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>>1613737

https://ae.neocraftstudio.com/article/282/en
https://www.prydwen.gg/ash-echoes/

After Mortal Wanderer ends, we got Uni coming up on limited banner, then Leilani and Titia, what's everyone looking forward to?

I've seen a YouTube video about the upcoming characters and they all look great. So I think I will roll for everybody but I will first do their showcases because the egg scarred me.

The ball game is actually very fun once you get into it.

The story is actually enjoyable but it also feels overwhelming at times.

How did you complete 4-01?

I don't get how to deal with Skylar's event mechanic. The orbs that leave after enemies are defeated.

any tips for this week's Deep Observation 9 ? My base keeps dying

>>1704714

When an enemy turns static like it's a TV on antenna tuned into the wrong channel, they get higher DR and will spawn a large orb that homes in on the terminal. Using the stage ability to dispel it is ideal

How to deal with the orbs:
- Knockback the orbs so they die before reaching the terminal
- Deploy barriers, including echomancer and terminal barriers
- Use CC abilities like Skylar's large AOE ability
- Go into the mission with a higher TRM rating so you can tank more of the orbs

>>1704896
I was unable to do the third stage of the biweekly stair event because my terminal kept dying. I guess I will just level more pushers. And get a TRM memory leveled. The one we get from Thea's event seems super strong to me.

Also these spheres are the very first thing Scatlett cannot outright kill.

>>1704996

I actually don't think you can damage the spheres outright, they are only affected by displacement abilities

If you have Roar/Mo/Tian you can have them drop barriers to block some orbs coming in. With Skylar, group up a bunch to make them disappear before hitting terminal. When all that's on cooldown, the terminal has a bubble shield you can use. Sometimes you gotta use everything to survive a stage

>>1705217
I have to login and check who you mean because I still don't know the names of all of the characters. There is one fiery fox girl, I was thinking about her.

>>1705218

From left to right: Roar, Mo, Tian
2nd row: Lanlan, Sambheka, Skylar

All the above have displacement or barrier abilities to deal with the orbs

>>1704014 (OP)
I'm saving for Leilani since I already have other corrosion units built up, and then Solbyrd after that though I don't know how long it'll be until him. After that I think I'll just pull husbandos

>>1705261
Was Solbyrd the vampire?

>>1705246
Are there any memories helping them?

>>1705378

Codename: Diversity [ATK]
Nightmare [DEF]
Lectures on Arcane Theories [VIT]
Dawn [DEF]
Unexpected Encounter [MST]
Home [MST]


If anons still need help with Deep Observation maybe I can post a streamable link of how mine went

does this have yuri

>>1704014 (OP)
nice artwork what's the gameplay type

>>1705262
I'm not sure actually, I only know of him from seeing him on Prydwen

>>1705684
It is hard to explain actually. You defend a terminal against waves of enemies or elites/bosses. But there is a lot of strategy involved even if some current or future releases might autopilot stuff.

>>1705246
..I thought Lanlan is a 5*. She is the first 4* I got to S6!

Bit late to discuss this, but it's hilarious how much effort the CG/animation team put in for the character trailers. The Thea trailer looks like they had the team look at HI3 part 2's cinematic at the start with Sardine dancing to the Discovery channel and said "make it better".

>>1706232
I really like the game. I only hope it will get at least slightly more popular.

>>1706234
The game has obtuse systems that the average gacha gamer will never understand. Sadly I doubt this game gets a significant boost.

>>1706236
Yeah, at the risk of triggering people - there is an actual gameplay in here. I auto most of the stuff daily but there are stages the AI cannot complete on its own. But then I also remember that such games doesn't take that much money to keep alive so as long as they don't do stupid stuff like introducing ENG voices, they should be fine.

>>1706236
>>1706240
Also it feels like there are lot more dailies and weeklies than other gachas, and they take a lot longer to do

>>1706276
I really don't think so because I can do my dailies in 5 minutes or so. If anything the most boring part of it is the Nexus but I can do one daily.

>>1706300

If you only want to do the daily requirement you can just do nexus surface, it gets done in a minute at most and you can get memory trace upgrade materials from disassembling the engraving after

Feng has to be one of the best and most fun units in the game. Are there any upcoming characters that are similar to her?

