Thread 58006406

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Previous: >>57998031

First for former king

>>58006434
Stagnate in curdled piss

>>58006434
Nothing better than players throwing the game away because they want to see their Celebi flip 20 coins to global your Farfetch'd

>TURN1 MARS
>TURN1 RED CARD
>TURN1 MARS
>TURN1 RED CARD
>TURN1 MARS
>TURN1 RED CARD
>TURN1 MARS
>TURN1 RED CARD
>TURN1 MARS
>TURN1 RED CARD

>>58006459
play a basic-only deck then
koko oricorio doesn't give a rats ass about red card slop

FUCK THIS EVENT FUCKING FUCK

>>58006533
same thing happened to me

>Gladion can still be used when there are no more T:N/Silvally in the deck, but you have one of them in the hand
>cannot be used once there are none in both your hand or deck, or if the deck is empty
I'm guessing Team Plasma Grunts operate the same way

>>58006543
>>cannot be used once there are none in both your hand or deck, or if the deck is empty
It makes sense. If your opponent knows you can't possibly pull one, why let you use it?

>>58006543
it's just barely possible to make team galactic grunt fail, but it's never going to realistically happen. you'd have to have two of them dead and the other four on the field.
running less than six targets doesn't work because even if all the targets in your deck are in play, you can still use it because your deck isn't public knowledge.

>have leafeon out
>4 energy on it
>opponent's guzzlord dead to rights next turn, only 3 energy on it so he has to grindcore
>even if he flips 3 heads i can still swing for game because of leafeon's ability
>even if he pulls the other steela i have cyrus in hand
>he flips 4 heads
this game is so fucking cringe

>get a cool animated ex card
>its not that good in actual play
dang it

i would just like to take a moment to thank eevee grove for enabling new fire decks and curbstomping buzzwole out of relevancy
what an absolute asspain that shit was to play against

Guess who still hasn't gotten a single sylveon ex after opening over 60 packs... yeah that's right, me...

>>58006749
Eevee EX wonderpicks coming anon, there's still hope

if I were to buy the gold pass right now, would I be able to complete the missions of the next pass as long as the same subscription is still active?

>new display board is a nine-card frame
Oh now this is nice.

LF:
>Arcanine EX
>Lickyliky EX
>Leafeon EX
>Charizard EX (SR)
>Clodsire
>Wishiwashi EX
>Alola Raichu EX
>Alolan Dugtrio

FT:
>Starmie (x2)
>Celebi
>Gyarados
>Mew
>Weavile
>Dialga
>Wugtrio
>Solgaleo
>Buzzswole

Code: 3231755709478723

Wondering if it's a good idea to break down cards now for trade points to later put into dust when the trade system changes. Or just hang onto duplicate cards. I suppose it depends how expensive the trades will be using dust. What do you guys think?

LF:
GA: Gengar
Weezing
Ditto

STS: Torterra
Darkrai

TL: Carnivine
Crobat
Magnezone

CG: Tsareena
Talonflame
Alolan Persian

I can offer what's in the pic.

3824117926640887

>>58006760
Now I don't need to buy that one expensive black frame in the shop

Do I send thanks to every battle and wonder trade?

>>58006768
Since the you can trade the tokens to dust at a 1:10 rate, it shouldn't matter if you trade now. That is, as long as the trades will cost 5000 dust for an ex card etc. later. They'd be met with harsh criticism if they raised the cost for trading, but it's dena so what do you know...

man am i glad i've been going hard on getting the sets i missed completed
a new player starting now has absolutely zero chance of being able to catch up on the card dex without massive whaling since you'll be getting dick fuck all shinedust from pulling packs for collection's sake

Looking for 2 diamond fire Oricorio

Let me know what you want in return

6569-1552-7999-8433

>>58006768
good question
i assume we won't be able to dust cards for shinedust after the update since we get shinedust for pulling them, so maybe it's worth dusting them now
then again it's really not a lot of shinedust, even dusting an immersive is only 3000 shinedust which isn't that much and if you're whaling enough to be able to dust anything rarer you don't need the shinedust anyway

>after days of nothing showing up in WP I blow 3 on a random FA WP and rainbow Dragonite ex immediately shows up with 30 minutes to expiry
Yeah fuck you game
Already got 2 Dragonite ex and I couldn't even stand playing it more than 1 battle anyway

>>58006791
I have very few FA trainers and the only 4 stamina WP I've seen was more than a month ago (it was a Surge, which I already have). Just now, another one appeared and yet again, it's a trainer I already have (Acerola)

Still debating with myself if I should go for it.

The 2 Pokemon I've spent an uncomfortable amount of time trying to make work in this game

>>58006780
Man, I've played this game when it started and just realised I don't even know how to change the backdrop. But I just found out that you get promo cards you can buy with tranny tickets for free when you do the 'Guide' missions. Damn, I've wasted a few tickets.

is regigigas good? more damage for more damage received seems good

Feels like an event they just threw together to keep people playing till the next big set is announced a week from now, this is the most generous event they've done and it's still really not that much when you think about it

>>58006795
I decided not to go for it. I've been very unlucky with wonderpicks and don't feel like wasting 4 stamina for the worst of all female trainer cards you can get.

Just look at this thing. The hair, the face, the pose - everything about her is terrible.

Trade changes are around the corner, your current dust will double once you get a dupe if I read things correctly. Did you manage to complete diamond sets despite everything or where you waiting for this? Still no news about the ticket.

>>58006864
>Did you manage to complete diamond sets despite everything or where you waiting for this?

