Thread 58040343

Come here for talk about all things Pokémon Mystery Dungeon.

Previous thread: https://arch.b4k.dev/vp/thread/58001232/ >>58001232

PMD Catalog (read Branches.txt for MEGA navigation): https://mega.nz/folder/gi5k2DBL#wVscYMtiXMuAeWDvKYyfmw

Pokemon Mystery Dungeon ROMs and Emulators Catalog: https://mega.nz/folder/ciVjBRoD#5vICIpkn16o-i1co11yFFg

PMD Fangames Catalog: https://mega.nz/folder/Yyk3gQaI#NNSyFhuoa2Cg5HuL2oEyTg

Romhacks Overview/Reviews: https://rentry.org/pmdglph

PMD Fan Fiction Archive: https://rentry.org/pmdg-ffarchive

PMD Guides: https://pastebin.com/Dbq61R5u
Explorers of Sky Romhacking Guide: https://rentry.org/skytempleguide

Everything about the Clover Guild: https://cloverguild.com/
Drawing Board: https://magma.com/d/amJOLydMWy
Mobile Drawing Board: https://magma.com/d/xsCNHWsgqp
Drawing Request: https://rentry.org/DrawReqPublic

Questions:
>Why do you think so many PMD fans are so obsessed with rehashing EoS instead of making new content?
>Do you think Pokémon like Magnemite eat electricity? If so, where do they get it in the PMD universe?
>What is your favorite remix of a PMD song (link it!)?
>What are some QoL fixes you would like to the next PMD game and why?

Recap of the previous thread:
>Vaporeanon wrote a bunch of flash fics: A Berry Nice Day with Team Moxie (https://rentry.org/berryniceday), Midwinter Rest with Team Emerald Spark (https://rentry.org/CG-MWRest), and Reminiscence with Alphonse and Bethel (https://rentry.org/CG-rem)
>No new PMD but the Pokémon Company is probably saving that announcement for the presents that happens on the 30th anniversary of Pokémon
>Many PMD comic reviews
>Discussion on food in PMD, Skytemple, and PMDO
>Lots of art was posted

>>58040343 (OP)
>eos_remake_confirmed

>>58040343 (OP)
>>Why do you think so many PMD fans are so obsessed with rehashing EoS instead of making new content?
The fans? Consumer culture is obsessed with the shiny new thing referencing popular games that sold multiple decades ago. Don't you understand they want it to be the current thing again?
>>Do you think Pokémon like Magnemite eat electricity? If so, where do they get it in the PMD universe?
electrostatics
i'm not elaborating
>>What is your favorite remix of a PMD song (link it!)?
anything that was done by own eye but i think they're dead so i can't link them
>>What are some QoL fixes you would like to the next PMD game and why?
have a toggle between whether you push or not with different effects

>>58040343 (OP)
>Favorite remix of a old song
I quite like >https://youtu.be/BZOEOkGXOfg
and I am looking forward to seeing others posted.

>>58040564
Really like this guy's jazz fusion remixes. This one's my favorite
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=SjAjzbx8WUk&si=T5H9opJE8LlAJ-BZ

>>58040343 (OP)
>>Why do you think so many PMD fans are so obsessed with rehashing EoS instead of making new content?
At least with romhacks, it's the easiest thing to do. Tweaking the preexisting cutscenes is way easier than scripting your own, and it doesn't help that SkyTemple has zero tutorials on what you need to do to even get new cutscenes to play. It's a weird blind spot where most of the resources are written for people who are already familiar with the basics of SkyTemple. There was a nice video tutorial I followed when I was trying to learn, but the guy privated it after his hack was removed from the SkyTemple website

seedlers

>>58040343 (OP)
all mega links are dead

>>58043391
We know
Maybe we should just remove them from the OP

>>58044704
How the team be looking moments before making everything worse for everyone

>>58046292
Phat

>>58046623
>glasses
At least make it the glasses already in the games ffs

>>58046710
>be nearsighted in the pokemon world
>only options are to not see shit or look like a clown
damn

>>58046917
>be nearsighted in the pokemon world
just eat a lum berry or a heal seed

>>58046917
>look like a clown
The Xray Specs are /fa/ as fuck, get the fuck out of here.

>>58046710
>THESE ARE LITERALLY THE ONLY GLASSES IN THE PMD WORLD

Do PMD fans really.

>>58047005
you either stick to the little canon there is or do whatever the fuck you want to the point fursuits that barely look like pokemon are considered pmd

>>58047113
This is how you get
>everyone only ever eats apples and berries, and in fact that's the only food that exists, period. (With the exception of rare sweets such as chocolate and donuts, with absolutely NO precursors.)
though.

Booker and Sneasel have differing opinions on cute marketable plushies.

