Thread 2016603

The Server Slam (open beta) is starting in a few hours:

https://arcraiders.com/en/news/server-slam-info/

I enjoyed the fuck out of the tech test so hopefully the beta is as fun.

We're all waiting for EFT 1.0 though

Is that supposed to be a tranny or a dyke?

I'm glad I got to try it. Wouldn't have bought without a steep discount. Trying to decide between regular or deluxe pre order.

>>2016791
dyke probably

>>2016603 (OP)
man I was so hyped for this but after playing arena breakout I miss all the qol they have and it feels clunky as fuck

Man, did they not patch the game at all since the last beta?

This loot is confusing. They need more relatable russian tarkov things. Someone tell the devs their loot is fucking boring. I don't want computer tubes and cpus I want lootable sex bots. HEY DEVS YOUR LOOT IS BORING.

Been playing solo and loving it.
>if you squint it's a mgs extraction shooter
>every match turns into a clusterfuck at extract
>1/4 players want to team up, granted it's a no progress beta but the game wants it happening with emotes and too much loot to go around
>matches only take ~10 minutes
>ai is an actual threat requiring strategy and often times more dangerous than players
>audio is almost hunt level
Agreed loot is a headache but I never liked looting in these games. Hunt Showdown's the only one that grabbed me. But I love how dynamic the genre can be, unlike every other shooter that's never more complex than "see target, shoot target, repeat." Here I've got stories to tell in just 3 hours.
>getting chased by a rocket drone only to be gunned down by an extract sniper who then takes aggro, dies, and I force extract while downed talking shit
>running from a big jumping spider and finding a hiding guy who also didn't know what the fuck it was and we snuck an extract together
>absolute slaughterfest in the swamp red zone as 5-6 solos keep pouring in, bringing drones and it being impossible to loot without dying
>me and 2 rats ghosting each other at the swamp extract, gunning them both down in a frantic gunfight, allowing them to leave with me and we all apologize but the extract is cut short and one gets trapped outside yelling a muffled NOOOOO that gets quieter as the elevator sinks

>>2017638
The whole point of 'these games' is loot. If you want lame PVP you go play Apex Legends.

>>2017653
nta but loot in any looter shooter is just a means to an end, the excuse to PVP.

>>2017638
>>2017544
The loot right now is kind of fucked because they got rid of ALL progression pretty much. No upgrading benches means you can't use blue prints means almost everything you loot is useless. In the Tech Test when progression was fully unlocked you would be constantly crafting and upgrading and saving stuff so loot was actually meaningful but currently with how scuffed the Server Slam is you barely get even a hint of that. Case in point you can't Craft Raider keys which give you the alternate extracts that are much safer.

my impression after about 8 raids is that i enjoyed none of them and the game is too passive

this game was totally off my radar, only heard about it relatively recently
decided to give it a spin, see how i liked it
i played 6 hours straight with my buddies and then another 2 hours later solo
i'm obsessed
even though there's a bit of a 'dearth' of content, they sprinkled in so many little hints and clues as to what the broader game will include that it's only enticed me more. like a good striptease.
even with this tiny little slice i'm having a blast. the core gameplay just feels so right. fuck i'm gonna cum
sorry i'm not trying to sound like a gigashill. shit's just hitting all my buttons

>solos, guy comes running down hill chased by 3 fliers (because of the lure grenade I threw)
>"don't shoot"
>"okay"
>extract together

The clankers being actually dangerous gives it a whole new dimension.

I have never seen a more overhyped and circlejerked game than this rn. You go anywhere and it's just retards shutting down any and all criticism just or not. Making up people to complain about how pve gives you a micropenis and all that. Also it being a nexon project doesn't do it any favors whatsoever

>>2018660
they're only dangerous until you get real gear
then it's not that bad anymore except for the rocketeer and mother

>>2016603 (OP)
I tried so hard to like this game, I was so ready for it to cure me of my Arena Breakout addiction.
But this shit is so fucking bad.
$40 is unacceptable for something this sloppy
>All the guns feel absolutely awful
>robots are bullet sponges
>The UI is extremely soulless
>Needs team size matchmaking
>Decrease the invincibility window when down. It is ridiculous to win a fight then watch them crawl and extract not being able to do anything.
6. Most deployables are useless. Has a smoke grenade helped anyone ever? They're so small and short.
>Looting feels pointless with no market
>Paid for battle pass and cosmetics in a $40 game is an absolute joke
>All the characters and designs are hideous and ridiculous, but thats an Embark staple so I'm willing to look past it

Don't forget to shoot the weakpoints and not waste your ammo.
light/medium/heavy ammo actually matters when it comes to armor pen.