Wonder if that makes a difference. If the converted cost would be 1:10 then it changes nothing. If the cost is lower than that, let's say 1:8 or even 1:5, then it's a total waste of resources. Knowing DeNA, they will screw the trading cost even higher.

>>58006836
you don't deserve her, faggot

>>58006869
the real difference anon is that you do not need to convert cards into token anymore so you can "trade" more cards away for more copies all around. This is good for the F2P but otherwise worthless to the whales.

They still won't let 2 Star Rares be traded.

I'm honestly getting bored of this damn game. Can't even complete a full set. No single player campaign. No alt rules sets for online battles.

The stupid horse racing gotcha everyone lost their minds over is turning out to be more fun now.

>>58006906
Even if they were allowed you'd still need a large number of those to complete full sets for real instead of just filling the album that is shown when you get new cards. Them being tradeable would be for the best even for whales at that point but I think that's the stuff they are not willing to compromise, people would pull less if they knew all they need is spare copies of some 2*s to get full sets (which was the element distorded by the original implementation of God Picks)

>forgot you cant retreat twice in the same turn unless you're abusing abilities like celesteela or solgaleo
dragonite ex is worse than i thought

>>58006921
You need to play him with lot of healing cards to survive 2 turns

>>58006921
This is why people was suggesting to use fossils because retiring them is a free action and puts nite back online. Unless you can afford a Solgaleo for "free" turn retreats.

>>58006906
>They still won't let 2 Star Rares be traded.
Why would they? They know waifu cards are the chase cards. If they let people trade their shitty Sophocles for a Lillie, people won't keep ripping packs and being disappointed.

>>58006406 (OP)
why does it feel like the immersive cards are literally the most common secret EXs

>>58007010
Aren't you more likely to get one than any specific 2-star?

>>58007011
Yes, the immersive Giratinas and Lillies are seen much more often than the 2star ones

why did they add the Rare Candy

>>58006791
>now the Planeta 2* Dragonite ex shows up
Prettier than the rainbow one, but no thanks

>>58007031
To make the game more diverse than "spam basic EXs to win".

>Tfw wasted all of my luck on 2 shiny Ralts and a shiny Kirlia while Gardevoir and Gallade see close to zero usage
T-they'll introduce their Megas soon, right?

>GiratinaNIGGER gives pity concede

Holy shit actually kill yourself, what cumfarting retards this card makes people

Ban Pokéball, Oaks Research and Sylutveon

>tfw this shit shows up instead of something useful
I almost want to pay 40hgs for the chance, but I already have 3 copies.

>>58007135
It's incredible how hard Weavile got power crept.

>>58007139
It was only relevant at all because Darkrai is a fagenabler

>>58007145
Yeah, but 90 damage is modest these days.

Which one are you guys missing?

>>58007165
eevee and flareon
im a bit annoyed 2* eevee doesn't count for the FA mission since I got two of them

>>58007165
As a F2P that mostly pivoted away from Eevee Grove after managing to pull all standard card in the set, I still don't have Flareon, Glaceon and Umbreon

Um, heheh, myeah, leave SolGAYleo to me

>make new deck
>doing pretty well last night
>wake up and do some more battles
>get absolutely fucking assblasted by shitty RNG
man i really hate this game sometimes
it's so fucking artificial

Why do they have to keep the results there? What's the fucking point? Making my suffering even worse?

>>58007139
it's crazy yeah
you can run toucannon for the same 70 damage/1 energy/140 hp as a 1-prize card
and its damage is nonconditional
but no one even runs toucannon because it's bad by modern standards lmao

>>58007260
>Calling anyone gay while running Incelroar and Charilard
Pot, meet kettle.

>>58007311
Toucannon needs a Rare Candy. I was thinking more of Silvally. It needs 2 energy, but you need to set up energy on Darkrai for the 70 damage right away.

>>58007317
toucannon needs rare candy, but weavile needs darkrai to function and ALSO needs dawn if you want to swing turn 3 going first. it's actually more demanding card-wise than toucannon, which is funny.

>>58007316
Shit covered faggot-lion paws typed this post, cry more retard

wew

>>58007365
Congrats on your Looker-tier card!

>>58007165
Jolteon
Need Jolteon

>>58007165
Flareon eevee and sylveon.. doubled up on a bunch of others
>>58007368
>tfw no Looker
Only had 1 2star from eevee grove so I'm happy

rate my board

>>58007165
Sylveon.
And maybe a Leafeon in my language. The one I caught is foreign...

>>58007393
Should have said "Look at my board."

>>58006695
just win more coinflips

>>58006791
I'm 100% convinced it's on purpose
The last time I saw any 2* in there at all was when I was out of WP hourglasses

>>58007398
fuck

was this the moment pocket jumped the shark?
there's literally no going back from this, the game is irreversibly fucked.

>playing Solgaleo now that I have two Sylveon
>ranked GB3 match vs Darktina
>I'm pretty bricked, second Solgaleo was buried in the deck and I'm not using psychic energy so Sylveon can't attack
>Darktina guy is using mixed energy (retard)
>doesn't get Darkness for 12 turns and can't attack with first Giratina after he attacks Sylveon and is left with 10Hp by Solgaleo
>doesn't know how his deck is supposed to work because he keeps putting psychic energy on Darkrai
>it's pretty clear I'm going to win after about 14 turns, my bench is clogged but I've drawn my whole deck and just need my Sylveon killed to get a healthy Solgaleo on the board so that I can't get one shot
>retard keeps stalling for 10 more turns until getting another Darkness energy
>apparently forgets he doesn't want to kill Sylveon and attaches to Darkrai
>I Mars his 12 card hand and defend the next turn to evolve
>retard starts rope burning and trying to stall out the timer after he red cards my two card hand into my empty deck
>ragequits like a nigger on his final turn instead of just hitting concede like he should have done 10 minutes ago
Kek but I fucking hate how long the timer is. I don't even care if people ragequit early in a game, but don't fucking waste my time and play out 15 pointless turns AND THEN ragequit. I'm fucking white, I'm not going to quit the battle because you did and let you win.
They really need to take the timer from 90 seconds to like 30 between turns

>>58007368
Dumbass, Penny is basically a third copy of Prof Research or Cyrus.

