Anyone get in the beta for this?
Closed beta test invites went out with preload on February 17, 2025, 12:00 (UTC+8) and Beta test from February 20, 2025 10:00 to February 28, 2025 12:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrNCEl5Tq-4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgWQPdzehQA
They also had an interview here
Important points is that all weapons can be equipped by all characters and every character can equip a ranged and melee weapon at the same time.
There will be ZERO gear RNG in this game with all the gear being farmable and all weapons can be crafted including 5-star weapons.
>>1685489>There will be ZERO gear RNG in this game with all the gear being farmable and all weapons can be crafted including 5-star weapons.That's sounds nice but there has to be something to keep the grind going or else they'll bleed out players fast.
>>1685487 (OP)I got in, will make some review near the end of the beta.
>>1685558That's just them saying nicely that you will have to grind non stop for months to craft them, with some heavy time gated materials or contents.
>>1686717Lucky anon, hope you have fun.
This game must be one of the most "Wait and see if it sucks or not", Warframe+gacha has the possibility to be the most cancerous thing possible. The alpha way back looked promising, hope that it scratches the itch more than The First Descendant did.
>>1685558Since the game is copying a lot of things from Warframe, and based on the menus shown in the devstream, I'm expecting this journey:
>blueprints as enemy/boss drops (since you need to "collect" them), or possibly locked behind timegates like in Warframe (for example, a daily cap on the specific currency used to buy blueprints and other items from a specific faction/town/etc)>material grinding to craft the weapon (mentioned in the devstream)>crafting times (3 hours for 5*/gold-tier weapons, based on the devstream)>lots of demon wedges to farm (stat-boosting gems, stuff like weapon damage, reload speed, spell range, etc. you can equip 8 of them per weapon/character by default)>wedge exp grinding (to increase the effects above, up to 5 levels)>weapon exp grinding (to increase the weapon's base stats and wedge cap, up to 60 levels)>some stupid grind to unlock that locked 9th wedge slotYou don't need to level wedges for every weapon you craft, at least (the devstream shows the same wedge being be equipped on multiple weapons). Characters also have their own wedges so you also need to grind them if you want that infinite MP build for your katana-wielding tentacle loli. You probably need to grind wedges for the tiny flying companions too.
Warframe have some other grindy systems that increases the time you spend powering-up a single weapon/character/flying-mascot (formas, rivens, shards, etc), and I expect DNA to include them eventually (or turn them into gacha content).
>>1686834I don't want to expect much from this game, I'll likely disappoint myself expecting the moon.
My hopes for this game are something playable, something fun. I don't mind if they do a character gacha and probably would be healthier for the game in the long run since it would be the best way to fund the game but I hope the income is good enough for me to roll everyone I want to.
>>1686834That eternal grind sucks but I'll take it over Mihoyo's cancerous multi-RNG bullshit. I just hope the gameplay and shooting are good, we don't get many anime shooters nowadays
I got into the CBT, you can see some of the gacha banners in the events tab in the menu. Most of it is the same as recent Mihoyo gachas (HSR/ZZZ), with stuff like discounted beginner banner and standard banner, but there is one new and very important banner: a 100% limited rateup banner that closes once you get the character.
So basically you are guaranteed to get one copy of every character with no 50/50 bullshit unless you go for dupes, assuming they do it for every new character.
>>1687182I guess this confirms it'll be gacha. At least this means a revenue stream is secured and it won't particularly die, so now I just hope the income is good.
>>1687187Forgot to mention it but they also have weapon banners. We can't see the rates yet but I'm assuming they're gonna be close to HSR and the like. There is no one time 100% rateup banner for the weapon banner however.
>>1685487 (OP)Yes, I've been shilling the game on /v/ for a while now.
>>1685558>all weapons can be crafted including 5-star weaponsDoubt this is true since there are limited weapons that don't even get into the standard pool.
>>1687201Yeah I could maybe see standard weapons being craftable but there's no way 5* signatures will be craftable
>>1687203The interview said all weapons would be craftable so they'd be lying then. Maybe it's copied from warframe where you can either gacha for the wep or grind it the hard way? We'll see in a few days at least
>>1687208I don't recall them explicitly saying you can craft ALL weapons.
>>1687215https://youtu.be/rgWQPdzehQA?si=2BWvtLXEPh6jo8NT&t=765
>And here's the kicker --- Even event exclusive five-star weapons will be craftable in the future>Mark this down everyone! Even event exclusive five-star weapons can be crafted -- No more FOMO!
>>1687223Fair enough but...
>in the futureThis could mean anything. This could mean they will be craftable months or even a year after release, in which case it would be a worthless feature for people actively playing the game and it would mostly just be a nice catch-up system for new players.
>>1687228The fomo will be from the characters anyway. I assume they'll just let you either grind it or skip the grind and roll for it.
>>1687223>Event Exclusive>EventIt's just a weapon from time-limited event. They're not saying "You can craft ALL weapons". So these guys are correct
>>1687201>>1687203
>>1687229But for characters we will have 100% rate-ups, so unless they have ultra-low rates like 0.1% with no pity or mihomo-esque whalebait dupes where having a certain number of copies of a character completely changes it, then characters will be fairly easy to acquire.
Anyways, I was hoping this would not be a gacha game but I'm not entirely against gacha. I think it can be done reasonably and it can be fun when it is done as such and for the time being I will remain optimistic.
Even with the gacha, the game looks pretty promising.
>>1687233"events" are how they call banners, so an "event exclusive weapon" could mean a gacha weapon
>>1687233"Events" are how they call banners in any game.
Banners is just a slangish term by players to differentiate between events and well, gacha banners.
>>1687243>>1687247I think you both have consumed too much copium. Let's see how you cope in two days.
>>1687255If you wanna doom it and laugh with your bros then I suggest a /v/ thread or maybe any of the gacha drama generals in here.
This one is just for discussing the upcoming beta test.
>>1687260I'm just laughing at gacha newbie that'll have their rude awakening. No one will roll on weapon banner if they can be crafted, newbie bro.
>>1687270>>1687255https://www.hoyolab.com/article/36843932
>Eventhttps://wutheringwaves.kurogames.com/en/main/news/detail/2142
>During the eventhttps://x.com/NIKKE_en/status/1889872150577787333
>Eventhttps://forum.nexon.com/bluearchive-en/board_view?board=3218&thread=2731844
>EventSeems to me you're the newbie here.
Come back when you manage to pull out your head from your own ass and are willing to discuss things with people instead of acting like you're so above everyone else. Or not since you're probably this insufferable with everyone else that has the misfortune to cross paths with you.
>>1687237>But for characters we will have 100% rate-ups, so unless they have ultra-low rates like 0.1% with no pity or mihomo-esque whalebait dupes where having a certain number of copies of a character completely changes it, then characters will be fairly easy to acquireYou are missing the other possible option, I think: abysmally low number of rolls that forces you to skip a lot of characters/fork money to actually get people. Actual pull income will be important to gauge how bearable playing will be in the long run, but unfortunately that's not really something we'll be able to really tell from the beta considering it's be more of a long time thing including events/random gibs etc.
>>1687277You newbie even coping that this isn't a gacha game, lmao.
Is there a chance that they make signature weapon craftable? Sure, but it'll be at least 2 years after its banner end.
Now. Let me ask you about this, newbie. Why should I roll for a weapon banner if I can just craft them? Especially if you can craft them before they fall out of relevance.
I'm just being realistic here. Well, We'll see in two days anyway.
>>1685487 (OP)Looks fun. Will it be on play store? I have been looking for some new game to play from the start.
>>1688208Yeah, it's gonna be on PC and mobile, no release date yet though
>>1687182honestly this is how all future gacha games should do it
one free copy of the character and lock the stat boosts or gimmicks behind dupes
I want to play anime warframe
>>1688224there are a few existing gacha games that already do it like PGR and Snowbreak but man I wish it was more widespread, the 50/50 coin flip system is a blight.
>>1687182>only oncesnowpeak won once again
>>1688313Stop wandering outside of your Chinese roleplay thread.
>>1687182Does it carry over?
>>1688339I think it does. The weapon and character banners all say something like pic related. I'm interpreting it as "pity carries over, but isn't shared between different banners types". This notably means that the 100% banners and 50/50 banners have separate pities.
>>1688284>the 50/50 coin flip system is a blight.It's better than the alternatives. Gachas before hoyoshit had worse gacha systems if you can believe it so 50/50 with carry over pity is honestly the best we've had it so far.
>Thought the beta started today
>It's tomorrow
I may be a little too impatient
>>1688388Yeah. It's 24 hours from now.
>>1688358So it's just as shit as endfield.
From reading the notices, it seems that there's a Beginner Chrono. 50 rolls, any standard 5* from it, very standard. This beginner event will close once it's been all used up with no time limit.
There's the Standard Chrono called Sojurns entwined that acts like every other standard banner you've ever seen. Sojurns Entwined is a permanent event.
Weapon Chrono containing the Event weapon called "Harvest month". The exclusive 5-star weapon will not be added to the standard chrono after the event ends.
Two character Chronos, one called a "Destined Chrono" with 100% rate up. The count of retraces made without obtaining a 5-star character in any Destined Chrono will accumulate but does not carry over to other TYPES of chrono. During the chrono event, your first 5* character is guaranteed to be the featured character and then this pool will close.
Then there's the regular "Exclusive Event Chrono" without the 100% guarantee.
For added context, "Chrono" is how they call their "Banners". Retraces are rolls and it does not explain how their gacha works at all and just points you towards the "Retrace" section in game except that we can't access said section yet.
All retraces accumulate and carry over within the same type of Chrono but does NOT carry over to other types of Chrono. Meaning that your rolls between Weapon, Destined and Limited char banner are 3 completely different pities.
>>1688402Endfield doesn't have the 100% guarantee banner so it's already way better
>>1688402Literally every banner carries pity over, all it says is that doing 10 pulls on the weapon banner won't increase your pity on the character banner and vice versa
>>1688446Endfield guarantee is in 120 pulls of that banner. If DNA has lower guarantee, then yeah it's better.
>>1688446>>1688448>destined (the one with 100%) does have carry overI just read
>>1688410 sorry. It is actually a good middle ground.
>>1688402No, Endfield doesn't have a a 100% rate-up, it guarantees the character at 120 but you can still lose any amount of 50/50 before that.
100% rate-up means that if you get lucky and get an SSR in your first 10-roll, it's already guaranteed to be the rate-up.
Also, the weapons in this game will be craftable, even the limited ones which has been confirmed in the dev stream.
This game is looking to become the first non-scummy gacha game ever made. At least in the post-mihomo world.
>>1688564>This game is looking to become the first non-scummy gacha game ever madeLimbus already exists. Although it certainly doesn't have the same production values.
>>1689053>Limbus already existHow's your eternal slaving at mirror dungeon going?
>>1689072I mean I have every unit in the game by winrating though mirror dungeon once a week and literally not logging in for the rest of the week so I'd say it's going pretty good
>>1689074I'd love to see a non-menu/VN gacha doing what limbus does but that would be a huge gamble.
where have I seen these before
Just got to the gacha screen, the TLDR is that it's basically Genshin except you have a 100% guarantee on both the character banner and the weapon banner.
