Thread 1871638

or: This Event Sucks (redux) Edition

>Live Patch = 4.2.1
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/en/comm-link/Patch-Notes/20598-Star-Citizen-Alpha-411
>Evocati/PTU Patch = 4.3
Soon™

>Star Citizen Overview for New & Returning Players
https://rentry.org/guier/

>Compiled List of Useful Resources
https://rentry.org/rbrcz

>/SCG/ Referral Code Randomizer - Contribute your code by finding it here: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/referral-program then reply to the OP
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>Current Event(s)
Cargo Cuck Shitstravaganza
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/en/comm-link/transmission/20651-Alpha-421-Race-For-Stanton


>JPEG News
new P2W Mantis kitbash (it is the next step in power creep and ruining the game)
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/en/comm-link/transmission/20652-RSI-Meteor


Today's SCL:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSm-uwRB_ZM

>Previous Thread
>>1800159

>>1871638 (OP)
I fucked up the first link but it's there anyway for the event link

You know what? I'm just going to say it, I am a pathetic fomo box cuck. I deserve this.

ciggers

>@Wakapedia-CIG
>We've deployed a service-side hotfix onto the LIVE environment that should make "Ship Under Attack" (Resource Drive), Gilly's Flight School, and Foxwell missions constantly available. Let me know if they start popping back up again!

>>1871732
>X for doubt

>>1871732
it'll pop back up. but only for an hour or two and then the server will degrade and they'll disappear again

they still haven't increased box size for the regular hauls lmao

I LOVE MY HAWK.

>>1871835
please think of the poor prowlers

>>1871839
prowlers aren't doing large hauls. it's fucking nonsense

>>1871852
bu-but think about the epic piracy they could be doing!!

>>1871835
>>1871839
If you own a prowler futility just do the 10x8 scu missions and hover over the ground and grab them, no need to even fight the npcs.

>>1871894
if you own a prowler futility you're a fucking retard and should be laughed at for being a paypiggy

>>1871835
they made them 4 scu on purpose, why do you retards think they have any plans on increasing the size

>>1871894
Do what most Prowler Futility pilots do, steal boxes from boxcucks doing the hauling missions.
Literally NOTHING is stopping you. Worst thing that can happen is people cry in chat, which can be entertaining to some.

>>1871917
and what is said purpose

>>1871835
They can't because then the retards will start sperging
>why m2 only fit 320 scu the ship manager says 522
Also it would expose that they designed all the ships wrong.

>>1872072
We've known for years that ship designs are fucked because they necessarily need to fit inside the small-medium-large-extra large hangar categories

>>1872247
how is that a problem at all?

where do you buy ammo for volt guns?

>spent like 30 mins getting large ship mission and putting 80 scu of another contract on board
>finally qting to drop it off
>ship disappears under my ass

year of stability and playability my ass

can't believe even with working combat missions shitty raft runs is still the fastest way to complete the event even with broken FEs

>>1872980
raft is gods ship

>>1872332
Standardized hangar sizes constrain ship designs by mandating that each ship class have a maximum size and be longer along their Z axis.
This is further complicated by CIG designing the outside of a ship first, and then filling it with whatever they plan to add later. The Idris, Carrack, Polaris, Sabre etc etc are slightly deformed or needed to be bumped up a ship class because they couldn't fit everything into an in-game rendition of the concept art.
The obvious solution would be to add extra extra large hangar sizes, but Destroyers and upwards aren't meant to land on planets. So every player ship going forward will need to conform to the constraints of the hangars we already have.

>>1873402
were docking ports in the game when XL hangars were added?

>>1873450
I can't remember.
What I do know, though, is that nearly every ship we have is supposed to fit inside a hangar. Everything larger than an Idris can only go in-atmo once before never leaving again.
When talking about the Kraken's reconcepting or whatever, they either need to make it fatter so everything can fit inside or bump it up an an entire ship class, at which point it won't be usable on a planet.

>>1873402
class and size are not linked, hangars are not restricted by class, only size. likewise they don't have to be longer on a certain axis, see the reliant. the only constraint is the [massive] hangar size, and realistically only the extra large provides any real constraint because they can just assign a ship to it if it's too big for the others. this is not a real issue

>CIG designing the outside of a ship first, and then filling it with whatever they plan to add later
this is stupid and I agree that CIG is bad. but that's a separate issue entirely, and CIG's own design intentions were that idris and larger sized ships would be persistent, could not go into instanced hangars, and would live in the world perpetually, even when you were logged off. so docking is in line with that.

>>1873612
>but that's a separate issue entirely
It's intrinsically linked through.
Here's a fun autism experiment: take four pieces of differently sized graphing paper. Draw a rough outline of your dream spaceship, then try to put all the details you think you might want inside.
After a certain point you're going to need to either expand the outline of the ship to accommodate what you want or just get a larger piece of paper.
The reason why the Polaris (as an example) has such a dysfunctional interior design isn't because CIG is retarded, it's because Chris wanted to maintain the ship's aesthetics while still having the core functionality. Same shit with the Idris and soon to be the Kraken.
There's literally no reason why something like the vulture should have a fucking ladder leading up to the cockpit, but that's because Chris wanted it, not because it's a good design decision.
This kind of retardation translates hangar sizes too, because ships of equal classes are roughly the same size, even though proper functionality would require something like a reclaimer to not have crewmembers act like goddamned baggage handlers.

>>1873685
My point being, a lot of this shit is derived from Chris's desire to maintain the outer aesthetics of the ship. Everything else is whatever.

lmao

Caught a looping 30k and last recovery was going over 15 mins so I altf4d, now hours later Im locked into a region and get perma loading.
Is my account fucked for this patch? If I have to reset and restart the event I cba CIGgers can go fuck themselves.

>>1875520
people that land nose down deserve it

>>1875601
looked like he got hooked in the ass and it forced him into that position, but how fast are you landing that fucking thing? it's the size of an apartment building, slow down and make sure your path is clear ffs

>>1875557
try another region server my dude

>>1875653
>Im locked into a region
>try another region server my dude
concierge moment

>>1875664
I read hastily.

Will character reset really remove your progress to the event?

>>1875520
this happened to me before. You can fix it by getting out of the ship, opening the hanger doors, and storing the ship

Think I figured out why the Raft elevator keeps getting stuck. I frequently use the open/close all doors keybind, and I suspect that the Raft elevator will hang on the step where it opens the bottom door if it's already open. CIG must've forgotten a failsafe if such a thing happened. Will test later, but I need a reliable way to get in/out of the airlock. Probably just EVA.

When do you think the current event is going to end/next patch is going to drop?

Tried my first cargo haul today, it's going to take a lot longer than I expected because all the boxes are only 4 SCUs (WTF WHY)

>>1876791
does it have multiple buttons? the cat side doors have 3 buttons each now, plus the open all button in the cockpit. they're constantly breaking, and often you have to go down on the elevator door and press open (even though it is open) and then it will reset to close. they're like poorly wired lights with more than one switch

>>1876811
CIG is not communicating jack shit so who knows. Originally they mentioned "month", but I think they will keep the event going longer now.

Whats a decent cheap ship to do pve combat missions?

>>1876965
gladius

>>1876965
Cutlass Black, can rent it for 50k or buy it for 2m and it's great for pretty much all entry level professions since it has enough space to throw looted cargo from PVE bounties and enough firepower to take on NPC fighters and light haulers.

>>1876812
Just one for each floor to call it. It's not a traditional door, but a 3 position elevator to enter the ship or swap floors.

>>1876965
I like the Avenger. Due to having interceptor class, it can achieve incredible acceleration and top speed. This means you can enter and exit fights as you please. The downside is that every thruster that isn't the main one can feel pretty weak, meaning you need to learn to compensate. My pick is the Warlock due to it having the EMP, but it is admittedly real l rarely useful due to it taking two emissions to fully distort most light fighters. It takes crazy good timing to knock out missiles with it.

>you can max all 4 factions in <16h with combat missions
not bad desu

>>1877098
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqiBCv9kPwQ
This has been a fun trick to speed things up. Only had two failures so far. One was due to a crash when I got into the Caterpillar, and the other was because I selected the wrong seat in the Hercules. The sitting animations are so damn slow!

ella from arccorp is my wifi

>Message of the day
>Monday) Current goals for the week
>- We are currently building a new 4.2.1 LIVE client/DGS hotfix with fixes for stacked boxes on freight elevators.
>- We are working on further updates for 4.3 with the goal of starting up Evocati publishes sometime in the next couple of days (not today)

kek they are not even looking at bricked FEs at outposts

>hurricane heavy bomber varriant where they remove the turret add 2 s3's to the underwing were the missiles currently are and add 3 s7 missiles in an internal bay
no bed tho, that shit's for fags

>@Wakapedia-CIG
>We are about to open the HOTFIX channel with CL 10007308 for stack cargo fix testing. This will require both server and client to work and we have been scaling out the latest hotfix onto LIVE

well you can stack boxes now but who the fuck cares when combat missions are better?
rip niggas who havent completed the intro missions though, because outpost FEs are all fucked

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/3/thread/elevator-overloaded-fix
>Freight elevator's terminal UI is broken. When people select cargo crates one-by-one, they add to the current elevator load (in the upper left corner, e.g. "8/120"). When they unselect crates one-by-one, they subtract from that variable. Sounds fine, right? Isn't. You might see the current load as 0 each time you open the terminal, but that's only presentation layer. The way I see it, the real value that's stored on the server never resets to zero.
is this peak jeet vibe coding

>>1878740
Manchester's finest.

what missions spawn hornets mk2? trying to get the ball turret

Aegis Dynamics is Best Dynamics

Bros, just give us the option to put blades in mannable turrets.

game doesnt even work, what are you doing retards

>>1880290
what do you mean? piracy gameplay is at an all time high, which means traders/haulers are also at an all time high

me escaping pyro after stealing a ball turret from some niggas at exec

bri'ish paypole don't know to to log thay game

uhh bros?

>>1880698
thats the ETA for 4.3

how much of a disaster will SQ42 be?

>>1880877
It'll be a mediocre-at-worst space opera but the sales will be abysmal since most people who might be interested it already own it one way or another.

>>1880877
idk but I'm expecting the same price tag as gta6

>>1880877
Unless they count all the people who already bought it as "sells" then its numbers will not impress. Imagine if GTA VI allowed early access for 10+ years and then released. Almost everyone who would be interested in it has already purchased it.

>>1880877
It'll probably be just barely worth the effort of pirating it

thank god I finished hurston first, bored roleplaying faggots sit at multiple OMs 24/7

>>1880877
it's gona end up being a movie "game", but a cool one tho, i'm just salivating at the little boat section they showed

>>1881052
If they don't have fishing I'm not playing.

>>1881052
my hope/expectation is a campaign somewhere between call of duty and mass effect as far as freedom, openness of the world and downtime to do stuff other than combat. likely wing commander style free roam on your home ship advancing conversations, then fly out for a mission or two and repeat. probably a change up in home ship or two, moving up from idris to bengal at some point. mayyyybe even a port section or two where we can roam some city hubs and fool around on shore leave.

gotta love it when they bring back the classics

>>1881388
What the fuck, normally they open up to a void but this one was a working elevator mimic. Looked totally fine until you committed.

At this point, the entire game is just fighting with elevators, isn't it?

Any tips on flying decoupled? Trying to get better at combat by grinding some event protect ship missions but I smash into something like 50% of the time.