>>58040343 (OP)
>Why do you think so many PMD fans are so obsessed with rehashing EoS instead of making new content?
Probably because it's popular and gives you a solid base to work off of. And being original is more difficult.
>Do you think Pokémon like Magnemite eat electricity? If so, where do they get it in the PMD universe?
I'm not sure how common it would be, but I know some species (like Joltik) canonically absorb electricity. Electric-types would be the most obvious source of it.
>What is your favorite remix of a PMD song (link it!)?
I'll post a few that I remember liking.
Here's a nice Treasure Town remix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNk6W12B5sg
I also like the Far Amp Plains remix I used as background music in "Thunder Dome": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFiT-PwRRW8
And this is a solid album of Explorers remixes/remasters: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLE6aYtpCNqiqz4srWamIdI538pp2xBLCe
>What are some QoL fixes you would like to the next PMD game and why?
Would bringing back the basic attack count as a QoL change? Because I loved the basic attack in Sky, and I wish they didn't nerf/remove it in more recent games.

>>58047113
You're a fucking idiot.

>>58047113
Your idea of what canon is involves subtracting all common tenses of reality until you end up with what this anon said >>58047135

That's RETARDED.

>>58047005
Why do they need more if everybody's vision is already good? They're not for corrective reasons, they're for seeing the unseeable, like traps.

>>58047358
it's a slippery slope

>>58047005
To be fair, considering the PMD world's tech level, I don't believe they'd have the same sort of optometry/eyeglasses we do. Putting modern-day real-world glasses on PMD OCs looks really out of place.

>>58047373
Glasses have been a thing since at least the 13th century. I treat PMD with a medieval lens (hue) with a mix of bronze age and tribalism flair (monster hunter-tier)

There is literally nothing wrong with Pokemon wearing glasses (other than the fact that glasses are for dorks).
Though I imagine you'd have trouble wearing glasses while exploring dungeons and fighting, since they are fragile and expensive.

>>58047742
Exactly! They're not good for anyone who might be fighting, but that's entirely a practical consideration.

>>58047742
My problem with glasses are non-humanoid Pokemon comfortably wearing glasses that are clearly designed for human faces.

>>58040343 (OP)
Can I recruit Jurachi even while having open / rescued pokemon during the exploration? ( in the originals )
I noticed that if I rescued a mon in the groudon dungeon I dont get to the last segment of the dungeon anymore. It cuts off and sends me home before the Kangaskhan safe point.

>>58048191
I'm not sure, but personally I wouldn't even bother trying. Mission rewards in RT suck enough as it is, and anything you could get from said mission reward could be obtained by simply wishing at Jirachi anyways.

>>58048238
just got to F78 trying and was beaten by a Magmar. I was so close to finding out.

>>58048333
What mon were you using?

https://youtu.be/7WWV8dNScP4
Is anyone else watching this?

>>58040343 (OP)
>>Why do you think so many PMD fans are so obsessed with rehashing EoS instead of making new content?
i always figured it was that with sky generally being regarded as the best entry despite two installments coming out after (not including RTDX) it can be hard to picture something that would top sky; hence, modernizing it with current QoL would be the next best thing
while admittedly i'd love a remake to vindicate all that nostalgia and see it acknowledged i do feel like whatever remake is made would add loads of unnecessary changes when really what i'd want is sky with more plotlines and new gen mons added (which i found a romhack for and have been greatly enjoying my espurr/alola vulpix playthrough of)
that and i think the 3D PMD style looks like ass in most cases, or at least painfully mediocre

>>58048898
>when really what i'd want is sky with more plotlines and new gen mons added
this is why i play pmdo because i can get my fix there for that sort of thing.
i'd love for tpc to get off their ass and allow it but i'm not going to hold my breath

>>58048898
im extremely exhausted i thought the question was asking why fans want an EoS remake rather than an entirely new game, not in terms of what fans are making romhack wise
but i imagine it's mainly that it just seems that way since the romhacking scene hasn't been developed enough/existed long enough for a full game campaign to be made instead of a single mini story akin to the special episodes

>>58048910
>pmdo
i always read this as "pokemon mystery dungeon online" which makes me think it's this one pmd mmo fangame that was incredibly scuffed in a cringekino way but also kinda sucked to play as a result. i had to google to refresh my memory on what pmdo actually was
i haven't checked out that project in at least a year and a half, probably even more than that. last i remember there wasn't much to do other than an L1 dungeon where you'd unlock different mons you can start as when you encounter them ingame, is there more now?

>>58048919
there's a lot more now. it's not finished, but you can access a lot more now. i'm pretty sure as long as the spriters get off their ass there'll soon be sprites for every pokemon too, but most of the big couple are in there already

also yeah i don't know who else is using pmdo to refer to anything that isn't origins without having to be specific about it.