>>58007165
No Eevee, Vape or Espeon for me. I think I got normal Espeon and Eevee at least.

>trading update around the corner
>suddenly Dena runs an event where you can earn copious amounts of trade tokens that will be useless by the end of the month
Bravo, very nice!

>>58007581
are you retarded?

>>58007554
>there's literally no going back from this, the game is irreversibly fucked.

>>58007599
a card like this won't do shit. it'll fit only in one type of deck, rely on you drawing it before they use sylveon so good luck if you're going second, and it's still on you to play that deck instead of the dozens of others that still can't do anything to stop sylveon.

I get so many free wins and insta concedes with Zeraora Giovanni turn 2

>>58007638
this but rampardos turn 3

>>58007640
I can still deal with Rampardos after recoil if I pull Silvally quick enough

>>58007638
>>58007640
>>58007656
>t. Sucks cock for a living

>>58007586
Are you? Fucking faggot, if you have a point to make maybe say it instead of acting like a braindead woman.

>>58006776
How about GA Weezing for a Comfey? I'm adding you, I'm 7634269574928429

>>58007788
It's so everyone can have tokens to trade in for hourglasses so no one misses out on those ones just for making use of the trade feature for all this time, you fucking moron

>current trading
>make new account
>1000 tokens in the mail
>basically reroll and trade whatever on a 2nd account then make a new one
How easy will alt trading work after they change to shinedust?
Will they give 10k in the mail or are we fucked unless we farm the shinedust

>>58007828
Wow 60 whole hourglasses??? If you actually spent all fucking 20k tokens they've given out with so few tradeable cards, that's on you.
If they wanted to give people hourglasses, they should just make that the reward instead of a bunch of literal shitcoins that will just end up as stardust (if you don't have a maxed out counter, what the FUCK have you been doing?). literally everyone has been hoarding since they announced the change 6 months ago.

>>58007788
Read the news article in the app you fucking retard hahaha american detected

Need me a PokePoke gf who lets me eat her ass while she grinds ranked

>>58007165
Fortunately I'm not missing any, and in fact have all too many Flareons.

7084-8040-3595-6508

>>58008042
machamp for greninja?
8254-4014.6583-0103

>>58008197
sent friend request

Bruh, I'm so ashamed that this happened. I was losing but won 4 coinflips

>>58008215
sent trade request

>>58008042
Tyranitar for Charizard
Sent a friend request. Slowpoke icon.

Dead thread
Dead game

>>58008260
sent trade request

7084-8040-3595-6508

I only got enough tokens for one 4-diamond trade, so I might as well get the last card I'm missing for Shining Revelry

just wasted 26 wp hourglasses on a pack with 2 1 one star whom I both needed. Of course I picked a fucking filler card. I hate this game so much

The new set will surely give us some fighting energy ramp...

>>58008356
yes but it will be all the newest shitmons no one fucking likes. you will use the new slopmons and you will like it. otherwise you will be in D tier with all the other powercrept meme decks

>>58008262
What is there to talk about?

>>58008356
Nothing can save Lycanroc anon, it's over

>>58008562
I want to save Tyranitar...

I want all the 2* alola starters now

So im assuming he’s completely unviable huh

pokeball shouldn't be able to work on EX pokemon
wow look I just fixed the game

>>58008687
3 of the top 5 most used archetypes right now don't use any Ex basics, so I'm not sure what the fuck you're talking about.

Oricorio should prevent EX pokemon from retreating and should prevent status effects caused by ex pokemon including poison barb and should prevent supporters from being activated if the opposing active pokemon is ex
wow look I just fixed the game

>>58008651
dragon support... *coughs up blood* any day now...

>>58008720
just wait for the unova set to come out!

>>58008720
ENTER paldean dragon trainer

>>58008728
dragons are cooked

Of all the shitty pack filler this set I gotta say, it's been real satisfying to run down & actually trap in Giratina's faggot ass with the 1-2 punch of Galvantula+Dawn

>>58008827
post deck I really wanna use him

>>58008728
Anon... that's a Fire type trainer from Unova...

>>58008843
Of course swapping out the rats for a funny yellow bird & 2nd Ball make it less retarded.

Either way, still kinda shitty if you don't open with either Zera/Cord but so far it's pretty fun

>>58008870
ive been running it with electevire but this is probably better

Eevee-ex rate is a lie. Never on Wonder Pick. Only just now pulled one after all this.

(Have 2 of those Zapdos btw)

>>58008953
Hau can stay missing though.

>>58006787
Got one, already have you added so I will send the trade request in a bit (Snorlax PFP), just send whatever you have a spare of.

>>58008870
How crucial has comm been for you? I've been using xspeed in that slot so I can get zeraora out and preserve the free energy

>>58008999
pokemon communication is always critically important, trainer

>>58008720
What does being they have against dragon type Pokemon? are they also bad in the normal tcg? Like gos forbid we spice up the meta and dragon cards become strong.

Haha... fucking kill me

>>58008999
It's on every one of my decks hands down for a reason, sometimes your draws are so shit you will get EVERYTHING but what you need & Comms in that moment is the ultimate clutchout.

