In This Edition: Snatching Defeat From The Jaws Of Victory!

>Live Patch = 4.1.1
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/en/comm-link/Patch-Notes/20598-Star-Citizen-Alpha-411
>Evocati/PTU Patch = N/A
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/190048?page=1&sort=last-activity

>Star Citizen Overview for New & Returning Players
https://rentry.org/guier/

>Compiled List of Useful Resources
https://rentry.org/rbrcz

>/SCG/ Referral Code Randomizer - Contribute your code by finding it here: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/referral-program then reply to the OP
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15pvHtZOaXMmcmSJM4MW1sJVB1nvUODOGbBCkn3UBZ3k/edit?gid=0#gid=0

>Current Event(s)
Invictus Launch Week 2025/Freefly has commenced from May 15 - 27 at Area 18 on the planet ArcCorp:
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/3/thread/invictus-launch-week-2955-faq
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/en/comm-link/transmission/20542-Invictus-Launch-Week-2955-Schedule

>Recent News
The first iteration of flight blades has been released and is now available to players in the pledge store for a limited number of ships (it went fucking horribly):
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/3/thread/introducing-flight-blades-shape-your-ship-s-behavi
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/en/invictuslaunchweek2955#/schedule/vehicle-mods

>JPEG News
The Starlancer TAC is now flight ready
The Idris M & P is now flight ready, along with its "K" and new "T" upgrade kits: (13 years in the making)
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/en/comm-link/transmission/20460-Aegis-Idris-P
New Greycat ground vehicle:
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/en/comm-link/transmission/20557-Greycat-MTC
Ship QnA with John Crewe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOkYR-y2Sx4

>Upcoming flight ready ships this Invictus (and possibly a new concept):
Anvil Asguard
Atls Ikti
Guardian MX

>Previous Thread
>>1717580

>>1758495 (OP)
I want an Idris but I hate the idea of giving cig any money

>>1758512
Don't bother, the laser has fucked hit detection, the torpedo mechanism literally has 200 hp, and the shields has holes.
Only good as a mobile base and larping as a carrier group with friends

>>1758461
I personnally want the grey market to stay. For one to fuck CIG a bit. But most importantly I want an "out" in case I need the money.
I can use EU law to force a reimbursement but there are ways to weasel out of it and I doubt EU will give a shit. So a more realistic approach is to sell my account in grey market.

>>1758475
Avenger Titan is still only a starter. You will find specialized ships to do whatever you want to do.
But Avenger Titan is the best starter and even maybe in reality the best all-rounder? I mean its like a miniature Corsair but its actually fast and competitive in firepower and handling on its size class unlike Corsair.

>>1758512
Just steal one, stanton is littered with abandoned ones and you can clip in or even shoot the doors to get in very easily.

I want to rant about corsair since there is nothing better to do. They really did my girl dirty.
Its one thing to remove the one good thing it had - firepower. Now its left with terrible speed, dogshit handling, 3 high cargo grid, paper towel survivability and useless turrets.

The only good things in corsair:
>Drake, looks cool
>Wings can be used as bumpers to survive crashes and to ram other ships like the warthunder katana meme
>Multiple entry and exit points
>It sits really low on the ground, making it pretty damn nice to load/unload.

"After raising over $800 million from its community, Star Citizen's developer delays the release of a new ship upgrade as players balk at having to pay for it."

Genuine question. How do people who bought into Star Citizen cope with having their asses fucked by Chris Roberts over the past 13 years?
13 years and $800,000,000.
Let that sink in.
13 years of taking humongous cock up the ass. Jesus.
800 million dollars, a budget bigger than the income of some small countries.
That certainly is some ass gaping. Heroic even. Must take a very special sort of person to sit back and take a massive dick up the butthole for 13 years, while paying for it. Really, the amount of anal sphincter stretching must be astronomical. I bet you could just about park a school bus, a yacht, and a freight train inside their rectums.
I can only surmise that those who continue to buy into Star Citizen must enjoy a good long hard assfucking. I bet you need to hear ear protection so as not to be deafened by their squeals of pleasure.

>>1758592
didn't they re-enable the guns for the pilot

>>1758610
Yeah but they downsized them. Corsair is now 4xS4 2xS5

>>1758606
it reads like a fetish post and I bet you had a semi chub out but I get what you mean. Me and my friends bought a basic pack and we thought it was shit for the price they asks for it. However, one of our friend got way too into it and despite the fact that we chose to let go, he still believe in it fantasy style and he just added 700€ more for a perseus because "i don't have any money problems." nevermind the fact that amount of shit you could do here with that kind of money.
Some people are just either retarded or don't know what to do with their money or the value it has, I dont know.

>>1758615
Isn't that the best pilot controlled loadout in a ship under $1500?

>>1758634
Corsair dads aren't satisfied with anything other than a ship with more forward facing pilot controlled firepower than an idris.

>YOUR FAVOURITE SHIP
>YOUR FAVOURITE GUN
>YOUR PREDICTED RELEASE DATE FOR SQ42
>YOUR PREDICTED RELEASE YEAR FOR SC 1.0


cutlass black
arclight (midnight babbyyy)
sep 2026
2035 and i am deadly serious

>>1758878
visually, the nautilus
N/A
Q2 2026
Q2 2026

>>1758878
Ingame: Zeus or Cutlass
JPG: Perseus, Kraken
SR71 and P8-AR
>implying Hold the line to answer the call to not redeem 2999
Somewhere in 2030

>>1758878
mantis or ghost
parallax
2027
2032

>>1758634
Hmm, you are right actually. I checked erkul and scpv and looks like corsair is still doing pretty good.
I was mistaken in thinking the game is balanced like it should be. I assumed 1 size bigger gun would be (at least) double the power.
its a bit shit nobody has made a list that ignores turrets.

>>1758797
You are retarded.

The personal inventory system makes no fucking sense at all.

Runescape has a better inventory

>>1758878
Reclaimer
P4-AR
2027
2026

*(delayed due to XYZ, but in reality due to GTA6)
**(they will just say its 1.0, misses most features and buggy as hell, but gotta make money especially as SQ42 is delayed)

>>1758928
The old inventory system was just fine. And most people still use it, since you can toggle it from right top corner.
New system is mostly used to abuse the system. (eg. invisible undersuit)

>>1758878
C1
P4-AR
2027
2125

>>1758939
Is that what the return shaped arrow does?

Because it feels like theres at least 2 inventory systems that sort of do the same thing. Because theres one page with a backpack that hardly holds anything, and a small areas with leg armor and main armor slots that dont hold anything at all, then there’s the “equip” page that doesnt do fucking anything when im looting a body or trying to don/doff an item and I have to try to do it 5 fucking times to swap my helmet for an enemies’

>>1758982
There is the new system thats on the lower end of the screen, and has a button to switch to armor mode and has swap buttons etc.
Then the arrow on the top right corner opens the old inventory that the kiosk also uses - the drag and drop one.

The old one used to be the default and only one - and it was sufficient and worked well aside from server problems. Thats probably why they decided to make a worse version.
Similarly to how they made the starmap navigation prettier and have more information - but did not fix any of the bazillion bugs with it so it just added new bugs on top of the old ones. Seems like they dont give a shit about fixing it so gotta live with workarounds and fighting the navigation system being a part of pilots duties.

Idris go burrrrr

>>1758878
>ship
Perseus
>gun
S-38 for a long time but I've come to love the Arclight recently.
>S42
4/2 2026
>1.0
2029

even if they finish everything that's a current WIP through 2026-27, there is a fat list of things that have not even been started

>>1758920
It used to be, then they reduced it to 1.5x the size below.
Part of why the Zeus sucks is that every other multirole in its size class has at least four size 3s and it has two size 4s.

>>1759004
Starmap actually works now instead of spending five minutes trying to click the space station only for routing to never go through.

>>1759275
I've had endless bugs. Dunno if reinstall or something would help.

>>1759260
I see. And yeah, but think about ships like MSR, what a joke.

What are these seats for?

>>1759583
Cuck chair

>>1759583
This >>1759591
But their intended CIG role is fast ground deployment when it lands

>>1759583
Eventually CIG is gonna change it so most chairs don't let you sit in them in heavy armor. Jump seats will and you'll need to sit if the pilot is pumping the afterburner for a fast decoupled landing.

>>1759697
since they intend to make cargo grids work, probably all maneuvers will make stuff move around.

Or thats the intention and reality is something else

NEW FLIGHT MODEL in evo

probably

>>1759804
>Nothing mentioned in evo notes

Die

>>1759804
Like what? The Master modes' changes they talked about?

>>1759935
>entire patch notes are [redacted]
Why even pretend like open dev is a thing anymore. Just tell us to fuck off at this point. God knows all the CIG staff want to with how much they patronize the playerbase when called out for doing something retarded.

>>1759935
No

>>1758878
Favorite Ship Visually: Reclaimer
Favorite Ship Ingame: Firebird & Idris
Favorite FPS Gun: Parallax Rifle
SQ42: Sometime before or long after May 26, 2026
1.0: 2030 (minimum)

>>1758878
Cutter Rambler
P8-SC "Midnight" SMG (Very sleek)
Squadron 42 will probably get delayed for "touch-ups" or "polish" or some other PR speak, while Chris Roberts tries to avoid having his game near the spotlight of GTA6. So I say 2027.

As for Star Citizen it may not come out. If Chris can't make a shit load of money off Squadron 42 he will get buttfucked by the Calder investors. He has to pay out $180 million in 2028. He will do a runner.

Enjoy your alpha. Make the most of this precious time we have together friends.

ayo wassup /scg/, saw the latest shitty scandal CIG brewed up again, what do you think SC will look like in the next five years?

>>1758878
600i
anything I can grab a hold on
October 2077
the NUSA ending timeskip in cyberpunk 2077

>>1760317
The same

>>1760317
push the limits of tech and monetization

>>1758878
Buccaneer
Coda revolver
december 2026
never ever

>>1758878
>YOUR FAVOURITE SHIP
merchantman (for max comfy, as you all know all mmo endgames are cosmetics and this ship is the best looking so i'll walk naked in it and feel like a 890J but less gay, also I was sold when I saw the halo forerunner cargo room)
>YOUR FAVOURITE GUN
black ops volt smg (until P8-ARM release)
>YOUR PREDICTED RELEASE DATE FOR SQ42
october-december 2026 (depending if they target citizencon hype or chrismas sells)
>YOUR PREDICTED RELEASE YEAR FOR SC 1.0
december 2027 (broken and unplayable until may 2028)

>>1758878
>YOUR FAVOURITE SHIP
Sabre, visually
>YOUR FAVOURITE GUN
FS-9, it sounds awesome
>YOUR PREDICTED RELEASE DATE FOR SQ42
Early 2027
>YOUR PREDICTED RELEASE YEAR FOR SC 1.0
NEVER EVER BUY MOAR JPEGS LMAO

Haven't played since 3.20, how does mining work now?

>>1758495 (OP)
is the nova the best ground vehicle? do those other ones function like apc?

I just got an oled monitor and it really is nice for sc, I'm impressed

>Spend over two hours (Probably closer to 4 considering time spent earlier in the week) just converting scrips into favors.
>Wikelo gives me a peregrine.
>Can't even equip the components it comes with.

Holy shit this is the worst quest I've ever encountered in any game.

>>1760528
How's the peregrine? I was thinking about getting one for casual comfy flying.

>>1758878
>YOUR FAVOURITE SHIP
Pioneer
>YOUR FAVOURITE GUN
P6-LR with a 4x scope
>YOUR PREDICTED RELEASE DATE FOR SQ42
Q4 2026
>YOUR PREDICTED RELEASE YEAR FOR SC 1.0
6 months after the chinese buyout in 2027

>>1760193
My dude. Right choice of ship - however keep in mind that by any statistic Reclaimer is one of the best multicrew gunships right now. So its hidden op versatile.

>>1760350
A dreamer, good on you anon - still having so much hopium

>>1760393
Same mechanics afaik but it mostly sorta works. Big refining quality of life thing came in 4.1.1? Not a miner but something like that.

>>1760433
There are quite a few different ones - none of them are required for anything - but ground vehicles can be useful to move under planetary turrets. As for combat: They are all undertuned and weak with little use outside of killing pve soldiers that you can kill with P4-AR as easily. Best might be the big Anti-Air ones since ships are actually useful. As for "supposed to be strongest" yes, nova. There are no APC's in the game but there are some ground transports. APC would imply that the vehicle is armored to withstand some damage - but all vehicles are kinda weak.

>>1760528
Keep rolling my dude. Find a populated server and leech off the hunt the polaris mission while doing the missions that give more scrip yourself. Need to grind foxwell anyway to get the ace helmets.

what will come first : aliens ships and aliens ships buff, SQ42, Star citizen 1.0 or bankruptcy
plz why is my santokyai a glorified hangar door stop

>>1760646
Alien ship week is coming now, but afaik there hasn't been ANY indication of alien ships coming soon. Buff is something they might do and I hope they do, never see them around.

>>1760650
maaaaan, why bother with the alien week if there's nothing interesting other than another bugged skin since they don't give a shit

>>1760650
there is a very very faint whiff of a prowler variant in the EPTU files, new paints say "works for all variants"

>>1760673
Prowler is easily the coolest alien ship and one of the coolest ships, so that would be great.

>>1760646
Syulen paint on alien week.

>>1760723
but santa i want railen for christmas

Squadron 42 will be 500gb

>>1760748
Honestly I don't think it will, CIG's p4k is pretty impressively compressed and is using some pretty exotic geometry storage techniques. An extracted idris model converted to an obj in blender is easily over 100gb for example.

>>1760673
Well, since its known that it takes a new variant for CIG to acknowledge and fix a ship (see Valk/Terrapin), im curious as to what else they can utilize with the Prowler's hull.

