Thread 58066998

Question for experienced time-wasters and shiny enthusiasts: what is the difference between save states and resetting as far as shiny hunting is concerned?

I am looking at playing Inclement Emerald for a bit and, according to the feature list, it has improved odds of shiny appearance to 1/1024. Those are a lot better than the average and so I was considering attempting a shiny-only dex, but I want to know how I should go about it before I waste 5 hours like a retard hunting for a starter.

Also, shiny thread general I guess. Post about whatever you most recently caught or are currently hunting.

>>58066998 (OP)
This isn't a screenshot of a real Pokémon game so who gives a shit, just cheat them in at that point

I'm hunting for Munchlax in gen 4. Luckily one of my Munchlax trees is on Route 205 North, so I don't have to fuck around too much, and there's a cluster of encounter table 0 Pokemon on an easily-reachable frame like a minute away, so I think I got it. Won't know for 6 hours though.

On this same note I didn't know honey can be used in grass or caves as a consumable use of Sweet Scent. That's very very handy.

>>58066998 (OP)
>save states
Will always give you the exact same thing
>resetting
Resets the seed so you get something different unless you're playing Emerald or a Ruby/Sapphire with a dead battery

>>58067099
>unless you're playing Emerald
Does that also count towards rom hacks utilizing Emerald as a base?

Out of curiosity, why doesn't resetting work for Emerald?

>>58067126
Emerald always starts with the seed 00000000 upon boot, so frames always advance predictably, and thus shiny frames can be calculated and timed to hit. Ruby and Sapphire will randomize the starting seed on boot, AND reroll the seed every minute as well. FireRed and LeafGreen do this too. However, if Ruby and Sapphire have a dead battery they'll always start on the seed 000005A0 instead and won't reroll it, allowing frames to be predicted again.

So if you're looking to RNG manipulate play Emerald or RS with a dead battery, but if you want to soft reset you'll need true randomization, so play FRLG or RS with a live battery.

>>58067126
Don't know about rom hacks but it's probably the same. I don't know if it's something that can easily be fixed.
GameFreak fucked up Emerald's seeding so every time the game loads it always uses the same one. So lets say you accept your starter exactly 5 seconds into loading and get a female Torchic with 20 HP IVs, if you reset again and hit accept 5 seconds in then you'll hit that same Torchic again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nU2SV4hyng
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MKiJN3yasc
One of these probably has a more in depth explanation.

>>58066998 (OP)
Today a horde of Applin was in my Violet and I decided to hunt one. When I arrived at the location a shiny white Squawkabilly was there waiting for me. So I got two shinies today, which was pretty cool.

>Have the Member Card
>Try to enter the Canaclave Inn to hunt Darkrai
>Door won't open
>"Oh god did I fuck up receiving the wonder card?"
>Read reports that you have to complete the Cresselia event first before you can enter the inn, but they're from BDSP
>Fuck it
>Hit the target seed on Cresselia and advance to the target frame
>Send it roaming
>Complete the event, try to enter the inn to see if I even can
>I can, get kidnapped straight to Newmoon Island
>Can't leave to go hunt Cresselia
Well that's good to know, but also fucking god damn it.

>>58067569
>Nabbed Cresselia and Darkrai
>Then got Dialga and Palkia
>Working on Regigigas
>Thought I only had Munchlax, Giratina, and Manaphy after this
>Remember the legendary birds can still roam
>Want different natures on each of them so I gotta start shooting them down and running the Elite Four again to respawn the ones that have the wrong natures
Welp. Hopefully Munchlax works out, about two hours left before I can see if it worked.

>>58068172
>Got Munchlax to spawn
>Pokefinder doesn't have a setting for honey trees
Is it Stationary or Wild? I can't tell. At least I have time to fuck around with it.
Also the legendary birds knowing both Safeguard AND Roost with Pressure is so unbelievably fucking annoying.

>>58067126
>>58067150
>I don't know if it's something that can easily be fixed
it is (pic related) and Inclement emerald seems to have the fix enabled.

>>58068842
Funny how something as small as that can completely change the way a game is played.

>>58068787
It was Wild, encounter slot 0.
Now back to wrestling Moltres into an orb.

GET IN THE BALL YOU STUPID FUCKING TURKEY

>A good sight bigger
>A serious Big'un
>A serious Big'un
>A serious Big'un
>A good sight bigger
>A serious Big'un
>A good sight bigger
>Now THIS is a BIG Pokemon
>Uncommon mark

I just want this part of my life to be over.