>>1706322

I love how awkwardly cute she is, pic related is my favorite line to hear when running nexus

>>1706322

As for upcoming characters, pic is Titia, a water tactician echomancer that's supposedly really powerful. Expected to come after Leilani, who comes after Uni, who is coming out in 2 days

hope that helps

>>1705684

In the strictest sense of the word, this game is a real time strategy... that you can pause at anytime and issue movement and ability commands at will

There's numerous mechanics to keep the game and enemy variety interesting; you've got elite enemies with shields that can be broken by strikers, you have airborne units that require rangers/skirmishers to attack as well as shoot projectiles, you can knock back and ring out enemies, you have ground and dome barriers and so do the enemies, you have stealth fog that enemies can use as well as poison fog, you have zombies, you have kamikaze bugs; humanoids xenomorphs evil robots you name it.

There's also environmental reactions that you can play to your advantage; you can create zones of fire and lightning and trigger explosions, melt the fire to create vapor that heals you, or instead create an ice zone that freeze enemies, electrocutes them with lightning or melt the ice zone to shred the enemy's armor. There's numerous teams you can build that can exploit these environmental mechanics, and there's even some team archetypes that don't need to mess with them if you don't want to.

I didn't even mention some of the endgame encounters in Joint Training, where they have sets of mechanics that you have to deftly push through to secure victory. Difficulties are on a generous sliding scale from 50% to 360%, and you can get all the gacha pulls just doing a middle of the road difficulty per week


I can gush about how cool the game is even further, but if you like team-based strategy games and want something different than Hoyo games Star Rail, there's a lot to like here

>>1706322
Kit-wise, with infinite skills and the cloudburst thing, the one with the most similarities would be this girl, Cog

>>1705567
please answer, it's important

>>1706428
It has possible undertones, that do it for you?

>>1706407
Holyfuck, I haven't even seen this character yet. I watched some random video on youtube a week ago or so and there were a really cool mob boss female and one angel but I never saw Titia.

>>1706551
yeah, it does. shan't be playing then, too bad

How worth is it to actually level skills to level 12?

>>1706932
11 vs 12 is irrelevant.

>>1706945
How about 11 vs 10? I've been stopping my DPS at 10 and my supports at 9, but have been thinking about finally upgrading my DPS to 11 maybe

>>1706948
>>1706945
Currently upgrading my Feng skills to 12 but I am not seeing that much of a difference. I guess it may help for some really hard content?

>>1706948
>>1706949
I'd say 9 is the big stopping point if you're running low on stamina to clear things, although I think skill levels is one of the easier things to increase thanks to event shops. After that you're starting to get those gold craft only materials which can take a full days worth of stamina to make.

Okay so the Thea event memory gives extra damages to characters sharing the same element as the zone you've made. But how does it work with water zones and Ice characters? Who gets the bonus?

>>1706995
Water gets their buff when laying the puddle, ice gets theirs when turning the puddle into an ice zone

For the first time I lost the 50/50 and got Boreas dupe. And then Uni 13 pulls later.

IM DOING IT IM ROLLING FOR UNI

Um... bros?

>>1707747
Kino.
i am just enjoying some engrish myself
>Her ticket doesn't need seed to buy for her.

Last thread I asked about Uni's memory and somebody answered it isn't worth it but now that I saw it in game I feel like it is perfect for my Uni/Feng team.

>>1707754
It's a good memory trace for Uni and Feng teams that aren't killing her.
The jean trace the guy was talking to you about was for electrocution teams, Uni+Jean + Skylar are considered a powerful trio. Uni drops water, Skylar de buffs enemies, Jean electrocutes them all. Skylar isn't even needed just nice to have.
He probably presumed you were more interested in using Uni in her more famous combo.

Wet road/path ahead is great for Ice/water teams.
If you don't want Jean or want to do the Jean Uni electric wombo combo, I'd say go for it, or if you just want to enable Feng more, the only reason he'd probably persuade against that is to my understanding amongst the CN Freeze/Ice teams just aren't that big, Feng pretty much carries the entire thing on her back was the impression I got, at that point you'd probably also want to try and boreas to S1 on his rerun due to how much he enables feng with ice shred, but no idea when he's getting the rerun for a rate up.

>>1707763
I need to see who Jean is.

>>1707765
>>1707763
Oh, yeah I am pulling.

>>1707763
This seems like it'd be a good pickup for my Feng team, but with her signature trace, born from ashes, and this all together seems like it might be MST overkill

I asked last thread and will ask again - why does it feel like Begonia is so much better than Ivana?