>>1881525
if you're in an asteroid field, always apply a bit of forward and upward thrust

>>1881525
How I do decoupled with HOSAS
>bind decoupling to thumb on left joystick
>turn off toggle so it only decouples while binded button is pressed
>in fights constantly turning on and off depending on what I need to concentrate on the most
>utilize for staying in a larger moving ship's blind spot while matching velocity
>utilize in pvp for evasive maneuvering and for turning/pitching faster

Some notes unless things have changed since the last time the game was playable:
-Decoupled lets you pitch/turn faster
-Seamlessly switching between the two during fights let's you move less predictably
-Familiarize yourself with the ship HUD. There is a ship velocity indicator going in the ships forward direction and another one 180 degrees to the rear that you can see if you engage decoupled mode and turn to the rear
-Practice flying decoupled by manipulating the forward indicator where you want the the ship to go
-All 6DOF thrusts are necessary for flying decoupled if you want to "thread the needle" while flying
-Use space brakes or coupled mode to slow down or stop when landing

PROTIP: All of this is pointless though because the game is literally unplayable(read: unenjoyable) and absolutely sucks right now

>>1881525
It's only really useful if someone's chasing you and you need to maintain your velocity while shooting back at them.
If you know you're going in a straight line without any objects in front of you, decouple, turn around and start shooting at them.

>>1881705
t. worst pilot in this thread

>>1881705
is this satire?

>>1881708
>>1881716
You gonna samefag some more?

>>1881525
Build your 3D spacial awareness. I built mine through flying FPV quadcopters. You eventually just start auto mapping your surroundings so objects are always in your head. It's definitely harder in space due to the lack of ground, but it still helps.

>>1881730
Cirno is your only meaningful contribution to this thread.

>>1881705
TBQHFAIDMILISI(IFYMLN) this is a carebear take

>turns on decoupled mode
>teleports behind you
How did we get so cocky fighter bros

>>1881525
some people live in decoupled mode, but I think most of us have an easier time just toggling it on once in a while for maneuvers. just look before you do it. you have a vector indicator, always make sure it's not on a rock or a station and you won't hit anything

decupled is a crutch, you aren't actually max performing the jet there's a reason you will never blackout in decoupled with g-safe off.

>>1881897
I use it for catching players and doing high speed escape jumps. My PvP experience is limited however because most players want to chill in absolute safety. They'll sit in Grim Hex, run away, log off, or bait you into visiting their Polaris. It's lame.

>>1881948
it is lame but I just counter lame with lame, I sit in or just outside grimhex and wait for them to poke their noses out, it's free money. just wish they would let us track multiple bounties at a time, would be good to know who to prioritize when they hang out together.

>>1881633
Sound like you are playing Tachyon the Fringe.

>no MOTD
>all outpost FEs completely bricked
>slowtards can't finish intro missions
>no new hotfixes
>no patch
>no evo
it is truly over

>>1881984
I choked on my food over that clip! So many missiles!

>>1882370
those are Rattlers. each missile splits into a dozen micromissiles. they're pretty cool. wish they would make more unique shit like that

>>1882374
I pack a few of them myself. It's a shame 0-3 of them land most of the time.

>>1882378
yeah but that's just missiles right now. locks are super tenuous and the targeting computer literally lies to you. with rattlers you've got saturation at least. missile shotgun.

>>1882122
I waned you about becoming british bro, I warned you.

>>1881984
What is this high tier PVP shit

fuckin lmao

Give us EVEN MORE PvP please!
Do it! and while you are at it remove security forces too! Let us murder everybody and everything everywhere! Lets drive every single PvE-Player away from the Game by Murdering them till the last spark of their soul dies and they quit.
would really like to see if the Game can survive on the Money the PvPers or wannabe-PvPers spend when half or more (i think its more cause the wannabe-PvPers will leave too without easy targets to kill) of the active Spenders falls away.

>>1882968
Your wish will be granted

>>1882973
It's ogre man. This game is on life support. SQ42 will flop next year and then we'll see the PU fizzle out 2-3 years after that.

attention retard, I healed through it lmao

>>1883131
this looks so much better than that piece of shit helmet they gave us for the event. they should have just made branded morozov sets

>(Thursday) Goals by end of week
>- We are currently working on further hotfixes for missing reward issues on LIVE from the event as well as freight elevator updates.
>- We are working to have a 4.3 PTU build ready for Friday. Goal is to initially roll it out to Evocati for a couple hours and then wider audience shortly after for the weekend.

>>1883302
>evocati for a couple hours
for them to have this kind of confidence this has to be their least ambitious patch yet

>>1883314
These patches are finished 1-2 months ahead of time, 4.4 is finished and 4.5 is likely nearly nearly finished too. It's part of why they are always so reluctant to hotfix anything on live because those personnel are already tasked and that patch is already irrelevant internally. It's also why bugs that do get fixed always show back up because their version control sucks.

>>1883314
Look at the ""roadmap"", there's literally nothing in it.
Oh wow dynamic snow how ambitious.

>>1883348
did they remove the onyx facility now too?

>>1883357
i think they just changed the wording describing it and carebears lost their shit

>>1883376
that's been my conclusion as well. babbies can't handle open development and seethe when things that are still very much in dev get tweaked. but I was under the impression the facilities were still in but the 'co-op zone' idea was scrapped or delayed.

ISC today?

>>1883447
isc about what?

>>1883458
these niggers are supposed to do one weekly, it's jared's entire job. just pick something. they're trying to put up a new evo patch this week.

>>1883464
nah he only does them occasionally now, its been like 4 of them in 7 months

>>1882968
>Murder, grief, murderhobo
You are a turbo sperg who should probably stick to single player games instead of a mmo.
Little bitch

>>1883467
wasn't this supposed to be the one thing subscriber's money was going towards?

>>1883504
pvp'ers are poor, see russians

>>1883504
>responding to spectrum copypaste
you are not very smart

worst timed video I've ever seen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmaHhLFCyGs

>they're adding nameplates back
time to do as much anonymous evil as you can in 4.2.1

>>1881708
I actually expected less bobs in 4chan, but it's the same energy as the subreddit while being less helpful

Anyone want to team up in my Idris and be a criminal band for the night? Bounty hunters love a good fight.

>>1884079
buzz just told me you have small schmeckle, I don't know what that means but you have one apparently

>>1884101
I don't give a fuck about buzz. This is a fucking PvE Bob box stacker thread
Shitty takes like:
>I flop in and out of coupled randomly to be unpredictable

>>1884143
>my opinion matters!!!

>>1884143
I know ur a troon femboy wannabe, you're also not good at pvp

>we can do auto convergence on your laser pointer
>but not on your $20,000 ship guns, sorry

>>1884165
What is gameplay

>>1884176
gameplay is when you've got a pip on your target but the bullets sail past on either side because the fucking guns are at the wingtips

>>1884165
i feel like that """""auto convergence"""""" is just bad code that resulted in a not so bad thing

>>1884244
you're probably right, they finally gave in on a bunch of the stuff to do with guns when their commitment to "not faking anything" resulted in unusable pieces of shit. most likely the laser is just hardcoded to be on point of aim at all times and the third person is just a secondary effect

>>1884079
>bobs
At least its not "rate my humble fleet" like in concierge cerkel jherk forums and caht.
>same energy as the subreddit while being less helpful
the subreddit is only "helpful" to the public because the censorious mods are likely not the same people as those who spitroast the Nightriger-CIG account pretending to be one $25k whale dude from some old moderator team who hates everybody because not properly worshipful of cult that none are allowed to speak "uncomfortably" about, on their strange tism circlejerk board.

they also do not share ship models easily anymore, 4chan is only hope for that, I need to post my collection of links sometime...

4chan is the only honest take right now, on star citizen.

>>1884275
4chan has the problem of being filled with spergs that coordinate hate campaigns against certain games via discord channels. Star Citizen was one of them until they were bored.

>>1884393
Do those games not deserve the hate?
Does Star Citizen not deserve hate?

>>1884393
As long as they take it to Discord, I'll never witness it. Fuck that troon honeypot.

>>1884446
This, discord killed real forums.

any new ships leak that isn't "we took a ship, made it "punch above its weight", tripled the price and shat out this lowest of effort png on the pledge store ?"

>>1884512
They've been teasing the Apollo, but I don't have high hopes for it being worth anything until proper medical gameplay, ship armor, and drones are released. Until then, it's just a pretty, oversized Cutlass Red.

>>1884555
Since its a pointless ship and every ship needs to be the best ship in class. They will either give it massive respawn range or survivability or guns.
Has to be best at something. Mark my words.

>>1884143
bro is 100% CLAMPED. Newsflash, everyone can see your 5 o clock shadow

>Message of the day
>2 minutes ago
>(Frjádagr) We are currently putting together a 4.3 build for a potential Evocati release later today with the goal to go to all waves for the weekend shortly after.
FE bros.............

>>1884410
Plenty of good games have been ignored and/or had support destroyed because /v/ negatively influenced public opinion through lies and targeted raids. SC almost became a victim of this between 2013-2015.

>>1885148
Don't care already got tier 5 all a week ago.

>>1884393
>hate campaigns against certain games via discord channels
fortunately i avoid the use of the unconscionably proprietary service called shitcord.

>>1884410
>Does Star Citizen not deserve hate?
Any ridicule that Star Citizen and it's people receive, is deserved.

I only stick around and pay attention because I thought this was a nice impossible dream way back in the mid 2010s and i just never refunded.

I think CIG/RSI/Roberts hired Derek Smart for anti-propaganda duty.

>>1884446
>As long as they take it to Discord, I'll never witness it. Fuck that troon honeypot.
its just IRC and ICQ glued together with modern acronyms and cloud and self-expiring security certificates that will fail into a ""safe"" (non-functioning) state.
Troons also ripped off "Dark City: Director's Cut" when they made "The Matrix"... and got lucky to have Reeves to pay off their VFX people when the wack brothers ripped off their CGI/VFX people after they made "The Matrix".

>>1884453
>This, discord killed real forums.
real forums might return someday. just look at fangames centered around "sonic the hedgehog"... crazy nerds can find a way, and maybe they will find ways to have their art last longer, like Blake of Blake's Sanctum for cataloging old classic PC Games.

The pronouns and identity political fetishism have wasted the productive years of many people who could have built so much more, with the misguided smarts that they have.

>>1885183
>SC almost became a victim of this between 2013-2015.
You are describing the exact smear campaign that allowed me to notice Star Citizen was more than an arena dogfighter like "Xwing Vs Tie Fighter" or "Freespace 2"--still around after all these years btw...

I was "meh" until the 2013--2015 era, my first ship did not even have LTI, and I still have that fake digital spaceship.

>>1884667
>muh SCUs
Anyone new, do not take advice from this thread. Get in one of the PvP discords. Start with JW's Grimhex and go from there.

>>1885385
Is this AI?

>>1885385
>shitcord shill
If your shitcord had any info, then you should publish it on a free web page hosting service like Neocities, so normal people can read it without shitcord cult grooming.

>>1885492
>Is this AI?
In some likleyhood, yes likely a chatbot. avoid trusting the silly chatbots that are worshipped as god-emperor ""A.I."" ([Computer]-Augmented Idiocy)
https://www.lewrockwell.com/political-theatre/party-in-the-c-i-a/

>>1885385
>grooming players into discords
What's the JW stand for.. "Just weiners"?

>>1885602
>What's the JW stand for.. "Just weiners"?
Well, that is a horrible gotcha, because some troons take enough dysphoria injections that they knife off their testicles and keep the phallus, and it is horrifying.

JW...
Joss Whedon Reavers, yes?

>>1885629
if they kept all their biological components mounted, it would be silly and funny instead of horrifying.

>>1871732
I can get this (the gilly one) but it auto-fails once I get to the obj.

can some whaletard post when 4.3 evosharti is up pls

>>1885571
It's not about info. There's plenty of videos available. It's about individual feedback and competent pvp pilots to practice with
>targeted individual poster
I see

>>1884631
When it's got all of it's functions, it'll be THE rescue ship. Until then, it'll suck. Might as well get a medical Terrapin.

