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What are you working on lately? I've been fishing

>>1743027 (OP)
Trying to get Last Haven Treatise. Tfw still at 0 while somehow I already got 1 Chant Script.

Finished up weapon upgrades for everything up to Refleque. Might pick up fishing too because I want to hold off on the finale of the story.

>>1743027 (OP)
I figured I should play the time limited stuff. There's technically no rush.. yet. But may as well, when I have no particularly big reason to play anything specific right now (i.e. nothing for unlocking character kits I want to use).

>>1743188
That is exactly why I'm fishing too, going to pick the comfiest moment to play the final parts of the story

>>1743188
>>1743443
I'd say the 1k jims you get by finishing it this month is worth more than trying to make the generally not well received story into something more special than it is.

>>1743564
Or I could "work" for 30 minutes (from home) and just buy the jims. Instead of uncomfortably rushing the story that I'm enjoying. Much better than being poor, desperately clawing your way through for 1k jims while not enjoying it because other people "didn't receive it well" or some other weak willed babble lol.

>>1743804
>desperate
Dude, there were 2 fucking months. The story is less than 10 hours. What are you even on about. As always the optional stuff makes it longer, but you can do that later. It's optional after all.

Are you just trying to be an idiot?

>>1743808
You're the one making a big deal over 1k jims (chump change) and chimping out over how "well received" the story was. You seemed quite desperate to impress that attitude on others, regardless maybe you did casually saunter through and claim the currency, fair enough buddy. Who knows why you seem so emotional about it anyway, quite dimwitted behaviour. I'm certain you'll respond very quickly again and let me know, I'll give you a pat on the back after work tomorrow bud. After some fishing maybe lol.

That's every tome fully done and all 70 Challenger's Merits obtained.
I didn't expect Parisa and Hazama to be part of the strategy, but they put in work here.

>>1743832
Impressive. How do the bonuses work? Like if the fight asks for [Fire], [Katana], and [Outlaw] for example, do the characters I pick only need one of the personalities? Do you get extra bonus points if the character meets both [Fire] and [Outlaw]?

>>1743833
If every character in your party has at least one of [Fire] [Katana] and/or [Outlaw] you get a +1000 Party Bonus, regardless of if they're all the same personality or if you're mixing and matching between them.
If even a single character doesn't have any of the personalities, you forfeit the +1000 Party Bonus.
Each action a character takes outside of AF gives your their total Personality bonus. For example a [Fire] value of 20 and [Katana] value of 60 will make Aldo gain 20 Act Bonus per action, Cyrus gain 60, and Shion gain 80.
For non-damaging actions, ie. buffs, heals, zones, etc. the Personality bonus is multiplied by 1.5x, so 30, 90, and 120 respectively for the previous example.
Valor Chants also count, and since they're frequently non-damaging skills they will usually give the 1.5x Act Bonus.
AF forfeits all Act Bonus for the turn and instead grants a single +50 AF Bonus and caps its Damage contribution to the displayed 999,999,999 so typically you only want to AF to set up buffs/debuffs/zones/build a character's personal stacks, or to fill up the Stellar Gauge so you can Stellar Burst on the following turn.

Score = Damage/100000 * (Act+AF+Party Bonus)

>>1743846
nta but thanks this is helpful

>>1743846
Thanks for the breakdown. So if you want to maximize your score, you do want your chosen characters to have as many of the bonus personalities as possible, but damage is still a considerable factor if their individual damage output is fucking dogshit.

Finished fishing! I'm not sure I want to jump on harpoon fishing right away, I might dip my toes into it. It seems a little different.

>>1744717
Funnily enough, most of these fights can just be Sesta ASed. Two good supports and one character with as much act bonus points spamming a non offensive move usually does the trick.

Few exceptions obviously do exist. But for the most part damage is way more important than anything bonus, but you HAVE to have a bonus.

>>1746348
gratz, harpoon fishing is nowhere near as fun imo, I'd advise checking the wiki before you get started, and irc there was a decent guide on leddit with the maths and whatnot

>waiting until after the main story is over to overhaul manifests piecemeal
but why

>>1747076
The main story is never over. Until EOS happens.

They make all of Hismena NS skills AoE so she can't work with Mazrika at all lol.

>>1747310
Mazrika is made for big Ewan cock.

>>1747310
Her new Counter is ST so she can try to be a tank, because Mazrika works with counters

>>1747310
>>1747365
I think she's supposed to play with the new gacha char, no? There's only this one dude who's a dps and wants to play in pierce so far, and he needs his stellar. Maybe she's like a lower budget version or something..

Worse than not being able to use Mazrika is the anti-synergy with Jilfunny.

>weapon EXP scrolls
Money sink for lazy players like me since fishing doesn't make a dent on my money stash

>New weapon manifestation is just a FUCKING WEAPON GACHA that you have to beat superbosses to get the currencies to pull on the banners
Alright that does it, game's fucking uninstalled for me. Fuck off WFS, I hope your datacenter gets nuked.

>>1747546
Yeah, not a fan of this fucking shit. True manifestations were perfectly fine. There's probably gonna be some QoL update down the line where the less desirable abilities are culled off or we get to choose, like how grasta pieces used to be relatively rare drops that you only got one at a time of. But right now, this is a crock of shit.

>already had isuka's true manifest for 30 pwr/spd
>tempered manifest drops it to just 20 pwr and 10 spd, with a useless +20% exp
Th-thanks...

>>1747566
Sounds like we'll get this changed preeetty fast. People generally don't take kindly to this stuff. It's just like having a character nerved. Gotta give refunds when you do this in a gacha.

>>1747566
>>1747573
Okay, I just guinea pig tested this with Hismena's (can't get worse, right... it didn't. Barely), and my opinion about this new system is: It doesn't exist.

Yikes. That is one heck of a shitty system. And funniest thing of it all: It's going to filter 99.999999999% of the players because the super boss is BY ITSELF extremely overpowered, and on top of that pledges every week? Yeah, right.
Who did they design this system for? The upgrades don't even seem interesting at all. If you can do these pledges reliably, you basically beat the game anyways, and deserve a bit more than the garbage they offer you.. on an RNG basis.