>>1760761
if I see a fucking san tok mark 2 I'm going to bomb Chris yacht

>>1760761
They don't have ship design jesus Paul Jones anymore, so it's gunna be super lazy.

I had some store credit and an LTI token Dragonfly. I upgraded it to the Firebird. Please praise the Firebird and tell me I made a good choice.

>>1760771
it can instantly kill most scrubs in anything smaller than a Connie

>>1760761
oh fuck I just realised the poor Hawk got no chance too, because if cig remember it exists they will simply release a darker hawk with bigger gun and call it the falcon or some retarded shit
along with the stealth shadowhawk variant

>>1760775
Gladiator bros...

>>1760775
>Anvil has announced via earning’s call that active development of two Hawk variants will continue into FY48. The DireHawk project, which is based on a popular third-party conversion, aims to add an additional two Scattergun mounts and supporting battery. The second variant is ShadowHawk, a stealth variant intended for more advanced hunters and potentially military sale. At present, the ShadowHawk removes two guns in exchange for stealth armor coating and the addition of a data spike array. The ShadowHawk’s future at retail is less certain, but it is expected to reach the prototype article stage before any decision is made. the lore already had a variant of the hawk with more guns lmao. thankfully they'll probably wait until 2027 when bounty hunting rework comes off the backburner.

>>1760777
Man I hate this fucking game, everytime I get a ship I like because it's not another fucking plane but in space it's shit and get outscaled

>>1758878
Favorite playable ship: Cutlass
Favorite never-ever ship: Kraken
Favorite gun: S71
Predicted release for SQ42: 2029
Predicted release year for SC 1.0: 2028

>>1758878
Bucc (wish it had the same panzer camo skin that the cutty has)
LH86 space glock
2026 :)
2030 by the earliest

>rain and thunder weather effects in EVO
>whales bitching about lighting turning off the power to their ship
No-fun faggots I swear to god

>>1760854
I haven't seen whales complaining it's all been light fighter pvp pilots.

>>1760854
>>1760864
Both contain the subtype who hates anything that gives them a slight inconvenience. We have both types in this thread too.

>>1760854
Lightning can't shut off a modern jetliner, why the fuck should it shut down an advanced, shielded spaceship?

>>1761059
We don’t even have space amazon…
It’s lost technology okay!?

>>1761059
According to leaks its Radiation storm coming next event.

>>1761082
fix'd a few more i didnt notice at first.

has anyone tried the chink trackir knockoff?

>>1760596
The scrip isn't the problem. It's sitting there waiting for the "turn in scrip for favor" mission to match the wikelo station you've moved all your scrip to, and then the song and dance with the freight elevator to make sure the favor doesn't vanish into the ether.

>>1760546
Its a single-person ship with no weapons and no interior, that's a racing variant of the slowest fighter in the game. On top of that if you try and replace any of the base components with the Competition B components awarded by Wikelo they don't actually equip.

>>1760854
Hopefully it's like how solar flares were supposed to be and certain ships (300i, 400i, exploration variants) have higher resistance.

>>1761086
The issue is we don't know if Meteor is going to be a military ship (Scorpius/Polaris materials) or a racing ship (Zeus/Galaxy materials).

I'm betting on a multirole based on giving a Mantis more firepower, an interior, and cargo.

Backed in 2012 and haven't followed things too closely. Heard about the monetization drama. Seems like more of the same terminal cancer that the game has had since the beginning.

Do the Banu still not have written history? Because that bit of lore was retarded.

>>1761059
Shields aren't magic. If you strike one with a bolt hotter than the surface of the sun, it stands to reason it might fuck shit up.
Also, Pyro by itself is meant to have regular solar flares that do this same thing, unless you hide in the magnetosphere of planetary bodies or near space stations.
Environmental bullshit isn't new.

>>1761059
It actually can, usually it's a design issue or an aberrant event but it's happened before. Although typically aircraft avoid thunderstorms whenever possible because wind shear(the cause of abnormally strong lighting anyway) is incredibly dangerous.

>>1761059
Because it's cool.

>>1761286
Its been 13 years and $800 million of being fucked up the ass.
That's quite some ass fucking.
What you have now are people who have been ass fucked so much that they not only enjoy it but consider it essential, like breathing, eating and sleeping.
>Wake up
>Think "I must get my ass fucked by Chris Roberts again"
>Give more money to Chris Roberts
>Have breakfast

>>1761640
u gay lol

>>1761286
Star Citizen goes through this ebb and flow of occasionally selling something for real money which makes everybody upset, changing it, and then everybody calming down. Nothing about the way the game is currently funded is actually bad, unless you're the kind of person who gets upset at richfags spending money in general.
>Do the Banu still not have written history?
They have literature scattered around, which you can decipher if you're autistic enough.

>>1758495 (OP)
have they added auto saving in bed if i log off in a ship in space?

which which moon/planet in terra will have the best yields for my cotton plantation?

>>1761681
niggero zone

>Quasi grazers are named after a city on Terra.

This is up there with the Warhammer 40k Land Raider in stupidity.

>>1761059
cuz its cool.

>>1761736
It gets worse.
The first Inquisitor in Warhammer 40,000's canon is named Obiwan Sherlock Clousseau

>>1758495 (OP)
do we 4chan org?

>>1761766
How is that bad, that's amazing, too bad the inquisitors are gay faggots.

>>1761884
>first Inquisitor is a westaboo
No it's shit

>>1761086
thats intrepid not apollo

>>1761679
Has been a thing for quite awhile now (your mileage may vary).
>>1761827
>do we 4chan org?
Theres only one semi-active org (afaik) made up of members who have been with /scg/ at various points throughout its history, so if you're curious I can give you the link. Nothing "official", nor will there ever be.

so does a good all round ship exist where i can take a vehicle with me? for land missions and be able to fight off pve and might survive pvp as well as being solo able

>>1762052
Depends on the size of the vehicle. Cutlass immediately comes to mind, and now im also learning next patch its top manned turret will be slaved to the pilot.

Idrisfags, I need to know: can you bed log-off with a fighter on your flight deck?

>>1762061
yes, but if you dock with a station, it bugs out and you have to store and retrieve in a hanger before you can bedlog again.
Also, after bedlogging, your ship's quantum markers become untargetable

what do you anons think about the GMX?

>>1762232

>>1762236
>>1762232
feels meh no bed and slight dps boost.

>>1762232
I took off, got the MISC ship AI voice, then the cockpit glass went opaque when I went into and out of quantum travel. I like that it looks like a fat TIE Interceptor, but it feels really janky. The space in the back also feels wasted since there's no bed or anything.

>>1762318
alot ships could use a bed fuck a folding board with fucking cushion is enough of a bed, truckers can sleep in their truckers, you can sleep in your car, but a million dollar space ship? NOPE sorry murphy bed is advance space tech and is expensive.

>>1761218
Yeah but is it fun to fly? I figured it'd be pretty fun with flight blades allowing you to go even faster but the MPUV got flight blades instead of the Sabre.

>>1761207
I see, damn.

>>1761241
Some people are guessing its the salvager but "Meteor" sure sounds more like a fighter to me

>>1761286
Its more of the same. Its overblown by cynics and defended by cig cumslurpers. Overall its a indication that CIG is running in to money trouble (which makes sense as their burn rate is 10mil/month absolute minimum)

>>1761669
Well to be fair CIG has in the last 2 years started to trend more and more to "current ship" style monetization where newest ship is always the most convenient way to do the newest content. without exception.
In general ships are also powercreeping like crazy. Latest example could be Idris T-kit that completely invalidates the whole reason why Polaris exists at all.
But you had others, like Polaris itself being the best ship in the game. Newest hornet variant has been the best fighter how many times in a row now..

>>1761938
Ok, ill correct it. Thought one of them might be. Thanks

>>1762061
bedlog on the idris.

>>1762395
>fighter pilots are too egoistic to sleep on the floor

>>1762232
>>1762247
Doesn't fit on polaris hangar.

How's my chain coming along?

>>1762431
Pretty meh. I hope you're planning on supplementing it with gray market store credit that you bought at 50-53% otherwise you'd be better off just buying an already CCU'd one off the gray market.

>>1762464
I'm too scared of gray market I don't wanna get my account banned

>>1762474
You're not at any risk of getting your account banned for receiving an item, they would just revoke the item if it was fraudulent. The only thing you have to worry about is buying store credits in the form of a meltable ship, melting it, and spending those credits and then having the melted ship flagged as fraudulent by the previous owner in which case they'd attempt to deduct the value of the ship from your store credits which would place you into the negatives which would then lock your account until you melt enough stuff to bring your balance back to 0 from the negatives which automatically unlocks the account. This is an exceedingly rare issue though due to 2FA being mandatory to gift ships. Gray market trading is completely allowed but "At your own risk" as CIG will not offer any support for the loss of ships/money in regards to a trade and thus they heavily recommend you do not do it.

>>1762431
man, they really don't have good CCUs these days anymore

>>1762497
Oh good to know, thanks anon
>>1762501
Yeah it's rough out there

>>1762511
If you really want a polaris right now is probably the best time to get one from the gray market as a lot of people are selling their CCU'd Polaris's due to the idris coming out and they need money for buybacks. I'm seeing plenty for $400 with LTI and a few that were already snapped up for $375.

>>1762058
>Cutlass which has tons of forward firepower getting slaved manned turret.
>Zeus which has firepower of 300i with turning of Constellation stuck with unused remote turret.

Not saying you're a liar, but it'd be a dick move if they did this.

>>1762425
The one time I took it out I wound up crashing into an OLP so not sure. Feels like it isn't snappy enough for a racer. You turn but your direction doesn't change quickly.

I'd recommend against getting the Polaris, if only because you can't bed log with a ship in the hangar. And also because you need at least five extra people to use it properly.

>>1763024
You only need a pilot to remove Idrises from the server

>>1762522
Honestly I've been working on this chain since 3.24 so I'm not really in a rush. Hoping to get a M2 warbond or similar this ilw though to close the gap. We'll see

what actually are the distribution centers? they played them up really hard the last time I was paying attention but i have never been to one. How do you get there what do you do at em? content?

>>1763509
Bigger bunkers with freight elevators on the outside.

>>1763509
unfinished ->>1763616, they were supposed to have more to it but we are stuck with tier 0 distros :)))))))

>>1763626
Maybe someday they'll take the shit they're doing with Hathor and Pyam and Faro and implement it with the distros.

>>1763509
Abandonware that got shelved in favour of more tarkov fps gameplay.

>>1758495 (OP)
when does mtc lti run out and when does those patch bundles end?

>>1764439
MTC will stick around atleast a week after Invictus ends on the 27th cause its a new jpeg, but im not sure that'll be the case for the bundles.

>Ignore Polaris mission for the past few days because I've been on a big mining kick
>Finally try it out in my Corsair after delivering a refinery order
>Can't tell who's actually a player and who's AI
>Try to scan red ships to make sure I'm shooting AI ships
>Some red ships are allied AI though
>Do fine blowing up Retaliators until the final mission stage
>Magdumping into the Polaris when some dude in a Gladius flies through my shots and takes a stray bolt
>Suddenly I'm getting shot by every ship and PDC in the area
>Die almost instantly
>Go back to mining

I know people have been bitching about it for a while now, but CIG really chose the worst time to do that ridiculous ship tag change. I don't think I've seen a single person that actually likes it.

>>1764957
>PDC
>shooting Corsair

>>1764957
I haven't even been playing. I just refresh CCU game every day during ilw and check for new warbond ccus

>>1762232
heavy fighters are really bad right now, asgard or corsair do a lot better
but on the MX itself what really bother me is the empty interior it is really a stupid nerf again by CIG for something that shouldnt exist, you could literally fit a s3 shield inside

https://files.catbox.moe/rn7th1.mp4
will cig ever dare to add fun gameplay in their game?

>>1764957
you dont actually have to do the mission.

>>1765100
Could've been player Polaris turrets, I don't know. I was a bit busy fucking dying to double-check. The point is that some guy flying through my stream of bolts got nicked slightly and I suddenly became public enemy #1.

>>1765266
>will cig ever dare to add fun gameplay in their game?
Rhetorical question, I know, but here's my answer anyway:
>Not if they want to keep selling expensive jpegs to whales

Truly dog shit warbond CCU options this ilw

Man what's the point of grey market when the ccus are more expensive than that rsi store

CIG is starting to make an effort to scrape every last bit of money by squeezing CCU gaming and edging out grey markets.
Worrying from a financial standpoint, given that they didn't seem to care before

>>1765711
yeah Im holding out for drake day desu.
Im REALLY hoping theres a Herald warbond. Ive got a Titan thats been waiting to grow up into a Harold for a while now but I missed it at Citcon and then again IAE due to real life shenanigans distracting me.

like
>Warbond on Ares Inferno when its been tottally molested into uselessness.
>C2 thats not even back down to initial price
Though the C2 might be the best this year desu.

First day was nautilus I think? Literally the Most vaporware ship in the game.
StarG warbond was OK but Ive long since run out of StarG>$350 ccus to ride, they did get me some nice discounts over the years though and I am Highly interested in the supposed Starfarer redesign. The StarG is actually very attractive by the numbers, its just that internal layout that scuttles it. IMO. Though I havent done a hard comparison to other ships ion class lately and its likely been powercrept a lot.
Once upon a time a StarG was actually the theoretical best "Large" pirate ship.
I dont even remember what the RSI and Origin warbonds were

I was 100% planning to get a Guardian MX until they revealed it loses the best and cabin in to get that extra shield, like props to them for actual making it a different ship and not just "But better" but it murdered my interest in it and Im just gonna stick with my QI, cus that whole thing I like about it was a 1 man combat ship with big guns and a bed.

The extra shield is a huge deal, but the fact its slower, and it by nature limited in range kills it. Also I think gun sizes are gonna matter a lot more in the future and the twin S5s will actually be an asset when you start talking about stuff like armor pen.