>0.6% 5* rate, 5% 4* rate. Slightly higher rates on weapon banner.
>90 pity on characters, 80 on weapons.
>One time 100% rateup for limited characters, 50/50 for dupes after that.
>Limited weapons are always 100% guaranteed, no 50/50.
>Beginner banner that guarantees a 5* standard character with discounted pulls. Also all the standard are female so you can't brick your account.
First thoughts, the optimization is dog dude. Every other game you've played runs better guaranteed. No DLSS either which sucks.
Will likely be better on launch since this is like the 1st or 2nd CBT but I wanted to make that complaint.
Also, no controller support in the CBT. That also sucks ass, why couldn't they just add some basic controller support?
>>1689598Yeah I have a pretty good PC and I still get slowdowns and stutters. The game doesn't look amazing either.
>>1689601It's an early closed beta so we're quite literally beta testing for them, just make sure to complain about it in the feedback I guess.
Another notable point is that dodge points are limited so no schmooving like warframe. They recover pretty fast though but you can't just dodge several times in a row.
Helix leaps seem to not count towards this "Dodge" counter so you can indeed pretend you're playing warframe and move exclusively by bullet jumping.
Post some impressive looking in game screenshots
bro they copied the grineer hack puzzle
thats hilarious
First thoughts after like 1 hour
>Graphics are mid, a bit worse than Genshin. Character models and textures need work.
>Gameplay is a dumbed down, slower Warframe. No sprinting which is odd. Movement feels a bit slow and stiff for me even with bullet jumps. Melee and skills feel nice, ranged lacks recoil.
>Story exists I guess, doesn't seem offensively bad. Your dialogue choices actually seem to matter though and they keep the yapping to a minimum which is nice.
>Music is actually really good, best part of the game so far for me.
>EN dub is decent, all British cast, voices match the characters and the acting isn't bad.
>PC settings are fairly extensive but could be better, can't go higher than 60 FPS and some keys like movement keys can't be rebound.
>>1689615The graphics are where you notice this is definitely an early beta. The performance and optimization is MH wilds tier.
>>1689616oh yeah optimization definitely needs work but it is expected of a beta I guess. However they really need to improve the character models, blurry textures and blocky models on the main selling point of the game is insane
The music and voice acting really is great.
The story's better than other recent gacha intros in my opinion. Not gonna name names for dumb tribalism because I just wanted to say it's nice, it's not amazing or terrible, just enjoyable.
Choices seem to actually matter? Instead of doing the other game thing where you get 3 lines of text and they're not choices but MC actually saying all 3 at the same time.
this game really feels like if genshin and warframe had a baby
>>1689627Some quests are locked behind impression checks where you roll like 2 d20s or something to unlock them. You can use the corresponding impression stat to add a modifier to the roll to increase your odds at succeeding
>>1689632Pretty much. It needs more polish but it has potential
The combat is far more satisfying than other open world gachas. The two we're thinking of but don't want to name right now have somewhat slow attacks while this game seems to have faster attacks.
The beginner spear in particular is really fast and fun to use for example so I'm looking forward to other weapons.
>>1689642using the charged attack to act as a blender while shooting from far away is really satisfying
So which character did you buy with your Luna coin? I got Truffle, she turns into a ball when she slides, it's pretty cute. Also that cow is pretty buff since you can just run into enemies and it lasts forever.
>>1689652I'm still in the tutorial, pausing every now and then to mess around or type my thoughts out.
I'm definitely picking up Truffle though since she and snow were the main reasons I got interested in this game.
Alright, I'm divin' in, boys.
There's a relatively alive /v/ thread btw. If you want to talk about the game I'd say do it there for the time being.
>>1686717>>1686803I'll just post them now since I already write it, will be 2 parts since it's on the longer side
Some Duet Night Abyss first open beta info
General:
>MC can be a boy or a girl, but only girl is available for now>semi open world, lots of freedom but limited in some area>there some kind of skill check thing ala DnD, there's reroll dice if you failed>check bonuses can be increased via dialogue options while talking>skill checks: benefit, chaos, morality, empathy and wisdom>there's extra dialogue options for certain NPCs once you know them better (quests?)>dynamic quests exist, your involvement may alter the outcome (said the game)>there are readables, chests, destructibles, challanges, puzzles etc.>MC isn't playable in combat but can be used in safe areas>farming spot immediately accessible in pause menu>has a physical house that's basically the pause menu embodied (can use the shop option in pause menu or just visit the related npc in the house)>can place 3 chars in the house to talk to them>there's a Paimon-like character named Snow, although she doesn't repeat what NPCs said, so she's less noisy>she's part of a race named Lunarian/Luno where everyone look similarGacha:
>gacha system is similar to HSR/MHY (carry over, guaranteed 5* at 90 with 50:50 chance, guaranteed 5* rate-up at 180 etc)>there's only 4 standard 5* char in standard>limited weapon rate up is solo, 5* weapon non rate up is only available in standard, there's like 8 or 9>first 5* in a limited gacha is guaranted to be the rate-up char? Not sure if this applies only on certain banner/occasionCont.
>>16899033 parts, it's longer than expected
Battle and char related:
>there 6 element: pyro, hydro, anemo, electro, lumino and umbro>element has different bonuses, but mainly deals DoT of their element>different attack type(?): slash (increases damage vs shield) spike (increases damage vs hp) smash (deplete stance faster)>enemy has a bar similar to HSR's break bar called stance bar, deplete it and the enemy gets stunned for a bit>there's no stamina bar and run button>there's dash/dodge but it's capped (2 times)>you can crouch/slide into longer jump>you can double jump>you can air dash, can be multiple times if you have enough dash>you can slide into long jump into another jump into double dash>you can wall scale>can lock onto bosses>double HP bar, there's HP and shield bar, shield gets depleted first>commands are still only basic movement, basic attack, charge attack, plunging attack, skill and ult>skill and ult uses a special bar (sanity) to activate, recovers over time>there's combo counter ala DMC (don't know if it's anything beyond flavor)>characters has 6 ascension levels, max level is 80?>stats: [element] ATK, HP, Shield, DEF, max Sanity, weapon mastery, skill DMG, skill range, skill duration, skill effeciency, morale, berserker>weapon mastery: increases atk with certain weapon type(s)>morale: higher HP = higher damage dealt>berserker: lower HP = higher damage dealt>levelable skills: skill, ult, passive 1 and passive 2 (unlocked on asc 3)>there's cons/eidolon system called IntronCont.
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>>1689907>can only use 1 char, no switching in battle>can summon up to 2 owned char as allies, they attack on their own, can use skill and ult (doesn't use sanity), but only uses 1 equipped weapon>characters aren't limited to 1 weapon type, can use anything you have, but all share the same animation>characters can equip both melee and ranged weapon at the same time in different slot, can use them on the fly, no need to switch>some characters has their own personal weapon, fixed on them and has the same level as the char>melee ranged weapon types: sword (one and doubled edged), polearm (spear and scythe), greatsword and katana>ranged weapon types: shotgun (homing and close range), AR, dual pistols, grenade launcher and bow>ranged weapons have limited ammo, but easily replenished battle>weapon's color can be customized>there's some kind of relic/artifact system called demon wedges, that's also equipped to weapons>there's some kind of Bangaboo slot too, although it doesn't attack and only have 1 passive and 1 active skill>characters can be customized with accessories: top of head, face, hip and back (some costs premium gacha currency)>char models for girls: small, medium, slightly bigger medium, and tall>there's only 2 playable male at the moment, 1 is a limited 5*, the other a 4*Cons
>story is kinda whatever at the moment>no way/option to use controller>summoned allies aren't in the minimap, disappear between areas (but not if you teleport?) and can't be dismissed manually>plenty of farming spot is just "survive for 3 minutes," but you might be able to reach a point where you can just alt+tab and leave killing enemies and surviving to allies>visual eff kinda meh>char texture kinda blurry while talking (e.g. cutscene)>no text log while talkingThere's still some stuff not unlocked yet or things might change, I'll do a follow up or update this in the near future.
>>1689852I guess I'll repost or link this there.
>>1689909>>some characters has their own personal weapon, fixed on them and has the same level as the charso it really is just warframes exalted weapons, what a shitshow
>>1689907>>there's combo counter ala DMC (don't know if it's anything beyond flavor)From what I understand the combo counter makes your charged melee attack stronger. Build up counter with light melee > spend with charged melee
>>1689642>thinking of but don't want to name right now Mindbroken
>>1689912Why a shitshow?
It sounds nice
>>1689903>guaranteed 5* at 90Is there a soft pity?
>>1689967Probably?
I lucked out and got early 5*s, they probably rigged the rate for the beta.
>>1689951it sounds like you might as well just download warframe and not bother with gacha and -5 years of content
>>1689652went with Hilda, she can summon a fuckton of laser turrets around her and her dash is a teleport, seems pretty cool for aoe
>>1689652I picked Truffle, she's so cute.
I should have picked Pina though, I didn't realize she's a limited with no rate-up.
>>1689969What about the MC counterpart? Did they play any role? I mean on the website they change depending on which MC you picked
>>1690024They appeared in some cutscene.
I'm not that far into the story.
>>1690024The other MC talks to you in a dream in the prologue, that's about it so far
>>1689852>Click on thread>Every post is just shitting themselves over gacha or acting like a jaded fag that hates literally everything>Some idiot actually linked this thread herethis is really why we cant have nice things
I just want to enjoy my videogames in peace
>>1690045>Every post is just shitting themselves over gacha or acting like a jaded fag that hates literally everythingIf by every post you mean like 10% of them, I guess you're right.
Game has a practice area where you can try out a lot of things with customizable settings. It's in an easy to find place like ZZZ and they actually tell you where to find it or how to use it unlike in warframe since those who make that game would rather die than giving you a tutorial.
Level system is like every other gacha and not like warframe. You level characters with items that provide exp rather than afking on some defense for 15 minutes to level your character.
Constellation system like Hoyo/Kuro
Can only use one character like warframe instead of 4 in the party like other open world gachas. Character swapping is easy, just hit esc and hit deploy.
Every character has one skill and one ultimate but the launch limited (Titania without her exalted pistols) has a skill that changes depending on whether you're walking or flying so we can probably expect characters with more skills later or at least 1 in 4 skills.
Character swapping and weapon swapping is separate
If you swap characters, the character you swapped to will be using the loadout of the character you were last using.
Launch limited has a "Consonance weapon" so scratch the 'without her exalted' pistols part, seems like she does have it.
I feel like they need to apply some better shading to the graphics
>Go to another game
>Everyone still calls me kiddo
aieee
>>1690070I think the main issue is that characters and objects don't have shadows, makes everything looks flat
>>1690075>>1690070its a cbt so im willing to give it a pass
cbt genshin looked really bad and another CBT I got into has a horrifyingly bad translation that got completely fixed for release so should look better for release I guess
Personally, I just hope they add DLSS later on because it should really help with the atrocious performance.