>>1886370
Hmmm, in light of this we have decided that med bed tier actually does matter. Only tier 1 can respawn and you have to buy it as a module for $60+tip unless you have a Medivac, module available through wikelow for 59 pure vanduul asshurts 3 months from now

>>1881525
what I do is get the bogies to chase me then just fly away from the debris field

>>1886270
>t. chronic online no lifer interpreting original request for tips on newtonian flight as requests for sweat lord pvp tips on how to be number 1 on arena commander in a game that progressively gets shittier and shittier flight mechanics

The burden of your life decisions and fruitless pursuits is your own punishment, fren

>>1881525
I take back everything I said, just use it to turn around while flying backwards and shoot guys coming at you like the other guy said.

>sandi is head of marketing again
It's over bros

whats the best way to farm auec in my lil avenger titan? i dont need that much i just want to buy a ship with a bit more interior space

>>1886697
Honestly, begging for aUEC in chat and saying you will put it to mischief.

>wake up
>no ptr
big shite

>>1886697
Ask in global if someone is willing to donate a reclaimer. Alternatively you can ask for anything that can fit in your instanced hangar and leave it on the deck to re-use it. I loan a buddy of mine my F8C and he just drops it off in his instanced hangar before logging off. There's a vast amount of people willing to hand you a nicer ship if you just fly to them. For larger ones there's no way to store save them unless you have a hangar that matches their size.

>>1886954
whats auec/h with a reclaimer atm?

>>1886956
Depends on how fast you can locate ships. If there was nothing but scraping and no travel, that thing would do like 3k auec per second.

>>1886994
There's plenty of ships piled up around all the freight elevators right now, can those be safely salvaged without crime rating? (Without first having to shut down comm arrays)

>>1887041
You think CIG would allow some sort of dynamism and player interaction in their gated theme park?
Dont't be silly anon.

>>1886956
1.2-1.5m, take unverified Starfarer and Hammerhead cleanup contracts and just jump in, mulch the ship, print boxes and throw them around in the fabrication room, then jump to your next contract. You get paid 30-40k each contract plus 470k+ worth of CM from the mulch. Usually I throw 4 ships worth of mats into the fab room and eat a ship on the way out to fill the buffer.

Never let an fucking frog do an American's job, Todd Pappy would have never in a trillion years let it get this bad.

>>1886620
I'll effortpost for you in a bit if you genuinely want tips

>>1887041
It's all in armistice and most of them have their shields on.

I want to murder that bastard Wikelo.
Xenothreat was RIGHT.
Get this Banu OUT of UEE space, he(?) delights in torturing humans with unreasonably demanding tasks. No doubt reaping a 900% profit from the outrageous "requirements". You mean to tell me Wikelo NEEDS an entire adult Valakkar fang on top of pearls, baby fangs and kopion horns to change the PAINT JOB ON A FUCKING GUN? Ridiculous. I want to peel every fold of alien skin off Wikelo's greedy alien face and make him paint a fucking multi tool with it before ending that terrible alien's "life" for good.

>>1883508
You will see the subscriber's money put to work in the S42 documentary releasing one day before the game does.

>>1887166
>You think CIG would allow some sort of dynamism
Apparently you can't used mine minerals to fulfill the resource drive starter missions.

>>1889682
That was the very first thing I tried when everything was broken. Instant disappointment.

>>1889849
>>1889682
Saw someone selling mission cargo for 20k per scu today. Got a lot of pushback but I saw people caving and haggling down to 15k per scu.

>>1889899
Considering how much the starting contract pays (101k?), that really isn't much, and it opens the gate to so much more.
Had I realized that's what they were trying to sale I would've went for it and saved myself hours of time trying different regions, elevators, and mining/refining.

Fucking ridiculous the timed event is so fucking broken. Has CIG comment on the situation at all yet?

>>1889933
They have, but the main gripe the community has is that they went ahead with this event, despite the fact that outpost freight elevators have been fucked since their inception last year. The worst part is I have no clue if they even knew how bad those freight elevators are, seeing as CIG seems to base their design and balancing decisions on the experience of an internal playtest.

>>1889939
Its literally a stress test with a participation reward, they know the elevators break and they're trying to pin down whats causing it and how they can fix it without a server restart.

>>1890134
I know everyone likes the
>they're testing guize I swer this is all just a stress test we're testers teehee
shit, but CIG quite literally does not have the logging to record anything this could possibly expose. Traces have to be run manually by CIG employees. The only reason they do these is so they can sell the usage numbers as commercial viability to private investors.

>>1890134
Unless you are on the development team, neither you, I, nor anyone else in the community would know that for a fact. It may or may not be their intention with this event, but who can be surprised that CIG would run an event with limited-time rewards alongside their supposed "stress test" of a core mechanic (that, again, has been broken for a year straight) and failing communication on the most basic level?

>>1890144
Right so if that was the case a good way to do that is to manipulate the entire player base into doing the event as much as possible so it doesnt matter where the devs set up to sit and watch it break, someone will come along and fuck it up quickly.
>>1890156
Why would they communicate how incompetent their spaghetti code is that they can't figure out whats causing the failures, no shit they want to keep quiet on it while they sell another batch of $1500 idris

>>1886697
if you're good at space combat, do training gauntlet #5 or #6

>Message of the day
>24 minutes ago
>(Sunnudagr) A new 4.3 PTU build is now available for all backers! VERSION 4.3.0-PTU.10029568

>>1890168
They're using the show, don't tell method.

Why can I not look size 3 components from ships? I understand not letting a multitool tractor beam lift them, but a maxlift too? Ridiculous.
>only vehicles can move them
You can not get an atls into the top deck of a herc, or most ships with size 3 components. How do engineers even get these things in there? Should size 3 components come in pieces? Fuck this is annoying, how do I get a grade a component for my Corsair?

>>1891426
According to the beard guy on the vehicle content team S3 and larger components require a shipyard to replace, they aren't meant to be replaced with hand tools they have to cut into the hull to get them in and out.

>>1891458
Haha wow that fucking sucks.
So I'm stuck with executive hangars for any Grade A size 3 component I might need? Or spending more credits than an entire ship costs to trade with a player?

>>1891749
Try unlocking a ship with physicalized components and self-destructing it.
I remember this allowed you to tractor out components a few patches ago. I'm not sure if that still works.
If not, then yeah, you're stuck trading with a player

>>1891763
I sort of tried that with a herc today but shot it to full death instead of self destructing. So I'l try that if I find a similarly large vehicle tonight.

>>1889682
>>1889849
Intro hauling mission workaround for the masochistic anons still hopping servers.
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/3/thread/resource-drive-initial-mission-workaround

People said I was crazy for rushing, thank God I finished this garbage 2 weeks ago.

I can't see anything nignog, why is everything so dark?

>Message of the day
>15 minutes ago
>(Mánadagr) Our plans for today are to keep the current 4.3 PTU build active while we action on the feedback from the weekend to have a more impactful PTU release on Tuesday.
what freight elevators?

>>1892867
From what I've heard, 4.3 has a pile of fixes for elevators. No telling if they'll backport any of them for the event.

>>1892896
how would you know if any of the fixes work

>>1892906
I wouldn't. I only heard and haven't actually tried the early test.

>>1892908
No I mean to really test if fixes do anything, you must smash the elevators for a few days non stop.
Doubt anyone on PTU would bother with it.

>>1892913
Guess we'll find out next time they're dumb enough to stress test the elevators.

when?

>>1892867
why do they do this gay fantasy naming for days of the week? are those supposed to be the in-universe days now? why are they all norse pagan themed? or is this just (ye another) example of the mods being given carte blanche to be cringey retards with zero oversight

>>1894584
it's this tranny doing it, waka just posts the update like a normal human

>>1894593
so the latter then

>7:3 server configuration
heh i knew it was gunna happen the instant we got Hathor PTU rerun on the first day of open ptu over snow

>>1895121
>7:3
what does it mean

>>1895121
tantalizing post. almost makes sense, but not quite.

>>1895158
Typical server configuration is 5:5 DGS nodes(servers) 5 for Stanton, 5 for Pyro. They are using the same unbalanced setup as they used for Hathor release now but inverted with 7 for Stanton and 3 for Pyro.

Long short expect Pyro to run like ass if they go to live with this config, but they probably need to because they get non-stop server errors if they put all the weight on one DGS.

>>1895231
With Pyro losing its new factor, and new content popping up in Stanton, this seems fine. I don't figure Pyro needs more than 3. About the only major Pyro load is from worm farmers.

>>1895231
IT-let here, why are they limited to ten. why can't we have enough nodes or whatever for everything to fucking work, like every other MMO in existence.

>>1895486
Throwing more servers at it costs more money and doesn't solve shit. 10 per shard has been fine for the most part since 4.0 dropped. The issues we face have mostly to do with legacy systems (elevators, atc) not playing nice with servers meshing.

>>1895500
how can it possibly not solve shit. they have almost a billion dollars and have slashed their operating costs recently shuttering their most expensive and useless studio

>>1895508
I hate to break it to you, but they don't have almost a billion. They have indeed raised that much from backers/private investors over SC's lifetime, but it's not like they haven't spent any of it since the Kickstarter. Infact, they are burning through cash as fast as they can make it due to how mismanaged, bloated, and long these 2 projects have taken, plus, running a live service 24/7. 2023 financials had them down 20 million, and their marketing approach has gotten noticeably more aggressive since 2024. Still not sure why or how you think throwing more servers at the game will solve everything if it hasn't yet already, lol.

>>1895508
Amazon has spent several hundred million USD on Amazon Prime Gaming, it was created as a direct storefront competitor to Steam and literally nobody knew this until the CEO said it during a Q&A years after it launched. Marvel spent $374m on the 'The Marvels' film in production costs alone, not even counting the advertising costs. Do not begin to underestimate just how quickly a company can blow through money with literally nothing being done.

>loots drug from bunker
>"Risky mission Item"
>cannot sell anywhere

>>1896566
ghex or the scrapyards?

>>1896566
as in can't sell at the usual drug places? one of the lagrange stations also has a no questions asked terminal hidden in a dead end corridor that takes that kind of thing

I bought the golem pack for my starter. How stupid/fucked am I?

>>1897080
could have certainly done worse

>>1897080
You can always CCU it to something else for the difference in price like say upgrading to the 325a which is just a $10 difference.

>>1897080
mining is comfy and kinda lucrative desu

>>1897080
Retarded if mining wasn't what you wanted to do in the game, otherwise, go nuts.

>>1897157
I get why they changed them but good god do the old 300 series look better than the nu300s

>>1897175
>not mining in the golem to buy a c2 or catapillar to serve as your mothership/mining pod storage facility
dyem?

>>1897272
I'd probably do this if quant didn't blow up after 30 minutes.

>>1897272
can prospector fit into c2?

>>1897398
いいえ

Subaru's mind is in the gutter and she's trying to gaslight ChiOka...

>>1897398
Doubtful. People have said that even the Arrow has trouble fitting in landing mode. The Prospector isn't the most compact of vehicles.

>>1897080
should have got a prospector but not the worst. if you want to mine and don't know about the Aaron halo you should probably look that up, but it's probably a bit much for your golem anyway.

>>1897930
If I'm not mistaken, the Golem can be equipped with the same mining capabilities, but minus the ore bag trick. Outside of that, it lacks the mini hab.

>>1897988
>Golem can be equipped with the same mining capabilities
mining laser is bespoke

>>1897995
Ah, somehow I got it in my head it was swappable. At least it'll take modules and is relatively powerful.

>>1897995
it's on par with the helix at least. anything you can mine in a prospector you can mine in a golem

>>1898029
Granted, you might need more mining gadgets to compensate for more resistance.

>>1894584
>old Norse names
When they go to English for days of the week, the patch is arriving within a week.

>>1898732
it's frigidaire my dudes

>>1898732
clearest CIG communication

>>1899349
love this game's wacky explosions I hope they never tone them down
(they already removed them from the nade launcher)

Hey are comm arrays just fucking broken? I shut them down and the status doesn't change

>>1902528
Shit's wiggy for sure, last night I dropped in on a pad that should have armistice and I was getting lit up, ran off and came back with a fighter and lo and behold armistice was back. Might just be really slow to register

>>1902528
Have heard that sometimes you need to restart them before hacking to actually make it stick. More busted nonsense. It's actually a struggle to think of anything that just works all the time, aside from the store of course.