Enjoying the playtest, might actually buy in. Some highlights as an Apex and Tarkov fag
>audio is super crispy and accurate
>gear setup is really streamlined. Getting into raid is nice and quick. Been abusing the free kit (basically your Scav, but you can do quests).
>lots of incentives to get you to go into raid (free kit, chicken gives resources regardless of whether you succeed or not).
> overall, people seem more cooperative. ironically even it's free right now I expected everyone to be griefers but sometimes proxy chat can negotiate you into a group extract
>PvE is actually impactful.
I thought Embark did okay with The Finals, but I think they still are missing the secret sauce with that game. This game has all the right ingredients though. I don't preorder, but I'll keep my eye on buying in the first week.

>>2017821
honestly it was a pretty bad move to present the game in this state to the public. I get it's only meant to be a test but this is making many potential buyers get off the fence. Classic Embark marketing fumble.

Shame this game went the tarkovslop route instead of what is was before it got ruined.

why the hell did they make a pvp extraction shooter game third person...

>>2018929
do leapers have a weak spot?
and for the the rocketeers it's the same as any other flying bot, just that every prop is heavily armored so you have to really wail on them to take one down. right? or are specifically the front ones weak, like how specifically the back props on hornets are unarmored and therefore weak

>>2019556
leapers have weak joints and their eye obviously, they're just super tanky
You just have to wail on rocketeers, I believe they're all equally armored. It takes ~25 shots with a ferro to pop 2 rotors and down it.

>>2019586
tight
>25 ferro shots
dayum. i wonder how quick you could down one if you're all 3 running anvils. maybe with util so you can minimize the incoming assrape and maximize the outgoing assrape

>>2019594
If you wanna kill at as fast as possible you'd probably kill it from inside one of the building with big windows, crack armor and then throw impacts at the rotors

If this game was any more retarded it would turn into The Finals

>one of the first lines of dialogue from the main questgiver is "I wouldn't worry about other raiders"
kek are the devs trolls? Or just genuinely clueless? The whole game is nothing but mute murderhobos playing like it's cod free for all

>>2018929
Weakpoints don't do shit and in my experience they die just as slow as shooting them point blank in the face

>>2020049
>The whole game is nothing but mute murderhobos
Maybe if you're a mute murderhobo yourself. In my experience if you talk there's a 75% chance they'll talk, and then a coin toss if they'll say they don't want trouble. You will have less success using the emote wheel instead of voip, or if they've shot you badly first. But pretty much every time I've snuck up behind someone and spoken they want a truce. Probably the gratitude of not being shot in the back. That goes double for extracts; most are getting out with full pockets and don't want to sit around looting so finishing each other off is pointless. Even if downed you might as well let someone crawl in now that it's safe. Red zones are hard pvp but everywhere else on map is pretty neutral.

That's in solos though, I imagine it's less friendly in teams. I think in the full game when there's no free weekend tourists and gear fear is strong the prisoners dilemma will win out a decent amount.

can anyone give me a tl;dr on the free weekend? had to travel and my small time frame to try it out was wasted on the game not launching :'v

>>2020349
>You see, your experiences trump my own because I like the game more
This community is more retarded than Helldivers 2's community. Fucking swedes

>>2020236
You are just wrong.

>>2020377
what do you actually want to know anon? I had fun playing it

>>2020377
vertical slice with limited progression and one map
it's fun but also such a tease

>>2020377
for anyone who played the previous test it was a gigantic downgrade but for my friends who tried it for the first time it was amazing and they got hyped

i miss it already

>>2017821
>>2019448
I had great KD and a good extraction ratio and even I had trouble finding gun parts to repair/upgrade my weapons, mostly because we couldn't refine materials. I can only imagine how frustrated most of the playerbase (who suck and never played Tarkov) was that they were doomed to shitty weapons and gear through no fault of their own.

>>2020349
>the prisoners dilemma will win out a decent amount
anon the prisoner's dilemma suggests the opposite
that when you can't trust the other agent betrayal seems like the strongest choice

The aesthetic of this game is really unfortunate in how similar it is to Concord.

>>2020937
I guess I'll be glad then I don't let bad games live rent free in my head.

>>2020937
reasonable take
>>2020941
insecure defensive response

>>2020937
genuinely in what way
i only see an extremely superficial connection between the covers and maybe the splash of color thing going on
but even then "characters in foreground with other characters behind and/or in the background" is just the definition of a generic poster
the actual aesthetics of everything tangible is completely different, no?

