Most ideas I see for a "mature Pokémon game" just boil down to "Pokémon but with blood and swearing."
ITT come up with actually good mature Pokémon ideas.

>>58007655 (OP)
That's how M ratings work, you dumbass. "Mature themes" will only get you as far as a T rating without shit worth censoring.

>>58007671
You're a retard.

>>58007655 (OP)
I would make a Pokémon game that’s central theme is centered around racism and race realism. It would have a setting similar to PMD where everyone is a Pokémon and they can speak and what not. Different types of Pokemon would display certain racial characteristics that leads to them building different types of societies and cultures, which these differences would also be the source of many of the worlds conflicts. The kingdoms and armies with more diverse populations would have a more adaptable and stronger military but at the cost of having a more unruly divided and dysfunctional society. The more homogenous societies would be more peaceful and just but have less impact in the world due to their limited capabilities.
I would say that type of setting could be rated M, depending on how dark you want to make the central conflicts of that world, though realistically it would be rated T.

>>58007655 (OP)
Your character has cancer and they have to face their approaching mortality while giving their dream a shot.

Oh wait that's just Wally uuuuuuuh...

Your character is from one of the worlds where -insert evil team- won from the Rainbow Rocket Team. The new world order they have created is the only life you've ever known and your character starts their journey believing this is just how the world of pokemon is supposed to be.

>>58007694
>brown esl
>obsessed with race
Why is this so common?

>>58007671
I agree anon. Take Deltarune as an example of a T-rated game. Give it a realistic art style and have Susie say "fuck" a few times and a guarantee it would be rated M.

>>58007734
This made me realize the 'Kris where the fuck are we' memes have gaslit me into believing Susie cussed.

>>58007734
*I guarantee

>>58007655 (OP)
Pokemon but with sex

>>58007655 (OP)
Pokemon but Monster Hunter.

>>58007706
t. dying race

>>58007706
stop fantasizing about me being brown.

They already did. It's called BW

>>58007819
Stop larping as being brown and we won't be calling you brown, schizo

>>58007738
I mean Rouxls says "God Damn It" in chapter 1, which... I think counts as a swear according to the ESRB?
Fucking hate how people use the ESRB to rate the maturity of a game, rather than the contents of the game itself.

>>58007834
Floridians are the heirs of the Roman Empire and Agartha. When Ryme made her debut, you started doing jazz hands.
Simple as

>>58007819
>Florida
communist cuban

>>58007655 (OP)
Blood, swearing, deaths and on-screen pokefucking.

>>58007655 (OP)
make them regular pokemon games but the ghost type areas are way more spooky without being gory

>>58007655 (OP)
>everyone at the Game Corner drinks and smokes
>Team Rocket members pull out guns and try to shoot at you during pokemon battles
>prostitutes are one of the trainer types you battle
>Mewtwo looks like full blown Frankenstein's monster

>>58007655 (OP)
the Logan film.... but with Lucario

>>58007655 (OP)
A Pokemon game where the evil team is a cult dedicated to summoning an evil Pokemon god to end the world. You start the game as someone kidnapped by the cult and sacrificed to their dark god in a ritual, which teleports you to some eldritch dimension on an altar to be eaten. But you escape your bindings and flee, picking up Pokeballs and catching Pokemon sacrificed and brought to this same realm for your team as you work to make your way back to Earth to defeat the cultists before the god can awaken.

>>58007655 (OP)
Pokemon beat em up in the vein of GOW/DMC/NMH etc. Small, specific roster of Pokemon you control, getting new ones similar to how you'd get new weapons to expand your moveset. Lots of synthetic Pokemon (Magneton, Regis, future paradoxes, etc) who can be dramatically disassembled for finishers without being gruesome. Slightly edgy save-the-world plot featuring some new Shadow Pokemon form fucking shit up a la Lugia, Mewtwo. Protag is lost in an ancient land with few humans and unfriendly Pokemon to give a lonesome exploration vibe when not fighting, mostly interacting and bonding with his team.

>>58007846
Your entire state is a sandbar being eaten by Poseidon. So yeah, a dying realm writhing under the impact of a dead god, I'll give you "Roman-ness".

>>58007655 (OP)
Uncensored penises.

>>58007655 (OP)
Make a real over-arching campaign that gracefully progresses instead of a 20 hour tutorial with the exact same beats as RBY followed by an awkward content cliff they try and call "postgame". And they're already trying to do this more. They just have to let go of some of the holdover elements and typecasting

Most M-rated games would be rated T if they had a non-realistic art style and toned down the swearing a bit.

>>58008461
The most immature thing in pokemon is how they handhold the shit out of the player, every NPC glazes the shit out of you for basic progress, and every game is made for someone who has never touched pokemon before.

Literally just take off the training wheels.

>in b4 >deconstruction

I think the easiest way to make a mature Pokemon game would be to follow some of the tenets of the games to their logical conclusions and build stories off of them. A lot of the set dressing or even themes in the Pokemon universe we take for granted but are kinda fucked up and/or ripe for exploring in a mature way:

>to what degree are Pokemon sentient?
Are they sentient enough to be close to or on the level of humans? Pokemon society treats them somewhere below the level of a partner but mostly more than a pet, but what kinds of rights would creatures of their level of sentience have?

