Let's air some grievances, what don't you like about pokemon it can be anything games, cards, toys, the way the franchise is being handled just let it all out

>>57912355 (OP)
Goonersl virgins like you.

>>57912355 (OP)
Gooner virgins like you spamming the board.

>>57912355 (OP)
Always hated event-exclusive content and retarded gimmicks like the underground or e-reader
>Need a "fateful encounter" (event) regigigas to get the regis in Platinum
>Pal Park is completely useless because only the first DS model had a GBA slot
>Can't get a spiritomb without getting a second console (lol) because I need to meet 32 fucking players for it to appear
And this is just Platinum, but it's the same shit for Gens III and V-VII
This shit makes the games feel incomplete for daring to play without cheats, it's like gamefreak never thought that anybody would care to play these games after their generation "ended"

>>57912389
It was the only image I could find that matched the topic. I forgot about that "you know what grinds my gears" meme I'm being dead serious I didn't wanna use a sexual image

>>57912399
Sure

>>57912355 (OP)
I wish Game Freak really did stay a small indie company. Kept their team and their project scope to roughly where they were at with gen 2, just kept learning as the technology improved and focusing on making pokemon the kind of game they wish they could play and releasing when it's ready instead of following the market trends and sticking to a rigid release schedule, say no to the big franchise expansion and not let the success go to their heads. They might not be the greatest games of all time or even the games I want to play, but at least they wouldn't be the generic slop churned out almost every year for the lowest common denominator while half the team would rather work on something else but can't because pokemon IS the business model.

>>57912399
How is the OP image sexual? You crumbled too easily, faggot

I just hate that a single dlc tarnished my hype for the franchise. Yeah sure I could just play base game but the fact that instead of the dlc improving the game, it ultimately dragged the game down for me feels so disappointing. I remember when sv first launched and while people were talking about how the game was bad I was having a blast analyzing the lore and enjoying the characters. Hell sv was my first game that I 100%’ed, pokedex completed. All clothes gotten, close to everyone, battled every single trainer in Paldea. I loved it, and I thought that the sv dlc could’ve made the game outstanding. But instead we got 3 hours of Kieran having an inferiority complex while the game pretends to make Carmine have a character arc, meanwhile it introduces something potentially interesting for Ogrepon and tera turtle with their tera forms while not really expanding on how it works, then the second half was more edgy Kieran moments and then the game referencing Gen 5, while of course forgo’ing the “battle school” being about battling and instead making you do chores for the bb shits or whatever they’re called.

And all of that to get 30 minutes of walking forward without any of the group talk that we got when we entered area zero for the first time. All before showing that terapagos…is in area zero, and has a tera form…and can break a master ball…and then bum rushing Kieran’s ending to his arc while making Carmine and Brair out to be seemingly ignoring his meltdown and telling him to help us before we tell him “you can do it!!!!” And he magically gets better.

If the dlc didn’t exist I wouldn’t be feeling weird about ZA, if the dlc didn’t shrug on the interesting parts of the lore I’d be hyped to see how they’re executing Kalos, if the dlc just understood why I liked sv everything could’ve been good.

It’s just unfortunate, I know I “bought it anyway” but it stings knowing that without the dlc I’d be hyped for ZA

i don't like how fans think there are bad pokemons instead of accepting pokemons as they are and see how to exploit the extensive movepool they have access to
i also dislike the criteria on how people decide wheather a pokemon is siht or not
i dislike hebephiles that want to distance themselves from pedophiles for the same reason normalfags wants to distance themselves from all manners of lolicons

>>57912355 (OP)
i dont like how every time they make improvements in one area they takes 10 steps back in everything else like removing majority of interiors in sv being able to go in pretty much every building has always been one of my favourite things about pokemon, also shit like removing berry farming for no reason, they always add good features to the games then remove them in the next title, all the campnig stuff theyve added stuff isnt as good interaction with your mon as amie

>>57912399
The pic isn't even sexual, the first guy is just ragebating. Probably a coomer himself.

>>57912355 (OP)
mega evos and everything that resembles it (dynamax, whatever). Temporary evos were one of the reasons I didnt like digimon as much as pokemon as a kid, so I dont particularly enjoyed watching it enter the franchise. It just seems so lame that they turn back afterwards…

>>57912355 (OP)
I hate trade evolutions.
>>57912397
Also this, fuck this shit.
Hated both things cause they were the reason why I felt discouraged and never finished the Hoenn pokédex in Gen 3 as a child.
>>57912424
But PLZA is from a different Team from SV's DLC... if you should judge it with a prior game in mind it should be PLA and Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee seeing as those are Team B's work.

>>57912397
>>Pal Park is completely useless because only the first DS model had a GBA slot
That's so evil cause most kids traded up for a DSi
>>57912630
>all the campnig stuff theyve added stuff isnt as good interaction with your mon as amie
Camping feels like a step backwards like every kids dream is petting a pokemon why would I wanna swing a cat toy around they don't even have any special animations they just use their generic attack animations. There should've been an option to pet your pokemon at least

Fairweather millennial investors who've destroyed the TCG. Everything else is fine.

>>57913189
honestly they need to implement harvestmoon as a side game for farming berries and nintendogs as a sidegame for pokemon interaction, they make so much money as are always so lackluster in this type of sidecontent even though people would love it and it would make the game have way more staying power long term, romance with npcs would be cool too but i doubt theyd do that kek

>>57913189
petting pokemon can be problematic

>>57913189
Faggots were mad that some people petted their Kirlias and Machops the hecking wrong way :( prease understand

>>57912355 (OP)
Really tired of open world.

It existed before BOTW I know, I've been alive much longer than that trend has existed in gaming. But it frustrates me to no end that a lot of game series' I enjoy have entered into that subgenre, even if partially. Not just Pokemon either SMT, Elden Ring .

With Pokémon specifically, I just miss having crafted, designed dungeons influenced by the rpgs of old. You'd think trying to give a realistic scale to the world would aid immersion, but for me it's the opposite. Nothing makes me think "wow I sure am playing a video game right now" like an empty, open field with copypasted assets and random items strewn about, like Paldea is victim to the world's most helpful litterers. Even the caves are just simple hollows with pathways.

Give me back Strength puzzles, ice sliding puzzles, teleport mazes, regular mazes, pitch black caves, multiple pathways in routes, dowsing machines, and DUNGEONS. REAL DUNGEONS. Anything to make me use a few braincells for a moment.

Pokemon is committed to the Dexcut, but still adds old and restricted Legendary mons back as DLC updates. I think it's confusing. I thought for a moment that they would have a curated roster for each game and balance around it. They do for Legends, but not Swsh or SV.

Everything felt much simpler when you could just have a full dex on each successive game...

>>57912355 (OP)
I don’t really care for Pokémon as much as I used to, but I do resent how they, along with Nintendo, have both passively and directly taken action to prevent or disincentivize people from creating new monster-collecting games through their actions. Aside from that, I expect very little from them, not just because of their general performance, but also because Nintendo seems to have openly gone all-in on monetization at all costs, so I doubt those decisions will lead to Pokémon games being any better than they already are/have been.

>>57912389
The biggest issue I have in that regard is that they pretty much threw all quality to the curb around gen 7, and with that, started catering way more towards degenerates than they ever have before. I can’t think of a single origin point of degenerates outside specific anthropomorphic obsessions that created more degenerates in my age group than Pokémon Sun and Moon, and I’m almost certain it was intentional, given the character designs, their functionality in the story and shit like “Press A to pound!”

>>57912397
Those were some of the features I liked the most about Pokémon games. Sure, they were a pain to get around years after newer generations came out, but that’s more a problem cause by Game Freak/TPC/Nintendo restricting people from being able to obtain old Pokémon in newer games. It’s always gotta be gated behind some really tedious mechanic or an in-person/paid event.

>>57913256
who do i blame for this

>>57913769
Because the dexcut isn't about curating a roster or out of necessity (lol, lmao) but to sell you DLC with Pokemon you may actually want

>>57912355 (OP)
battle transitions
I want the games to be faster and snappier. they've always been too slow

>>57915011
This is my biggest gripe about the gameplay second to the removal of options and features that leave a positive experience. It's like they're still running the games on the same framework as Red and Green when it comes to battle presentation.
We've gone up from a 160 x 144 pixel resolution to 1280 × 720, why are we still having battle information being shown one line of text box at a time? Pic related.
Why must the game have to pause a second to play the shiny animation? Stadium 2 plays it right as the Poké Ball opens, wasting no extra time.
Why must I press a button to see my opponent's Tera Type when it should be in the main battle UI? The same could be asked for whenever a Pokémon is confused, that saves another text box.
The main battle menu has 4 options and we have 4 buttons on the right side of the controller. Why isn't there an option to have them button mapped so I don't need to press any directional buttons just to run from Pokémon I don't want to battle? Again, Stadium had this.