>>1690077Performance improved for me after playing for a bit, might have been the usual UE shader issues. Still DLSS would be great
You can call AI characters to fight with you using character sigils that you set on your gear wheel. (Similar to Warframe specters? Or Endfield AI companions) You get these immediately upon obtaining the character.
One sigil can be using the same gear as the one you have equipped right now but two sigils can't use the same equipment. Also, you can't call a sigil of the equipped character.
Fall damage doesn't seem to exist like in warframe
Psyche flight works exactly like Titania flight complete with the exalted weapon but it seems to drain stamina REALLY fast. At lv10~ with no mods, I can only maintain flight for a few seconds before being forced back to the ground.
Enemy spawns are probably endless like warframe? I'm in the sewers and I keep killing but they keep coming back instead of having to wait 12 hrs for the enemies to respawn.
Capture works exactly like in warframe
>Run up to VIP
>Kill them
>Capture them by absorbing them into your warframe
>Rush to extraction
>>1690132There's also the survival life support one but instead it's "serum". Most modes don't have extraction though which is nice, they just end when you complete the objective
>>1690135I'm seeing Excavation and Termination too. Hopefully snow doesn't go "Change of plans, kill everyone in sight" mid mission like a certain other person.
Oh I hadn't noticed before but there is a Resin/Waveplate system like in the other open world games.
Some commissions seem to require energy, others require manuals and others are free to run? I'm not fully sure how they work yet
There's a pet system that works like warframe pets and there's also operator mode
Anyone knows what to do here?
>>1690154I didn't bother really exploring the sewers in depth, just returned to Asphodel to push story since some mechanics and stuff seem to be locked behind it.
>>1690154and how to reach the valve in the last room?
>>1690151from what I can tell manuals are just huge boosts to drops they aren't necessary
I was going to post it but the anon above beat me to it, the brown demon is actually using the loli model same as truffle.
>>1690160Yes. Kinda disappointed she's a 4-star.
>>1690163I can't be disappointed because I expected her to be a teen or adult so her being a loli was a nice surprise
Has anyone gotten far enough to test the "All weapons are craftable" claim?
>>1690169Nah, I'm progressing super slow. Been playing for like 9 hours but I'm only getting to the geniemon quest. That said, the devs themselves said it so if it's not true it would be blatant lying.
>>1690169I've only seen blueprints for some of the 4* gacha weapons so far
>>1690154Get a quest at the city, they tell you to knock on it and it opens.
Lunarians are the best gacha race for sure, I love their designs.
>Beginner 5* was the ugly jellyfish hag
If this wasn't a CBT then I'd be rerolling right now
>>1690255>uglyWhat did the homosexual mean by this?
>Equip truffle with the katana
>Actually cumming at the ability to be able to play as a samurai loli
oh my god the loli curls into a ball for her rolling animation
goty
>>1690257She looks horrible
The beta questionary straight up asks you which charas you like
>>1690326and there are only 2 right answers
>>1690337But I like four characters
Best way to describe this game is really like if Warframe and Genshin had a baby.
The base game is Wuthering Waves/Genshin Impact but there are a ton of warframe mechanics and systems scattered around. If you didn't get in, I'd tell you to honestly expect an open world gacha like Wuthering Waves rather than Warframe.
>>1690369What? It's not an open world and it doesn't play like wuwa at all, it just plays like warframe lite, with some systems like the gacha and quests taken from Genshin
>>1690390It is open world though? There's an entire map with teleporters you can go to and a world you can explore? What do you call that?
I just ran all the way from the Glevum pit boss back to Icelake without using the teleporter. That's pretty open world to me?
>>1690369>muh genshinIt's like 95% Warframe and 5% Genshin. But then that 5% is all the worst aspects of Genshin.
Fina seems to be a model inbetween loli and young adult. She's taller than Truffle but she's shorter than Psyche.
>>1690441Truffle for comparison
>>1690397there are some bigger zones with fast travel points but that's not what an open world is, it takes 5 minutes to reach the end of an area and you can't travel anywhere else without going through loading screens. And even putting that aside it plays nothing like Wuthering Waves
I made it to the male MC part
Not very satisfied about the ending of part 1, I prefer happier stories and you bet I'm gonna bitch about it in every survey they put out from now on.
>>1690443Those feet models need some more work.
There's a global chat that unlocks when you finish the first chapter
Recruitment chat, Global chat, Team chat and friend chat. Yes there is multiplayer, you can squad up with your friends and jack off for 2 hours in a survival.
>Biggest eater in the game is actually this small creature
Fina lays down a field of damage that drains her energy as long as its up
If you could secure her a source of energy or some energy regen then you could probably just afk at a survival
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNAlxpSUwUU
>>1688321sorry bwo but I play every chink gacha so I can roleplay better
>>1690437NTA but if anything, beside all of genshin copy cat and killer, this game is the closest one in term of the overworld, not even wuwa was this close giving me genshin vibe
I guess they didn't lie about all weapons being craftable
Can't believe wasted my time for Warframe 2.0. Mag in DNA when?
>>1691304Aoi in DNA when?
Finished all story and now I got nothing to do
CBT2 when
>>1691822>nothing to doYou can alt+tab and listen to the music at least
>>1692086Gib some samples please
>do a lvl 50 boss with lvl 50 supports and weapons
>supports die within 2 minutes of the fight
>50 minutes later
Heh that was easy...
>>1692279You probably need to push mods if it took that long. Those comms don't cost stamina, instead you can choose to spend resources to get more drops per run.
There's stuff like the good old "raise crit/ailment rate per combo level" that Warframe has which you can't really get elsewhere, so it's worth grinding for them.
>>1692352>Those comms don't cost staminaHoly shit can't believe I missed that.
I'm running with the basic wedges since I was using stamina to farm resources to level as many characters as possible.
Thanks anon.
I really liked warframe until it started introducing more and more homoinclusive content.
I have no problems with this game copying it. Just hope it ends up being decent enough with a clear direction.
>>1692358it's a chinese game so you can bet there won't be any homoshit, besides maybe some very mild fujobait
>>1692385It already has homoshit with the two protagonists since you can pick two boys or two girls
>>1692401What?
In the CBT you have no choice and are railroaded to fem MC in the first part and then to male MC in the newly added story chapter.
>>1692407That's just for the CBT, in the full game both MCs will let you choose their gender.
>>1692414Well thats some weird game design choice, they could at least make them look different from each other
>>1692415I'm pretty sure they look so similar on purpose, there must be some story reason behind it
>>1692401Ok, call me when they fuck on screen
>>1692438hola anon es lettie
the llaman las babas fantasmas
>>1692420Probably clones, there might be more than 2 later on in the game.
Is it true you can't play as the MC in battle? What's the point of them having a sword then?
>>1692445You can't play as demon MC
You do play as human MC
Demon MC is the actual MC
Human MC is more like duviri drifter
>>1692414Source?
Voices in your head don't count btw.
>>1692451>SourceThe...the game? You could at least do some basic research before getting all aggressive over stupid shit?
>>1692451The official website
The official streams
The game
This is basic information, not some secret they've been hiding
Psyche's scythe is in the forge for Steparu's video
>>1692453CBT doesn't allow gender selection and there is no evidence that you can pick the same gender 2 times.
>>1692458The official site clearly indicates the human and mutant protagonists are of different gender.
Please point me to the streams that allow same gender MC for both sides.
>>1692474https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgWQPdzehQA
3:36
>CBT doesn't allow gender selectionBut the gender selection screen does show up, twice, it's just that the other gender is locked both times it happens. If the Twilight MC was always the opposite gender of what you picked for the Noctoyager MC, why would there even be a second gender selection screen?
>>1692490>. If the Twilight MC was always the opposite gender of what you picked for the Noctoyager MC, why would there even be a second gender selection screen?because some people get hung up on the dumbest shit and refuse to think
>>1692490Thanks.
Dropping this piece of turd.
based devs instafiltering the brownoids
I dunno man, if you pick male MC twice, do you have two harems, or does it turn gay?
>>1692498If you pick male MC for the Berry part you are gay since any heterosexual man would fuck her.
huh
i didn't get survey 7
>>1693135Did you do the roguelike event mode?
So for a gold weapon I need to farm 4 blueprints?
Yeah fuck this shit.
Huh, so Lynn knows Camilla.
Hope Camilla will be playable too.
>limited banner character is efficient in a melee and range weapon
>the rest is efficient only in either range or melee weapon
Yeah I said it in the survey but this reeks of maximum Chinese greediness.
>standard banner has weapons and characters put together
It's going to suck getting a weapon you just crafted instead of pigloli.
>>1693513A rule of thumb is to never ever never roll standard in any gacha game ever. It's like one of the many unspoken rules for every gacha game.
>>1693516You are still going to get standard tickets from time to time so it's still going to suck.
>>1693517Yeah but you don't ever expect anything from standard. And the way the gacha here works, it's probably going to be a good idea to reroll for Truffle from beginners so you never have to touch standard or the 50/50 banner.
why do UE5 games need to compile shaders on every startup but UE4 game don't
>>1693595Because compiling shaders at the start means better performance since everything is already loaded vs UE4 loading it as you go which means the dogshit performance sometimes
what are the best sigils
i like tabethe because she's like hydroid
>>1693844the chastest waifu
>>1693844She looks like she was supposed to have panties then they put the hoyospats on her.
>>1693870They absolutely are. Don't forget to write about this in the survey.
>everybody except the limited character are shit because they either focus on melee or range
>many stages require using range weapons
>there aren't enough ammo drops to just use range weapons
Yeah this is terrible design.
I didn't have a very good experience with this CBT. Didn't get any of the luno coins so I couldn't even get any of the characters or weapons.
>>1693872>Implying surveys would make them reverse design changesSurely nobody believed this would be the fabled high-budget gacha to bless us with pantsu and cleavages right?
>>1693620Or maybe they could've just optimized the portion of the code that handles asset streaming? Idk i'm not a tech expert but that sounds like a bandaid solution.
>>1693942They will, if many people make a stink about it.
The boss challenge fights are fun especially if you do the higher level ones but it's a bummer that supports die in the first minute.
>>1693270What do you expect from a shitty warframe clone?
>>1693988They won't. Gachas only turn to super fanservice when they're dying, nobody has ever made a game with ultrafanservice from day1.
>>1694178You're not wrong. But if you don't want to do anything, then good luck trying to save your game from this people
https://www.reddit.com/r/DuetNightAbyssDNA/comments/1ix0edy/suggestion_for_cbt_feedback/
>>1694186They have an entire loli race being featured prominently, I don't think you have to worry about the fujobait.
I think the main 3 worries about this game after playing the CBT are
1) Performance. Holy fuck, the performance on this game sucks ass. Needs better optimization ASAP and hopefully DLSS.
2) Story. The tragedywank story is extremely lame and (BIG SPOILER) killing off your gacha character in a brutal way then having a character come trash talk her right after she died leaves an extremely bad taste in your mouth.
This needs to be rewritten, fixed or changed for launch or it could seriously kill the game.
3) Combat. Melee combat feels really nice, everything else like ranged combat or even some skills/ultimates I tried feel like shit. Bows in particular felt like garbage so I hope they optimize this too.
