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Eternal Maintenance edition

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>Download, key redemption
https://playbpsr.com/


>/bpsrg/ Resources, links & guides
https://rentry.org/bpsrg

>Release Date
October 9, 2025 (Global)
October 23, 2025 (Taiwan/SEA)

>Trailers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu-9bIIj0jE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px_DtSUjs4s

reposting spreadsheets
https://docs.qq.com/sheet/DVWxkQUtmUFpYREZk?tab=BB08J2 for market stuff
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Z9zPANvNN-ZMLXb7Q0AQ0Awz6bsE7JfA-eyOhRri0kc/edit?gid=600452879#gid=600452879 imagines/classes and other translations

>>1974063
Also there's a talent planner. Not up to date with CN. It's based on the English CBT.
https://bpsrtalent.vercel.app/

Reposting this here for anons looking for alt spec ideas even if it will eventually become slightly less relevant due to softcaps and some classes will not want to strictly adhere to the good boy thumbs up stats recommended for their classes, but I digress and this is meant to be a newfriend/quick-reference tool.
There's a good chance this thread will live until the maintenance ends.

Shares main stat
>STR
Shield Knight, Wind Knight, Heavy Guardian
>AGI
Stormblade, Marksman
>INT
Frost Mage, Verdant Oracle, Beat Performer (formerly Soul Musician)

Shares main stat + 1 substat
>STR/Mastery
SK (both), WK (Vanguard), HG (both)
>STR/Crit
SK (Reco), WK (Sky),
>STR/Luck
WK (Sky), HG (Block)
>AGI/Crit
SB (Iai), MM (Falcon)
>AGI/Mastery
SB (Iai), MM (Wild Wolf)
>AGI/Haste
SB (Moon), MM (both)
>INT/Mastery
FM (Frostbeam), VO (both)
>INT/Crit
FM (Icicle), BP (Concerto)
>INT/Luck
FM (Icicle), VO (Smite), BP (Dissonence)
>INT/Haste
FM (Frostbeam), VO (Lifebind), BP (both)

Shares all stats
>STR/Haste/Mastery
SK (Shield), WK(Vanguard)
>INT/Haste/Mastery
FM (Frostbeam), VO (Lifebind)

Dead-end stats (At the time of this writing)
>STR/Versatility
HG (Earth)
>AGI/Luck
SB (Moon)

>>1974469
>softcaps
I'm not convinced actual softcaps exist, going off this video: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1BxYjzLErq
Seems more like the formulas for converting substat totals into percentages always have diminishing returns. They're all ((substat total/(substat total+constant))+(base percentage if any).

Also I hear that Fostbeam still builds crit but don't quote me on it.

>>1974490
>diminishing returns
desu I wasn't 100% sure whether there were proper soft caps, but that's good to know.
>Also I hear that Fostbeam still builds crit but don't quote me on it.
I don't play Frost Mage, but I have heard the same about Frostbeam being one of those exceptions.
From what I've seen, it appears that the main "ignore what the game tells you" classes have Mastery as a suggested stat, since Mastery either scales well or poorly depending on the class due to the stat doing drastically different things per class. Meanwhile, Haste and Crit appear to mostly be "Grab enough until you feel comfy" stats.

This game is chinese now right? Didn't bamco sell the rights or something?

Is their anticheat? How pay to win is it?

>>1974595
Chinaman now owns it. There wasn't in the beta but there will most likely be an anti cheat on release. You can buy some things like summons gacha rolls and can get money to buy, the only thing really that would give you any real power it seems, skill books off the market. The rest seems to be cosmetic.

>>1974595
>How pay to win is it?
Less than most Eastern MMOs, but more than some Western MMOs

Action Game fag here. I'll be making a tryhard Guild for those of you who want to compete at the 1%. Blue Protocol does have PvPvE content as well as a Leaderboard. I'm aiming to become one of the best players in the game. Top 10 minimum. If you're a Gameplay chad I recommend you join my Guild. I will announce the name of the Guild 1 week before release

>>1976242
go back to vg

>>1976242
>Blue Protocol does have PvPvE content
No it does not

>>1976270
Star Resonance? It doesn't have it yet. It was in JP along with the leaderboards. Bidoof2D made a video about it and pay to win it was

>>1976279
Nothing on the new devs roadmap has said they'd bring it back. When asked about pvp in general they said no current plans at the moment.

>>1976281
PvPvE doesn't stand for PvP. It means competing in PvE content with the existence of a in-game Leaderboard. JP never had any PvP content but it did have PvPvE content last I checked.

>>1976294
>JP
lol lmao

>>1976294
>PvPvE stands for Player versus Player versus Environment, a game design where players face challenges from both other players and computer-controlled enemies or the game's environment simultaneously.

>>1976242
It doesn't have pvpve or leaderboards, it's not the same game as jp.

Should I buy a CN account?

>>1976444
They're cheap, why not

>>1976429
From what the secret testers are saying it's in and some new mini game called wild hunt

>>1976526
>wild hunt
enter

>>1976294
pvpve is not leaderboard speedrunner shit, that's not what that means
pvevp means shit like maplestory's monster carnival or mobas.

Hey, new guild related event, just go to the link and type in Yotsuba, or whatever guild you plan to join and you'll get some stuff later.
https://forms.gle/prmbEjY6c4oH4KFB7

>Guilds that recruit 15-39 members will receive the title "Ready for Adventure!" and a corresponding avatar frame.
>Guilds that recruit 40-69 members will receive the title "Armed and Dangerous!" and a corresponding avatar frame.
>Guilds that recruit 70 or more members will receive the title "Heroes Among the Stars!" and a corresponding avatar frame.

>Participation Period: 24 September 2025 - 08 October 2025
>Winners Announced: 15 October 2025
>Rewards: Distributed via in-game mail.

Do it for the frames they're cute.

>>1977000
for the people planning on joining Never, it's being renamed to Clover so put that in

>>1977171
>C***lover
Considering joining now

Are there any other imagines besides muku chief that have 2 uses?

>>1977000
>我们已收到您的回答

Odds mastery still won't be translated?

>>1977171
>Yotsuba
>Never
>Clover
I don't follow vg, did Yotsube get full?

By the way, the fox mount from the newest set of master mode is as fast as the gacha mounts.

>>1977709
it was full for most of CBT so it'll probably cap out instantly after launch again, guessing we'll need 3-4 to get everyone in during the initial wave

>>1977742
Dunno what to join then. I guess I will join a newer /vm/ guild if someone makes one

Some chink analyzing the low success of BPSR in China: https://news.qq.com/rain/a/20250827A06YJD00

>>1977833
Honestly, this is a pretty fair and nuanced read of the situation. Especially this bit talking about why combining "anime" and "mmo" is surprisingly hard.
>traditional MMO players will find it "not exciting enough" and "lacking in pursuit," while core anime gamers will find it "too grueling," "too social," and "too reliant on money." This requires the development team to have a deep understanding of both user groups and the courage and resources to break the mold. The financial and human costs required to balance these issues are astronomical.
This other part is interesting:
>Speaking from "Star Resonance", if there is a truly successful two-dimensional MMO in the future, it will definitely be more like a "continuously updated two-dimensional animation world that can be entered with like-minded people" rather than a "traditional MMO with a two-dimensional skin."
I kinda agree. traditional MMOs are generally too costly to produce and maintain, with an extremely fickle playerbase. A game that has an anime artstyle, that is multiplayer and live service, but not necessarily an MMO probably WOULD do better. Games like GBF: Relink comes to mind. That's where I think the future is, honestly.

>>1977847
I liked his points too, despite not agreeing with all of them, but they hold some truth regardless of my opinion.
The silver lining is that the game is new, and it will launch with just a few months of difference from CN. So, if the devs want, they can course-correct before it's too late by listening to player feedback

>>1977862
Yeah, same. I do think the mobile vs pc split is a big part of the game's story, both in development, and in consumer expectation. Bigger than the anime vs mmo thing, though that's an interesting angle to bring up that i haven't heard a bunch already. Mostly i say that cause CN is WAY more phone based, and also don't have the years of experience playing full MMOs, so I think star resonance is just way more MMO than they've really dealt with on mobile devices. There's definitely stuff they can course correct on, namely class swapping, and the entire economy around imagines. I kind of think the game will see stronger success in global than in CN honestly

>>1977870
>don't have the years of experience playing full MMOs
Yes, they don't have years of experience, but there are recent, mobile, full MMOs with too fucking many players in CN.
The thing is, these MMOs (mostly one) are good enough that I can't see its players completely migrating to BPSR. Maybe playing both at best.
>I kind of think the game will see stronger success in global than in CN honestly
I agree. It has the advertising, the word of mouth, the theme, and many other things going for it to be successful in the West. However, that relies on the devs course correcting on many things, like the ones you pointed out. And I'm slightly pessimistic about it because Tencent owns Bokura afaik

>>1977847
Didn't read it but
>too reliant on money
Core anime gamers play gacha, this doesn't make sense.
The second part also doesn't make sense sense since it won't be an MMO at that point.

>>1978336
I agree on both. Just thought the framing of the traditional MMO vs anime game is somewhat novel. But you're right, a lot of the anime game fans are gacha players, and for a lot of them, this is one of their first exposures to actual MMO design. I've seen a lot of dudes that think MMOs actually play like how SAO, Shangri La Frontier, Log Horizon portray them. They've never actually touched an MMO in their life, so I do think there actually is a clash between those two camps cause they don't agree on what an MMO should be.

The second part is more interesting cause it's hitting on something I think about a lot. That traditional MMOs don't actually work. Exactly as you say, a game that does what he said wouldn't be an MMO at that point, but I think that IS the point. What has constituted an MMO kinda doesn't work going by how much of a graveyard this genre's become in the last decade.

>>1978344
On all points, you can boil it down to gachas ruining the market.
Even a not-MMO but multiplayer lobby game wouldn't work anymore, this is what a lot of online anime games were in the first place, and they don't get made anymore because you can make a gacha instead and do better.

>>1978357
The amount of people I remember practically BEGGING for granblue relink to be a gacha was fucking unreal. Not begging that it had live service support for more than 3 months like a monster hunter. Not begging for a sequel. Begging for it to be a fucking gacha. The one solace we have is that in recent weeks, not one, but TWO upcoming gacha games have dropped their gacha and have announced they're just going to be selling cosmetics directly. Both Duet Night Abyss (animu warframe) and Ananta (bro idk it's maybe anime GTA) both dropped that. Maybe the trend is finally shifting as companies realize its oversaturated?

>>1978374
It does seem like the market is shifting back again, slowly.
It will take time and it'll only continue shifting if these games actually succeed without gacha, proving that it can be done and will give you hugely positive reputation.

>>1978378
Yeah if anything, the huge amount of good will and free marketing both of those games got for just announcing they're dropping the model is kinda crazy. And a lot of gacha companies have also shifted into making full standalone games. Relink, as mentioned before, but also stellar blade, reverse collapse, and iirc some stuff the arknights devs did on the side. Inshallah, the industry will heal. Now for isekai to die and we can truly move on.

>>1978374
>anime GTA
Bye bpsr bros I'm off to go on a honeymoon with my anime GTA now.

>>1978378
If it is shifting back it's because the people who grew up with gacha games now have to spend their own money instead of their parents.