>>1902614
>on a pad that should have armistice and I was getting lit up
I think there is some fuckery going with Idris's insane range.
My Starfarer got 2-3 shot while the comms were up, not a peep from the usual CS notification. Must've been the rail gun.
Had also been hearing Idris's reaching into armistice zones from extreme distances outside of it.

>>1902956
that may be but I specifically looked and saw that there was no armistice coverage while I was on the pad because I wasn't sure if there should be at this location and there were hostiles above it. the symbol appeared on my second run

Was thinking about upgrading my QI to an MX but everyones saying it doesn't have a bed so it sucks.
But... do beds even matter anymore? Feels like CIG are moving away from bed logging and sleeping in a bed will give you buffs in the future.
Is it really that big a deal?
There's only going to be around 5 systems and you'll never be so far from a station where you can land and sleep/eat.
Are beds/amenities really that important other than for roleplay?

>>1903456
>But... do beds even matter anymore? Feels like CIG are moving away from bed logging and sleeping in a bed will give you buffs in the future.
That is exactly what they are doing, actually. CIG is moving away from their original idea with bedlogging, and may only serve as buff providers instead of a core logout mechanic, as talked about here by one of the leads: https://youtu.be/nyl6SquV4rY?t=3182

I feel it is for the best that they are moving away from having beds be the mechanism that allows you to log back in exactly where you left off (especially in a game that does a very poor job respecting your time); therefore, the lack of beds in the MX is not a disadvantage. The only real deciding factor in which JPEG you wish to get is whether its looks appeals to you or not. Balancing, on the other hand, is and always will be volatile and should never be a deciding factor, despite the fact that CIG's intent makes it apparent that the MX will be the tankiest and the most difficult to handle out of the 3 Guardians, while also having a bigger cross section due to its larger hull.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0rjaxR0ufg
SEX

>>1903906
oh look, new best-in-class fighter.

Or it would be if ballistics were not absolutely useless.

If I use my buyback token and use real money, will it make the ship giftable? I want to give a my fury and herald to my younger brother since he enjoys fast little ships. Figured it'd be a cool birthday present since he's been enjoying just flying around.

>>1903918
You can't gift credit ships iirc

>>1903918
buying back with real money doesn't require a token that's only for store credit buybacks. if it's all real money then it's giftable

>>1903924
Ah alright. If it's not on store I'll just check out grey market and send to his account then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0rjaxR0ufg

Um Origin sissies... our response?

>>1903934
uh...
>weapon deployment animation is kind of cartoonish
>the clock has 36 tick marks instead of 40 like a real clock so it can't be used to tell time

>>1903906
Looks shit. Completely removed from every other ship in the game. Looks like it's some knock off star wars garbage. Yuck.

>>1903945
>weapon deployment animation is kind of cartoonish
I thought I was the only one who noticed the guns wobbling whenever deployed.

>>1903945
>can't be used to tell time
what time would it tell anyway, unless it's synched to your computer clock any time it would tell would be meaningless

>>1904058
The guy in the video says it tells server time.

>>1903934
>made for sharvenger1
does it punch above its weight though

>>1871638 (OP)
Fully playable citizen game just released, it has all the functioning game mechanics that already work 99% in Star Citizen, This working release is called "STORE Citizen".

https://www.store-citizen.com

In the game, you are invited to make posts on reddick, dickscord, and autismspectrum.

>>1904309
This steals your Facebook login token bwos don't click it

>>1886270
>It's about individual feedback and competent pvp pilots to practice with
you hope for that but everyone who comes back from shitcord says its all trannies or groomers or biden lovers or trump lovers.

>>1886270
>targeted individual poster
>I see
Could you elaborate?

>>1886620
this post was funny but meaningless to me, i think this is another anon.

>>1904311
>This steals your Facebook login token bwos don't click it
Who even uses facefuck anymore? It's just a CIA honeypot for people who love to look at pictures of children.

That said, people willing to read these words likely already have a non-cucked adblocker and already disabled their windows spyware and Copilot spyAI, to allow for that extra 5--10 FPS boost in the game.

https://ublockorigin.com/

>>1904239
2x S4 is less than Talon, but im sure this ship will be the best dogfighter in the game.
Right now people are bitching about the bespoke weapons, but only because they are ballistics and ballistics suck ass.

>>1904323
>It's just a CIA honeypot for people who love to look at pictures of children.
That's /b/.

>>1904339
>That's /b/.
I think there might be more than one such place on the public internet.

Anyway, to restate the saaarly needful, STORE Citizen got released free, and it is playable and more bug-free than star citizen.

https://www.store-citizen.com

Obviously all people I like should use an adblocker for the occasional "bad" web page that gets taken down for token-stealer-scripts and viruses and spy-ads.

there are people that are really still cargo cucking when they could be doing shit that's actually fun and more efficient

>>1904327
It also looks like a chrome turd. But I'm sure starwars faggot losers are happy.

is SC stable and relatively bug-free in the year of stability and bug-fixing?

Are the ground contracts also all broken? I took a few weeks off this shit show when I saw hoe bad it was the first day. Came back and of course literally nothing has been fixed. I'm not even bothering with the normal cargo runs, but now it seems like the ground recovery contracts are all broken for me. I tried one on the first day and it worked, but now they all wont complete and bug out. Do I just have bad luck?

>>1904711
>immediately loses all momentum when jumping out of a ship
nice immersion

PUT IT IN THE FUCKING STORE ALREADY
GOD
WHY WOULD YOU RELEASE A MARKETING VIDEO OF A NEW SHIP AND NOT SELL IT AT THE SAME TIME

>>1905201
this has been a longstanding issue or perhaps design choice (hard to tell when they make so many bafflingly bad design decisions and also break everything all the time) but there does appear to be inherited momentum these days in certain situations. it's not close to 100% but it is convenient. I do wish this game were a lot more hard sim but we just have to cope with the fact the man at the helm is a hollywood producer and a lot of sacrifices are going to be made for the sake of convention and cinematics.

>>1905052
compared to a year ago, yes, it feels amazingly competent and playable. compared to any other game on the market, lol no

aaaaaiiiieee

>>1905379
are there not enough players? I see people or at least dead ships at every out of the way outpost I go to now. how much congestion are they looking for here? can SOME places be empty and abandoned once in a while?

>>1905379
>increase player cap to 2500
>hold events that require people to visit areas designed to only accommodate 2 or 3 people at a time
it wouldn't sound so stupid if it didn't actually happen

>>1905421
on the bright side the outrage has forced them to expand the locations and finally make use of these unique locations they scattered around like 6+ months ago and then totally forgot about without ever implementing any content at them.

It still pisses me off how ships can hover in mid air nose down no problems. Like gravity doesn't exist as long as your engines are on.

>>1905457
it doesn't we've long over come such trivialities, modern tech can already to it

>>1905379
where did he post it?

>>1905457
are you retarded? Why would your ship not be able to hover if every thruster can output >1G

>>1905479
>>1905547
Stop same fagging you stupid fucking nigger. Ships shouldn't be able to hover upside down, nose down, fucking ass up whatever. It's dumb. It looks dumb. Open your monkey mouth once more and I'll beat your fat lipped bitch face into a pulp got it faggot?

>>1905551
>samefag
not everyone that you disagree with is samefagging, retard.
Also
>it looks dumb
Midwits like you who get their sense of what's realistic from Hollywood are the reason why this game is so nonsensical

>>1905553
Nice try getting your fucking capitalization all mixed up after I spotted you, you black fucking gorilla cunt. Shut your fucking mouth you sheltered little wimp tranny. You know fucking nothing about realism sissy fuckface.

>>1905554
low IQ behavior

>>1905555
You can't even capitalize your sentences, lazy ass faggot.

>>1905558
kek, this is the most pathetic attempt at nitpicking to discredit someone I've ever seen.
Worse than arguing with a woman

>>1905561
You haven't gotten any pussy in 5 years you greasy ass spook. Your IQ is so fucking low you can't even press shift before typing a letter. Even worse you think ships hovering inches from the ground in complete stasis is somehow realistic. Hopefully you get your ass euthanized in a car crash and do the rest of us a favor.
Bitch.

>>1905563
You have autism, otherwise you wouldn't be so mad that someone doesn't think your opinion is valid.

>>1905567
You don't need to use a comma there you stupid low IQ nigg. Even when you're trying to act like a normal person you're so fucking dumb and retarded you can be spotted a mile away. Off yourself as soon as possible.

>>1905569
>everyone is the same person
Wrong autismo
The comma can be used there, it's appropriate to have one, you would know this if your reading level was above highschool level.

>>1905575
Ah yes. 4chanX. Which famously has a (you) command where you can remove your posts or add them. Took you a while to untag all your posts too didn't it you greasy old fucking spook.

>>1905577
>schizobabble and autismbabble intensify
Wew

>>1905582
>gets caught
>AGAIN
Hahahaha! Shameful display.

>>1905583
>it's totally impossible that more than one person would ever call me a retard

>>1905551
i'm the other guy, reality looks bad. just check out the shitty speculars on IRL oceans on an overwater flight, repetitive, intensity setting too high eugh.

>>1905130
Fairly certain they gave up on fixing it for 4.2.1. The event is extended to 4.3.

So glad an angry sperg has managed to derail the fuck out of this thread.

>>1906237
They never had any intention of fixing it if it was too hard, as an anon said earlier. CIG finishes patches a month or two in advance, the majority of the 30 devs working on SC already moved on to the next two patches. It's why they had to roll in what fixes they did for 4.2.1 into a later patch in the 4.3 PTU cycle because 4.3 didn't have those fixes when it went to PTU.

>>1905130
I've consistently been missing a handful of boxes so I can't complete, the nice thing that CIG finally figured out though is you still get credit for whatever you do turn in even if you don't get paid for the full job. so you miss out on the 100k or whatever the contract pays but the boxes you do send down the FE still count to your total for the tier rewards.

ok so they're copying the walkaround stuff from asobo this time, anything else new in msfs2024 that can be copied?

>>1905434
the only thing being forced is a new ship sale every 4 months

>>1905048
Can confirm as an N-1 Starfighter enjoyer I am very happy and am befinitely gonna pig for one of those.
I dont give a shit if its good or not it looks awesome.

>>1906429
did you notice the fin?

>>1906547
The fin is a microcosm of the dogshit aimless direction of the game at the moment.
One guy looked at the ship, thought it looked like a boat from one angle so added a huge fin that looks completely out of place for no reason at all and no one thought to stop them.

>>1906547
>>1906562
Man its fine he's just channeling hobbins

>>1906588
It looks like shit

Dear CIG
Why have you not posted the sale for that which everyone is drooling over.
Right now If the sale was Up I'd have already bought one, but in a week I will have though better of it and decided that I don't need one and I'll just get it in game later.

Why would you post a video of a clearly flight ready ship and not a sale, Even if its not gonna be out in game a for a bit.
My Hype level and inclination to actually impulse buying a $90 or w/e jpeg is declining by the second. Last Night I saw the video and IMMEDIATELY went looking for the sale.

You are shooting the hype load directly into the toilet bowl here.

>>1903934
Overdesigned slop.

Not feeling so good about the future of this game right now lads.

Should I sell my fleet/account and cut my losses?

>>1906720
>that measly "fleet"
No one will buy that shit anyway. Your best bet is to just wait it out until you either get a miracle game or a valuable lesson in trust and promises.

>>1906734
>that measly "fleet"
Are you trying to neg me for not spending even more? Lmao.

>>1906246
It's the same dude in every thread too. Unhinged and unoriginal insults everytime.

>>1906745
No he means it's dogshit because it doesn't have anything good.
People buy accounts because they have rare shit.

>>1906752
What if I sell it for $50 huh?

ok but what about that hot lesbian vehicle artist #1?

>>1906755
I'm sure that would work.