This is something they should probably just remove and act as if it never happened. Won't affect the vast majority of players anyways.

So grind for months for weapons that are worse than Elpis/Dryad? Besides the 150 stones there is no reason to engage with this system at all. Slam out the three difficulties, buy the 11ing stone and go back to whatever you were doing before.
Dumb fucking idea.

>>1747646
The concept is okay if not for the fact the bosses HP are adjusted with current powercreep so it's mostly pointless aside for tome challenges and some gimmicky hard superbosses

>>1747680
It'd be better if they remove the randomness and consumability of the talegems. Tie it into the Astral Archive or Battle Sim (remember that? WFS certainly doesn't) and have it give unique themed equippable buffs like the Unique Badges do.

>>1747686
A few buffs like debuffs resist and hold ground are decent imo

>Fully cleared Battle Sim
>Have all 70 Challenger's Merits
>Beat every superboss so far
>Can't even come close to defeating Hismena's weapon
I think they accidentally put a Part 5 boss in the game before releasing Part 4. Or maybe this was meant to be a Guilty Hades fight.

>>1747751
And they expect you to do this weekly with modifiers that gimp you (aka only 4 chars, forcing the respective weapon character into your active team).
This looks like a typical WFS moment. I've seen this a bunch in HBR, where they had to improve/rework stuff A LOT, because the initial version was really fucking bad.

>>1747751
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-HRvuyaHKI
The HP bloat is ridiculous

>>1747602
Part of the reason I never got into the battle simulator was because of the pledges. And having to engage with the mechanic to not even earn guaranteed rewards like you do in the sim is just disheartening. I'll probably never even bother with the Challenge difficulty on these.

>>1747775
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XO8WYCT9Dc
Hismena one

>>1747777
Battle simulator isn't that bad because of powercreep compared to new superbosses and this new ones aside some weird pledges like clear after 10 turns instead of clear before 10 turns so you need to stall for no reason.

>>1747775
This legit looks like a parody, like if someone was intentionally trying to make a game to look as ridiculous as possible.

>>1747826
The bad pledges in the sim weren't really needed anyways. I think all important stuff can be gotten without much of any issues. I sure did skip a bunch of stuff including male only. Was funny when I was scrapping together a weird male only team that ended up being Ewan, Dewey Alter, Cetie AS and Hardy, as those were basically my only male 5* (even Aldo was still 4*)... and then there was a fire absorb enemy after the first wave or two.

I also found the very last one (eastern mythos) actually kinda fun, when I did it recently. But I'm only playing this game since this year, so I lack a lot of power.

I think the best way they can hotfix this, is allow the pledges to be done on every difficulty, without changing the rewards. No point in locking people out of gaining these resources, even if they are casual. Challenge should just be like any super boss. No pledges, just beat it.

>>1747868
>eastern mythos
Uh yeah no. Western mythos. I'm not from the future where they released an update to the sim. Don't worry. Nothing suspicious here.

>>1747833
https://x.com/Tsuchi_AE/status/1925695688349790364
Achievement lmao

These manifestation challenge difficulty fights are bullshit. I got Isuka down to needing one more hit and then she full healed. This shit takes too long and I can't be bothered to do it.

>>1748076
Time to port pic from another WFS game over. It's useless there. They won't miss it.

>>1748076
Sesta AS core clears it on challenge easily.

>>1748222
NTA, but "easily" is definitely not true. I haven't tried much, but there's definitely more than enough issues in the Hismena fight. (I'll do a damn and give up on a true manifest for this garbage)

The only thing that should be easily clearing it, if it's the same as the previous difficulties, aka no stoppers, and skipping attacks after clearing phase 1, is thunder with stellar Izuna. It's not that hard to deal 50-100 billion damage turn 1 via AF, and you can repeat this again in turn 2. Just not the pledges.

>>1748224
>if it's the same as the previous difficulties, aka no stoppers
Claude has a stopper at 10% HP, Isuka and Hismena both have stoppers around 50%, and then her 2nd phase is a full heal rather than a half heal and regains her stopper.

>>1747360
Based and hot

>>1748222
Yep, not too bad

>>1748021
https://x.com/yuka_anadenn/status/1925540403199320454
I wish I could do this

>>1748425
https://x.com/yuka_anadenn/status/1925590259964027098
How do they deal so much damage?

>>1748435
Supreme whaling. Every character there has 255.

Because I can't beat challenge (at least not without trying), I've done some grind of the second highest difficulty for a good 2k points.

First of all, the droprate is abyssal. I've only ever gotten the "first" drop indicated, the second one never dropped. But considering it was like 4 drops in 80+ fights.. yeah.
Second, why is there no easier way to repeat this fight? If you can't do challenge this is your only way to get the currency needed for upgrading the weapon to essentially true manifest stats.
Third, for whatever reason it says "weapon leveled up to lvl 2" etc. after fighting, as if it gets exp from lvl 1 again. But it doesn't level, or get better.

Rough.

timetwisted chads win yet again

How many petalfalls can I pull of before my party falls.
Maybe I can be like the 2000 turns guy

2 pulls 1 laclair

An empty victory as I'm still waiting for the 3 stars to get 4 then 5 star forms with their lore that is more interesting than some of the main characters.

The hismena fight is way less bullshit what the fuck is this isuka shit

Grinded about 7k points in Hismena very hard battles while watching some dota, so about 230 fights or so. Pic are the drops.

This system is really underwhelming. But I guess you can hit the attack button while you watch something...

>>1750090
Yeah, I've been doing hismena too. Fuck Isuka

>>1750109
Very hard is the second highest difficulty. Doesn't matter which one you do there. It's just 2 Sesta AS attacks each. The drops do differ though.

>>1750127
Hismena is less of a hassle even on vh
Isuka is a bitch on all of them because she always does bullshit that adds extra steps for my current setup

>>1750131
Well, depends on the team I guess. For me it's the same.
Anyways I tried challenge, and at least I beat her. But 10 turns is too whale for me. Went better than against Hismena's challenge mode where I tried a few times just to get killed.