In-game DPS meter has been implemented in CN

>>1977717
What is master mode, and does it need too much grinding?

>>1978706
As long as it doesn't hinder the casual anime gamers, it's fine. Otherwise, they will go back to their easy gachas

>>1978706
Thank God.

>>1978706
I'm afraid my skill is too high for this game.

>>1978706
is it a personal meter or is it for the whole party?

>>1979331
It picks others. It's just limited to the guild hall though

What's the general ranking for non-whale DPS specs right now? Is wolf bow still on top?

>>1979406
That same as whales but with smaller numbers.

>>1979489
Well what is that for whales then?

>>1979492
From what I've read from cn dudes in the threads.
Katana man
Spear guy
Bowmen
Bowmen
Scythe guy
ice sluts and the other spear guy

>style won the discord event
With this, we get some understanding of the player base. Do you think this will impact the game? If yes, how?

>>1980232
It was already pretty obvious this game is going to coast off casual players who will spend a lot of money on cosmetics, they need to still keep pumping out content if they want it to be taken seriously though or we end up with a PSO2 situation.

>>1980237
They'd have to do a lot post launch to get a hype wave.

Do either of the stormblade specs have a party synergy?

>>1980237
And that content better appeal to casuals, turning the game into a type of metaverse (I lack a better word for it). Otherwise, I can see Ananta or other shit taking some players from this game

>>1980637
Ananta is GTA/Spiderman slop.

>>1980641
It's an anime world where you can do plenty of things. It's like GTA Online.
If BPSR doesn't focus on being an anime virtual world that casualfags like, they will migrate to a game that does that

>>1980656
No I mean it is literally Spiderman
https://x.com/i/status/1971024237927510415

>>1980658
kek, those wacky chinese. what a classic.

>>1977000
How are they supposed to track the people signing up for this?
Also which guild should I join that won't be full on day 1

>>1980656
Sure, except the online part. It's a single player game with online only DRM so you can't pirate whatever garbage they're trying to sell you.
It has no relevance to BPSR because it's an entirely different genre.

>>1981179
We don't know that yet. They can easily allow multiplayer as NetEase does with WWM

>>1981519
it really doesn't matter bro they're not the same type of game so it's not going to steal the players... it doesn't even have character creation

>>1981548
>they're not the same type of game
They are both an anime world with things to do

>>1973991 (OP)
Can I play as cunny?

>>1984091
You can play as whatever you want as long as you are human

>>1984091
You about 4/5 of the vm and vg guilds.

I heard there is some drama going on in CN. Do you anons know about it?

>>1984897
Nothing out of the usual, people complaining about things that they made up in their heads because they don't understand what an MMO is.
The only real "drama" was at the start with the official livestreams having hosts who said some mean things and they'll never stop bringing that up as a reason for the game being bad, Chinese are very fragile.

>>1984897
Which one?
Currently they have:
>Login rewards locked until you've spent a certain amount
>Login rewards locked if you don't have a certain GS (might be not achievable for f2p)
>Items on marketplace are sold by the devs themselves, not players as advertised (rumor, but has some truth to it)
>Red module tier added just one month after the gold one. (highly p2w)

Previous drama:
>PC players gatekeeping mobile ones and kicking them from raid groups.
>Multiple DPS and market exploits (mostly fixed now but new exploits are being founds regularly)
>Inconsistent class balance which changes each patch and no practical way to respec if you've been shafted (promised to be fixed in Season 2)

>>1984997
Yep. The recent ones. I heard something about a 30k event and how the devs fucked up mining profits for players because of it.
There is also the devs delaying season 2 despite the upcoming week-long holiday in China. The players will have nothing to do.
But I didn't hear anything about the first login rewards and the red module tier

>>1984997
>PC players gatekeeping mobile ones and kicking them from raid groups
based

>>1985089
yeah that's not even drama, just the way it should be

whats the status of being f2p dps player? I mainly plan to maybe buy battle pass and thats it otherwise full f2p but my question is how wind knight and stormblade classes are doing in this area since those are the dps Im looking to most likely play
also a question how a players skill can apply to classes? does being skilled, doing good rotation and generally being consistent can cover the gaps of not spending tons of money?

How is this game? The only mmo I've played is ffxiv and a little bit of ffxi, and I liked the latter significantly more. I have a big problem with xiv that while I can somewhat appreciate the fights (if allowed to solve them blind that is) but everything else is pretty obnoxious. At minimum is the game an actual RPG and are the jobs or whatever actually fun and diverse? Do you need alts to switch between them or can they be all on one character? Also how necessary is the story? I've been caring less and less about game stories and just wanna game, would I be missing out on anything skipping cutscenes?
In general getting into a new mmo sounds somewhat exciting but I don't really wanna fall into the same pitfalls as I already have. If I'm gonna grind a game I'd like it to be engaging and not something to fall asleep to.

>>1985259
>At minimum is the game an actual RPG and are the jobs or whatever actually fun and diverse?
Stats do matter, and classes play differently from each other. No generic bland 2 min burst design stuff, and there's a lot of subsystems for gearing
>Do you need alts to switch between them or can they be all on one character?
All classes can be unlocked in one character, like xiv. Gearing them is a pain unless you're willing to swipe or wait until your main is done
>Also how necessary is the story?
Very, since it's the main source of exp, which is character based, not class.
>would I be missing out on anything skipping cutscenes?
No, the story is generic shit and should be skipped. Airona is a cute money goblin though.

I like the game, as a long time xiv player. The fights are definitely more simplistic right now. Dungeons are around an arr-hw dungeon. The three weekly 20 raids are a bit lower than normal raid/alliance difficulty, from what I've heard. But the game has the mechanical potential to make more complicated fights. Whether or not they do is a question of how much they cater to the mobile crowd. Classes are more basic to play, but I think more interesting than xiv design. They have stronger mechanical identities than "every 2 minutes I hit all the yellow border skills and procs and then go back to 123"

fuck off xivtrannies

>>1985573
Even me?

>game releases 9th
>surgery on 10th

I'm not getting into a guild it seems.

>>1985768
its a phone game bro just play in the hospital

>>1985768
I'm torn if I want to join one here or join a normie one. I'd be able to play with my normie friends and help them with guild hunts, but I almost would guarantee a normie guild isn't going to be as active. There's a high chance they don't unlock tier 2 shop early, or finish the guild hunt progress bar, and my group of 4 can't carry that alone. A 4chan guild unironically plays more than some of these normies. Honestly a conundrum.

>>1985773
My phone is like 1 step above a flip phone.

>>1985768
there will be like 4 guilds and people will be quitting and getting kicked within a month, don't fret too much you are going to miss nothing except retarded homo drama, but you can just read the thread for that

>>1985768
If you played cbt contact Kenzou over discord and I'm sure he'll give you priority on the first upgrade which should come within the first weekend

>>1985655
Especially you

>>1986062
dang

>>1985768
don't chop it off bro...

>>1986392
I ain't a fag. It's a legit operation for a legit problem.

>>1986392
bro wants to become his character irl... it's over

Are the gold premium tickets ever bound? If I melt an outfit for tickets, can I sell those tickets?

>>1977000
Reminder that if your guild is not registered in their discord, it doesn't exist.

IGN launch trailer
https://youtu.be/mQBBTVUcyQ8

>>1988626
>no niggers
CN BP>AGS BP

>>1988871
I wonder if they'll change the NPC helpers for solo dungeons. Nearly every single one is always black.

What up, sisters. This is your "DMCbro" speaking. I'd like to announce I will be making Tenjo Sisters on the day BPSR servers go live!

>What is Tenjo Sisters?
A: Tenjo Sisters will be /bpsrg/'s guild for anyone looking to play the game slightly more serious than everyone else. We will aim to become one of the top 10 Guilds on the server based on competitive raiding, speedrun, an other form of competitive clears, as well as, the upcoming Competitive Leaderboard mode releasing in a future patch.

>What if I'm a Free to play player?
A: FREE TO PLAY PLAYERS ALLOWED! The only requirement to meet all Guild expectations are the following...
1. Being active
2. Participating in both casual and competitive Guild clears (and other Guild events)
3. Ensure your gear meets the minimum requirements for any and all End-game content

>Why did you name the Guild "Tenjo Sisters"
I want the guild to represent aiming for the top. Tenjo in Japanese means "ceiling" so that is why I named it Tenjo Sisters. The "Sisters" part is straight forward - the female to male character ratio in the game is 9:1 - I figured we may as be "Sisters"

>What will not be tolerated?
Inactive players
Guild loners/hoarders not participating with the rest of the Guild
E-Peen/EGO mindset

>E-Peen/EGOs WILL BE INSTABANNED!!!!
Since I live by Character Action Games I will die by Character Action Games. If you are going to show any form of E-Peen in my Guild it will be done through actual video footage showcasing your skills rather than trash talking another player. I have a ZERO TOLERANCE for those kind of idiots. You will not be apart of Tenjo Sisters for long if you act like an asshole. If you really want to best someone play them in a Fighting Game or another 1 vs 1 environment.

Please add the Guild into the OP of the next thread. Thank you!

>>1989254
I'm joining.

Cmon do more marketing

>>1989254
Thanks but I'm joining a normie guild with my normie friends

>>1989254
the fuck is a tenjo

>>1989254
This feels like a shitpost, did nobody tell you this is an auto play mobile game?

>>1989246
Eh? Seriously? Is it like that in CN too? The only nigger I found was the NPC in the solo trials

>>1989585
they're randomly generated characters, just unlucky

>>1989254
Cool I'll join

>>1989596
>random genereta ai slaves
>they are niggers
AAAAIIIEEEE SAVE ME CALIFORNIA

>>1989254
>and other Guild events
Your guild is already disqualified from the pre-registration event because the name contains spaces.
Other guilds from /here/ are disqualified as well since neither of them is registered in the discord.

>>1989738
>registered in the discord
you do not have to do this

>>1989754
it's 2025, unc. everything is done in discord.
>"The Guild Master must correctly register the guild on the form and in the guild channel."

>>1989758
he literally made that up, he's not a mod or cm or anything

Is it worth making alts if I want to play multiple classes right away or will I be gated by account wide limits?

>>1990180
making a new character is like making a new account, you won't have any limits but you also won't keep anything from your other characters

>>1990187
Do you know about how long it takes to ramp up a new class on the same character?
I can't decide if I'm better off running alts or just grinding it out on one character.

>>1990191
It's far more timegated than making a new character, so if you just want to have multiple classes available at the highest levels, then a new character is better at the start

>>1990191
The big thing stopping you is reforge stones. Skill books and imagines are big too but less important for alt activities. Reforge stones though gate a lot of stats and gearscore. You eventually drown in them though so it's more of a limit for the first few weeks of a gear level. I'd say make alts, ideally to cover the other main stats. So if you're main is frost mage, make a strength alt and an agility alt. It's a lot easier to skip the reforge issue by sharing main stat, even if substats are suboptimal

>>1990191
>>1990194
>>1990276
I would do another class on your main character because you'll still have the +to gear slot. You're going to run into stone and book problems either way. That being said hardcore sweats will have alts to get be room mates with your main so you can feed more crafting shit to them.

>>1990503
>That being said hardcore sweats will have alts to get be room mates with your main so you can feed more crafting shit to them.
... what?