>>2020953
nta and i dont know if you're being obtuse or not but all the combinations for character body types, faces, and outfits amount to the same gender confused specimen who probably takes it up the ass

>>2020960
no i am not being obtuse, i genuinely don't see it in the slightest
yeah you can mismatch heads and bodies and create mildly weird characters
in what way does that make their aesthetics any similar other than an extremely tenuous link through retarded culture war bullshit

>>2020937
I have no idea what concord looks like outside of player design, but I at least like how environmental design is in ar

>>2020968
>other than an extremely tenuous link through retarded culture war bullshit
>tenuous
i know this place is a haven for contrarians, but if you like video games you shouldnt be one now
also the best i could do was an afro indonesian-looking nigga since every other combination looked like shit. even then my character looked like he took it up the ass with faggy leg-hugging pants

>>2020992
>contrarian
you are in a bubble if you think my viewpoint is contrarian (i.e. disingenuous) and not just the other half of the discussion
i don't think video games are going to die if the pants are too tight or the selection of hairstyles suck ass
concord's designs weren't shit because of pronouns. they were shit because they looked like pure incoherent vomit, and it instantly died because everyone from all walks universally agreed on that
so yes i think the link is absolutely tenuous, because the games look nothing alike through any lens other than an extremely narrow culture war one

>>2021018
>>i don't think video games are going to die if the pants are too tight or the selection of hairstyles suck ass
me neither but even discounting the politics, if you like or even tolerate that shit you have awful taste
we had the same outfit, except my guy was indonesian brown and had an afro

Do you think the devs will crater to casuals and give in with nerfs and other boring casual shit?

>>2020992
>being so insecure you can't wear tight pants
Jeez man be more of a loser yeesh

>>2021079
>>>being so insecure you can't wear tight pants
all things exist within a context. you dont understand the context because you're a fucking midwit. the tight pants themselves aren't the issue, but the art style surrounding the characters who not only have bumfuck ugly faces and bodies, but wear gay-coded fashion without exception
>make a nasapunk retrofuturistic setting
>somehow find a way to make everyone look faggy and ugly
its my only real complaint. the gameplay is pretty good.

>>2020889
I only got 20 or 30 raids in, half solo, a few with frens, and the rest filled queue and I gotta say you're right that most people don't know what the fuck they're doing. I had to tell them to remember to heal so that they don't go down again catching a stray bullet, they wasted all their light ammo shooting armoured drones and lots of other little blunders that you'd pick up from either the loading screen tips or having played extraction shooters or even a BR.
With that said, I never saw a chad solo or squad the whole time I played. Lobbies were balanced so if you went solo or duo you'd mostly fight those. I ran the free kit/scavv a lot to see how far you could stretch a naked level 1 weapon and there were a few instances where if I full engaged a rando, I ended up with a better kit.
Last few hours, I checked in with the no-lifers on stream to see what the demo had to offer and they had purple guns found in night raids and were stomping lobbies with other guys who had purple guns and were intelligently using gadgets. The game has a lot higher ceiling than I expected, even without all the content. ironically, these things only come out when you put hard limitations on people, so as hideouts get built up and stuff, you're going to see more the same builds.
>>2020892
this is true, but I think the other anon is right that dedicated players who put money down will engage more seriously with the game. Also, the prisoner's dilemma assumes the prisoners can't talk to each other. That's the beauty of proxy chat. In tarkov, I've personally talked my way out of a fight because we both had a lot to lose, and fighting and looting the loser would cost more than cooperating. It's always a calculus when there's a clock on the screen.

>>2021078
>nerfs
I'm more of a PvP minded player so I think the bots could use a 10% nerf so they don't actually stop me from attacking other people. Otherwise, to make the game more enjoyable,
>solo
Maybe decrease or remove late spawns. Late spawns turn solo raiding into FFA hell where if you fire your weapon you're sure to attract attention if you don't kill your target immediately. You're way more likely to run into people at any time than during team games because single players are more dispersed throughout the map. I don't think solo was an enjoyable experience for most people during the slam.
>teams
Probably the way the game is meant to be played. PvP is "rarer" in that you're less likely to bump into other people at random places and times and firefights are more methodical. The most fun I've had was playing with a solid group with good comms and routinely stomping other squads to take their loot.

>>2021090
The boys are supposed to make picking fights punishing.

>>2021090
lrn2smoke

i'm so perplexed by the conversation about the PvE difficulty
not to sound elitist but do people really find them frustratingly hard?

>>2021182
I'd just rather fight people honestly

>>2021186
Then play the 50000 games that focus solely on that. Not everyone wants their game to turn into your retardo Battle ROYALE streamer game 1012225

>>2021195
Killing scavs in Tarkov isn't engaging and killing flying scavs in arc gayders isn't engaging either. But it's important that PvE exists in order to populate matches with comfy stardew valley farmer-type players for me to kill.

>>2021186
sure. i think the role they serve in the ecosystem facilitates that (among other things), and i think their difficulty is well suited for the task

>>2021197
Tarkov is a failed game with drug abusing cheaters that stream to their room IQ audience. That's not something to strive for. The fact that streamers are complaining about the robots is a good thing. They can fuck off back to their containment games.

>>2020953
the general hollywood science fiction B movie vibe going on, especially how the guns look like normal guns with extra stuff added all over.

