretty much this. Redditors with "Just use Proton" mentality are part of the problem.

Let's rock

>>546031381
Modern tomb raider games had native Linux versions using Vulkan, but those games are trash. I think Wasteland 3 was also native but that's a more niche release.

So I've beat Baldur's Gate 3 from start to end playing so called "Native Steam Deck" build on my desktop with coop, Wayland and HDR. I don't know if you can enable HDR in native games on gamescope.

>>546037639
>Modern tomb raider games had native Linux versions using Vulkan
Those are not native Vulkan renderer but some DX wrapper made by Feral Interactive
> think Wasteland 3 was also native but that's a more niche release.
Unity game, doesn't really count

I will only ever use this

>>546037782
>Unity doesn't count
Why not? I can think of a few plausible answers; I'm just wondering what yours is.

friendly fire lol

>>546040797
Codecs broke a lot for me as did nvidia driver and cpu fans were spinning when I wasn't doing anything.

>>546031381
Ruiner, Dying Light, but they perform worse because opengl.

>>546019310
>Ruby's Rebalance Halo CE
Looks and feels like the original mostly, but everything is tweaked and rebalanced. There's some new stuff added but nothing ridiculous and all the changes are well thought out.
>SPV3
This one is not on the Steam Workshop. Full reimagining of Halo CE with brand new assets, weapons, textures, graphics, enemies, vehicles, etc, even the missions have whole new areas in them making them even longer. But this one might be a trip to get working in linux, the installation process is a little weird. Last time I tried it, it's not compatible with MCC. Normally you just have to point it to your copy of CE, but some update in MCC broke it or something, so you'll have to install your own copy of the Gearbox PC port of CE or use the Custom Edition version. Can't remember the exact process, but just follow the instructions and see if it works. It has its own launcher too with its own weird quirks, so good luck with that. Since I'm dual-booting, I just have it installed on my Windows installation. There was a guide I found for linux, but it's like 5 years old, don't think it works. MCC has been updated several times since then which has broken some mods even on the steam workshop.

>>546050897
Here's a section from Ruby's Rebalance. Those things are cut creatures from the original Macworld version that he added in.

>>546049562
Nice.

>>546050897
This is from SPV3. It's like a completely different game.

>>546050897
Serious Halo as in it loks like Serious Sam lol.
>>546050897
Last time I looked at installing SPV3 or another mod for the Gearbox version, one of the mods had an installer which iirc used .NET4.x and that was a hassle to get working from what i remember. You had to make a 32 bit wine prefix and set the version to XP, this was 5-6 years a go so I would hope that is fixed now.

>ruby's rebalance
i fucking hate halo but it turns it into a pretty decent game

>>546053597
>this was 5-6 years a go so I would hope that is fixed now.
That's funny, because I tried looking for a guide to install SPV3 a couple of months ago and the latest one I found was 5 or 6 years old, so probably no, I don't think it's fixed yet lol.

>>546053597
Ahhh, my bad. Thought you were asking for more serious mods.

>>546054369
I need to properly play this. Think I only got through the second mission but I've been more focused on trying to finish SPV3 and some Halo 4 campaign overhauls. I'm done with the Halo 4 stuff, so just slowly working through SPV3 now. I'll get to Ruby's mod eventually.

>>546055572
it's worth it. they managed to make the library not boring bullshit.

you can see me kinda panic in this webm lmfao

>>546055643
lol, yeah that looks like a good time

>>546057554
>bowling ball to the face
Ouch

>>546034615
>a lot of Linux games
gamers*
At least I'll never be mistaken for AI as long as I continue to have at least one stupid-ass typo per post. (Then again they've probably already got LLMs that make mistakes to disguise the slop.)

didn't realize the last release was back in march

>>546063757
>Then again they've probably already got LLMs that make mistakes to disguise the slop.
Was about to mention this, lol. Only a matter of time before AI becomes as dumb as us.