>>1750163
yeah this challenge is ultra lame but so it this not being ready for my favorite dragon girl yet

>game updating
I wonder why

>>1750501
When using the dungeon skip function in the "Transforming Battleship" and "Edax Tree of Time" dungeons in the Another Dungeon "Edax Unigan", players will receive different items instead of the items they should have received.
*This issue has been fixed in an update.
*We plan to address this issue at a later date for players who received different items.

>>1750526
Well fuck, I skipped about 20 times there

>>1750163
Same here, makes me wonder wtf that other guy is even doing lol

>>1750604
What am I doing? Not having sesta AS

>>1750605
Damn, my condolences bud

>>1750606
Yep, no other wind damage compares to her
hell no other damage compares to her especially for this bloated shit

So Rovella is gonna get a 5* with the upcoming Ensemble, right?

>>1750613
I hope so because I enjoy lost lab arcs more than others

>>1750608
I was actually thinking Suzette MIGHT be better. The problem with this bloat is that Sesta runs out of moves, and AF + SB are one of the bigger damage sources. Suzette has better multipliers for that, and her SB move is extremely overpowered. (16k multiplier) She also makes better use of Barrier Pierce, which Necoco provides 3 stacks for and Sesta AS just wastes hard.
Now the OTHER problem is that Sesta is also kinda the best AF generation. So I was thinking maybe basic Sesta might be better. Even worse in AF, but gets stacks more reliable. But she can't SB and works like shit without Tsubame Alter, but there's no real way to play that with Shanie Alter AND Isuka. (Tsubame buffs to the right, like Shanie)

It's tough. But I should've really equipped singular focus for Necoco, to make Isuka deal more damage from that alone, and give Isuka some personal damage grasta instead of the typical slave stuff. I was not expecting this sponge. What was that full heal? 120 billion? My god.

Now the real actually best team would probably be Shion ES, Shigure ES, Sesta AS and Isuka. But I have 0 investment into my Shigure, and he has no stellar which he really needs. Shion probably also wants 4 skill slots.. I again do not have. But that team should absolutely fuck this fight, considering Shion gives you charge and a good chunk of AF power. Pseudo thunder.

>>1750634
I might try some of this team but this stuff is still bullshit and may make me create an ai bot trained on my own gameplay to do this shit for me because it's anti fun and reminds me of launch grasta

>>1750634
Alright, giving Isuka only one Katana wind share, and on top bulls eye ore poison grasta and an upgraded weakness grasta, as well as Necoco the singular focus buff did the trick. Also not her manifest, but a not upgraded void katana. (I.. don't play long enough to have grinded all of these upgrades)

10 turns on the dot. I still think I could've done this better, with getting Moke into the front for bonus stacks and by not forgetting that the AF boost from Gunce AS, as nice as it is, comes with Kaleido thunder for the current turn. But whatever. It worked.
Almost died because I forgot that end of turn actions come AFTER buffs run out, so my "cover last for this turn, I can set it up again next turn" almost killed me. Or more like, I didn't consider it's an end of turn action... Isuka kinda slows enemies HARD.

Another win for the broken cat, that reverses all debuffs and has extremely powerful buffs.

On another note.. oh no. You are supposed to do this for every weapon? Well. Not anytime soon for Hismena.

>>1750697
I swear this shit is designed to eat up what little chants I have left

Why am I getting rewards for leveling a sword already at 10

>>1751366
What do I use laclair altar for? Got both in the same pull

>>1750933
Wouldn't care much about it for now. It says pledges reset at Tuesday 3AM UTC, but they sure didn't. I thought maybe it's a typo and it's PM, like typical weekly reset, but it didn't there either. By now it still hasn't reset, so I can only guess it either reset Monday 3 AM UTC, or never.

Normally it should really just be the weekly reset where it happens, but who the fuck knows. If it did reset a day earlier than indicated that'd be equally BS than what currently happens.
Also the JP version says "Tuesday 12", which would be 3 AM UTC, so the EN translation isn't wrong.

>>1751147
It's another bug. Well, I don't think you get rewards per se, just the "weapon leveled to X".

>>1751369
There's only this one earth dude I know, they have currently on a stellar paid banner. You need his stellar too, and I don't think it's even remotely worth it.

>>1751562
So basically I should just stellar ID instead

>>1751724
If you can play a good blunt team, it's alright.
I'd be looking towards AF suited teams, judging from the most recent HP bloat. Like teams should be good at building and using AF, which is the problem of the stellar bow guy. He generates good AF, but is absolutely horrendous inside of AF, because his attacks use up a consumable stack, and you run out in AF. ID should be a little better.. but not sure if it's that great.

On a complete unrelated note, this game never ceases to surprise me. Playing Shigure's third character quest (aka his NS), and pic related is in. They must've added this line much later on because Oboro released like 5 damn years later. That is some weird ass dedication.

>>1751764
I replay quests all the time because of this

Any guides for a relatively safe strategy against the Lavogs? There's this talk of the red meteor as I head for the finale, so I want to take care of this side quest first.

>>1752978
Benedict + AS Yipha could sweep them back when they originally came out so now your options are much wider.

>>1753066
Benedict and Yipha then. Maybe Kagurame to tank, and someone else for slash zone and buffs? And a backline grasta slave. If I can survive without micromanaging buffs, I don't care if it takes me 100 turns per fight.

>>1752978
benedict is a character everyone should have for any bullshit bosses like that

>>1753243
>Kagurame as a tank
That's a bad idea.
>100 turns
Not possible, there's a hard turn limit.

I don't think these boss' should be particularly hard though. They are extremely gimmicky, but that's about that.

>>1753373
yep, pretty much all the story powerup bosses are knowledge checks

And that's Hismena. I expected this to be a little harder, but outside of needing to AF the second phase full to 0, or die by debuffs, this worked without issues. Pretty fast, too, so a decent amount of leeway.

They all have stellars with the exception of Jillfunny, I main target Isuka. And that's Hismena. I expected this to be a little harder, but outside of needing to AF the second phase full to 0, or die by debuffs, this worked without issues. Pretty fast, too, so a decent amount of leeway.