>>2021229
who asked for this though and why are people making retro sci fi games

>>2021233
guardians of the galaxy was just really popular in the 10's when this game was conceived

>>2021200
Checked, but I think the big streamers were actually enjoying the game. Saw Shr*ud in the last few hours of the playtest both PvPing and trying to crack open the tanks and spiders. He and his guys were engaging with all aspects of the game as intended. Even his audience came out to watch (I think it was 20k on twitch, several thousand on youtube, however many are actually real). There's like one guy in here who's bitching about having to play the environment to get his murderhobo jollies off. I'm glad that there's a price wall and the playtest has filtered those who "get it" as a game concept, and those who should go back to TDM style games (which is still evergreen).

>>2020715
>>2020738
>>2020746
I'd like to know what the average game looks like, so like.. a round up of events that happened during your playthroughs would help a lot to make propaganda for my friends

>>2021240
fyi streamers are playing the game under utopian conditions (many of them live next to data centers in NA east-1 for example) against poorly coordinated randoms queued together so of course they're having fun and will promote the game. the vast majority of players will not experience the game this way.

What are some good extraction shooters to play while arc raiders is out?

Should I buy this game or wait till I can get an additional $20 to buy BF6. I'm super broke neet and it's likely that I will have to wait several months before buying one or the other.

>>2021281
>i want codslop
bf6
>i want something a little more engaging (but only a little bit more)
this game

>>2021286
I definitely enjoyed the playtest at all, but sometimes the looting around can get boring, any type of fps game where I can just pre-load a loadout and just run around reviving people or exploding vehicles is fun anon.

Arc Raiders is already super fun and engaging, definitely my type of game, I think it would be perfect if after a certain level/progression I could get better pre-loadouts that don't cost actual IRL money like Arena Breakout's quick kits

I really hope they add more weapons. There seems to be a lack of weapon variety, and extraction shooters tend to have large amounts of weapons.

>>2021242
my group are pvp enjoyers so most of our runs were heading to the R&D fight club and going to town until we emerged victorious and laden with loot, or died trying. quick flanks through the tight hallways, long ones by wrapping outside. ducking into offices for a bit of cover and a quick breather before executing the next manuever, good use of nades and smokes to make room for decisive tactics, it was some good shit.
the highlight run for me was winning a protracted clusterfuck battle, like 5 other squads or some shit. one after another, barely a moment to heal and reload. shit finally settles down, everyone in the fight is dead but us. we're exhausted of meds and ammo thinking we just wiped the server and as we're picking through the remains, in walks one more squad. turned the corner and oh FUCK THERE'S MORE GUYS. all i could do was dump the last mag of my rattler at them before making a break for it. down the stairs outside, over the railing, and off towards the middle of the map extract, praying they don't catch me. my friends weren't so lucky, caught out and both downed, but they understood the situation and affirmed my decision to GTFO. out with the bag and the glory, but at what cost.
towards the end we also started doing harvester runs, which was pretty fun. the money is pretty good but the loot's not very exciting as the best stuff was blueprints which require the inaccessible upgraded workbenches. still fun tho.
one run we saw a group of people trying to do it so we sat and watched. and at some point we realized they hadn't left in a while. some other squad was watching it go down as well but they took aggro from the rocketeer so we snuck in while they were busy with that, not wanting to risk fighting them and getting rocketed ourselves. all three dudes of the first squad died inside doing the puzzle after doing most of the work for us. fuckin' goofballs. grabbed their shit, finished the puzzle, and booked it out and down the nearby raider hatch

>>2021287
I can say with 100% certainty, that this is a 'flavor of the month' streamer game that will get boring as soon as everyone stops hyping the fuck out of it.

The grind is repetitive as hell. The guns run out of ammo after (what feels like) 10 shots. The drones are way too fucking strong. The crafting is extremely tedious.

The graphics are great. The sound is great. The immersion is great. But the gameplay just isn't good.

I'm a tad bit biased because the game crashed and I lost ALL of the gear I had been working toward all weekend, so just know that.

>>2021324
hi jared

>>2021324
I'm a bit inclined to go with your opinion as I really doubt that the devs can keep pushing out content at a reasonable pace, given that the last closed beta and the current release build are pretty much identical.

>>2021326
I'm not Jared, but I feel vindicated since your friend seems to have said the same things as me. You can't deny is either. If shroud, summit, and all those popular streamer played a fucking pingpong simulator and hyped it, everyone would be convinced it was the next big thing.

Arc Raiders is cool, but the gameplay loop is not good. Sucks too, because I was so fucking hyped for it too.