>>1765728
getting CCUs to stuff not currently available if you think the price is gonna jump before its sold again.

its shitty and CIG should really be up front about price increases. I wound up giving some grey market guy $40 for a pair of CCUS I needed to complete a chain instead of giving CIG $30 because if the price went up even $10 it would have ruined my chain and I couldnt get a straight answer out of support as to whether one was planned. The goal of the chain was to get a BMM and a Perseus for $240 each and so having the chain ruined was not really an option.

I found a free idris K on an island
but actually using it actually doesn't feel any different from my starlancer tac
I think when you buy it the hype goes down in a few days and it's just a regular ship
I'm sorry for people who bought it 2000$ they must feel so bad

>>1765841
it doesn't feel different because the laser is bugged and does no damage to hull. It's fixed for next patch and deletes ships in like 2 secs

Still gobsmacked that the only ship in the ENTIRE FUCKING GAME that has individual rooms for its crew is the starlancer max.
What is the vehicle team's obsession with bunks, was one of them mindbroken by a tour of duty on a sub or something?

>>1765882
corsair also has it

>>1765885
Oh true.
So that makes two ships of like 50+ that aren't cuckbunks.

>his pioneer doesn't come with a stolen land acknowledgment

>>1765882
890j

>>1765906
Off topic but it's cool the 890 has paints now. Even more impressive is that 2/3 of them actually look good.

Asgards pretty lit but Im not gonna buy one cus the price point is wrong and I already have an Ironclad.

>>1765939
And now I'm looking at 400i concept arts and pissed off that we could have had "300i but bigger" but instead they decided to make a useless space yacht.

>>1766219
every ship has a better concept it could have been. Chris literally never picks the best one.

>>1766219
Just be glad Chris told them that giant round thing on the back being a hot tub was too much.

>>1766206
>not buying it because it's a literal Valkyrie rework

>be me
>ask for something in spectrum
>x months later it shows up
for example I asked for this paint for my sabre and they copied it in photoshop to put it on the asgard/valkyrie
and they do it with so many things I say on spectrum over the years actually like darm I've never seen any dev taking so seriously what I tell them
however they never not even once answered to me or credited me
should I be mad that they are making money on my back at this point I feel like they should start to pay me idk

asguard kinda junk it's a minimum effort bronze standard valk made by the mushmouthed brown ESL vehicle team

I buy boughted an Idris

>there was a freefly going on this whole damn time
>and it ends tuesday
dammit

>certain weapon has certain sized slots where similar sized attachments can be placed
>some fags on twitch show up with smg's with size 2 4x magnification scopes and other impossible crap
Wtf?

>>1766971
The pdcs can be put onto some fighter craft right now for autoaim and firing.
I'm about to do it myself.

>>1766977
I mean FPS weapons.

oh damn, they really did rework the character creator, reminds me of Starfield

>>1766815
same.

watching spergs try to start a 2nd civil rights movement because they failed at whale pvp and didn't get an idris is interesting.

>>1767268
alright I got my poor man's drip with my 25k free fly welfare check, time to get some grub and find out how to leave this shithole

>>1765783
>yeah Im holding out for drake day desu.
There won't be a drake day.

>>1765728
>grey market
well right now the invicta shit means most shit is here so you can upgrade yourself but when it's not the grey market is the answer.

>>1766376
A larger, cheaper, more sensible valk rework and I always almost liked the valk and this thing fixes what I didnt like about it.

However, unlikely to buy one for other reasons. No convenient CCU being chief among them.
Don't like it enough to just buy one outright for sure.

>>1766794
It's a valk with a bigger vehicle bay and without all the wasted space and useless turrets of the valk, like yea its largely defenseless, but its a landing craft and they are generally not meant to fight and meant to be used under escort. It also has enough cargo space to be used as a materiel transport on its own. It pays less dropship tax while being more functional in practice.

Also it just looks a lot cooler, the way the engines are mounted is better and it is literally the dropship from alien.

>>1767294
May 25th literally says drake day.
Maybe there no new ship and theres not an actual drake defensecon this year, but there will be a day where drake ships are put up for sale.

I feel like a lot these ships or pointless especially the variants

It's basically
Cargo varients vs a second variant cause the third one is just pure ass.

Usually it's cargo vs combat.

>>1767326
Pragmatic/Pirate/Scavenger variant with cargo space for all the loot Im gonna hoover up and I wander arounf fighting thing and robbing people

Pure Combat/Milsimmer/Tryhard variant for the Coplarp powertrippers, "Bounty Hunters" and "Hardened Mercenaries" who just want to fight stuff without consideration for lootmaxxing, side gigs or occasional cargo liberation.

Extra bullshit Mcguffin variant for Star Trekkers who are basically playing the game as a social RPG and all the superfluous bullshit provides them with material for roleplay that "A ship with guns a cargo bay and respawn bed" does not.

It really not that complicated desu.

When are we going to see a Perseus in game? I've got a good chain to it as a hold over before I get a good deal on a Polaris (and since the Perseus is in dev the price will probably go up when it's out), but it seems kind of ass with what they got posted on the website. S7x4, s3x4, s5 torp x20.. kinda if mid. What's its use case even supposed to be? Heavy fighter/hammer head shredder?

This game better fucking come out

>>1767333
i just wanna fight stuff and collect loot, i would also like to carry a vehicles. every vehicle is fucking bloated and huge, you need an equally bloated and huge ship to carry them.

>>1767420
Main guns were upgunned from S7 > S8 and I believe S3's > S4's as well but that one I might be incorrect on. It also has either a larger shield generator tier or an extra shield of the same tier. It'll be released at IAE at the end of this year.

>>1767430
Cutlass Black carries a ursa or smaller, RAFT carries almost 200scu and when outfitted with ardors and attritions can do PVE bounty piracy at a brisk speed due to the external tractor beam enabling you to just snatch shit out of the hold of soft deathed PVE ships and slot onto your external cargo grid.

>>1767429
I just want the f8c to not be dogshit anymore, and the Conny to get a less dog shit cockpit :)

>>1767432
i'll look into the raft, but it appears to me that it's basically cutlass black or corsair the good multi rollers.

Everyone in this game always fucking larps as if there gonna be alot big battles and that why the justification for the ship like what is wrong with these people max you can get in any fight is 30 if your lucky average is gonna 10, a group of 5 maybe just a second person to run shit with you.

>>1765711
Almost got the Zeus to Taurus warbond to prep for the meteor but decided against it.

>>1767441
Asgard lets you fit either the starter mining ship alongside extra mining bags (Golem) or the upcoming starter salvaging ship which you can use to salvage the ships of any PVE bounty you do (Asgard can easily do all PVE bounties up to a hammerhead solo). Also fits any ground vehicle, any MPUV, and several ships such as the Arrow, Razor, snub ships. It'll basically become the premium version of the Cutlass Black.

>>1767314
It still has wasted space in the front. It still has just 1 ladder upstairs, it still has only 20k hp on main pieces. (Down from 25k on valk)

>>1767441
A lot of ships can multirole. But almost all of them "multirole" as ground vehicle carriers. Only the capital ships Polaris and Idris can do absolutely everything through the shit they can carry. (And by some stretch the Hercules variants)

You can fit both with fighters, salvagers, miners, APC, and some cargo.
Naturally you are going to need the extra ships on top of the capital ship.

>>1767459
"Convenience" costs

>>1767420
iae this year 100%

>>1766794
asgard is braindead big cube with 6 pilots guns and a nova tank cargo that fly 1075m/s in atmo
they really got no shame turning my cute valkyrie into that ugly borg cube

>>1767314
>>1767453
>>1767459
I don't know much but i see asgard as an expensive C1 competitor, you want a smaller ship than C2 size of C1 and carry a tank ore just more shit.

I wish instead making retarded variants of the same ship and taking forever even though variants should be any easier job, they would work on the grid storage system, I would love to be able to make a hilux technical with cargo ships where you can put a hangar and turret or guns to get more molecularity and firepower at a cost of less armor or less fuel etc.

Guys, how do I dodge EM missles? they hit me every time. Especially when firebird cucks shit out 12 of them

>>1767661
In theory you could boost, chaff and turn your ship off to reduce your EM sig to 0 then let the missiles fly past you. In reality this game is shit and you should uninstall it.

Predict how everything is going to end
>SQ42 finally releases in 2026
>The development is still a mess but they know they cant delay it any further, as it was supposed to release in 2016.
>The game is mediocre, buggy, short, filled with cringy clichés and lackluster gameplay
>6/10 ign
>The cultists will claim it's a masterpiece, an unpolished gem, but most backers and the wider public will see how this game that has been in development for 14 years and that has costed almost $1billion isn't living up to the expectations.
>Shitposters and content creators will have a ton of juicy content content to squeeze, and will rip it apart. Everyone will jump on the Squadron 42, Star Citizen and Chris Roberts hate wagon.
>Meanwhile, Star Citizen is still nowhere near completion. However, now that SQ42 has released, the team is fully committed with the mmo.
>the problem is that the game's foundation is an absolute mess, as over the years they have built spaghetti code over spaghetti code over a spaghetti code. They can't fix bugs without causing 10 more: the entire foundation is rotten.
>it's a lasagna of incompetence and greed

At this point, funding starts drying up. After the fiasco of SQ42, people have lost any remaining faith in the team. There aren't new backers and the long time ones who still hadn't jumped out of the ship are finally giving up. Only the most delusional whales remain, as the devs try to bait them with more p2w fearures.

>it's 2027, things are breaking apart, and the morale is in an all time low. People have started talking about lawsuits, everyone calls it a scam and they're running out of money
>they decide to call it a day. They wrap everything up, and the same game suddenly goes from alpha, to beta, and it releases in late 2027
>despite their best efforts, it's syill buggy tech demo with barely any functioning mechanics
>6/10 ign again, mediocre and niche.

There's no climatic ending: no big closure to this saga, and that will be the end of it.

>>1767858
What we've seen so far about sq42 is very little gameplay (mode of which Is on-rail shooter) and a lot of cinematics, that's usually a bad sign

>>1767867
And the cinematics are cringe and filled with clichés

this place look so good I wanna place my station here

>>1767284
alright after finally a leaving pyro (and spending all my money on repairs after a botched landing) I'm finally at invictus again. that wormhole was hellish, traveling through it was far more involved than I thought it'd be. anyways, why can't I rent these ships? they all look new and nice

>>1767858
gay ass theory crafting lol

>>1767894
Rental terminals for the Invictus ships are at the top of the main stairs as you enter the hall on either side. It may not let you rent those ships in particular right now cause its Anvil day, but the final few days will let you rent every ship that was on rotation.

>>1767858
>The cultists will claim it's a masterpiece
The number of people who have positive feelings towards S42, even among gigawhales of like 10k+, is unbelieveably small.
If it's anything other than an actual, objective masterpiece then not a single scam shartizen player will be defending it.

>>1767924
I believe that for their own mental health, people will try to convince themselves that it's a masterpiece and that their money, time and energy has been well spent

>>1767933
No one will. If S42 is a failure then people will just unleash their rage onto CIG for wasting hundreds of millions and over a decade on a failed ego project. I suspect that funding will dry up completely and most people will walk away from SC alltogether.
Even now, the whole "le white night cultsist" thing barely exists anymore. Go onto the forums or the reddit and you'll be unable to find an old culty/white-knight style hyper positivity post.
At most you'll find posts where the OP is posting about something cool that happened in game or posting screenshot simulator.

>>1767940
I wonder what they will show in the citizencon this year, it's supposed to release in 2026. I'm wondering what's going to take for an actual backlash, could the community handle another delay?

>>1767874
True, but for the most part they are "ok". What is the most puzzling is the flaccid noncommitted voice acting from the star cast. Gary Oldman is my absolute favorite actor and his speech in both voice quality and in content is garbage. His has had some very good speeches in movies so I have to conclude that direction is very important.

Im hoping Davos Seaworthy is a better fit to his role.

>>1767933
one thing's for sure, SQ42 could make Roger Ebert rise from the grave just to admit that videogames have finally met the bar for art, and there would still be contrarian fags swarming every platform that talks about vidya with low effort shitposts about how it's still a scam and minimum viable product.

>>1767995
Oldman and Gillian Anderson both sound fucking terrible in this and it seems to be a deliberate directorial choice to support how old they're supposed to be. fucking baffling. you'd never know it was either of them. at least Hamill is just Hamill. I'm sure Cavill will be great as well.

>>1767924
if it were to flop it might actually be good for the game as a whole; if it was a money loser they'd be forced to abandon any sequel/DLC plans and could put all their crack devs on the MMO side to actually make a good game out of SC.

>>1767999
Its very very stupid choice. All the best speeches in scifi are delivered by clear and strong voiced characters. Not feeble old farts mumbling.

And if he wanted to go for "we will fight in the beaches" then the content of the speech and the pacing should have been more carefully crafted.

>>1767923
that's a weird change, but okay

>>1768017
the renting is essentially the same.

Take this positively, less time spent in creating the halls for each day, more time spent on something else. CIG is running out of money, they have to focus on getting shit done.

>>1767333
Editor's Note: The McGuffin Variant's gameplay loop is not in the game yet and has no ETA on implementation.

>>1767867
>>1767858
i thought i looked fine. basically a cod campaign but on a grander scale. im more concerned about it being a buggy piece of shit than i am of it being a standard on rails shooter.

>>1767940
sc42 has to have titan fall style wall running and parkour with eva assist.

>>1768429
tech jesus is gonna rip this game apart isn't he.
or do you think he took koolaid?

So if I soft death in quantum, can I just replace a fuse to bring my ship back online?

>>1768721
AFAIK its only TAC doing that, you can grab a fuse from engineering to power something else down.

>>1768763
It's happened in the Asgard as well.