>>57915064
How hard is it for this big ass textbox to say "klawf's stats rose!" or "klawf's attack and speed rose!"
The UI in general needs an overhaul like why aren't types visible? Why can't I see my type or an opponents type at a glance like there's all that extra space next to the Pokemon's name just slap their type there or use the type icon next to their gender there shouldn't be a gap of space between gender and the pokeball icon something should obviously be there.

>>57915245
>How hard is it for this big ass textbox to say "klawf's stats rose!" or "klawf's attack and speed rose!"
For Game Freak, that must be impossible.
What did this effect of Ancient Power mean by ABILITIES? Look it up at the Library. It has information on moves, items, egg groups, etc. You know, stuff that should be in the Pokédex in the main game? Can be excused back on the Game Boy, not at all now. How come the Pokédex in GSC can search for 251 Pokémon no problem, but SWSH and SV can't do that for their 400+?

>>57915277
you'll buy it anyway

>>57915277
>stuff that should be in the Pokédex in the main game?
You know what that's another thing if they insist on the Pokedex being a phone it should have way more functions like how does a pokemon evolve later evolution methods get so confusing you'd need to look it up, what moves does it learn, go in-depth about what certain abilities do, a tm catalog maybe

>>57915064
This and also weather conditions FUCK
no gamefreak, you don't need to tell me it's still raining/sandstorm/hailstorm
just deal the fucking damage and move on

>>57915351
It's always been a little strange to me the pokedex never lists evolution methods even after obtaining the pokemon

>>57915377
In universe it makes zero sense like think about this from an NPCs perspective how would an NPC get a Runerigus or sirfetch'd?

>>57915351
>newer gens have features outright themed around the pokemon world's internet equivalent
>despite this the game flat out refuses to tell you information that does not need to be hidden at all, and really shouldn't
>all information that you can easily find on the internet btw
>>57915351
you'd think that by now they'd make the pokedex actually display gameplay relevant information about mons
like their weaknesses/resistances, abilities, movepools, stat spreads, EV yields, evolution data, specific encounter information, etc

for a game that is mechanically just a lot of spreadsheets, it sure does love hiding most gameplay information for everything, and not actually explaining mechanics

maybe they wouldn't need to balance for little timmy and his overleveled starter if you could actually learn how the game works beyond the absolute bare essentials without having to look up things online so that little timmy would at least have an idea of how to play the game without having to overlevel a starter

who am I kidding GF actively avoids literally any kind of common sense game design because they know the people actually paying for their games won't care

>>57915500
>who am I kidding GF actively avoids literally any kind of common sense game design because they know the people actually paying for their games won't care
And the people who cared, aside from those who have to for VGC, streaming, etc., stopped buying them.

>>57915351
It should have almost every feature seen in previous devices throughout the series alongside being a Pokédex, most importantly, IT'S A PHONE, WHY CAN'T I CALL THE CHARACTERS I BEFRIEND THROUGHOUT THE GAME AT ANY TIME!? The PokéGear can, the PokéNav can, The Xtransceiver can, what excuse does the Rotom PHONE have!?

>>57912355 (OP)
I hate how The Pokemon Company is gearing their TCG market specifically to pander to the investor market with all this unnecessary fluff that only serves to hike up product prices and scarcity for the casual collectors.

Similarly, merch products fucking suck here in Europe. Why yes, let me buy that Ultra Pro deckbox with stock clip art of [insert currently semi-popular pokemon here] on some low-effort background. It's about damned time they start shipping 'round Europe as well.

Test

>>57912757
Honestly, I think this was the answer I needed to see to feel less negative towards PLZA, thanks anon.

Poketch was so good bros...

>>57915741
>what excuse does the Rotom PHONE have!?
The rotom phone is a fucking technological downgrade on par with the holo caster can't make phone calls, can't play music, Pokedex does the bare minimum, no video calls, no built in vs seeker like the pokenav, no scanner like the rotom dex, apparently can't float for too long considering you need a fucking selfie stick to take far away selfies, it's a pokemon but can't translate what they saying and to make matters worse these things probably cost at least 1000 dollars for less features

>>57917153
>can't make phone calls, can't play music
You can do both of these things, although it's only other characters calling you

>>57917153
>rotom phone
>powers clown bikes
>saves you from steep falls
>now also a zipline
>apparently can't float for too long considering you need a fucking selfie stick to take far away selfies
I think I just had an aneurysm trying to deduct that logic.
>>57917171
While that's true, they're still direct downgrades to the predecessors that did them better.
Sure, it works as a phone, but only when the characters call you as part of the story.
Yes, it plays music, but only after a patch for SV and through the camera app to change the facial expression of NPCs.

>>57915064
Friendly reminder that Legends Arceus condensed all that shit yet Game Freak went back to the same old shit like before in SV.

>>57917153
>you need a fucking selfie stick to take far away selfies
Trying too hard to be like real life really does make things lamer

>>57917995
>Trying too hard to be like real life really does make things lamer
That's why I don't like sword and shield they make the adventure too realistic like besides the team yell stuff nothing of note actually happens until you get to storm rose tower it's gym, rival battles, occasional team yell nonsense and then you go fight oleana and her big pile of garbage. If there's anything you'd normally do in a pokemon game Leon does it. explosion in the distance? Leon does it. Dynamax pokemon going crazy? Leon does it.

>>57915064
>>57917933
If anything, that proves it's all deliberate. PLA was intended for slightly older audiences, so it's faster. The mainline games are designed so that even little kids who can barely read understand what's going. Which is why shit like Shell Smash and multiple hit attacks spell out every single step. It's so that little Timmy can understand what's going on. Because GFs greatest fear is always that little Timmy gets overwhelmed and stops playing Pokémon and never buys a Pokémon toy ever again.

>>57918337
Makes sense to me, let's just hope for more games like PLA (but better) in the future alongside "mainlime" stuff

>>57915806

They've always been cold in the eurozone, presumably because pokemon wasn't as pervasive there. Opening up a branch in LatAm when there's still no shipping center in the EU feels completely insane, but Nintendo in general has always struggled with the euro market.

In the states, it's really only the vanity sets that millennials buy by the hundreds to put in their basement. Not sure what the situation is over there but I'm guessing you guys have worse stock across the board.

>>57912355 (OP)
1. Blatant pandering to furries
2. Starters becoming jobmons, meaning they feel more like characters and fursonas more than actual pocket monsters.
3. Coomers being annoying shitstains who won’t shut the fuck up about how much they want to fuck children and animals
4. Game Freak taking good ideas and half-assing them (i.e. can tackle any gym in any order in SV, but their levels are fixed, meaning you have to do them in order anyway)
5. When I was a kid, I hated limited-time events because I always missed them since they weren’t available where I lived. And yet, though they’re far more accessible now, and arguably for the better, they somehow feel less special.

Most of my grievances are with the fandom rather than with the franchise.

>>57918337
Then why not more Let's Go games? I still remember when they said that LGPE was to attract the GO crowd and SWSH was the game for veterans. What a lie.

>>57918379
>(i.e. can tackle any gym in any order in SV, but their levels are fixed, meaning you have to do them in order anyway)
I'm nitpicking the shit out of you but you can still go out of your way to do them out of order. A lot of open world RPGs do not have level scaling and it was not a problem there, it's just that it's way too easy to overlevel in SV.

>>57918427
Because LGPE was not for kids per se, it was mainly for "dude remember POKEMON??" adult normies. They only care about Gen 1. Everything else is not interesting, so there won't be Let's Go for any other gen.

>>57918371
EU, or at least my country, has nothing that can be found in the Pokemon Center webshop except for some squishmallows, Funkos and a majority of the TCG products (mot accessories). For the rest, we only got third-party licensed products such as UltraPro for TCG accessories. Stuff like toys are your run-of-the-mill shit you find at Walmart too. Not to start on the available clothes, that's exclusively third party stuff.

Used to have a store that sold those premium cast Pokéballs witth display, but that one went out of business a while ago, so we're mostly stuck with uninspired garbage.