>>1708879
In terms of what? Ivana outdamages her, but Begonia provides the team attack speed buff. Both still suck compare to Feng outside of square class bias.

>>1708768
Yeah and Feng team has so many extra DMG% buffs already (her captain skill, sirius MT, class-link triangle) and is lacking in bonus ATK% so in CN this trace is completely replaced with Jean/Tishi MT, which provide ATK% bonus

>>1708914
Maybe it is the buff. I just enjoy using Begonia a lot more because Ivana seems off to me.

What is the memory coming after Uni's? Is it good?

>>1709642
Leilani's TRM trace, very good for corrosion team

Old thread finally died, reposting some gems here

>>1710199

>>1710199

mandatory avoiding duplicate reply text

>>1710199

previous was upcoming echomancer pull recommendations, this and next one are memory trace recommendations

>>1710199
>>1710205

Continuation, global won't see these for months

Is there a general best set up for engravings? Like I tend to go with 2 MST traces, 2 ATK, 1 DEF, and 1 VIT generally, but is that ideal? I imagine there are probably times I should swap something out for a TRM trace but desu I forget those exist sometimes

>>1710415
I usually go for two 2 attack 2 VIT, 1 DEF and 1 MST.

>>1710415
The type isn't really that important, it's the effect that matters. As long as you get 2 inspire traces you're good to run whatever else that makes your team better. Ideally you want to reach 1000 TRM for max level Terminal Skills but you can do that without any TRM traces.

>>1710462
...I didn't know that....

>>1710415
If you're playing the corrosion team, then swap all MST traces with TRM because corrosion blast damage doesn't scale with MST. But current TRM traces in the global server suck (with the only exception being Secret Melody), so build them like every other team for now; just make sure your TRM exceeds 1000.

>>1710482
Damn, I never knew that about corrosion blast. Is it worth giving up the inspire from Hidden Blade and Shadows in the Alley? Though I did just notice I have some SSR TRM trace that also has corrosion inspire so maybe that's worth building finally

>>1710487
If you have Nightmare or past BP traces, swap one of the MST inspire traces with them; if not, then just keep using them. The corrosion inspire you mentioned (DEF trace Illusion of Flowers) could also be used, but if you're running Lorelle as your captain, she already has that as her captain skill.

Should I use that one Memory that makes it so Water + Fire heal my characters? I think it was a TRM memory. Use her on Uni, I mean.

>>1710535
Just run Freda if you want healing.

>>1710536
Currently using Boreas. And I've started investing in that ocean girl some time ago.

>>1710535
It's a bit anti-synergic with Uni

>>1710545
Wasn't this a high potential?

>>1710547
No, that's her base passive

>>1710539
You can run both, you only need 1 DPS on the field unless you're running a specific strategy IE Jean + Uni.

I don't get it. Why am I missing 2 points from the current event?

Which one should I get?

>>1711516
My Vision is Clear

>>1711544
I .. guessed so. I am starting to get the game. It was either that one or the one MST one that Inspires.

>>1711544
The one next to it, the Freda one, also looked really good to me.

>>1711516
>>1711748

SSR selector tier list from a member involved in the CN meta

>>1711899
Here's another one (for standard MT) from CN if you need them

>>1711948
Inspire traces

>>1711949
and SR traces

>>1711899
>>1711948
>>1711949
>>1711951
Thanks for posting these.
>Lucky find ranked so high
I wish i bought the BP that time.

>>1712057
Don't worry, past BP traces will be selectable again in around 3 months.

So if I am getting it right - Echomancers get added to the pool 2 patches after their debut but their Memories do not.

And if you get offbannered, the next 5* is always happening in the next 40 pulls?

>>1712353

Memory traces that used to be limited can be obtained through the MT focus banner 2 patches after debut

If you don't see the focus banner, you have to pull on the standard MT banner until it unlocks. I believe it's only 40-50 pulls, not a huge amount

>>1712645
Oh wow. Thanks. Sadly they aren't added to the premium/current banner.

>>1712652

Thankfully MT rates are twice that of echomancer rates so you'll get SSR MTs quicker than you think

>>1712671
So far I've only missed the one that came with the cowboy girl and I don't even know what it does.

Managed to get the rate up Memory as well. What should be my Memory combo for Uni?

>>1714886
Company
My Vision is Clear
Testing Limits
Wet Path
2 inspire traces

>>1715012
Thanks!