>>1694189>I don't think you have to worry about the fujobait.they shamelessly lifted Zhongli and Cheld from Genshit, the intent is clear
i don't care for male characters tho so they can do whatever with them
>spoilerhaving major character deaths is good, I want shit to happen and i want a sense of dread
so long as they don't start killing the entire cast
>>1694209>so long as they don't start killing the entire castthats where this always goes though
if you make tragedywank your entire thing then more tragedy is the only thing you'll be able to sell and leave a huge part of the casual fanbase that just wants to relax with a fun game on the table
then the only tragedy will be the game's wasted potential and eos when they desperately try to rebrand but cant because its too late
>>1694216that's a lot of pessimistic assumptions
if they start killing off characters left and right, THEN i'll probably complain
depends on how it's done
i just hope they don't do stupid shit like killing off a character then use multiverse bullshit to revive them, that's completely pointless to kill them off in the first place
>>1694189there is an npc that shows up after "that boss" that implies MC can possibly meet her again. so it might not be permanent.
>>1694189>I don't think you have to worry about the fujobait.The writer is a woman.
>>1694186"Those people" are part of the target audience though, this game is clearly following after Mihomo's multi-pandering tendencies in order to rake in profits from all groups. Though honestly I don't really care much as long as the shooting and gameplay are improved by the time it comes out, we barely have any anime shooters out there.
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bros the wormlovers are trying to EOS speedrun this game, make sure you make it clear in your surveys that the devs should not add more worms to this game, thank
>>1693595they do it on the fly which causes one time stutters in new areas
>>1694384The standard banner doesn't even have male characters, they intentionally left them out. I'm more worried about the game going the hags and fags route like literally every other game right now where it's just the same shit with a different coat of paint than the fujos taking over since the playable lolis are just supports which is disappointing.
I did use my CBT surveys to express my desire of wanting a DPS loli instead of just hags and fags for the DPS role so I hope they listen.
>>1694387well they made tabethe a sort of DPS, I'd say the odds arent bad
>>1694389She's a hydro buffer
>>1694387what do Fina and Truffle do? i like them and Psyche the most
>>1694392Fina is a damage amplifier character and Truffle is a healer.
Truffle heals, rides her pig (me) and can dash while riding and gets damage reduction while riding. She can also drop ammo packs and can do all of this as a sigil which gives me the feeling the devs currently don't intend you to actually play her and just use her as a supportslut with her sigil.
Though if some math autist figures out how to do meta-tier damage with her then you'd probably be a god since the one thing you should never do as a game developer is allow the healers to deal damage because now the player is an unkillable god.
Fina can deal damage over time on a wide area and apparently buffs everyone inside her field so I assume she'll just be used as a damage amp. Has more damage potential than Truffle since her abilities are damage oriented but in the end she's probably still more supportish oriented than damage.
Psyche is the limited character and comes with an exalted weapon (Titania's pistols) and two preferred weapons so she's clearly positioned to be better than all the other standard characters. Her skill is shitty since all it does is drop a decoy but her ultimate is Titania's flight and works exactly like Titania's flight since it replaces her default weapon with her exalted AR.
>>1694398psyche's skill is just meant for when she's using her ult since it heals her when her ult drains her health
Oh yeah, I don't think anyone has mentioned it yet but DNA does have the forma system.
Thankfully, it doesn't reset your item to lv1.
>>1694398thanks for the detailed answer anon, very appreciated
guess i can probably go with those 3 as a team then
How many surveys are there? I seem to have missed 6 for some reason
>>1694424How do you get 6 and 8
>>1694426Oh I just randomly got 6, only missing 8 now.
I have no idea what to do with my Lunocoins and I don't want hags so I just got Fina I2 instead.
She's cute so I hope she's actually good when the game launches for real. Theorycrafting when the game is at CBT1 seems dumb so I wont.
Fina will call you Oniisan if you pick male MC
>>1694384unfortunately i didn't get in or i would tell them to kill off the outsider instead of you know who
zhongchilde fujobait i can tolerate since they're just going to stick to each other, but i'm worried about that hideous furry being paired with the mc
>>1694489Rude, please don't kill off Fina's brother.
male MC part doesn't have japanese voices yet
only chinese, korean, and english
>>1694567I imagine we will be seeing a 5-star version of her before long, based on the story.
Hilda's design is kind of weird. Her skill and ult definitely promotes close combat, but her weapon mastery is with grenade launchers, which can self-damage with their blast radius.
>>1696320I really like this character designer
Do we know who it is?
>>1696320>>1696320I'm more of a Tabethe guy.
>>1696629her in-game model does not match her splash art
why did it take so long to get me the luno coin
the beta is already fucking over
>>1697406Better late than never eh
Beta was fun but I hope they add some dailies to speed up leveling account level.
Might try warframe until this releases.
>they gave out a shit ton of resources for the last 5 hours that the entire West slept through
What colossal faggots. I only saw this because I was already pulling an almost all-nighter. Could have given us an entire day to play around with this and let us know beforehand.
>>1697894>Might try warframe until this releases.You might not come back from that desu.
Playing Warframe will make you realize how much worse this game is in comparison. Like, it's Warframe, there is no doubt about it, but a significantly worse Warframe in every aspect.
Coming into this beta expecting Warframe was a mistake. My expectations were way too high.
Well, the game has potential... as long as they actually make it a 1:1 copy instead of making a half-assed, dumbed down version of it.
>>1698002I think it's just a problem on what you were expecting. You set your expectations too high and now you feel disappointed.
Warframe is a 12 year old game, they've had tons of time to improve and iron out any kinks. Meanwhile this is CBT1 of the game, it's not even close to being finished or released so it's still in the fetus.
Personally, I went into this with Genshin/Wuwa as my point of comparison and I'm satisfied. I think the game has potential and the systems are some of the best I've ever seen in a gacha but it does have some pain points that might make me quit if they aren't solved.
Those points being the performance, the tragedywank story and the clearly unfinished and awful ranged combat. I thought Snowbreak already had simplistic gunplay but this goes above and beyond in making it simpler and worse. If those three things get fixed, then I'll definitely play this and enjoy it a lot but if they aren't they I can't see myself sticking to this since the point of comparison wouldn't be Genshin/Wuwa anymore but more like Tower of Fantasy that had good ideas but horrible execution.
That being said, I also did pick up Warframe because I wanted to have a point of comparison and see what people were talking about when they compared Warframe to this so I could appreciate all the 'references' and been having a blast with friends. The newbie experience in warframe is -HORRIBLE- so while DNA felt clearly unfinished, I could at least appreciate that they had the decency to actually add tutorials and tooltips explaining how the mechanics work unlike warframe.
I played this beta every day of the week and now I don't know what to do.
>>1697985I tried some intron 6s.
i6 Lynn is a massive difference. She deals so much more damage. She's still a shittier Mesa with bad single-target damage but her AoE clearing is insane at i6. Could easily do the level 100 wedge node at level 50 with dogshit wedges.
Rebecca's i6 sounds nuts too (gets extra ATK up to 95%) but I didn't feel a huge difference. Maybe I wasn't killing enemies fast enough to maintain and scale the buff.
Hilda still felt shit.
That's all I tested cause I was sleepy as fuck.
Really looking forward to seeing how this evolves and hope they let me in for CBT2
should've made more screenshots
>>1699258I made a bunch of screenshots to document the breast sizes, revealed skin and upskirts to see if they improve, or God forbid worsen anything.
Some characters have big discrepancies between their splash arts and 3D models like Hellfire whose tits are smaller on her 3D or Rebecca whose tits aren't only smaller but also show significantly less skin on her 3D.
Truffle also shows a lot less skin on her 3D compared to her artworks which you can see in the OP. In her artworks only her chest is covered by her dress but on her 3D her sides are completely covered all the way to her armpits and most of her back is covered.
Of course, the most jarring is the difference between Tabethe's splash art and her 3D model. Don't get me wrong, I love cunny but for Tabethe I much prefer the way she looks in the artwork.
>>1698002Playing warframe makes me appreciate a lot of things gachas do, honestly.
Story isn't hidden behind events, main story quests and events are usually on separate timelines so it's possible to follow the main story from beginning to end easily but might be harder to follow events since they assume you've read the previous ones.
Gameplay mechanics are always explained on the spot, there isn't any "have fun figuring it out!" shit like in warframe where you gotta ask a veteran or a friend to help you out.
Characters are usually a lot cuter and more attractive since it's anime styled instead of strong independent women in their 30's and above. There also isn't anything like the gay grandpas, DEI stuff or pronoun bullshit with people thinking Temple would be a they/them.
Events actually warn you when they're going to be over and once they are over, you have a 'grace period' to buy shit from the shop with your leftover currency.
Updates are constant and non-stop, there isn't shit like waiting 3 months for a small update because patch cycle is usually once a month for hoyo and it's copycats or every 2 weeks for games like Blue Archive and the like so there's always a nonstop stream of new content.
There's probably more complaints I could make but these are the only ones that come to mind right now. Warframe does do a ton of good stuff that gachas don't have but it's not like everything is bad.
https://duetnightabyss.herogame.com/en/#/news/list?id=8260
hope guns don't automatically fire anymore
>>1698002It's the opposite. Nobody would want to play as lame robot dudes instead of girls.
I get the feeling that it's going to be a long while until the next CBT. See you guys next year or some shit.
I tried to play the beta but the game run like shit. I know my machine is getting old but I still can play Wuthering Waves at max with 60 fps. This game was unplayable at max and looked like shit with medium-high graphics.
>>1701825>apply to test an early beta build of the game>surprised that it's an early beta build of the game
>>1701500>Enhancing character details for improved fidelityGood, I kept complaining about Rebecca, Hellfire, Truffle and Tabethe. Hopefully this also includes the removal of spats but I'm not gonna set my expectations high.
>Streamlining length commissions to improve pacing and efficiencyI don't know what they mean by this, commissions were already way too quick. I hope they aren't gonna make them even quicker.
>Optimizing enemy spawn placements and increasing the number of simultaneously active enemies in commission areasThis was much needed. I hated how few enemies there were at any given time and I noticed the spawning being really bad at certain areas.
>Refining character animations, including smoother basic movements, helix leaps and wall-climbingThis was also much needed but no mention of an added sprint button or improvements to dashing is concerning.
>Enhance weapon handling for more seamless combatNot sure what they mean by this. My only problem was the lack of combo variety.
>Optimize mobile controls for a better overall experienceMan, they really need to just drop the fucking mobile shit. China's obsession with mobile is really holding their games back.
Overall a pretty good assessment of the game's problems but no mention of aiming is very concerning as the lack of aiming is a big part of why the gameplay here feels a lot less smooth than Warframe.
No mention of the busted Intron bonuses and not addressing the misery porn is also concerning.
>>1702199The mobile stuff isn't going to change, companies as a whole can't ignore mobile because it's a huge market so even companies that didn't make their games for phones (Like Warframe) are trying to get in the mobile market. And my cope for the tragedywank is that they surely wouldn't put huge story spoilers or story surprises in a patch note.