They all have stellars with the exception of Jillfunny, I main target Isuka. In case anyone needs ideas:

Elseal: Prismatic Sword, Blue Heavens Bracelet, Enhanced combo rate badge
Gladius Imber, Mare Dux, Heal Buckler
enh. if max HP (sword) x2, Sound body (sword) all with dormant

Ewella: Void Lance (normal version), Strike Vitals Bracelet, PWR/SPD +30 badge
Fides Nitens, Reflexio, Oratio
pain (last stand), poison (bulls eye), rapids (dormant)

Hismena: Elpis Spear, Lepid Bracelet, Spurring Badge
Rosa Azul, Lanza Azulea, Sorpresa
pain (last stand), poison (bulls eye), enh. max hp (dormant)

Jillfunny: Elpis Sword, Dryad's Bangle, Last Stand Badge
Gradia Favor, Iridescence, Intendere
pain (bulls eye), pain (/), supreme power (last stand: whoops. Gave her the badge and didn't change this to pain/poison)

>>1753243
I did it w/ Radias AS - do not use her counter though

Oh no, it's raining..

>>1754534
Truth is it ain't over and there is too much post content to gloss over for me

Anyone else has an empty Trial screen? (in awards)
First the weird pledges weren't resetting and now this? What's going on.

What's the easiest/best equipment set to grind out as someone who has just cleared the story? Currently sitting on a lot of Sky Guard stuff because it was extremely simple to craft but dunno where to go from there.

>>1755946
Just got a 1 gate sensationalist

1 step closer to neko avatar

>>1756287
Meant to also say I still just go for timetwisted stuff because it's more worth my time than this crappy current weapon system they are proposing.

This shit should have been a thing at the same time curio was added and it could have been powercrept by now and be worth the effort it currently is not.

They took the kof system and made it unfun instead of fun like it is.

That One for All youtube video helped me get by most Lavogs. Earth was unusually tougher than the others, and Benedict was easily doing 50% more damage on non-Earth Lavogs for whatever reason, even after swapping off of the Mujima Ax. Just gotta take care of the Thunder one and the one last variant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81dtF5R_kwI

>>1756876
Finally I can put her back with my other wife which is also her

Has anything been hinted at for after thr COA ensemble?

>>1756917
Another sidestory

>>1756924
Oh right the Beast Mythos.

New girl seems broken. I don't care about anything specifically other than that she.. seemingly provides critical guard? That's the most broken shit ever. Waiting for the actual release but holy shit. I wonder what the limitations are. You could even make absolute jobbers like Bertrand into giga chad tanks.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mUXOYivkUWXUyJAYKPWBx8BYIV6qAzkXM

>>1756995
The current meta is kill in low amount of turns instead of stalling though.

>>1757018
"low" is nice and all, but if there's 200 billion HP to go through, you will fight for a while. And critical guard is the best counter to fixed damage, period. And that's, next to debuffs, the number 1 thing that can kill.
What's dead won't kill you, but the way I see it, the direction is clear. A LOT more HP on enemies, AF becoming much more relevant again, and as such survival is also a lot more important.

I play this game since early this year, when Necoco ES' banner was there. Since than I got ONE treatice for her AS, while I already have the ES VC Grasta, and it DOES NOT STOP giving me her stuff to the point I have 3 of these things again now.

She's a support. Her VC Grasta was already kinda pointless, working towards a true one is NOT my intention game.

>>1743173
Tfw still haven't got Last Haven treatise even once but got 2 Jinni Opus today. Shit's rigged.

The game is fucking with me

>tried rolling for the new girl
>got 2 gold doors in a 10-roll
>dupe Ewan and dupe Alma
This game gacha is still shit

>>1758315
Yeah, I threw 200 pulls on her and didn't get her rate up, though I got her from one of those pity guarantees.
It's business as usual. Didn't even get her 4* in those rolls.

It'll be funny once I run out of rolls soon (the rest I have will go on Suzette), and then won't get that many anymore. New player jims are quite a plenty, but eventually they run out.
Rate up in AE is a lie. On the flipside, I got Velette with over 80 light now, so that's a huge improvement. I also got Dewey Alter AS right when his banner ended from a spook. Heh.

>>1758128
Nah, he randomly appears there on rare occasions. I don't know if anyone's ever bothered to figure out if there's rhyme or reason to his appearances on the losing route.

Cetie is weird. On the one hand his kit feels kinda lackluster, very obviously designed around Linaria, until you see what his stellar move does, and what Jamming is.

So, normally these special kind of buffs/debuffs (glowing orbs, pic related, like what Yuna also has with the permanent int/pow down) can't be removed in any way, right. Which means Jamming SHOULD stick when the enemy is having a stopper or something, even if they remove debuffs. Not sure about dying + reviving.

Next is its rather unique way of triggering. You basically use his unique skill to stack two of retro and clock count respectively. Then, once you have at least 8 stacks (up to 12 are possible), you can either consume 8 or SB to trigger additional attacks and effects. If you do NOT SB, these are 4 (!) attacks in frequency which give 30% AF if you have Linaria's stance, during SB you obviously get 0 AF. If you have Sesta AS, she can do the same. Add Moke, and you got at least 70% AF after just one off turn past AF.
Add 1 and 1 and you realize.. you can have 100% uptime of Jamming, eot attacks aside. Getting an AF generating second sidekick (like the free one from the main story for 6 cost -> 30% AF) makes this even better.


Now what does this all mean? Actually doesn't matter. Linaria is hot and very cute and I'm extremely enjoying her as a character. Way too much to be honest. I was looking forward to Renri, but alas. All the love I have for blonde twintails aren't enough to compete.

>>1758648
This dude is a literal lottery ticket out of a million for appearing there. Not in 4 years have I seen him there.

>>1758315
Ewan is worth more anyways as a character and in usefulness

Tried the new AD and I think something has to be bugged.

How can a wind slash attack not hit weakness, but a neutral slash attack hit weakness? So far everything in this game behaved in a way that if either the attack type or the attack element hit weakness, you WILL hit a weakness even if the respective other one is absorbed/nulled/resisted.
I got so royally confused by this AD, I'll wait till they either bug fix shit, or I know what enemies and resistances are in there. You are on a timer, and I'd rather not throw away red keys trial and erroring myself through.