>>1906808
poor girl, they keep objectifying her to try and appeal to simps. trying to distract from whatever dogshit they are trying to sell this time.

>>1906720
You can liquidate your account for 50-60% of the total value of it at pretty much any point by melting and selling it all as store credit, 65-75% if you do it during specific times of the year. Alternatively if you built really good CCU chains(55% or higher savings) you can attempt to sell the ships individually for profit or a very minor loss. Unless you're 100% sure of completely washing your hands there's no particular rush to sell, especially since the gray market has been very consistent with store credit pricing for many years. You really don't have a lot tied up into the account (unless you bought the original concept for the corsair and liberator, in which case you'd actually probably make more selling those two rather than what you paid) so it may not even be worth the effort of selling except for dumping the Liberator specifically during release week when everyone wants the new shiny carrier and you can probably get a positive return on investment assuming you had a half-decent CCU chain into it.

>>1906720
if you have the posibility of selling individual ships, just sell whatever you can and keep the game package desu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjiq3XLOXag
>german name
>brutalist eagle logo
>classic car aesthetic
>ad denigrating 'progress'
has reddit moved on from calling hurston fascist to calling Kruger fascist yet

>>1907212
>>1907591
My game package is Bounty Hunter LTI from the Kickstarter. All I fucking wanted was Freelancer 2 with a multiplayer mode something like the Freelancer Discovery mod. I've been up and down with the game over the years but I've just about lost all faith with CIGs ability to deliver something worth playing. Every time I try to get into the game, if I'm lucky I get a couple decent sessions before encountering a game breaking bug that completely kills it for me. Best case scenario it's a never ending parade of minor jank you can learn to live with until you run into something that just fucking ruins it. I'd rather spend the $50 to buy a game I'll actually play at this point.

My total pledge is at $550 and I feel like a fucking moron for ever putting in another dollar after the Kickstarter, and being rushed by CIGs gay retards for this long. have ok CCU chains on the Corsair (24% savings) and Liberator (50% savings). I just want to get out before SQ42 drops as a pile of shit in 2029 and kills this dream off for good.

I got quite lucky last night. Found a spot in Chawla Beach that would instantly crash me upon login. Avatar wouldn't leave the spot, no matter how long I waited, so I was region locked. Thankfully, somebody incapacitated me and changed my position. Was able to backspace and gtfo. Fuck Pyro.

>>1908058
I had the same thing happen at a lagrange in stanton. I was sweating bullets over how much QT fuel I had left and made it there at 2%.
then I discovered that approaching the station caused a guaranteed CTD and I effectively couldn't leave or enter.

>>1907969
Can probably sell the corsair for ~$180 and the Liberator for $220-$300 as standalone LTI ships, assuming both have LTI and are tradable. Otherwise you just have to melt everything that can't and buy (or CCU an LTI ship to) an Ironclad Assault or M2 Hercules and sell it for ~$300-$340usd. Good luck anon

>>1908191
You can't gift credit ships, so he'd have to sell the entire account assuming none of those ships have LTI. And even if they do it'll be a struggle to get them sold at break-even anyway.

>>1907969
BMM is already clickable in a new 2D idle asteroid scrolling webgame called Store Citizen. Obviously use a non-chrome adblocker like uBlockOrigin because i am paranoid too, and avoid saving your login tokens in browsers on game computers, that is stoopid.

https://www.store-citizen.com/

>>1908214
We get it, you made your first idle clicker.
You don't have to post it a third time.

>>1908191
>>1908210
All 3 of my ships have LTI. If there's anything "rare" on my account, it's all the completely abandoned early backer rewards from the early days like tuning kits, manned maneuvering units, and dual-ammo gatling weapons that have lt been mentioned since.

>>1908222
I would love to claim false credit, but I just saw it before it got buried on my daily self-torture on reddit with their humble fleets and slop yt videos, and why no ship sale, and HAIRPOSTING in a game where your hair is secondary to your space helmet somehow holding atmosphere in the game world, and still somehow allows you to suffocate at the water store anyway.

RIP

https://old.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1mp24be/the_hair_team_nails_it_every_patch_43_ptu/

>>1908228
You can probably get break-even or even a profit on the lib. The other two ships are so common that it's probably not worth the effort to sell but you can give it a go.

>>1908252
It's already a 100% loss as far as I'm concerned, so anything at all is a net positive.

Jared makes an apology video.
>Starts by lying.

Great look CIG

>$100 for Kruger
lol fuck off

>>1908555
think of the vehicle artist 1

>>1908555
I would rather spend that money on fireworks

No 4.3 tonight

>>1908210
You can gift credit ships, you buy an Aurora ES with real money ($20) and then CCU it as high as you can with your available store credit and then you can gift that.

>>1908228
the Bounty Hunter package your 325a was CCU'd from goes for $130-$150 last I checked so there's some money to be made there
If that Liberator is built off a referral reward (which it looks like it is) then you can't sell or melt that and you're 100% SoL, so you should check to see if the Exchange or Gift option is in your hangar . You might be able to contact support and request they revert it back to the original reward and add the money put into it as store credit, sometimes they honor that request but usually they don't.
Also that Corsair is pretty valuable because it's built off the Original Concept Raft it looks like, which by itself goes for $150-$180 last I checked, potentially even higher since the RAFT went from zero to hero with the massive buffs it got so you might be able to sell that for ~$200-$220

>>1908555
Meteor was $260 while the design it was cloned from (Mantis) is $150 lmao.

>>1909056
>you buy an Aurora ES with real money ($20) and then CCU it as high as you can with your available store credit
Absolutely worthless advice for someone who clearly does not want to spend more money, and won't be able to CCU to much of anything.

>>1908555
>>1908596
DO IT FOR HER

>>1909288
In this specific case you are correct as there's only $~250 in store credit and all the shit he has is either giftable already or cannot be melted at all but some people have spent several hundred before deciding to quit and have been melting stuff down to turn it into other ships which would render the ships untradable so your choice is to either leave hundreds of dollars in nontransferable store credit on your account and attempt to sell the account (which will never happen unless you have highly sought after extremely rare items that can't be traded), or you melt everything that can't be gifted and use that money on a ship/vehicle you already own that is giftable by buying the most expensive CCU upgrade and selling that. Or spend $20 on an Aurora if you have nothing that's tradable and put all your store credit into a CCU for that and sell at half the value of the store credit and be done with everything within 10 minutes.

Spending $20 to get $300 back in your paypal account is far more preferable for someone who wants to cash out than simply leaving $600 worth of store credit in your account because you didn't want to spend the $20 cashout "fee".

>>1905583
buy and ad and then go back to faggit

>>1908228
you could hold onto the liberator and see if those jews at CIG increase its price like they have done for most big ships and sell it for more that you paid for

>>1910252
I've got a concept sale caterpillar I turned into a BiS hull, think I could get a good price if I marketed it as a trans rights caterpillar? Can't even side grade the fucker as it's only worth $200ish in store credit

Got a Hull-C for the first time. Flying this thing and actually doing missions successfully is like trying to play an accordion blindfolded

>>1910475
>Got a Hull-C for the first time. Flying this thing and actually doing missions successfully is like trying to play an accordion blindfolded
So, you're admitting it's possible?
Not every accordion player looks at the keys and chords.

>>1910740
And not every accordion player suffers desyncs and has their accordion fucking randomly explode.

>>1910755
>And not every accordion player suffers desyncs and has their accordion fucking randomly explode.
I did forget to add that part, thank you.

>>1910740
completing one mission in the thing is like spongebob blowing the perfect bubble, the amount of bug workarounds you have to adjust for is exhausting

>>1911106
>>1910761
on top of all that, sometimes the crash reporter actually sends an error report instead of always crashing, but only on the good "Windows 10" PC that gives a usually playable 25--30 FPS.

Ameliorated Edition increases FPS because less spyware always updating and installing all those new spyAI bots into your co-pilot shovelware, controlled by an evil old nerd who is somehow wanted for murder in India.

is live niggers

>can finally log off in the polaris in space without needing to land, repair it and take off again
Oh thank god

are FEs fixed in 4.3?

>>1911791
I just play it on Linux. Oddly enough, the crash reporter has never crashed for me.

is 4.3 buggy and broken?

>>1912968
Some people had their armory disappear and run into server errors.
I haven't had any problems.

>>1912968
Ship based-medbeds seemed to be fucked around the new theme park attraction, or they're just fucked in general

ASD geist armor variant is apparently the only one which covers your neck. Every other variant has a few inches of neck exposed, despite being EVA ready.

Found CIG's newest moneymaking scheme. I guess they're going for the Pipeline audience.

>>1911791
>>1912719
>I just play it on Linux. Oddly enough, the crash reporter has never crashed for me.
Likely just missing Windows bits since it is "ameliorated", or the error reporter is designed to be run on an administrator account, instead of a non-admin user who needs to type a UAC password each escalation, for normal linux-grade security.

The previous game I played in Linux was in the Malfador Machinations "Space Empires" game series, with WINE before there was "steam" killing off video game availability at american garage sales, a long time ago, before systemd, before the dark times, before wage life, before business life, before that indian pajeet obama and big mike tried to ruin the future with the help of their foreign assassin banker mafia pals who have too many coincidences.

>>1913535
>before systemd
Artix is nice. Poettering can huff exhaust fumes.

>>1913570
>Artix is nice. Poettering can huff exhaust fumes.
Yeah but I already got bored of Arch-based distributions, at least Manjaro AURs still have good old XCDRoast, good memories.

>>1913534
>Pipeline audience.
>pic text
Those are self-dysphoria injections that infect you with pronouns and political views that are hostile toward men and life itself.
Though I do enjoy seeing certain men participate in women's sports, I will "tag what I see" because no matter what words you "demand" me to use in reference to a random person, I will comply, for an arbitrary monetary fee, for the service of the performative observation of the desired religion.

Pay me to care.

Biological Men who are not mired in alphabet soup and neon vomit pronoun colors should be another protected class, along with all other "currently-unprotected" groups, so we can all finally say "no more!" to the entire concept of protected classes of people, including Biological Women.

I am waiting for the "live" servers to be worked on unto temporary grindfest stability... maybe another week before Pledge-storm Shipizen "live" gets vibe coded enough by the CIG junior pajeet chatbot that calls itself a "dev".

Pipeline "rights trans" striptease video drops when? I hope he has biological boobies.

>leave mothership in orbit and go down to hurston
>try to return to ship quantum marker
>it's moving at a rate of approximately 0.5Mm per second
>decide to bed log and relog to see it
>the mothership's marker has now disappeared from the map completely
I am genuinely gobsmacked at how not a SINGLE FUCKING FEATURE can work reliably for longer than a single patch.

>>1913530
Nevermind, I was wrong, the scarf doesn't cover the neck. You can still see the skin looking inside the helm area.
Also FYI for anybody that cares: the NPCs are mostly retarded right now. You can rush the spawn locations for the ASD geist armor with little trouble. Just be sure to get an ammo-economic firearm for the dozens of fucking dogs that spawn in the last area of research.

>>1913721
>I am genuinely gobsmacked at how not a SINGLE FUCKING FEATURE can work reliably for longer than a single patch.
Instead of the broken-by-procedure "issue council, there should be an actual bug racking system open for people who own the game, like jira for example.

The IC system is useless when actual bug regressions continue to get deleted repeatedly because that bug used up the ration of "one fix event per bug" from the vibecode bot already.

Hey Pipeline "rights trans" copypaster, if you are listening, leak us some good shit like:

IMPLEMENTING WORKING INDUSTRY-STANDARD BUG REPORT PROCESS/PROCEDURES FOR BACKERS/owners/players/pronouns/whatever.

If you hate JIRA or it touched you bad, use a single random open source "already invented" technology that "actually works" instead of "build it again next year" bait for the Not-Ben-Lesnick video beard man to shill more ships with.

I bet there is some corporate money laundering going on by this point.