>>58048922
i dont think "pokemon mystery dungeon online" was the actual name of that fangame but when i see the acronym my brain goes "oh that acronym visually reminds me of pokemmo"
i have zero idea what the fangame was called but i dont remember much that would help me identify it
i think all i remember was
>you chose your player 'mon by going into different rooms of starters grouped by type
>ralts was a starter
>i think hippopotas was a starter
i'll have to check out PMDO again soon. probably after i finish explorers of fortune (that romhack i mentioned) but i also wanna make that a long term save and not just a "do the main + postgame story missions then leave it" save

>>58048925
>>58048919
You're thinking of Pokemon Mystery Universe

>>58048791
>future paradox mons
yikes
iv anon already let us know how poorly those stories go

>>58048450
shedninja.
tried using apples and reviver seeds to just avoid enemes and find the stairs using warp scarf.
It worked fine most of the time. What drained my reviver seed was one npc throwing stones through the wall, which I had no answere to.

Would anyone here even try saving someone that deep in wishcave?

>>58048898
>spoiler
Pokemon always looked ass in 3D, to be honest. Only a handful of 3D games manage to make it look good like the Snap games.

>>58049295
agreed, i just think the 3D mystery dungeon games in particular look very milquetoast. i actually think the 3ds mainline games look okay for the handheld they're on (gen 6 specifically, gen 7 looks a little crustier) but a lot of things in gti/super just look... stale? not just the models but the presentation too. the shading being fairly subtle makes things look flat, there's no real distinct visual stylization so it just looks like stock gamedev assets, oddities like characters turning by turning their model and walk cycle animations not matching up with in-game move speed stick out a lot worse in 3D, so on. RTDX does remedy this somewhat with the pseudo watercolor style though

I don't like how RTDX looks. The watercolor style was a little overdone. It looks far better than the 3DS games but they gotta chill with it a bit

>>58049265

There's a number of reasons that went poorly that'd not help anyone to bring up. I still feel bad over it because I feel like I wasted something.

I've been considering writing one-off revamps to canonize those characters I failed under a better lens and nuke all the associated old stories that may as well not be canon and only cause confusion in the archives. I'd nuke all their art that I'm no longer proud of off the booru too if I could, but apparently removing entries on there causes issues.

>>58049929
I still like Turk and Error

>>58049929
It's okay anon, mustel and serpes mog the fuck outta turk and error

>TONIGHT
>I WRITE ON A BOX
>Reviver seed : )
>SMITH TALKS TO A WOMAN
>hello
>AND PHANPY COMMITS ARSON

>>58050770
No woman can resist the "hello"

>>58050963
Good Lord, what is happening in there!?

>>58051355
I know these mobile games do have some kind of audience, but who gives a fuck about Pokemon Sleep? Like seriously, why does this exist? How is it making money?

How do quadrupeds move things? Seems especially hard if you have hooves...
>Why do you think so many PMD fans are so obsessed with rehashing EoS instead of making new content?
It's easy! And it doesn't require redoing any part of the canon.
>Do you think Pokémon like Magnemite eat electricity? If so, where do they get it in the PMD universe?
I don't think so... They probably just like, absorb food somehow. o_O
>What is your favorite remix of a PMD song (link it!)?
https://youtu.be/BZOEOkGXOfg
PMD and jazz is a wonderful combo :)!
>What are some QoL fixes you would like to the next PMD game and why?
Being able to quickly command teammates to do certain things or use certain moves would change everything...
>>58044704
team misfits... the team that sold the world o_o;!!!
>>58047137
I love this QuQ!!! Sneasel is actually quite marketable.

>>58051895
>Skiddo
What's the problem? He's got vines, that's practically the same as having hands

>>58051355
is this loss

Some of you might remember him and most probably don't but here is Glimmet! While he tries his best to appear professional and not embarass his escort, any sufficiently loud noise will be enough for him to scatter his toxic debris all over the place! Freshly trained minesweeper, so fresh in fact that he's stil chaperoned by Spritzee, a retired adventurer who still takes on escort missions. He's been having a great time observing Glimmet's reactions.
And this mismatched duo travels around the land stopping from guild to guild to clean up the area from most natural traps that might pop up here and there before moving to the next.
Each time they're about to leave town, Glimmet leaves to the guild all the sketches he drew during his stay, and he just happens to have left a handful at Clover's desk!

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>>58052415
holy sovl

>>58052387
Holy kino

>>58052387
Great work, anon! I like your style, and I’m grateful you drew two Bookers. They both look very cute. Thanks for drawing things from our request list.
Glimmet is a cool mon, and this duo seems fun. Traveling around and removing traps is a neat idea. Though I have to wonder how Glimmet draws without any hands... Guess that just makes his art even more impressive.
Hope to see more of your art and these characters in the future!

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>>58052415
Very nice work, anon.

>>58052387
ENTER

>>58052415
>someone remembered ronnie vs scraggy
i kneel

>>58052160
No, this is gain (with high-speed amp btw)

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>>58052415
Amazing art, very cool artstyle!

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>>58052415
boring art. ugly style.

>>58040343 (OP)
It's been 3 months, but I finally managed to finish another story.
This is "Howlsong", in which Booker meets Heidi, and they have a chat about fear, courage, and singing. It's 2500 words and happens shortly after Heidi and her team join the guild.
Thanks to Petal-Purr for reviewing my draft. I hope you all enjoy reading this, and I welcome feedback.