I actually don't have any Inspire memories that can work with her. I can get Born From Ashes from Support but nothing really covers the other 10 stacks as of now.

>>1715183

If you have absolutely nothing use Happy Hour for Battle Coordination

>>1715183
If you have Longqing, you can slot her as the captain for inspire. Changyao (the 4*) works too.

i've been playing this game since week 1 and I barely know what I am doing.

>>1715873
I was in a similar position but I am starting to get it.
>>1715266
Aren't 3 MST memories too much?

when did they add this big text version.
my shit vision really appreciates this.

My God, the Skylar event gimmick is so stupid.

Kind of getting FOMO for Uni creeping in, but I don't really need or have a place for her. I could probably run her with Feng but my Feng is strong enough already, but all my other teams are physical, corrosion, and wind.

I have some fire units built, but I'm not sure if that combo is as good

>>1717757
Uni's best team is electrocute. If you don't plan on using electrocute, there is no reason to pull her unless you just like her.

how do u beat D1 wartorn region boss? My backline die so fast. Still need to clear it for that free ssr trace quest..

>>1717815
Yeah, Kylin is the only 6 star lightning unit I have, the rest are 5 star and under and I'm not too keen on building any of them any time soon. I'll just keep saving for Leilani.

>>1718101
>>1717815
I am matching her with Skylar or the pretty coin witch but yeah, a 6* sniper or whatever Feng is will be so much better.

Are there any sites or resources for team building or engraving builds? The stuff on Prydwen seems kinda outdated

Wait, I just read Uni's ultimate and she actually generates a water zone below every allied Echomancer. Shouldn't this work with Boreas and Feng and their freezing or will they freeze everything on the screen?

>>1718613
there's CN one for resources + team builds + damage calculators
https://bjhl.qianqiu.info/

Folks, we got global Patch 1.6 news announcement

https://ae.neocraftstudio.com/article/284/en

New story, new nexus path, new limited char/MT, free story SSR VIT MT

Project Vein MT looks like human form Uni which I love


While I simp for Leilani and enjoy the new story content, I am sad to no longer see new Japanese VA audio

What are you all looking forward to?

>>1719546
>no new Japanese VA audio
What do you mean?

>>1720006
>>1719546
Opened the link and read the announcement. I am super saddened over it because I enjoy the game a lot but I feel like dropping it.

>>1720006

All the voice lines in global versions for Leilani onwards will be in Chinese and not Japanese, both in story and in combat

>>1720432
Yeah, I don't think I can deal with it. I have nothing against the Chinese language but it just doesn't sound good to me. And I know for a fact I will be annoyed to have my characters talk in different languages.

I don't get why they are cutting corners in such a way that will harm them even more but maybe the studio has already given up on the global audience.

i know how to change the "main character" in lobby, but how do u change the 2 background characters in the lobby,

>>1720782
They change at random.

>>1719546
My corrosion team... is none existent...

how do u beat sephonis in deep observation? Not doing enough damage even when i use fire team.

>>1723004
what's your tactical engraving build? try something like this for fire team

>>1715873
I've just started. It's the most overwhelming game I've ever played.

Those guild raid Nodes or whatever wants 35 Engraving rating but the highest I've ever got is 34 and I cant even get that consistently.
It's suffering bros.

>>1724187
for trace ability that trigger from "self healing", what's an easy way to trigger it ?

>>1724984
ops, i dont mean to quote

>>1724984
this nexus skill

Never wrote a Leilani overview for the thread, but honestly there's not much to say. If you plan on pulling Solbyrd dupes (min S1 if you don't want to suffer, ideally S3) pull Leilani. If you like using the low rarity Corrosion characters she's worth considering for the QOL of forced detonation. Not much of a Corrosion user/don't watch Corrosion team clears so I can't really post my personal opinions of her or the team. Memory trace is for Corrosion teams so pull it if you play it.

Damn, CN Freda's "Encore time!" does not have the same energy as JPN Freda

What are some good team comps for the guild echo hunt boss?