Gotta carry on from earlier and mention the new playable store citizen game again even though I did not write it: https://www.store-citizen.com

>>1913747
btw if you just keep moving the dogs basically can't hurt you, I think it's because their animations have a wind up that misses if you move or you have to be standing still for them to even try, but yeah as long as you keep jogging they will never harm you. have tested this.

>highjack a hull c
>shoot the pilot
Alright now where the fuck do I sell this shit

>>1913973
Grim Hex using the station unload feature unique to it, assuming grim hex supports that. Otherwise you'll need someone to ferry you to grim hex to pay off CS and then go back to the ship and take it to a station where the auto-unload works.

>>1913982
Pyro stations allow you to sell while close to the pads underneath, but it wouldn't let me jump.
Just decided to suicide and use a caterpillar to load it manually.
Best solution is to probably just board ship, kill pilot, take it to a mothership, load it up and then ship it to grimhex

problem with looting a hull c stems from the fact it's all high volume, low value cargo

>>1914084
98,000SCU of waste.

>>1914084
>>1914100
It's cute you think they'll ever do any work with these POS ships. The hull line and the Starfarers are meme ships.

>>1914101
what gave you that impression schizo-chan?
they're bulk carriers in a universe of players who do not want to deal in bulk anything

>>1914100
imagine self destructing above a city with that bad boy all loaded up

I hope cig lets us turn grav plates into impromptu kinetic bombardment platforms.

Imagine bombarding a battlefield with 98,304 SCU worth of tungsten rods.

>>1914115
To my knowledge anything attached to a cargo grid is deleted when a ship self-destructs, though any loose objects are spat out.

>>1914120
I'll have more faith in them being able to do this once they figure out elevators and public transport

>>1914128
where have you been bro? cargo drops on death, tho only a small percent, about 10% i think

>>1914178
My recollection is that ships that are specifically self destructed drop no cargo that's attached to cargo grids but will drop off-grid cargo and items while ships hard death'd through damage will maintain any cargo on grid where the piece itself remains semi-intact as a burned out husk.

>>1914100
>>1914101
>these two messages have consecutive numbers despite having been posted two minutes apart
just how slow is this board?

>decide to try SC again after a few years
>grab my (c)hawk and grab a bounty
>qt at their location and they're just spinning around and not shooting
>try to end their misery but their shield in unbreakable
>can't qt out for some reasons, my drive wont spool
>try to kill myself, can't.
>try to crash my ship, it just bounces back off the asteroid
>lost in perdition as entropy will be the only thing that claims me (the server crashes)
Fucking hell, between this and elite this genre of game is just depressing.
One day we will get a good space sim bros.

>>1914268
this is not a space sim anymore, space is just what you travel through to get to the various pvp arenas

>>1914274
Planet tech was the 2nd largest monkeys paw the game could have gotten.
Now the ships have turned from the real character into glorified shuttle busses.

>>1914319
When I joined the game at 3.22, I was extremely surprised and confounded that Star Citizen is not really a space game.
And sure, it has ships and some bells and whistles and you can argue about the priorities in fixing the ships.
>But every single citcon since has been exclusively about planets and planetary activities.

>>1914251
they do drop but sadly it is a tiny fraction of the loaded, grided cargo,loose cargo does survive, trader bobs love self destructing to deny most of the loot

>>1914319
>ships as the real character
totally forgotten ideal. now they sell hard locked variants, which is kind of equivalent to a gacha game if you think about it

>CIG is having another 24(!!!) waves for Idris sales between Aug 26-30th
For what possible reason

>>1915426
because they refused to include it in the ship showdown claiming that "Giving everyone a free idris would break the servers" instead of just including a note saying that if it won, it wouldn't be given a free fly.

>>1914319
what was the first biggest monkey's paw

>>1915681
Chris Roberts announcing his return to making videgames.

>>1915687
>we don't do spaghetti code
correct, Indians never invented the noodle. hand slop curry code with roulette wheel revisions and no concept of commits is what SC has

>>1915687
Spaghetti is at least coherent and delicious. They're running overcooked pudding code.

>>1912714
pls respond

>>1915784
yeah

>>1915681
It getting enough funding for S42 to be more than a set of gilly's tier extra missions.

>>1915856
sq42 was always intended to be the 'main game' while the PU was going to be a freelancer style limited world which people could host their own servers of

>>1915871
I know it's bait but this gets me every time because it's so infuriatingly wrong.

>>1915687
he's right, they are doing 3rd worlder slop code, which is 1000x worse than spaghetti code

>>1916068
It wasn't bait in 2013, at least.
Here's a fun game: go through the crowdfunding goals and take a guess which ones won't be fulfilled.

>>1915784
NO
do NOT listen to this faggot
>>1915852
FEs are still fucking broken
they have the illusion of being fixed
but they WILL break eventually ESPECIALLY on mining outposts

>>1916301
The S42 part makes up a total of 7 whole sentences in the kickstarter.
Fuck off nigger.

>>1916409
You've arrived here from an alternate timeline anon.

>>1916503
Behold: the entirety of S42 in the kickstarter

I spent some time reading through the kickstarter and some these goals like
> CD of game soundtrack
are pretty dated.
I don't know of anybody who owns a CD player anymore.

>>1916519
The PU was in the 5m stretch goal. It was supposed to be a singleplayer game with coop and the ability to host your own modable servers.

>>1916409
what are you fuckin stupid? the vast majority of the kickstarter stretch goals wee added ad hoc and they just started making shit up as the money kept rolling in.

>13,000,000
>July 5, 2013
>Command and Control Center – Supervise the battle from the deck of your Idris-M or destroyer (class TBA) with advanced C&C packages that allow you to tie all of your ships together and assume central command from the 3rd seat.
Dunno if this implies controlling multiple AI ships from a single strategy room or giving players a holographic map of fleet battles.
>64,000,000
>November 28, 2014
>Pets – We have repair bots, we have fish… but we haven’t implemented a traditional pet system in Star Citizen yet. At $64,000,000, that changes. From Jones the Cat in Alien to the Battlestar Galactica’s Daggit, pets have a place onboard starships… and we want to give you that option in Star Citizen.
Alright that's kinda retarded

>>1916524
>>1916525
>Me when I lie through my teeth
https://web.archive.org/web/20121019000754/http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cig/star-citizen/

>>1916533
They had stretch goals on the official website too anon.
Also I'm retarded, the PU was the 3m stretch goal, not the 4m stretch goal.

Scratch what I said here >>1916537, apparently the stretch goal list is a complete clusterfuck. The ticker doesn't even go in order.
> $3,250,000
> $3,500,000
> $3,750,000
> $3,000,000
Jesus fuck CIG

>>1916537
I think we're arguing different sides of the same coin.
My point is that the cinematic wing-commander campaign was not the original pladge, but a space sim universe a-la freelancer or elite dangerous.
I understand that the MMO was not the original pitch.

>>1916519
got a smaller, more illegible screenshot my any chance?

>>1916543
Yeah I agree with you. I just think this conversation is totally retarded now given how much CIG has misorganized their own stretch goals.
Initially I was going off of a list on the fandom wiki, but the sources are all screwed and the official website is even less accurate.
I don't care anymore, this has been a waste of precious life.

natty chads ww@?

>>1915426
CIG is running out of money, this is at least 4.8 million dollars to their coffers.

I never imagined CIG to rig the fucking ship showdown.
>Yet somehow here we are.

Pretty easy to guess the rest:
>More expensive ship always wins, making polaris the winner.

>>1916618
The polaris has dogshit interior design, it won't.

>>1916631
what specifically does everyone hate about the polaris interior? I don't really follow whal ship development anymore but was it a surprise? it seemed like people didn't know the layout until it was actually in game, whereas back in the day we always had full interior maps long before the ship released.

>>1916634
It's not bad interior after they fixed the front elevator. Its just bloated shit like most ships in the game, the main problem in Polaris is that its optimized like shit. Always super laggy to play with it.

>Still going to win, doesn't matter if its good - its the most expensive.

>>1916631
What this guy doesn't seem to understand yet is that CIG is strapped for cash, they are doing EVERYTHING to get some more runway.

>>1916634
>half of the ceilings connect to walls and floors at a 75 degree angle, claustrophobic all throughout the ship
>crew quarters specifically has every cabin door tilted in towards the hallway, makes the entire place feel claustrophobic
>captain's quarters has a dividing room between his office and his bunk (why???)
>equipment bay has suit compartments that are angled the same way, losing tons of interior space
>recreational area sinks into the floor, looks like someone took a sub-floor den, fused it with a kitchenette and painted everything grey
>the only two other windows on the ship, aside from the bridge and turrets, looks into the depressing rec area instead of outer space
>has a pair of elevators from the hangar to the cargo bay that don't allow any appreciable amount of cargo to be moved, barely fits cargo pods
>despite the enormous amount of interior cargo space, and being a literal spaceship, still uses a fiddly little elevator that moves up 10~ ft for MANUALLY RELOADING torpedo racks like a fucking WW2 submariner
>static tractor beam in the cargo bay, would be better if it was on rails
>torpedo wells are open, could easily trip and die
>grav core is spinning wildly out in the open, OSHA workplace requirement dictate no ponytails
>engineering department is a clusterfuck of inaccessible recesses and moving parts, Chinese lathe factory -tier workplace hazards

>>1916648
that torpedo elevator is probably the dumbest piece of design in the entire game, literally what were they thinking

>>1916648
I'll concede that the torpedo elevator is pretty fucking dumb.
The rest is RSI, and like namesake - dumb. But standard.

>>1916408
Hell, I'm having more issues in the hangar elevators than I did prior. Somehow they made that shit show worse.

>>1916665
the entire lower deck of the polaris is fucking retarded

>>1916408
>they're not fixed! t-they'll break again eventually!
holy delusional Smartie

>>1916750
>eventually
I've had them completely locked up in my hangar twice already. Eventually is long gone.

starlancer max avaliable when

>>1917074
November, IAE.

>>1917074
just do wikelo?

>>1917271
had no clue about this, Ill look into it once Im done with my mining

>the assgard is the best daily driver it's cutty black+
I've been on the hunt for assgards to kill for like 3 days now, and I've only managed to kill like 2(the only 2 I found).

Nobody fly's this piece of shit, it's all fake and gay.

Is PvP bounty hunting functional in the current game?

Guidance markers and missions were very broken when I last played like 6-9 months back.

>>1916634
>it seemed like people didn't know the layout until it was actually in game, whereas back in the day we always had full interior maps long before the ship released.
It was so long from concept to release that the original floor plan was no longer valid.

I just don't like the color and material choices in the interior, and most of it is pretty barren. Even moving the room labels from being tiny text on the floor to bigger labels on the wall next to the door would have helped.
Honestly though, as a Polaris owner, the biggest problem I have with it was just having reality set in on what operating a ship that size entails, I knew I'd need a big crew and all that but actually experiencing it in practice really made me realize how impractical it is, not just in terms of crew requirement but also just how long it takes to get around the ship and so on. Anything else aside it'd really benefit from some kind of system that'd allow you to access your personal inventory somewhere other than the lockers in the crew cabins. I also really wish they'd found a way to connect the top and bottom floors with stairs instead of making you rely on slow-ass elevators or janky ladders.

>>1918321
Think you'll melt it?

>>1918355
NTA but I would prefer it if CIG gave me an Idris loaner for my fucking Kraken instead of a goddamned polaris.
Like what the fuck man. I hate these long ramps, I hate this cramped interior, I hate this shitty fucking series of hallways that makes me feel like I'm in a liminal analog horror short.
A sat in the dining area and couldn't stand up. I am losing my shit over how bad this ship is.

>>1918380
>only 1 ramp the longest in the game and you have to use it at all times
>longest hallways in the game so long they zigzag so they aren't visibly unrendered
you'd hate the idris man.