>>2021331
i independently played it without any outside opinion or influence and fell completely in love. i don't get this "it's just streamer hype" meme. i feel like you're plugged into that shit and mindlessly projecting it on others
also the gameplay backing that review was polygon-doom-tier

>>2021335
>i feel like you're plugged into that shit and mindlessly projecting it on others
Nah man, I don't watch streamers. Twitch turbo is expensive, and the ads are too much for me. But play what you want. I'm just saying that the gameplay sucks (in my opinion). There are no objective truths when discussing enjoyment.

Enjoy the game (if you buy). I'm not spending $40 (plus tip) on that bullshit though.

>>2021289
they fucked up by creating their own weapons instead of using existing ones
we could have gotten 30 different AR variants but now we will be lucky if we get 30 weapons at all lol

>>2021339
>>2021335
I agree with that guy. Some games aren't for some people. You aren't in a competition to have people play the game you're playing. He will have fun with the games he finds and you will have fun with yours. There's no struggle here. There are hundreds of games to play. We can all enjoy what we enjoy.

>>2021078
In a week? Little chance unless they're desperate. Considering the controversial choice to turn a PvE coop game into a PvPvE extraction shooter I think these devs stick to their vision of what's right. Last test was gauging balance and progression, this one was only to test the servers. Most crying for nerfs didn't seem to understand basic mechanics like ammo types or weak points, which could use a tooltip sure, but without progression systems we don't know how much easier upgrades can make pve. Personally I'm glad basic bots are more of a threat. In TT2 the weakest ones were just minor ammo taxes instead of disruptive to pathing or pvp.

>>2021382
>30 different AR variants
Why would anyone want this. The problem with ARCs loot is difficulty gauging value at a glance, polluting the weapon pool with rattler clones would only make it worse.

>>2021397
Honestly they should have a weapon system like Tarkov or Arena breakout so I can have 1000000 different options for my guns

>>2021397
>Why would anyone want this.
because its fun? finding new guns and trying different builds is half of the fun in these games
people already saw 90% of all the guns the game gonna have
from the devs perspective its also 10x the work because they cant just add another ak variant they have to design their own models which means we wont get new guns as frequent as we could have if we even get any at all

>>2021406
>oh fuck bro I just looted a SICK chinese clone of the AK!!!!
Anon just stick to more milsim esque games, your severe gun autism will be much happier

>>2021400
Go play Gun Disassembly Simulator nigga if that's what you are looking for, no one wants to spend hours jerking off over gun parts to play a damn game. I like the custom guns, it's creative and if it means we will have less guns so be it idrc.

>>2021442
that's because you're a no brain sheep licker

>>2021459
I could go for some lamb chops,,,

>>2021459
No, it's because I'm not an autistic fag that needs every single thing that I interact with to be about *trains*

>>2021476
Yes we already know you're a common denominator idiot that wants the simplest most easily eaten slop. Destiny 2 and other casual slop fests might be better for you.

>>2021490
See when I feel like messing around with guns to understand their mechanisms I go on World of Guns, and tinker with them and stuff. When I just want to relax and PvP I play a game like Arena Breakout or in this case Arc Raiders, except in Arena Breakout I don't spend any time modifying my guns. I have some basic cheap mods that I've made for my favorites and because I'm not an autist like you, I just run different pre-builds on the side tab bc they take care of 80% of the job. That's why my K/D, extraction rate and bank is 2x higher than yours.

I don't need every single game to have a tacticsfag, milsim autismo realism and modification element to it, it's entirely unnecessary. This is also another reason why guntards are so onions.

>>2021496
You're an embarrassment mate. No one likes people like you that throw themselves into a multiplayer game to be insufferable little twats.

>>2021513
Anon you've come to a thread about a game that doesn't cater to your desires (30 different ak and ar clones) and been vocal about this. You've started your own problem.

>>2021513
Please explain how I am, "throwing myself into a multiplayer game to be insufferable" The option of popular gun customizations that come pre-assembled exists for a reason. We are no different except for the fact that I take advantage of the existing systems in a video game, and don't wine and complain like you because people choose not to hyperfixate to your autistic interests.

>>2016603 (OP)
ARC Trannies

Which extraction shooter to play while waiting for this to come out?

>>2021724
Marathon playtest in 2 days

>>2021739
Marathon is disgusting

>>2021794
so true fellow body type B xister

>>2021082
>wear gay-coded fashion without exception
tell me you wear graphic tees and cargo shorts without telling me

>>2021898
I wear Old Money

>>2021953
dude you are not him
you wear baggie jeans and a hoodie

>>2021967
you wear tight pants to impress your dates on grindr and try to look the same in video games

>>2021898
He's right though all the characters are bumfuck ugly and the only "White" face and "White" haircut ends up looking like some gay russian which is undoubtedly NOT White. Which is still miles better than all the bug-eyed subhuman freaks that are the other face options and hairstyles.

This thread is chock full of actual paid Embark shills. Like, holy fuck, you guys are basically reading off a company document, that's how inorganic you sound. Put in some fucking effort, damn.