The Intron bonuses might be tuned but this is copying the Hoyo cons system so they will continue to give busted stuff. The base of the system if you haven't played either is that the character should be fully playable and capable of doing 100% of the content BUT hide tempting buffs or abilities under dupes to tempt paying players into getting them.
Usually it goes that 1-2 dupes is a "good" stopping point, 3-5 is filler and 6 is normally something extremely strong as a reward for spending that colossal amount of money to actually that that level of investment but gacha is gacha and not two characters are made the same. Ex, Ayato C6 vs Neuvilette C1 or Yelan C6 vs like 95% of the other cons in the game right now.
You could say that the bulk of the monetization system is here since most of these games make all that money by tempting people with the possibility of making their favorite stronger by spending money. And usually, you have options to go about this like the F2P/Casual spender path where you skip characters you don't care about or need and go hard on your favorite and stop at the first stopping point (Usually C2) or commit and save all the way until max dupe if you really love a character. Normally weapons are added to the cost which makes it so most people aim for C6R1 (Six Dupes One Weapon) but here weapons are forgeable which should make the overall cost a lot cheaper.
And of course, a big spender would disregard all this and drop around $400~500 to get the max dupe right away and dickswing their wealth around. But yeah, that is how these gachas tend to work so it won't change.
>>1702397What you're missing is that there is opportunity cost to making your game shit on purpose so mobile trash can play it. There are a ton of people who avoid mobile games as a plague and it is very apparent when a game is made with mobile in mind.
There are genres where double dipping can seamlessly work but action games are extremely limited by designing them to be playable on mobile and China is never going to be a serious force in the gaming industry until they understand this.
Making a proper game for PC/consoles then if you are hungry for the mobile market, making a shit, dumbed down version of it for mobile shitters is the way to go if you actually care about making good games.
>>1702540Companies want to make money by appealing to the most people. Appealing to the most people means covering the most possible platforms and making sure it runs on as many devices as they possibly can so they can get as many players in their game as possible because more players means more money and more activity.
Companies do not want to appeal to the couple elitist idiots with a 5090 and think everyone that doesn't have a 3k rig is below them as plebs playing poortrash. I hope this post has provided useful insight about how the world works.
>>1702199>China's obsession with mobile is really holding their games back.Anime games in general don't really make huge profits outside mobile, there's a few notorious examples but behind those successful console/PC games there's dozens of titles that did poorly and kinda only exist because of small loyal followings, like Neptunia for example.
On the other hand, Wu Kong did pretty good so expect China to "not hold back" for their next non-anime game.
>>1704593Did you know that she has a butt-window?
>>1705187>empathy is the highest impressionYeah, no shit when most of the common sense answers were "empathy."
You basically had to go out of your way to give meme answers for practically everything else.
>>1705187What does Fushu do?
>>1705303Healer and mana battery.
>>1705313There was two healers? How does she compare to Truffle?
I thought the loli was the designated healer
>>1705317Truffle doesn't heal. Tabethe was the other healer but her healing was way, way worse than Fushu. Tabethe is more of a crowd control character. If you know Warframe, she's literally Hydroid, except a bit better and has healing.
>>1705330>Truffle doesn't heal.Huh?
>>1705335Guess I missed that. Seems like a terrible healing ability anyways.
>>1705342It did the job since you could just spam it while on the pig and heal yourself while getting damage reduction and damage up. She buffs and heals which is why I assumed truffle is the designated healer since all her skills are based around supporting the team.
If she isn't the designated healer then idk what role she's supposed to be since now I'm learning that Fushu is way better than her at this support thing. Maybe Truffle is going to be the 'standard' healer while Fushu is the premium gacha one?
>>1705344I don't know what her role is. They are both 5-stars. The meta was Fushu, who heals and gives the team mana and Fina who buffs the team's damage and crit and your choice of DPS, with Psyche being head and shoulders above the rest.
Then again, it's like Warframe. You can play whoever you like. You don't have to chase meta.
I played Warframe during the time Saryn was by far the most OP frame and I barely played her because I didn't like her. I was more or less maining Volt who was as off-meta as you could get.
>>1705349>I played Warframe during the time Saryn was by far the most OP frame and I barely played her because I didn't like her. I was more or less maining Volt who was as off-meta as you could get.I'm pretty sure both are as meta as it gets right now.
I was also really disappointed to learn that Fina was just a support slut too. I was excited to see all her skills were damage and thought I'd finally get a cute girl that can also deal damage then the meta was just to use her as a sigil for buffs.
Hopefully they'll tweak the skills and make the girl useful since it was just CBT1 and they've been advertising her a lot. I know you can play whoever you like but it's much better when who you like is actually good and completely normal to want the characters you like to be good.
>>1705355I don't know what current Warframe is like. I haven't played since 2017.
Volt definitely wasn't meta at the time. His only "meta" role was in Eidolon hunts and only for his shield to further boost Chroma's damage who was the one doing all the work during the hunt.
Other than that, Volt was good in mid content but was worthless against high armour.
As for Fina, you can definitely play her and then use Psyche as a partner or something. I heard she's pretty good as a sigil.
Also, don't forget that the devs want the game to be more co-op oriented, like Warframe. Fina and Fushu players will be in high demand.
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>>1726432No, we're waiting for CBT2. It's gonna be a while until then so come back in a few months.
Operation Entity Adjustment and Customer Service Email Address Update
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In order to further optimize the service quality and operational efficiency, we plan to make adjustment to the operation entity before April 30, 2025.
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Improvement Showcase
It's been over two months since our first closed beta test concluded. We are continuously conducting the optimization of the game.
Today we want to share the optimization of in-game scenes with all Phoxhunters.
※It's not the final version, as our commitment to continuous improvement knows no bounds!
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>>1726504second closed beta signup is up.
https://duetnightabyss.dna-panstudio.com/cbt2luno/en/index.html
>>1741400Thanks for the update, I hope I can get in again.
>>1741400Much sooner than I expected. I was expecting it around the end of the year. I hope they aren't trying to rush the release. The game was still pretty rough around the edges during the last beta.
>>1741400Did they go independent from their publisher?
>>1741817I don't know if they went independent but it seems hero games isn't in the picture anymore?
>>1741400A youtuber called Steparu is doing a giveaway in his channel, but I haven't seen any other channel doing that.
If that is not just bullshit for free engagement, maybe they are planning to distribute more keys on youtube/twitch.
>>1741817No, Pan Studio is the developer. They are a development studio under HK Hero Entertainment, aka Hero Games.
>>1741855Yeah but they changed the "operation entity" to Hong Kong Spiral Rising Technology Co., Limited and Hero games doesn't get mentioned anywhere anymore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2q21QSYvqBc
is that fukujun
>>1741863That's the wrong one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mQXYyPxSm0
here's the new trailer
that's fukujun
>berenica still has spats
>rebecca's 3D model still shows much less skin than her illustrations
>tabethe still looks nothing like her illustration
Pretty disappointing desu.
And from what it looks they completely revamped Lynn which sucks ass because I really wanted a Mesa clone, even if Lynn was a massive downgrade on Mesa.
>>1741400I seriously hope they rebalanced the non-limited banner characters so they aren't good with only a melee or range weapon and not both.
>they censored daphne
God, I fucking hate chinkoids so fucking much—holy shit. Why the fuck did I even expect anything from these fujoshitter-pandering pieces of crap?
>>1746504kek, another femoid win.
not looking good, psychebros
>>1746504>complaining about some stupid sideboobJust go watch porn instead, gooner
>>1746504>fujotake your meds
>>1746669>porn-addicted tranny can't fathom the concept of enjoying the female form without the need to masturbate>every time
>>1746504You can complain about it in the next survey, but I'm sure she is just a victim of the chinese rating board and the devs can't revert that (their only option now is to create a new sideboobs character and only release it months after the game's official release).
>>1746749>porn-addicted trannyClassic projection
Only a porn-addicted tranny would have a melty over a little sideboob. Fucking moron
Duet Night Abyss Second Closed Beta Test Officially Starts on June 12th!
Dear Phoxhunter,
Thanks for your patience, [The Second Closed Beta Test] will officially start on June 12th (UTC+8).
The test qualification will be gradually sent by email, please pay attention to your mailbox.
Test Duration
2025/06/12 10:00 —2025/07/2 17:00 (UTC+8)
About the Test
[Supported Platforms] PC, iOS, and Android
[Test Type] Limited-entry, non-monetized beta test with a data wipe
>>Please be aware that all content in this beta is still in development and does not represent the final game quality.
I think I won one of their social media contests for a beta ticket
Hopefully they toned down the tragedywank and misery porn because that was my biggest complaint about the game
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Just watched gameplay.
It stinks of Warframe so hard I actually like it.
I only wish for them, though, to copy Warframe more and Hoyo less.
>>1689562>elemental reaction slopThese CN devs, man...
>>1753017Gacha will never graduate from elemental and team/swap centric designs because they want to incentivise rolling for characters as much as possible. They want people to feel the need to roll for characters they don't aesthetically like because they work well with the character they love.
How many dupes does this bullshit need?
>>1755916You don't need any dupes for any of these games, the entire thing is always tuned to be cleared by 4* characters or 0 dupe characters but the max dupes a character can get is six.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mub_7u-O_ZU
why is truffle the face of the marketing now
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its over.
didnt get in this time
>>1756432I thought this was until July?
>>1756432>>1756435It says right there until July so idk why they ended it so early. The invites haven't gone out though so there's still hope.
>>1690160>>1690163Wow, her in-game model looks like crap, NOTHING at all like the splash art, wtf
Hopefully she gets revamped for the release because that just isn't good
>>1756641Most models kinda looked like ass in CBT1, at best they were low res and low poly, at worst they didn't even look like the splash art. They said they were gonna improve them for CBT2 so we'll see how that goes
>>1756645Hopefully
I'm actually quite interested in the game, from the gameplay and some characters are quite my liking too
I want it to be my third gacha
>>1756650I'm cautiously optimistic about the game, CBT1 was rough but the dev letter they posted afterwards addressed basically every issue I had with the beta, so hopefully they can actually turn it into a decent game
>>1756406She looks like a ripoff of Phoebe from Wuwa
>>1757237https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQHD1d9QffM
She was a thing before Wuwa even came out so if anything Phoebe is the copy
did anyone actually get into the beta
>>1757670I received a direct message telling me that I won beta access but that my access would be sent "before the beta begins"
If I wasn't being trolled then I should be getting in but I haven't recieved anything yet
Which are the standard and limited 5* so far?
I keep searching but pages are so retarded and are all about tier lists.
LETS FUCKING GOOOOO
https://duetnightabyss.dna-panstudio.com/en/#/home
Can check if you made it in or not here on their website
Got in again. This time I'm significantly less hyped about it than last time due to Daphne's censorship.
Well, at least I have the opportunity to talk their ear off about it. You can bet I'm gonna start every survey complaining about it, and you should too, unless you're a femcel.
Also, I'm starting to get bored of Nightreign already after 40-50 hours.
And the test this time is longer too.
I'm not sure about this game.