Hull limiting is the biggest bullshit ever. Wanted to melt some stuff, maybe grab an indris with either fresh cash OR store credit.

The fact that people are botting for an idris is insane, even more so when you see 30+ accounts listed on the grey market with nothing but an Idris and LTI Merlin, so its clear as day they're botted.

UEES ASLUR

>>1769314
>when you see 30+ accounts listed on the grey market with nothing but an Idris and LTI Merlin
You know I have seen multiple people say this but no one can provide me links to these places where they are totally being sold at.

>>1769446
you have to spend $1000 on the grey market before these listings will be shown to your account

>>1769472
Lmfao

>>1769103
Thanks for the fuses lil bro....

>>1769314
I managed to get a warbound one on the first extra wave without already having it in my cart.

>>1767858
When it hits 1.0 the game will become FOTM across the internet gaming sphere and then crater due to letting PvP just randomly wreck your shit at any given time. Every single new activity they cook up is PvE* (But actually PvP) and that's not gonna get much beyond the Rust/Escape From Tarkov crew regardless of gameplay.

Squadron 42 will land with a wet thud as they essentially spent millions of dollars remaking Call of Duty Infinite.

>>1767858
you forgot the part where they court chinese corporations for investment capital leading up to or slightly after release of SQ42 where chis, sandi and co can make a graceful exit with bags of money in hand leaving their fucking mess to someone else to clean up

>>1769607
>due to letting PvP just randomly wreck your shit at any given time
Don't worry; there will be major corps camping major points of interest, charging a fee for safe access and managing your experience at that location to your liking.

>>1769675
Very annoying that instead of having a PvP Star System and a PvE Star System, we have a "PvP with no penalty" star system and a "PvP where you're penalized for fighting back" star system.

>>1769757
Whiny bitch

>>1758606
Maybe we just enjoy getting our asses fucked?

>>1767429
Never ever

>>1769757
Just get good?

>>1769607
It depends on how much you lose when reclaiming shit. EvE has a more cutthroat community and you still have margin to maneuver. SC has actual mechanics that lack in eve such as prison (which can be improved) and a bounty system that kinda works (at least its not 100% useless).
Suicide ganking will be a thing (nomad with some kind of bomb in its cargo plus cargo alt). Botting is much much harder in this game though. Those are the differences.
There might be wise asses who will somehow coordinate 2 clients to fly something like a paladin/hurricane/scorpius solo with full gimbals (that will be fun too). If by any reason they decide to introduce some kind of hitscan weapon then you will have aimbots (the whole game is fucked).

>>1769948
*This assuming Chris finishes his game (lol) and that said game has an actual competent anti-cheat engine (lmao).

The Asguard is so easy to bully. She’s like Valk-chans retarded sister.


We need more ship girl art.

>>1770003
sry bro this is only for the best ships

it's funny how cdprojekt stole this artwork and made the props in their game while CIG completely forgot about it

>>1770011
And that in turn could be 1:1 from Deus Ex: Human Revolution / Mankind Divided. (except worse)

well look at that. it took some confusion involving rentals and hangar queue hell, but I got this nice view

>>1770168
he invented dude sex!

>>1771250
looks like an a2 bomb target

>>1771522
that's literally the starport I left from, which has NO convenience store in it unlike the Microtech starport

>>1771574
honestly, the best spaceport in Stanton is the one in loreville since it has a ship seller right there and you don't have to go all the way into the city

must have ships
>asgard
>a2
>polaris
>golem

Did the full Hathor run yesterday with 3 people. No one else there.

this white paint looks pretty guud

>>1769757
They have to force PvP to get people to spend on bigger and more expensive ships to keep up with the power creep.
With industrial you'll eventually find a niche and settle there, whether it's solo, duo, or multi-crew play. With PvE you can make do and approach the problem with alternate solutions, lots of patience, or just avoid it altogether.
Not so with PvP. Whatever you may doing there'll be others who will go out of their way to fuck you over, just because they can, and the only way to keep ahead of them is to have a bigger ship with a respawn point.
PvP player? Well, now you'll need an entire tool box to best fuck different types of players over, and you'll need to keep up-to-date on each of your tools.
Hopium keeps PvE and industrial players in the game, but the financial incentive is simply not there for CIG to cater to these players over PvP ones. They either don't have the foresight to see what this dynamic will do to the game once it hits 1.0, or they simply don't have a choice but to cater to them for immediate and easy funding.

>>1771821
The people wanting to fuck you over often fly just a single seater fighter. Your theory is a bit lopsided.

PvE players wanting to do their shit in peace need the big ships to stave off pvp players. With the other options being having numerical advantage or just fighting them until one side gives up (and another pvp carrion fly appears)

I can say from experience that most pvpfag fly hornets.

>>1771675
>cutlass black
>corsair
>gladius

you don't need anything else

>>1771790
Can those things gimbal on the vertical axis?

>S3 bombs
>Zeus has shit payload
>cutlass/constellation cant carry them
>corsair and freelancer with potential to be good ground operations platforms
Ok, Freelancer rework when?

>>1771675
Cringe and onions

>>1771914
True and based

>>1771914
>PvP Bounties finally working
>Accept one
>Dude's hiding in Grim Hex
>Does it until the contract timer runs out
>Repeat x5

Okay.

>>1772049
I don't think there's a notification you're being hunted. Dude was probs just a bob.

>>1771827
Last few times I got attacked by PvPers were an Idris camping OM-1 of Crusader, a Scorpius with the new missile turret while I was cruising into a bunker mission, and a Firebird chasing me out of a PAF.

Also, flying a big ship doesn't help since it makes you a bigger target and CIG keeps reducing the damage needed to cause soft death.

>no defensecon
>no Idris loaner for kraken owners
It's so over drakebros

>>1771827
>PvE players wanting to do their shit in peace need the big ships to stave off pvp players.
That's exactly what I meant.
PvP forces PvE players to fly bigger ships, ideally with PDC, medbeds, and whatever shit they want to carry for their PvE play; mining, salvaging, hauling, LARPing.
PvPers uses Gladius and Hornets to fuck with small to mid industrial ships, but for bigger targets they'll need more specialist tools like A1s, A2s, and Eclipses. Also, Firebird to fuck with people in general over points of interest. Of course they fly other ships, but this is just an example.
This forced PvP pushes both PvP and PvP players to buy more and bigger ships.
PvE players buy bigger ships to be left alone. PvP players buy bigger/more ships to keep fucking with PvE players. Hope that the game will get better keeps the PvE players around (vast majority of the population). Punching down on PvE players keep the majority of PvP players around (majority do not want a fair fight; see how often they run if shit goes south).
Therefore, what ultimately keeps the players around is the hope of PvE players that the game will get better. IMO, without it, the population will likely collapse.

>>1772208
Unfortunately every patch shows that CIG absolutely fucking loves the light ship meta. Look at the nerfs to the TAC's turret speed.

>>1772208
why would you run anything but a2? it has alot cargo space still+ bombs.

>>1772090
Lots of bounty targets seem to be running to Grim Hex or dropping out of quantum in the middle of space where you can't really get to them now. It's annoying, but it does take some of the spergier people out of action for a bit.
What's really annoying is that targets can just backspace as you're blasting them and you get cucked out of the reward.

>>1772659
Here's to hoping quantum boosting makes it so we can actually chase down people who sit in the middle of nowhere.

if you log out you re-appear at the last station you were in...do you keep your inventory including items in backpack? pls hurry

>>1772759
Yes

>>1772759
You can log out falling through atmosphere and wake up in the nearest station safe and sound. As long as you don’t combat log or alt f4

>>1772217
>Look at the nerfs to the TAC's turret speed.
>$340
Don't make me say it

>>1772144
Its always possible but pretty rare. Most pvpers I've seen still fly Hornet, but also seen some polaris' around.

>>1772183
Dont despair, they hint at Kraken on next invictus.

>>1772208
It's a bit sad seeing a Hornet camp around Hathor, you just know they are crying to get their friends around.

Problem isn't fucking them up. 90% of people doing pvp in PU are room temperature IQ, problem is that fighting them makes doing Hathor kinda impossible or unbearably long. Especially if they disable comms so its just a respawn race.

>>1772659
When I used to do player bounties, everyone but 1 didn't even realize I was coming. That one guy was prepared and fucked me up.

>>1772824
>Dont despair, they hint at Kraken on next invictus.
They hinted on the kraken going into per-production this IAE, aint no fucking way your seeing that jpeg turn into a flyable 3d model until 2027's Invictus.

>>1767964
>Citizen con
There's a major reason why they are making it digital only, it's GOTTA be because they are releasing the game at this citizen con. There's no other reason why they would make it not be in person because they poach their XXXXXL shirt wearing whales dry there and make bank.
A digital only presentation means that they can provide actors who worked on sq42 security, and the games crowd can play the game instead.
Just kidding about everything I said, it's gonna be 2 more years guys
>>1767995
>>1767999
I'm no one you guys responded to, but I think Garry's voice sounds like a forced old guy and Gillian sounds like she is fighting to keep dentures in her mouth. The bald dude who's with oldman on the bridge sounds good though

>>1772183
The only thing we are gonna see next year is a loaner ironclad it's over

>>1772829
I agree. But they are out of money, desperation is hell of a booster.

The flight blade shit was both mountains-out-molehills on most players and completely avoidable bullshit on CIG's side. All they had to do was announce in advance
>Hey, all of these will be available in Alpha for aUEC on the next patch!
rather than make people wonder about exclusivity unlike other gear. Its good that CIG gets their hands slapped by the community over monetization bullshit to remind them, though. One of the biggest concerns I have is that Roberts long term autism and original plans for monetization will get eroded by gacha / item mall / etc...normalized younger devs and players alike, where we all suffer if say.. they go back on the plan to stop selling ships or any items directly when the game goes 1.0, to switch over to selling expansions for SQ42, account services stuff like full custom NPC tokens you can use as "inheritors" to become your PC after a previous one dies for real, and a capped amount of in-game cash (sufficient to allow someone who didn't play for awhile to pay their bills instead of devoting all their time to grinding etc.. but not destabilize the economy).
>Idris
Those of us with Idris all ready, the "old" Idris-P upgrade kit seems to give all the stuff of the new K kit, right?

>Dropships
What's the opinion on dropships and gunships like the Asgard, Valkyrie, Starlancer TAC, Paladin etc?

By the way, any anons who want something before the end of Invictus at cost, I can you set up with Chairman's Club skins or other extras. Any new players who want vintage packages that have both SQ42 and SC keys built in etc... I've got a fair amount of those too. Think we've got until 5/27 at 20:00 PST.

>>1772895
>Those of us with Idris all ready, the "old" Idris-P upgrade kit seems to give all the stuff of the new K kit, right?
The original one comes with LTI written on the box, neither of the new ones mention LTI. The new warbond one comes with extra clothes that neither the original nor store credit version comes with. Excluding those two things they're otherwise identical

>>1772895
>What's the opinion on dropships and gunships
AFAIK CIG haven't put out a dedicated short-range drop transport in the game.
The valkyrie series is fucking masive and would be overkill for just moving, say, 8-10 troops from a fob to a frontline.
And no, ancient, poorly thought out variants of ships do not count.

>>1772895
>What's the opinion on dropships and gunships like the Asgard, Valkyrie, Starlancer TAC, Paladin etc?
Asgard is great for mild drops, can fit a nursa and spartan in it so you can drop an entire squad with respawn/medical support. Fits a handful of the smaller ships as an alternative if you don't want to do ground crew drops, pretty fragile though so ensure there's not much shooting at you for the drops. Plenty of forward facing pilot firepower including missiles.

Valk has 50% more health than the Asgard and functionally equal pilot dps but can't transport anything larger than an ursa. Tac is a "does everything pretty well" but is outshone by pretty much anything dedicated to what you want, I'd say the only dropships it's better than is the hoplite and Cutlass Steel. Prowler just got a gold standard pass in evocati (because it's getting a ship variant in the next patch or patch after that) but the exact changes haven't been shared yet. Paladin isn't out yet but on paper is nuclear levels of busted with 4x S4 pilot guns and 4x S5 gunner weapons which makes it an absolutely disgusting 2 man ship and there's no way it actually stays that way.

>>1772905
Huh. All right. Hey, can you still see the old kit if you look now? It used to be on the store the other day, but now I don't see it. If you find it what is it under?

>>1772911
I assume you mean the Vanguard Hoplite and Cutlass Steel, but what about the Prowler then? Also what about some of the "gunship" types that seem to also carry a certain amount of jump seats or what?

>>1772915
Thanks. If Valk has more health and is larger, but it can't drop larger vehicles what's its big advantage? Also does anyone remember if Valk has a special (either chairmans club or perhaps it was a special event/warbond) skin?

>>1772895
>What's the opinion on dropships and gunships like the Asgard, Valkyrie, Starlancer TAC, Paladin etc?

Overpriced & undertuned useless pieces of shit. What are you going to do with them?
Assguard is a cargo ship.

>>1772919
>can you still see the old kit if you look now? It used to be on the store the other day, but now I don't see it. If you find it what is it under?
It was removed a day or two after invictus started and only the new ones remained. I have seen no explanation on why it was removed.

>Thanks. If Valk has more health and is larger, but it can't drop larger vehicles what's its big advantage?
Valk is like half the size of the Asgard but is still a big ship for what it does, it's a pretty old ship so it's just extra chunky because that's how ships were back then and it's running a small handful of S2 shields instead of S3's like similar ships of its size do. It has 3 "unique" paints, Valkyrie Liberator which was an exclusive warbond ship package sold on Valkyrie launch for a limited time (Goes for $1200-$1400 on the gray market now), the 2951 IAE Valkyrie skin which goes for like $600 (CCU'd/standalone ship) or like $200 for the CCU upgrade. It also has a Foundation Festival skin which you can unlock once a year during the foundation event.