>>57918379
>1. Blatant pandering to furries
>2. Starters becoming jobmons, meaning they feel more like characters and fursonas more than actual pocket monsters.
>3. Coomers being annoying shitstains who won’t shut the fuck up about how much they want to fuck children and animals
Non-issues that have existed for as long as the franchise, fuck off retard

>>57918379
>faggot who complains about "muh coomers" is a shitskin with no events in his country
Hilarious

>>57918379
>I hated limited-time events because I always missed them since they weren’t available where I lived
lmao
>Most of my grievances are with the fandom rather than with the franchise
the fandom saar they do not the kindly

>>57918427
>the GO crowd
Not little Timmy

>>57912355 (OP)
I think objectmon are dumb and always were dumb. Should have always just been elemental animals.

>>57918781
>LGPE was not for kids per se, it was mainly for "dude remember POKEMON??" adult normies
>the game with exclusive moves full of extremely childish names
What did they mean by this?

>>57919753
That's the English localisation being fucking retarded, as they often are. No other language does this.
The German name for "Baddy Bad" would translate into "Torture zone", for example.

>>57919919
i hate english translators so much

>>57920000
It's honestly criminal how much fanfiction they put into their "translation". Censorship, too.

>>57919919
Okay but I'm seeing similar linguistic patterns for both the Chinese and Korean translations.
Are you sure the Germans just didn't want to play ball here?

>>57920101
Not the same thing, in Chinese, "double names" are seen as cutesy, not necessarily childish. Tons of pandas in zoos have names like that, for example. Dunno about Korean though.
English has both forced alliteration for literally no reason AND baby talk. The original Japanese names aren't like that either.
Translations are supposed to be translations, not fanfics. The German translations are pretty close to the Japanese attack names, for one.

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>>57919323
>non-issues
big issues that are becoming bigger issues. you should be hanged, so Game Freak won’t pander to you anymore.
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>>57919331
I’m Ukrainian, you fucking morons.

>>57921507
>Getting BTFO irl and online
Sad

>>57921507
>They're big issues because I said so, m'kay? cyka blyat
Ok retard, imagine caring more about "muh coomers" than getting bombed

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>>57912355 (OP)
I dont like that nowadays people only complain or give a shit about how the games run, and not real problems like shitty character design, lack of evil teams or the dexcut

>>57924014
the people that is left already knows those will never be fixed, stupid.

>>57912389
Kys tradcuck

>>57924014
The games not running at the bare minimum 30fps is quite a travesty

>>57924204
Speaking of bare minimum I don't know where the stigmatism against voice acting came from like I've never heard a good case against it just people saying "pokemon fans don't read."

>>57918781
More specifically, it was for millennial parents to share with their kids.

>>57924313
it doesn't really add much and adds whole new element to shitpost about
and not a priority to give GF a new thing to include and somehow fuck up

>>57924313
Fuck off, retard

>>57924324
>not a priority to give GF a new thing to include and somehow fuck up
This is the first good reason I've heard everyone else just calls me an illiterate idiot for asking such a thing in an RPG. Something really needs to change with how game freak presents cutscenes like I don't want the whole game to be voiced I'd take a few yeahs or a uh huh or just snippets of voice lines, you know what I mean? It's very weird watch a cutscene where lips are moving no sound is coming out and you can hear the foley from their clothes moving and feet taping somethings gotta change

>>57912355 (OP)
I haven't enjoyed anything made by Gamefreak since HGSS. No, not even BW2. Those are fun with ROMhacks, I guess. Not even romhacks can fix the atomic dogshit of the 3D era of pokemon games, though. The worlds and overall gameplay are just beyond what you can do with editing some bits, not to mention the constant retarded decisions like dexit and the shit designs.

At least we're getting EoS DX never lmaooooo haha.

>>57924324
>voice acting in mainline pokemon
>expectation: like detective pikachu
>probable reality: like pokemon masters

>>57924313
>I don't know where the stigmatism against voice acting came from
Ever watched an anime dub?

>>57924442
if they make EoS Dx it will have gen 5 pokemon and you will kill yourself promptly.

>>57924481
Rescue Team DX already has Gen 4+ pokemon and I'm still here retard. Try not to let my continued existence make you too upsetti.

>>57924485
>bitches about gen 5+
>JOKES ON YOU I AM A STUPID HYPOCRITE, HAHAH TAKE THAT
Damn retard, thanks for making me go sleep with a smile.

>>57924014
>shitty character design
Gen 9 was definitely ass, using VTubers for designs like Fire Emblem did. Gen 5-8 was just okay, but not good or great. The Pokémon designs have gotten worse though, especially with their direction going more realistic.
>lack of evil teams
Either the writers wanna humanize the teams and their cause, can't make them evil as much for whatever reason or most likely crunch time. I gotta say, the evil teams have run their course.
>the dexcut
Started in Sun and Moon with GameFreak trying to monetize the series more with Pokémon Bank. No one bitched then, so they decided to continue despite the callouts from SwSh. Won't call it a backlash since the games sold well in spite of it.

>>57912355 (OP)
1. I miss dungeons that are actual dungeons. I don't care if the caves have to have a nurse standing halfway through it, there should absolutely be actual dungeons again like there used to be.
2. The NatDex should at least be coded into every mainline game, there's no reason for it not to be, doubly so for the Switch 2 with its added storage and power. It's absolutely bullshit that any game ever cut it, especially when Home exists.
3. The champion of each region should absolutely be of the race of the country that the game's representing, even if Japs suck at that.
4. The only region gimmicks I like are Megas (though I wish they were heavily rebalanced and more widespread), and the IDEA of Z moves. Z moves were pretty cool in concept, but they were lazy as shit and really only made to sell those bracelets and the crystals as toys.
5. Turning Pokedexes into phones is dumb. I get WHY they did that, but it just lost a lot of sovl from the series, even if a few of the dexes were just "Gameboy you're playing the game on, but shaped a little different"
6. I hate that the anime's been slowly devolving into more generic anime tropes over time, like that straight-up no-joke mesugaki alongside the rest of the villains just being generic tropes, especially compared to Jessie and James, who I now miss greatly.
7. I hate that the main fanbase for Pokemon aren't even interested in the games or the media, and that all they care about is the merch. Those fuckin' consoomers are propping up a franchise that doesn't quite deserve it, buying literal billions of dollars of plushies and weird gimmick sleeping bags or "same plushie but black because ???"

>>57912397
The problem there alongside stuff like StreetPass is that they're designed with Japan in mind, where everyone's crowding on trains getting a gazillion hits on their 10-minute train ride to some massive Pokemon event to get an event Pokemon and a fuckload of merch, some free.

>>57924666
>dungeons that are actual dungeons
Holy fuck, yes, never made that connection in my brain but losing dungeons in favour of pushing open world is not a trade off I have ever wanted them to make. Goddammit.

>>57924660
>the dexcut
>Started in Sun and Moon
I get what you mean, but that's conflating the context of dexcut in why most who have issue with it do.

>>57924666
>I hate that the anime's been slowly devolving into more generic anime tropes over time
Retard

>>57924666
>mesugaki
How is this bad

>>57912397
I liked that stuff as a kid. I was also a spoiled shit that had internet access and Action Replays though.
One of my favorite memories was finding Regigigas in Snowpoint Temple, having no idea how to wake it up, then finding out there was an elaborate puzzle I had to in Emerald then transfer the Hoenn regis up first. Was fun

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>>57925478
anime tropes bad

>>57912355 (OP)
Grievances in order of least annoying to insufferable
KANTOOOOO obsession: least annoying cause Kanto getting a little extra makes sense, but it was unbearable during gens 6-8 but since then they've been letting other older gens get nice things
Powercreep: at least understandable due to the sheer number of Pokemon and how long the franchise has been going, butgrom Gen8+ its been too damn much. And Game Freak seems to revel in leaving older mons to languish.
Fandom: I owe Steven Universe fans an apology, Pokefags are the fucking worst. Most hateful, cannibalistic, unfunny, crab-in-bucket, retarded, motherfuckers on the internet.
Game Freak themselves: Sloppily run, unwillingness to evolve, constantly tripping over their own feet whenever they get of their asses and try, decades behind everyone else in the industry, small indie mindset despite getting triple AAA money and worship, every game seems like a beta test for something actually good that never comes. No other segment of TPC feels like this, only Game Freak.

>>57915351
you wanna now something funny? GO actually does this, at least with moves.

>>57927719
>I owe Steven Universe fans an apology, Pokefags are the fucking worst.
Steven Universe fans are still worse because that literal tranny show deserves no fans at all and the cancer it spread online is worse than anything you can blame on Pokémon.