>https://rentry.org/RibombeeHowlsong

>>58054635
Always glad to see new Bookerkino

>>58052387
WHAT AN ENTRANCE!!!! Amazing art!! Especially love the phanpy with the foxes <3

thank you Glimmet anon!

>>58052160
No, it's Ross

>>58052387
But how does the Glimmet draw so well if he has no hands??? What's his secret?

>>58045668
Adorable.

>>58056356
donde caemos gente

UH, TO ALL THE GRASS TYPE POKEMON OR SEEDERS AS I LIKE TO CALL THEM, GET OFF THIS GUILD BECAUSE IT'S FOR FIRE TYPES ONLY, UNDERSTAND, CAUSE IF YOU DON'T I WILL MAKE SEEDERS SLAVES AGAIN

>>58057854
Last I checked it wasn't called the Fire Continent, burnout.

can someone explain to me how Dodge Scarf and Bounce Band are different?

>>58057854
whos your favorite fire type

I finished this art with profound meaning about Society and I feel like Ronnie is the one that represents us the most

Congratulations on completing 53rd drawingboard!!! We have big character drawings on this one, looks great. I wish I could use some of them as stickers. Super cute art!! Also shout out to the new ricky anon's art in the corner, super kino. for now they had to disappear, but I heard rumors he would be back in a few months!


And now, we are onto our next one, join in!!! https://magma.com/d/H9nDKRaFrV

mobile: https://magma.com/d/iLl5xoB6CZ

>>58058905
btw that file is just under 4mb; its 3.99 mb. Felt so good uploading the original drawingboard without resizing it like that...

>>58054635
Kino!

What's your estimation on the rate of dungeon-related fatalities?

>>58060217
Exaggerated by the Federation to encourage regulation compliance

wanted to sketch a reference for a Gholdengo OC that I've had for a while, in case I want to commission someone to draw him.
he's an explorer that researches mysteriosity. to fund his expeditions, he collects various antiques and sells them at (questionably) high prices. it's not a scam if they don't complain!

>>58060217
Only 10% of humans isekai'd to pmdland survive longer than two days

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>>58061415
The reason why there are inactive anons whose characters dont appear anymore is because they were killed off

>>58061520
never ask beast where the meat comes from

>>58061520
poor sentret

>>58061564
>>58061520
When you join a guild, you sign a paper, stating that in case of your death your body can be dismantled for the guild's needs.

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>>58061765
see this is why we commute to the guild.

why can you even use the wish stone if it just breaks? reached f50 and accidentally used it. I dont even have an escape orb. Now I have to reach f99 and dont get anything for it?

>>58062727
RT was weird with that stuff, like how you can Use the music box but it can't do anything. Say what you will about the remake, but removing those as items and making them permanent was a welcome change.
Also if you wasted the wish stone prior to 50F you can get one there. Otherwise, it's a link cable.

>>58062780
yeah sadly I used it right in f50. Wanted to eat an apple but clicked too fast.
At least now I know you can easily beat wishcave with just shedninja, a bunch of apples, reviver seeds, warp scarf and bounce band.

holy fuck you have to fight Jirachi? I dont remember this. I thought he just instantly joins you. Now I have to go through this normally as well.

>>58054635
Very cute story, really liked Booker giving Heidi a pep-talk.

Now I just wish I understood musical terms so I actually knew how Heidi is supposed to sound.

>>58062945
You could always Kecmaxx, screech+fury swipes melts Jirachi.

>>58063291
dont want to go through the hassle or look up how to manipulate the game to have easy mode.
Maybe I can still do it with shedninja. Thinking about it, I just need to carry lvl seeds and use them in F17, where it starts to become hard and I usually send the rest of the party away to start going through walls.
But it would be hard to still carry enough apples and reviver seeds.
What level does one need to be to realistically beat Jirachi with one mon?

>>58063771
It really depends on your access to debuffs. Jirachi's about level 40 or so, and level has a big effect on damage. Jirachi has Future Sight as well to fix its damage dealt, and I'm not sure if this actually affects Jirachi. I know Ninjask gets Screech at L20, but not Shedinja, so you might be out of luck there.
You could use other pokes to meat shield you from him, but if one of them gets the kill, you can't recruit Jirachi. You should still be able to wish, however.

>>58040343 (OP)
I finished playing the Gates postgame a little while ago. It was short but enjoyable.
Breaking the fourth wall was a cool idea. I wish I was using 3D in the scene where Hydreigon looked right at me and came closer and closer. I also thought it was neat how they gave the player the option to abandon the PMD world, leading to a special game over scenario.
I appreciate how the game wrestles with the concept of PMD heroes having human friends and family who miss them. The solution of letting the hero travel freely between worlds is interesting, but it also feels like a bit of a cop-out to resolve the dilemma.
I also like how they explored the ways in which the hero's departure affects both the hero and partner. As much as it pains me to say it, though, I wish they spent more time focusing on the partner's depression to really drive home how much he's affected by all this.