Valkyrie is almost 20mil ingame. Asgard, at best, will be in the 14-18mil range. Thats a lot of doe! Almost 3 corsairs worth of money.
When losses start to matter that ship will be shit. Unless you stick to space only or you are actually transporting vehicles ofc.

>>1773142
but the asgard is also shit in space. Same maneuverability as the connie, same size, but severely lacks hull hp, shielding, and power

>>1773144
Greed wins in VHRT, ERT and ship scavenging (weapons/cargo/components). Its all about the "size of the box" you got. Land business its different because you are more exposed and small is more practical sometimes.

>>1773147
but vhrts and erts are shit now. There's hardly any quantanium, and the other cargo is not worth the effort to tractor.
You make money faster by taking down the hammerhead in the combat training mission #7

idris-m forma del s42 sexo

>>1772829
Beijing Bar Citizen stated that the Kraken is being re-concepted at the end of the year.
The ironclad is supposed to come out this year first because they're using it to build the assets used in the Kraken.
But they keep making variants of existing ships or ships that fulfill the same role as others first. So who the fuck knows when the Ironclad or the Kraken will become available.

Can you actually drag a ship with this thing to your hangar so you can loot it? Is the hangar always large enough for what you carry? Hows persistence if you leave the ship somewhere and then get back?

fun fact: the ATLS isn't a ship entitie, it's actually an actor in the files. Functionally you are just mounting an incredibly deformed human with special textures, meshes, and animations.

Invictus items sales go away at 20:00PST (ie 23:00 EST) right?

>>1773355
Me and buddy went to a bunker and got shot by the AA turrets, major torque imbalance, blown off thruster, crashed land in some hills. We loaded up on food and water and trecked almost 8km to the bunker, cleared it and searched abandoned player ships looking for a ride out. We found a damaged ursa medivac but all the ships were soft killed or had blown fuses. Then, I see in chat a guy saying he will do search and rescue and tow your vehicle for 20k aUEC. Hired him on the spot. As he’s coming in, we realize we haven’t taken the turrets offline yet, my buddy and I scramble to shoot the turrets, the Argo comes in, gets shot by a couple turrets but lands safely on the opposite side of a hill. We walk over and hitch a ride to Everus harbor, he shows us a table and bed, asks if we need water or food. His ship was damaged. We get to Everus and as we are landing in his hangar we are repositioned into the habs. I sent him a friend request. We are friends now. He can be sure, that wherever he finds himself needing help, even in the most dire of circumstances, my friend and I will answer his call. He need not ask.

exist corps or empires like in eve online?

>>1773800
You have 'orgs' which aren't really the same thing

>>1773813
then is like eve online but in firt person?

>>1773850
>can't read or type
Very good

>>1773644
They're already gone except for the three ships they launched and the Vanguard/Armor/Volt SMG patch bundle. If you're talking about the three ships then I have no idea, I don't pay attention to when they leave until I get the concierge email stating they're sticking around for an extra week.

>>1773798
>walk 8+km in SC
>when Item Recovery is on
>not just backspacing

I mean it's fun for the RP but jesus dude

>>1773850
no

>>1772895
>Flightblades
Are completely undertuned garbage, way overpriced too. Considering how shit they are and how little impact they have right now, I wasn't even that mad. Still, I think it sets a pretty shitty precedent. I was more annoyed about the S3 bombracks. That shit actually changes gameplay for ships like the Gladius, turning it into a fighter bomber.

>Dropships
Garbage and will never really have a niche until combined arms are a thing.
>Gunships
The multicrew tax is still too expensive. Multicrew ships need to be exponentially better than bringing single-seat fighters. Turrets especially need MASSIVE buffs to tracking, ammo count and projectile speed. While ships like the HH are incredibly fun to play with 5+ friends, the reality is that they all suck ass and can get fucked by a solo fighter pilot.

>>1773989
You sound like a faggot zoomer who boils down shit into a meta.

>>1774027
the meta is all that matters while trying to remain competitive. saying you don't want to be competitive in a pvp sandbox is the same as saying you enjoy being a doormat for others

>>1774034
It becomes truly blackpilling when you realise this is how the average CIG dev and department lead actually thinks.
It also explains why the game has shifted into just being a pvp themepark.

>>1774027
Look you can enjoy sawing off your leg and limping through the desert all you want, but don't call me a faggot zoomer for saying that that just doesn't sound fun.It's quite the projection on your part too. I'm not a LF meta fag circlestrafing and corkscrewing around HHs in an Arrow or Gladius. But you do you, anon.

>>1773997
Agree on all but one thing.

MC tax IS way too high, but it's kinda mitigated now by the biggest MC ships being so op.
If Im flying Polaris and have a single gunner, I beat or stalemate everything in the game, including another Polaris.
The argument is still the same though. 4 Polaris Vs 1 Polaris with 4 people or 2 Polaris with 2 people. And you get diminishing returns from each crew member where you should be getting increased returns.
And this powercrept multi crew we have right now of course is a step more retarded when you enter Idris to the equation. Where it's the exact same thing but now Idris is untouchable (esp. After hangar door buff) to everything, Polaris is untouchable to everything but Idris.. what else can you call it but pay-to-win?

I wouldn't do Hathor mining without Polaris/Idris for example.

>>1774068
>>1774027

You guys are retarded, what PvP lol.
SC is barely a game, it's far better as a RP/do nothing platform than it's as a PvP game. You have to be pretty bad to think otherwise.

You sound like the guys we fuck up on daily basis trying to grief while we do the shitty events.

>>1774070
>reddit spacing

>>1774071
You got me there, I guess I'm wrong now.

>>1774073
yup, I accept your concession dude

>>1774074
Enjoy being bad.

>>1774069
The question that neither of us can really answer is what CIG has for longterm plans about MC (lmao as if they have any). The issue with large ships like the Idris/Polaris/Whatever is that nobody just wants to be a single-button pusher. Like the torpedo operator on a Polaris - totally stupid and boring gameplay. NPC crews and Blades will be necessary to compensate for that...

But then you have the issue you described, why not have everyone bring their Idris? My hot take would be to split systems into PVP and PVE zones. NPC crew would be too scared to fly in PVP zones, which would force MC.

Idk, there are definitely many angles to the MC issues.

>>1774075
well enjoy you know, heh

>>1774070
I'll re-iterate my point. PU pvp is never going to be competitive or skill based, there are too many variables. Ships all parties are flying is one, Number of participants is another, location, server performance, pc performance.. skill is pretty damn down on the list. There is a reason why the self-professed best pvp players usually play as swarms on PU. And I'm not a pve guy, I really love the idea of there being Piracy. But CIG has removed piracy from the game pretty much completely. Communication tools to parlay have been completely neglected for years - leaving the people who'd like to do that, and the people who'd like to hunt people who do that - with only one option. "Griefing", or killing helpless targets for no gain. PvP in PU is a joke and will always be a joke. Now people enjoying the game for what it is, RP or whatever exploration bullshit the original backers liked- these people are not the pve people who cry about griefing or pvp in general, nor are they the pvp guys who cry about the pve guys. Let these immersion guys enjoy the game, at least someone is.

whats new in 4.2 ptu

>>1774128
apparently the pilot can control the size 6 guns on the polaris now

>>1773798
Yeah thats interesting but all I want to know is how good of a scavenger that ship can be.

>>1774079
too soon

What are the odds Chris pulls a "Freelancer" sells his shit and bails with backer money lol?

>>1774318
Something will go down massively when the Calders use their put option.

People focus on his Freelancer escapades but they also seem to forget his scamming of the film industry after Freelancer. Chris managed to get away with defrauding the German government and then afterwards moved onto...oh SQ42.

>>1774369
you can't defraud the germ*n government, it's not possible

>>1774369
>this picture of croberts on a charter proves that he is stealing

>>1774377
Trust me bro 90 days tops!

>>1774377
Wait till you see his mansion.

>>1774369
>muh Calders
Your info is ancient they already stayed their bet, probably ride or die at this point.

>>1774403
The put option is in 2028. SQ42 has to make over 100 million to stop the Calders rinsing CIG. Yes the Calders stayed the course for now, but only because they are playing the long game.

SQ42 is the turning point for Star Citizen and we all know it's going to be a shitty movie video game with shitty dumbed down controls for the console kiddies.

>>1774375
Chris used a tax loophole. Quick Google:

"Private investors could put their dough in a special fund and claim a tax write off for any money spent on German movie/TV production. Most of this money ended up getting spent on Hollywood films with little to no German involvement (the whole point of the scheme in the first place - boost local film industry)

Ascendant Pictures/Chris received hundreds of millions of dollars (I can't find an exact figure) from one of these funds (VIP Mediafonds) to make an entire slate of pictures.

Only 20% of the money actually got spent on movies. The remaining 80% got funneled through a series of shell companies (sound familiar?) and siphoned off as 'consultancy fees' for the VIP Mediafonds crew.

Chris and co would then get bank loans for the missing money using the 80% as collateral. Investors in this scheme weren't told this, and any profits from the films had go to paying back the bank loans.

The whole thing eventually collapsed, the German government closed the loophole, the investors sued and the head of VIP Mediafonds went to prison.

Chris and Ortwin Freyermuth were summoned by a judge to answer questions during the trial (basically, 'what happened to all that money bro? wheres the contracts? etc'). They sold Ascendant Pictures 10 days before their scheduled appearance and were able to avoid having to testify under oath. Good piece of timing.

All three main guys from Ascendant now work at CIG btw. Another Ascendant guy later went to prison for a separate fraud after he conned a retired firefighter out of his life savings"

>>1774410
you can't defraud the germ*n government

>>1774422
You can say German. You won't get into trouble here for saying it.

Do not worry little zoomer, you don't have to self-censor. You can even say suicide instead of unalive.

>>1774429
I simply don't think they're worth it.

>>1774436
Nigger you having a stroke? What are you trying to say?

>>1774440
????

>>1774318
You can do that to like corporate entities and investor consortiums and such.

Proijet like this millions of fanatical fans, I bet if he did something like that someone particularly deep down the hole would hunt him down.

Never antagonize obsessives who have nothing to lose.

>>1774457
I can see sycophants just doubling down. Imagine some major whales, so entrenched in sunk cost, that they throw down hundreds of thousands to Chris just to keep the light on at CIG to get their perfect sim.

There are some genuinely unhinged players in this game, who are straight up delusional, and will ignore all flaws and criticism of star citizen.

110% we are getting a prowler variant for alien week, the component access is now a walk in textureless closet with a replace me ball door and well laid out component system and engineering panel, it was a simple hatch access panel before.

>>1774474
I'm pretty convinced now that when an older ship just gets broken to shit randomly it's because they are working on a variant.

>>1774474
Data leaks and a gold standard pass pretty much confirm this. Still no new Vanduul ship models, no Railen, no Banu Merchantman, Syulen is utter shit and all the other Alien ships are fucked.

But we CIG needs to sell a new ship every month so for alien week they'll quickly fart out a variant. Prowler is stupidly expensive and useless so God know what the variant could be.

I mean what can it be? A stealth cargo runner with glitchy doors?

>>1774484
if I where to bet probably a bomber, they've been floating an alien bomber for years but it's possible they just said fuck it variants are the new hotness with the current skelington krew

>>1774491
8 s3 bombs, one per hatch.

I could see them do it.

>>1774504
Oh fuck. Yeah you're right. The side hatches replaced with bomb racks. It's fucking horrible. A $450 worse Eclipse.

>>1774484
>Prowler is stupidly expensive and useless
I heavily disagree, the thing is a jumbo sized hornet ghost with roughly the same signature output but with the benefit of interior space and 2 s5 weapons

>>1774457
Im srry anon. Chuds are all badass war veterans behind the keyboard, capable of Rambo-esque heroic feats with a bloodthirst only satiated by the blood of millions, but this is real life we are talking about.
Its like school/the streets all over again. Thats too dangerous.

>>1766977
Whats this exploit, cant find it anywhere.

Any updates on planet tech?

>>1774531
No Im saying somewhere in the ~2million people who have given chris money are at least a few thousands schzos and among those schizos there are surely a couple who are entirely unhinged. Just like by the numbers, when you take money from so many people you have taken money from a handful of properly crazy ones. To then take the money and run would be somewhat likely to set them off in unpredictable ways. Im not saying it'd be justive or anything Im saying the SC community is full of unstable people who have poured their entire disposable income into this project for a decade.

IMO though its a moot discussion, I still think chris is the biggest autist of all and desperately want the game to exist, he's just a micromanager who can't stop fiddling with it cus aforementioned autism. Like he's not gonna run with the money hes gonna run out of money trying to get exactly what he wants.

>>1774537
nvm found it.

>>1774560
>Like he's not gonna run with the money hes gonna run out of money trying to get exactly what he wants.
he's not going to run out of money if he can pump this years financials with one last squeeze of wallets as proof to outside investors that this is a profitable venture

Kinda funny watching retards on ptu
>my X ship should be immune to super lightning it's current year
Ignoring completely that the devs are trying to funnel them to a tram station that bypasses the lightning and gives them access to a rad suit.

Must be hard as a dev when your players are completely retarded.

>>1774588
So you're saying salvaging on the ground in the storm zones is going to be good?

>>1774672
sure if you want to salvage by hand because your vulture is also a fucking lightning rod

>>1774587
Currently they're about 60% above last year's fundraising. Doubt they'll run out of money anytime soon now that Star Citizen is at a point expected of titles entering Early Access on Steam.

>>1774561
dm me the link?

>>1772816
I don't even fly one. Just pointing out CIG loves to randomly fuck multicrew.

It just sucks right now the only weapon balance variables they use to tune ship DPS is mount size and capacitor size. It feels like there's a lot of levers they aren't pulling.

