>people now pretend SWSH was good
the zelda cycle lmao

You mean Pokemon cycle

Scarlet and Violet was just that shit

Galartrannies have always been delusional, no surprise that "nostalgia" would make them ten times worse.

The XY circlejerk was never big as it was claimed it would be

>>57893600 (OP)
>pretend

>>57893600 (OP)
there were always people that defended those games, tourist

>>57893686
>ooooo I recognize colors and shapes!!!!
Yes yes now what about the gameplay

>>57895426
>overworld encounters instead of random encounter slop
yep gameplay looks good to me. where’s the issue?

>>57895436
And where are those encounters? In a hideous zero effort slop zone where you can walk 5 feet from a freezing hailstorm into a desert brapping up sand or alternatively worthless slop routes that are literally just straight line hallways
SwShit lost

>>57895436
>instead of random encounter slop
Galar literally has random encounters in the small as fuck poorly executed routes though

>>57893686
The graphics might be more stylized but it was still an obviously less advanced game when compared to Mario Odyssey, BotW or Doom 2016. And it set a ton of bad precedents, the dexcut, lack of voice acting, worse and worse gimmicks, and the series still being turn based in 2025.

>>57893686
gen 8 was peak

I have yet to see any valid criticism of swsh. the only thing people can come up with is crying that the devs didn’t waste time making the game worse by cramming the elemental monkeys in it.

>>57895665
They should have made the region unique if they were so insistent on cutting Pokemon, and removed the meta cancer, instead Landorus and Heatran are back, Incineroar gets BUFFED when he needed a nerf, and nothing significant changed for moves or animations to even justify cutting the dex, they only did it for Dynatrash.

That one galarshill is a schizo that got banned multiple times for being a sharteen btw

>>57893600 (OP)
Verlisify says SWSH are great games

>>57893600 (OP)
>now
They've been doing that since Dexit was announced, friend.

>>57895452
>The graphics might be more stylized but it was still an obviously less advanced game when compared to Mario Odyssey, BotW or Doom 2016
? it matches up fine to those games

>>57895910
>doesn't remember the n64 tree
Zoom zoom ZOOM

>>57893600 (OP)
>>people now pretend SWSH was good
Nigger, they've been pretending it wasn't shit back when it came Out, it was literally the biggest selling Pokemon game before SV
Normalfags eat shit like it's cake, nothing new there

>>57893686
I like Boltund but come on.

The game is ass, dynamax in singles and doubles was the worst meta I ever experienced.

I wouldn't know,
Just bought Sword (second hand) but still have some backlog to go through before actually playing it
For once I'll play the female avatar for my first playthrough, the beanie-wearing male avatat is too uncool to selfinsert as I'd rather go for the eye candy route

>>57893600 (OP)
>improved party wide exp share
>postgame battle facility
>cute girls that aren't uggo niggers and trannies
>competent story
>set mode
>beautiful open world with different unique biomes
>memorable gym leaders
>a champion that's actually tough
>no time travel/imagination/wormhole shit
>no parallel universes
>custom characters that actually look custom
>minimal glitches
>less kanto pandering than usual
>interesting DLC and an actual post game
>More freedom to explore than SM; Runs and looks better than SV.
>VGC was the comfiest it's ever been
>dynamax taps into the Kaijukino that founded this franchise
>gigantamax is visually better than megas in every way
>sneaky pebbles BTFO into extinction
>playable on TV>free camera
>restores apricorns
>new movesets
>frequent events
>Is fun
>N-NOOOOOO YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HATE B-BECAUSE.....UMMMMMMMM.....SHE CUTTED STANTLER!

>>57895933
>>competent story
ONE DAY

>>57893600 (OP)
Nobody is pretending this, it's literally children who grew up playing it + a few baiters

>>57895933
trvke

>>57895933
>>improved party wide exp share
By not letting you turn it off ever? Fuck off retard
>>cute girls that aren't uggo niggers and trannies
Still full of niggers for a game set in "Europe"
>>competent story
>muh evil pokemon from space
>>set mode
What game doesn't have this?
>>a champion that's actually tough
If you're a retard
>>no time travel/imagination/wormhole shit
Just ignore the big claw
>>less kanto pandering than usual
The champion's main pokemon is a Charizard
>>interesting DLC and an actual post game
Having DLC at all
>>new movesets
And removed moves
>>N-NOOOOOO YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HATE B-BECAUSE.....UMMMMMMMM.....SHE CUTTED STANTLER!
Just because whatever shitmon you happen to like didn't get cut doesn't invalidate this issue
>cutted
lol ESL nigger

>>57895943
samefag

>>57895980
Obsessed

>>57893600 (OP)
Pretend?