How much does one of the gacha imagines without any of the limit breaks cost on average? Are they worth it if I'm only going to pull for one copy?

>>1991762
You make an alt who lives with your bro.
He makes an alt who lives with you.
You both do the things you are expected to do, but never mention it again, because gentlemen don't talk about those things.

>>1991762
it's a meme, the only crafting shit you can share are related to dyes and cooking

>Smite Guide
See pic.
Get the numbered talent nodes ASAP.
>Lifebind Guide
Max Special Skill (Life Bloom), Nourish
Stand still
Spam Special Skill
Use Blossom Charge when out of Energy.
Use Feral Seed when all-out of Energy.

Figure the rest out as there will be no 102 guide.

>>1994222
>Wolf Bow Guide
See pic.
Get the numbered talent nodes ASAP.
>Bird Bow Guide
Stack Crit. (Birb only obeys CRITS)
Swap in Recommended Skills (ingame).
Engage Auto Pilot Mode.


Figure the rest out.

>>1994222
>Sky Spear Guide
See pic.
No talent tree because I don't know which one is priority.
>Ground Spear Guide
Idk, too hard. Can't go wrong with Activating Auto Attack.

>>1973991 (OP)
aw...

>forgot to link OP
So over...

>>1994805
their build planner is pretty nice

>>1994879
>they show off the NPC weapon skins
>we STILL don't have them
REEEEEEEEE

>>1994805
>>1994863
Wish the planner showed substats better. Ideally with all talent nodes in play too.

>>1994958
are you posting this to troll?

>>1994958
Go away, diaperboy.

>>1994252
Thanks, anon. I will find someone to erp with you

>>1994805
Did they nerf Airona or is this incorrect? This is what's in their build planner.

>>1995015
half the site is broken and shows the wrong stuff

>>1995015
that's a different imagines effect

>>1995005
Why not bring yourself...?
Actually just find me some moolah.

>>1973991 (OP)
is this another gacha game?

>>1995622
yes but it's also an mmorpg

>>1995622
gacha is mostly for outfits and one part of the gearing system, its mainly an mmorpg

>>1994958
reminder that this guide was posted in full without the signature or character pic
at best he's attention seeking, at worst he stole some other anon's guide to try and claim credit for it

>>1995656
Well he's a retard in the first place because Mastery sucks on Smite
90% of your healing is from Regen Pulse spam and not the Damage to Healing Conversion which is what Mastery scales

asking here again because you guys might actually talk about the game

Any other prelaunch event going on, aside from that website lottery and that guild sign up on discord?

>>1995801
Nothing yet, I'm expecting them to announce something tomorrow.

>>1995622
it looks like a small system within a larger game

>>1995809
also saw that there will be rewards for people with crunchyroll memberships but not much information after that

>>1995801
I havent even been able to do the lottery event because the website refuses to let me log in

>>1995552
Because I only want to erp with fat women (female)
>spoiler
That's fine

Feels like there's no marketing going

>>1996460
Cause there is no marketing

>>1996460
>>1996468
This game has so much potential to be successful in the West despite the shit happening in CN. I hope Bokura or Tencent don't fuck it up with stuff like the lack of advertising

>>1996468
what is marketing to you? they're doing ads all over the place, marketing can only do so much for a cursed name like blue protocol

>>1996500
Marketing would be not using that name for the Western release. It doesn't use it for CN really

>>1996500
>>1996503
Plenty of normies were hyped for BP regardless of JP. The IP is carrying the game hard in the West imo

>>1996500
>marketing can only do so much for a cursed name like blue protocol
bruh nobody has heard of this shit before now

>>1996460
they set up a streamer sponsorship program but that won't kick in until the game launches

Should I play tank for my 3 dps friends or play dps for myself but cause partying issues since there'd be 4 dps then?

>>1996875
Tank, better to have one available

>>1996875
Tank, because your friends are retards and randoms are even bigger retards, so you'll have to be the competent one.

>>1996875
>are one of your dps friends playing as a wind knight?
play healer instead
force the wind knight to switch every so often, or hope to get a competent tank pub
>are one of your dps friends playing as a frost mage?
play as a tank
force the frost mage to flex as healer or suffer pub heals

Can anyone confirm if goblin king uses the imagine level of the other goblin imagines it summons, including storm goblin king?

>>1998519
It doesn't.

>>1998526
So I don't need level 5 of all them? That's a relief.

Will the closed beta client update or will I have to re-download?

Which DPS should I play?
I was thinking about making a character for each role since I'm a super tryhard and want to make alts anyways to feed my main.
I'm gonna play Smite Oracle as my main, and for Tanks I'll go Sword and Board because I like the Aesthetics of it more.
For DPS I was thinking I might go Wolf Bow to just auto, but I figure maybe there's another DPS I should try that has a fun playstyle or whatever.

>>1999323
I think WK is the most fun of the dps bunch, Marksman the least fun, Stormblade can be fun and so can Frost mage but they dont feel as dynamic as WK does sometimes

>>1999323
>want to make alts anyways to feed my main
this is not lost ark raidnigger

>>1999323
This is not the type of mmo where you use alts to feed your main, you make alts to avoid the investment of multiclassing and instead use the resources you get from msq faster

>>1999323
>to feed my main
This is a chinese game, they really don't want you to do that.

>>1999353
go back to the vg thread meanie, no bad vibes here

>>1999373
Ngmi
You will be kicked from Tenjou Sisters if you level Alchemy and Cooking on your main

>>1999391
but you should level everything because the weekly is easy and good exp

>To be clarify, game is not released at 2am es
>we'll post the preload and server opening time later today
Posted in the official discord, its coming.

>>1999406
you could just do it now if you're impatient
https://pc-download.playbpsr.com/apj_ob/Blue%20Protocol%20Star%20Resonance%20Setup%201.0.324.exe

>>1999468
based hackerman

>>1999468
But I need muh steam hours...

>>1999468
How legit is this

>>1999687
it's legit enough and the program itself is signed by the real company
i'll wait until the steam preload but feel free to use it

>>1999323
I want to play a dps that's the slowest to play and isn't autoplay based

>>2000018
Only mage is slow.

>>2000018
That's probably ray spec frost mage

this is EST

Don't forget to compile shaders and not just down load.

>>2000401
Also log in. The verification system is exploding at the moment but try to get that sorted out before tomorrow.

this will better have ultrawide support

What are the requirements to join a guild? Do I need to be a certain level?

>>2000544
it does

>>2000619
Whisper who ever is leading the guild and call them gay, or say you're from /vm/ or /vg/ if you want to be kinder, after you've applied. If I remember right the main quest or something will tell you about guilds.

Provided that I'm a competent player, which would I be better off playing if I want to actually get into groups and master content? Dissonance, Shield, Block, or Lifebind? I have no issues throwing enough money to have Tina+Airona.

>>2000889
neither, you should play a dps

>>2000889
There's a general tank shortage in CN. Ignore what /vg/ will say about the CBT guild.

>>2000908
So which one is more enjoyable between the two, spec aside?

>>2000909
The bat'leth class is apparently retard proof from what I heard which is crazy because when I played the SnS guy, it was pretty grug accessible.

>>2000914
I mean I don't mind it being hard, just want whichever is more viable and fun.

>>2000921
Technically SnS is "higher tier" but that's like comparing tacos to lasagna. People are going to eat both when offered.

>>2000930
Which is more fun in that case?

>>2000950
I don't know, I have only played recovery SnS. I know a lot of people liked the other spec of SnS because it was fast.

>>2000982
When I tried shield the rotation seemed kind of odd, but at the same time, the UI numbers overlapping was awful.

>>2000982
the best way to put it is that shield SK mostly spams one button while reco SK is more flowcharty and proc-based

>>2000988
That sounds miserably boring. Is HG any different?

>>2000995
Not him but I played earthfort. It's fun once you get all the talents to actually do your rotation. Even more so when you get the jump slam. You keep constant shields/mitigation up, are activating proc follow up skills, and then doing a jump slam that does surprisingly good damage (for a tank). Jump slamming does consume your shield so you gotta choose if it's a safe time to do it. You use all your buttons pretty equally i feel like. Maybe your special and basic more cause of the shield bash>jump loop between bigger CDs

>>2001018
I did try Earthfort, but from what I understand in CN is it's the worst of the 4 tank specs which sucks.

>>2000995
I know from cbt that recovery SK is going to be fun when you get a full set of crit gear with crit gems. Because all the procs are based off of crit and even with shitty gear I was at 25ish% crit rate. Assuming there's no diminishing returns or soft caps. I'm thinking 50ish% shouldn't be that hard to hit if you're willing to poop sock gear. I also noticed that I held agro better than other tanks, both during world bosses and the guild raid things, even when they did out gear score me. Though I don't know how hard people were trying.

>>2001023
>Assuming there's no diminishing returns or soft caps
All substats have diminishing returns.

>>2001021
if every class were to be given a 1-10 rating, each tank would be a 7.1 to 7.3 at the absolute most
don't fall for the memes of X class being good and Y class being bad, especially since the chinese balance patches are completely reshaping the state of the game every couple of weeks.

>>2001023
in world bosses and guild raids in particular, aggro juggling can be quite strange because you've got multiple tanks firing their taunts off. sometimes a boss will randomly decide to stick to a person rather than it consistently being on the same guy, even if you're sandbagging with autocombat

>>2001027
Then 50% will be the goal.

>>2001028
I don't know, I never really lost aggro in the raids I played in. Granted I only did like 3 or 4. I know every world boss after hitting max level I never lost aggro. Even If I came in late I some how stole it and kept it.

>>2001023
I hate that the UI can't be rearranged. You have the gauge + shields above the skills, and then bottom left is your shield amount, but then you play HG and the shield is in the middle of the screen for you.

>>2001028
It seems like HG is the more f2p friendly of the two since it has the pull without the imagine.

>>2001035
SK ult taunts, putting you at top. If you're not just auto combating, you're likely to steal it from the SKs that are, and always will from the HGs.

>>2001035
>SK
Chances are your ult was timed in a way that you'd steal aggro back from other tanks, especially since most of the geared SKs liked to hold their barriers for mechanics and/or specific attacks.

>>2001051
>hold their barriers for mechanics and/or specific attacks.
That's what I did too.

Go on without me bros...

Thanks for the help on the tank vs healer, anons. I'm going to spend the next 8 hours deciding on which tank.

>>2001186
Respecs are free. Books are not. So you can save your books and try out all of it.

>>2001199
Aren't the seals for talents not refunded? At this point I might just do HG because the name is already earth-related, even if it's worse. So long as I can do all the hard content with it I don't mind.

>>2001213
They are refunded on respec too.

>>2001219
Oh, that's pretty generous oddly. I guess I'll reroll for a few hours to see if I can get Tina with the limited resources, and then to decide on a tank since outside of books/lumo I'm free to do so.

>>2001213
They're refunded if you unspec your talents. I was swapping between two classes of the same role with one set of seals

Should I bother pulling for Tina if I can't MLB her? I swiped for MLB Kitasan but I've been told the imagine gacha is super jewish

>>2001241
It's CDR and stats regardless. MLB if you buy everything is close to 3-4 grand per human MLB

>>2001241
Even +0 tina's going to put you over a lot of the pug tank/healers. You'd also get enough purple fragments to likely get near a +5 purple of your choice, and likely enough gold fragments for a +0 of some non-NPC imagine of your choice.

