fucking christ these games are so fucking slow.

and i don't mean performance. just entering battles, initiating conversations, using a move, EVERYTHING TAKES FOREVER.

going from fastforwarding on earlier gens on an emulator to this is major whiplash. i enjoy the openworld but man is it held back by the slowness.

it is genuinely way faster than most games in the series (except battles because of retarded shit like showing every stat change/multi-hit animation), you're just only now aware of it after abusing fast forward
pokemon is a very unoptimized series

Team Star Boss fights were the worst example of this

>zoomer needs zoomer mode and 3 instances of subway surfers / family guy / minecraft parkour in the corner to pay attention to a game

Did you play Gen8 with animations on?
I finished it right before playing SV just this year and I remember thinking how much faster everything is.
I wish you could turn animations off, but tera raids(which suck) are on a timer so they won't let you.

>>57920037
>it is genuinely way faster than most games in the series
nah, no way. not faster than the first 3 gens.
my only recent exposure to gen 4 were romhacks which may have improved performance, so i can't fairly compare them, but the romhacks are way faster as well.

>>57920044
didn't play any gens after 5. SV is my first time playing a new gen since like 2013.

>>57920057
try PLA, it's how pokemon games should run

>>57920068
downloaded it already. i haven't beat SV yet but i'll try PLA when i do

>>57920084
YES FUCKING YES i knew that had to be a fucking meme because i sat through that a couple times and i'm ready to smash my fucking controller.

>>57920030 (OP)
If you're used to superspeed, everything feels slow. That's not the game's fault, it's your fault for cheating in earlier gens.

>>57920084

>>57920193
all this shit in a textbox that obviously can fit all those notifications into one (The wild whatever's Attack, Sp. Attack, and Speed rose and its Defense and Sp. Def lowered!)

Someone post the BDSP one with Steelix

>>57920200
It's made for 7 year olds.
It's split onto several sentences to allow them to understand them.
Rather than throwing a whole paragraph of text at them.
When it's been demonstrably proven anyone under the age of 25.
Does not have the attention span to pay attention.
To such an info dump.

>>57920349
>The wild Klawf's stats fell!

>>57920193
is this slowed down

>>57920366
No, the game runs that shitty on Switch 1

>>57920366
unironically no

>>57920030 (OP)
>>57920084
>>57920193
I brought this up in another thread already, but the fact that PLA doesn't do this proves that this is a deliberate design choice.
PLA was made with slightly older audiences in mind. Mainline Pokémon games however are made to be played by literal little kids who can barely read. That's why every single step is slowly spelled out. It's so little Timmy won't start crying cause he doesn't understand what's happening and plays his mobile game instead. It's GF wanting the games to be retard-proof.

>ignoring reality to whine Pokémon isn't made for faggot 20-somethings online
I don't care if you're retarded enough to not get it, but not enough to get your disability allowance. It's presented as such to allow kids to grasp the consept. Fuck off and play an age-appropriate JRPG, if you want to be the focus and chief concern of the developers, because Game Freak never gave a wank for making Pokémon for adults.

>>57920204

>>57920375
It really wasn't, the whole battle engine was simplified and stat drops/rises were tied together as a result (didn't need the whole complex suite when there's no PvP and no need to inform kids of needing to be aware of all 6 stats), because it was ultimately not critical to the story (so expect another streamlined battle system in L: Z-A).
SV though had VGC and VGC has a juniors division. Meaning they need to inform the juniors about things, so they get a chance to understand the complexities in VGC.

when I was a kid I used to think stats got lowered permanently, they should have added a second text prompt saying it is only temporary for this battle every time so kid me can really understand how the game works

>>57920409
Honestly the game explains surprisingly little for how handholdy everything is.

there should be at least 3 prompts per battle telling me i'm doing a good job and everything will be okay

It took them like 8-9 (I forget) generations before they realized they should group multiple level ups in one text box instead of showing the stat growth for every individual level, let's be real

>>57920423
Exactly this. Mainline Pokémon explains its mechanics terribly. We don't need the games telling everything that's going on slowly and one stat at a time during every battle or the endgame and postgame bosses cutting in to talk about type matchups for little Timmy. Little Timmy needs a proper tutorial with simple text and demonstrative battles, also make it optional so Johnny and Spike don't have to be dragged along and can just get on with the game.
As brought up in another thread, having a library to look up moves, items, stats, etc. in the game without resorting to a guidebook should be a staple feature in the Pokédex or somewhere the player can easily access.
SV's setting seems to revolve around a school. What exactly do they teach there and how?

>WHOA HOLY MOLY WAS THAT A SUPER-EFFECTIVE MOVE?! YOU SURE KNOW YOUR POKÉMON, <player>!

>>57920030 (OP)
>He doesn't own a Switch 2

>>57920193
this made me fucking mad when this happened to me there's no fucking reason other than sheer incompetence that they left that as it is

>>57921878
It's not incompetence because PLA doesn't do this
It's on purpose

>>57921810
What happened? The mid-battle dialog in the DS games weren't this obnoxious.

>>57920030 (OP)
Wait til you try to play a gen 4 game not on emulator lmao

How anybody ever thought that gen was acceptable is a mystery to me. Absolute dumpster fire.

>>57922763
Yes it was, they were just your first games so you accepted it.

>>57922782
>they were just your first games
They weren't and I hate Gen 4's slow performance.

>Can't toggle Set Mode
>Can't toggle Battle Animations
>Slow text Prompts for "It's Super Effective", "Critical Hit!", etc
It's really bad.

>>57922763
>What happened? The mid-battle dialog in the DS games weren't this obnoxious.
Because it wasn't a "cutscene" in those games. On the DS, the trainer sprite briefly scrolls into frame and then out of frame. In the 3D games, it's a whole animated cutaway thing.

This isn't a gameboy game anymore, these textboxes are fucking killing me.
I will not use multi-hit moves
I will not use leftovers
I will not use strategy of buffing
I will just spam whatever gets me out of the battle fastest because it is legitimately mindnumbing
>>57920375
>That's why every single step is slowly spelled out. It's so little Timmy won't start crying cause he doesn't understand what's happening and plays his mobile game instead
I barely ever touch my smartphone but goddamn this is the only series that's tempted me so. And do you really think little Timmy thinks these slow-ass battles are fun when he's used to sensory overloads? Maybe the textboxes won't confuse him, but he's still gonna go play Roblox instead because this shit is BORING