The more they reveal stuff, the less it looks like Warframe, when the appeal of this game is "anime warframe".
it's more like just another Genshin clone at this point
>>1746751>I'm sure she is just a victim of the chinese rating boardDNA's already rated 16+ that's the highest age rating you can even get in CN. Fyi it's the same rating as Azur Lane or GFL2.
Devs censored it because they wanted to appeal to a wider range of casual players.
>got curious because of cunny race
>read the thread
>every single possible red flag is already present
Yeah, this will be another tower of fantasy at best. Or quick eos in a year or two.
>>1758907All the characters in your image are standard except for Psyche
>>1759685>Devs censored it because they wanted to appeal to a wider range of casual players.Why would covering some titty suddenly appeal to "a wider range of casual players"? I feel like a lot of you should spend less time in the drama threads. Some rating board or higher up decided it had to be changed so they did.
If the game remains somewhat niche then swimsuits and skimpy outfits will come out because the "censorship" you people hate only happens on really big stuff like hoyo games or things that attract the CCP's attention.
>>1759832The whole "rating board made them do it" excuse falls apart when you see the original daphne version was already tamer than current Genshin or Honkai, and those are rated 12+. This game is supposed to be 16+.
DNA is way too small to be on the CCP's radar anyway. So why would the board single out this one game when tons of other 12+ gachas, both popular and niche, get away with way more?
Face it you're just coping and blaming the CCP bogeyman because you can't accept the devs did it themselves.
>>1759841And you're just seething over literally and actually nothing. Really sad how some of you retards make gacha drama into your entire lives and personality.
>>1759928So you are saying that no character are censored?
>characters getting censored
>over literally and actually nothing
what a retard.
oh nooo they covered 2px of titty!! its so fucking over the game is so fucking dead!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4Iv79jMPi4
>>1759685>Devs censored it because they wanted to appeal to a wider range of casual players.No, it's because of fujoniggers. How many "mixed toilet" gacha games do you need to watch get ruined with censorship before you faggots get this through your thick skulls? China has a big fujoshitter market. Even relative to its population size. This is why chinks winning the gacha war is a disaster.
>>1760378>China has a big fujoshitter market. Even relative to its population size.Explain why LADS officially bans fujo.
>>1760387Fujo in this context means femcel that plays these games. Not the "ships faggots" kind of fujo. There's just no other good derogatory term for them besides femcel but that's too generic.
>>1760378Titty doesn't get censored because of fujos. Titty gets censored because game gets submitted to the CCP for an initial review and the higher ups tell them to cover it up or change it up and it gets changed.
The devs are free to add skimpy outfits to the game after it's actually out and there's not a lot of eyes on the game anymore. The CCP isn't going to monitor EVERY game at the same time so they can start putting out swimsuits, skimpier outfits and more fanservice as the game goes on.
Though if the game remains big and there's too much attention on it, they can't and likely won't go for the coomer audience and will instead try to retain their wider all ages audience instead.
This happens with every gacha game ever made and created but idiots work themselves into a frenzy and create these detailed fanfics about how their boogeyman is destroying their fanservice and ruining videogames.
>>1746669>advertise a good looking cake>cake arrived and its covered in shit
>Ew EN voices
>I'll just watch both at the same time so I can get JP voices with EN subs
>mfw the EN and JP streams were completely different
Huh?
>>1760582>Though if the game remains big and there's too much attention on it, they can't and likely won't go for the coomer audience and will instead try to retain their wider all ages audienceI guess this is why Mihoyo will never implement proper swimsuits or leotards in their games again. CCP aside, selling an all-audience game also gives you more money at the end which is why all the upcoming trend chasers like NTE and Ananta are going the family-friendly route.
They directly apologized for the entire Psyche shit, it seems literally everyone complained about it. It's still happening though but it seems that there will be a continuation arc where we bring her back as in the developer straight up said "She's not gone so please stay tuned with the reunion with psyche!"
That was probably the most brutal death I've seen in Gacha though so hopefully they at least tone it down because what the fuck?
Tragedywank aside, the game graphics and lighting look a LOT better for CBT2.
HOLY CUTE
THAT TRUFFLE SKIN LOOKS FANTASTIC
Also the other two skins reveal a fair amount of skin so people stop complaining about censorship
>>1761028You know promoting on 4chan is prohibited right? Buy an add, or fuck off to redd*t before you get banned.
>>1761028Two more tiddy hags for the whiny ones too, hopefully they don't forget to add more loli too.
>>1761029why the fuck would you enter the duet night thread and get annoyed at posts about the game? are you retarded?
They boosted the cap from 25 enemies to 50 enemies and made them spawn in tighter, closer formations so the player is fighting more enemies at the same time instead of chasing one enemy here and one enemy there or waiting for them to pile up
Also the beginner banner isn't random anymore, they said you will be able to select your beginner character instead of it being random and this is the selection of random characters.
This confirms characters like Fina and Fushu won't be standard but will rather be limited characters after Psyche I guess?
Confirmation that 5-star weapons will be obtainable for free and there's no need to roll the weapon gacha. Gacha system remains the same, 100% chance for the first character but 50/50 if you're going for dupes.
New features
Also the CBT will feature time limited events, likely a test for when these events launch with the game. 2 new weapon types and 11 new new weapons too.
The new weapons are dual blades and pistols
Am I high or didn't we already have pistols before?
You can dye the new costumes
Unrelated to the game but they thank the Hero games CEO a lot during the interview, it seems that the game is still under Hero games despite the stuff they posted earlier about the game changing companies.
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https://www.youtube.com/live/hUk1HRJJDes?si=JMNvxUvR3BNzP0q1&t=1853
Lmao they even have a skit where they slap the main dev for the Psyche shit
I don't mind the Psyche stuff. I actually like her story. It's just that every single thing in the story is absolutely depressing. Everything is bleak. There is nothing positive about the world. They just pelt you with this dystopian shit and then she fucking dies? Come on.
>>1761056Yeah, the stream touches on that a lot and they're aware that it's a problem but they keep saying it'll get better and the JP marketing switched to using happy clips of Truffle doing cute and funny stuff instead of the depressing stuff so maybe they'll improve it. They also repeated over and over that she's not dead and that she will come back so they likely have some reunion arc where we meet her again and joins our travels or something.
I'm glad they're listening and aware of it but I'm still gonna bitch on every survey about how everything is so depressing.
>>1761042I def remember using dual pistols on Lynn (the Mesa clone) but maybe I'm wrong
>>1761038Being able to select our beginner 5* is so nice when most devs would just have you reroll if you get the homo
>>1761067Oh I rewatched and got it. We had dual pistols but the new weapon is pistol (singular).
I found DLSS related files in the CBT client so that maybe means CBT2 will have DLSS enabled? I fucking hope so.
The furry game from hoyo has had the DLLs since launch but they haven't enabled it for some reason. Surely these devs are aware of how badly the game ran during CBT1 and will enable DLSS for launch right?
>>1761031>homo>overdesigned slop>homo x2>castorice rip-off>censored trash>homo x3>attack on titan rip-offWhat a good start!
>>1761108don't play it then? idk what you want me to say
I forgot to add but the stream said that Daphne and Outsider will be given for free
>>1761039>guaranteed first copy of limited characters>limited weapons also guaranteed, but no need to even roll for them since you'll get them for freeOk, there's absolutely a catch in here because there's no way this will just work. The gacha will be just too cheap.
Either the characters will be gimped without copies or the grind for limited weapons will be a nightmare.
>>1761115The grind for weapons will likely be really grindy yeah but having the ability to grind for them is MUCH better than having to dump 140~ rolls on a weapon
I thought the female was gonna be the ragged looking one and the male the well dressed one but apparently you can choose the gender of either?
>>1761171Game has 2 demon protags and 2 human protags, you can choose the gender of both and mix and match.
Can be male demon and female human, male x male, female x female and so on.
>>1761172>Can be male and female, male x male, female x female and so on.Oh, so it's actually a game for trannies?
I'm out.
>>1761179how the fuck did you arrive at that conclusion?
do you have some sort of brain damage or are you just simply uncapable of understanding english
Its kinda sad you cant have sad gritty games anymore because it makes chinese people sad and angry
>>1761182There's too many tragedywank games out right now so I agree with the Chinese in this, we need happier games now.
is this games combat quickswap shit or what?
>>1761194It's literally just warframe, no swapping you only play 1 character
>>1761015this is 99% the case with every asian game.
streams will have different setups to whatever localized EN fart joke that wouldnt make it in JP.
JP will get female VAs to openly thirst for the sexy characters and EN would try to insult a loli for being too young and skimpy.
>>1761022everything with Psyche's death was fucking amazing, her transformation cements the fact your own species is flawed and why humans look down on you. there's actual reason for discrimination and racism in the world instead of just "demons bad."
the npc that stood at the boss arena already hinted at your own special ability to bring people back from death in the first beta. i definitely want to see a few more deaths before the phoxhunter gains the ability to bring them back
if you want "happy no deaths ever, no risks and you get to harem everyone" then go play genshin
they literally did the same thing with Kachina but it was resolved 10 minutes later. it felt like they wanted to throw in the potential of a character permanently dying but go nowhere with it
>>1761031Anyone know the current female to male ratio in game?
It's pretty important.
>>176122812 playable girls, 3 playable dudes.
And an army of loli NPCs.
>>1761238>And an army of loli NPCs.
>>1761228Why is it important to you?
>>1761182They already live in a dystopia so of course they are searching for escapism and not a reminder of their situation.
It's the same as japs and their isekai slop.
>>1761182They threw in fujobait and a glued a homo on you throughout the story(and now he's confirmed playable) yet they killed a girl, of course people are mad.
>>1761252>and a glued a homo on you throughout the storyOutsider isn't glued to you, he doesn't get THAT many appearances.
Snow is the one glued to you
I got excited thinking the beta was today but it's tomorrow
>>1761080DLSS confirmed
Performance should be MUCH better compared to CBT1 and the models look better too, I'm already looking forward to it.
is there a need to bake a /vg/ thread for cbt?
>>1762506Are there even enough people that got into CBT? Save the /vg/ general for launch. For CBT1 I think people just made /v/ threads but they were filled with like 90% seething about gacha.
>>1762509i am retarded, i never considered the amount of people that got in... i'll post some stuff here then
>tfw I miscalculated and it's still an hour till the server opens and it's already 2 am hereGuess I will just go to bed.
>>1762506Nah, if anything, make a thread on /v/.
I made threads there during cbt1 and the first couple were relatively active.
I also shilled cbt2 there when signups began tho I stopped making threads after they censored Daphne cause I can't in good conscience shill the game after they started pandering to fujos with censorship.
>>1762512What about the new girls and new costume that expose a fair bit of skin? They covered up daphne but they added a lot of new charas with titty so equivalent exchange?
Psyche's new dress looks fantastic for example
>>1762512it's 4 am, i am powering through though. i'll play an hour, then roll cartethyia lol.
It's 9pm for me over here in NA so I didn't have to stay up or anything
>>1762515Good for you burgerbro. Us euros always get cucked with timezones.