Or if there's only one Basic that hasn't been played yet you can Comms it out & Ball it back on a profit of evo pieces.

I tried X-Speed as well but more often than not I'd just have enough Energy upon needing to dip out, I'm not gonna tell you how to play though.

Why do you people complain about RNG in a card game? You should know what your getting into

Fuck yo shit

>>58009058
skill issue

>>58009053
2-color decks are way more common in the real game, and dragons have their own support so it's not so detrimental to run one.

how about

>Lance
>Choose one: Draw a Dragon-type card, or change the energy you generate next turn to a different type

>>58009196
this will be abused in non dragon decks
just fyi

>>58009246
Eh I don't think there are any other decks that'd wanna run a random different energy Pokemon and rely on 2 unsearchable cards just to make it usable

inspired by the success of flareon/leafeon, i've been experimenting with leafeon splashing and after a few half-baked decks that didn't get anywhere i happened to find a combo that works pretty damn well. rampardos/sylveon normally isn't a great combo because it's entirely reliant on getting rampardos out quick or you automatically lose, but adding leafeon into it solves a lot of problems without really creating any. since it runs on eevees like sylveon does, it's a consistent secondary attacker that doesn't come with the cost of cucking the sylveon draw engine by starting you with the wrong basic. it also essentially retreats for free so if you get a turn 3 rampardos you can actually swing with it which is always hilarious.
still fiddling with it so the deck list isn't perfect but try it out if you've got the cards, it's pretty fun.

>>58009254
famous last words

>>58009246
like how
druddigon? I could see some vaguely toxic stuff happening there but how bad could it really be? the Snorlax/GA Zard deck sucks despite Snorlax being fat as fuck

>>58009254
oh uh
I meant "change the energy you generate next turn to a different type among those included in your existing energy pool". I doubt they'd be willing to create an energy selection UI with all the colours just for that

like if it somehow takes off and we end up with a delcatty/porygon-z build showing up to counter it I'd be pretty happy with that desu. there should be more viable multicolour decks

GA dragonite was fun while it lasted

>>58009255
>more eevee slop now with ramp slop

>>58009117
BASED PIG mogging the poorfags

I have more stamina now game, why don't you show me all the 2* WP that you showed me yesterday

>>58009340
no you only get shown good cards when you have no stamina

All these FA and no Lusamine

>>58009752
It's like the opposite for me, and the Swole was a WP

Am I the only one that thinks 2* FAs should be turned into 1*? 2* RR almost always look better in comparison

>>58008968
Thank you! Sorry for the late reply, I was sleeping.

>>58009875
2* are EX cards (unless trainer), 1* are non-EX cards
FA EXes being 1* would throw the currency systems out of whack

They should make a new regular Aerodactyl with a generic 2 colorless energy 70 damage attack
nothing specific in mind haha

>>58007554
It's slow and awkward to fit in non-psy decks, and it forces you to fill your deck with garbage. it's good right now but it will fall off the top within the next 2 expansions but see resurgence whenever competitive new psy mons or eeveelutions are released. Screenshot this post

>>58010107
>drawing cards is actually bad

>>58007554
Whoops sorry wrong pic

This game is such nigger shit. I saw more deck variety in fucking Master Duel. EoS this garbage.

>>58010240
not an argument, nigger

>>58010107
This, the only ones that can benefit from Sylveon are psy pokémon such as Solgaleo, Charizard, Incineroar or literally any stage 2 ever that doesn't need bench space

>>58010238
there's no deck variety because the matchmaking is broken and will put you up against the same deck dozens of times in a row because it counters yours. switch decks and you'll never see that deck again, instead getting a new counter you see 8/10 games.

I'm so fucking retarded, I thought Araquanid needed to be in the active slot for Lana to work
Shame water decks are weak atm

>Somehow manage to outpace the opponent's Solgaleo and kill the damn thing for once
>Opponent could easily win the game anyway with some positioning
>They scoop instead
I guess Solgaleo players aren't used to using more than 10% of their brain power

>>58010315
why is it putting those decks against me to give them a free win instead of putting them against decks that counter them like it does for me?

i've been opening shining revelry packs for the past month and the results have been terrible to say the least, literally every pack is full of base cards and all i got in more than 50 packs was one shiny which i couldn't care less about, i mean eventually i'll get enough pack points to get the card i want but this has been embarrassing, i am starting to think the game doesn't want players to open old packs

>>58010410
The real issue is that DeNA doesn't want you to have anything. That's why they killed godpacks in STS, and then further killed them by introducing Shinies, and then they even ruined that by making all the Shinies be reprints of cards no one ever used when they were current anyway.

You're not supposed to play this game. You're not supposed to collect cards in this game. You're supposed to give DeNA money for the privelege of rolling the gacha by opening packs. It's not designed to do anything else besides this.

>The game fucking HATES UB decks now
>Guzz cheese is carried by Darkrai

So the next set will stifle Eeveeshitters, r-right?

>>58010590
how do you even stifle eevee players? I think the only way would be to introduce a card that forces your opponent to switch in a ex card to the active slot

>>58010619
Anti-ability cards.

>>58010641
You know it would be some bullshit like aerodactyl ex where it only works on active mons

>>58010641
because that worked for oricorio, right? no one plays ex cards anymore because oricorio hard walls them.

>>58010644
Probably, but an ability blocker would fix about 90% of this game's cancer.

Brionne is ugly

>>58010649
So many people are just lazily slapping on 9 eevees on this display board

>>58010668
What do you expect? It's a set of 9 Pokemon and you can get all of them in this set.

looking for 8 1 star wigglytuffs

>>58010765
To surround a 2-star Looker with them?