>>58067149
>>58067150
So that's nasty. Emerald looks like the worst game to hunt in. It also makes me appreciate how lucky I was to have had a real shiny encounter with an Electrike.
>>58068842
Ok, so I saw your post and decided I'd take a gamble and do SRs for a starter. Didn't even take 15 minutes and I acquired pic related. I kept rolling between Treecko and Torchic. I think the giveaway that Emerald (as a base) has been fixed by a rom hack is if you are rolling random genders + natures. I tested this by DLing Black Pearl and, short of starting an entirely new game, the starters I was able to choose from never changed genders and eventually cycled through all of the same several natures.
Anyway, since finding Gex I've also found a Blitzle on R102. So SRing in Inclement Emerald does seem to work. Those 1/1024 odds are legit.
>>58067035
It's the spirit of the thing, my friend. I don't enjoy PVP and treat these games like a SP experience, and so hunting in hacks is purely for self-satisfaction.

>>58072734
nice one, ive always wanted to try shiny hunting for a cool fakemon or so. Probably will try it in Vega when I grab a real cartridge.

>>58067150
Wouldn't that make it easy, but time consuming, to rng manip if you always know the seed you're in?

>>58072734
>Emerald looks like the worst game to hunt in.
or the best if you're good at manip

>>58072765
Yes, and there's a pretty large scene around hunting in Emerald because of it. The chief thing is finding ways to speed up frame advancement to reach seeds that are thousands, if not millions of frames ahead of the starting frame, to find perfect shiny spreads and the like. You'll also need to know your SID unless you RNG for a specific TID/SID combo at the start of the game, but Emerald also has the Pomeg glitch and glitzer popping, which can be used to set up arbitrary code executions via the PC box names. One code you can execute is to write a Pokemon's SID to its TID field, letting you find out your SID after the game's over and then hunt from there. You can also do things like respawn Professor Birch's bag to hunt for starters without needing to go through the beginning of the game, respawn the Latis, and other stuff.

Emerald is awful for soft resetting, but an RNG manipulator's paradise.

>>58073535
Plus if you just happen to find a shiny while playing you can reverse engineer it to find your SID and with battle frontier battle recording you can save a spot ahead in the RNG to jump to

>>58073547
Yep. Though the holy grail of RNG is easily Colosseum, the things you have to do in that game for the coveted shiny Shadow Pokemon is absurd.

>>58072734
>Emerald looks like the worst game to hunt in.
If you want to hunt in Hoenn, 99% of the time you’ll want to be in R/S (assuming the battery hasn’t run dry).
Fishing you might still want to use Emerald so you can use Sticky Hold/Suction Cups, plus any targets exclusive to Emerald, but there’s not much reason otherwise.
>>58074042
Colosseum’s one of the holy grails for just regular hunting too, those who hunt shadow pokemon must have unending patience

>>58074042
>>58074490
It's not hard to shiny hunt in Colosseum, you just have to have high IQ and be a high-functioning autist to do it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9IhBTcTw9w&ab_channel=LettuceLeaf

5th one today, stopping here. Good pace. 1/1024 isn't shabby at all. I did speed up the emulator; after Blitzle I went for about 4000 encounters without seeing a thing. So that's Treecko, Blitzle, Surskit, Bidoof (which was statistically likely to happen since I have several wants on R102 and that's the most common mon), and Gothita.
>>58072764
I've never played a fakemon game before, but those look really good. I like those lizards on the right, 3rd from the top. Those look great. I'll add Vega to my list of things to try this year.
>>58072771
>>58073535
>>58073547
>>58074042
>>58074490
To be honest, I don't think I'm invested enough in shiny hunting to learn how to manipulate the game data to have reflex-specific odds. I watched about 20 minutes of >>58074715's video, skimming through most of it so just the beginning and end, and some commenter-highlighted bits, and that's just ridiculous.
He did save himself about a lifetime's worth of luck through manipulation, but his entire hunt took over a year. That method doesn't really seem fun to me, but if you are looking for a very specific Pokemon, with certain ribbons or met locations, or with a particular trainer ID, then I guess I can understand it if you're doing that for just 1 mon, or maybe even for a team of your absolute favorites.
I guess I like the idea of "chance" encounters over controlled variables, but to each his own.

>>58067214
SV shinies that are available in the wild are basically worthless they're so easy to get.

general question: why do you collect shinies in the first place? for trade? aesthetic? status?

>>58074843
The aesthetics and personal collection.
When you struggle for one then you don't tend to let them go ever.