With that, I'm done with Gates. Might come back to build some of the missing Paradise facilities, but I'm not going to 100% the game. Next, I'll replay Super. I'll start posting updates in the thread when I do.

One last thing: I'll share some of my favorite songs from the game. Gates had a great soundtrack.
>Ragged Mountain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaIuvHZrzTg
>Hazy Pass: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD2GCpZ8oQo
>Holehills: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLOIwv0kv08
>Great Glacier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDZWRcD3ZtM
>Theme of Hope: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCwoX6pgHO4
>Post Town: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg6hpnsLwPs
>Infinite Dungeon 2 (never heard it ingame, but a friend told me about it, and I really like it): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y17Xj73ac8A

>>58063932
protect would be great but I havent found the tm even after 68hours of gameplay.
I was able to evade the fixed damage most of the time just by moving diagonally. With protect it would be safe completely.
Fury Swipes at just lvl 14 is nice. But he only starts to make good damage at lvl 20+ according to damage calc.

Tentacruel is great for wishcave. He gains levels fast and has good attacks from the start. His Supersonic makes boss mons easy. But Shedninja was so easy I would love to make it work.

>>58064104
When I did it a bunch, my go-to team was Kecleon/Charizard/Wooper.
Kecleon's just got great growths and moves outright, and can solo Jirachi no problem.
Zard's got L1 Heat Wave
Wooper's to get there without giving up an item slot. Also, his Damp ability negates both exploding traps, very good.

I usually just gave them stuff to throw at the enemy and spammed linked Frustration+something else on 18-19F's Skarmory. That gets you a shitload of EXP.
The main issue with Shedinja is it sounds like it's GG if you hit the wrong trap, or an enemy throws a rock, or the weather's wrong, or Electrode Sonicboom's you. If you make it with him, definitely tell how it went.

>>58063968
I always interpreted the ending of the postgame with the hero travelling between the human and pokemon worlds as basically being an explanation of the player playing the game and taking a break from it irl, like when you boot up the game and decide to play, that's you revisiting the world, and when you save and quit, that's you going back to the human world.

>>58051355
Where's pinball, trading card game, hell even rumble.

>>58065312
My partner after I disappear for ten years because that game sucked shit

>>58066698
Why is your partner pissing in such an awkward position?

>>58065312
Yeah, that's probably what they were going for. It's a cool idea, and it's really the best possible solution to the problem, but I still feel like it wraps up the issue too neatly. I like happy endings, though, so I can't complain too much.

>>58065372
>Where's trading card game
Busy mocking us

>>58050963
why did he do it bros...

>>58067722
Right I forgot the TCG games turned into a PC game and now a gacha game...

>>58064678
for thrown rocks you have Bounce Band, and it only happens rarely, like one mon per exploration did it so far. You lose 1 reviver seed, then switch to bounce band if you hadnt worn it before, done for that run.
Traps werent a problem at all in any of my shedinja run throughs. You just walk through walls most of the time. Im surprised myself that not once I got an item ruined or something.
Weather wont change in wishcave so its not a problem there as well as electrode.

Really I cant emphasize enough on how easy wishcave is with shed. Just the very last battle, as you cant hide in the walls during boss fight.
If there is one thing Im missing with how you can beat him solo with shed, maybe an item or tm that helps, I need it.

I will probably try Gengar next as he has night shade and shadow ball which could kill Jirachi and he can also go through walls.
Alternatively Mobile Scarf on Tentacruel who has Supersonic.

>>58052160
yes

1/?
Sorry for the absence.

you are not forgiven

>>58069762
2/?
>>58070117
i know

>>58070117
lol anon but you are meant to be cute and cuddly and friendly to everybody here! being a cunt is disallowed

>>58070255
The suspense is killing me

>>58069762
I did miss this old bird

>>58070255
4/?

>>58071603
Drop him from the cliff for his crimes

>>58061135
>hat
Ghost magic

Nice work, anon.

>>58072025
20thcb's robot

ok finally made a homepage for my guys. decided to try and by fancy about it by doin' a strawpage cuz i like how angelfire looks
https://teamcrusader.straw.page/

Happy Mystery Dungeon day. May you wake up as a Pokémon and solve the Mystery of some Dungeons.

>>58073855
mystery dungeon day?

>>58073942
Every year on the second of August one anon from this thread gets isakei'd into PMD. Better luck next year!

>>58073978
>the anon rn

>>58073978
Average lifespan gives me another 50 years, no way there's more than 50 posters here. I like those odds.

>>58054635
Truly love this story. It's very sweet and nicely shows the personalities of both characters and how they'd get along. Heidi is delicate and it makes sense that a tiny bug is gentle enough to teach her something without scaring her off right away.
I really like the descriptions of a bunch of scenes/movements in here. I want to draw a heap of them, but only have this one done for now.
>>58062947
As someone who also doesn't understand musical terms, I just keep it vague because I don't know how to write specifics. I imagine her voice sounds something like a mix between these two singers.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu2X7L7_qAI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?>v=N7aq7xxvm78
(Carly Rae Jepsen)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdLzJa_CJsg
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZVhoG3D7wQ
(Allie X)
That sort of bright, glassy voice with mid to high range.