>>58010781
if you're not surrounding your 2-star looker with hand scopes you're just doing it wrong

>>58010590
Yeah that's how live service games work, and you'll have to bear people getting hyped at devs "fixing" the format by replacing cancer with another type of cancer, but hey don't get mad it's a step in the right direction!

>>58010619
This but with trainer cards in general, you drew 15 cards in 2 turns? Get hit 200 damage

>play Penny on turn 1
>it uses Mars
TOP KEK

>>58010657
Its whole line is a fucking abomination.

i like playing a water deck specifically to counter niggeroar and tardizard decks

>>58010905
>things that don't happen

>>58010905
this but i use oricorio because i like actually beating stokezard instead of coping when i do 40 damage to charmander turn 2 and then he rare candies and stokes and lillies off the damage

>>58010903
>Primarina is bad
Die genwunner

>>58011021
Nta, but Primarina is a joke
But at least she's not Incineroar, who is literally just someone's fursona

>we finally get a dragonite ex
>the best lists for it are mid-tier jokes
fuck you

>>58011238
It will be good when dragon support happens.

>>58011242
true, i just need to trust the plan

Iris will save dragons!

>>58011021
She's the second worst-looking starter final stage in all of pogeyman history, right after homo duck.

The fuck is TRG making comeback for

>>58011348
>She's the second worst-looking starter final stage in all of pogeyman history, right after homo duck.
The homo duck is really bad, but so is the Samurai Otter, the Flaming Pig, the Bongo Ape, the Green Armadillo, and the Tree Turtle.

>>58011348
>emboar
>chesnaught
>baracat
>inceleon
>better than primarina
gaynigger detected.

>>58011365
>Tree Turtle bad
no

>>58011365
The 3D models are washed out and soulless but I'll give them credit for posing them like their official artwork in their mini sprites at least

>>58011369
Regardless, Primarina is at least as good as all of the ones I mentioned.

>>58010590
I suspected UB would be quickly phased out when they had such a good rare pick event

>>58011380
The Eevees are about to have a very good rare pick event as well.

>>58011366
Emboar is not great, but it's only offensive because it's ch*nese. Primarina is offensive purely in the aesthetic sense.
Chesnaught is pretty cool.
Cat is fine. You wouldn't get it because you are too young to know Tiger Mask.
Inceleon is 3rd worst.

>>58011365
Samurai otter is about on the same level as featureless grass snake. Bland as fuck, but that's about it.
The ape itself is just an animal. Uninspired, but it would need to be much worse to match Primarina. Although the drums edge it a bit closer to it.
Torterra is the most fucking awesome grass starter ever, shut your whore mouth.

>>58011389
You guys are delusional. I even think Primarina is better than all of the ones I named. She's really not even that bad.

>>58011348
Look at this nigger lol

doragonchads

>>58011409
>>58011412
So this is what happens when you incel so hard that you start to want to fuck female animals, huh?

>>58011443
You're the one who sounds like you want to fuck them, anon.

>>58011430
Source? Is not in Twitter

>>58011445
Nice projecting. Then why don't you tell me what do you love about Primarina's design so much?
Protip: You won't.

>>58011430
Unovachads... we're going to save dragons!

>>58011482
She looks good

>>58011430
Does this card even do anything in the current meta? Its just another big basic that sits there and hoards up energy to nuke things, which have pretty much all been phased out now.

>>58011482
>Nice projecting.
No projecting, lil bro. You just jumped immediately to wanting to fuck Pokemon as being the only reason any opinion could be possible, so obviously you are speaking from your own experience.

>Then why don't you tell me what do you love about Primarina's design so much?
I think you're getting way too upset about something that I didn't even say. Someone said that Primarina is the worst final stage starter evolution, second only to the homo duck. I do agree that the homo duck is among the worst, but I believe that many other final stage evolutions are also pretty bad, like the ones that I named. At think all of the Pokemon that I named are at least as good/bad as Primarina, with Primarina not really being that bad. I can see you disliking her, but all of the Pokemon I mentioned are also bad. I never said anything about liking Primarina.

How about this:
Why don't (You) tell me why you want to fuck the Samurai Otter, the Flaming Pig, the Bongo Ape, the Green Armadillo, and the Tree Turtle. That's the only reason you could think any of these Pokemon aren't terribly designed.

>>58011430
Too slow

>>58011504
looks pretty shit, yeah. in theory you can do 180 for 4 energy, but dragonite already does 180 for 3 and doesn't discard 3 fucking energy for the privilege.
you basically HAVE to play it with dialga, except dialga has proven to be unplayably slow for what it does.

>>58011511
Not really, Dialga just got a new butt-buddy

>>58011513
You can also play it with Manaphy but it doesn't change anything, either way its an automatic loss to any funny bird player, just like all the other old big basic ex decks that aren't played anymore.

>>58011519
playing it with manaphy would be retarded, the attack requires a steel energy so you'd have to run a dual-color deck to use manaphy and then if your first energy is steel instead of the water manaphy needs you're just fucked.

Nah it's fake a trailer I got got kek

>>58011540
Post the whole thing then.

>>58011510
>Protip: You won't.
Called it.

>ames designs that I called bland, uninspired or offensive as something I like
Really grasping at straws here.

Chesnaught and Torterra are purely in the "cool" category of design. They look strong and/or imposing. Maybe not quite as much as Blue Eyes White Dragon, Machinedramon or Gaogaigar, but it's the same general design direction. Every manchild can confirm. It has nothing to do with fucking, just pure awesome.