I really hope they double and triple down on the discouragement of pvp, everyone being shoot on sight with zero consequences beyond the immediate "risk" is old at this point

>>2016603 (OP)
What's going on in that artwork?
>basedface
>squish chest of water
>vagina crotch

It's Pat!

>>2022244
yeah embark is definitely trying to psyop the spergs who seethe about gay shit nobody cares about that make up around .001% of the people who might actually play the game

>>2022277
I don't play this game. You are a shill defending shills.

On 4chawn.

>>2022281
your post numbers are worse than mine so your opinion is automatically more gay and incorrect than mine. i accept your concession.

>>2022277
>gay shit nobody cares about
Then fuck off retard.

>>2022287
why would i fuck off from a thread talking about a game i thought was fun because you want to sit here and impotently seethe about trannies

>>2022290
Because you just claimed nobody cared. Fuck off retard

>>2022291
nobody with a brain cares, yes.

>>2022294
Which means you claim to not care, unless, by your own logic, you dont have a brain. Stop responding to it and fuck off retard

>>2022296
?

>>2022297
What do you not understand? Your appeal to triviality insinuates that you yourself do not care about the "gay shit" yet here you are, still replying instead of just shutting the fuck up without realizing that your continued posting about the subject only serves contrary that
Fuck off retard.

>>2022305
tl;dr

>>2022305
After a few replies, it is best not to cast pearls before (tranny) swine

>>2022317
Tru, they think being last to speak means being correct, which it isnt. But you know :^)

>>2022325
Niggers require such confirmation.
The don't need to be correct. They just need to make noise.

>>2022269
Embark are Scandinavian and half of the male staff enjoy watching their wives sleep with other men. They are great programmers and developers though.

>>2022338
No they aren't.

>>2022348
>Embark aren't Scandinavian
bro?

>>2022365
Not what I meant.

>>2022378
>Embark as a studio does not engage in programming or gamedev
???????????

>>2022325
>>2022332
you guys gonna kiss then?

Laffin'

>>2022281
>I didn't play this game but stop lying about having a good time you shill
I stopped frequenting /v/ a decade ago because TORtanic gave you retards a pathological desperation to grasp at straws hating every video game on sight in hopes of another dopamine rush thinking crying loudly about skinny jeans or whatever the fuck is enough to kill a game. But I posted my positive experiences in the hopes some lurkers aren't so mindlessly jaded.

Game's fucking fun. Haven't had fun like this with a new release in years. No extraction shooter balances PvPvE so well that it feels like the bots can third party you just as hard as players can. There's constant tension whatever you're doing, but it's not as sweaty as Tarkov where you feel bad about dying because it's so fast and easy getting back in. And when that tension pays off in friendly player to player interactions the relief is like making a new best friend for the day back on the playground when you were a wee little shit. Maps are beautiful yet it runs like a dream, sound is exquisite, game's going to go far.

>>2022631
I played the game and it's extremely overrated and overhyped. The community itself is already at an end stage point where it's denying any and all problems, issues, or even slight criticisms with pants shitting rage and hurling skill issues from their mouth at the same time. Your own tard rage even proves my point

>>2023050
What's a better alternative then, this is actually kind of good, why do you all have to say anyone that thinks a game is fun is having a "pant shitting rage". I played 30hrs of Arena Breakout but I don't even feel like reinstalling desu. I think I could easily play 100hrs of this bc it's not the same as every other game, it's a little bit different and it does look good and run smooth as the other anon said.

Give me a better alternative or shut up and go to another thread if all you wanna do is complain about people finding fun in a single game bc you have lost all the whimsy in your life

Why are the characters and designs so hideous? I couldnt even tell the white characters genders apart. Why is there multiple elderly women options? Who is the target audience?

>>2023078
It's the future all genders are welcome buddy. Get with the times.

>>2023078
>why do old people exist in the future
>why isn't the mad max future full of kpop idols with their tits out
>I couldnt even tell the white characters genders apart
Talk to your doctor about face blindness today.

what's with this insane amount of bitching about the faces? is battlestate giving you 50 cents per post? you're gonna be looking at your character's ass for most of your total playtime anyway.

>>2023138
Culture war retards wanting to go apeshit on faces and tight pants because they're insecure in their sexuality

>geniniely didn't see appeal
>people always say "just try it, it's better than it looks" instead of giving actual reasons why it's good
the only close to interesting selling point ive seen so far on the internet is some anon here saying it's a slight mgs extraction shooter

>>2023167
Guess what? No one needs to sell anything. Play. Don't play. It doesn't matter.

>>2023167
A month ago, like you, I got fed up seeing the nondescript praise for the game that didn't sell the appeal. So I dove into watching TT2 footage. The thing that piqued my interest was one post saying "the AI were more dangerous than players." I've played a few extraction shooters but AI were always obstacles at best. Going down that rabbit hole I discovered this used to be a PvE game that stapled a second genre onto itself. And I think that's the secret ingredient.