>>58061135
How many times do you have to fall for the Golden Jew's tricks before it becomes your fault?
>>58069762
>>58071603
Based comic I hope they kill him.
>>58073635
This is almost too fancy for me. Love the fonts and backgrounds and stuff. Gives it a really cozy feel.

>>58075378
Thanks! that means a lot that it's cozy, i wanted to try and be creative with mine. It could've been more fancy if i paid money. (fuck that)

>>58063968
is there a hackrom or something that adds more starter options because really that (combined with my autism) is the big hurdle keeping me from playing gates

>>58076243
I was looking for the same shit about a year ago, the only answer I found was ram-editing the starters and that was too autistic for me to bother with.

For the fun of it, I tried making a list of what music our characters like, or what genre would suit them. I had to guess for a lot of them, so hopefully it's not totally inaccurate.

>>58075374
Aww, that looks great! The high angle is cool and Heidi's face is adorable. I'm very grateful you enjoyed the story enough to draw scenes from it.

>>58054963
>>58059212
>>58062947
Thanks anons.
>I just wish I understood musical terms so I actually knew how Heidi is supposed to sound
For what it's worth, when I was writing, I kept picturing the howling songs from Twilight Princess (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZtTXsQfDX8).

>>58060217
There would definitely be some deaths, but you can take precautions to make it safer, like working in pairs/teams, packing Reviver Seeds and Escape Orbs, and avoiding dungeons that are above your skill level. I don't think deaths would be particularly common (admittedly, I generally don't like edgy stuff in PMD, so it may be my bias talking).

>>58061135
I was never a Gholdengo fan, but this looks neat.

>>58071603
Welcome back! I really like the sunset lighting you used on this one.

>>58075718
haha imagine losing your height when you become a Pokemon

>>58073635
Cool page. Looks pretty professional.
Never heard of strawpage before. Was it hard to use?

>>58076828
incredibly easy to use my man, if you have some familiary w/ paint programs you'll figure it out

>>58077536
hory shitto I know those two

>>58077536
Holy shit, that's amazing

What are y’all’s honest opinions on clovermons being in the guild?

>>58078594
Not particularly enthused; I don't think it's a good idea.

>>58078594
You mean fakemons? Definitely not. Nobody's done it before, and it'd clash with what we have so far.

>>58078594
Are you talking about the fakemon from the Pokémon Clover hack?
I like them, but not in Clover Guild stuff unless it is some non-canon joke shit. There is no need for fakemon when there are already over 1000 Pokémon to choose from.

Fakemons are cool, don't get me wrong. They just tend to clash with regular pokemon. I've got similar feelings with a lot of new gen pokemon, but I can't pick and choose which ones should be banned because I personally dislike a few

>>58078594
Definitely no, sorry anon

>>58078594
I think it's retarded, and clovermons are mostly lazy edgy jokes I really don't want to write around that trash

>>58078594
maybe for an april fools story where arabomb walks into a comically times situation, but introducing them to the whole canon is an absolute no

I'm curious, how much/detailed of accessories do you think they can work on a PMD-style character before it gets weird?

I'm debating making a difficulty hack for sky, but the biggest question I'm asking myself before I jump in on how to ramp up the difficulty is how the fuck am I going to balance around the fact that you can stack the ever living shit out of reviver seeds? Do I just disable them outright? It feels like without them there's the potential to easily create bullshit deaths but the inverse is true if they're present.

>>58079546
You either don't or you jump through asinine hoops like:
>can only carry X seeds on you at a time no idea if this is feasible in skytemple
>you only find reviver seeds from Y so you throttle how many seeds the player finds
>nerf them by making them heal you to 1/4th max health instead of a full heal

>>58079567
A limit to how many seeds the player carries at once could work. Could maybe make a dungeon that appears if you have no seeds in bag/storage that has a set number of Deluxe Boxes at the end with seeds? I think Gates does something similar. Really I think it's mostly the stacking that throws off balance, so either throttling or just leaving it as an option for players to self-impose challenge with is probably the play.

>>58079546
I'd advise focusing entirely on difficulty because then you run the risk of the player coming across unfair shit like Drifblim, Ominous/Silver Wind, and Earth Power users, all of which are far deadlier than anything else in the game. It's way too easy to make the game bullshit to the point of not being fun.

>>58079611
Yeah, I'd agree with that sentiment - the issue just being that I imagine reviver seeds could cheese difficulty - it's hard for things to be difficult if you have 9 or 10 revives up your ass. Adding things that are bullshit to deal with like the stuff you mentioned as a measure to counteract seeds would just make running revivers mandatory and ruin the fun though, like you said, so I would definitely want to have a more fair sense of difficulty. The question then becomes identifying what's difficult but fair in the game vs what's bullshit in the game.