It's a shame that native linux ports aren't a higher priority. I thought my old dual-core laptop wasn't capable of 3D graphics (Can't even run Terraria or Bejeweled 3 at a reasonable framerate so I only used it for emulating NES/SNES games (Where even the SNES games get stutters occasionally), but then I installed Super Tux Kart and Open Arena just for shits and giggles, and it's like the world just opened up. Those games are arguably PS2/Gamecube-level graphics, it's insane that that old laptop can run them at high settings with a nice framerate when it takes like 30 seconds just to load a youtube webpage with all the thumbnails even on the fastest/lightest version of Mint with only two browser plugins.

>>546031381
Factorio

What the fuck is his problem? I just want to collect green gel.

Cool.

lol. For fuck's sake. I just forgot the image on a one-word post.

Cute mannequin. 10/10, would look at for slightly too long while passing the women's section at the clothing store.

I was afraid it would come to life, though, so I punched it.
I, uh... I think it was just a mannequin.
I don't do that at the clothing store btw

posting old pics of some hl2 beta version I had a while back

What do you guys use to monitor performance? Something with an overlay that shows CPU/GPU activity and temps or something.

>>546081371
htop and amdgpu_top on another monitor

>>546082232
i kinda wish they went with the idea that the citadel was this uncanny mashup of a bunch of human materials

>>546045323
Native builds of unity games are just 2 clicks in unity editor and developers really can't do anything other than that. For example they can't dynamically link to SDL. You can even make a native Linux build from Windows unity game by substituting unityplayer without even access to source project.
>>546075854
Yep, forgot about that. That's an excellent Linux build.

>>546082232
For me it's brop.

>>546081371
Mangohud, btop, radeontop, sensors, depending on what I'm doing.

GNUmp

>>546081371
MangoHud for gaming overlay
Psensor for general temperature monitoring

>>546083196
>brap

haha drones go brrr
>spontaneously die to a shitty little enemy that pops up next to me while waiting for the portal to open
frick

>>546075854
I was right, GNOME holds back Wayland development and the other DE devs should just ban/blacklist those fuckers from being involved.

>>546040797
Why do you use it and why don't you use something else?

Can't wait for game developers to use SDL GPU API instead of Metal, Vulkan, DX12 directly.
https://wiki.libsdl.org/SDL3/CategoryGPU
Imagine what sdl3-compat library would be lmao

These are the "people" who define our desktop experience, lmao

>>546124609
mentally ill people without any social life are the best coders

>>546124609
>sebastian wick

>>546127216
>>546124609
Sebastian wick is also the guy that reverted dpi support in the xorg server because "wayland is just around the corner", in 2008.

>game's last difficulty progression is exponential instead of linear
fuck you too, Randy "The Grease" Pitchford

>>546135295
It was like that in persona 2 on ps1 for me. I was going through the game easily until I got to the nazis and even the simplest mobs killed me everytime. Turns out that I had missed a huge part of the game (the persona system) since it was never explained and it was too late to do it now.

>>546135295
Is that BL4? I remember BL3 was piss easy untill mayhem.

>>546136414
BL 2

bump

);

Strange dude

Final mask
Now my body is ready

I'm making progress on creating sandboxed launch script for Lutris. I didn't like firejail and bubblewrap.

wish protondb or some place actually mentioned dxvk options that fix issues with games.

>>546124609
Wayland won.

>>546122741
Whag does this mean? Is it a good or a bad thing?

>>546158648
Yep, now it's much better and gives me just enough sandboxing

>>546067665
finally, it was unusable for me all this time because I insist on using wayland.

>>546164901
???
I've been using it on Wayland the entire without problems (although I was using git version because it had important fix for HDR).

>>546165397
git versions is the latest version, so what's there to get. the hotkey to hide it doesn't work on the current release on wayland.