>>1759206
Maybe it's a lame ass aura

Fellas, what is THE defacto robotic girl team? Androids count and cyborgs

>>1759547
Might be, but checking auras when the time is ticking...
Feels really weird though. I've never seen an aura that messes with the way the weakness/resistance works. I was thinking of some kaleido effect, but that would also change the element of fajin slash away from non type.

I still remember when I thought Shion ES is kinda meh.
The more I use him, the more I realize how fucking wrong I was. This guy is a beast. Don't even need to use his stance, Slash Pierce is totally fine. Took 4 turns for challenge Cetie compared to Necoco ES with 6 turns (and no pledges with the latter because I did a whoopsie and forgot to kick her out for a third slash char)

Lunatic charge is just that dumb, huh. With Moke's help, it took 1 turn to fully fill the AF gauge to 100% between Sesta AS' and Cetie's 4 hit combos in turn 3, + whatever the other 2 did.

Holy fuck the shadow version of the new Ensemble boss is a fucking tank. Only did about 1 billion damage with AF, and it barely made a tick in the boss's HP.

>>1759942
This shills slash/pierce to get rid of the barrier, and the same team deleting Cetie's challenge also has no issue deleting this boss in the same way. It's also going to be angry if you don't play by the rules, like many boss'.
You'll get there. I don't think the damage check is too high, as long as you have up to date grasta and weapons. I didn't even have a backline, because I expected to die to learn more about the fight.

Allowing AF spam is really way too broken. And because this boss doesn't attack turn one, Cetie keeps the -100 pow/int debuff up the entire fight.

>>1757695
Somehow got 2 Last Haven treatise from 1 Toto run today. RNG please.

>>1759993
I was doing a run with just Tsukiha, Suzette, Melpi, and Yuna since I was grinding EXP for them, so I don't think I broke any rules. I'll keep Cetie in mind for the future since he has a 100% debuff instead of a flat number like Yuna, but my autism prevents me from just buying the two starcharts for him because I want at least one of each book in the trader.

>>1760001
Yuna is magic damage, unless you never attack with her.. which you shouldn't. AF is fueled by attacking rather than just standing there buffing.
Not sure how bad this is, or if it's only an issue during the counter turns.

>>1759993
Why the fuck does kms make me wanna kms but I love the lost lab shit in this game so much.
Especially Iscariot, I loved that entire part of the game

>>1759206
https://x.com/yuka_anadenn/status/1931519665467248680

>>1760342
That doesn't really help with what I was talking about.

Also getting 200m damage without weakness turn 1 with a 310% attack.. shows that this isn't something you replicate, so this doesn't help in that way either.

>>1759994
>Somehow got 2 more Last Haven Treatise from 1 Toto run again today
I guess whining works

I got the neetective, how do I even build her?

>>1761413
>build
It's the usual stuff you give a dps, just not the Elpis in case someone else is more suited for dealing damage than her and uses a sword.
The best way to play her is in AF spammy teams, as she provides the entire team link, and not using MP maximizes her own attacks. The SB 100% crit damage buff until turn end also becomes a lot more interesting if you AF.

Only thing to keep in mind is that critical guard scales with luck, so if you actually not just play a tank-less team, your tank wants luck. She can basically make Kagurame into an unkillable wall, though that's hardly relevant when you can actually AF spam with Cetie. But Cetie stops working when you get your stances denied, while Kagurame will always work.

As a general rule of thumb, Linaria, Cetie , Shion ES + slash/pierce dps not reliant on a specific stance is VERY potent.
>do I need the stellar
For Linaria, actually not really. It helps, but it's not as required as the ones for Cetie and Shion ES for sure. Those chars essentially stop working without that. Cetie is all about Hold Up, and Shion is all about the SB move (lunatic charge and singular focus).

>>1761427
I have a few of those. I'll give em a try. Thanks. Critical guard seems fun

>>1759994
>>1760611
>Got 1 Last Haven Treatise from doing Edax Unigan today
I wonder what are the chances. Kinda weird this happened right after the gacha ended.

I give up. This fight is too much for me. Every 2 turns a full wipe of buffs and debuffs, also 24 billion heals. HP stopper on both enemies, one "weak" to magic, one to phys, gotta kill one to make the other lose their resistance to the respective other. 2 phases, second phase kills your stance and of course will also wipe your buffs and debuffs.
And on top of all of this, they stack permanent physical buffs, both damage and resistance. (aka anti phys)

I wonder if they even tested this. Earth has so little magic characters, most have 1 hit attacks only, and no matter how you twist and turn this around, the damage is just not there. Not like physical earth is much better, considering the main idea there is to have a backrow. (Wolf and lance girl need to take breaks)
The only hope for a 4 char team including Myrrus I have is if a pledge asks for a magic team. But part of me feels, for normal players the solution hasn't been released yet. Toova sucks way too much, and while Kuchinawa isn't bad, he can't solo carry this crap with permanently wiping buffs and debuffs. Doubt having his stellar would help here. What a massive difficulty spike this is.

>>1763518
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHJzJptHnTo
Couldn't you just copy someone else homework?

>>1763590
That wouldn't work now, and those clears are usually done by giga whales.

>>1763672
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0KXdxkFbSc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgQozTpspm4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRSEJXbV3ic
Maybe try these ones instead

>>1763750
I've always loved myrus so much so it's good to see her shining in bullshit content at least

>>1763750
It's not about the pledges itself, that's no issue. It's this very specific fight with Myrus being forced in there.
We currently have 3 fire/earth as a requirement, and that wouldn't be an issue if Myrus and earth in general wouldn't be so terrible you need to figure out some weird memes to make it work. But no, I would not be able to make any of those work. Don't have the characters/stellars.

>>1763871
Unfortunately she doesn't shine. All of those are "3 characters carrying the brick" comps. Playing mono earth is so fucking bad, though I figured some whale should be able to make it work. After all this is a fight where damage is everything, and looking at one of the previous videos about the new AD run, that guy's Shion ES dealt 15 times the damage of mine when I did the exact same thing. (equipped 3 pain grasta, bulls eye etc, the usual) It's quite insane how much power you can get.

I can't wait till they buff the shit out of nagi already

>>1763914
Still waiting for Deirdre's AS or Parallel form.