>>57895452
God i hope these games never have voice acting. I can only handle so much.

>>57895936
munna kick

>>57893600 (OP)
They're the best games in the series. Always have been and always will be unless Gen 10 pulls all the stops out.

>>57896116
troon

>>57893600 (OP)
zelda was never good though

>>57895665
>story is by far the worst in the entire fucking series
>all 3 starters look like shit
>legendaries are boring and just kinda show up at the beginning and end
>Wild Area is literally the worst aspects of Open World, and it's ugly too (which is why >>57893686 only shows arena shots and nothing else)
>Pokémon only spawn like 10m in front of you, sometimes they spawn right in front of you when you go fast
>bike outfit looks like absolute fucking dogshit
>lighting on the 3D model looks like shit, everything looks like cheap plastic
>extremely retarded level restrictions for catching Pokémon, if your lead mon is lower level than the wild mon the catch rate becomes abysmally low. It doesn't even matter if the rest of your team is higher level
>raids are slow and piss easy
>dynamax might be the worst gimmick so far
>TMs were shitty until lategame because they don't break
>ending is rushed as fuck which makes the story even fucking worse, also clearly unfinished areas like Spikemuth
>speaking of Spikemuth: that fucking Piers scene
>extreme KANTOOOO jerkoff fest

I could seriously go on forever. They're the worst games in the series.

>>57893634
Nah, SV was better in literally every way except graphics, bugs, and lag. Better chars, better story, more stuff to do, easier than ever to optimize pokemon, you don't need to worry about retarded monkey AI fainting during raids and kicking you out...

>>57893600 (OP)
I wouldn’t say it’s good, but I genuinely believe SWSH is so bad it’s ironically really fun to play through just to laugh at it. The graphics are also nice on the eyes, which you definitely can’t say about SV. Every time I play SV it just feels so hollow that I don’t wanna play it for longer than a few hours. Meanwhile I wanna get to the seventh gym in Galar so that I can watch Piers pretend to sing, but no words are coming out because they couldn’t even try to give a shit about him actually singing. I wanna get to the Eternatus section so that I watch Oleana freak the fuck out and Rose go full-retard. It’s also funny watching Hop go through his emo phase and then crushing him every single time he tries to show that he’s “grown” throughout his journey.

>>57895665
>I have yet to see any valid criticism of swsh

>Galar killed off exploration, every route is just a hallway.
>Galar killed off monster catching,they introduced Dexit.
>Galar killed off competitive , they added a gimmick that turned battles into a 50/50, where it’s just a matter of who loses their Dynamax first.
>ironically every single negative thing about the current franchise can be traced and started at Galar

I'm not surprised the entire thread are people shiftling and zero actual discussion, people simply don't care about the gameplay anymore because they killed off the last remnants of it back in 2019.

>>57896428
>Galar fixed exploration, there's no timewasting on routes anymore
FTFY.
>Galar killed off monster catching,they introduced Dexit.
OH NO I CAN'T CATCH EVERY SINGLE SCRIMBLOMON I DIDN'T EVEN LIKE ANYWAY GAME RUINED
Retard.
>Galar killed off competitive , they added a gimmick that turned battles into a 50/50, where it’s just a matter of who loses their Dynamax first.
Imagine actually caring about competitive gaming. What a fag.
>people simply don't care about the gameplay anymore because they killed off the last remnants of it back in 2019.
No, they don't care about the gameplay anymore because gameplay is the most uninteresting part of any game. It's just a vehicle for the graphics and story- caring about gameplay is like caring about the way the pages turn on a book.

>>57896817
>unironically defending hallways
Opinion discarded

>>57896817
Pokemon anon is about exploration and, like the name implies, catching Pokémon. What's left if you remove those? Nothing.

The fact that there's barely any discussion about the positives or negatives of Galar in the thread proves that Gen 8 is literally slop with no redeeming qualities.