>>546162059
It's an intermediate graphics API just like ANGLE and like Unity and Unreal Engine are using. If developers start targeting SDL GPU API instead of DX12/Vulkan/Metal it simplifies porting task because now you can write graphics code one time and just compile application on Windows/Linux/Mac, and it will use DX12/Vulkan/Metal on each platform respectively. Of course there's still question of shader format. On Windows and Linux you can use spir-v, no big deal, but for iToddlers shaders would need to be recompiled.

Saw that linux thread on /v/ and it made me test my Rome Total War(2004) steam copy and as expected it runs like shit, despite dxvk fixing its performance on Windows.
I guess reporting this issue isn't worth it because the remaster exists.

>>546166856
it's not an abstraction layer like NVRHI?

>>545902674
Usecase for software regressions?

>>546034802
>it might be fixed soon.
On that grade A copium your there buddy. They aint fixing that shit any time soon

>>546179731
The cause of the issue has been found by a collabora dev. It has to do with how nvidia driver is designed with regards to vulkan descriptors. The new vulkan extension will provide a much more efficient way to do it which will be nvidia friendly. Nvidia implements vulkan extensions very quickly so it should be fixed when the vulkan extension is released and when dxvk implements it. Issues previously with nvidia haven't been fixed because they didn't find the root cause and because the root cause have often been a side effect of the driver design which is hard to fix.

>>546180448
Any links to this? I read once that they acknowledged the existence of this bug, but that was months ago probably I dont know the year is flying by

>>546181383
https://indico.freedesktop.org/event/10/contributions/402/attachments/243/327/2025-09-29%20-%20XDC%202025%20-%20Descriptors%20are%20Hard.pdf
And yes, the person that made this pdf is a tranny

>>546182559
>>546181383
the relevant section starts on page 64

>>546182559
Pretty much all big name gpu devs are trannies. This person that found the issue and is working on vulkan extension, all asahi linux devs (who work on reverse engineering the mac gpu driver), the lead gpu dev at apple and misyltoad who works at valve with dxvk, vkd3d, gamescope and hdr

Isn't linux gaming just normal gaming nowadays? I haven't ran into any major linux specific issue in like 2 years.

>>546187147
Yeah shit justwerks nowadays. Everything is mostly plug-and-play once you set it up for the first time. It's even easier if you only get fucked in the ass by paying steam for proprietary malware. Most issues I faced are due to shared games

>>546187147
catherine still doesn't work properly

>>546192073
Work on my machine. It's called an emulator you stupid fucking cuuuuun

>>546192073
But how is that related to linux?

>>546187147
>normal
Ignoring the obvious fact that a lot of anti-cheat still blocks Linux (which is fine because I unironically don't care about those games), workarounds are still needed for legal-related issues like proprietary video codecs. If you think that problem is already solved, then it's probably because you've already done the workarounds. A game doesn't "just work" until you can do a fresh install of Linux, install Steam, download a game, and run it with the included compatibility tools. Valve does server-side video transcoding now (which we can pretend isn't a workaround if Valve does it for us), but that doesn't happen until players actually hit the broken cutscenes first and I still get color bars in some old games because people don't finish them, e.g. >>545705409. Meanwhile, doesn't "just work" at all for most platforms that aren't Steam. You can say the use of Heroic Games Launcher as a substitute for Epic Games Launcher isn't a Linux workaround, if some Windows users are on that thing too, but if Linux gaming were just normal (read: normie) gaming, then you could just download Epic Games Launcher and double-click it. Or maybe you can (with Wine as default application for .exe files); I haven't tried. lmao
Anyway my other rebuttal is that Linux gaming is better than normal because we have gamescope (but please pretend that gamescope is bug-free already even though I know it's not).

>>546185762
why tho
I mean, seinfeld meme text, but like, why

>>546193363
it's related to linux gaming issues

>>546197867
Autism. Highly correlated with male to female transsexuality. But who knows why.