>>1725944
For most of the echo hunt bosses:
T0 = Hassel, Long He (CN)
Both are using Life Anthem + Strength from Healing nexus skill (to proc Strength from Healing effect, use SR trace The Sun Never Set) + Starry Trail Triangle. Stack every single bonus damage nexus skill.
T1 = Scarlett wind team, build the usual wind team with Blood Ruvia Secret.
T2 = Anything else
In this echo hunt boss (Liu Ye), don't use corrosion team since the boss has corrosion res. For min-maxing, run Hailin Street nexus route, then pick Hailin Street skills to level 3 (the one that reduces poison damage and gives ATK when standing in poison mist).

>>1725279
If I lucked rolled lorelle I would have been going the corrosion angle, but I've had my heart set on elemental reactions, so I skipped wind, and corrosion and might skip summon as I never got luke but did get cen ying.
In my mind elemental producers will at least have more flexibility amongst themselves.
I might pull for midas because I like how haggard he looks though. Man I hope he's alright, kinda sad he's stuck in his wartorn human experimentation hellscape.

>>1726940
Luke isn't that important for summon team. He's nice but he'll be replaced when Midas drops. That being said physical/summon gets completely warped when Lionel drops so it doesn't really matter what your current roster is.

>>1726761
Thanks, don't have Hassel but I do have the others at least. I did notice the boss was pretty resistant to corrosion, which I found interesting considering it aligned with a new corrosion unit.

Also, how the hell am I meant to get a S35 engraving for these Pure Echo stages?

>>1726996
Ah cool maybe depending on how my pull currency is looking I'll try to build a summon team. thanks anon.

>>1727089
I tried this and it got me S37 engraving
>Run 2/2/2 build (2DEF 2ATK 2MST for example)
>Only pick fully duped traces (event SSR traces, BP traces, borrowing fully duped trace for whatever you're missing). I think 4 fully duped traces is enough to hit S35.
>Pick kingdom fantasia route, hit depth 12 minimum
>Make sure 3 of the stats are all above 1100, ignore the other two stats
These engravings are not meant to be played, just for fishing high scores.

>>1726996
>Luke isn't that important for summon team. He's nice but he'll be replaced when Midas drops.

Oh no...

>>1727745
Midas isn't dropping for a long time director. You're fine.

>>1727745
You've got like 4 months bwo. And Luke is still a reliable barrier spammer for certain enemies like Sand Bitch and her meteor spam.

Titia love.

so now that the old 6* just got an upgrade, which one of them is now worth using ?

>>1733188
Lorelle, Luke, and Longqing (1 dupe) got the best buff

Welcome back after the outage

Before Mercy Upon Us ended, my casual butt finally updated engravings and was able to actually make progress on simultaneous raid

How did everyone else like the Leilani event? And what do you think of Titia/Jean event?

>>1733256
>How did everyone else like the Leilani event?
It was alright honestly, I liked the story and didn't mind the spotlight mechanic, didn't pull her as I didn't have Lorelle and was warned corrosion was dupe heavy. Kinda regret it as Leilani was cute and I got spooked by Lorelle.
>>1733256
>And what do you think of Titia/Jean event?
I really like it, I'm always impressed when the devs attempt something different. This whole Trapped Murder Mystery esqe thing is really fresh honestly, reminds me of when they did the RPG world.
Like it more than leilani for only having the new nexus or uni for only having that side mode grinder mode.
Also Titia is a massive loveable dork. Almost didn't roll on her but ended up doing it because I like the character.
Can't say I know how I'd use her though, being able to inflict so many elemental reactions and reduce resistance is nice but I've really just been using, Feng, Uni, Boreas, with Mo as tank as not been having to many problems, atleast not ones Titia can solve.
Prisoners look pretty cool I wonder if they're future echomancers we can pull.

for joint training, how do u beat the high risk area on the most right side ? My base keep getting destroyed, one use of barrier skill not enough..

>>1733646
run kingdom fantasia nexus and pick the [nightmare domain] skill or just use anyone with barrier/walls (luke, su xiao, roar, mo hongxiu)

I didn't noticed memory traces level cap got increased to 90, I've been blowing my stamina on leveling up Titia. It's going to be awhile before I get setup a good trace set for nexus.

>>1733654
ok, finally beat it on last day but running kingdom fantasia gives lower stats than otherworld so I just go full dps/displacement with electric girl and feng qingxue to beat the stages.

how do u get Boss(the cat character) ?

>>1737661
Have 4000 coziness in your tea time room

Wait they're fucking sisters?

>Sisi will be playable
I must build a corrosion team.