>>1762517Which is weird because they're a Chinese company so I don't know why they didn't pick a time friendlier to Asia/EU
>>1762513What are you talking about? The new females barely show any skin beyond a little cleavage and the skins are tame as fuck, Rebecca's shows even less skin than her default, speaking of which, they didn't even fix her model to look like the illustration. Her tits are still way smaller and her dress still shows way less skin on her 3D model.
Between all this, Daphne's censorship, the new female characters being boring chinkcore hags and the two new fujobait faggots, I'm not very stoked about the direction they've taken since the first beta.
>>1762544>The new females barely show any skin beyond a little cleavage and the skins are tame as fuckI mean of course they're tame, it's launch...
They aren't going to go all the way to 100% on launch or else they'll have nothing to sell
>>1762546Doesn't explain why Rebecca's tits are like half the size on her 3D model and why she's showing so much less skin compared to her illustration.
>>1762550I mean idk I'm willing to give them a pass since the game isn't even out. I'll be first in line to shit on them if the game has been out for a while and the updates/charas are shit but for now I think it looks promising so I'm willing to let them show what they have.
Plus I'm kinda desperate for a new game since I dropped wuwa since I hated everything they did with it and i'm tired of hoyo so this should be a breath of fresh air.
Yeah the performance is MUCH better
My machine could only do like all settings low on CBT1 and still heat up like mad but now I can crank every setting to max and temperatures are decent
HSR and Wuwa still have better optimizations and performance but this is such a big fucking improvement over CBT1
>>1762544Jesus christ
That 3d model isn't the latest updated one, right? It looks absolutely nothing like the art, wtf
I really hate that they didn't fix how your weapons are practicing social distancing and just float there
Wow it's so meh? Dunno why I had such high expectations for cbt2 but holy shit I don't see this game doing well if it doesn't significantly improve
>>1762672What's wrong with it?
>>1762676Well if I were to sum it up. Game has too much jank.
Like idk maybe it's like warframe which I played for 30 mins 10 years ago but it feels awful to play.
Insane amount of bugs and zero polish for the 2 hours I played.
Dailies seem awful to do like wtf is this dungeon where I have to "survive" 3 mins then an additional 3 more minutes consecutively for better rewards. Do they want to fliter all the casuals out or something? Didn't do the other dailies but I don't think they would be better.
Combat is so unbelievably stiff it makes genshin combat seem good. So I'm doing the intro boss and im thinking "wow there is 0 range or reach for melee" so I have to run up in to her to do dmg and who thought of having the ranged weapon be a single button press to shoot without aiming or being able to focus down was a good idea. For some reason you get reduced gravity when you decide to shoot in the air which feels very jarring.
Skills do they even exist, there is no way you look at what you are offered and think wow this is feels and looks good to use. I tried all the ones you can trial and still think that.
Anyways final complaint is the helix dash thing like do I really have to use that to move around where is the sprint button hello? Wouldn't be as bad if it didn't feel awful to use it, you have to slide then jump but the windows is tight enough that using it is a pain.
So that's my rant, will probably play some more later.
Played on PC
>>1762692That sounds way too janky for my liking, and supposedly CBT 2 are closer to what the release builds are
I guess it will all depend of this CBT feedback and how much time they will commit to the development until the actual release
wtf is a Filthoid LMAO sounds like a slur
helix dash feels good to use and i don't mind it in place of sprint but they need to make it a single button and make it rebindable. my boomer hands are hurting after 30minutes of gameplay
>>1762692almost everything you complained about are just gameplay mechanics from warframe
>>1762712yeah that anon sounds like the exact opposite of the target audience lmao
>>1762712>>1762718I mean the issue isn't the warframe things, its how they're implented. Like no way you're telling me its 1 to 1 for warframe. I've seen people play warframe and it seems so much better.
>>1762575Yeah, it's from the last devstream. I took picrel in the first beta. They didn't change much. The only thing I notice is that they made her hair shinier.
first boss fight felt great, if they can improve this stuff, it could be great in the future. my biggest complaint for now is that cutscenes are very low quality in almost all areas, sfx, vfx, lip-sync, cinematography, composition etc. it all feels weightless and there are so many odd delays and dead air
these creatures look awful
>>1762692>Insane amount of bugs and zero polish for the 2 hours I played.It's a CLOSED beta, you quite literally signed up for that.
>Dailies seem awful to do like wtf is this dungeon where I have to "survive" 3 mins then an additional 3 more minutes consecutively for better rewards. This is 100% a warframe thing. Warframe has shorter missions like capture or extermination but yea timer ones like Survival have always been among the longest because WF missions are divided into "Has a clear end" and "You can go infinite" so I think they wanted to copy that.
>Combat is so unbelievably stiff it makes genshin combat seem good. So I'm doing the intro boss and im thinking "wow there is 0 range or reach for melee" so I have to run up in to her to do dmg Warframe thing. Actually, isn't this just an overall combat thing? Most melee characters never ever have range unless you're playing a chara with a midrange weapon that does actually have range.
>and who thought of having the ranged weapon be a single button press to shoot without aiming or being able to focus down was a good idea. Please complain about this in the survey. I added it to mine but yes the game would be infinitely better if they added the ability to aim and focus down.
>For some reason you get reduced gravity when you decide to shoot in the airWarframe thing. One of the most loved things in warframe is Dash -> Jump -> Jump -> Glide because it covers a ton of distance and it's one of the features thing love the most.
>Skills do they even exist, there is no way you look at what you are offered and think wow this is feels and looks good to use.I think this is a mix of all? Warframe frames come with 4 but a gacha game can't do 4 skills for every chara (and most warframes have 2+ unusable skills) so they just reduced it to 2 skills + Passive like Genshin/Wuwa/HSR/ZZZ. As for them not feeling good to use, that's likely just a beta/launch thing so ask for what you want to see in surveys.
>>1762692>Anyways final complaint is the helix dash thing like do I really have to use that to move around where is the sprint button hello? Wouldn't be as bad if it didn't feel awful to use it, you have to slide then jump but the windows is tight enough that using it is a pain.As for this, this was one of the main selling points. And the window isn't tight, you just really have to get used to it. This is the #1 way to get around in warframe where every warframe player can do it like it's second nature so once you get used to it, you won't be using any other travel methods because it's faster than mounts or sprinting.
did they change shooting or is it still automatic fire
are party members strong in this game? I play aether gazer and I like to spend there to watch my whale party go at it.
watched some streams and game has some soul I can see it, niche game yes..
>>1762991I didn't use seals much but the devs WANT them to be strong and have said as much. As for the fact if they're actually strong at the moment, I don't know.
I haven't gotten that far in CBT2 yet but they said they made them better for the new beta.
>>1762997thanks. I'll keep monitoring this game. I'm kinda waiting for endfield because obvious reasons but this looks good to me also.
Oh hey, Volt's a cute girl now instead of a black man with ADHD.
I don't think she was in the CBT1 story?
Maybe I should stop skipping...
>>1763142She wasn't. I think she's one of the more popular characters right now so it makes sense they'd add her in the story
>>1763146Even though she's one of the more popular characters, I'm still not sure what her role is supposed to be. If Fushu is supposed to be the best healer and the other characters are the DPS then what's her role?
>>1763151Maybe they changed her but in cbt1 she was a buffer/support
>>1761224People want all waifus but can't handle if they're evil or die and then the story is boring Disneyslop because they need every single game to be dicksucking a mc and nothing happening. There are already games like this so I don't know why one gritty game can't exist. Nier is well regarded but I guess only the Japanese are able to handle it.
>>1763185>so I don't know why one gritty game can't exist.There's dozens of miseryporn games. People are tired because every chink game ever is tragedywank and miseryporn so of course the playerbase is getting tired of the "Haha everyone you ever loved dies! The world is fucked!!" formula of storytelling since it's an extremely cheap way to get emotions from the player.
I hope they keep getting more shit over it because it's possible to write good stories without having to rely on cheap deaths or bad drama.
Oh Fushu doesn't heal on ult anymore, she got nerfed. She gives purple shields now instead.
I think the cause of the horrid PC performance is alt+tabbing? Game's running fine but if I alt+tab and return then my PC's running at 80C and begging for mercy.
>>1763142The self shadow and the contour lines look as horrid as ever.
>>1763228Alt tabbing was causing me some serious issues too
But instead of affecting my in-game experience it was making anything I tried to do while alt tabbing unusable instead
>>1763239The graphics look better on the higher end but my PC is on the lower end so I set the settings to low. Not like it matters anyway, game could be running smoothly but suddenly goes up by 20C out of nowhere because fuck me I guess.
>>1761252Knowing how schizo gacha players are I bet the "fujobait" is just "two male characters existed in the story" and the "homo" is a guy who talked to you once.
>>1763287This is probably the "homo"
He introduces you to his cute sister, trains you for a bit and helps you out with actually advancing the story since his interests align with yours.
Other than you two using each other for your own interests, you don't really see him that much. The one that's actually glued to you is Snow .
Alright I spent like 8 hours rushing through the story and doing shit and as a cbt1 tester I gotta say cbt2 is a colossal disappointment.
>weapon farming has been made extremely difficult, you're now practically forced to gacha for them if you want to max them out otherwise enjoy spending a year farming to max a single weapon
>there's still no aiming
>game is somehow overall more janky than cbt1
>daphne clothing censored and her tit size reduced
>most girls are still wearing spats
>the four new 5-star characters are awful, 2 fujobait faggots and two boring chinkcore hags with barely any skin showing
>the 3D models of characters like Rebecca and Tabethe still haven't been improved to look more like their splash arts
>it's still misery porn shit
>psyche still dies
The only positives are the increased enemy quantity, the faster helix leap (movement still sucks compared for Warframe) and the jiggle physics that still need a lot of work because they are mediocre as hell.
>>1763301Max as in max refinement or max as in actually getting the weapon?
>>1763301I think is time to accept that this story will make it to the final game
Rewriting it now would be catastrophic and affect all the gameplay/technical issues that are still not resolved
>>1763363The story will likely make it but the dev said over and over and over that Psyche's not dead and that they will bring her back so maybe they'll hit us with the tragedywank then deliver hope after.
They'll likely bend the knee if people keep complaining anyway. I'll be sure to do my part and complain in every story related survey for sure.
>>1763185>There are already games like this so I don't know why one gritty game can't existThey exist but it can't be the case with chink gachas chasing after Genshin's audience, which is full of toddlers who would chimp out if their waifu/husbando gets mogged and killed by another playable character who also happens to be """evil""", scaring potential money spenders.
>>1761022that was there in the first beta test. i posted about that here
>>1694238great to hear they didnt change it tho
>>1763301Hopefully they don't rush the release and give more time to development
Considering what I've been reading, the game needs like another 6 months of cooking
>>1763306refinement/smelting
Also, I think I lowballed with that 1 year. It's gonna take you considerably longer and getting a single weapon is gonna take months.
>>1763431The game needs more than year. Based on cbt1 I was expecting an early 2026 release but now I feel like the game shouldn't come out till late 2026/early 2027.