>how much free will do Pokemon have?
Pokemon society is in part constructed around the spectacle of battling, but how much of a say do Pokemon get to have in it? In being captured at all, given that they're essentially taken out of their wild habitat and put under thrall of whoever happens to catch them, if they're not put in that situation from birth?

>why are children allowed out into the wild on their own at such a young age in a world with fantasy monsters?
Are there kids that get eaten out in the wilderness? Recruited by evil teams with either carrots or sticks? Are these kids considered legally of age in the Pokemon world?

>>58007683
He is a correct retard, cope.

you rang?

>>58007655 (OP)
Orre Region
wild pokemon return
the massive influx of new trainers will full teams means pokecenters, which where few and far between, are no longer free
every trainer fight now runs the risk of either bankruptcy or trainers stealing healing items from others or marts
evil organisation promises free healing but are actually uhhhh planning to awaken a box legendary
either way, non of this has to involve blood or actual violence, just petty theft, as per usual in pokemon

>>58007846
>bunch of cloggies mixed with anglesXsaxons and fr*acois living in an amerindian swamp claiming to be the descendants of a pagan olive skinned boy-buggering military cult from the middle of the italian peninsula

>>58007655 (OP)
Trying to raise a daughter on a Trainer's salary

>>58007694
I'm intrigued. Any specific ideas you had in mind? Do any of these sound like something you'd come up with?
>Dark types facing prejudice for being underhanded but it respects the audience and presents the issue as a morally grey chicken or the egg scenario
>Legendaries arrogantly appointing themselves as gods but at the same time fulfilling roles that the lesser mons don't truly appreciate
>Shit mons forming organizations that help them compete with high-tier mons with some members of the organization genuinely wanting to help the unfortunate while others want revenge
>Mega evolutions are depicted in a dark way like in gen 7 and are portrayed as steroids or other harmful drugs

>>58007655 (OP)
A Pokemon game where a trainer's pokèmon influences their physical capabilites and skills (If you train psychic types you gain ESP powers, if you train electric types you can move faster...) in a mutual cultivation process to the point where high level trainers become bulletproof superhumans
Gameplay would be a tag action game like SMT Raidou, with perks encouraging monotype teams

>>58008825
ReBurst game

>>58007655 (OP)
How about just a darker story in general, with actions that actually have consequences. Plus add references to romance and drugs.

>>58007734
>>58007738
why the fuck do you know anything about this underage zoomer game?

>>58008859
Branching paths would be so peak.

>>58007706
>>58007819
>>58007834
So people can call me brown with impunity but I am not allowed to respond back? What underhanded Paldean voodoo rites is this? Why does Delcatty have to sit at the back of the bus?

Pokemon seems like it would lend itself to spooky/creepy kinds of atmosphere, but for that they would have to stop looking like N64 games.

>>58009014
all of those posts are off topic and should be removed, yours stand out more and get hammered down because of your avatar

>>58007655 (OP)
TRPG with child soldiers where people literally fight alongside a Pokémon partner on the battlefield

Despite the extremely dark premise, the tone is very lighthearted. Kids are like 13-17, either outright cocksure or at least confident that they can help.

The game is about walking a tightrope in a super precarious situation. You have to manage team dynamics between clashing personalities, all the Pokémon’s needs, and various enemy factions while defending your “turf.” Global events can fuck things up randomly, and the entire game is built on persevering even in the face of some really desperate shit. It would probably only get an M rating thanks to moderate injuries being portrayed on children and some very sparse cursing, nothing too drastic

Put emphasis on the Pokémon as literal living bioweapons. Clarify how even one person with one Pokémon can level a town if they put their minds to it. Keep the game mired in a constant sense of paranoia around every single one, having status effects that can turn your own team against you and possibly have a plot point revolving around the cockiest guy in your squad losing his Pokémon to the enemy after being promised a better life (after being used like a tool/neglected most of the game).

Really lean into friendship both as a positive and enjoyable thing, but also an extremely necessary precaution because of how fucking dangerous the monsters can be

just some shit I’m flinging at the wall so this probably isn’t very coherent. Might work as a historical fantasy too, like a Conquest sequel or something.

>>58007655 (OP)
Black and white except not written by retards with the ultimate lesson that yes, pokemon get hurt in battles but the bond between pokemon and trainer is more than that.It's a 1% chance to have an egg spawn when you sleep in the same bed as your female pokemon.

>>58007694
I actually like this idea. Something like Zootopia, without humans, and less Disney or Nintendo-fied.

>>58007655 (OP)
You fuck Pokémon

>>58007655 (OP)
I've been thinking over the years if a noir style pokemon game could work.