>>57927810
As with every piece of media with that Tumblr energy ilk that also should've never gotten popular, truly some of the worst fanbases I've had the misfortune of coming across. Having part of that cancer infest Pokémon is the grievance that I find the most insufferable with the franchise at this point, a back-breaking straw on top of everything else making the franchise worse.
>>57927719
>small indie mindset despite getting triple AAA money and worship
Is it me or is Game Freak also chasing for clout between all that? A small indie mindset, yet at the same time, Ed Sheeran is blaring through the SV credits. Why? For what purpose? Is this supposed to be part of a main entry in the Pokémon video game series or some western blockbuster movie trying to sell albums?

>>57912355 (OP)
It pisses me the fuck OFF how half-assed the worldbuilding is. It's all so inconsistent and nonsensical. They didn't put any fucking thought into it.

Everything about language is completely fucking incoherent. The concept of multiple languages exist - yet the languages are never named. You see characters using French and Spanish, even languages that don't even have a region based on them like German and Chinese. But they just never name these languages. French is not even called "Kalosian" or something.
On top of that, the existence of other languages is never actually relevant. All characters can communicate with each other perfectly fine the first time they meet, no matter where they are from. People from Paldea can travel to Kitakami, which is a small ass town on the other side of the planet, and talk with the locals there. AND YET there's a handful of nameless NPCs that revolve around the fact that they can't speak the local language. THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY FUCKING SENSE! Where the FUCK are these people from?? I fucking hate that they include the concept of other languages but completely half-ass everything about it. Just fucking don't do it then!
Same with the written language. Since a few gens ago, they started using a made-up writing system. But there's no logic to it. There's no consistency at all. Different media use completely different scripts. They reuse the same "words" for completely different contexts. What's the fucking point??
If they want me to believe that the Pokémon world uses a fantasy language, then fucking ACT LIKE IT. Make them speak gibberish like the Monster Hunter language or something. Easiest fucking way to include voice-acting too. Literally just think about it for more than 5 seconds beyond "let's include real languages in the game!" Do literally anything that makes me believe that you actually care, that the Pokémon world is not just a marketing ploy to sell toys.

>>57928227
Another thing that has completely fucked up worldbuilding is food.
So there's berries that are CLEARLY based on real fruit and vegetables, but there's ALSO REAL WORLD FRUIT AND VEGETABLES?? What the fuck are you doing? What's the fucking point of the berries then?? Why the fuck does Arven's art show him holding a tamato berry, but sandwiches just use normal ass tomatoes?? What's the berry doing there you dumbfucks? Why not use the fucking berry to make the stupid sandwiches more unique? Why use apples and banans when you could use leppa and nanab berries and have some fucking fun with your setting? Oh of course SOMETIMES you do that, like the candied berries in Kitakami. But only sometimes because fuck you, you only deserve afterthoughts.
And don't even get me started on meat. Oh you can put bacon on your sandwiches? WHERE IS THAT FROM? DID YOU KILL AND BUTCHER A LECHONK? No of course not, Pokémon are our friends! But we gotta have meat so here's your fucking mystery meat I fucking guess. Just don't ask where it's from. Don't fucking think about it because CLEARLY neither do they. We are just supposed to turn off our brains and not think about the fact that they are apparently killing and butchering creatures that have human-level intelligence to eat them. Just simply ignore that fact! Look at the tasty meat, yum yum! :)

This shit makes me so mad. Pokémon's single strong suit is the fact that it's a different world. A utopia that is similar, yet very different from our world. A different reality you should immerse yourself in. And yet it's so poorly thought out sometimes that makes it seem so very disingenuous and insincere. Like they're thinking "whatever, just make some shit up, don't think about it, our retarded fans will eat it up anyway". I fucking hate it. Fuck you. Put some fucking work into the world that so many people love. Stop half-assing shit.

>>57912397
>>Pal Park is completely useless because only the first DS model had a GBA slot
Actually the original fat ds AND the ds lite had it, it was the dsi that dropped it for no good reason and that was closer to gen 5 so most players with an interest in pal park had already moved the bulk of their shit over. The gen 4 to gen 5 transfer requiring two systems was kind of a pain, but it's not like gen 1 to gen 2 didn't and eshop/digital games hadn't taken off yet Nintendo was still cautiously testing those waters in the wii/ds days so we didn't have bank yet. An adult with a big collection to transfer would have no trouble holding on to their old ds for a while, a lot of kids would have handed theirs down to younger siblings or been the younger sibling getting the hand-me-down so you could borrow each other's to transfer, only-children who's parents didn't spoil them or people selling the old hardware to pay for the new had to find a friend or get screwed. I'm glad those headaches are behind us but it wasn't like you were buying two systems up front just to transfer pokemon.

>>57928227
>>57928229
you are a man child, a disappointment to your mother and a stark reminder to your father of the importance of pulling out.

>>57928418
My mother loves me, we founded a successful company together and work in medical care. My father is an asshole loser drug addict who deservedly lost everything he loved. Cut contact like a decade ago, good riddance.
Weird projection but ok. Care to tell me why my post upset you?

>>57928229
>And don't even get me started on meat. Oh you can put bacon on your sandwiches?
I don't think you need meat in curry so why introduce it maybe it's a vegetable or onions substitute but that would imply those food items existed before and the world just stopped using them then you got shit like slowpoke tail curry or kingler curry which clearly has either a dead pokemon or a dismembered pokemon in the food. That also begs the question, why aren't slowpoke tails illegal anymore maybe they were never illegal and it was just team rockets method that was illegal

>>57914623
>“Press A to pound!”
Coombrained degenerate. This has no sexual meaning beyond people using it as a meme.

>>57928391
fair

>>57914623
>>57928479
>muh degenerates

>>57928448
>daddy issues
imagine my shock

>>57912355 (OP)
i hate everything pokemon related except for singles OU in showdown + pokemon hentai.

>>57928665
Not really, shit went down when I was already an adult. He was pretty normal before that.
Nice try, though. You dodged my question btw. Still waiting for an answer.

>>57928720
i just wanted to post my watch

>>57928733
Go to /fa/ or something then. This thread is about shit that annoys you about Pokémon, not watches.

>>57928469
Yeah the whole Slowpoke tail shit is seriously insane. First they tell us that it's extremely cruel and only done by criminals, but now we use them ourselves? What the fuck?
It's like they really can't decide if Pokemon are being eaten or not. Or just don't expect people to think about it and hope they can get away with the whole implication. Fucking dumb.

>>57928759
1st occurence - plot device to be taken seriously
Further occurences - hey remember when we mentioned this thing? please enjoy this reference
No thought put in from GF beyond that

>>57928806
Yeah exactly. It seriously seems like they don't think any further than "dude wouldn't it be cool if we did that? Lol!" And that's fucking embarrassing. They don't give a shit.

>>57928418
>>57928733
Sir, this is a Pokémon confessional.
I do admit, it is a cool watch and I miss the Pokétch. Funny how smartphones are now a thing in Pokémon, smartwatches are now a thing in the real world, and yet there's no Pokémon game that has the both a smartphone and a smartwatch together.

Not a big deal, but I don't think mushroom based pokemon should be plant type

>>57924014
>Shitty character design
The focus has always been on the mons, for better or for worse.
>Lack of evil teams
That's been an issue since gen 3, it's not going anywhere.
>Dexcut
It's why I haven't bought anything past USUM and won't unless Game Freak changes their minds.

That said, most fans could excuse most of that because at least the games played well as games even if they were boring. When they stopped doing even that, people started noticing.

>>57912355 (OP)
I fuckin hate megas
I was glad they were dead but now they go full mega shill mode again because of ZA, fuck that noise
>>57928733
You really went into this thread, picked a random guy's posts and shit on him for literally no reason just to post your watch huh
That's pretty fuckin retarded ngl bro, you compensating for something 100%

>>57929214
to be fair, Pokemon isn't the only franchise that treats mushrooms like plants but its a pet peeve of mine too

>>57930276
>>57929214
Are you hoping for it to get its own type or just not always be plant?

>>57930298
Like would mushroom pokemon just be like ground types or something like ground types aren't always rocks they're just things that live under the dirt shiinotic could've been ground/fairy

>>57930298
I feel that getting their own type would be a bit much and would require a shit ton of rebalancing, so the latter

>>57929431
>I fuckin hate megas
>I was glad they were dead
Why?