Because ultimately ARC isn't really doing anything new. If it were FPS it might look like every other Tarkov clone. But almost every individual element feels polished from a lengthy dev cycle that didn't sound like dev hell. Its greatest strength is the combination of elements: immersion. I just like being in the game. I think the gunplay is mediocre, but the sound and animations make it fun to shoot and be shot at. The loot is a blur of generic parts, but so many things can be sourced and repurposed mid-match. UI could use improvements, but getting back into matches is so fast. I felt none of the stress you get in other ex. shooters, but tension was thick in every encounter.

Fighting bots you're always nervous about players ambushing you, fighting players you're always wary of aggroing bots. You're never safe but the TTK is just slow enough to allow escape from all but the worst positions. It was chaotic and chatty and I love that in ex. shooters. The game subtly incentivizes impromptu teamups, from allowing enemies to extract together to allowing reviving of enemies. Negotiating, bargaining, bantering, it really sold the adventure vibe when other players were having a good time instead of acting like high threat NPCs. And frankly it's casual. If you die, you keep what's up your ass and earned exp. You're always progressing even when losing. It rewards learning and exploring without feeling like it'll inevitably demand hundreds of hours of mastery to keep up with the hardcore playerbase.

>>2023101
This was one of the most common complaints with the game, enjoy your slop that will die in 6 months

>>2023167
it's a solid, competent, and highly immersive. fights are fun and tense, all the guns i used felt good, and the PvE is actually really enjoyable, well designed. i imagine the loot hits harder when you are actually able to use all of it to make shit. also it both looks nice and runs well
it's similar to what makes tarkov enjoyable, without so many of the parts that make it actively painful and jank as fuck. that's really all there is to it. the core loop of raid -> loot -> fight -> escape is compelling and is executed well here, and the supporting progression feels like it hooks solidly into it

Has there been slight graphical downgrade since tech test 2 or am I going schizo?

>>2023167
its just really well made, a rarity for extraction shooters that are usually in EA and full of unfinished assets mechanics and jank.

I actually like how getting destroyed by some shit stain exit camping rat is more of an inconvenience than a debilitating set back. I die and lose some gear i always have a free loadout i can take next run. Might not be the best, might lose some good shit on that first run, but that's fine, i can immediately jump back in with SOMETHING at no personal cost. That keeps me from complaining about the literal singular slot for a safe pocket

>>2023524
there has been and the devs confirmed it
https://www.destructoid.com/i-swore-something-was-off-arc-raiders-players-beg-devs-to-revert-graphics-downgrade/

>>2023662
They said they're looking into it™.

>>2023246
>This was one of the most common complaints with the game
>wah wah the player models look ugly
yeah definitely that'll be the nail in the coffin

>>2023246
out of curiosity, what's your example of a good not-slop not-dead multiplayer game?

>>2023682
I didn't play the closed test, but I was suprised by how well the game ran on my rather recently built midrange machine. Compared to slop new and old, they knocked it out of the park with optimization.

Anyone following the "PvE" (read, no pvp. basically forced co-op) petition nonsense? I can see the arguments going in either direction. I don't think it will split the player base detractors say, but I think the game is tuned for PvP when it comes to loot and progression. They'd need a couple of months to cook the co-op mode if they really wanted to cater to that audience. It would bring in sales, I probably would play both modes myself, but I trust the devs when they said that it would get boring fast. Counterpoint: lots of PvE games like Warframe, or Helldivers 2 where you do the same thing over and over again. The only end game at that point is showing off cosmetics. I don't really want another game like that, even if I do like the aesthetics. I hope they take a firm stance on this, but I wouldn't say no to something like certain raids being forced co-op, but they'd be like dungeon raids or something. Whatever I say here won't make any impact anyway.

>>2023850
not that anon but within the next two years AI will be able to effectively randomly generate new maps every game and its going to be whichever game can effectively take advantage of that. One of Arc Raiders biggest issues with the play test was over camping. Randomly generated maps, won't solve camping but it will solve "over camping"

>>2023870
within the next two years the AI bubble will pop and we'll be in the worst financial crisis of the past 100 years

>>2023879
Maybe they shouldn't build the entire economy off of graphics cards.

so if you get a free loadout, what importance does gearing have

>>2023062
The thing is someone points out a problem and you shit you get angry and drown it out with autistic screeching and insults. It's the same shit that happened with Helldivers 2 and look at how that turned out. A game that runs like shit managed by a company that more or less can't stop shooting themselves in the foot t08t8

>>2023879
You are too retarded to understand what you're talking about. Stop regurgitating phrases like "AI bubble" without having any clue what they mean

>>2024248
i don't know saar i think a massive influx of almost completely speculative investment into a new technology is fair to call a bubble. it might even be the literal definition

>>2023661
idc what weapons i get on a free loadout, if I get the zipline then its bis

I wish they gave more maps for the final play test, these look interesting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doLx4nVFQO0

>>2024282
This wont make AI technology disappear or have any impact on its progress at all. You are a fucking retard

>>2016791
I think they call them trykes

>>2024227
Free loadouts don't even come with shield recharges. It's punishing for anything more than a 5 minute material run, though with field crafting and knowledge of hideouts/supply beacons/buried cache modifiers you can gear up quick. But in the full game medium/heavy shields will be more common and you'll be at a disadvantage.