>Recommended memory: 32 GB RAM
wtf are these games smoking

>>546197201
>a lot of anti-cheat still blocks
You shouldn't be running those programs at all. Even more so after the recent RCE exploit found in easy anticheat.
>Epic games launcher
Does anyone actually use it?
>Nosferatu
That game is from 2003, it literally doesn't work on modern windows.
>workarounds are still needed for legal-related issues like proprietary video codecs. If you think that problem is already solved, then it's probably because you've already done the workarounds. A game doesn't "just work" until you can do a fresh install of Linux, install Steam, download a game, and run it with the included compatibility tools. Valve does server-side video transcoding now (which we can pretend isn't a workaround if Valve does it for us), but that doesn't happen until players actually hit the broken cutscenes first and I still get color bars in some old games because people don't finish them
This is complete word salad and means absolutely nothing.

>>546198361
Your entire ram.
>Storage: 30MB
.kkrieger is that you?

>>546200147
Basically proton works by sending all of what you play to a valve server in real time which converts all the commands and calls from windows to linux. I wouldn't say proton "just works" since it requires a strong internet connection and lacks privacy since you're sending everything to valve.
>That game is from 2003
It would still work better on windows than linux.

>>546201963
Proton works offline and nosferatu crashes on windows 11.

>>546200147
>>a lot of anti-cheat still blocks
>You shouldn't be running those programs at all. Even more so after the recent RCE exploit found in easy anticheat.
That's why I already said I don't care about them.
>>Epic games launcher
>Does anyone actually use it?
Presumably.
>>Nosferatu
>That game is from 2003, it literally doesn't work on modern windows.
But the cutscene issue with running the game in Proton is a Linux gaming problem. If it's worse off on Windows, then cool, that's more evidence that Linux gaming is better than "normal" gaming. I don't know what debate you think we're having, but every game working perfectly on Windows wasn't something I was trying to prove.
>>[Discussion of proprietary video codecs and Valve's server-side video transcoding for Proton]
>This is complete word salad and means absolutely nothing.
No. Sorry if I used the wrong word somewhere, but if you're not just being pedantic then you're just wrong. The server-side video transcoding part isn't very well documented anywhere, so it's understandable if you're unaware of it, but Steam downloads remotely transcoded videos to the shader cache. This is done as an alternative Proton including the media codecs that Valve cannot legally distribute. If I've gotten something wrong then explain which part, because calling all of it "word salad" just signals that you don't understand it.

>>546206430
>as an alternative Proton including the
*alternative to

kino
this part was actually stupid af

This game is 100% off for another day-and-a-half or so.
A few ProtonDB reports say the native Linux version of this game doesn't work, but it Works On My Machine™ so far. Maybe other reports were from before Steam started using Steam Linux Runtime 1.0 by default for native games.
Anyway, I kinda hate the art style which is probably supposed to be the selling point. But it was $0 and I wanted to see if it runs.

>>546212024
Apparently achievements don't work in the Linux version because it doesn't load some Steam API shit properly. (One of the ProtonDB reports also mentions this.) But it's fixable according to this Steam forum post.
This dude should just put a more concise list of steps on PC Gaming Wiki. What a shame that we're still posting fixes on forums in $(date +%Y). Did PCGW ever make a dent in this problem? Because that was the whole point of it. And it's still there, even though it's not very active, and frankly seems abandoned sometimes.

>>546206430
Not only did you use term wrongs, you used them in a way that made no sense whatsoever. You quantify the process of word-creation in a non-euclidean way. Without hyperbole, this was quite elliptic of you. If you see what I mean.
The codec issue you mention is mostly fixed by the fact that patented codecs are rarely used and when they are, they're generally done in engine, which means that you can bypass the need to have the codec yourself by metaphorically "translating the translator". That part is not done server side. The only server side feature is pre cache shaders, which only saves you the work of having to create your own cache (which is barely noticeable if you have a good cpu). It's the equivalent of copying a cheatsheet instead of making one yourself, which valve got from someone who did it themselves because no one had done it before.
One notable exception (until last year) was unity which did NOT handle codecs in engine. This is why video cutscenes would crash on windows 7.