>>57930558
>extremely shallow mechanic (hurr press button at the start of the turn to win)
>gimmick that only a small selection of mons can use so you're forced to add one them to your team if you want to use it
>very few good designs, most are mid to shit
>they give megas to shillmons who don't need a powerboost instead of to shitmons
>also single stage megas are fucking retarded, just give them an actual evolution
Megas suck shit

This thread is full of autism

>>57931312
>website for autists is full of autism
Say it ain't so man

>>57931308
>>they give megas to shillmons who don't need a powerboost instead of to shitmons
>>also single stage megas are fucking retarded, just give them an actual evolution
These are probably my biggest gripes with the mechanic too. The second one, especially, became pretty grating to me when I saw Mega-Audino.

>there's a rotom in your pokedex in SM
>you can't actually register rotom in the pokedex in SM

>like a pokemon
>cannot use it at all normally because it got the "mythical" designation
>didn't live in tokyo 20 years ago so it's impossible to get
>even to this day the best case scenario is paying for a completely different game for some random NPC to give you one
>if you actually got it from an event it was often such a high level it was impossible to use in a run
>have to save edit/cheat/glitch just to use it
>this also makes it a special snowflake mon so people give you shit for using it ingame despite the games routinely having far more OP pokemon early on
>even if you have one you can't use it in facilities

Why's this shit gotta be so taboo? Just let me use the pokemon I want to.

>>57912355 (OP)
I hate how spin off games are being treated to just shitty phone apps and only mainline games get attention. I want more Pokken and PokePark damn it.
I also hate how long it took get away from the Ashime. It was a nice to see Liko not go the 8 badge route and job at the league, but Pokemon Concierge was comfy too.
There's just so much potential in spin offs in general, but the only spin offs we're seeing is just merchandise and that's Japan only.

>>57933196
unfortunately mobileshit prints too much money

>>57933196
>I hate how spin off games are being treated to just shitty phone apps
I hate that mobile games take up maybe 95% of the time in pokemon presents like it's never shit that could've just been dropped on a random Tuesday not the pokemon equivalent to a Nintendo direct

>protect in levelup moveset
>gen 5+ sturdy
>Static

All of this shit just wastes your time ingame, and in Static's case, so many electrics get it that you're always wishing for something more useful

>>57928227
As someone who also enjoys getting immersed in a fictional setting's worldbuilding, I too am also sickened at the lack of care for these details.
>they started using a made-up writing system. What's the fucking point??
To save time and effort on what is ultimately unimportant text for playing the game when the series moved from sprites and Japanese release first to full 3D models with textures and simultaneous worldwide release. I understand why, but I still don't like it because of how it's been handled and how it's not compatible with the Pokémon world of earlier entries, even if shortly after the change they just admit, "Fuck it, we're officially multiverse now."
New fake alphabet out of nowhere, never explained, some text you can read what's been replaced if you look hard enough, some characters replace one letter in a word and a different letter in another, it's in that middle ground where it's infuriatingly consistent and inconsistent at the same time. The only thing consistent is the character set representing the replacement of their real world counterparts: Thus far, the one introduced in SWSH replaces English, Spanish, and French and the one introduced in BDSP replaces Japanese. Yet, we also have Gen 6's glyphs, Alolan, and LGPE Japanese. Does Alolan replace Hawaiian or English?
Then you have the spin-offs and other media. Each individual spin-off from Pokkén to Masters EX to New Snap to Detective Pikachu Returns all have their own alphabets and the anime has multiples as far back as Gen 5; they have their own version of Alolan and Horizons has one used in everywhere in its world.

The worst example I've seen in the main games was in SV; there's a signpost with two signs pointing in different directions, yet the text for both signs are the same.
The worst example I've seen in all Pokémon media is the Horizons version of the Scarlet Book; two completely different substitute alphabets replacing what should be the same language in the same book.

>>57933377
Zubat spam with supersonic AND confuse ray
geodude and graveler with explosion and selfdestruct
intimidation and weather effects

>>57933566
The one for the Detective Pikachu I just double-checked, but it really irks me.
Detective Pikachu 3DS used the small smudgy shapes that vaguely resemble letters and were able to get away with it thanks to the 3DS's low native resolution, but for bigger text like the door to the Baker Detective Agency or the sign of a café, they're in English, even when the game is played in other languages.
Detective Pikachu Returns uses its own substitute alphabet for everything.
What's irksome is that unlike the mainline games where you could just slap the multiverse excuse before and after the text change, these are two story-reliant adventure games within the same continuity, DPR taking place 2 years after the original. You expect me to believe that Ryme City changed their whole writing system in that amount of time?

>>57913677
This. Fucking this. Pokemon and open world is an awful mariage. GF can't into open world. It makes nugen regions bland and shitty.

>>57933611
There are more Geodudes and Zubats in a Sinnoh playthrough than there are stars in the sky.

Bump

>>57912355 (OP)
>Pokémon fans being unable to understand the middle ground and accepting the other extreme as a solution to a problem.

>>57918379
>Game Freak taking good ideas and half-assing them (i.e. can tackle any gym in any order in SV, but their levels are fixed, meaning you have to do them in order anyway)
This. And then there are some fans that lead to the problem above.

>>57927719
>>57933354
These as well

>>57912355 (OP)
this is an unpopular opinion here but i always hated the violence of pokemon battles.
my interest in the series lies more in the world building, monster designs and ecology of the pokemon world.

I hate the ever-growing focus on humans. I'm playing these games for the pokemon, not some dumb anime bitch.

>>57935103
Agreed. Even this board focuses way too much on the humans than the Pokemon. The main focus should always be the fictional species, not humans.

>>57935103
You can only do some much with "animals that are almost as smart as humans but they can't talk". All things considered, they're doing a decent job at making the stories related to Pokémon, even when humans are important in them. They definitely care about that, considering they cancelled a movie because they thought it had too little focus on Pokémon.

We definitely do need more Mystery Dungeon though, or something that tells stories in a similar way at least.

>the pokemon say their names in the show/entirely too many fanworks
This shit has always been horrible.

>>57912355 (OP)
God fucking damn it, what's with all the Gardevoir obsessed people? When I was in college, I had a roomate. Dude was fat, smelly, and obsessed with Gardevoir. He had Gardevoir T-shirts, Gardevoir posters, a Gardevoir plushie, and I swear to God, he had a Gardevoir Japanese fuck pillow. Every fucking conversation we had, he turned it into Gardervoir conversation. I wanted to punch him so bad, but I couldn't. I got anger issues, and just one fuck up could get me out of college. But I swear to God, sometimes I thought it would be a just price for punching that fat motherfucker in the face. I kept finding Gardevoir pictures EVERYWHERE. Some of them were covered in cum. Every night I heard him jerking off, and no matter how many times I asked - he did it anyway.

Once he said to me: "Hey Anon, we are having Pokémon night this Friday, are you cool with that?" I had an all night videogame LAN party that Friday, so I allowed that, but only if his buddies wouldn't touch any of my stuff. At all.

Long story short - LAN party got cancelled, and I had to go back to my room. My God, what I saw could not be described. Four fat nerds, watching the Pokémon anime, eating Cheetos, and covering everything with orange dust. One of those fatasses wore a fucking Gardevoir suit and another one was smoking. And they were sitting on my bed. That's right, those fuckers were sitting on my goddamn bed, covering it in Cheetos dust, cigarette ash and sweat. They haven't noticed me, because they were too busy watching anime. I was about to scream on top of my lungs and punch them, when Gardevoir appeared on the screen. All four pulled their dicks out in one synchronised movement and started to masturbate. I wish I was making that up. Even today this comes back in my nightmares.

I gave my roomate a head concussion, knocked a few teeth out of others, and shattered suit guy's kneecap. Got into serious trouble, but my lawyer pulled my ass out of the fire. I fucking hate Gardevoir

>>57935368
Sounds like you roomed with an average /vp/ gooner.

>>57935257
I hate that shit too. The anime only introduced this shit so little Timmy could remember the name of the toy his mom should buy him. Literally a shitty advertisement marketing ploy.
I'm glad the games usually still try to do their own thing, both with cries and what Pokémon say in "dialogue". Thank god they didn't do the Pikachu thing with every Pokémon cause they easily could've.

>>57934988
>here
or anywhere for that matter, lol

>>57935368
Cool copypasta btw.