>>2024246
The thing is you're not constructing an argument here, only resorting to passive aggression or deflection the instant someone gets called a retard for arguing it's a tranny game because you can play as an old person. You don't seem to have a grasp on why games succeed or fail, as evidenced here with you citing Helldivers 2, specifically drawing a comparison to performance. Most of us played Arc and its performance is outstanding. Can you name examples of Embark shooting themselves in the foot? Why are you moving the goalposts all the way to Arrowhead other than because you have nothing to say?

Helldivers 2 was completely under the radar going in, had no public playtest, and had immediately apparent balance issues like the bottleneck chargers became when the most efficient way to kill them was to un-intuitively shoot their heavily armored legs off instead of their squishy asses when they slam into walls. The most common "balance issue" in Arc's playtest is players dumping mags of light ammo into the armored parts of a bot. Despite the 2nd quest telling you rotors are their weak points and ammo descriptions telling you what they're for. The game isn't without its issues but I don't see the trolls here listing them. Just the usual culture war bullshit and self-indulgent cynicism devoid of specifics.

>>2024453
uhh yeah, no shit
we still have websites and web services after the dot-com bubble
the continued existence of the technology or its practical applications has nothing to do with whether or not the market is forming a bubble around it
this sounds like you have some caricature about me in your mind, that i'm some AI-hating neo-luddite so you're going straight tribal like the third-worlder brown that you are
i'm speaking just literal facts mongoloid. there has been no judgement on AI as a technology in my posts, just observations about the current state of the market. do the needful and kill yourself please

>>2024465
>we wont have ai generated maps because AI in le bubble
Off yourself immediately

>>2024518
illiterate
last (you)

AIniggers tongue my anus

they tongue MY anus too!!!

I hope the PvE is even scarier in solo. I like the idea that PvP makes the mobs all run towards to fight, especially if a flare goes off...

>>2024751
the arc's awareness felt overtuned at times and really dumb at other times. There aught to be some kind of way to tell what level of awareness the Arc is at between patrolling, searching, and in kill mode.

>>2023858
pvp is unbelievably boring and dysfunctional in this game tho

it's clearly a last minute add on the devs didn't plan the rest of the game around

>>2024896
Their lights? Blue yellow and red?

>>2023142
>faces
I've used the same face in the FINALS since day 1 and plan to use it in Arc Raiders too and no one can stop me

Should I get the Deluxe edition?

>>2025314
there's no gameplay incentive. you just get some skins and i think, though i'm not certain what the exchange rate is, like $24 worth of premium currency for the in-game store (which is also just cosmetics)
the value is fair numbers-wise but the actual value lies entirely within your opinion on the cosmetics, part of the pack and in the store.

>>2025330
Will the cowboy cosmetic be available for purchase at a later date?

>>2025335
i believe so. the deluxe edition will probably always be there and they'll likely add a way to upgrade to it from standard, so you can get the valente outfit later.
the pre-order bonus, the astro suit, i don't know if that one will become available for purchase later on. usually a pre-order bonus like that is set up to be 'rare', as in that's the one and only way to get that cosmetic

>>2025339
Thanks, I think I might go for it, as I can buy the battle pass with the coins, and stunt on all the newbies with my ultra rare cosmetics :)

I can't wait for this game, I've been watching people's videos of them during the playtests.

>>2025314
I looked at it, the only real thing worth it from that is the tokens? why iirc are used to purchase stuff like gear but mostly cosmetics. But even that, its really just a bundle of cosmetics that cost HALF the game..

>>2025639
I think you can buy about 2-3 battle passes with the in-game credits, and that would cost you about $20 anyways after the game launches. So in reality it's for players who are gonna buy the battle pass already with the added incentive of getting additional cosmetics. I'm gonna defend the price as I still think it's too expensive. Sadly, this is like standard pricing for all games when it comes to additional content. I do see that at least here the battle pass actually does give you items and weapons, not just cosmetics.

>>2026112
I'm not gonna defend***

>>2026136
get someone from ukraine to gift it to you and just pay him the equal cost, I'd say at that price point its fair.

>>2026140
I already bought the Deluxe Pre-order :^)