>>1764210
I also am a purple enjoyer

>be Aldo, who has killed not one but multiple gods and can stop time itself
>"I-is that a random monster/robot? AAIIIIEEEEE we're no match for it better run away do a stupid puzzle to get past!"
>"I-is that a rusty metal door the criminal just ran behind? AAIIIIEEEEE we need to find the password we can't possibly bust it open!"

>>1764980
That's all a very good idea, because otherwise everyone would do everything in their power to detain him, if he'd just do those things all the time. And no matter how you look at it, that'd not end well.

Power comes with responsibility. You wield it, when it is absolutely necessary. You don't throw an atomic bomb to deal with a small wooden fence either.

>>1764980
They unironically decided to just break a fuckin wall down in the recent content and it blew my mind

I still don't understand book content, I just got all the rewards from one recently and now I am back to failing to do enough score.

The fuck does challenger merit even do?

>>1765097
They do the exact same thing as trophies in Heaven Burns Red, also by WFS: Bragging Rights. Nothing else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHv4ph4ybiE
JP mini stream in 13.5 hours although I assume there won't be any important news.

>>1765222
Ah just what I needed in my single player rpg with no leaderboard

>>1764980
>killed not one but multiple gods and can stop time itself
>some stinky wolf casually does 100x your damage with no effort
Same thing

>>1765415
To be fair that wolf Dr Manhattan style pulled themselves back to life

>>1765415
That's not even a good example. Some weird sumo wrestling Alien that transformed into god he defeated deals more damage than him pre transformation.

Aldo is actually strong tho since he commands all of these subjects

>>1765379
More cashgrab

>>1765629
You mean ogre rancorem. If this sword doesn't cooperate, shit's bleak.

>>1765379
They are doing similar banners like pre ani (10% 5* rate with only 10 appearing), so new players can get really good shit. Especially the second one has a LOT of good stuff.

New girl seems too defensive for my taste. Also too similar to base Suzette. Biggest gimmick seems to be the ability to destroy zones. But her kit gets heavily nerfed if you don't play her with 4 wind characters.

>>1765707
>>1765837
>Only don't have Kagurame and can just sidegrade the all of other ones
Maybe I will just skip although free sidegrade without using Chant Script and 16 L/S for dupe are tempting

>>1765707
I only care about suzette

Got through the main story. Bringing Anabel ES was probably a mistake, but the boss didn't really do all that much damage even without her defense buffs or prayer up, so maybe it didn't really matter. I don't like how this just makes time a cycle, but I guess we've already seen that a few times in other quests, so I'm upset for no real reason. Were the short CG clips during the credits something new, or were these shown off before?

Can anyone please explain how do these Day 3000 Star Trail Drops work?

I know they introduced a "spark" system some time ago. So when I get a respective trail drop at 100 rolls I can spark the rate-up character of that banner, right?
But how does this one work? Do you just get a random five star chosen from the list? Or do I get to pick the one I want?

>>1766593
NVM, yeah it's random.
You get a gacha "ticket" that rolls from the pool in the picture.

>>1766593
This game has never any guarantee ever on banners. These 3000 day banners have the highest rate you will ever get, 1% per character. Normal uprate on a new banner is 0.8% and I've gone 300+ pulls without seeing this. Shit is unreal how bad the uprate is.

If you aren't whaling I'd really recommend these 3k banners. The "reason" for no guarantee, outside of rare paid selectors, is because you can technically sidegrade into anything as long as you have ANY version of the character. But that's still full on RNG and can take years if you are unlucky. Let alone if you have no version of the char it won't work. And sidegrading does very little ever since they introduced stellars. It's frankly speaking really scuffed.

Stellars are technically not "needed", they are like 6*, provided they aren't for older characters. Looking at chars right before stellars and after this concept dropped, the non stellar versions are much more in line with the older chars than the stellar version, that are a clear step up in the power level department.
Still doesn't stop many chars from being clearly not functional without them (aka really fucking terrible), and that any of your stellars will feel WAY better than any non stellar. I'm sure they thought it'd be nice if stellars could be like a special something that your account has, that's simply stronger than others and builds a certain power basis for yourself. But in reality, it'll just make any non stellar feel largely weak as fuck and not worth using. I think this system hurts the game more than it helps earning money.

If they just wanted to earn a bit more money, they should give you entire stellar charts with pity points rather than ONE FRAGMENT at like 130 normal pulls.

>>1766443
Were you playing on master difficulty?

Anybody thoughts on Suzette AC AS? She seems pretty cracked and solves all of Wind team's remaining issues (not many tbf)
>60% pwr int debuffs on top of shigure's
>hp/mp max up and recovery
>consistent zone break and setting AZ and remove debuff
>shield and 3 stacks status/knockback res every turn
>double attack for AF
Sesta AS, Tsubame AC, Shigure ES, and Suzette AC AS might become the strongest elemental team right now, crazy damage and I don't know what can even kill them. Honestly did wind really need more shit when some other teams can't even do half of this yet?

>>1766635
>you can technically sidegrade into anything as long as you have ANY version of the character
Recently I got reminded that you can't sidegrade into Alters from AS.

I wanted to unlock Shanie Alter and I have her AS at 5*. I thought I'm only lacking the completion of her introduction quest, but I don't have an option even after clearing it.
So I guess I need to sidegrade into NS Shanie first.

>>1766635
>. But in reality, it'll just make any non stellar feel largely weak as fuck and not worth using.
What are the current endgame activities?
Does any of them allow use of less viable characters?
I know the game's been through its share of powercreep. Turn-based gachas don't have a lot of flexibility when it comes to challenging content.

I've seen pictures of people maxing light/shadow of their favorite characters. So I thought maybe you can unbrick even the worst cases by putting them into the strong support party of giving them right equipment and grastas.
Obviously I'm not expecting them to perform on the level of latest shiny characters Wrightflyer came up with. But this way they can at least clear all the content, I hope?

>>1763750
No matter how many setups this guy gets linked, he always finds some excuse. Pretty funny.

>>1766635
>These 3000 day banners have the highest rate you will ever get, 1% per character. Normal uprate on a new banner is 0.8% and I've gone 300+ pulls without seeing this.
>If you aren't whaling I'd really recommend these 3k banners.
Thanks. I guess I'll try pulling on this one.
I really want Id and this is probably my best bet getting her now. God knows when they'll decided to give her a rerun banner.
And what I thought was a "spark" was only 10% of getting her via a star trail drop on 100 rolls.