Tempted to grab Longqing so I can have a proper sustain beyond just Boreas and Freda. Also tempted a bit by Titia but I don't have any of the meta lightning units. But mostly I think I will just keep saving

I was really lazy and didn't bother going beyond 200% for Nyog, was it an easy sim raid or a tougher one compared to Iris?

just wasted all my pulls on s3 jean.
I probably only needed s1 now that I really think about it...

Does it have a PC client? Seemed to have a steam version but delisted.

>>1743307
https://ae.neocraftstudio.com/en
Yea
>website still lists download on steam
TOP fucking KEK. I wonder if's just delisted in certain regions.

>>1743112
it was irritating becasue she gained resistance depending on what phase of the fight she was in.

>>1743112
300% was easier than Iris because I can cheese it with the Feng revive strat.

>>1743675
>feng revive strat
how do i do this?

>>1743721
You'll need Old Alley + Su Xiao like this video
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV14bvQeBErM

>>1743307
Ok I'm back this game looks fucking dope. Coming from Arknights, very longtime veteran. Any parallels to trace to this game, not really gameplay related but more about systems? Are events like in Arknights, where I should burn all my sanity on them to farm currency, buy the shop and use those resources to boost my team? Should I be focusing on lower rarity units that are easier to raise or can I just go all out on highest rarity?

>>1743931
One of the core gameplay is to create engraving (build) by running nexus. Nexus is basically the IS, and Memory Traces are relics. Once you finished, this build is applicable outside of nexus; so basically good engraving build with perfect memory traces equipped>>>characters. They stopped releasing 5* characters since 4 patch ago, so just assume everything coming forward are 6*. Freda (5*) is the best buffer in the game by far (think of skadi2 but with global range). Some 5* are needed for niche strategy (Su Xiao with her revive skill), some are better DPS than 6* because of their skills scaling (Lydia). There's no event farming, every single resources to upgrade characters/skills/memory traces can be swept (god I hate Arknights 6x auto).

>>1744134
Question about events came cuz I saw an event store with a lot of stuff to buy, pull tickets, materials, very similar to Arknights events. How am I getting currency to buy those things then? Just clear the store and piss off? Don't even bother with the store?

>>1744224
Event missions and daily quests give enough tickets to clear the shop. Just get the free memory traces and pull currencies first.

>male/female balanced gender ratio
>speed run EoS
>Tribe Nine EoS
>This trash will be next
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>>1743733
Thanks anon

ded thread, ded gaem...

Am trying to build the Polyphony team. Is it wiser to use my selectors to get dupes to enable these units better, or should I be trying to go for a wider roster with no dupes? Tending towards the first option.

i can't beat the "protect the squid towers" mission in Event mission... Have to split my party to 2 towers, one of the tower always get destroyed by enemies..

I need to tryhard for simulated raid

I have Wind, Titia/Jean Electrocution team, and Physical teams ready to go.

What's a recommended order to complete 300%?

>>1754741

Looks like Fire teams are the most powerful, this also looks insane

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uwoIgd0ScE

Jean/Uni/Titia electrocution team can break 2 HP bars in 30-50s (depending on your build, and make sure your leader is at least L7). For the 3rd HP, just use anything that can survive.

Grabbed Elpis, but I also want to go for Solbyrd since I also have a corrosion team. My question is: which of their memory traces would be more worth to go for? I doubt I'd be able to grab Solbyrd and both traces, but maybe I could get one of them. Is one of the traces better?

Keeping the thread alive! I like the exploration event and the simultaneous raid is enjoyable

Anyone pull Solbyrd?

The novelty of this event has long worn out ngl

patch in 11 days!

anyone wanna summerize the story of this event ?

Fishing for inheritance skills is so annoying

For those who care, I'm back. I never dropped the game, I was just busy.

Tishi - Pull: If you didn't pull Jean, pull Tishi unless you're not building water/electro team.
Tishi does noticeable more damage than Jean but doesn't benefit from all the busted memory traces and skills that square class has access to. We'll be getting a lot more diamond/triangle shilling post anni so that's something you could consider. Tishi's dupes are also very fucking good so if you've been saving and want to eventually pull Cog consider it.
Midas - Pull: Yes, unless you're skipping Lionel for some reason.
Midas acts as the carry for summons team and is also Lionel's best teammate thanks to his square class letting Lionel copy his stats. If you use Cen Ying or plan to play the game on easy mode with Lionel, pull Midas. Only his first dupe is relevant and is optional.