I haven't even decided on my name sisters...

Press > ingame to activate DPS Meter

>Earrings, Rings, Bracelets, Necklaces
Gemcrafter + Gemology
>Heavy Gear, Heavy Weapons
Smelter + Excavator
>Light Gear, Charms
Weaver + Botanist
>Light Weapon
Carpenter + NPC Shop

>>2001322
As a corollary to this, don't skip the gathering weeklies. If you do them before the weekly reset on sunday night, you can do the 2nd set monday and start crafting purple gear with 80 refine. Can be a nice jump in power

Any newbie resources so I can decide on what class I want to play?

Do I make my character like in XIV or is character appearance decided by the class I pick like in Elsword or Crystal of Atlan?

>>2001350
Like XIV. You can play all classes on the same character too (gearing them all is a VERY separate matter)

>>2001352
Is ranged good in this game or is it stuck in the cuckshed too like in XIV?

>>2001353
Ranged are both very good. Probably better than melee for most players since genpop doesn't do uptime well. Ray frost mage does require some smart positioning for their burst though

>>2001356
Cool, I like playing ranged characters but ranged sucked in XIV since a mechanic can spazz out over they keyboard doing more button presses than a rhythm game player and still do less damage than a viper or a reaper pressing two buttons.

>>2001359
Yeah MCH was extremely disappointing in the first raid tier of DT when I played it. All the DPS are close enough and fight DPS checks aren't nearly tight enough for class differences to matter. What matters more is not being a mobile/auto player, and being geared even sorta correctly.

>>2001337
another nice part is most (all? idr now) of the gear mats don't take stamina in gathering/crafting or talents so you're not having to awkwardly spec carpenter to make gear when you want to do refining type deal

>>2001367
Yeah it's totally separate from the stamina stuff. You just need the levels. Gold gear crafting is a bit more meh, since it gets no purple line ever, but you get back that star mat when you dismantle, so you can recraft until you get the desired roll. It can be a good boost if you're just shit outta luck for a while.

finna be a shield knight and quit as soon as the need to swipe gets too high. 2xko is shit and there's nothing else I wanna play atm.

>>2001387
why would you need to swipe in a mmo

Is this classless or is there an actual trinity?

>>2001391
The trinity is real and heavily incentivized

>>2001390
it's a chinese phone game

>>2001393
but isnt this a MMO? or was I pranked? The mmos I know dont require you to swipe, just grind.

>>2001392
Thank god.

>>2001394
Have you ever played a f2p MMO?

is it true that dissonance is meta?
i just want to play a loli with a guitar and cosplay yuki nagato

>>2001414
Disappointing that there's a gap between spenders and free players. How big is the gap between spenders and free players? Are you cucked from ever playing DPS if you don't spend?

>>2001428
small, no

>>2001428
You can do almost everything but the hardest late game content. It needs a team of spenders, so you are going to be gatekept from it.
Also, you won't get all the rewards from GS events.

>>2001432
>You can do almost everything but the hardest late game content.
It feels like you're describing a gacha since i've only ever seen this said about gacha games

>>2001433
In some gachas you can do everything as a f2p. But f2p MMOs gatekeep you harder than BPSR. You can say BPSR is generous when compared to older f2p MMO titles. There are few exceptions to the rule, and BPSR isn't one of them

is this true?

>>2001479
Sounds about right.

>>2001479
Who knows. As time passes the only real advantage a pay pig will have is maxed out summons. Because eventually everyone will end up getting maxed out gear slots and modules. I doubt maxed imagines are going to make you 55% stronger. Will pay pigs get there faster? Obviously, but I guess it matters how much faster.

>>2001479
I think so? The big thing for the whale tier is getting extra modules iirc. Costs a ton for not a lot of extra power. Dolphins is probably BiS imagines, and small spender is probably so-so imagines, like a +3-5 gold and a +5 purple. f2p is probably a 0-3 gold and +5 purple. Might not have every damage refine maxed?

So let me get this straight. It's got an equipment gacha, cosmetic gacha, accessory gacha, mount gacha, monthly cards, battle passes, top ups, stamina system, dungeon tickets, rng stat rerolls, enhancements, gear unbinding and more, but people are unironically claiming it is not pay to win? Are gamers so absolutely fucking mindbroken that this nonsensical faggot shit isn't considered pay to win anymore?

>>2001542
To get Tina + Airona maxed out, buying everything with full P2W, it's close to 8000.

>>2001542
Lost Ark shelter is several blocks down.

>>2001542
I mean games like maplestory had crazy P2W too but maybe 0.1% of the playerbase spent that much and most people either whored themselves in town or quit long before the P2W became an issue

>>2001542
Who said it's not p2w? Only thing you could do is say p2w doesn't matter cause every class is over tuned.

>>2001432
What role needs to spend the least for it?

>>2001566
tanks and healers

>>2001566
Tank, cause you don't need that high of a thunder ogre, and everything else can go into Tina.
Or actually frost mage

>>2001570
Can HG can skip ogre entirely since they have the succ?

>>2001574
If you're on block and have a ray frost mage yes, but then at whale levels you would be expected to run poison hive for more damage. From what I saw, specifically that class combo is extremely good for mobbing due to the grouping and cc.

>>2001578
Now I'm stuck between block and VO while waiting for smite buffs.

>>2001603
Smite got buffed. It's really good now

>>2001607
So should I play VO (both specs are fun) or HG/SK?

>>2001610
Idk man make two characters, or choose one to be an alt and put it on the back burner for a while

is dps worth playing if i plan on being f2p? or would going healer be better if i cant compete with the spenders?

>>2001620
I wouldn't let it stop you.

>>2001620
This is the gist of it

This like represents the damage done by whales
______________________________________
This line represents the damage done by dolphins
______________________________________
This line represents the damage done by competent f2p players
______________________________________

This line represents how much damage you need to clear content
______________________________________

tl;dr: game's easy, it doesnt matter.

As long as I can play Dissonance F2P without being an invalid and bringing my team down.

>>2001620
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V38qW62inqo

>>2001479
smells like straight bullshit to me, you're not getting double damage from imagines and modules

>>2001479
>>2001704
This is misleading because the max DPS requires someone in your party to whale for +5 tina, not yourself, f2ps actually get really close to the max if they actually spend their orbs on imagines and not random shit.

Closest class to a paladin in this game? Shield Knight?

>>2001722
yes

>>2001723
okay thanks

>>2001543
You think that's a lot? That's nothing. Lost Ark had a weapon that cost like $20,000 to get and lots of people had it. You ever heard of maplestory?

Just saying if you're saying that price in way to suggest people wouldn't possibly swipe that much, you're a sweet summer child.

can't decide between iaido sb or vanguard wk... i wanna play whatever's the least easy and highest APM

>>2001745
The grounded spearman.

>>2001745
Iaido is low apm, moon is high apm, vanguard is definitely harder though

>>2001748
>>2001749
cheers

3 hours.

did the spreadsheet guy ever make a new one for what daily activities you can do every day?
i remember the old one getting closed...

Dude what the fuck is up with the /vg/ thread

>>2001855
most mmos are shitting the bed so anons from every general are swarming it in a melting pot of schizophrenia. it's like what happened to pso2g when the global version released.
just be glad that /vm/ exists, even if they will occasionally bring their bullshit over here.

>>2001855
>/vg/
>mmo
This combination is the problem

>>2001853
check rentry, he moved it to maxroll

>>2001866
oh that's the actual guy, thanks. i ignored it because i initially assumed the website was grifter shit and it wasn't actually OUR HERO bidoof

>>2001862
I see, still pretty wild

>>2001855
one guy spamming because it's what some people do apparently

>>2001855
/vg/ is the problem
/vg/ AND /v/ suck ass for every game ever made

I'm forever thankful /vmg/, /vrpg/ and /vm/ exist but they're often dead or really slow because most of 4chan's population prefers shitting down each others throats in a fast thread like that.

>NA server is run by crunchyroll
well that's not good

>>2001901
it's not

>>2001903
Why's CR there then?

>>2001904
some kind of partnership, you can log in with a CR account and get some free stuff, A Plus is the publisher

>>2001901
wouldn't it be a shame for the server to suddenly get nuked with no warnings

does anyone have the height comparison picture for max/min heights for each body type?

>>2001944
Nevermind, I found it.

>>2001928
Crunchyroll hate

>>2001947
here's a more accurate one

I hate body type stuff, whatever happened to male and female?

>>2001951
it's literally male and female, body type refers to the height/build in this case

>>2001952
Well that's good, Amazon games almost got this game for the west so I thought they might have sneaked in dumb shit.

Do any of the classes cover multiple roles? I like versatility when considering my options. Typically for example the bard could also main heal, the healer could also do decnet spell-damage, maybe the tanks are also strong dps or healers.

Also any build guides or general guides? Or does everyone default to shitcord?

>>2001961
the closest thing to multiple role coverage is picking a class with similar main/substats for early switching >>1974469 between substat gem crafts (e.g. Crit or Haste) and main stat overlap unless you want to farm for several gear sets
this becomes less relevant over time between skill books and modules and imagines and all of the other items you'll need to be adequately prepared for content, so it's more of a backup plan for if you completely hate whatever class you picked.

>>2001962
Is there a list of classes and stuff? The document near the OP requires access

>>2001963
official website or https://maxroll.gg/blue-protocol/planner

What class is Wolf Bow? I saw someone mention it as a good ranged class but the only ranged class I could find is "Marksman"

>>2001967
it's a specialization under marksman
it's good but keep in mind that a lot of the "this class is good!" and "this class sucks!" posts are using out of date chinese tier lists, which themselves weren't indicative of a class being OP or Useless because you can clear everything with the shitter classes as long as you gear up and learn mechanics
even higher end mastery dungeons (18+) can run without the objective "best" classes

>>2001962
I have no idea what all those items and systems are. I'm thinking of going Wind Knight, which I read uses STR so I can also essentially be a tank? No idea about substats though.

Also is Bow actually miles ahead in damage? That's all I see looking online. I do care about endgame potential. No idea about all the skills I'm supposed to click. But it sounds like I can freely change them at will to experiment? Unless of course they have different optimal stats that I can't easily change...

>>2001972
>Also is Bow actually miles ahead in damage
That was the old balance patch. Classes are all a lot closer right now. Play what looks cool or looks to have engaging gameplay to you

>>2001972
>Also is Bow actually miles ahead in damage?
It's misinfo based on outdated patches, and one retarded youtuber still clinging to it being the most op class when it isn't.

>>2001971
Honestly I just wanna play a ranged class. I'll likely take the best out of the bunch and roll with that since my only preference is "Uses a bow, gun or a ranged weapon"

>>2001976
Purely a coincidence that the youtuber plays wolfbow too

>>2001972
wind knight cannot tank, but it will have an easier time switching to tank early on in the game due to most of the equipment being shared. you basically have the first 2-3 weeks to settle on a role before you have to lock in and build modules
bow is good but it's overrated between shitposters and youtube grifters. every class is good right now so pick whatever looks fun
the main good thing about bow is that it's really easy to tag mobs to get kill credit for lazily farming in the open world for emblem materials

>>2001979
>the main good thing about bow is that it's really easy to tag mobs to get kill credit for lazily farming in the open world for emblem materials
You don't really need to invest into it for emblem farming though. Just picking it up as an alt class is enough

>>2001982
yeah it's more of a bonus thing really

I looked up a "floor 60" video and fighting looks like a clusterfuck with all the effect spam. How is anyone supposed to tell what's going on in melee range? Or at all? Can and do you just turn off all effects except the bosses? Otherwise trying to not get hit if you're in melee range looks like cancer. Or is everything FFXIV-red-donutified?