>>58011553
>>Protip: You won't.
>Called it.
I didn't say that I loved Primarina's design, anon. I said it's not the 2nd worst. I can't defend arguments that I never made.

>>58011564
>he's now pretending to be me
Bruh.
All my posts:
>>58010903
>>58011348
>>58011389
>>58011443
>>58011482
>>58011553

>>58011583
Holy fucking schizo. I'm not pretending to be anyone.

>>58011589
Sorry, misread. Please disregard that post.
So I understand that you were saying that it's NOT 2nd worst. Do you then think that all the ones listed in one or both of these
>>58011366
>>58011365
are worse? I wanna know what I'm exactly arguing here, let's talk specifics.

>>58011598
Schizo, I don't really give a fuck anymore. This post was me: >>58011365
I don't care anymore though. You are a schizo.

both of you kindly shut the fuck up and/or kill yourselves please
literally no one cares
go make a genwar thread if you want to argue over starters for the 300,000,000th time

>>58011605
Thanks. We can't really get anywhere if we don't talk. I just missed the "not" in >>58011564 and thought you were trolling for a moment.
I can at least understand why you think most of those are bad. Even Chesnaught, which I like, but I can kinda understand why someone else may not like it. The only one I don't get is Torterra. Could you explain what you don't like about it?

>>58011633
>The only one I don't get is Torterra. Could you explain what you don't like about it?
I just don't like it. I think it's weird he has a whole ass tree on his back. It's kinda like they tried to do a second Venusaur but didn't capture it. I do like Torterra more than the Ape or the Armadillo though.

>>58011662
I see. I like Torterra even more than Venusaur, but for someone who likes Venusaur more that is indeed understandable. Thanks for letting me understand you point.
If you don't mind, I'll go into a bit more detail on my thoughts on Primarina. I find it physically revolting. Both themes it uses (seal and female diva) are fine on their own, but when combined together I feel like each just kills any appeal the other one had, making both of them together worse than each one separately. Like putting tits on Kirby or monster truck wheels on a MiG-29. The other starters' bad designs I can just gloss over, but this one makes me turn away in disgust.

>>58011609
I care

Shuckle EX coming

>>58011721
>300 hp basic ex
>10 damage attack for 1 energy
>5 retreat cost (yes cards can have 5 retreat cost)
would it see play

>>58011728
>greninja snipes your backline while you spend 5+ turns before you can do damage in increments above 10
not only would it be a bad card, it would be detrimental to even play and by that metric would be worse than even dragon giratina

>>58011736
clearly the solution is to run double shaymin-sky and leaf so that it can retreat for 1 energy

>>58011728
>Berry juicer
>If this pokemon has a tool with "Berry" in its name attached at the end of your opponent's turn, heal XX damage from this pokemon and discard all tool cards attached to it.

>>58011736
T18 Shuckle EX is going to be meta trust

>>58011749
>Bugsy
Your grass type pokemon attacks that cost 1 or less energy deal 150 damage this turn.

When will shuckle fags realize he's just going to be pack filler

>>58011757
there's no rhyme or reason to which mons get ex and which don't
CG had fucking dhelmise and crabominable as ex cards
but there's a fate worse than pack filler, and that's pack filler unusable ex like dhelmise

>>58011728
Would be fun if it had a Sweet Relay/Sweet Overload effect where each consecutive use got more powerful.

>>58011757
Fuck you bitch suck a donkey balls

>>58011754
Bugsy is my friend, he wouldn't do that

>>58011771
I don't think Fury Cutter fits Shuckle. Bad pack filler Pinsir ex maybe.

>>58011757
i would never

>>58011781
It's for Rollout.

I got my first God pack today... Is any of this stuff usable?

>>58011808
>3 shinies, planetaslop raichu, and a 1-star
this is the world dena wants btw

>>58011808
not meta but meta is gay

>>58011808
grim

>>58011808
wigglytuff and venusaur are unplayable now, bulu has never been relevant to anything ever, and alola raichu is an anti-meta card that's not anti this meta
sorry bro

>>58011834
>>58011829
Killing myself.
>>58011823
I just want usable cards... I haven't been able to pull anything good at all recently.

>>58011808
>2 venusaur AND wigglytuff
Run a heals deck.

>>58011848
heal decks are a meme, you'll never put enough heals on the board to make shitcards like venu ex worth using. by the time you even get to 4 energy you've probably had to blow most of your heal cards just to keep it from dying to silvally or rampardos or solgaleo or whatever and then it has no more staying power.

new set trailer in a couple days, yeah?

>>58012004
Day 22 at the "Presents".

>>58012004
Normally it would be a week from release, but they are stalling it for the pokemon presents

>>58012072
The presents happens before when the usual reveal would be.

>>58012004
Probably saving it for the Pokémon Present.

>>58012077
eevee grove trailer dropped on the 18th, it's absolutely delayed.

>>58012123
Eevee Grove released on the 25th. This pack isn't coming out until the 30th.

>>58012142
Goddammit, I want this malasada faggot and dei freak nightmare to end! I WANT OPEN 10 PACKS AGAIN!

>avoid playing rampardos because it seems so cheap
>finally get bored enough to try it
>it's actually fun
god damn it.

I literally have done nothing but open my two free packs a day since the set came out

>>58012219
sorry dude you were metaslave-brained from the start

>>58012269
feels like you have to be metaslave brained to even be able to play the game nowadays with how much faster everything's gotten.
i used to play an STS abomasnow deck back in the SR meta because darktina was slow enough that you could actually ramp with manaphy, nowadays it feels like if a card requires more than 2 energy to attack and doesn't ramp somehow or have a cheap secondary attack it's literally unplayable and you're going to lose 99 times out of 100 if you put it in your deck.
it's a shame.

superior american deckbuilding

>>58012303
>16 mons
VGH a true pokemon master

>>58012303
>1-5-0
the real question is, who is the 1 deck that lost to this?