>>57896870
>Pokemon anon is about exploration
No, that's just a side-effect of the early-installment weirdness in oldslop titles.
>and, like the name implies, catching Pokémon.
And you still can. You don't need over 1000 Pokemon.
>The fact that there's barely any discussion about the positives or negatives of Galar in the thread proves that Gen 8 is literally slop with no redeeming qualities.
Nah, it proves that fake fans keep getting their panties in a bunch and shouting down Galargods (true Pokemaniacs) and that said fake fans need to be gatekept harder. SwSh are the best games in the series, with the best visuals, best characters, best story, best and most accessible gameplay and coolest features like Dynamax. If you don't like SwSh you are not a real fan and need to leave the board.

>>57893686
>I post 9 screenshots therefore this mediocre at best glorified indie game is good now

>>57896901
that’s the logic unova fans use, so apparently yeah

>>57893600 (OP)
The best thing about Galar was picrel
The second one was Marnie

>>57896883
>swsh literally killed the gameplay and there's nothing left
that's the literal definition of sloppa

>>57896883
>best story,
HAHHAAAHAHAHAHA
AAAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAAH
PFFHAAHAHAHA
Oh man...! You really got me there anon, hooo!

>>57896428
>>Galar killed off exploration, every route is just a hallway.
Doesn't work like that, defenders will point towards Unova as the culprit of exploration death.
>>Galar killed off monster catching,they introduced Dexit.
Doesn't work like that, defenders will point towards RS not being backwards compatible with the Gameboy games and say "it's always been like this."
>>Galar killed off competitive , they added a gimmick that turned battles into a 50/50, where it’s just a matter of who loses their Dynamax first.
Doesn't work like that, defenders will point towards Gen 4-7, AKA when they themselves personally lost interest in competitive.
>>ironically every single negative thing about the current franchise can be traced and started at Galar
Doesn't work like that, defenders can point at literally any prior generation and impose every single problem as "starting" with that gen.

>>57897354
I thought exploration death was later than unova but earlier than swsh

>>57897371
The common narrative you'll see propped up for the sake of genwar is that Unova did it due to its excess amount of roadblocks and linear region design. It's even overtaken the idea that Sinnoh led to a delayed exploration death due to Mt. Coronet, which they famously scrapped the Azure Flute event because it would be "too difficult for kids to figure out", which is just codeword for "we don't want to make them climb Mt. Coronet again."

>>57893600 (OP)
I'm playing Sword for the first time currently and I like it.

>>57897384
their excuse for not releasing the azure flute is so fucking dumb. there's way more cryptic shit in gen 4 like gaining battle hall fans or honey trees

i think toys r us paid them off so kids would beg their parents to go there

>>57897354
>>57897371
Sinnoh was the start of exploration death. There's at least 2 or 3 moments where the road is blocked off by NPCs who just say something like "tee hee we're blocking this entranceway for no reason" and you're forced to backtrack to Jubilife or something.

>>57897441
Sharty lost.

>>57897407
Let's see if you still like it after the ending, lol.

There's literally nothing wrong with SwSh. It's a good Pokemon game. It's even a GREAT Pokemon game, if we take the DLC in account.
The only problem I can think of, is the underwhelming plot, but honestly, who plays Pokemon for the plot?
Otherwise SwSh+,DLC is a very good game. It has way more content than SV+DLC, that's for sure.

>>57898446
>The only problem I can think of, is the underwhelming plot, but honestly, who plays Pokemon for the plot?
It's literally the only reason to buy the new games you retard. If I want to play competitive I go to showdown. There is no fucking reason to buy it if not for the campaign.

>>57893600 (OP)
Undeniably a better game than plass

>>57893600 (OP)
I legitimately liked the Stadium battles.

>>57899541
Literally the single good part of the game

>>57899482
Turns out when you stop hyperfixating over transferable postgame deermons, there's a lot to have fun over.

>>57899804
>watch bidoof use tackle 30 times
>roll away from dark souls boss but 2000x shittier
lmao nah

>>57893600 (OP)
Turns out when you stop hyperfixating over transferable postgame deermons, there's a lot to have fun over.

>>57899480
Nobody cares about the plot in Pokemon games. There's a lot of cool side content in SwSh, which is a lot more interesting than the plot lol

>>57900340
Basically everyone cares retard, it's the main reason why the majority of people hated it
>side content is more interesting than the plot
That's called a failure

>>57896279
I wholeheartedly agree but you're not supposed to have honest discussion in /vp/