>>2001985
you can turn off player effects and a lot of stuff is like xiv with markers

>>2001962
Does this mean I can eventually play all classes? Or is one main stat per character? Because maybe I'll just be lazy and be a bowfag since you're only limited starting out if I'm reading this right.

>>2001987
small warning: if you turn off player effects, it also turns off player-specific damage markers like the spread aoes in goblin.

>>2001972
Even if the class is strong you won't be topping the dps if you can't play it.

>>2001989
You can play all classes. Getting them up to speed gearscore wise is a separate question entirely. It's better to only invest in a 2nd classes skills/gear/imagines once your mains are done. With classes that share main stat, or imagines that can be a short while. If it's completely disparate stuff like vanguard wk and also picking up a healer, you're gonna be SOL and should probably start a 2nd character for the healer

>>2001996
Yeah I could play 1 or 2 more characters (maybe just 1 at first). I remember doing this for PSO2. So just 2 per character, okay. Can Wind Knight pick up a tank? What can the healer and bard pick up?

Question for the CN anons, how important are modules? Are you expected to slot in 4 modules matching your role, or do you want to do a mix of 2 damage + 2 tank/support depending on your role, or are they mostly just bonus stats?

>>2002001
WK can really easily pick up tank since they share gear. Imagines aren't really shared but gear mostly is, even if there's less than optimal substats. Healers share with frost mage. If you're wanting to try out a lot of classes before committing, i'd hold off on crafting any gold rank imagine until you're done looking around. That's the thing thats hardest to regain.

>>2002003
Mostly bonus stats. you'd want 2 at 20, and more if you're lucky. 3 I think should be doable with a bit of luck, 4 is where it gets to be luckshitter/whale.

Are healchads viable as a first character?

>>2002008
Yeah. You might want to pick up a dps with the free class unlock you get at level 20 (which is today) just for easier overworld questing. Or find a friend to help kill mobs

>>2002010
>Or find a friend to help kill mobs
the healslut life

>>2002010
What can healer go besides mage?

Any /vm/ or /vg/ guilds have slots atm?

Differences between Sky & Vanguard Wind Knight?

The story feels extremely half-assed like it's going at a hundred miles per hour and not slowing down to explain or let the players digest. Also how come I'm almost level 20 already after nearly 2 hours?

damn chinks really butchered this game
i remember there was at least 5 hours of gameplay until lvl 10 or so and another 10 until 20

nothing fucking matters because you're just railroaded through, fuck modern mmos

>>2002104
Yeah it really does feel like i'm being railroaded to the end and I'm completely confused all the way.

And "Modern MMOs" is misleading because basically the only relevant MMOs in this day and age are just WoW and XIV. Everything else is either a gacha or something similar.

So do I just click on whatever? Do I fill them all out eventually? Is this resettable for free? I have no idea what to pick.

>>2002118
Yes, Yes for the base tree, Yes, Just be urself

p-please add me cloverdogs

was this written by the chinese or is this story lifted from the original japan release
either way it seems extremely awful. it's like a 13 year old wrote this wtf.

what are the essential "get this to rank 6 with your books asap" skills for each spec?

>>2002157
its the chinks story, just skip it

any pxdo/survivor bro? how's this skinwalker kusoge?

>>2002157
>it's like a 13 year old
Close!

>>2002169
>pxdo
Heh, I forgot about that one.

The game is worse and streamlined to be a chinese mobile game. More dress-up options at the start but the game looks worse at the same time.

>>2002175
>worse
how's that even possible? is the time-stopping lag still a thing? matchmaking taking 40 minutes? can't spawn named because there's not enough ppl nearby? does the gacha only work with paid-currency? **it pissed me off when scamco started pushing for that shit**

>>2002182
ignore the dooming retard play the game yourself and form your own opinion

this game is epic so far, seeing so many people in one spot is so exciting

where the fuck's heavy smasher? it was my main class. is CC not a thing anymore?

CHINKY REROLL STRAT RELEASED EXCLUSIVELY TO /VM/
Make new characters and then go to Muku Chief at earliest convenience. Use 2 boss keys. Repeat until you get a Muku Chief Will, which is about a $60 value item. You can sell it and then use that money to buy other stuff.

is there only 1 server?
i have 105 ping

>>2002241
Yup
US-east is the only server

What's with the walk in the park tier story to start with? Who greenlit this? I'm bored out of my mind watching randos treat me like an XIV hero.

>mundane npc with mundane context sends you to do mundane task to another mundane npc
>all meanwhile mucho texto

>>2002263
you're meant to press esc, this is the true mmo experience, xiv is an anomaly bro EVERYONE skips the story in every other game so they don't even bother

>>2002234
Is this more or less than a Meowlux Gold Vault Card?

>>2002289
More, but don't do this

>>2002291
Keep rerolling for the gold so I can get the hair it is.

What's the /vm/ guild and how do I join?

>>2002289
Almost worth 2 of them

>>2002302
It's a much longer time investment though isn't it?

Any guilds to join other than Yotsuba?

>>2002338
clover
tomorrow
mesugaki if you play as F1

so, i come from normal games, when is autocombat actually worth using vs not

>>2002384
it's worth when afk proficiency farming, otherwise just spam your click

when does the game get good
im lvl 15 just beat that one woman to death

>>2002386
That's the end of the game for today

>>2002386
>when does the game get good
after 2-3 weeks

>>2002360
I applied to clover but I don't see anything for tomorrow. Thank you.

>>2001985
It's how the Chinks like it, so we're just stuck with their retarded game design, unfortunately.

>>2002395
tomorrow is a random guild, whoever was shilling it either made it up or was too slow to get the name

This character creator isn't as good as I was lead to believe.

are we really locked at an hour of running around for msq and one zone for two weeks? wtf?

>>2002442
msq opens up daily

How do Life Skills work? Can I click "Unlock" for all of them in the menu that opens up? Or is it pick 1 only?

So is it shit or not?

>>2002457
unlock them all and then do the weekly thing to level them. you're limited in talents which unlock (Focus) crafts and gathering which are the ones you can trade for unbound luno and stuff.

>>2002486
yeah, but whatever

>>2002486
>run to msq
>menus
>menus
>gacha menu
>shop menu
>tutorial popup
>run to msq
>click on enemy for 2 seconds
>run to msq
>menu
>menu

>>2002527
Sounds like the modern MMO experience

>>2002533
It's not even a modern thing, it's been over a decade since that became the norm.

>>2002509
Oh cool ok. I'm guessing I'd want to (Focus) on crafts & gathering that pair up at least for now.

>>2002559
it's not a bad idea, lots of people recommend mining + refining since you'll need lots of those materials anyway and then you can sell some off type deal but how the market will settle we don't really know yet

>>2002559
You should spend focus on smelting and its requirements for gear slot upgrades, gem crafting of the color you want and its requirements. One in artisanry for burnt trees.

You can use un focused farming for the weeklies.

So do I do all the quests I can do now or do I save them for when the level cap goes up? I have no idea how fucking leveling works in this game

>>2002777
the level cap is because there's not enough quests for exp, do them all everyday.

>>2002777
The level cap is always 60

>>2002795
Ok just wanted to make sure I wasn't wasting them

>no jouji nakata
korede... owarida...
damn, chars are fucking soulless. nothing like feste, or even my bro jake.
>character customization's even more limited
ugh... story's whatever. so let's see the next big thing BP had going... combat? extremely dumbed down. no i'm not talking about auto-battle. blitz's marks? it's just a gauge now. aegis fighter doesn't know how to block with a shield. that cool shield dash we had? gone. can't suck enemies either. speaking of which, heavy smasher's gone with nothing like it. guess they had to reduce/remove enemy displacement skills for the netcode or to make the game less reliant on players having to perform their roles in their parties which casualizes it too much and sucks mad balls.
so SR kept BP's aesthetics (which will soon be replaced by chinkshit) but removed some of the few good shit we had. the lack of content's still there, just timegated lmao.
>farming's timegated too
but hey, at least they removed the grindy boards! so much win...

>>2002533
It's somehow even worse than it's been. It's as if you calculated the trajectory of the genre in regards to "do boring MSQ -> follow Skyrim marker -> menu menu menu -> BUY MICROTRANSACTIONS!!! -> repeat" for the next ten years, and then just designed a game to jump to that point now. Normally a game being "ahead of it's time" would be a cool, nice thing, but here, BP is ahead of its time in garbage.

>>2003038
>aegis fighter doesn't know how to block with a shield.
I don't know why zoomers and chinks in general are so against active blocking in video games. You'd think given the fellating of shit like dodge-roll-spam or parrying every fucking action possible they'd like shifting to "actively engage with the game to block attacks and manage your block gauge so it doesn't break and shatter your shield and leave you without access to half your skills for 10 seconds" as opposed to just "stack chance to block maybe" but here we are in game design hell.

Are Rose Orbs/Monthly Card/Battle Pass shared across all characters?

>>2003055
Nope

>>2003055
nope

>>2003038
og combat wasn't really any good though, aegis fighter was not a real tank so having active block wasn't exactly useful

cunny

>>2003064
>og combat wasn't really any good though
which tells a lot about SR.
>instead of improving, let's just remove it altogether
even the big dick shield which was fucking cool and decently useful is gone (maybe ephemeral constructs might be too much for these chinks). classes in BP were already too "dps'ey", but they made it even worse now, a bunch of them are just different animations/effects.

>>2003079
honestly disagree the original classes were boring and slow, the only better part was the ability to free aim ranged classes, sr classes at max level, max talents and proper stat builds feel way more fun

How cucked will I be if I play a DPS instead of a Tank/Healer? I was originally thinking I'd main Oracle but I'm the type of person who prioritizes fashion and there are NO good outfits whatsoever that fit the fantasy of the class.

does this actually have fun gameplay yet? or is it just handhodling erp simulator

Any necessary "dailies" to do for today and what's the deadline?

>shitty lackluster story
>suddenly over the top voice acting
cringe

>>2003106
the quests, 2x unstable, guild check in and delivery is it for today i think

>>2003112
Quests? Delivery? Also what's the daily reset time? 5am pst?

>guild
They're all full lol so ignoring that

>>2003116
quests as in story + the extra few that show up after you're done with them. some are daily based iirc, not huge if you miss them. guild delivery is just another guild daily you want to do. resets in 7hrs. in another few days we get the 3x commission dailies and homestead mission dailies

am i safe here or is the schizo here

>>2003125
oh so just quest & guild for now, alright thx. was mostly concerned about life skills (haven't touched em yet and they seem they'd take a while)

>>2003130
lifeskills you want to do the weekly for leveling them, and then make sure you don't overcap the stamina, 2k cap and you get 400 everyday. the weekly turn ins aren't hard but make sure you do it before monday.

reforge cap and i still can't queue gobbo hard with randoms.. it's over

Are the privileges from the Supreme pass worth the extra $10?

