No more excuse to cheat now, genners! No more "pay to win" excuse either! Play the game you lazy fucks or don't compete in championships! Stop cheating! Stop paying people to get Pokemon for you when you know there's a risk of genning!

>>58029527 (OP)
No one going to tournaments is posting here

.....the entire series relies on the fears of "missing out"; it will forever be PTW.

It will never replace Smogon's Showdown.

>>58029527 (OP)
>still need plass and home to use a 0 speed IV Ursaluna
yeah, it's still very much pay to win

>>58029539
Stop cheating. You've gotta own a game to play, so stop bitching and get the Pokemon properly. :)

>>58029541
Nope! You can change IVs in Champions. They showed it off. Quit whining and stop cheating.

>>58029527 (OP)
It's a step in the right direction for people who just want to play ((official)) pikachu chess. I will miss handing out injected shit like contraband, though.

My decision to finish off all the competitive ready stuff I wanted over the past year has really paid off

>>58029527 (OP)
>No more excuse to cheat now, genners!
It literally needs a mainline game if you want to use specific mons not present for recruitment in game retard

competitive pokemon is gay

>>58029553
Literally where or when?
The only thing shown was being able to change IVs/Natures/Moves with VP currency

>>58029712
>Say you can change IVS
>"NU UH! THEY ONLY SHOWED IVS!"
Dumbass.

>>58029712
Why did none of you people watch the trailer? They showed off changing stats and it literally listed a range of 32 from top to bottom on those stats, which corresponds to 0-31 as a range of IV values.

I fell like I'm taking fucking crazy pills, did NONE of you watch the trailer? It was right there.

>>58029546
TPCI could never DCMA Showdown. Seethe faggot.

>>58029700
Which is fine. Catch them in the single player mode, then edit them in Champions. It's not outrageous to ask people to buy the game.

>>58029733
Aren't those EVs? There's a 66 points limit
Those can't be IVs tho

>>58029733
>>58030013
This is what I mean, those are in no way IVs

>>58029718
Meant to say EVs, see >>58030034

>>58030034
>>58030043
at level 50, 63 stat points that are normally from EVs at 100 become 32 stat points instead, so 32 + 32 + 2 equates to 508 EVs and these are not actually IVs now that I look at it

what this means is that either you can't change IVs or they don't exist (which would be fine)

>>58029733
If anything 32 values corresponds to how 252 EVs at level 50 give 32 points per stat, now even with that 66 points aren't possible; something's off

The 66 represents the EVs since the original value was rounded down and divided by 8 giving us 1 extra EV point. Gardevoir has 1 extra EV in sp def which wasn't possible before. Also to the blind fags there is no option to reduce IVs.

>>58029539
Hard disagree. Part of the fun is that you don’t get everything, adhd zoomer. Your journey is yours and you’re gonna meet different pokemon and have different experiences do you even actually like this game you dumb piece of shit

>>58030094
Well something is certainly off...

>>58030193
>Retard confused Sp.Def with Sp.Atk
In any case the stats fall 1 point short to be identical to Champion's Gardevoir, there might be a few extra EVs or some error in the trailer

>>58029541
>ursaluna is available in go
Get new material

>>58029700
You can rent (for 7 days or permanently) Pokemon in Champions though, that should solve that issue.

>>58029527 (OP)
>need currency to edit pokemon, missing the entire reason why Showdown is so convenient and fun to use
Champions wishes it was Showdown

>>58029527 (OP)
>No more excuse to cheat now
Never cheated in my life yet now I'm being punished by being made to grind again.
My pokemon in Home are basically meaningless.
I spent an obscene amount of time getting shiny perfect IV and nature 'mons in Sun/Ultra Sun and this game is basically invalidating that work.

>>58029527 (OP)
>You still need to catch the Pokemon are buy them with in-game currency
>You need to grind in-game currency by winning battles
>If you don’t have an already prepared team, you’ll keep losing, defeating the purpose of the new VP system
>All they had to do was fucking let you manually control your Pokemon’s stats without any bullshit like you can on Showdown
also
>It pisses you off
More than enough reasons to “cheat”

>>58029539
Based, Smogon is the heart of Pokemon now

>>58031008
This post confirms my theory that breedcucks have such vitriolic feelings toward injectors is because all the hours they feel like they wasted on their Pokemon collection.
They have no real reason to hate injectors. They don’t inject Pokemon with any competitive advantage like giving Zacian Huge Power and DIB. They inject standard Incineroar set with their IV spread which is indistinguishable from legit Incineroar.
No, instead they are upset that someone else able to get the collection they spent months to years getting in the spand of 10 minutes.

>>58029527 (OP)
>can't edit ivs
no thanks bro

>>58029527 (OP)
There won't be a 6v6 ladder. Why would I play this trash?

>>58029527 (OP)
Yeah, I'm going to stick to playing Showdown, Champions looks like ass

>>58030096
>Part of the fun is wasting time doing dumb shit stupid shit instead of getting straight to competitive battling within a few clicks
The mind of a CONSOOMbot is really something else...

>>58030929
Not really, unless the game gave you access to all mons avaliable without home

>>58031076
>This post confirms my theory that breedcucks have such vitriolic feelings toward injectors is because all the hours they feel like they wasted on their Pokemon collection
Lmao, I don't like breeding but imagine doing mental gymnastics to try to justify cheating in a children's game

>>58031076
>breeding in S/M/US/UM
You can chain a large portion of pokemon in those games and get perfects fairly consistently compared to being a breedcuck
You'd have to be a retard to think that anyone breeds in those games.

>>58031708
Fucking This