>>57928229
I like to think that the Pokémon world still has that bit of Gen 1 worldbuilding where it's basically the real world only with near future sci-fi tech and magical monsters that can fit in your pocket, it's just that the franchise's focus is on said monsters, so real world animals, which the humans there are most likely to consume their meat from over Pokémon depending on their ethics, take a massive back seat as to not cause much confusion. Real world animals still have to exist in Pokémon not only for ecological reasons, but also how else did they get all these words for a Pokémon's category like Hermit Crab or Toxic Monkey?
If Pokémon are similar to youkai or cryptids when it comes to being similar, yet different to real world animals and the like, then the berries could be considered the Pokémon parallel of real world fruit. A taxonomist would have a field day studying a cherry, a Cheri Berry, and a Cherubi.

Pokemon Champions looks interesting, but I'll be disappointed if it doesn't eventually include all Pokemon. At the very least, it should be compatible with everything but rotate for different years or whatever. People said it was cringe to care about Stantler and other shitmons back in SwSh, but I don't care. The freedom of using any Pokemon from across the catalogue against friends or randoms online was fun.

For other grievances, there are a lot of weird little changes that just confuse me.
>Can't turn on Set Mode
>Can't turn off Battle Animations
>TMs are breakable again
>"""Crafting"""
>Pushing VGC and multiplayer, but removing online features like the GTS or VS Recorder
>Capping the PC at 32 boxes, when XY went from 24 to 31

>>57936527
>>Can't turn on Set Mode
>>Can't turn off Battle Animations
>>TMs are breakable again
>>Pushing VGC and multiplayer, but removing online features like the GTS or VS Recorder
Wait, really? Why the fuck would they do this?

>>57912355 (OP)
It has become unbearably fucking slow, I think pokemon might be the last RPG on the planet that doesn't have an option to increase battle speed by 2x, 3x, or more, and how they still drag out every little message and pop up so little Timmy(illiterate) doesn't miss out on the finer details

I know multi hit moves are a fucking meme at this point but I can't help but think of games like Monster Sanctuary where a whole 3v3 turn can play out in the time it takes pokemon to process one instance of fury attack

>>57936588
>a whole 3v3 turn can play out in the time it takes pokemon to process one instance of fury attack
Imagine a 3v3 battle six klawfs on the field each of them only knows multi-hit moves anger shell procs one each of them, how long do you think the battle would take?

Stop running restricted series for so fucking long it should be like the last few months or a little more of a generation not half the god damn lifespan of the game.

>>57936585
greed and laziness

>>57912355 (OP)
I wish there was some top down cohesion with the entire brand.

A new generation comes out? bring out the movie about the legendary, bring out the Pokemon Adventures manga tied to that generation even if its literally only the first 1-3 chapters planned

Everything feels like its on such a delay, Lugia/Celebi/Mewtwo etc all banged so hard because there was so much press around them, now non-box legendaries come and go as a random mystery gift, Zeraora looks cool as fuck, I have no idea where he comes from or what his deal is, put him in the manga, give him a movie he was released in like 2020 lmao.

>>57936737
Wasn't there a point where the adventures manga couldn't keep up with releases and had like six series running concurrently?

>>57936751
yeah its a mess, which is a shame, I've been able to get more friends into reading the Pokemon manga from the start than I have been able to get back into the video games (Pokemon go was a huge opportunity, a few bought 3DS's and Sun/Moon but the tutorial was so fucking boring and lasted the entire game, very handholdly)

Pokemon Adventures is peak pokemon storytelling, I still think if the series/anime aged at all with its audience and just had a slightly above preschool age range storytelling (elite 4/gym leaders evil, cooler legendaries, any revernece at all for its player characters past red) the series would be in a better place than just heres 40 more pikachu merch ideas.

They get so much milk out of Red and Blue as mythical trainers but do next to nothing with Gold and the rest

>>57936737
>Zeraora looks cool as fuck, I have no idea where he comes from or what his deal is, put him in the manga, give him a movie
He was in the Power of Us movie with lugia (yes, again) and zeraora's role was more of a cryptid that some girl found living in the woods and befriended. It's pretty good for a pokemon movie, every character Ash meets gets a propper backstory and development arc and the art is nice for digital animation. It's set in that movie only reboot timeline so Ash is traveling alone with pikachu, on one hand that saves it from the gen 7 anime's pitfalls but on the other it discards all prior stuff outside of the previous movie with ho-oh and marshadow.

>>57936527
>Pokemon Champions
>immediately thought of the trainer class instead of the upcoming battle sim
I hate this. Why couldn't they call it Pokémon Arena or Pokémon Bowl or Pokémon Championship? Just something that isn't an already a widely used term within the franchise.
>I'll be disappointed if it doesn't eventually include all Pokemon
Be disappointed. From what it looks like in the fine print that it's already planned that not all Pokémon will be in and not just from the starting roster. I'm already disappointed that it's for Mobile. For any game, that's not a good sign.
>>57936633
The 20 minute battle timer would run out before it could inevitably finish.

>>57936633
What's really funny to me is that they seem to be doing anything they can to speed up fights without confronting the core issues. Faster transitions, faster move animations, faster health bar animations, making the overwhelming majority of trainers have 3 pokemon or less, even shit like offensive powercreep and using doubles as the official competitive format to keep tournaments on schedule. All of this when they could just do like Monster Hunter Stories 2 and have 2x game speed as the online standard.

>>57937277
You say that but the games still have an ungodly amount of delay between everything in a fight, and there's the fact they're allergic to showing more than 1 line of info in a text box. You don't even need Crit/Effectiveness text boxes, you could realistically make that some text that pops up under the enemy HP bar now. Just that alone would save tons of time.

>>57937285
Exactly, the text bloat is one of those core issues. So much of what bogs down battles could be reduced to instantaneous popups, or just have the text and the effect play simultaneously. Instead of
>X used Bulk Up!
>attack animation plays
>stat boost animation plays with a little rising jingle
>X's Attack rose!
>stat boost animation plays with a little rising jingle
>X's Defense rose!
you could just have two quick popups of Attack ^ Def ^ on the user with no additional text at all. At that point all you need is some signaling to quickly distinguish effects. Color coding, icons, sounds, that shit's basically there already, it just needs to be expedited and gamefreak fucking REFUSES to make that leap.

>>57937277
>>57937285
>>57937321
It's insane to think that because of this, having shiny Pokémon is a legitimate strategy in PVP if you're stalling because the game has to spend a couple extra seconds to play the shiny animation.
Speaking of, I think Individual Values has got be one of, if not, the worst intended mechanic in the series. A lot of issues and time spent in teambuilding could be solved if they were simply removed and would greatly benefit both PVP and single player. Any time I ever have to deal with them in a game, it's not fun.

>>57938137
The games really just have to bite the bullet and gut IVs outright. I don't care if some pokemon wants a 0 in speed or one pokemon needs an autisically specific stat in defense or if they want 0 in attack due to confuse damage that never crops up anyways. Gut them all and to all those niche cases, tough shit.
While we're at it, natures. The last thing I want to do after catching a pokemon is to catch it again because it has its most important stat cut by a significant amount

>>57938137
>>57938159
Retard

>>57938159
Players adapted to other changes over the generations that ruined some niche strategies, they'll adapt to the loss of IVs.
I understand the flavor reasoning for both IVs and Natures, to give more individuality to each Pokémon even within the same species, but there's realism and there's going too realistic that it no longer makes the game an enjoyable piece of entertainment if you fully understand the game's mechanics, which is a requirement for high level play.
What should have happened was when the hidden stats changed in Gen 3, DVs were replaced with Natures rather than replaced with IVs and add Natures on top of it. I think Natures are okay and the right balance of video game and realism with the intended flavor. Mints are an acceptable band-aid for the stat alterations Natures provide, but I have other issues with them.
>57938170
Thanks for proving our point.

>>57938270
What point? You don't have a point
It just isn't as complicated as you want to make it seem, retard

>>57938270
>hurr pokemon isn't like fighting games or cod durr
>Thanks for proving our point
xitter is that way, sister

>repetitive gameplay
>when training EVs and maxing IVs is easier than ever before
lol, you don't even need to breed pokemon to get max IVs anymore
Stop being retarded

>>57938361
>>57938365
>>57938373
Some of us are trying to air our grievances over things we don't like about Pokémon in this thread. Instead of providing a counter-argument, you just come in and call them retarded without any elaboration, appearing to be "defending repetitive non-gameplay to maintain a false sense of superiority," adding more evidence about Pokémon having a dumb fanbase in their eyes.
Worst of all, you didn't even show us a cool watch to go with your insult.