>>546214069
I'll repost it :^)

>>546215027
>The codec issue you mention is mostly fixed by the fact that patented codecs are rarely used and when they are, they're generally done in engine, which means that you can bypass the need to have the codec yourself by metaphorically "translating the translator".
Rarely isn't the same as never, and it's common enough that Valve had to engineer a solution for it (not to mention that fixing video playback with patches too legally problematic for Wine/Proton is one of the key features of Proton-GE). Why exactly do you think there's a file called "transcoded_video.foz" in so many of my Steam games' shader caches? I suppose you think it does nothing.
>That part is not done server side. The only server side feature is pre cache shaders...
Okay. I'm sorry that you're wrong.
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/issues/8678#issuecomment-2868822261
That's Valve's GitHub moderator confirming that, when Proton does not have the codec needed to play a game's cutscenes, they are transcoded remotely (i.e. server-side) and distributed via the shader cache, as I already stated. If you still don't believe it, feel free to go over to GitHub and tell kisak-valve that he's wrong about how Proton works.

>>546171149
They're pretty much similar, yeah

>>546198361
Maybe they didn't fix a memory leak.

I've had the wine-wayland driver crash once and now I'm too scared to keep using it

>>546237403
You mean wine crashed using wine Wayland, or wine-wayland driver caused your system to crash?

>>546237562
Just the game crashing when it worked just fine otherwise, making me lose like 20 mins worth of progress

>>546238519
Well, that might happen because it's still in experimental state. But let me clarify: you're using kwin Wayland, right?

>>546228526
Interesting. I checked my 100 most played game on steam and the only game that has it is monster hunter world. It seems to be a rare edge case solution. Deleting the file automatically redownloaded it with pre cache turned off.

>>546241204
>you're using kwin Wayland, right?
Yes, and iirc it crashed as I was adjusting the volume I think?
But yeah I figured it's still considered experimental for a reason

Valve is experimenting with LLVM built Proton and it looks like CachyOS Proton already has builds up

Ok, this is my final version of sandboxing script. I've finally realized my long-standing wish: to sandbox the shit out of Lutris and all the Wine (and even native) shit so rogue executable won't encrypt all my data. Well, at least it will protect from some basic lazy windows shit: I'm not doing some crazy stuff like filtering dbus while using dbus-proxy or limiting access to ipc/proc, so let's hope for the better.

>>546271979
Why sandbox through systemd-run in particular? Isn't it meant for daemons?

>>546275413
I'm systemd-maxxing. And not exactly, with systemd-run you can use systemd sandboxing capabilities for regular programs.

>>546271979
you seem knowledgable.
I run my VPN on my system all the time. Do you know a simple way of letting a game bypass the VPN and directly connecting to my router IP?
Mullvad has a split tunneling feature but you can't permanently split-tunnel apps like on android

welp, that's it folks, Valve is now focusing 100% on ARM
it's been nice gaming on Linux while it lasted

>>546280009
isn't their vr headset just arm? or is the new steam box also arm?

>>546280009
https://store.steampowered.com/sale/steammachine
>CPU
>Semi-custom AMD Zen 4

New steam hardware

>>546280009
>it's been nice gaming on Linux while it lasted
?
But also nice, the vr headset has eye tracking and foveated rendering

How are we feeling about the Steam Machine?
I'll be skipping it since my PC is already pretty good, but I will definitely be picking up one of those new Steam Controllers.