>>58008872
>"underage zoomer game"
>he said
>with zero irony
>on the Pokemon board

>>58007655 (OP)
Apocalypse Now but you're young Lt. Surge in whatever war they had and become a gym leader at the end

>>58009204
I like this. I think the "Pokemon as weapons" angle is good

>>58009836
I’m honestly surprised it hasn’t been tackled yet, outside of *maybe* the movies where it’s just used as a way to convey how evil the villains are

>>58009749
Pokemon is a kids franchise but it came out before zoomies were even born. Most people associate it with millennials

>>58009204
That's a little too far in the other direction but a Legends game set during whatever war Lt. Surge fought in would be neat

>>58010912
If only Gamefreak could make it without fucking it up.

>>58012038
Oh they can't make anything like this, that's a given.

>>58007655 (OP)
add blood to plass

A first person shooter set in the edgyverse (Zirca + Grim Darkwood + whatever) where you play as a hilariously dysfunctional interpol agent tasked with destabilizing the Zircan government. The game is hilariously edgy, and themes such as drug use, rape, human/pokemon trafficking, and institutional corruption are very prominent.

Despite everything, it is also very fun to play. The gameplay is similar to Ready or Not, with squad mechanics and realistic firefights in close quarters. The maps are completely destructible, and figuring out which walls, ceilings, and barriers your Pokemon will need to bust through is a huge part of planning out a mission. But be careful; if you do it too often, the building might come down on top of you.

Approach the target building quietly. Figure out who's inside. Break in. Kill everyone as quickly as possible. Leave no witnesses. The "why" isn't important, you have your orders.

...And when you get back to your safehouse, you are haunted by visions of Brendoom

>>58007655 (OP)
Everyone ITT is a retard with
>muh violence
>muh edgy themes
>muh dark aesthetic
Getting an M rated Pokémon game is easy
>put the game center back with uncensored gambling
>make explicit the references about the sexual relationships that human have with their pokémon
>make explicit once again the notion that pokémon are animals that can die
RBY would be rated M if released today due to ESRB's ruling in 2020 to make any explicit gambling representation an automatic 18+

>>58007655 (OP)
>game corner is back
>daycare explicitely state that you have eggs because pokemons do have sex.
>evil team is more destructive and doesn't hesitate to remove peoples who hold them back
That's all I can think of.

>>58012561
>didn’t read the OP award

>>58013705
>Can't read more than a single paragraph award

>>58013705
>>58013757
Least obvious sharty raiders

>>58007838
Did you know that the ESRB is not only non-federal, but also has no actual backing behind it? It legit only has power because stores and storefronts like ratings for whatever sick reasonings.

bringn back the grittier elements of kanto and bring back the "boy meets world" feel where you realize the urban world outside your hometown may not be that friendly. organizational corruption w/crime rings running certain aspects of the world (giovanni was part of the pokemon league which i feel is never really brought up), explicit mention that people and pokemon alike die (lavender tower), bring back the game corner, have some more random NPCs be assholes or pervs
tl:dr; make the pokemon world not a barney the dinosaur tier happyland

>>58007655 (OP)
pokemon hunting survival game. catch pokemon, explore pokemon dens and nests, skin and cook and eat pokemon, etc.

I think battling is like, the worst part of pokemon. Dont you always groan when you get into a trainer battle? My idea would be a 2D game maybe?? Explore the overworld, sneak up on mons, or get ambushed. Ambushes (basically tall grass encounters) would be rarer and feature higher level, more threatening and rare mons to “scare” or excite the player if its a mon they want to catch.

Win condition? Unsure. Perhaps just exploring the entire region would be the end-game, or just completing the dex.
Id still probably include trainer battles, but be far rarer. Leveling up would be a step based thing rather than xp since I plan encounters to be rarer in general so you cant exactly grind. Basically a survival exploration game with rpg elements instead of the other way around.

>>58013996
They like ratings because it moves liability on content away from the retailer. If there is some shit on the box saying if it's suitable for kids or not no underpaid wagie has to know anything about the product. They can just point to the bit on the box that tells you about it. It also means if parent buys something then wants to complain because it's not suitable for kids, it's not the store's fault, parents should have read the box.

>>58007694
No offense but I've seen ideas just like that on Reddit and Tumblr.

>>58014071
>I think battling is like, the worst part of pokemon. Dont you always groan when you get into a trainer battle?
how the fuck did you end up here?

palworld already exist

>>58007655 (OP)
Sexoooooooo

You are a former champion, you were attacked by the crime gang antagonists and your pokemon were murdered. You have to start again from nothing.
There are rival gang territory wars fought with pokemon, you may choose to join the opposing gang, work with the police force or go lone wolf. Your goals are to avenge your pokemons deaths, regain your status as champion, and depending on which side you decided to join, dismantle the gangs or take over your rivals territory. There is no master plan to destroy the whole world or anything, purely power and money driven bad guy stuff.

>>58007655 (OP)

Make Pokemon more like Persona. Take the school idea in SV and expand it. No strict scheduling for social links but do expose the player to real world problems through them. If the evil team steals, or experiments on Pokemon show more details on it and maybe have a conversation between team admins sound like an episode of the Sopranos. Artstyle like Tales of Arise.

Pokemon but you molest the hebe trainers after you beat them in battles