>>1774692
it's just to make the financials look good for the inevitable buyout. probably at the hands of a chinese corporation seeing as they've been heavily courting the chinese audience as of late

>>1774731
Being bought out by the Chinese is a good thing. They are a million times better at game dev than the retards in charge right now

I don't need star citizen having its floodgates opened to the lowest common denominator (anime waifu gachafag jeets) thanks

>>1774900
Already here, fag. Backed in 2013

>“Why would you want to be a button pusher?”

>>1774922
>joysticks, throttles, knobs, levers, switches visible
Seethe more button monkey

>>1774521
The prowler chassis looks cool, and is useless as is.
Repurposing it into a stealth bomber might be fun.

It would be retardedly overpriced though.

>>1774587
>>1774692
Ok, I don't mean like "2 more weeks he's gonna run out of money! for sure this time!"
I mean like he's gonna keep mismanaging and fucking with things trying to hit the moving target of what he think SC should be this year.

I don't think he'll actually run out of money I think he will continue to squander vast amount of dev time and money on flights of fancy and bad "reworks" that make the game worse until something puts a stop to it, which may be him dying of old age rather than any deadline or lack of funds.

Point is the dude has no self control or ability to say "maybe we'll do that later, once the bones and flesh of the game are made" Radical course changes keep happening ten+ years in. Theres no reason to think thats gonna stop and as long as it doesnt stop huge amount of time and money are gonna keep being wasted. Maybe he has infinite money, maybe whales will literally pay him for promises and "eventually" dreams forever. But 15 years from now SC will still be a muddled buggy half-playable state.

>>1774944
This is oldtroon thinking, Benoît has assumed direct control.

next new jpeg when, IAE was Intensly MEH
There was only one good CCU chain and it wasnt even for me I t was to get my nephew a ship for him and his goons to goon around in.

whats the most OP FPS weapon for contested zone? grenade launcher? I've lost red keycard 3 times to tards in the zone

>>1775211
Explosions flatten people which turns them into easy targets. My raifu is the Gallant so I’d probably combo them if I got serious about it. The new Quartz is terrifying up close so that might be the better choice for CZs.

>>1775225
thank u homie hope i dont see u in the zone

>>1775245
No problem. Doubtful we’ll see each other in the zone. I got sick of trying to find a exec hangar that didn’t have a broken comps door. And infrantry pvp in this game is absolute trash

Should I get this game again?

>>1775199
Cool comparison. Kinda horrifying though.

>>1775225
Good taste

>>1775289
It's just gonna be a fucking space plant.

It wont move or tunnel.

>>1775211
whatever you do, don't use the missile launcher to saturation kill an area

Just started going to Hathor to loot the new energy guns, and this shit is so fucking annoying. Everytime I go there, some dickhead destroy my ship. How the fuck am I suppose to go back, just log off and abuse the relocate?

>>1775524
Go back with some friends or an org. You're always going to get fucked in a PvP environment solo.

>NTRGT

>>1774702
The self-professed cultist foxyloxy has a video of it.

>>1775526
>friends
my friends are normalfags and don't play this game
>org
Don't have one. Maybe I should join the 4chan org. Anyone have a link?

>>1775211
A2 bomb

Any known workaround to Ace Pilots not spawning when you kill their ship?

>>1775225
i miss when my Gallant waifu had AUTO firing
i miss when my Demeco mommy had kino slow but heavy ROF
my Daughterfu Lumin is still the same useless in pvp gun

>>1775526
>Middle of Stanton
>PvP environment.

And here's the core problem with everything they add to the game. The Advocacy is completely fucking toothless.

>>1775554
It's fucking Hathor you care bear, it was built to be PvP. You want your PvE hugbox safe space then just wait for Terra.

>>1775557
rust player nazi kkk this is our game go away

>>1775561
get gassed kike

>>1775554
>why can't I pve my way through this pvp event
Clueless retard

>>1775577
dumb bitch

>>1775557
They specifically advertised Hathor as PvE on ISC.

>>1775570
>Solo Idris

>>1775599
>he can't immediately identify ptu footage based on unique characterizes relevant to that patch
I'm better than you

Someone explain the PDC on fighter exploit. I wanna cheese.

>>1775601
>Bragging about being a free qa for cig

>>1775614
I'm the best

>>1775616
I kneel

>>1775608
I'm curious if the redeemer can take them

>>1775608
>>1775619
S1 and some S2 guns can be replaced with PDC. Autoaims with the limits of the gimbal and shoots the s1 laser repeater fire. Crazy fast projectile.

>>1775627
Only s1 size weapons can be swapped for them?

>>1775631
Just tested it, basically any S1 and some S2 hardpoints allow you to equip the PDCs. Just slapped 4 of them on an Aurora.

Crazy how they managed to completely drain all the soul out of this game in like 3 years. Eventslop after eventslop to attract FPS normalfags. At what point do people get fed up with the shittone of throwaway one time use and usually bad content being used in place of actual mechanical changes like armour or engineering?
Honestly the worst part is how everyone seems to glaze them for this. Because the game has been content starved for years so the hungry will cheer for any morsels.

>>1775706
Yeah, the whole selling point of the game is supposed to be players able to make the game's content, but instead the playerbase is being funneled into shitty gacha events to buy shiny thing.

>>1775533
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/en/orgs/MERCH

>>1775818
I have yet to have met any of these anons ingame

>>1775706
They fucked up with the flight model.

A game about spaceships where spaceships aren't fun to use is DED.
In the past I would jump in just to cruise around or kill random shit for hours but they ruined that.

>>1775821
I don't think there is even a way to meet ORG people in-game unless you add them as friends first.
I'm taking a hiatus; the game is literally just grinding and waiting at the moment.

The chances of randomly coming across one of like 10-12 people in this game are astronomically low.
The social facilities of this game are virtually nonexistent so you won't be finding one without already adding them to a friends list and joining them through the menu.

>>1775821
>>1775533

If you are a functional human being you can also join non-anon org, orgs/FML.

We're nothing special but interestingly enough its one of our less active players who makes the videos this image is from on this anon's post: >>1775225

>>1775922
I guess I also kinda missed the point. You will have to be on Org discord to get people to play with, ingame systems amount to fucking nothing.

>Add medical bed to new event area so people don't have to run back.
>Don't bother adding armistice to medical room so people get shot before they even get out of the bed.

The gap between how devs think people will play and how people actually play is the largest I've seen since 3rd edition Warhammer 40k.

>>1775608
>>1775627
Why dont we see more players shooting manual gimbals with look direction like a fucking turret (FPS style)? Its not easy but maybe with training it can become dangerous (never rlly gave a serious look to it). Did they nerfed it or something? Ships like a hornet with turrets sticking to the targets pip.
How much are the max pitch/yaw angle on most ships?

>>1776235
>look direction
look direction is horribly imprecise.
I have head tracking and I'm forced to use look direction to shoot when driving an Ursa and that shit can't manage to hit enemies 10 feet in front of me

>>1776272
Do they have some sort of delay on turn? I think there was a mode where you would see a crosshairs and move it with your mouse independently of the ships nose (you need to move accel/decel to mouse 4/5 or pedals and pitch for W and S or something). I need to see it. Cant you just stick a lead pip on the enemy in that mode?

>>1776304
*this guy seemed to pull it off with the old model
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwJPTbsyiIA

>>1776304
It's more because of the fact that the further out an enemy is, you have to turn your head less to aim at them.
This gets to a point where your muscles are not precise enough to accurately aim when the enemy is far enough away.
This could be paired with head + eye tracking, but I don't have that set up, so I couldn't tell you how effective that is

>>1776324
Yeah I get that. But the mouse is another matter.

>>1767858
I watch SC from afar out of curiosity. And it reminded me of something I used to see and still hear about on occasion:

Behold:
https://www.vermontpublic.org/vpr-news/2018-12-11/the-hole-story-whats-going-on-with-the-downtown-burlington-mall

For many years there have been all kinds of discussions, plans, meetings, you name it about this gosh darn hole. And you know what? They've been working on it. Boy, have they been working on it. They've been working on it this whole time! It's still a hole, but a hole with -progress-.

I wish you guys the best. What you're playing right now and have been playing is the game you're getting, is the experience you'll remember: the hype is real, so to speak. Enjoy it while it lasts. The hole is happy how it is.

for my next trick I predict hawk variants for 4.3

Prowler sneak peak.

>>1776440
I assume the Freelancer is a very modern ship with no need for a remake whatsoever. The middle cargo section proves it.

>>1776470
no it's the top airlock that proves it, sq42 is still using the top and bottom airlock retaliator as per the most recent images after all.

>>1776473
That too.

>>1776470
>Freelancer remake
>S3 bombs
>relatively cheap
>plenty of cargo
There goes the C1/Zeus sales to shit.

>>1776440
Scanning ship, just to fuck with ghost hornets.

>>1776481
To be fair the C1 is the absolute worst ship in its category besides maybe aesthetic. It does literally nothing that any other ship in its class doesn't do better, and even the cutty is arguably a better ship for the role of medium tractor-beam freight despite having less cargo space.

The MSR is garbage too. They need something to justify their existence like, I dunno, super speed like the MSR used to have or something.

this ship is so comfy with the correct lighting
it's like max comfy

>>1776581
>the C1 is the absolute worst ship in its category besides maybe aesthetic

Zeus ES says hi. Worse maneuvering, worse firepower, worse cargo, worse vital health for a tiny bump in shield strength.

>3 intrepids
>2 sabre peregrines
>1 c1
>0 scorpius
Thanks wikelo I love gambling

Are you enjoying Star Citizen?

>>1776581
Doesn't MSR has the data storage thing that it is supposed to be its unique capability that's not implemented yet and that CIG might have forgotten about?

exist any cool histori of star citizen or any corp like in eve?

i heard mg scrip isn't used for favors in 4.2, should I be turning them in now?

>>1776662
Yes

>>1776481
When the Freelancer was superior to the Cutlass Black at the same price, there was no love and respect for the Freelancer. SC's playerbase don't know what a good ship is.

>>1776402
i would coom for this

this jacket remove the bra censoring it's pretty cool

>>1776581
The C1 major con is the cross section. I mean the actual detection range (the fuck with the area, its a PvE ship anyway).
I get the top is quite large (although it should still be smaller like 17-18k max and drop to like 14-15k max when wings fold). The side is just beyond ridiculous.
Its a pity because the amount of ungrided volume for the price is quite good. Also tractor.

>>1777385
*It should also surpass the cutlass in top speed in a straight line (and possibly have at least the same accel). Its a pancake that sacrifices shields ffs. It should have something in return.

>>1777385
I just looked up the stat comparisons between the cutlass and the C1, and holy shit.
These two are supposed to be comparable ships btw

>>1777404
I understand the cutlass being more agile but speed wise it should be the other way around with the C1 actually being faster (only in a straight line).

>>1777404
well you see the cutlass is a light-heavy fighter hybrid and the c1 is crusader and thus fat and bad

>>1777404
Cutlass got some decent agility buffs a few months back out of nowhere so it used to be a far lesser gap.

I did some PvP at contested zones with the parallax rifles.
Are the people there just extremely shit at FPS, or is the rifle just that OP?
I almost never lose fights with it and it has a shitload of ammo

>>1778478
It's pretty shit.
PVP is basically whoever moves the most and engages first wins.
There is so much desync.

>>1778478
the vast majority of players are pve babies who can't fight

>>1778493
but ~60% of pvpers are apparently flamboyant homosexual men or troons?

>>1758606
It's so fucking over for 800milliondollarinocels.

>>1775199
>an actual dune game was announced, developed and released in the time between the worm being first shown and actually implemented
the ones on PTU, the so-called 'apex valakkar' still aren't remotely this large

>>1758606
>800 million dollars, a budget bigger than the income of some small countries
pretty sure even like Liechtenstein and Luxombourg are in the trillions of GDP

>>1778647
From what I've read so far, it is mostly just Conan Exiles with Dune skin.

>>1778687
i played the beta and its just a rust/ark reskin

>>1778501
how much cargo did you lose?

>>1778726
are you wearing lipstick rn my dude?

>>1778501
>Anyone doing something I don't like is a troon
Faggot

>>1778753
You can quite literally observe it my kid, every weirdo uploading pvp content to youtube is either a femboy, a troon, or a furry with few exceptions.

>>1778756
>jewtube is real life
Delusional coward

>>1778768
sounds like I struck a nerve? live your life correctly.

>>1778784
>tells others to live their life "correctly" while thinking youtube is an accurate representation of real life
Utterly retarded

>>1778793
laterally just stop being a sexweirdo dude.

>>1778649
>As of 2023, approximately 40 countries have a nominal Gross Domestic Product (GDP) below $800 million USD. These nations are predominantly small island states, microstates, or countries with limited economic activity.

>>1778796
Just stop being a carebear retard

>>1778816
God didn't make you so you could be like this, repent.

>>1778820
>dead jew on a stick worshiper and a carebear
Pottery

>>1778846
Don't worry anon I still believe in you, there's still time, probably.

>>1778848
>a star citizen thread isn't spared from christcucks proselytizing
Kys

>>1778874
just stop being gay, gg ez.

In game pvpers apparently not so good at chat pvp.

>>1778876
>a dead kike on a stick worshiper thinks he is anything other than retarded
Sad, many such cases.

>>1779027
so were you molested?

>>1779028
>noo you can't pvp in a mmo with pvp
>noo you have to worship my kike
>noo you're gay
They type of people this game attracts is so varied yet so so mentally ill.

>>1779029
stop being evasive, see>>1779028

>>1779031
Sorry I forgot
>asks if others were molested when they express revulsion at their carebear posts and christcuckery
Is that better clown?

>>1779033
>They type of people
Why are your hands shaking? Why can't you answer my questions?

>>1758495 (OP)
Thoughts on Morphologis?