>>2003156
depends on how much $10 means to you
if you value $10 at anything more than 20 minutes of work

then no

>>2003165
I value 20 minutes more than $10

I really like all the platforming they added to the world

Why are my man's emotes and sitting feminine?

are any of you guys in either of the overflow guilds? are they okay so far?

So are all the 4chan guilds for this just full of retards? I recall Survivors being normal and pleasant.

Did they buff the npc summons because they perform better than pugs now.

>>2003242
The jp and VPS filter did its job well enough that the retards didn't bother

>spend 200 stamina mining ores
>nowhere near the amount needed for the weekly
am i supposed to just burn a shitload of lumo on buying these or what? the weeklies only give 10k...

>>2003246
basic gather from the ores, don't do focused gathering
i made the same mistake earlier

>>2003246
you gather some and buy some, you do it with the non-stamina costing gather option if you just want it for the weekly. the flax you can just buy with luno this week since no house yet

>>2003248
>>2003249
thanks, i was wondering how the hell people were saying the weeklies break even once you have enough money to get them started

>>2003250
if you're really short on luno you can gather more but you shouldn't be out of luno yet..

>>2003249
What is this pic exactly? Is this what every person needs to follow?

>>2001544
>everyone that critiques the game is from another shitty p2w game
i always hated this retarded tribalism, it weights the entire genre down really.

>>2003244
they are using the coveted p2w imagines

>>2003253
it's just an easy way to do the weeklies

which one do i pick or can i unlock them all?

>>2003258
you can unlock and level them all

>>2003259
which ones would benefit me the most as a soul musician

>>2002691
What do you spend Mastery points on?

>>2002691
What do you spend Mastery points on?

>>2003266
Sounds like the mages since they all use INT. See this post >>1974469 for shared stats.

>NPC named Maurice
>game calls him Morris
amazing game

When does server reset(daily) happens?

>fisher stream: this game is so enjoyable!
>tryhard stream: this game sucks
Who do I trust?

>>2003310
fisher stream
tryharder dismissing an MMO on day 1 in general is a fucking braindead thing to do, especially in a timegated one like this

>>2003307
midnight pst

>>2003343
>midnight pst
ty

Is there a list of what you should buy from the daily store?

What is the difference between Heavy Guardian and Shield Knight?

>>2003350
always buy gold imagine mats, skill books, and star orbs

>>2002101
>>2002104
It zips you to 20 but now I've been there for quite awhile doing other stuff. The main just gives a ton of EXP.

miss me?

>>2003393
I do. I apologize.

>>2003354
Is this from the Mystery Store? Which items are those exactly? Could only recognize the skill books.

>>2003417
This orb. Its locked until day 3 or something but its a good purchase with bound orbs, at least until they're not used anymore

>>2003417
>>2003446
The gold imagine material box is this. When it's in the mystery store, it'll be on a 20% discount. Ideally, you always have enough bound RO to buy it. The materials are pretty limited so the mystery shop is one of the best and cheapest sources.

Judging by the will wish banner length we're getting a full 3.5 months until season 2

>>2003446
you get quite a few naturally, I don't recommend it desu

>>2003249
there a map showing all the locations of these?

>>2003530
idk, they're roughly here, you can use the life skill menu to find whatever resource you want to gather and then mark it on your map to pinpoint it better. the shops are all just around the artisan district from the various npcs

>>2003532
Oh it's cool th emap can do that, alright

>>2003535
Yeah they did a decent job with that stuff, you'll get a feel for where they are after a few trips too which helps

>>2003540
there a way to make the non-focus gathering priority? I gotta keep scrolling down on the wheel to do normal gathering

>>2003543
Not to my knowledge, makes the baru kind of annoying sadly.. thankfully it's the only one of those that has a focus option

>>2003546
Actually figured one out. Hold a movement key when you first interact, then let the movement key go and press interact again. For some reason it'll remove Focus for a second, then it comes back but on secondary priority. I find it easier than wheeling.

>>2003575
I should say to be more clear, the idea is you want to interrupt the first interact so it swaps them around.

is the housing quest level gated or msq quest gated

I like what they did with the overworld to give it some life, but did they really get rid of the small instanced areas? Those were comfy.

>>2003708
The side maps? They still exist

>>2003700
level gated, level 40 which isn't until day 5

>20 posts since i went to bed
bros is the game dead already???

>>2003740
Oh do they? That's cool then

>>2003959
/vm/ thread bro

is there really no "claim all" button for some of those reward windows? guess i'll leave my menu full of notification dots (not for long because this game's ass)

>game is fellated for its character creator
>all the created (female) characters are ugly
>cutest female in the game is Airona
Not sure how to react desu.

when do we get the new armor cosmetic bros?

What class is the most autocombat friendly?

>>2003959
Yeah like other anon said, I foget /vm/ exists, and only come here when I'm playing an MMO or looking to paly an MMO.

>>2004514
I think only one out of the 50 gorillion awardslop menus has a "claim all" lol. Imagine being the chinksect chinktern that has to code that all so it does crawl through every fucking database or menu or list or whatever to grab and confirm all that with the servers and client. Pure chinkino.

>>2005188
Probably none in anything above normal

With the buffs to smite VO in CN, is it better than Lifebind, or still grief-tier?

>>2005242
Smite doesn't deal damage and if you build for damage you're griefing, but with it's talents it constantly spam regen pulses which have no AoE cap making it the best healer in raids

>>2005250
So it's a viable choice instead of lifebind now? That's good.

>>1996875
Play a spec that 's most compatibile with a wind knight

login servers down? game can't verify my email in browser nor launcher

>>2005250
What about in dungeons? And is it that much harder than lifebind?

Pugging goblin hard, so much fun.
How can people not understand the shield mechs?

>>1976242
is that going to be a stormblade or a wind knight? luxcavae

Is there a way to marry and have children with Olvera?

>>2005403
I dunno, but this cute girl at the tavern saw all the ludo in my pocket and now she keeps making this face at me. What do?

>>2005410
Put the Luno inside your underwear. Trust me!

>>2005423
But that's where I keep my spaghetti

>>2005426
WTF, anon?! Are you a retard? Put the spaghetti into your socks like a normal person.

Which frost mage spec do I pick?

>>2005364
For me it's tanking and people refusing to stand behind the boss.

>>2005364
solo it, take the shield, phantom dash after bouncing it

>>2005364
for me, it's the dps all standing on top of me when the tankbuster goes off even when i walk off to the side so the boss is only on me

>mfw some niggermage tried to run to me (archer) when he got the aoe buster
>mfw I constantly dodged him and he died from it alone
jej go to the tank shitass

Do you think the game will last?

>>2005989
Depends on what Bokura will do in season 2. If it creates new gacha imagins powercreeping the old ones, it will become like ToF. If it focuses on p2w and raidniggery, it will become like Lost Ark.
As long as they don't do something this retarded, it will last because of lack of competition (ToF died and mabi is too old)

>>2006028
But then what should they do? Should things stay as they are?

>>2006036
>But then what should they do?
The same things another recent Chinese MMORPG does. It's one of the most played MMOs in China, with massive profits each month. But they don't do any of those.
>Gacha is only for cosmetics and skills. But F2P can easily max the meta skills during the season while the cosmetic gacha is expensive.
>There are raids and dungeons, but f2p Gear Score can clear it. And f2p can't get gatekept because there are smart AI if everything else fails. The highest difficulty can't be done with AI, but the rewards are just comestic items and nothing more.
>There are plenty of social content and other type of content
But...
>Life skills aren't meaningful
>Open world is shit. It's like WoW FFXIV where old maps lose relevance

>>2006095
sounds the same as bpsr to be honest

>>2006095
name?

>>2006095
>>Open world is shit. It's like WoW FFXIV where old maps lose relevance
When will devnerds stop riding the nuts of the tranny MMOs

>>2006148
It's BPSR if the devs get rid of imagin gacha, add AI to all difficulties but the hardest, and make the hardest difficulty only give cosmetics.
Those and improve customization and other features. But BPSR has less than 6 months, so there is no reason to complain about those.
>>2006160
Sword of Justice. Chinkwank the game. They did a cbt, but it had top-up rebate to fuck things up at launch.
>>2006164
At least in BPSR there is shit to do in Asteria Plains

>>2006181
>add AI to all difficulties but the hardest,
They do this already in CN

>and make the hardest difficulty only give cosmetics.
They also do this for high level master modes

>>2006181
>so there is no reason to complain about those
about these* (customization and other features)

>>2006184
>They do this already in CN
So, for example, can I do 'Chaotic Realm - Tina's Mindreal - Hard' (could be any new CN raid) with AI as soon as it's available?
>They also do this for high level master modes
Using the same example as above, does 'Chaotic Realm - Tina's Mindreal - Master' (could be any new s2 raid) give any progression item in CN?

>>2006194
They don't release several difficulties at once, once the new one comes out they add AI to the previous one.
>Using the same example as above, does 'Chaotic Realm - Tina's Mindreal - Master' (could be any new s2 raid) give any progression item in CN?
Anything beyond M6 doesn't give any new progression anymore, and it goes up to 20, all it's for is score which lets you get some xclusive cosmetics for that season.

>>2006221
>once the new one comes out they add AI to the previous one
They could add it before that. They could let it without AI for a few days, but they should add before the week finishes.
>>2006221
>Anything beyond M6
Are M1-6 easy or doable for casual f2ps? I'm assuming they don't have the highest GS possible for f2p
>doesn't give any new progression anymore, and it goes up to 20, all it's for is score which lets you get some xclusive cosmetics for that season
Based

>>2006305
M1-6 is very easy, yes, it only really gets hard at 17+

>not only instanced, queue into from anywhere dungeons being the norm, but now having NPCs who do it with you and do 90% of the work is also the standard
>and with Gacha slop slapped on top of it all
honestly just burn the whole genre down at this point, shoulda been done 15 years ago probably but there's no excuse anymore

>>2006311
Then, there is no problem with master mode
>>2006320
The problem lies with players:
>Necessary GS to clear the content is X
>Players only accept 2X GS party members
>Players gatekept by other players stop playing
Or
>Someone fails one mechanic and the party wipes
>Shit flinging starts
>Players can't clear content and stop playing
Sure, the party wipe mechanics, or dgs/raids that need everybody alive to clear, are the devs' fault. However, to solve the problem of a toxic player base, AI is necessary.
I can't think of a solution for these problems without interfering with the players' freedom

>>2006340
>However, to solve the problem of a toxic player base, AI is necessary. I can't think of a solution for these problems without interfering with the players' freedom
The best way is to filter the majority of those retards before they get far enough in the game to affect others. These problems are symptomatic of a low-attention span playerbase, so removal of aspects like "directly queuing into instanced dungeons from anywhere" and "infinite and instant fast travel anywhere whenever you want" are the first things to get nipped in the bud. Actually, realistically, the first thing to get nipped is the retard in the board room screaming about mass appeal and how they need to get as many players as possible to make as much dosh as they conceivably can, otherwise it'll be impossible to convince devs to remove those features in the first place. Chasing these low-IQ mongoloids who fuck the experience up for others and push the game away from being the actual MMO it's advertising itself as is the reason things go to shit in the first place.