>>58012290
im at top 1k with tapu-corio which is kind of meta but also not

>>58012329
surprising absolutely no one, he didn't actually win a game
for some reason it counts as a win on limitless though

>>58012218
>see a pack with 2 EX cards
>pick neither of them

>Add Torkoal into fire deck
>Suddenly start winning more often
We can't keep this under wraps anymore, get him in!

>>58012386
torkoal super underrated. It's kind of like a turtonator that requires less commitment

>Another day of my opponents finding everything they need in a turn or two while I brick over and over, except for the times I finally draw a good hand that immediately gets red carded/Marsed
God I can't wait for a meta shake-up that slows the game back down again! Surely continuously accelerating win conditions until the game gets decided by the opening draw/coin flip sn't a viable future for the game mid-to-late term!

>>58012386
I added him to my Stokezard deck purely for Oricorio control, and haven't fought a single Oricorio deck since adding him in... In a way, I guess he's doing his "Oricorio deterrent" job...

>>58012398
I had 2 games in a row earlier where I pulled everything necessary for a Barry combo, and even got first turn both games to make the most of it.

>>58012398
>accelerating win conditions until the game gets decided by the opening draw/coin flip
if you're just now realizing this is how the game works you're a retard lmao

>bottom three cards are oak rare candy rare candy
oh yeah
gotta love it

>>58012443
Is this game played best of 3 in tournaments?

>>58012443
Skill issue

>>58012447
lol
lmao

>>58010933
>>58010922
what are you stupid niggers tard raging about?

i'm using a primarina deck with hau.

>Queue up ranked
>Flareon mirror match
>Opponent declines to draw 2 after playing Sylveon

?????
I even used my red card already. What

>Opponent got Garchomp EX and Aerodactyl on turn 3
This ain't fun

>maybe I'll finally get a fucking sylveon to finish my collection
I said foolishly as the game presents me with the gay bird

Fuck yeah think I'm finally done with this set. Hasn't been kind to me but think I got all the relevant EXs with 2 times Sylveon, Flareon and now finally Eeevee. Glad I didn't spend a single dime on this set. Premium for the next set in the works.

>>58012470
Can tell you've never played in a tourney because yes it is 2 out of 3

anyone have extra 1 star spiritomb?

>one flareon
>one dragonite
>one primarina
>one sylveon
>two eevee
>6 (six) snorlax
this set can go fuck itself

>>58012897
At least you can trade those snorlax away for each of the lacking EX you need and will keep a full set of every one of those cards anon. The real issue is getting no EX to trade away.

Uhhhh, so where is the content?

>>58012962
PvP

>>58012909
snorlax is the least meta of all of the EX this set
no one is going to be lining up to trade for it unless they're collectors

>Masterball opponent
>Plays Tsareena
>Flips tails 3 times and does 0 damage 3 times in a row
>Forfeits

Lmao

2 star trading when??

everything is so fast in current meta

anyone got an sr pikachu ex for trade? 5868236639154104

>DUPLICATE ex
venusaur ex
ga charizard ex
arcanine ex
mewtwo ex
pachirisu ex
mismagius ex
machamp ex
gallade ex
glaceon ex
arceus ex
lucario ex
bibarel ex
wishiwashi ex
alolan dugtrio ex

>Stall out an entire Darkrai/Guzzlord deck for 12 turns until the game finally decided my Cyrus would be the 2nd to last fucking card

I have now seen the light... & it was glorious

>>58013077
Everytime I matched a Oricorio deck I had to endure 30 turns of my Cosmoeom stalling out their whole existence.

>>58012335
That's how it works in sports when someone withdraws before the match even starts.

>>58012398
Game already is this, I had a match where I
>went first
>opening hand was two Eevee, Sylveon ex, Solgaleo ex and Poke Ball
>first draw is Oak
>Pokemon Ball gets Cosmog
>Oak gets Sylveon ex and Rare Candy
>My second turn, draw Oak
>Evolve two Sylveon and Solgaleo and play oak
>now unbreakable board and I've drawn 80% of my deck
Opponent conceded, I felt legitimately disgusting for it

>>58013190
>Feeling gay for using SolGAYleo

That tracks

>>58013081
Good, die.

i have 2 extra rocky helmets, and i have lots of extra trainer cards from the lunala/solgaleo packs.

is anyone willing to trade me mars and giant cape and irida or misty? or are there any pokemon of the same rarity you want instead? i really need trainer cards from more packs.

>>58013081
their fault for not running cards like tapu koko or luxray to muscle through it

>>58013219
I have Giant Cape, Irida and Misty to trade. Only two diamonds cards I'm missing are the Shiinotic and Brionne from the Lunala set, so I'd rather have those ones if you have extra, otherwise just give me whatever.
FC: 1431309592790352

Direct soon

>get to UB3
>proceed to lose games all the way back down to half of UB2
took breaks on losses, it was days of playing that knocked me back down. lost probably 10 games in a row. every time it is due to my opponent having everything the need for every situation, and me not having shit, or, of I do, I get to look at it and plan my turns only for it to be red carded away. there's absolutely no agency or skill on my part to contribute to my losses(or my wins, I'm sure, since the roles are likely reversed).

the actual "game" part of this sucks cock. it's a nice little card collecting app, but trying to "play" the "game" is laughable. and yet I still try. fuck this shit

>>58013292
It's a waifu collection game my man (actually husbando collector because all the females sucks and all the hot furriese are male)

red pill me on nihilego can I play his deck now is it good to not realu and a lists

>>58013339
Naganadel makes the deck too inconsistent, in my experience.