>>58079380
I think it depends mostly on the species. I've seen a lot of kitted out riolus that are either awful or badass

>>58079380
scarf's always fine, some kind of cloak works if they're in a colder area. Some kind of belt pouch makes sense if it's how they hold their bag. But all at once is getting excessive, and anything much more than the stuff listed can get real absurd real fast.
Normal human-style wear like pants is always a bad idea.

>>58080110
That's a penis.

>>58080206
Who's?

>>58080483
Yes.

>>58077536
now draw them kissing

all you dogmon are the same... baka

sunnybros eating good

>>58081165
>>58081244
Having fun at the expense of others' instincts is always welcome.

These sun loving pollen puffing dirt sucking seeders gotta be put in their place. A clay pot on a window sill. They deserve nothing in life except water and miltank shit for fertilizer. The very idea that they could be considered our "equals" is an insult to all pokemon of every type. These fuckers need to be buried, burned, and turned into salads like the fruity ass faggots they are

>>58081790
i'm ice type btw

>>58081858
Ice types have been put down too long by these lazy fucks. Sitting around photosynthesizing all day while we actually contribute to society. Rather than sucking life from the earth to sustain a worthless existence, we earn our right to live in a world that's constantly trying to melt us

>>58082508
>seeing-eye vee
kek

>>58082508
>Kiyo
>Male doctor
Huh?

>>58083101
Doctors, scientists and engineers

>>58083101
A sheath inspector.

>>58082508
wtf i love chillers now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xfig9e-2Ko
this looks promising

>>58082508
does sneasel even know what diplomacy is?

>>58084615
Not a chance in hell.

>>58084615
She uses gunboat diplomacy
Or whatever the Pokemon equivalent would be named

>>58084074
No, it does not

>>58040343 (OP)
does curse work on boss enemies?

>>58085464
At least in Super it does, but you aren't getting Ghost Curse on any story boss in any game.

why is abra so strong? I only make 1dmg for some reason despite being on the same level in blue.

my Gastly friend just hit a Pitfall Trap and is gone. should not have tried this in wishcave.

>>58085480
Unless they're modding in different starters. I don't know if curse works or how well it does, but personally I'm playing Orion with litwick and I might try it if I stuck with it long enough to learn it.

Eevee is built for small time rescues and the easy life

Eevee is built to make me happy

eevee is built for uncreative retards that can't write

Eevees aren't built. They're formed in an egg. This is first grade stuff.

Eevee

>>58087246
I do get really sick of how many PMD comics have Eevee main characters. There's just so many, I really wish I could see some different pokemon take their place

>>58088080
Got it, I will start a comic starring a Riolu instead!

>>58089574
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD MOLTRESOR

>>58089574
Locked away for eternity.

>>58089574
Is eating a warp seed the only way out?

I need more PMD Chespin in my life

>>58089574
>TRAPPED and BETRAYED

>>58090479
Chespin is a shitmon! We actually need more PMD Froakie and Fennekin.

>>58090829
Your bad opinion aside, I honestly don't see much Froakie for pmd stuff.

>>58088985
Imagine having to do this on every step every time you take the stairs
It must suck having no proper legs

>>58084074
Not as bad as I was expecting it to be, but the characters and dialogue didn't really grab me

>>58084074
>eeveelutions in thumbnail

>>58083101
Daily dose enforcer

>>58094121
this is some transformation fetish shit, isn’t it? they both look surprised and gabite’s wearing some of cynthia’s clothes

>>58094190
Bro I've got some bad news about the entire spinoff series this thread is dedicated to.

>>58093388
dubdubs....


How different do you think cultures within PMD world are compared to each other? Do you think it's all one ubiquitous society or do you think each continent has its own traditions and values?

>>58094201
I think it's more interesting if there's multiple unique cultures per continent. Admittedly, that's also harder to write, but stories don't necessarily have to be globe-trotting.

>>58094201
We must spread the culture of comfy to every backwater shithole on the planet.

>>58094201
I came up with some ideas for continental religions about a million years ago. I prefer individual places to have some kind of identity.

we should do that one stat chart for the clover guild members again but instead of using lame and gay stats like tongue and agility we use cool and mature ones like inland empire and electrochemistry

>>58095164
I'd be interested in making another stat chart using new stats
Not stats like that, though

I beat this little shit 6 times today and despite 25.9% chance he doesnt want to be my friend. Whats his problem? Is there something that the wiki doesnt tell me?

>>58095597
He won't join you cause you smell bad. Take a bath.