>>2006398
>These problems are symptomatic of a low-attention span playerbase, so removal of aspects like "directly queuing into instanced dungeons from anywhere" and "infinite and instant fast travel anywhere whenever you want" are the first things to get nipped in the bud.
removing QoL does not prevent toxicity. that's not even a zoomer take, it's so naive that it's a gen alpha tier take to believe that people wouldn't flame each other if they had to spend 5 minutes to walk to content instead of warping through a button
anyone who has played an older game is well aware of this.

Is Focus a daily or weekly resource?

>>2006705
Daily

>>2006738
shit have not been using it, it's over, bricked time to quit

>>2006749
it stacks up to 2000, you get 400 a day, you're fine

>>2006760
Oh cool. Still trying to research wtf I'm even supposed to be able to use them in. I get for gathering but no clue which thing to gather, and crafting is just completely a whole enigma.

Is there a way to see my fps without a video card overlay?

Any targeting tips? I want to be able to switch targets instantly so I can use abilities and string attacks + dashes to reach them fast. But my character, if I'm already engaged with a monster, seems to require being right up in front of any other monster to target that one instead. Tab/scroll seem to just (turn orange) permalock it no matter what so that doesn't help. And "Free Cast Mode" sounds kinda stupid and not really what I want, especially since it's just skills anyways.

>>2006028
mabi eternity is going to mog every anime game

>all this fucking research just to know how to spend the daily/weekly slops to beat the FOMO
I fucking hate this shit so much it pisses me off

Are mastery points purely to do focus stuff? Or do I have to spend a point in Baru ore to be able to mine even the regular version?

>>2006865
Afaik, Baru Ore (Normal) doesn't give you the item to craft upgrade materials

>>2006871
is the requirement for focused baru? I thought it was regular since nothing was mentioned I think

what the fuck is resilience break anyway and what does it do? I assume it's the bar under a boss health bar?

>>2007105
Boss CC
>I assume it's the bar under a boss health bar?
Yes

>>2007108
So wk is kino or does every dps have resilience break?

>>2007113
Seems kind of less helpful than I expected.

These Team Rocket antagonists they came up with are way lamer than the time traveling dragonchad in the original game.

>chink demaster is more soulless than the OG
shocking

How do I decide what slot to refine? I'm a DPS so I assume just focus on dps stat refinements? Or do the def ones eventually give offensive stats too? I don't even know what endurance is. Is that supposed to be fucking chinks translation defense?

>>2007276
focus on atk ones yes, but might as well max them all for now

>>2007282
Oh are they feasible to max all atm? Alright cool.

>>2007284
if you didn't skip the guild shop yes, otherwise you'll need to spend a lot of focus gathering and crafting

>>2007286
skip the guild shop? I don't even know what that means. Never opened it lol.

>>2007289
guild shop has a weekly 80 boxes for refining

>>2007292
Well is it worth it? I'll have to see I guess

This story is so fucking ass. Everything about this boat is beyond retarded.

>Battle Will
>select human imagine
What is this? What do I pick? Who is for who?

>>2007330
green hair for party revive
red hair for damage

>>2007337
I heard the humans are pointless for damage. Or is it that much better than ogre+shadow captain right now, even as just a stop gap? No idea how long until I get Muku chieftain or whatever other elite I'ma get.

>>2007340
They are bad to take as a DPS, but Tina is a huge damage increases for your party members

>>2007343
Ah so they're all supp imagines ultimately

>>2007354
I think the other two aside from Airona and Tina might have "dps" effects but ultimately they're worse than the world boss ones, and if you were a whale you would hypothetically just whale to buy the world boss imagines off the auction hosue

I'm liking this shit more than I should despite being a bit lost with weeklies and dailies. I'm following a guide for them, but I'm retarded

Main ways to get starforge orbs? Is this what I should dump all my honor coin into or?

>>2007570
unstable daily, daily keys, mystery shop sometimes, and honor shop weekly is about it afaik. you can buy everything limited in the honor shop with the 10k limit

>>2007584
hmmm gotta verify how I get honor then and see how it works so I can guy them all comfortably, thx yeah really wanted to buy all those materials out

>>2007595
you get honor from literally all activities
sightseeing and ERPing dont count

if you cant buy out the shop they will get stored in a catchup shop that will open on weekly reset

Tripled my unbound luno from selling gems FeelsGoodMan
Now, what is it used for other than buying from market?

>>2007779
>what is it used for other than buying from market?
nothing

>>2007779
buying bound orbs

Do gems permanently socket? Can I pull them out at a pittance of luno only or something? I crafted some gems but holding off on equipping them, seeing we may well be getting new gear soon.

>>2007872
Once they're in they're gone forever, don't bother using lvl 1 gems imo, get gold gear with stats you're happy with and use the lvl 3 gems until lvl 60 gear comes out

>>2007875
Oh, so what's the point of the lv1s then? Just to sell? Or I guess I should use them in my lv40 armor? I assume I need to make them to level up the gem crafting for higher levels anyways

>>2007876
lv1s are needed to craft higher lv ones

>>2007879
Oh I see that now. Cool, cool.

>>2007779
Damn I really should have listed mine in advance.

Did any of you here got to play the original JP version? I didnt but...

From the streams and videos i watched and rewatch recently, the flow of the game is dramastically worse; character movement and abilities dont feel like they play into each other smoothly other than for the sake of having abilities, and particularly them being spender synergies.
On top, very distinct chinese mmo design and systems. The daily level caps, the new unlocked msq progression and daily dungeons, the intricate and very interconnected lifeskills which are also very timegated. It's definitely a game that is only carried by the legacy name and not actually from what it is. Reminds me a lot of the chinese WoW, Tarisland, with all the timegates i mentioned earlier and is now EoS in less than a year. Chinese companies do reslly have their unique game dev that makes you instantly recognize its nationality like korean mmos, jrpg, western action games, etc.
I regret not having tasted the JP version for myself

>>2008044
>character movement and abilities dont feel like they play into each other smoothly other than for the sake of having abilities
that's JP version, abilities were dog shit disconnected, extremely limited, only when 99% of players left did they updare them to be more fuild but again it's still behind a colossal grind that would make any kmmo faggot piss themself to death
>On top, very distinct chinese mmo design and systems. The daily level caps, the new unlocked msq progression and daily dungeons
you wouldn't even last 1 week in JP, they didn't have various caps but the grind acted as a literal time gate as it was impossible to grind up at any decent rate to not get locked from literally everything, not to mention kill stealing was rampant and everyone was shitting up each other

>>1973991 (OP)
this is not a video game.

>>2008044
JP version was about 10x worse
t. played it day 1, got banned, and still made a new account
Pic related, an example of their idea of "content"

Is this game viable without a guild? I've already been kicked from two "casual" low level guilds and I don't want to deal with that feeling or potential toxic people anymore...

>>2008044
You can't let the chinks go unmolested. If they don't have a tard wrangler to rear them in, you're not likely to get anything good. Obviously you'll come across exceptions to the rule, thankfully, but most of the time that's just how it is, unless your number one concern is softcore porn in your games, in which case they're fairly consistently great.

>>2008082
day 1 of the jp version is far better than day 1 of the Chinese version if that's the metric we're going by

>>2008444
No? JP version day 1 was out of content in under a week, and then the picture was all that was left to do.

>>2008469
I meant literally day 1. you survived at most 40 hours until you got banned usually and the first 40 hours of jp version shit on star resonance. Base jp version endgame sucked ass in both pve and social features, but by the end of its lifespan it made a lot of improvements and very little played that version of bamco's blue protocol which is why they parrot from streamers or whatever and shit on the game

>>2008375
>Is this game viable without a guild?
There is some stuff locked behind guilds
>I've already been kicked from two "casual" low level guilds and I don't want to deal with that feeling or potential toxic people anymore
I'm sorry to hear that.Did you know any of the members?
I'm guildless too btw

>>2008506
yeah well you can't slightly improve a game a year later and expect anyone to care, they had to relaunch the game but they decided not to instead and let china deal with it.

so what happens if I bought the battle pass and monthly card again and i'm also rebating for a cbt rebate which includes my battle pass and monthly card

>>2008569
You get nothing because the greedy chinamen know you have as much control over your wallet as a grasshopper has over the weather.

>>2008561
I didn't, but I was amazed because I literally logged off to go to sleep and logged in as soon as I woke up, and yet they had kicked me. If lategame will be brutal/cruel like this because people somehow didn't "keep up", I fear for the future of the playerbase.

>>2008653
This is why I dislike guild spam in world chat. No sense of camaraderie
vm guild when?

>>2008678
Some anons of /vg/ told me to apply to the mesugaki guild. I'm waiting an answer from them now.

>>2008681
>/vg/
After seeing the thread during beta, I don't want to join them

The story and content in this game keeps getting worse and more poorly implemented by the fucking day.

>>2002399
its Tomorrow with a capital.
Some of your alright, dont come Tomorrow.

Are dungeons weeklies, or should do them just to get the first clear?

>>2008082
Nah I played JP even past 3 bans, it was a better game at its core. The physics and combat are more jank in this version. All the fucking glitches we have and still have is hilarious.

Also the imagine board at least encourages players to visit every inch of the world. It was a world tour with rewards. That's a bit different than current dev's obvious copying of modern wow/xiv garbage just sending you quest to quest to kill 3 dudes & talk to 3 dudes ad infinitum.

>>2009057
daily with a weekly drop cap for the reforge materials (used to upgrade armor a few times)

>>2009061
There was no core game though, you hit cap in a few days and had nothing left, they didn't add anything to the game for months after that either, I mean unless your idea of good core gameplay is grinding EX Rush 2000 times.

>>2009071
star resonance's core game isn't much better

>>2009065
>daily
Isn't just the boss battle a daily?

>>2009124
Oh my bad I conflated them. Boss battle is twice daily. Dungeons up above have the weekly reforge drop cap AND friendship points (run with friends or bots).

>>2009133
Thanks, anon!

Guy has been spamming red pills in world8 for the past 30 minutes keeek, whateve ryou say abuout the game, it's good in the long run that Kikeazon DEI doesn't own this shit anymore

Damn, I can't believe the catboy is [][][][]....

>you can send audio in the world chat
Grim

>>2003740
Now I see Windhowl Canyon is actually just the boar cave
That explains it

>chinka wants your money with this new tencent gacha
no.

I'm having fun. Are you having fun?

>>2010545
Hmmmm I think so

>>2010545
I just got KOed like a million times to the Brigand Boss even though I was dodging all the AOEs. I'm not exactly sure what was knocking me since I was never hit by the telegraphs and I doubt I was taking any aggro since he was being swarmed by people. It was either I was fine or I was dead. Friend said maybe I was too low level and just being hit by like some sort of passive abilities or something? I'm hoping that was the case and not that I'm blind because I didn't see any sort of reason to just instagib so often during the fight.

Clover just opened a spot if you're not watching 4444, message the GM if you're waiting for a guild

>>2010545
Yeah I can't remember the last time an MMO captured me like this.

So the Rose Orb exchange allows you to sell Rose Orbs but only allows people to buy Bound Rose Orbs? What the fuck retarded system is this?

>>2010823
Rose Orbs turned into Bound Rose Orbs after trading to prevent RMT and jank shits like alts funneling currency

>>2010593
the field bosses have an aoe attack with basically 0 telegraph that usually 1hits or nearly 1hits people a few levels under type deal

>>2010840
But the only reason to buy rose orbs is to get the costumes you can't buy with bound rose orbs.