This game is so fucking jank, LB button has stopped working in game on a brand new controller, but if I change the controller profile it starts working again. Game needs to add a sprint its annoying having to use helix leap constantly
did they fix the helix jump or am i tripping cause its really easy to do now. Still want a sprint button regardless.
>>1763540yeah it's a lot better and faster now, still needs a sprint button tho I agree
>>1763459I don't think it needs THAT much. The main issues for me are the lack of aiming, the horrible performance/optimization and maybe some extra polish on the combat itself. I could definitely see it releasing within a year.
If I want to be nitpicky, I'd definitely want them to go over the story and lighten up because having absolutely fucking everything dedicated to miseryporn isn't going to go good with anyone in the current gacha enviroment.
Also, they said they would change numbers based on player reactions so if you hate how long it takes to craft a weapon or think income is too low in the almost month we have to play the game then make sure to bitch about it in the surveys so they add it. Make sure to complain about everything you don't like if you want to make a difference because they'll actually read the CBT surveys given that the amount that got in is low and they're interested in what bugs or problems you might report unlike the post-release surveys where they most definitely do not read those.
my thoughts after a few hours as someone who also played CBT1
>game looks *a lot* better overall. Higher res textures (you could literally count the pixels on some CBT1 textures), higher poly models, better lighting and VFX, more dense and detailed environments. The UI also looks a lot better in parts. Some details still need work though, see how low res Sybille's necklace and ears are in pic related.
>game also runs better, in part thanks to DLSS being added. CBT1 was a stuttery mess that struggled to maintain 60 FPS (and couldn't go higher), CBT2 has a 120 FPS cap and my PC easily hits it with a lot less stuttering (but still some occasional stutters). Could definitely be better still, sometimes I go below 120 FPS even though the game is only using like 50% of my GPU and CPU.
>movement is slightly better but the lack of a sprint button still baffles me
>combat also seem marginally better, I need to try more characters/weapons but I think the recoil and hit feedback are better than before. Still feels a bit floaty though. The lack of a aiming button doesn't bother me personally but the option should be there on PC at least.
Big improvements overall but still needs some time in the oven, I think it has potential though.
Cutie
Also performance seems better today after the patch? I can tab out and my computer isn't suddenly exploding to 80C out of nowhere so maybe they're fixing things
>>1763186What "miseryporn"? Majority of games don't have any conflicts or playable deaths at all. Everyone complains about Genshin being like Disneyslop but you people can't even handle conflicts, characters being mean or characters dying. Stories need conflict. If you want to always feel "cozy" then go play Animal Crossing.
>>1763778>What "miseryporn"? Majority of games don't have any conflicts or playable deaths at all.Play more gachas, there's more games out there that aren't wuwa or genshin.
>>1763781and those are?
limbus is the only one thats popular right now. we could count fgo just because its based off actual miseryporn gone soft because they removed all the sex.
nikke tries to be but is just edgy in the end.
we get one gacha trying to be actual hard on misery and tragedy without insta revival of main characters like limbus and everyone is shitting on it
>Characters look fine
>environment looks butt fucking ugly
>combat is fun, in a diet Warframe sort of way
>no sprint button what the fuck even
>I think it has a story? I just skipped
There's potential here. The game really just is anime Warframe with gacha mechanics but it could become more. The gacha itself seems fine for f2p with guarantee on both weapon and character but income is tbd. The fact that you can bring your own characters to fuck around with you on runs is cool.
I'm having fun with the game though, for some reason. Maybe it's my Warframe muscle memory but I'd play this if it was released today.
>>1763927>OneAgain, play more gachas. If it was just "one" then everyone as a whole wouldn't be tired of miseryporn. The entire deal of "Post-apocalyptic world where the universe is fucked and everyone is suffering" is extremely overdone. It used to be the norm like five years ago but these days the trend is more hopeful or happier stories.
Or instead of gachas, maybe seek help instead if all you want to do is read about miseries and tragedies?
Truffle so far seems like the most comfortable character to play as out of the ones I have?
I take vastly reduced damage while on the pig, the pig does surprising amounts of damage and riding the pig doesn't consume sanity so I can just recast it 2 seconds or so after it ends.
>>1763781Which games involve "miseryporn" to you?
>>1764141again, name them. i've played over 100 gacha games in the past 20 years and 90% of them are slice of life stuff with zero traces of sadness in them like uma musume, blue archive, kemono friends, love live, bleach brave souls, azur lane, fire emblem heroes, pokemon masters, sinoalice, both girls frontlines, arknights.
i can still go on with gachas that are slice of life with a sprinkle of post apocalypse as the setting with with little to no misery or character deaths and yet you refuse to name a single game that you call "misery porn" that isnt limbus or nikke and still both of those have slice of life as 90% of their main content
The characters in the story might be miserable but I feel more miserable having to read slop where the writer is desperately trying to make me sad every 0.5 seconds
Hopefully the new story chapter they added for CBT2 is better because holy shit.
>>1764260>girls frontline>slice of life with zero traces of sadnessyou're full of shit
>>1764141You probably think some background sad shit makes a game "miseryporn" because you don't know what that is. You already sound retarded because you assume anyone who likes conflict in stories "only wants to read about tragedies" and that they need to "seek help", when really the people who need everything to be escapism and have schizo tantrums over characters being slightly mean to the mc are the ones with problems because they need fiction to distract them from their shitty real life.
So what do we think of the game so far?
I have high hopes for it
Any interesting character to play as?
How many beta tests do they fucking need? Just release it already.
>>1764948bro this is only then 2nd one...
Games usually have 3 before release
>>1764845story seems different compared to your other chinese sloppa games which is good I guess. movement is floaty and janky which will turn off most people becase it doesn't feel polished.
so far I like it.
>>1765106>movement is floaty and janky which will turn off most people becase it doesn't feel polishedI dunno, I find it pretty good. After 2k hours of Warframe though, helix jumping and mowing down hordes with melee and jump slams is second nature so I'm biased here but I don't see many issues with movement and combat in general. Worse offenders are environment textures and the UI in general.
This game really suffers from identity issues.
It doesn't know if it wants to be Warframe, Genshin, HSR, Wuthering Waves, or pretty much any other popular recent game. The music in parts feels "inspired" by Nier, Final Fantasy, etc. There are bits and pieces from a lot of different games, but nothing really original or interesting. Even worse than that, the gameplay systems take from so many different sources, but don't do any one thing better than the original.
It has fun moments, but I can't see it being any more than a trap for newbie gamers who don't have enough experience to know they could just play a better game.
>>1765109the place this is most apparent and is the biggest issue is character designs. they have no coherent design style, extremely boring and generic characters. which is the worst thing a gacha could possibly have. i don't think i would be willing to spend a cent on any of these characters if this was the full game.
>>1765109Yea you took the words out of my mouth. Overall the game is pretty lacklustre. Like I was complaning about parts of the game and 2 anons said oh thats pretty much warframe so doesn't seem like the game is meant for you. I've never played warframe but considering how jank some of those mechanics were I don't even think the issue was the warframe aspects. Now I'm not a complete casual but also not autistic enough to min max but this game seems like it wants the antithesis of the gacha audience while being a gacha. Not to mention how lacking the game currently is as so many things are half assed. Shame really.
>>1765165>but this game seems like it wants the antithesis of the gacha audience while being a gachaI think where the game fails is in that they want to capture the grind all day audience of Warframe, the people that want to mulch a billion enemies in a 2 hour survival but at the same time want cute waifus. I'm not sure there's that much overlap between Warframe and animu waifu gachas but the idea itself isn't bad at all and it's quite an untapped market, especially now at a time where Genshin clones are saturating the market and will keep doing so for at least 5 more years.
>>1765167I agree the idea is decent but the current execution of it is bad. At least bad enough that it'll deter most gacha players after a while. Not to mention the game's current state on mobile lol. Also what makes you think people don't want more genshin clones lol. mihoyo made a watered down genshin as hsr and it does as well if not better than genshin.
>>1765188>Also what makes you think people don't want more genshin clones lol.It's reaching critical mass soon and there are so many still in development. WuWa, NTE, Ananta, Silver Palace, Endfield to a lesser extent will all fight for the same playerbase, large as it may be.
>>1765196oh yea the chinese are really pumping them out now lol. Going by how much of a shit show wuwa and Infinity Nikki lanuch was and what they did afterwards and how many still play, I reckon these guys will consume regardless.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DuetNightAbyssDNA/comments/1lcdyuy/cbt2_feedback_megathread/
>reddit
Who cares, it's a thread to post your feedback even if you didn't get into the beta. Make your voice heard.
>uma musume global next week
>>1764378It's still misery porn but this time it's about two faggots so no one actually cares.
Damn, this place is way more dead than during cbt1.
>>1768386Game's not even really worth shitposting about. Never see any threads on /v/ either. Although there will probably be a bit more when it's finally time for the game to release.
>>1768386Not much changed from CBT1 to CBT2 and I got most things off my chest already plus a lot of anons from last wave didn't get in so
>>1768386The game got significantly worse between last cbt and this one. Even the in-game chat is way more dead than it was in the first one. At least on the EU side.
>>1768470I made a bunch of threads on /v/ during the first cbt and a couple once the second one was announced. Basically all the threads with Luno OPs were made by me. I stopped making threads after they posted censored Daphne onto twitter because I can't in good conscience shill the game like this.
>>1768722If Daphne's sideboob getting censored "killed" the game for you then you never liked it in the first place, let's face it. It's such a small and minuscule thing to be upset about.
>>1768770>censorship is le goodIt starts with a small and minuscule sideboob removed, then other body parts covered up, then whole major redesigns to outfits and finally, safe horny designs from now on.
A censored game is a trash game.
>>1768770Kys censortroon. Literally everybody despises you outside of your tranny bubbles.
>>1768773leave then schizo, go play actual eroge
Ok, the game is looking rough, really rough, and it's on its CBT 2 already. They didn't fix what people asked for and broke other things on top of that. The performance is still kinda ass and on mobile is worse, and the gameplay is still floaty and like unfinished.
For example Mongil Star Dive is another game that just started its first CBT a few days ago and it's just like day and night compared to DNA.
I really think DNA needs this whole year of development, because if they dare to release it close to the current state, the game will die miserably, and fast.
>>1769189>mongilis there a discussion thread somewhere?
>>1769126Literally this. I'm so tired of reading the same post over and over.
>Bros I used to love this game and I shilled it everywhere as the best thing ever but they covered a sideboob and it killed the game for me now it's the worst thing I've ever played and literal censored trash for trannies you should be playing (insert other game here) instead!!!If a few pixels of titty make or break the game for you then you never liked it in the first place, end of story.
>>1769772>t. censortranny
>>1769189That mongil game looks actually decent
>netmarble oh nvm. For some reason I kept thinking of star savior instead lol.
>>1770374>star saviorIts cunny game is weak but I'm loving these designs already. Thanks for the heads up. Since DNA seems to be going in the direction of catering to trannies and fujoshitters I guess I will keep an eye on this.
pretty anticlimactic cbt2
And with that, cbt2 has come to an end. I hated pretty much everything about it. I can only hope they course correct it but I don't have much hope.