>>1918392
I don't need much. Just a ship that can 1) fit smaller cargo ships like the cutlass to ferry freight, and 2) a primary weapons system that's tied to the pilot seat.
The Polaris is dogshit in functionality because anything bigger than a Mole cannot be killed without me needing to sprint down a hallway and/or going down an elevator that takes fifteen seconds to descend.

>>1917954
I killed asgards at PAF in 4.2 since they're everywhere when they released
It's honestly way easier to kill than a cutty since it turns as slow as a connie but only has size 2 shields

>>1918409
I think it's good that kraken owners don't get an idris

>>1918467
You're grounded.

>>1918467
based

>>1917074
What you mean? It's not even 9mil to get one.

>>1918252
It sorta works, but people will often suicide or log out if they realize they're going to get caught.

>>1918409
Just use the top turrets.

>>1918961
I never understood why people do that.
It's not like logging out or suiciding will do anything.
The fact that you had to do that means the bounty hunter already won. No one does bounty hunter for the measly 151k

>>1919019
I shot a guy in the new complex area, logged out, and my CS cleared.

nobody tell him, it'll be funny

>>1918252
it's fixed and very doable, but most people just hide at grimhex. as a result you can just sit outside the hangars there cycling targets until you see one try to leave

>>1919394
Currently if someone has an active bounty you can just walk into their hangar from the inside of the outpost/station via the elevator and shoot them.

>>1919019
I've seen many of them suicide directly back to the med bed in Grim Hex. Sometimes they do it as a form of fast travel when they're not even aware they're being pursued.

>>1919597
Does it display their hangar on the list in the elevator?

>>1919697
Sure does.

>>1919731
Okay, this is kino

>>1919734
It's gotten to the point where I come up with creative ways to kill people who hide in GHex Hangars. My current favorite is knocking them over with maxlifted items, and then killing them with a knife takedown.

>>1919740
oh btw if you knock them out you get a couple seconds to rob them blind. they drop their held gun, they may have changed this but it used to be you could take their armor as well.

I just realized the guy in here who always talks like he's AI also talks just like Northen

>>1920573
someone wrote that they thought I wrote like a chatbot previously.

Who is "northern" ?

I generally avoid following influencers and SC videobot marketing personalities who show which ship is right for you on the tubesite of censorship pledges..., is northern one of those or like a discord boy-grooming streamer type?

>>1919731
Well shit, I guess I'm doing some SWAT style invasions at GH!

>>1920934
this would actually be fun as fuck with a group all just yelling breach and clear shit in voip

Good news: the Apollo is releasing next month.
Bad news: it's not coming with drones. Drones are coming with basebuilding.

>>1921015
More good news: Apollo is coming with all six modules for free.

>>1918355
Nah, it was my dream ship for years and I'll still use it sometimes. Not worth melting anyway, it's in a package that has so many years of CCU minmaxing that I'd lose like $1000 worth of ship value if I melted it.

>>1921019
no reason to use anything other than t1 beds

>battlecruiser is being worked on, officially
>thought to take several years to put into the game
What the fuck is the timeline of this game.
Are we going into 2030 and the game won't be finished?

>>1921079
I didn't finish the SCL, where does this thing fit, does it have a name? is it bigger than a javelin? the pegasus? bengal?

>>1921079
>finished
Scam shartizen was the OG modern live-service game

>>1921126
Bigger than Javelin, smaller than Bengal.
Coming soon as a concept ship...

>>1921079
CIG is running out of money, desperately trying to come up with ways to make more to keep running. Has nothing to do with the future of the game when they have impending bankrupcy looming over them.
>introduce best in-class ships, without any gameplay where you could actually use them
>introduce flavor of the month fighters with bigger and better guns for their size each time
>introduce 24 waves of idris, minimum of 2400 Idris for 4.8 million dollars
>introduce yet another capital ship to never be completed, bigger and better and more expensive

>>1921015
>>1921019
They also said they will *consider* trying very hard to fix medbeds with tape and chewing gum with it.

>>1921181
>>introduce best in-class ships, without any gameplay where you could actually use them
>>introduce flavor of the month fighters with bigger and better guns for their size each time
lmao you don't know shit about boxing, retard. neck yourself immediately my kid.

>>1921126
It's being concepted currently. Very early stages. No name. "Powerhouse".

>>1921243
I bet it really punches above it's weight

>>1921252
It's literally the largest ship, I don't think it does.

>>1920978
>FBI! OPEN UP!!!

>>1921243
they're just gonna stick an interior into this thing and sell it, aren't they?

>>1921567
they already said its only craftable and only feasible by the biggest guild

>>1921079
>>1921181
Even the Javelin hasn’t been available for players to use for over 10 years (still not now), and now they’re saying they’ll add an even larger battlecruiser? How long will it take before it’s actually added to the game? 10 years? 15 years? And how much will it cost? $5k? $6k? They must be out of their minds.

>>1921567
this is the first ship that ever had an interior

>>1922042
Its about money anon, they need money and this scheme as worked before.

>>1922042
>>1922480
they are contractually required

>>1923095
They've already made it impossible to fulfill all of the original KS goals.
Not that anybody really cares, now. It's been thirteen years in development.
If CIG survives the UK civil war then we might see the game completed, but not before then.

>>1923095
where's my pets, modularity, 100 star systems, private servers, I don't even wanna look at the old goals for more examples it will only depress me

What's in this 5 gig patch?

> /scg/
More like /svcg/, scam victim coping general

>>1923608
>using the word graceful to describe your own work in a patch note
oh yeah, CIG is fully jeetified. at least now the game's stability is understandable

>>1924468
Saar Citizen....

>>1924477
the fact that this meme isn't even a joke but a real thing that happened...

>>1924468
"graceful" is a very common term in programming for everything. A graceful process is basically one that happens intentionally and without causing negative consequences. For example, a "graceful shutdown" is disconnecting from remote endpoints, closing any resources open on the system and then releasing all memory rather than just killing self

if anything jeets are unlikely to use the term since they don't do procedures like that

is there any resources out there for figuring out where to get wikelo mats? it's obnoxiously dense. can't just be a valakkar pearl, has to be a certain size and grade, and I can't find any info on where to get what. juvenile, apex etc is fairly obvious but grade? AA? AAA etc, is it just luck of the draw? I'm trying to find irradiated AAs for an ikti and I have no idea if I need to go to lazarus or if I could find them in onyx, and there if the little guys or only the big guy would have them. I've never even seen a pearl

>>1924955
>is there any resources out there for figuring out where to get wikelo mats?
https://starcitizen.tools/Wikelo
>juvenile, apex etc is fairly obvious but grade?
It's a pearl the size of a basketball, harvested from the skin of a valakkar. So you're looking to kill irradiated Apex versions.
Those only show up in two places: Onyx sites, and Pyro I. But Pyro I has the biggest versions.

>>1925098
is the one in Onyx considered an apex? I haven't seen the lazarus one in person but based on video it doesn't seem as large as the onyx one, maybe I'm wrong

>>1925263
I don't know. You'll need to kill it to find out.

>>1924846
you're right, but how can they "gracefully replace" the server if it fucking crashed?
>after the house burns to the ground due to an electrical problem, we will build you a new one in no time
>we are great at urban management
they need seamless, rolling updates
but if they had that they wouldn't need to wait for a crash

>>1926094
Maybe it's like when you have a ballerina kick your power cord from the wall, so you can say you gracefully shut down in record time.

>>1926094
what the fuck are you smoking?
"gracefully being replaced" means updating the servers as they get empty naturally instead of shutting them down and bothering people

>>1926728
have you read the image?
>gracefully being replaced with the new hotfix when the crash
it means they wait until the server craps out and only then they replace it with a fixed version, while you and your pals are trying to log in again

>>1926728
>updating the servers as they get empty naturally...
These servers only empty naturally when the log-on service rube goldberg pipeline stops working, and stays broken long enough for all of the bed-stuck players who can not exit their hab or bed to attempt their first regionhop-serverhop... or ragequit.

Such a server might stay running for hours, if there were more than 5 guys playing who had 48+GB of RAM to safeguard against the most common "memory leak" crashes.

Has anyone tried running Star Citizen on Windows 7 again since the unsupporting?
Windows 7, with a modern-enough GPU might have a chance of at least starting, running, and successfully connecting/playing, because of VxKext and the multiple forks that instantly spawned once the original author took the source code down.

VxKext kernel extensions.

https://windowsforum.com/threads/run-modern-apps-on-windows-7-with-vxkex-next-a-guide.352236/

My PC will sometimes shut off during QT. Everything I've looked up talks about it being a hardware problem, but I've literally only had this happen in Star Citizen, and it seems to come and go with different patches. Am I being retarded in not wanted to start changing out or upgrade parts to avoid this, because I feel like this is more of a problem with Star Citizen then my PC.

>>1928041
Before going further, specs? Deleted user / shaders folder?

>>1928055
To further adds, is all your shit updated, and are you running dx11 or the Vulkan API?

>>1928041
If your system turns off unexpectedly, that is indeed your hardware. Stop being stubborn about it and figure out what the offending part is before it fucks something up worse. Start with power related stuff like the PSU.

>>1928041
pc shutdown is always hardware or OS issue. Check the low-iq ones like power button not being pressed etc. Then after all the nice and easy fixes are tested - its time to look at Power Supply Unit, Motherboard, CPU. Your windows will have an error code for the shutdown if it catches it..
As for why Star Citizen, why QT? SC is very heavy game, easily the heaviest game I have, probably the heaviest game that exists. During QT the game wants to load and unload the planets, ships etc.

For example, I have 3070 with watercooling - its enough for 99% of games, most others have to either run on lower settings or some prototype stuff I work on the game industry is just over the memory limit and wont run well at all..

But Star Citizen is something else. Using Polaris I cant use Atls due to the massive lag making it unusable, I have ~5-10 fps in hangars with polaris.
>2017 Idris model runs fine.

>>1928108
NOT cpu, I meant GPU. Power down is most likely caused by lack of power to GPU or motherboard, power spike or lack of power output of PSU.

>>1928041
I agree with everyone else that it's very likely a power issue. For whatever reason my PC cooling fans always ramp up to the max during QT (AMD 7900x / RTX4080) without ever having to do it anywhere else in the game.

>>1928041
when you enter QT, SC mega stutters as it unloads and loads bunch of data, that spike could be overloading your PSU or tripping a CPU safety
>>1928145
some ships do this for some unknown reason, Aurora does/did it, StarMAX on release did too, i just tab out of the game if i'm flying one of those ships

>>1928109
>>1928145
It's very likely it's this. I upgraded my GPU recently but I haven't upgraded my power supply. I'm a poorfag so I was trying to aim for one that didn't draw much more power than my old one, but it did a little.

>>1928318
>when you enter QT, SC mega stutters as it unloads and loads bunch of data,
>>1928145
I agree with everyone else that it's very likely a power issue. For whatever reason my PC cooling fans always ramp up to the max during QT (AMD 7900x / RTX4080) without ever having to do it anywhere else in the game.
>>1928109
I agree with this opinion
>>1928145
I agree with this opinion

NTA but I think it might be related to an increase in GPU power draw, edging into the safety shutdown zone rating that may be shown in the "Maximum Ampere Draw" spec of your PC power supply.

If you look at FPS readouts, the FPS goes way up when entering quantum travel, which appears to indicate a significant increase in GPU power usage for rendering, on top of all the memory bandwidth saturation that may be taking place.

Like when you turn off "FPS Cap When Minimized" and all your GPU and CPU fans suddenly start howling out of nowhere, when you dare to use ALT-Tab to check your erkul.games tab.

At least that is what I see with these GPU models: 2060 6GB and RX580 8GB

Also, VxKext for windows 7 players who experiment in spite of the rolling death of systems with outdated spyware updates, such as Windows 7 and XP64.

And this curious funny thing:
https://www.store-citizen.com

>>1928108
>I have ~5-10 fps in hangars with polaris.
Too much greebling, "Red Dwarf" starship design style kills rendering with cluttered ugly polygons, added by some polygon-adding complexifying vibecoder python widget in blender.