>>1766750
You also get one at 30 pulls this time, apparently. Very "generous" of them I'm sure

>>1766745
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlIT9wA98fA
Tfw I don't have Linaria

>>1766740
As long as there's no strict turn limit, and you have an old enough account, free characters can basically clear anything that isn't astral tome challenge or the new manifest battles with pledges. New players will not be able to replicate any of that though.
Giving light/shadow to favorites is fine, the normal player never really NEEDS much of that. You may not be able to replicate videos you see in the internet, but they are largely from whales and serve as a little more as inspiration for teams you can try... if you have the required chars/stellars. Unlikely but hey. It made me learn that Necoco ES can use a magic fate stance to create a magic weakness.. which shouldn't work but sure does.


On another note, I can't even blame the wiki being wrong about this one, but new character has a wind stance with 4 wind characters on TURN start, not BATTLE start. Is she the first? Is that.. useful?

>>1766819
>New players will not be able to replicate any of that though.
You mean the amounts of time gated grind older accounts have done compared to new players?
While the lack of any sort of guarantees in gacha are ass, at least there's no real "limited" content in AE.

>>1766819
>new character has a wind stance with 4 wind characters on TURN start
Kek wtf
Dunno about useful though, since it won't override awakened zones anyways and she can perma break and set awakened zone with her regular attack anyways. Nice QOL, maybe.

>>1766728
She's like a more modern Melody AS. Ever since Suzette came out all those years ago, wind has been some dev's favorite baby.

>>1766821
You may already know, but you can upgrade light/shadow of free characters by doing specific Another Dungeon runs with them. It's a low chance (20%-25%), and it can be extremely useful to have high values there. Certain free character like Aldo and Feinne also have abilities that scale with their light/shadow.
Apart of that, Grasta and equipment, which also is heavily time gated via Another Dungeons.

It's not really that big of a deal if you use newer characters and such, but the "free to play" clears can, don't have to, be rough.

>>1766830
>perma break
Not quite, once you run out of your initial stuff you do need to wait 3 turns for this. But she can keep your stance up forever without interference yeah. Against certain fights this is 100% super useful, also having debuff removal on top. Though I feel like if debuffs are a problem. Necoco ES is still extremely potent for wind teams anyways.

>>1766728
>kill them
Only saw this now, but unless you dodge, fixed damage. Shigure, like all cover tanks, will get fucked by % based fixed damage. Also it's not like you couldn't use Shanie Alter before if you really needed survival. She has knockback and status immunity as well, and basically can't die with enough luck.
I think the new girl is definitely good, and be it just for allowing Sesta AS to barrier pierce as long as the R Stance is up. But I still feel wind is so busted you probably had other ways to deal with things before as well.

>>1766740
My cerrine as has carried my ass through so much stuff. I think people have been using book shit as standard and not super bosses

Toova has way more damage than I realized goodness gracious

Finally got to the fat mythos snake
This piece of shit would be insufferable without yuna

>>1765813
He made the sword behave too so now what say you to that?

>>1767769
Last time the sword acted up it was actually thanks to Feinne that shit didn't go to hell. This isn't really anything to take lightly, considering how this was even possible. If Feinne hadn't been a complete moron and got herself "killed", game over. And it's not good to have to be a moron, to actually somehow avoid certain death. Remind me of Fate Stay Night choices. Run away from the big angry berserker or try fighting? Former gets you killed, latter gets you half killed but saved.

This week had a much more doable pledge for me. This was even pretty fast, hitting both stoppers in turn 1 AF already. Gave Myrrus the slash stance grasta, and the heat cutter badge so she helps contributing to the AF.

Figured it's just a matter of time before I get something I can do for this fight. And it's not like that 1 extra pull you get from this runs away.

>>1767939
I don't consider her a brick. Old altena?
Now that was a fuckin brick

>>1767776
I'll have you know that's also a skill. Being too stupid to die and stay dead. Don't forget Aldo actually does die in the story if you've played character quests

>>1767950
It's honestly not Myrrus' fault earth is so fucked. This mode doesn't favor the two most recent earth dps, that want to stay in the back for a while. Using 4 chars, out of which some stop working when you have less than 4 earth chars in the front, and some want to not be in the front for some time.. how do you do this?

Then you have the 1 hit problem on Toova, and things go quickly from bad to worse. 1 hit is so fucking scuffed in this game, when you don't at least have a link or a hit buff.
The only "usable" character is Kuchinawa, and he always needs a ton of debuffs on the enemy and isn't the most AF compatible character either. In a fight where debuffs and buffs go poof every 2 turns, that isn't too hot.

The Renri fight should be a lot easier to do "on element" if you have a good fire team. Only need some knockback immunity. Alas I don't, so I had my cat turn her into wind so I can use wind stances. Worked as well, cat be praised.

>>1768324
They will probably make a character that can shield a banish

Love me some no update notes patch

Anyone else realize they've been not giving a lot of recent characters consistent ignore resistance pain/poison, only regular? Like Sesta AS, Shigure ES, Minalca AS, Nilya, etc. What's the big idea?

>>1769987
There's no resistance to poison/pain, that's why. Or rather, if an enemy is truly immune, you can ignore resistance as much as you want, it won't work anyways. At least as far as I'm aware. Well, I suppose immune != resistance.

As for why Sesta AS has no duration on it, so it randomly falls off.. balance reasons. She's supposed to use twinwolf, and as that's a combo, you always benefit from the PP. For some other chars like the new Renri SA it's downright weird though, yeah.
Suzette's new style only has a reliable pain on battle start with stellar, while her NS pain ability sits at... 80% chance. That's something they probably should've adapted, but alas.

Shit can be weird. Heck Shion ES is also one of those battle start pain only chars.

>>1770152
Huh. Interesting. So are there any fights where lack of ignore resistance p/p will gimp you compared to having it?

>>1769987
Heavenly Tsukiyomi became a slog if you did

>>1770414
I've not seen everything in the game, but I never encountered it. Rather than the resistance thing, it's more important to have a turn duration or persistent. Everything else has good chances to just.. fall off. Even after just the current turn.