>>57933377
I think electric types are too similar in general, I think it says a lot that the most successful ones tend to be the ones that break the furthest from the mold.

Bump

>>57912355 (OP)
faggot cryptobros who didn't give a shit about pokemon 5-10 years ago all of a sudden care and conveniently their favorite cards are always either chase slop from modern sets or ones that are $100$.

>>57939705
The domino effect of Logan Paul going to one of his boxing matches with a holographic Charizard card has ruined Pokemon cards forever

>>57933354
>mobile games take up maybe 95% of the time in pokemon presents
It's not for the players, it's for the investors.

>>57933566
>The worst example I've seen in the main games was in SV; there's a signpost with two signs pointing in different directions, yet the text for both signs are the same.
I can't believe people defend this shit. It's trivial to the overall game experience but it's a clear sign that they don't really care.

>>57941309
>it's a clear sign
kek, but seriously, look at it

>>57941558
Holy fuck, why? Do they not know how to render to a texture then render the sign with the texture so they can use the readable text without having to redo textures for every language? It's literally just like overlaying a textbox except you write the text's pixels onto the blank sign texture instead of the textbox texture and use that when rendering the sign instead of the default texture. It'd look cleaner, be more immersive, work with any language, and have slightly less performance cost because the gpu wouldn't have to calculate the text boxes' transparency over the complete background image after drawing the text to the text box and rendering the sign itself. Why do I struggle to find a job in my field while these hacks who can't even make a 3d game that's up to the standards of 2007 with today's tools will never have to seriously look for work again?

>>57942210
>Do they not know how to render to a texture then render the sign with the texture so they can use the readable text without having to redo textures for every language?
Game Freak and inability to program is like peanut butter and jelly.

>>57913194
>>57939798
>>57939705
Pokemon's TCG is dog shit now because they dumb shit down and try to appeal to investors. The investors have made collecting things miserable trying to make grails of random cards and hype them up on X.

>>57941558
This should be ridiculed more than the tree in Galar's Wild Area.

>>57942565
Hope you enjoyed your niche hobby cause now you gotta avoid getting wario shoulder charged by fat scalpers at target

>>57941309
>It's trivial to the overall game experience but it's a clear sign that they don't really care.
THIS, is not about the signs or trees or the animations (there are far more pertinent issues with the games anyway), Its about respecting your audience enough to put effort into the world you want them to pay 60+ dollars to experience. Also think about Pokemon as a series, What is even here? lack of challenge? uninspired story telling? one note characters? boring battle system? laughable performance? One of the few things Pokemon used to get right was immersion and with Pokemon being an RPG (albeit baby's first RPG but an RPG nonetheless) this was the most important thing to get right, setting a world for you and your 6 or so super powered buddies to explore then reminisce about said adventure with your bros.
and even with this the cracks have been apparent from the beginning but were genuinely excusable due to literally being a small indie company and the average game back then having less cartridge space than an average modern day image. But as the gaming industry evolved Game Freak either refused to step up their game, or too incompetent to do so

>>57942707
I have given up and sold everything. fuck this hobby.

I just buy the occasional ETB that I think looks cool, my sympathies for you though

>>57942565
How's the gameplay of it been in recent generations? I hear they've simplified the weaknesses and resistances to illogical levels.

>>57942210
>>57942564
What if it's something more deliberate than Game Freak's incompetence? Why do the spinoffs need to make their own fake alphabets? Why does the anime? Blame 4Kids? Why do they change it every series? What about the miniseries like Pokétoon or Concierge that uses the ones from the main video games? Even the TCG isn't exempt from this. Nobody had a problem with the real alphabets before, why the change? Doesn't making a fake alphabet take more effort?
>>57942770
>Its about respecting your audience enough to put effort into the world you want them to pay 60+ dollars to experience.
These substitute scripts and how they're used come off as disrespectful, no matter how good or bad the entry in question is.

Bump

>>57943812
it's retarded and basically centered around 2 prize pokemon now.
>>57943383
I just wish you didn't have to go to a restock to get them or pay 3-4x msrp. I hate trying to bother with those because there's just a bunch of scalpers and retards.

>>57945064
>Doesn't making a fake alphabet take more effort?
For stuff like the anime and the tcg where they want to reuse the artwork without having to redo the text for each language, it does save time because they don't have to worry about kids who don't know English being left out if they default to English or the rest of the world not getting it if they default to Japanese, if it's all nonsense anyway then it doesn't matter and it'll be culturally neutral. For that and world building purposes fake languages make sense, but if they're gonna be lazy and inconsistent about it then it's a detriment to world building. As for any text that IS important for the audience to read, such as the signs in game, it's extra work because they're making fake text in addition to the real text they'll need to put over it.

>>57912355 (OP)

Orre games used normal Japanese for things like billboards, also the Team Snagem jackets. That's why I thought the new alphabet was weird.

>>57947252
Does Fire Blast still make the 大 character in SV?

>>57947270
Yes, but it's quick and gets kinda lost in the general fireball.
https://youtu.be/ydPDdesM1-g

Bump

Fuck Mythical Pokemon
Fuck FOMO

>limited amount of TM's
>waste slots with completely worthless moves as TM's
Who in the hell has ever used Embargo?

>>57924660
whe I talk about the dexcut I mean that not every pokemon can be used to play in the newer games, like tyrantrum, solrock or lopunny cant be used on Scarlet/Violet because they are not programmed because muh gamefreak smol southamerican studio

>>57912355 (OP)
I fucking hate the state of Modern Pokemon; and how incompetent Game Freak is compared to the rest of Nintendo and their related companies.
>Mario goes back to his roots with a collectathon inspired by the SM64, and other collectathons of the era
>Zelda gives you a huge sprawling open world to explore; sure we're all probably regretting it now, but back then it was revolutionary
>Kirby... admittedly stumbled at first, but the pink puffball's first fully 3D game in Forgotten Land more than made up for Star Allies' shortcomings
>Smash brings back everyone, and adds several long standing fan requests, such as Ridley, King K. Rool, and Banjo & Kazooie, before culminating in fucking Disney joining the roster with Sora. Your stance on the characters may vary, I fucking hate Sora, but there's no denying there will never be another game with Mario, Sonic, Mega Man, Cloud, Ryu, Simon Belmont, Steve, and Sora all on screen at once ever again
Meanwhile, Pokemon is actively getting worse and worse, and is making more than the series I've mentioned.
As long as shills like Joe Merrick are around, Pokemon will never truly be amazing. I just want it to be 2008 again and I'll actually feel happy playing a new Pokemon game...

>>57939705
>WHATS UP GUYS TODAY WERE OPENING 10 PRISMATIC EVOLUTION BOXES
>THERE WAS ONLY 10 LEFT IN THE STORE AND I GOT THEM ALL HAHA FUCK THOSE KIDS
>WE'RE HUNTING FOR THE UMBREON ALT ART *shows price value on screen*
>*each card pulled with a sound effect of a cash register*
>*pulls regular ex cards, doesn't react*
>*shows profit/loss at the end of the video instead of reviewing pulls*

>*pronounces half the names wrong*

>>57949158
>*pronounces half the names wrong*
That could be said for many Pokétubers, not just TCG bandwagon grifters.

>>57912355 (OP)
Every time I read "Oh my Arceus!" in a fanfic or comic I get the urge to kill.
I fucking HATE that shit.
Almost no one in-universe even KNOWS that Arceus exists. There is no fucking Arceus centered religion that everyone believes in. NO ONE WOULD FUCKING SAY THAT!
It's just "authors" being shitty ass writers. They want their characters to say "Oh (my) God" but they obviously can't cause it's Pokemon. But instead of getting creative or just avoiding it they think they're so fucking smart by just using "Arceus" instead of "God". Which is the dumbest fucking thing to do. FUCKING USE YOUR BRAIN FOR A GODDAMN SECOND, FUCK YOU!

>>57949070
None of those examples you brought up were actually any good.

>>57912355 (OP)
I dont like those 2 black dots in Milotic design, they look like holes and make me uncomfortable thinking that the snake might be hollow inside.