>>1776626
>>1777335
Stop playing as female. Its bad enough the SC community as a whole is fagpozzed, you people arnt welcomed here.

>>1776717
I pray for a Freelancer mk2 / Remake daily. That line has so much SOVL.

>>1779296
Faggot. Irrelevant. Typical youtuber.

Stormbreaker is going to be a mess. Played though it the other night with some friends on the PTU. Instantly killed my hype for not only the patch but playing SC for at least a couple of days.

>>1779300
>Freelancer Mk2
You have so many MISC dick-shaped ships to choose from and yet you chose the faggiest one.

>>1779309
I came, I got a funny suit from the door lock puzzle thing, shot everything that moved, then left after soft killing every landed ship.

I have no idea what the mission is but I think I won it.

>>1779309
is this the valakkar thing? I went there solo, looted a suit, killed a guy and then stood there and watched his friends res him and they couldn't ID me as the guy who did it lmao. >>1779401
there's supposed to be a puzzle? I just walked in

Everyone seems to think Scrip wont be tradeable to Wikelo Favor any more on 4.2, what do you think?

>>1779882
They hopefully change the way you trade it. I think having physicalized currency is retarded but as long as they make it so you don't have to wait for random-ass missions to pop up anymore and instead get to trade it via console, it's fine by me.

>>1779882
The files say yeah, it's valakaar pearls only now unless they change their minds last minute. They also lowered the number of favors needed for ships by about half.

Guess they didn't like the idea of people getting wikelo ships often it's supposed to be a once a patch type thing or whatever.

>eclipse torps can now actually make it through pdc's
>3 eclipses can kill a polaris fairly easily now
>Somehow this was a buff to cap ships and eclipse players are mad
????

>>1776661
>nobody replied
I assume nobody is enjoying Star Citizen.

>>1779891
The bonkers thing is they reduce the favors while simultaneously making the favors only earnable from a group PvE event in a PvP zone and also requiring you to run a solo PvE mission about 160 times if you want a medium or larger ship. Even if you use a capship with a crew to run the biggest patrol mission its still 48 missions total...for a Constellation Taurus at best. What the fuck is wrong with them.

>>1780297
I keep saying; what most of us want is a personal sandbox where we can invite people in, and what the PvPers want is being able to invade that sandbox.
Forced PvP drives out the former, ultimately leaving the latter with little reason to stay.

"Starkov" gameplay inherently does not function in a persistent universe; without instancing, any sufficiently attractive and popular point-of-interest is going to be gate-kept by orgs. It MAY work in a game world that is so large randomly encountering a player amongst a sea of NPC is like finding a needle in a haystack, but we all know a game so extravagantly large is not feasible.
I personally think it's not a good idea to chase after the EVE or the "Starkov" crowd, but that's just me.

>>1780353
>It MAY work in a game world that is so large randomly encountering a player amongst a sea of NPC is like finding a needle in a haystack,
You just described Elite Dangerous. The thing is when you find a player it’s 90% of the time a murderhobo in a max upgraded ship that’ll try to instantly rape you. The other 10% might as well be bots that refuse to interact with you at all.

>>1780353
Thank god they don't care about what you and your ilk think.

>>1780362
No one wants to play with you, and that's why this game will most likely die quietly in the corner once the power creep and ship prices are no longer reasonable even to those who've already spend thousands over this past decade.

>>1780372
I don't pvp though, I mine and salvage.
I'm just not a coward bitch who demands an entire MMO caters to what I think is fun.

>>1779401
Yeah even with the respawn changes on this weekends PTU patch its still going to boil down to TDM. 6 months into the year of "Stability and Content" And all we've gotten is rehashed Star Marine and AC maps for open world PVP. Kinda expected more.

>>1779476
Yeah Stormbreaker is the marketing name for it. Kinda like Hathor.

>>1780353
Murder Hoboing is not new. I've been doing it since the PU launched. PVP / Ganking is the only complete content loop in this game. Its tiresome. It's painfully clear NOTHING will change until we get underlying connective systems in the game. Overhauls socials/chat. Orgs in game. Law and order overhaul (Never ever) shit - even turning off com arrays hasn't really changed since the early PU days. They should be akin to a mini dungeon or firefight.

>>1780377
>I mine and salvage.
To what end?
Are you the forklift simulator guy?
I grind for aUEC so I can blow it on ammo and ordinance when I roll with other people.
What do you mind and salvage for?

>>1780403
Just a reminder that you are arguing with forum dads that spend hundreds if not thousands of dollars on jpegs of a concept. All so they can mindlessly haul space poop from one station to another.

>backed for a life-in-space sim in a hyper-immersive universe where systems interlink to form complex gameplay loops
>get a poorly thought-out theme park sandbox game where the only remotely fleshed out gameplay is pvp all the while, all the money and dev time is going to someone's ego project instead

cap ships are now a solvable equation for the average player and you're blackpilling?

>>1780506
>farts out 2 flares
What?

>>1780517
*smack* *smack*

I bought a starlancer tac, it seems pretty useful on everything ground wise. will this thing get nerfed to the ground? It seems useful for alot of situations

>>1780649
I doubt they'll nerf it. It's pretty shit for anything other than pve and roleplaying

>>1780649
just got buffed, no real reason to nerf it either except for the med beds which may go back to not being respawn points at any time, but that affects all ships with medbeds

>>1780724
all ships except apollo and idris that have tier-1 beds

>>1780728
what even is the respawn radius of tier-1 beds anyways? I can't find this info anywhere

>>1780362
Clearly, since he described what was promised in the original Kickstarter and what they've delivered is "Rust in space".

Mine imperator, a 16th idris-p has just hit IO North Tower

>>1780904
do you get the railgun or laser? If not, then what's the point

>>1780935
you can just detach the railgun from someone who has it and attach it to your hull

>>1780950
locked to the ship like size 3 and up components in 4.2.

>>1780951
what happens to the salvaged railguns you acquired in 4.1.1?

>>1780964
probably deleted by the anti dupe system but that shit is wonky as all hell

>the bird samurai race that humanity enslaved and stole shield tech from might have had gundams

What are the absolute most common FPS weapons in the game? Some combo of Sniper/AR + SMG that is not complete dogshit. Some combo that works for both Pyro and Stanton so you never run out of ammo.
P4 and C54?

>>1781119
you can get ammo for pretty much every weapon at any shop so you can run whatever weapon you want without worrying about ammo.
That said
>common weapon
>combo of sniper/AR
probably the Karna rifle.

>>1781119
I like the S71 the most. It's been more common on enemies these days, has good ammo economy, can be silenced and has a lot of good options for scopes from 1x RDS to 4X scopes. Of course the P8-AR has better damage per shot but I find the 15rd mags to be very anemic. The S71 can deliver quicker follow-up shots easily, too. I also love to run the P8-SC SMG, S1 suppressor can be bought pretty much anywhere and you can quickly magdump people in a pinch.

>>1781172
If you are doing outpost shit taking those long shots or if you are saving on ammo the S71 is the gun. But for TTK the P4 is slightly better and also fully automatic.
The P8-SC is underrated. That thing must be one of the best weapons with a tweaker compensator (I think thats the one with increased RoF) and laser pointer to maintain spread values. Quartz-tier TTK on that shit without light obfuscation and decent accuracy (for a smg).

On a side note: I think CIG is fucking up the games lore. Volt guns were supposed to be cheap low quality shit and Gemini was supposed to be elite and above Behring (rich prick guns). Its not looking that way.

>>1781281
*P4 with mods (tweaker+laser), otherwise its dogshit.

>>1781281
I think they are ultimately heading to all the current guns being "tier 0" of the crafting system. Eventually on your ships you'll want to replace your M5As with M5Bs and M5Cs.

Its really weird when you read the lore for the Sakura Sun "-fire" guns that still aren't in the game yet and they list out the complete set of "improved version" suffixes.

>>1781341
Where does one fine this lore?

>>1781378
They posted it on the website long ago, it's compiled into the star citizen wiki.

https://starcitizen.tools/Sakura_Sun

>Each MP/WC size has five production models, that range in quality and price from basic to extreme luxury class. EX, DX, X and XT are the standard range, plus a fifth model that is produced in extremely limited numbers and given a "2×01" numerical designation (Breezefire 2101, Windfire 2201 and the like). These are extremely prized, and even older models sell for a significant amount on the secondary market.

So once they finally implement crafting tiers, the Stormfire EX would be the base level Size 3 energy gatling, the XT would be the top crafted version, and the 2301 would be the "special reward" version.

Note that they wrote this in 2013 and we still don't have energy gatlings for whatever reason.

>>1780170
The only people who used torps were dumbfiring at melee range so it's a direct attack on their playstyle

>>1781287
>P4 with mods (tweaker+laser), otherwise its dogshit.
Does the laser have to be on for it to take effect? I can't tell the difference.

>>1781119
>Some combo of Sniper/AR + SMG that is not complete dogshit.
SR71 with 3X scope, compensator and scorched flashlight.
A03 with X16 telescopic and laser pointer.
Don't use SMG's. Too much kick at medium range and they burn through too much ammunition. If you're a decent shot, the SR71 will do the same but with a far better ammunition economy.
This matters more in Pyro and less in Stanton. Pyro is an endurance run most of the time, Stanton is loaded with all kinds of ammunition and gear.

>>1781742
From what I’ve read , no it doesn’t matter

>>1780739
T3 - 20km
T2 - 50km
T1 - No limit

glint is gay

>>1779300
>Stop playing as female. Its bad enough the SC community as a whole is fagpozzed, you people arnt welcomed here.
all white beard nigger faggots sitting in bench at stations are mad at me for playing a character that actually look good
the faggots plays black old dicks like you

>when you nd the idris railgun into some pyro moon

>>1782210
You should be playing as a randomized elderly Mongolian man with a10's it's the future you bigot.

>>1781969
This can't be right. I died planetside a few times this patch when my Idris is a few Mms away and didn't respawn on the T1 bed there.

what's the largest cargo actually solo ship

>>1782458
hull a probably, everything else is technically multicrew.

>>1782458
hull C

>>1782458
>>1782462
technically the Idris since you can fit like over 5k SCU of cargo if you go offgrid

>>1782462
>>1782467
I said solo, cant use turrets when I fly
>>1782461
thanks

>>1781969
>T2 - 50km
>T1 - lightyears
Kind of a jump eh?

>kraken: $1,600
>Idris: $1,500
>Kraken owners get a polaris loaner
Make it make sense.

>>1782666
drake

if I steal someone's ship and they then claim it or log off, does it disappear?

>>1782694
no, at least not immediately
if you unlock it it'll stay around so long as it's being occupied every so often by a player

>>1781742
Old post but laser pointer reduces weapon spread. Its on Dabalta sheet. Otherwise nobody would use it ever.

>>1782458
Solo its prolly the Raft (not a fighting ship at all), the Asgard and Taurus in this order. Last 2 are basically VHRT/ERT farming ships.

Fug, I didn't think about it clearly before now. But I just realized the new Prowler is an EMP emitter ship. Ofcourse it is, thats why the fucking distortion changes.... CIG never fixes anything without a ship to sell with it.

Will they fix small drug packages so they actually stick to grids like the CSV-SM and mule or even allow us to store them inside containers?

>>1782815
If you blur the line that much, then its obviously C2.

>>1782818
Perhaps a bomber with distortion bombs as default. Anyhow, thats what it is.

I finally decided to practice dogfighting in Arena Commander and my takeaway from this game mode is basically stick with your teammates and try to gank singled out enemies for easy wins.
Why is it that the only thing that matters in a fight is how many people you bring. It kinda sucks desu

>>1782859
Welcome to the pinnacle of air combat maneuvering irl, why play fair when you just die for real be a bastard and double team people always.

>>1782859
the old flight model was the other way around where you could just maintain gaps and even separate entire groups to dominate 4v1s

>>1782382
That is how it is setup, but at some point they bugged out and T3 and T2 medbeds got the infinite range of the T1. No one really seems to give a shit either way.

what's the best ship for rip and runs?

>>1782832
C2 is most definitely not a solo ship. The Starlancer can be flown solo (the max) but I think its overkill (thats where the line get blured). And its only good for space stuff. Corsairs and Taurus are like the top tier jack of all trades for PVE (land and space). For land only you always go smaller.

>>1783069
avenger

so are ballistics good again yet or is it still lasers only?

>>1783131
Lasers only

>>1782458
Hull series since it supports station auto-loading and auto-unloading (when it isn't broken lmao) so you only need a single person to simply fly it and the larger variants hold obscene amounts of cargo.

>>1782818
Distortion changes were most likely done for the new event but I do agree that it's probably an EMP/Distortion Prowler due to the associated faction also being a producer of disruption weaponry so it makes sense to pair a ship with the updated mechanics. The new event location utilizes distortion damage to shutdown your ship but players had no idea it was happening due to no UI indication that you're taking distortion damage so they added it to the UI. Then players were dropping bombs and torpedoes on the new boss from orbit so they added distortion damage to missiles/bombs/torpedoes. I'm guessing it'll be 2x S5 or 4x S4 Distortion Repeaters(which might even be the event reward for the cross-shard event they're doing) for the pilot and 4x S2 laser gatlings for the slaved co-pilot turret.

>>1758878
>ship:
Gladius
>gun:
CF (fuck SC FPS)
>SQ42:
>1.0:
Literally already a successfully monetized live service right now, anyone who thinks this is going to "blow up" or that they'll change their monetization model is witawuhly regarded. 1.0 means that CR is abandoning money making scheme due to unseen pressures and the dev stops

size 10 Idris rotary cannon

>>1783687
Skuttlebutt is mvp and 1.0 is all Benoît's direction, we'll see this month what happens though he's contractually required to stay with CIG until the end of June. He's also bought in more shares recently so he's not likely to be leaving.