>VR Headeset: SteamOS
>Prebuild PC: SteamOS
Linux chads rise up

>>546283827
I have no use for it, but I know many people that would find it useful

>>546285003
and also I hope they are able to sell it at a console price, meaning at no profit or even at a loss and make up for it in steam game sales

>>546285003
VR headset running GNU/Linux is actually godsent. I was hesitating buying any Quests because of facebook account fuckery

If the steam machine is more than 600 USD it's dead on arrival. I think even 550 is too much. Ideally it's less than 500. There's no way those dogshit specs are worth that much

>>546286206
>I was hesitating buying any Quests because of facebook account fuckery
Same, and I know multiple people that have avoided quest because of that. From the ltt video it also seems like they use foveated streaming, so they reduce the video stream size a lot by only displaying high quality where you look and linus wasn't able to notice any quality loss when looking around. With this it seems to be as responsive as valve index, so better than quest.

>>546288453
How is AMD RDNA3 dogshit?

>>546281745
Isn't hdmi 2.0 limited to 4k 60hz? I wonder if they mean with compression

>>546283827
Ill get the controller if someone makes a tool to configure it without steam running

>>546288453
Valve will clearly be forcing AMD's hand in int8 FSR4.

>>546243709
Krashes
Werks on gnome.

Box64 bros... not like this...

>>546283827
It looks beautiful but it's probably not very upgradable, so I wouod rather build my own pc.

>>546291001
CPU and GPU are BGA but the memory can be swapped.

Mangohud fixed crashing with Steam Overlay in OpenGL games

>>546283827
Sounds cool for a living room or maybe for doing a lot of travel
I like my pc though

Fuck steam, distributor of proprietary malware

Cute heckin wholesome big chungus game. Recommended for kids.

>>546304685
>not a shitbull

>>546305869
Now that you mention it, I haven't seen any pitbulls in heaven yet. The game is about dogs that die first and await their owner at the gates of heaven.

>>546307582
there are also dead babies in heaven, lets see if the game gets dark

>>546307863
Actually, I missed this. I guess it's not a game for kids

>>546305869
It's a south korean game, so I dont know if they are aware of african american culture like that. But there are some references to western movies, like john wick.

The new steam vr headset looks promising, but only if I can my older non vr titles on it, I don't want gimmick bullshit and all the shit around it.

>>546312486
You mean using the vr headset like a monitor? yeah you can do that

>>546312824
yeah, though I hope Valve does implement features for it like how vorpx and that unreal engine plugin have for windows

>>546313157
I did that back in 2019 on linux with valve index. I created my own software for it + used vkbasalt/reshade. I created my own software that allows you to view any window on your computer in vr with side by side stereoscopic view and then ran games with vkbasalt/reshade to turn them into stereoscopic games if they didn't support that themselves natively.

>>546313480
that's very nice, you ever gonna release/update your program?
though vkbasalt isn't developed anymore and I only managed to get reshade to work with steamtinkerlaunch

>>546313480
Here is the software: https://git.dec05eba.com/vr-video-player/about/ It was originally made to view vr videos, but it automatically worked for games as well. Gamescope supports vr, so gamescope could implement something similar directly in the compositor

>>546313978
I dont use vr that much often but the software still works. You can actually use it from steamtinkerlauncher as well. The dev was the one that told me that it can work for games if it supports side by side stereoscopic view with vkbasalt/reshade (or native support in the game).

>>546313987
>>546314259
thanks, gonna bookmark it and when I get my hands on the steam frame next year I'll use it

>>546314436
yeah, just found the VR setting in steamtinkerlaunch

usecase for bumping a dead thread?

>>546317504
Use-case for letting threads die?

Use case for use cases?

wouldn't

Hill Winds are a bit unorthodox for a wizard, but hey it wor-ACK! I really thought I could slip out after quagmire...

>>546283827
I've been meaning to get a new PC for a while, but I'm always too lazy to choose parts or too afraid I'll pick the wrong ones, so I've been putting it off for years. So I'll be tempted to buy a Steam Machine, but it will depend on price.
I didn't know about any of this until a few minutes ago, by the way. I saw some posts on /v/ about a Steam "announcement" and figured it was just Steam Frame. But a new Steam Machine is so much better.

I wonder if Steam Frame would support desktop mode