That you can’t criticise a certain Gen on this board without getting b& or warned

>make terrible pokemon design but you have to use it because it's great in comp

>>57949755
>I dont like those 2 black dots in Milotic design
Those are just its gills from when it was a feebas. I thought milotic was a singing siren pokemon to parallel Gyarados's violent leviathan like those holes were flute holes music would come from them but no milotic learns one sound based move naturally and it's not sing it's fucking disarming voice
>>57949608
>Almost no one in-universe even KNOWS that Arceus exists.
You know in the anime where ash tries to use his Pokedex on a pokemon and the thing goes "no information available" I wish they did that in the games like the paradox mons are the only pokemon without proper dex entries. I wish they did that with Arceus like nobody knows it exists even the closest thing to a church in pokemon isn't dedicated to Arceus they don't know what that is, Rowan has never seen Arceus so why is there a Pokedex entry about it nobody besides the protagonist has met this thing.

>>57919919
>That's the English localisation being fucking retarded, as they often are.
Blame puritanism and the Satanic Panic.

>>57948988
I have but my Pokemon learned it without TM

I wish Pokemon took more inspiration from the original concept art (pic related) a more "dystopian" wild world where these creatures can pose a danger to those that venture out in the wilderness.
Gale of Darkness and Colosseum incorporated some of these aspects.

Nothing against cute pokemon but I really dislike modern designs, so many of them are just made with simple shapes that you can tell were designed in a way that facilitates 3d model making.

I really really miss the 2d games, I played through all the 3ds games at the time they came out, as well as some of the switch ones, however I can confidently say that pokemon games could've benefited heavily from more entries being made in the style of Gen 5, I miss sprites and the construction of a 2d world.

In a way, I just feel sad that the feeling of discovery and mystery that surrounded every new entry is pretty much gone. In part this is also my own nostalgia for the older games, but at the same time it is undeniable that newer games are less serious.

Legends Arceus was pretty good but could've been better.

Also I freaking hate the gimmicks they insist on adding every generation. Megas and Z moves were alright, but gigantamax and the stupid crystal hats are just lazy.

They need to make more spin offs, and get other studios to make them.

Bump

test

I fucking hate Lucario I'm sick of this thing, there's so many more interesting fighting type pokemon

>>57953057
like what

>>57928229
>What's the fucking point of the berries then??
"Berries" are fruit that affect Pokemon, simple. Fruits that do nothing notable are not "berries".

>>57928469
Team Rocket didn't have authorization to hunt Slowpoke for their tails there.

I can look past a lot in the series, but I cannot stand how fucking needlessly slow battles are. All these textboxes just destroy my interest in the games and I know this will never change because it explains all this for the kids, even though they'd have even less of an attention span for all this crap than I do and probably just use their phones while waiting for turns to play out

>>57931308
>gimmick that only a small selection of mons can use so you're forced to add one them to your team if you want to use it
This right here. It's HMs all over again. Your team has to have one of these very specific pokemon (most of which are the boring shillmons)

>>57949358
>>57949158
I hate the TCG because it’s almost impossible to find organized play outside of live and nobody can keep packs because fat balding millennial men and ugly/gross millennial women have to buy out everything and leave nothing for anyone else.

>>57953896
I fell for the Pocket bait and after fucking around on Live it feels like the only tcg I could stick with, there's a decent amount of LGS around me so I was hoping to use it as an excuse to actually go outside and meet people but I couldn't have picked a worse time to do it.

Every side of the tcg sucks ass.
The product itself is mostly mired in novelty stuff that would be rad if I was a kid getting one but stuff like the tins and boxes are ass to keep cards in, and the packaging itself feels so bulky and wasteful.
There's the weird space it has in the public perception prior to the current shitfest of it being difficult to find people who actually played since at most it was a leftover from pokemania where everyone had the cards but nobody actually learned how to play. It's a step too obtuse for kids to get a handle on but too kiddy for most serious TCGers to care for.
And then trying to actually get into the current scene and I'm learning its also been at the recieving end of a big ol smoothening with a bunch of aborted archetypes and one of the most boring metas ever.
To say nothing of the chuds just trying to make a quick buck and not even having the decency to at least donate their bulk to some schools or youth groups or something. It sucks so much ass man

>>57953896
>>57953913
I miss gen 3 tcg, bros :( take me back!

League met in the mall food court every Saturday. Openly liking pokemon was social suicide, but at least those of us who still did stuck together, we were old enough to understand how to play, and schools lifted the ban since it wasn't popular anymore and they were too busy dealing with ipods becoming the hot thing. The meta was good, the cards were affordable and always in stock, and the cards themselves were extra cool because you had lore stuff like delta species and team rocket's return plus the design and artwork was awesome AND some of them had e-reader functionality.

>>57953881
You can beat the game without megas though

>>57953874
It's insane how slow Pokemon games are, even by JRPG standards

>>57912355 (OP)
Not lewd enough

>>57953913
>>57954012
I miss the ex era (2003-2007) so much. There weren’t 5 variations of one card where one was a few nickels and the other was $300+. After gardevoir/gallade won worlds, they made it a mission of spite to dumb the game down drastically because it upset them that players were able to win using older cards. When that caused players to leave, they opted to appeal to gambling addicts with alternate art variants. I would love for them to give the game back to Nintendo.

I remember when they’d have tables available for play at toys r us on Saturday mornings before the local game store would open. The game was never difficult to learn and play, but I always appreciated that you didn’t need to have some powerful 2 prize Pokemon to play.

You didn’t have hypebeasts and neckbeards like you do now, either. Those people dropped it when it stopped being popular, but will now argue about how gen 1 was so much better despite never playing the game or getting to experience the fun that the ex era brought. These people don’t give a shit about any of that, it’s all just millenials reaching a midlife crisis, NFT and crypto investors pretending to care and women with GOTIS all more focused on trying to show off their expensive cards. I wish they’d get rid of all of these chase cards and prioritize playing the game again. I feel like all of these tourists and investors would go back to pushing NFTs or trying to sell labubu dolls.

Something else that irks me are the retards that feel the need to grade everything and justify it as if it’s not just some scam. Retards grading everything on top of scam.

>>57954198
>when they’d have tables available for play at toys r us on Saturday mornings
Fuck, I forgot all about that! There used to be free activity days there all the time too, like once a month or so. Sometimes it was a pre-release event for a new tcg set where you'd get a free promo card if you came and played for a bit. Sometimes it'd be crafts like making a pikachu mask. Sometimes it was promotional events for toys and you'd get a random set of pokemon mighty beans or lego. Somewhere I probably have like 8 of those Pokemon Fan pamphlets from around the 10th anniversary.

What happened to irl events? Sure now there's go community days and raid days and such, but they're not standardized events designed to be fun for everyone. Your milage will vary depending on what's around you (is your local park a shitty block of grass with a bench and a swing set? your downtown a dangerous place to be walking around? FUCK YOU!) and what the people organizing your group are like (do they set up a potluck and keep spreadsheets for who's carpooling? Or do they change the meeting point 10 minutes before the event starts and only message their closest buddies on facebook about it?). Rather than being designed to let you have fun and encourage you to buy stuff while you're there it's designed to kinda suck unless you spend money and even then you're not guaranteed that shiny or legendary or whatever. Don't get me wrong, events in main series games being online is a lot better than people getting cucked out of mythicals because they don't live in a major city or their parents won't take them. But I miss hanging out at gamestop for distributions and battling with other people who came in for it.

>>57954114
Truth nuke

>>57954284
The internet

>>57912355 (OP)
The last good pkmn game was in 2012. They had so much potential, all squandered...

>>57953806
If we're talking pokemon with gimmicks like Lucario there's passimian, the timburr line, medicham, hitmontop, mienshao

>>57912355 (OP)
I absolutely fucking HATE trade evolutions

>>57954284
Negroes
Beaners
and investor fags happened

>>57954284
The problem was that parents stopped wanting to take their kids to these things because it became a hassle to them and then those kids grew up. You can see tons of those promo marill and mew cards circulating and people seem to forget where those came from. I remember going to toys r us when they had the man’s put event and thinking it was a bit of a letdown compared to the events they had for gen 3 as well as Pokemon league for the TCG.
>>57954763
>zood check out this bubble mew aha!
>ay bro this charizard SIR is FLAMES my guy
>*pulls chase card* les go
add zoomers to that as well.

>>57954284 #
The problem was that parents stopped wanting to take their kids to these things because it became a hassle to them and then those kids grew up. You can see tons of those promo marill and mew cards circulating and people seem to forget where those came from. I remember going to toys r us when they had the manaphy event and thinking it was a bit of a letdown compared to the events they had for gen 3 as well as Pokemon league for the TCG.
>>57954763 #
>zood check out this bubble mew aha!
>ay bro this charizard SIR is FLAMES my guy
>*pulls chase card* les go
add zoomers to that as well.