>Walk back removing MG scrips from Wikelo.
>Now the Wikelo "small ship surprise" is the MISC Fortune and five different dirt cheap ground vehicles.

They were seriously expecting people to stock up 150 valakkar pearls for a fucking Aopoa Nox?

>>1783902
to be fair, these are the probability distributions

Why y'all niggas get so made when I steal your ores? It's just a game

>>1784025
Thanks for making me bro.

>>1758878
Harold Drake in General, I have over the years converted more and more of my jpegs to Drake Jpegs, but Harold is Love Favorite will likely become Ironclad LST once it is real.
Karna, AO3, S38
2 more Years
2042

>>1762232
I kept my QI.
Lack of bed actually fucks that ships usefulness.
It's whole Heavy fighter ness and daily driver usefullness went away in favor of mor eshield and a little more dps.

4xs4 and now its basically just a fat, tanky F7A

also I HATE the way they mounted the guns. they should have been in the wings not jutting out of them and they block visual and look awkward, so much so they have to articulate out of the way when it lands.

Like IMO the MX is the worst version of the ship.

>>1762501
there was a decent set during invictus, just one.
??? to GMX to Caterpillar on Drake Day to Starlancer Tac.

I turned a $180 Guardian QI I made previously into a Starlancer Tac for $30 additional, for a Total $210 Taclancer, which I then gave to my nephew for his borthday, cus he was drooling all over it but didnt have the cash or an easy path to it from his own ships.

>>1762232
Going to be a lot more useful when we have armor and soft deaths more often.
Pretty much the perfect heavy fighter.

is the mantis still bugged?

>Decide to grind for navy armor since they're arbitrarily raising the number of helmets required next patch.
>Do quest turnin for Yela after getting arms and legs.
>Quest shows pilot helmet not turned in, helmet disappeared from inventory.
>Grind another helmet because I don't want to make use of favor and medal in vain.
>Exact same thing happens.

How the fuck do you manage to fuck up something as simple as a quest turnin NPC? Even fucking Everquest 1.0 had better quest npcs.

>My buddy and I finally decide to try and do the Hathor site since we're on a sub 70 pop shard
>Everything going smoothly
>Fell through the planet at the activation bunker, losing all my spare mags
>Shrug and continue onto the Hole
>Use up most of my ammo on those stupid worms and begin mining
>30 minutes later I'm taking shots
>Pop a sick 270 in my ROC and jump out
>Instead of pushing me while I'm exposed, the retard backs off, tosses a shitty frag, and then stares at me with empty hands while I mag dump him with my trusty Gallant
>Last mag, less than half
>His retard in crime is camping the hole
>Run out of ammo finally, but my friend runs up from the side and buries his ass
>We decide to fuck off with our spoils and depot it all
>Loot their bodies and go, scoring nearly 80 mags of parallax ammo between the two of them
>Come back out of curosity
>Retards are back
>This time they bring a pisces to shove into the Hole and blow up everything
>Decide I had enough retards for the day and head off
I'm honestly astounded at how bad people are at this game. The best part was they were both wearing that ugly fucking glowing bone armor so I could seem them from a mile away.

>>1784556
I had this happen several times. Wikelo is penny slot casino trash.
Do the helmet first to make sure it takes, then cycle the elevator again to load and send the favor + medal.
>Fuck Wikelo

>>1784806
if you manage kill 1 player you're better than 60% of the active player base, everyone sucks at this game

>>1784806
To be fair the keybinds and latency for this game are impressively shit, ~20% of the time you pull out a weapon and then instantly holster it for no reason.

>>1761086
They can make the meteor a sort of advanced cutlass (if they rlly want cash). Unlikely though. The one in the picture could also be the apollo.
Wtf is that Drake ugly BS? The landing gear is fucked.

>2025, the year of beam weapons
Star Trek aimbot in 3...2...1...

Low sig ambush ship jacker vehicle when?

>>1785257
you already have the pulse?

>>1785159
savior of multi-crew

besides the x1 what fits in the 400i bike bay?

>>1785601
it's too small to fit my endless disappointment

>>1785312
You need to disable everything but 1 pip of the engines to achieve slightly under 1km detection range (like 700-800m). Ranger better be in the 400-500m sig or something (engine only). If a sniper spots you he will goatse you anyway.

>>1785692
*what I mean is at least get some protection from what comes above.

>>1785692
>Ranger better be in the 400-500m sig or something (engine only)
Space bicycle when?

>>1784853
Equipment swapping and equipped ammo (thus reload) should be handled clientside.

The fucking ciggers had to go and put everything on the server.

Unironically ground vehicles probably need to be completely removed from the game for a while. the legacy code they use needs to be completely thrown out it's 100% not compatible with server meshing and needs a full re-write not 15+ bandaid fixes that didn't fix anything in the end.

>>1785692
according to spviewer, only having a single pip on engines gives you 425 max signature head-on, which means you'll be detected at 404m by an Idris

>>1786335
I think the real issue is the planetary surfaces - theres giant jagged rocks everywhere and vehicles can constantly beach themselves on tiny trees and rocks. Some of the planet surfaces are vile.

>>1787147
Fuego is TERRIBLE for this exact reason a million little rocks and shrubs FUCKING EVERYWHERE.

>>1787147
Fucking Hurston with those spikes ass rocks placed just far enough apart that an Ursa looks like it might fit but doesn’t, and they are fucking everywhere forcing me to use a dragonfly.

>>1786335
>>1787147
>>1787347
>>1787737
slow down

>>1787147
>>1787347
>>1787737
>>1788140
Hovertanks when?
Hovertrucks when?
Hover mining platform when?

>>1790289
Mobile suits when?

What are some good pvp orgs to try out for/play with if I'm trying to get into that scene? I'm PU-good and AC-ok but you can only get so far solo.

>>1790437
I only know avengerone by name and he is a right cunt.
Most orgs do PvP in some amount I reckon, but not 100% of the time. Kinda hard in PU anyway, would mean camping Hathor hoping for any action. ASD will let you PvP I guess.

I just want a pirate org, so I can use my reclaimer and mantis to trap and break down players ships

>>1790689
Too bad the Mantis doesn't work, and good luck convincing anybody to manually offload cargo from a Reclaimer.

Is there any under suit that doesn't clip through the legs of Arden-SL armour. It's really fucking janky.

>>1790437
discord.com/invite/sPduyswAZE
You can find a list of recommended pvp orgs on there. JW also does his own fighter pilots ranking system, the last time I looked shadow moses had the largest amount of top tier pilots.

>>1790695
the jammer works fine you can keep people locked to SCM just fine if you can find someone, the server meshing snare issues are pure bullshit though, we used to be able to triangulate jumps to close in and interdict a mission target running in deadspace, now you need a nat 20 to interdict someone on a direct path through you.

>>1784194
>also I HATE the way they mounted the guns. they should have been in the wings not jutting out of them and they block visual and look awkward, so much so they have to articulate out of the way when it lands.
If you double-tap "P" to toggle weapons power, they will stay retracted and still fire normally. It's probably only on your client, but they aren't blocking your view.

>New Prowler variant is a cargo ship
For fucks sake

>>1793024
>32 SCU
Good one Chris.

>Kraken? no no, sorry, it's not ready yet
>here have a CARGO PROWLER instead
AAAAAAA

>>1793028
>Super advanced ayy lmao tech gets mogged by some dude in a Cutlass Black

Drake CHADS stay winning once again

>>1793098
It has lower IR/EM than a Sabre, out DPSs heavy fighters while being as nimble/fast, and has the same shields as the Asgard. How can Drake beltalowda slop even compete?

>>1793110
It has three doors, a turret, used Corolla pricing, room for small vehicles, and a flask you permanently borrowed from your Corsair buddy. It's also plenty nimble and has a smallish footprint which, combined with the side doors, make it great for loot n scoot, especially if you load it out with stealth components.
It also doesn't look like a literal fucking bird.

>>1793117
>20gs of thrust in VTOL
Let's not be modest anon

>>1793117
>smallish footprint
>Cutlass

>>1793024
All the variants players came up with are so much better. What is cig doing
>Atls carrier
>Emp pulse ship
>Laser beam ship

>>1793110
>It has lower IR/EM than a Sabre
Isn't the prowler a size 2 ship (size 2 components)?
Does everything just shit all over the (base) Sabre now? Hornet Ghost has about the same signature and has much more firepower, Firebird shits missiles and is faster, and now the Prowler variant is basically a heavy fighter with room for cargo and yet has a similar signature.

>>1793239
To be fair it still is an atls carrier

>>1793024
I'm a bit confused as to why they downgraded the weapons on it. It's only slightly more stealthy than the cutlass black outfitted with stealth components in practical terms due to crossection bottlenecking stealth and has inferior handling and less cargo SCU plus can't carry vehicles and has no bed. This is such a hyper niche ship and I don't even see the niche it has being remotely practical, you don't have enough SCU to run actual cargo and even if you ran high value cargo stealth isn't going to do anything for you since you either have to land at an extremely visible pad to load/unload cargo or you need to go to a station and request a hangar which will get you jacked because you have a 2k+ crossection while you wait for a hangar to be assigned and open. There's no remotely feasible instance where the extra 1.5-2k detection range on the cutlass black will get you caught whereas you would've slipped by in the new prowler.

They fried the PU servers, it's so joever

>>1793309
Think of the high value shit you have to carry though... scrip for Wikelo exchange, yoinking A rank s1 comps from PAF battery rooms someone else opened, or maybe getting the new worm loot out in 4.2. Having that shit on a cargo grid is safer. I wonder if you could yoink the comps from a PAF battery room with the tractor while not even getting out or landing.
The ways they made it shittier than the base Prowler are pretty disappointing though, it's like some of John Crewe's "FUCK heavy fighters" mental illness acted up and he made it gay and lame before returning to fellating an Idris.

>>1793788
I've had 0 problems lugging wikelo's trash, but stealing comps i can see

>>1793800
This btw is kinda weird. Granted for some stupid reason they made 3 wikelos. But even still you'd imagine it would be the most valuable place to pirate out of everywhere - and they have no turrets. Yet I never see any pirates or anyone there, it's almost like anyone with brain has given up on pirating and the people who still do pu pvp are braindead.

>>1793837
The armistice zone there is enormous. It makes pirating there virtually impossible.
With snaring basically unusable, you can't effectively grief these Space Casino Slot players.

>>1794012
I see, that explains it.

>>1794012
you would think that until you understand you can just ram people coming in to land and have friends on standby to loot the wreckage

>>1794050
how can anyone kill me with ramming when I go there in an Idris?

>>1793837
I once had someone in a Hornet try to plap my Zeus I was lugging my gambabux in at the Yela Wikelo station, but I just flew past him at max NAV speed into armistice and that was that.

>>1790289
The problem with hovertanks is they're obnoxious about what vehicles fit into what ships, and a hovertank would have a super low profile unpowered and then shoot up six feet powered. So you'd have a tank that could fit in the same place as an Ursa as long as you had a Maxlift to carry it out before turning it on.

Not a problem for players, but a problem for the CIG sales department who want to keep selling Asgards and M2s.

>>1795059
Yeah. Love bullshit like the C1 having two useless tabs on the floor that are purely there to stop you from fitting anything bigger than a Cyclone onboard.

>>1795059
Don't worry, they'll just make it so physically massive in some random direction that it doesn't fit into anything short of a C2

the idris doors being blown open with a light breeze is bullshit, how did cig not test that at all?

>>1796483
been fixed since the beginning of 4.2 ptu, probably was that way due to the board the idris events

>>1796645
It isn't though, the Idris doors still have less health than the Polaris one.

>>1796837
The Idris back door is 350k and front doors are 100k each the Polaris hangar is 300k now.

>>1797126
so 1 railgun and all your ships are destroyed

>>1797127
If you have that kinda insane luck them at best 2 and even then it's probably just going to got the shield edges of a ship inside and do no damage.

Turbulence mechanics need a lot of work, there seems to be only 1 control law for the ifcs so it will continually pitch you up over time trying to maintain 1g.

since alien week is coming, is the glaive still a 300$ piece of shit despite it's size 5 cannons ?

>>1797616
No, it's a $350 piece of shit. None of the alien ships are of note except the prowler due to having heavy fighter handling and mounting 2x S3 and 2x S5 but it catches both the alien tax and dropship tax. They've all been powercrept out of existence, to the point the cutlass black is on par with or exceeds all the alien fighters.

>>1797635
I thought the blade was still good as a light fighter ? I guess the talon was also left behind in the stealth department
I've got a khartu al as my only pledge ship and I swear since "master" mode the poor thing's sluggish now but I don't want to switch ship

>>1797675
Talon is great right now and is getting a buff. Prowler and it's upcoming variant are dogshit.

>>1797744
at this speed maybe i'll see a apopoa buff in 4 years or when they release another useless fucking variant rather than fixing what's already there

>>1797769
Melt or upgrade to a blade or something. Sorry bro ;_;

>>1797807
No it's fine. I'll keep the lobster ship even if it's disabled, I love it's design too much.
It's just weird to see some ships / line up just left in the dust like the aliens, CNOU or Origin.

320$ for the prowler variant lmao

>>1798445
not just a prowler variant, but an inferior prowler as well. I really wonder what use case they had in mind for such a ship as the prowler utility. I wonder how many man hours were spent in meetings and design reviews to produce, what is essentially, a shittier cutlass with a stealth bonus.

>>1798655
steal from the mining orgs

>>1798655
Not even that stealthy it has a Crossection of 10k.

>>1798445
Consider the following.
The Anvil Asgard is the same price.

>prowler utility says flight ready
>isn't in live
GIMME THE SHIP I PAID FOR ROBERT

>>1799409
>this fucking rube spent $300 on a cargo ship with 32 scu

>>1799422
all ships in this gaame are bad so i just melted everything to try it out, will assuredly melt it when the next thing comes out