>>58013292
I got up to UB4 then kept oscillating between UB4-UB3 over and over again with a 54% win rate so I said "fuck it" and just stopped playing after crossing UB4 again.

>qu up random match
>get countered by the cheating ai deck no one ever plays
they aren't subtle

is a turn 2 hard Candy Evolution a default loss always

>>58013398
It was always a loss if the opponent can get their attacker online before you can.

Going first was still OK for 2-energy stage-2 decks
Then Rare Candy came out and those 2-energy stage-2 decks also prefer to go second now

>>58013411
what decks even like going first these days? arceus/crobat, stokezard, zeraora?

What are some good stage 2 decks? I pulled two immersive lillies and i want to use them somewhere

>>58013436
Solgaleo is the deck that can best make use of Lillie.

another day another game of the cheating ai cresting responses out of thin air. rip my fuckin oricorio

>>58013436
stokezard and ramp chomp are the only decks that run double lillie these days

>>58013448
>>58013443
different opinions but thanks, i'll look them up

>>58013449
solgaleo only runs 1 lillie, running 2 is bad when there are so many other important cards the deck needs

>>58013422
Toucannon lmao

>>58006810
Porygon-Z is game breaking, but it takes too long to set up and everything is already a killer by the time it does. You basically have to run it with energy killers like Grunt and Guzzlord and pray they don't have energy accelerators which are going to be more and more common every release.

>>58013468
stoutland also just does the energy denial thing better. pretty much everything relevant has at least one colorless in their cost so even if you get porygon up it's still not likely to actually hinder them all that much.

What's this guzzlord Darkrai deck people are speaking about?

Do you figure they'll introduce set rotation format for PvP when the powercreep gets uncreepable?

>>58013494
this game will never have rotation
they can't rotate until series C at minimum and we aren't even at B yet
the game will not survive that long

>>58013494
As soon as I do, I'm dropping the game.

>>58013497
>the game will not survive that long

Do we have any statistics?
Why can't they just keep going like they are doing right now? Seems like they rake in the cash with the least effort and even if the numbers drop significantly they'll be fine.

>>58013501
They're all burning through their shill picks and we're not even a year in.

>>58013501
the rate of powercreep is unbearably fast and indicative of their expectations of the game's lifespan
most of my normalfag friends already stopped playing because the pvp is getting exponentially worse every set
and they already hit the eevee button not a year in

>>58013422
Greninja.

>>58013250
idk if i offered the right shiinotic, but i just responded. need anything for irida and giant cape?

>>58013508
Not just Eevee, but they also smashed the Lillie glass.

>>58013510
Yep, that's the right one. All I'm missing now is the Brionne from the same set, but if you don't have it, just send me whatever.

>>58013514
>>58013508
EoS soon

>>58013521
They'll at least make it through a few B sets before it all falls off.

>>58013514
I don't see why the mons (or trainers) matter, they can always release the same mons in different, stronger cards. They already do

>>58013422
Anything with Sylveon if you open with it since you can evolve and draw on turn 3

>>58013547
Eevee Grove 2 wouldn't hit the same.

>>58013516
at least i had that. i didn't need it. but i need my brionne unfortunately, because it's part of my primarina deck.

>>58013521
Bruh it's about to get a WHOLE lot worse as there's still the onslaught of cancerous gimmicks with less than worthless packfiller+Shinys so we're pretty far off:

>Holon/Tera
>Megas
>BREAK
>V-Max
>Tag-Team

The game makes WAY too much money for EoS

>>58013596
It's also lazy and cheap enough it could survive extreme drops in revenue and still make profit

fuck my god damn life nigger this game is so trash, where is some bot to grind that shit for me so i only open packs? fuck all of you corporate bootlickers and your obession with consumpcionism. because of you garbage like this gets a pass

>>58013604
Yeah, all they need to do is shit out ~10 or so new pieces of art per set for the RRs and the immersive. Planetaslop makes itself. The rest of the art is recycled. Like, four people max are needed to design cards gameplay-wise.

This game would be a lot more fun if they didn't kill godpacks or introduce a ranked mode

>>58013839
Please understand. Letting godpacks continue would have discouraged whales. And replacing monthly (setly?) missions with ranked was the easiest way to add more content.

>>58013852
>was the easiest way to add more content
"More content" did not get added. Content actually got removed.

>>58013858
Yes but it tricked enough people into thinking otherwise
Including those that want to spend lots of time playing the game and are willing to spend on getting meta deck asap

>>58013016
bro there's always someone with an extra of the cards you need and they need something you have. Don't despair. Unless those are 4 extra rainbow snorlax or 2 star, you're fine.

What pack should I open? I'm finally done with EG.

>>58013666
Just roll a gambling simulator? What's the point of owning the cards if you're not using them to play the game?

sylveon players are such fucking subhumans
>durr you didn't draw red card turn 2 so i get to vomit my entire deck onto the field
if you play this filth you deserve to be tortured to death in front of your entire family

>>58013909
In my defense, I was playing Sylveon Incineorar
>Playing red card
The nigger is you

>>58013077
Fix'd

I just collected all diamond cards from this set without buying a single pack. Have 964 hourglasses saved for Johto.

Anyone baking a new bread or are we dead?

Newnew
>>58014076
>>58014076

>>58013995
stupid sexy bird...