Why would I spend 1,000 unbound luno on a bound rose orb when I could just open a chest in the wild?

Which frost mage spec did (You) pick?

>>2010861
It's cope for F2Ps to buy extra imagine gacha.

>Need 40 pig iron for smelting quest.
>Each pig iron requires one iron ore and one coal ore.
>Iron ore is only a 33% drop rate from nodes, even if you focus collect.

And all the life skill quests are equally insane. Now I gotta collect 80 rock salt at a 50% drop rate to finish the gemology quest.

>>2010892
focus collect doesn't change the rate
also they are weekly quests so that's justified

>>2010892
I get irritated and just buy shit from the exchange. I don't care if I lose money.

>>2010892
>>2010906
>he isn't addicted to mining like a true dwarf
ngmi

>>2008044
played BP until around the 1st anni. animations weren't much better than SR's, but i feel like they had more weight to it.
>>2009094
>isn't much better
it isn't better even in the slightest. story's worse. combat's worse. timegating helps them hide the lack of content... which bokura hasn't worked much on even though SR's a rebranding of a game they were already working on plus BP's pre-baked content. yet we still have 2 games worth of cash shop windows and currencies...
the only good shit SR has going are the aesthetics and the social shit, both taken from BP (which in turn stole from PSO or wherever).
>>2008082
common complain from someone who's never played the game.
>>2010892
are there no guaranteed drop spots?

as a tank, should i save my resources for crafting tina or tempest ogre first?
i luckshitted tina's will, but don't have the ogre's yet if it matters

>>2010939
>common complain from someone who's never played the game.
Where do you think I got the screenshot from?
People complain about SR but I guarantee if they played BP at launch they'd review bomb it to death and quit in a few days, just like how even the JP playerbase couldn't pretend like the game was good for very long when they're the biggest corpo dicksuckers on the planet.

>>2010944
i meant complaining about the skill board. classes didn't require most alpha skills, and after they buffed beta drops it was piss easy to have a good build. the game did lack content which was the main reason i stopped playing. other than that, going p2w and basically locking costumes behind real money (which ofc SR inherited), was the nail. even the shit servers didn't bother me.
>JP [...] the biggest corpo dicksuckers on the planet.
which planet's internet are you on? lmao

>>2010892
Just mine the coal and buy the iron you still need. You'll barely lose anything anyway.

>>2010849
Thank you anon, it was bothering me. Confirmed it again by just getting squished into the ground by another world boss. This time almost everyone was down every other moment, made me feel a lot better about getting turned into mulch last time. Really looks like leveling/power is kinda locked behind the main quests since side ones don't seem really level you, I don't mind that too much, even if half of them are slice of life.

>>2010942
tina first. tempest ogre is nice for master mode pushing but tina is nice now for vaults

The mobility in this game is so satisfying
Hopefully they can put out some actual large scale maps or platforming mini-games

>>2011497
i wish it didn't drain your stamina so fast, it's so fun jumping around like a retard but outside the city you barely get to it feels

>>2011501
fly drains less stamina

>>2010892
Sorry but I like how unfriendly the life skills are. Truly gatekeeping so only real gatherautists will do it. I like being able to keep my idenity.

Bless this thread for remaining for now. Hope people are managing to enjoy the game now that we've had time to sink into launch proper.

What are the minimum effect ssettings I can choose? I remember someone saying smething about not being able to see telegraphs on other players or raid mechanics on them if you have it all off or minimum.

>>2012070
that's a great shot

Is the void crab imagine invulnerability good or not?

>>2012099
it's not good, it got nerfed so it can't even cheese one shot mechanics

>>2012070
Fellow Sun seeker

>>2012099
it's not great but it's alright. it's a nice panic button for situations like tankbuster mechanics landing on a non-tank
when I tested it in the CBT, it was a bit annoying being unable to cancel the invuln early.

BPSR has been fun so far. Excited for more content. Pretty much fishing now to be able to run the guild caravan without putting valuable resources into it.

>>2012255
So what's the verdict? Hope protocol or dead protochink?

>>2012306
Depends on how badly imagines are powercrept.

>>2012306
Sounds pretty good to me, but saying nothing about the imagine system is ominous

>>2012306
depends entirely on how they handle imagines and gearcreep
the game is already heavily gearscore-based as it is

>protochink
Always been.

Honestly kind of impressed that it's impossible to find some bosses on 100 channels

>>2012869
>10 boar lines
>can average 4-5 kills because people group up in the same channels
>150 boar lines
>averaging 1-3 kills depending on my laziness because everyone just stands everywhere instead of trying to group up in the busy channels
I've stopped caring, I'll get my bracelets from the dragon on friday.

>>2012255
>rumors that they're redoing every single enemy's attack pattern
while the game is a bit on the easy side, the only enemy i genuinely despise is the crab because it feels like it was designed for a completely different game with how much cc and downtime it has.
i hope that they change the crab rather than make other enemies more like it.

>>2012892
What were you trying to get gear so early on for, eh?

>>2013095
It's fun

>got a tina in the gacha
>but still need 18 more of these things

Is there a way to get them without spending 100 dollars?

>>2013555
kill each world boss 6 times, then buy the rest with bound orbs, mystery store sometimes has them with discount too

>>2013555
Do your stimen vaults for a few boxes too

what is the current state of the gaem? Does it have a future or is it FOTMslop

>>2013681
fotmslop but might change in 2-3 weeks when china gets season 2, at which point it'll either be SAVED or dogshit

>>2013681
i belieb

>pvp event
Oh great. Time to get bullied by frost mage

I'm so tired.
How much talking do I have to skip before I finally get to the combat heavy bits? For every like hour of gameplay there's maybe 5 minutes of combat if I'm lucky WTF

>>2014522
It's always like this. It's metered out drip fed old-content. Your combat is your 2 chaotics + 2 unstable dungeons + 4 runs of Crusade a week + 3 runs of guild hunts. The story is just fully of jobbers kek

AIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE LET ME IN!!!

>>2014522
Every day had heavy gameplay if you played while the main quest was timegated. Take a break and do something else.

My biggest gripe so far is weapons having no visual difference considering how much variety the original game had.

>>2014932
skins lmao

>>2014974
I mean I'd even take some of those

>>2015029
Maybe we'll get more in season 2.

>>2015070
Axeman another str dps?

>>2014572
chaotics?

How do I buy orbs with CAD? I saw there's a trick to buy them with CAD for a discount.

>>2015424
buy them on the website, it just lets you change it to whatever currency

>>2015386
axes

>>1985259
I'm this anon from forever ago, the game is out and it seems pretty cozy so far but I forgot to ask how bad is the monetization gonna be? I never really played a "gacha" game and I'm not sure how gacha-esque this game is designed. Will I get filtered unless I shell out money?

>>2016137
You'll be okay unless you really want certain cosmetics which cost a lot of money, the p2w is there but when you play with a guild it's irrelevant as the game is pretty easy, the usual gatekeeping issues arise if you play with randoms.

>>2016143
I see, that's awesome to hear then, thanks for the info

anyone know what the drop rate on the shadow hunter shit is?
is it proven to be more common at higher difficulties, like master mode?

>>2016244
Extremely low, my current theory is that it only drops from bane, and bane almost never spawns in normal which makes it a bad option for trying to get it.
Not confirmed obviously but I've done 150+ dungeons, every time someone has gotten one it's been when bane spawned.

>>2016247
that would make sense. if it's true, I hope that the bane reward cap doesn't apply to it and that it only applies to the boxes

>>2016247
i got the shadow boots from a normal run without bane week 1, i did 20 gobbos with the bots tho

>>2016259
Well shit I guess the drop rate is just that low then.

>>2016261
yeah its got terrible rates but it's not bane locked at least. it's nice that the bots are super op so you can run stuff with them as a low intensity option if you want to half afk it

>>2016265
i wish the bots worked for tina, for me they always break during the clone section

>>2016267
yeah the teleporting out shit is annoying, you can still hit her as marksman at least though so if u have that unlocked u can run as that.. at least then the runs aren't bricked when she glitches out

>>2016269
oh no i don't mean the boss glitching out, i mean the bots literally just stand there for the rest of the fight instead of attacking the boss so it's faster to pub and tard wrangle them

>>2016270
ooh lmao i didn't even notice them doing that since i just tab out with the bots..

So the only way to get imagine craft materials is from elite/boss chests? Vault gives some maybe but I'm guessing it's not as abundant. Also of course the dedicated boxes you can buy in the stores. But as far as actual gameplay and grind go,in the sense of what should my gameplay be directed toward, is that it? Just bosses/elites really and the daily chests? And they either drop or you get a will you can dismantle? Is that right? I think the only other place I see the selector boxes is in the mystery store.

>>2015393
It's the name of the dungeons on the floor above, that aren't on a lockout for loot based on runs like the unstable boss battle below. Though the reforge stones and friendship points you get in them are on a weekly limit, but not the gear drops. I just do 2 runs as a habit to get some amount of stones/points towards the weekly limit (idk the forgestone/friendshipoint weekly limit but I don't think I can stomach more than 2 runs a day without wanting to quit).

>>2015070
>>2015386
>>2015459
Ah, guess it would be no surprise for them to bring back the literal only melee dd from the first protocol. I hope they change the animations though. It was too twirly and homolooking and I didn't pick it for that reason and went mage instead. In this chink version I did pick up Windguard because at least they also took good things from FFXIV and aped it for its good animations (it's even better than XIV actually I see where it also gets inspiration from whoever the animator is or combat director is I wanted to personally give props as I was thinking about it the other day).

>>2016317
The only thing I see to grind are the 16 'Exquisite Materials - Select' in Monster Hunt

>>2016347
I mean things you can get from the overworld and not the store I guess, hence including the daily keys as part of the gameplay grind

>>2016355
monster hunt isnt the store

Is there a spreadsheet for all the currency/tokens? this shit is driving me nuts

>>2016587
There's this: https://maxroll.gg/blue-protocol/getting-started/currencies

>>2016365
Yeah but that's a one time reward isn't it? I can't really include that when I'm trying to gauge how reliable of a stream of incoming materials there is

>>2016682
Yeah but you only need so many. 16 is multiple weeks worth of materials as far as I can tell.

145 materials to upgrade 1 legendary imagine
16 from monster hunt: 129
4 guaranteed and 12 chances every 2 weeks from stimen vault (less now since not all floors are released)
2 chances a day from boss keys
200k unbound luna from marketplace
400 borbs or less from mystery shop
dismantling yields unknown, wills are expensive (>1m)

It's hard to say what the drop rate for mats is from stimen or bosses.
Elites are way easier to make since you get the boxes from more sources, like the guild store sells 5 a week. They also only cost 80 total.
Right now you just want 15 or 20 mats to craft your imagine of choice which is why monster hunt is a good idea.

Spending unbound luna and borbs is the only way to significantly speed up the process.
I have no idea how many borbs you can reliably make a week, but even if you spent the entire ~10k borbs you should have by now, you'd only get 25 or less than 20% of the 129 mats you need.
I think you can make about a million unbound luna a week from lifeskills which would translate roughly into 5 mats or 1 min-price will per week, assuming you didn't have anything else you needed to spend it on.
A lucky will drop might be 1-2m or whatever they dismantle for.