But as the other anon already wrote, there ARE fights where you can't use PP, be it for aura or just immunity reasons. Though can't is a strong word with auras, considering how you can technically sidekick aura counter. Moke is an easy cheat, just create a weakness once, hit it, and enjoy your 30% aura damage multiplier on crits. (even a 95% damage reduction becomes a much more manageable 65%)

No more 100 stones from login

>>1773462
I just noticed that I got only x20 stones from login. What's the story with that?

>>1774329
JP Anni + 300 days campaigns ended

>>1774329
JP Anni + 3000 days campaigns ended

Holy shit I'm bored of the game. Where's Isuka. I can't be happy unless Isuka is on-screen. What happened to her? She seemed so popular in the early years, but it's like she just sort of vanished.

>>1775071
The game is a real boring slog to get through. They need to add a skip button already. Besides, Isuka is old and used goods. Suzette, Thillelille, and Iphi were the most popular girls this year.

>>1775071
Should've pulled Lina. Her character quest involves IDA a lot.

>>1775136
I would reinstall if they added a skip button. I have a pretty robust account but the idea of actually playing Another Eden in the year 2025? Nah, fuck that. Game has gotten way too bloated and I have so much backlogged content I'd end up spending all my time watching Aldo act like an oblivious retard in front of women. I also have like... 50+ character quests.

>no light/shadow from dreamland for the past week
25% my ass. What a crock of shit.

>>1776098
It's 20%. There's just a low chance to get more than 1 light/shadow. But the chance to get any amount is still 20%.
But yes, it happens. WFS RNG is something to behold. The biggest issue is: This also affects gacha, and gets you extremely long periods without getting rate ups just to get several back to back at some point. Heaven Burns Red is EXACTLY the same. It's kinda funny how you can actually feel how it's the same RNG if you've played a few other gacha as well to have a general comperison.

>>1776098
I went all in aldo for now or I'd be crying with you probably.
Dogshit you still can't skip there

Alter Shigure, Senya AS SA, Akane NS 5*

>>1781210
Raven AS, Mariel NS SA and Alter Isuka AS

>>1781233
>Alter Isuka AS

I play half a year and have 160 light on Mariel or something like that. I don't know what I did, but she doesn't leave me be. And now this..

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>>1781307
me too, just pulled the trigger on her

>new quest unlocks Senya AS SA
>Senya isn't even involved in the quest
Akane 5* just hits hard but only has self buffs and no debuffs. Also, is Heavenly Tsukuyomi Shadow just added on this update?

>>1782908
I don't know but I will say that I used the twins stat on this boss. It was nice to have to break the meta for a once.

>duel where you like at kurosagi castle in inanari plateau
I don't get how to clear this.

>>1783339
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA1xGu4jyrA
Is it this one?

>>1783351
That was it. Thanks.

>the entire 5* quest for akane
My absolute fucking retard...

>Senya's personal sword has the exact same sprite as Yuri's from the tales collab
Did they run out of budget?

>>1784914
Considering they gave him the biggest brick Stellar upgrade, while giving Akane a solid kit of the very same element, while his pet still doesn't have a 5* version... they lost interest in him.

Well, of course in part Akane got her solid kit to sell Shigure AS, who is weirdly underpowered and is essentially defined by the hit buff, and by the fact that he can deal decent earth damage while not playing in earth and fully works with Tilly ex.. but the latter is stretching it a little and really needs his stellar.

I got the new guy in 1 pull, what's he good for? Am I about to make another 3 niggas and a healer team?

>>1784968
Yeah, he's multipurpose unit like Anabel ES, so just slot him in wherever.

>>1787842
Fun, good to have more flex units

>>1788050
Feel the same. Dedicated units like Sesta and Yuna are all well and good, but I love flexible units more because then I can just make generic teams of my favorite characters and just dick around.
Really hope Parallel Isuka AS isn't too restrictive.

>>1788111
Yeah I just set her up also. She got left behind too quick compared to most alters

Shigure alter with stellar seems to be one of the easier choices for Frogocide. Free type 50% 3 times buff at battle start, and def ignore earth slash 10x XXL strength aoe attack.
Even extreme frogocide should be fairly easy to do with him for new-ish players, while the normal one should be absolutely free. I don't think he really needs much, if any, grasta slaves either, if you have Moke.

I forgot to do the free single daily roll after the first few days despite logging in every day.

>>1791227
Not like we got those whisper drops this time, so it's fine.

>>1791304
It could still be something. Somehow I got NS Renri dupe from today roll so she is 2/3 on SA progress now.

Patch notes are up. What the goddamn fuck is Mariel's Stellar.

>>1792398
Useless, yeah. Singing in ano 2025 when they just revived AF and made that important.
Singers don't contribute to AF. Singers don't contribute to SB. Singers are, for all we care about, a dead slot. All those buffs are nice and all, but one buff wipe and it's over.

Raven AS also seems awful. Doesn't do anything at all unless in fancy mode, but has a 3 turn (!) cooldown after it ends? Incompatible with Kuchinawa due to having his own link?
The huge resistance increase is interesting, because you can basically make him into a pseudo tank.. during this duration. But once it's over, you are dead. Having no rage is also a problem (cover can be provided).

>>1792479
But if we eventually get a character that can inflict something like Stone, Freeze, or Sleep on our own allies, that means we can interrupt her singing every turn so she can then give us infinite Hold Ground.

That manifest banner may be bait, but a guaranteed 5* for 1k free stones is too hard to pass up.

>>1793951
Weird how they "forgot" to put Cetie NS on it. Wonder if there are more.

>>1767623
I just got to the end of the first Mythos. Holy shit, did that questline take FOREVER to get through. Are the other Mythos faster paced?

>>1781307
Is there a character who's got just as many or more versions of themselves than Isuka?
I swear, she's got to be a waifu for someone on staff.

>>1794475
Suzette says hi.

>>1794475
Suzette like the other anon says, and Toova too. If we count NPC appearances, Tsukiha and Anabel are up there too. Though if we include NPCs, then Isuka holds the crown thanks to that Grey Clad version.