>>1928041
Check the connections to your PSU (wait at least thirty minutes after unplugging your PC before touching anything inside the tower).

>>1928997
You're joking, right? I've been screwing with computers for 33 years and I've never waited to touch anything. Don't need the ESD bands either. Just flip off the PSU switch and leave it plugged in. The ground stays connected and you're discharged any time you touch the case. Have never killed a single piece of hardware outside of normal wear and tear.

>>1928802
>Too much greebling
Sure, I personally think its the massive amount of lights.

Anyhow, massive performance issues for such a plain ship. Interior especially but exterior too to be honest.

>>1929011
I'm not going to pretend like I'm an electrician, but I do know not to touch shit that has electricity running through it. Especially anything that has metal contacts.

>>1929011
>>1929157
NTA, but AT IBM-Compatible PC power supplies from the 1980s and 1990s had mains voltage running all the way to the power switch on the front when the PSU was plugged in, if it was even (rarely) equipped with a secondary disconnect switch on the rear panel.

The successor spec, ATX powersupplies, basically always have volts going into the motherboard, in order to always be ready for the power-on pins to get a closed circuit from your low-voltage front panel power button,...

And also to supply power to run the always-maybe-you-never-know AME/PSP/etc spyware IP blocks in the motherboard chipset and in the CPU package. AME runs/ran Minix on their glowieshit, by the way.

>>1929011
>>1929157
>>1929188

In most cases you will just cause a faultcase if you remove components while the pc is on, not end of the world. but plugging out and in the contacts will cause electrical arc that can damage the components, the voltage is also not correct for the component for a little bit of time so it doesnt love it either.

Mostly you are going to be fine but I personally have had some components, especially amd graphics cards that are soldered on kinda haphazardly and have lost their soldering in normal use, and that soldering can go if you play around with the components enough.

Most if not all PSU should actively stop most problems and the components can withstand a bit of abuse. Most overlockers do their stuff with everything on, but even they usually dont have more than they need on the motherboard. Even if the chance to lose a GPU is 1:1000, you kinda dont want to do it with these prices.

Since dust can conduct electricity, its not like most of us degenerates dont subject the components to runaway currents anyway. Not to mention my power pc was on ungrounded power for years in my last appartment, only symptom was getting electrocuted from the ethernet cables.

TLDR: Don't fiddle with power on if you dont have to, however for the most part it should be fine.

1. What are some fun things to do in the game right now. About the only interesting thing I've seen in the last year is being able to enter bounty hangars to subdue them.

2. How are the bugs/crashes ingame right now. Is everything just as fucked up as always?

>>1929780
>What are some fun things to do in the game right now. About the only interesting thing I've seen in the last year is being able to enter bounty hangars to subdue them.
Bounty hunting/Onyx facility PvP is always fun, even moreso with the friends you scam along the way.

>How are the bugs/crashes ingame right now. Is everything just as fucked up as always?
There has been some pretty nasty client crashes the past patch that have seemed to be fixed as of now, so as far as server and client stability goes (in my case atleast) its been good.

>>1929780
>What are some fun things to do in the game right now. About the only interesting thing I've seen in the last year is being able to enter bounty hangars to subdue them.
Bounty hunting/Onyx facility PvP is always fun, even moreso with the friends you scam along the way.

>How are the bugs/crashes ingame right now. Is everything just as fucked up as always?
There has been some pretty nasty client crashes the past patch that have seemed to be fixed as of now, so as far as server and client stability goes (in my case atleast) its been good.

>>1929157
I didn't say to touch anything live. I said to switch the PSU to the off position, but to leave the cord plugged in for the benefits of easy grounding. Everything should be discharged in a mere 10 seconds.

I'm thinking about getting this game without whaling, but is there a working gameplay loop? I just came out of Dune Awakening and I'm tired of having nothing to do.

>>1930225
Been playing since around 2015. This is how it will go for you:
>keep hearing about cool shit in game
You are here
>Decide to try it out, and it's a steaming pile of shit but you can see the vision and there's just enough working stuff to where the novelty excites you.
>Fuck around until a stable patch hits and things are relatively stable, then start playing a LOT more
>Realize shitty starter ship is criminally shitty and underperforms for every single task and job in the game (by design). You basically can't earn any usable amount of money without begging
>for $20 more, you can upgrade to the Avenger, which'll let you get your first real taste of money ingame since now you have 8 SCU and you can survive in ship to ship combat. Also, it's peak comfy
>However, the avenger isn't enough as you engage further into the universe, it's just a taste of what you could be earning. for $50 more you could have the Cutlass Black.
>Now you are a real king of the void seas, you CCU'd your avenger to the Cutlass Black and now you have 4 gimbaled guns, a ball turret and a much bigger cargo hold. Things are good
>But for $100 you could have the Constellation and live out the multi-crew captain vibe while also having some serious firepower and be able to carry a vehicle onboard and a snub! You will be Spike and Captain Reynolds, the ultimate star citizen.
????
>It's been several years and you've gained considerable disposable income... what's the worst that could happen?
????
>You now own an entire fleet of ships including capital ships but you've been through so many cycles of shitty patches, bugs, full wipes, unintentional wipes, hackers, old bugs being reintroduced in a never ending cycle of bullshit as you watch the game fall farther from what it originally was and closer to e-sports zoomer-slop 3-man coop looter shooter mediocracy. The game no longer interests you, and when it releases, what will you even have to strive for?

Are you prepared to go all the way, Anon?

>>1930225
Free fly is coming shortly. May God have mercy on us all.

>>1930225
Just join an org (guild) and be a crew member.

Everyfuckingone has a ship and needs crew. You get money to buy ships ingame by just playing the game.

If you want the big big big ships, then it doesnt really matter if you are crew or the one piloting or owning the ship..

>>1930636
additionally, Avenger Titan (one of the starters) is literally the best ship in the game, so if anything - that.

>>1930397
Didnt take that long for me btw.
I joined 3.22, the best version of the game to date - and I got hooked, bought all my expensive shit almost immediately.

Do I have buyers remorse? Yeah on the big ships sure.

>>1930638
I prefer the Warlock, and I do greatly enjoy it, but it's hard to claim it's the best. The turn and strafe rates are beaten by many ships, and the firepower isn't the best either. Its superb forward speed allows it to come and go as it pleases, making it a great hit and run fighter. Bias wins no fights.

>>1930397
I stopped giving cig money in 2020.
Honestly I spend more on fireworks every year than I have spent on sc combined through the years.

Wow this event bad. I hope they never do this shit again.

do you guys ever think chris isn't a genius and is in fact a moron?

>>1931390
>https://www.pcgamer.com/games/sim/chris-roberts-hopes-star-citizens-launch-will-be-almost-as-big-an-event-as-grand-theft-auto-6-still-targeting-2026-for-its-squadron-42-singleplayer-campaign/
Ho man...

Can some kind soul add my referral code to the list:
STAR-3K75-LP3D

Someone is complaining in concierge about the shitty way ships are being sold, where its impossible to buy them before they are sold out.

Well.. seems like Idris is selling well. CIG funded for a little while longer still. 4.8m dollars minimum.
Too bad it also means every server will have multiple idrises flying at any point in time.

Meanwhile:
No man's sky adds walkable interior ships, customizable multi crew...

>>1931839
Scam game

Why didn't they use distribution centers, anons? How come they always seem to be blindsided by problems that could have been simply avoided.

>>1932294
pretty sure they forgot they even made them at this point like many of the ships they've already released

>>1932294
probably something ridiculous like 'going too deep under planets causes rendering to break' and 'fixing it will take at least 10 months to refactor the entire planet position system' and 'along the way we also had to fix 3 other side quests'

>>1932294
You know the reason. It's the same reason for everything being shit in the game.
There is a skeleton crew working on the mmo and everyone else is playing pretend for Chris so he can make believe he's still a big director in Hollywood directing his favorite actors and not a total loser.

>>1931399
Cyberpunk managed to do it and that was a wholly original IP. Still delusional since we won't be getting anything nearly as interesting in terms of story or setting (maybe they can reach BG3 / EX33 levels) and also 80% of the playerbase has already bought it unless they console release the single player

>>1932492
>Cyberpunk managed to do it and that was a wholly original IP
Please answer me honestly. Do you really think that squadron 42 has the mindshare of cyberpunk and gta6 probably the biggest games ever released in gaming history?
Do you actually believe that? No judgement.

>>1932526
I said it was delusional, just pointing out that you can out of nowhere become as big as GTA if you dump enough money into marketing and the game has enough mass appeal / is good enough

>>1932537
>can out of nowhere
I think this is also delusional honestly. Cyberpunk and GTA6 have so much coming before them. Cyberpunk had over a decade of constant hype. When people think about star citizen they think it's a scam because that's the zeitgeist surrounding the game. I don't think that money will make Chris's niche single player game as popular as GTA6.
If I'm being totally honest I think Squadron42 won't be popular at all. Even worse I think it will be a buggy, barely playable mess.

>>1932492
Cyberpunk also had the benefit of being a PnP RPG akin to DnD, and then later picked up by the devs of the Witcher series. GTA is a household name because that series has been thirty years of non-stop bangers.
People know Star Citizen only because they know Digital Anvil, which released kino like Freelancer and Conquest: Frontier Wars. But these things aren't household names.

>>1932294
Some team made distribution centers that is no longer working at CIG or on SC, and nobody else wants to touch the spaghetti.

>>1932492
>>1932537
Cyberpunk was not a wholly new ip and it was not out of nothing. It was hyped like hell and made by the company that made Witcher 3 before it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P99qJGrPNLs

>>1931399
I'd think the idea is for S42 is to be compared to GTA6 by jounalists to help pad out their articles/videos, so they can just hitch a ride along rockstar's marketing. Ideally S42 could be spoken of as the PC alternative to GTA6 assuming it is still console-only.

>>1905201
You are blind, he clearly keeps moving but his own EVA suit is "braking".

>>1931390
>SQ42
>As big as GTA6
For one, SQ42 is not a sandbox game, it's a linear single-player game, with a branching story at best.
Now, if SQ42 was GTA in space, then there MIGHT be something there, if they leaned into the "independent developer/publisher" shtick and added all the shit that wouldn't fly in a product produced by a public company with shareholders.
He isn't necessarily a completely moron, but I'm worried he just might be too much of a pussy to give the backers what we REALLY want.

How are the rocket pods on the Mustang Delta?
Usable/useful? Or junk/not working?

>>1916648
are there still clipping assets and missing textures in the elevator?

>>1932935
>too much of a pussy to give the backers what we REALLY want
what do the backers want?

>>1932996
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/en/funding-goals
What we backed for

>>1932698
No one is comparing SQ42 to GTA6 except CR. Even journalists think it's retarded.

>>1931474
Added.

>>1932769
he's moving, but he immediately slows down because EVA max speed is like 5m/s, not because of actual physics like the suit's thrusters braking.
Stop coping, fag

>>1932769
nice of the suit designers to include the "immediately launch me away from the ship at high speed" safety feature
what is it """braking""" towards, the universal zero reference point at the center of the sun? that's some sci-fi tech all right

>>1932974
they were amazing when it launched and I'm pretty sure they totally invalidated them and did some other dumb shit with them when the mustangs got reworked.

>>1933746
see >>1905347
>this has been a longstanding issue or perhaps design choice (hard to tell when they make so many bafflingly bad design decisions and also break everything all the time)

>>1932984
Sometimes the elevator jerks unexpectedly. Or allows uncomfortably large crates to clip through the floor

>>1933829
>>1933746

They did this and space drag mainly for playability reasons, if there was no drag in space - if you character did not break in space- the game would be pretty hard to play. I understand your autism and I do think there could be some more realism in some things where people exploit it - but SC is not meant to be kerbal space program either afaik.

>>1933923
they could really have a standout game with unique mechanics that could be called a true sim, but they're afraid of alienating the GTA6 crowd apparently