>>58095597
Suicune's just an enormous fucking faggot that refuses to join is all.
t. took me like 12 tries at max odds when i went for 100%

>>58095158
What the fuck is that mudkip

>>58095597
It's because you rejected his submissions to the Clover Guild

>>58088536
I'm okay with this

>>58096992
kek

>>58094121
>>58094190
Fetish shit aside, the idea of a Pokémon trainer being sent to PMD sounds like a fun one. Especially if he is sent along with his Pokémon team and they are finally able to tell him everything they always wanted to, like how they always liked him. Or something more wholesome like how they always hated the food he served them and want payback for how they were forced to breed with a Ditto for shinies

>>58098708
>Fetish shit aside
>goes on about his "wholesome" fetish
what did he mean by this

Hemipenes.

Thread is dead, time to post your favorite PMD crackships

>>58100402
Loudred/Spinda from sky.

>>58100402
me and your partner

>Make sure to bank your money!
>Banks money
>Get a cool mon to join
>No camp
>Not enough money to buy one with wigglytuff orb
thanks game

>>58100857
>Thanks for the money!

Thread is so dead no one will know I lewd all your characters

>>58101872
Share it with the class. I doubt you lewd all of them

>>58100402
>>58101872
Doesn't feel any more dead than usual

>>58100402
Chespin x Kiyo

>>58101872
It will become active again when new PMD is announced next month

>>58102258
That is a really weird combination. Is it just because he's an ice type or do you have an actual reason?

>>58101872
Joke's on you. I lewd my own characters AND have drawn their genitals.

>>58103768
Why didn't the protags just eat apples from their bag?

>>58103768
why does phanpy, the strongest starter, not simply eat chatot?

>>58102488
Trust the plan

>>58102258
kiyo x anyone is a shitpost at this point
kiyo x linoone not included

>>58104526
Kiyo x Phanpy truthers will be vindicated in the end

>>58101872
Post Togetic lewds. You won't.

>>58104526
Kiyo x Jung still has potential, especially if Kiyo were to evolve

>>58104309
Why do the protags pretend to be on deaths door after ever boss fight despite (you) obliterating the boss every time?

>>58105837
So the bosses don't feel bad about themselves.

>>58104526
>kiyo x linoone
Why? what's the lore on this?

Linoone has Debby already
and Kiyo has Cassie

>>58106093
linoone and debby are just friends that ocassionally smooch each other

>>58104526
We went over this already. Kiyo and Adrian is out
and kiyo x kris is in

>>58106456
>ywn have a fluffy huggable partner

>>58104309
For how much people bitch about the 90% tax, I always found this more annoying as a kid. I have plenty of apples in my bag and in storage but the hero and partner just choose to go hungry

>>58107321
Dungeon food is empty calories and can’t satiate you like real grown food does
Source: my ass

>>58106108
Who in Clover actually porks then.

>>58107448
Enny

>>58108124
What is the context for this?

Which PMD has the best commercials?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6igklX3KCA

>>58109498
It's so over for Delibird Deliveries how can they even compete with this level of funding. They have balloons now

>>58109906
I don't know if the anime specials count, but I really liked the Gates trailers, even though they were short. Female Pikachu is sadly not canon

>>58110775
I still don’t get why they put a female Pikachu in the ad but then gender locked the starters to be male
Wonder if there was a miscommunication or they removed female starters later in development

>>58109531
shonen edgekino
https://rentry.org/r4m9y

Interesting how they specifically made unique animation for the English one of rescue team, English commercial for Explorers fucking SUCKS though, Sky's is good even if it spoils the entire game for some reason.

>>58111783
what’s project sparkle?

>>58110974
it's an option in the japanese release and through hacking you can restore the option (it doesn't change the dialogue and is purely noticeable solely on pikachu, not even raichu keeps it)
purely a miscommunication on the english end because you can hack the option and while it's poorly phrased it still functions to do the bare minimum in the games

>>58102488
i had the darkness version of this book, i wonder if i'd be able to find it. i specifically remember the one who did the interview in that book chose jumpluff for Q5 for some reason

>>58112250
That's lame
I wish the other releases kept it

>>58040343 (OP)
>Pokemon Mystery Dungeon ROMs and Emulators Catalog
Is there an alive link?

>>58111985
It's just a marketing label the artist slapped into some PMD stickers he was selling.

>>58112516
No, the guy who hosted it hasn't put it back up. No clue why but you'll have to find stuff yourself now

>>58113893
Hate that the Torchic design is kinda growing on me.

In rescue team lvl1 dungeons I have seen some people try to train up and fight the way up, and some go the route of running away from everything. What determines the viability of either strategies? And how do these strats differ or relate between Rescue Team DS and DX?

>>58114046
Nigga how? It's awful

>>58114530
The feather tufts on the head look cool. Yellow’s not a massive, ugly contrast to Torchic’s regular color. No defense for the legs though, those look awful.

>>58114605
Nah I'm with you. I always complain about OCs that have lazy qualities in an attempt to make them unique, and I also complain about OCs that are so unique that they just aren't the same thing anymore. This one I can't complain about either.

>>58113893
more like
>seeder
>burner

>>58113061
poor sparker over here is just skin and bones

>>58115065
Toaster

New thread:
>>58115291
>>58115291
>>58115291