>>58074715
I've done some hunting in Colosseum before myself, nabbed shiny Entei, Suicune, and Sneasel. I kinda burned out trying to nab Misdreavus because Pyrite Town is so noisy, but if there's a better method with Copilot I'm down to learn the new ways. I still want Misdreavus, Raikou, and Absol, so I can use Sneasel, Misdreavus, and Absol as ribbonmasters.

>>58074800
I wouldn't take that Colosseum hunt as an average manipulator's experience (unless you're in Colosseum). Colo is a holy grail specifically because of the amount of esoteric shit you have to do, and even then some of them are really easy, while others are waking nightmares. >>58070280 this is the result of a layered manipulation in Platinum, I calculated which four honey trees could spawn Munchlax, manipulated the encounter so Munchlax would spawn, then after verifying I succeeded manipulated the Munchlax so it would be shiny, with high IVs (I can't really get perfects without waiting an absurdly long time). The only two programs you need are Pokefinder and Eon Timer, and you'll gradually calibrate Eon Timer to reach the frame you're after.

I'm now hunting Giratina, which is pretty straightforward and only tough because most of Giratina's moves have low PP, so it tends to kill itself with Struggle while I'm still throwing balls.

>>58066998 (OP)
Got a horde of Popplio yesterday in violet fuck yeah blonde seal wife.

>Snag Giratina finally
>Oak says I've completed the National Pokedex
Not yet I haven't, you senile old man. I still have two more Pokemon to go.

Got up early and bricked with my first 3 encounters: Seedot, Bidoof, and another Surskit. I went to grab some berries and went 2/2 on encountering Munchlax, which I captured both of then turned loose for their Leftovers, which will be useful when I actually decide to play the game.
Ended up catching a Lotad, so that leaves Ralts and Tympole for R102, minus the surf, honey, and fishing encounters.
I just stumbled upon another Surskit too, after around 2300 encounters. I haven't figured out what I want to do with excess shinies. I've contemplated having a full living dex of all stages of evos, but that's definitely going to be the last thing I do. Besides, this is my 3rd Surskit. Now I'm just collecting spares at this point.
>>58074928
How frustrating is it to have the shiny encounter, and proceed to lose it because it KO'd itself? I've never had one of those, but if I had it on a legitimate cartridge I think I'd feel ill afterwards. I know you're SRing it, but I imagine it's still aggravating to try and be frame-perfect, go through all the hassle, and get no reward for your troubles.

>>58076403
>How frustrating is it to have the shiny encounter, and proceed to lose it because it KO'd itself?
More amusing than frustrating, actually. The actual RNG process took like ten minutes to calibrate Eon Timer, and then 4 minutes for every attempt after.
>Set DS date/time to the designated time, confirm at the same time as I start Eon Timer
>Power DS off and on again
>On the 6th beep in Eon Timer's countdown press A to start the game
>Get to the file select screen and wait for the next countdown to finish (3 minutes)
>On the 6th beep in the countdown timer start the game
>Use the coin flip Poketch app to verify the seed I'm on (coin flips are affected by the RNG)
>If I didn't hit my target power the DS off and do it again
>If I hit it, open my party and cycle through viewing the summaries of the two Chatots I have in my party (a recorded Chatter will change the pitch according to the RNG and advance 1 frame for every summary view) 76 times to hit the target frame
>Close the party screen and initiate the battle
>Battle shiny Giratina like normal and throw the balls I want at it until I catch it
It's a larger pain in the ass in areas where NPCs move, because each movement/rotation advances a frame, even if they're offscreen. Though it would be genuinely very frustrating if you're doing this via soft resetting instead.

Who else mark gang here?

>Wanted to hatch Manaphy on my current save so it can have the same TID/SID as most of my other Sinnoh mons
>But apparently the XOR process of checking the difference between TID and SID and the PID ensures that on a Cute Charm glitch profile Manaphy's IVs must be 0 in HP, ATK, and <10 in DEF, or else it can't hatch shiny
Well fuck. Guess I'm using the other two after all.

So far, 18 shinies. I'm still on R102.
Surskit, Gothita, and Tympole are 10% encounter rates. Funnily enough, so is Ralts.
Even in an Emerald hack, it appears that Ralts is still a hard shiny to track down. It's the last of the basic Pokemon grass encounters I have for the route too.
Bidoof, Lotad, and Seedot are 20%.
The Blitzle was a surprise shiny on R103, which I had acquired within my first 10 minutes of playing after nabbing Treecko just to see what was on R103.
Overall, I'm way over odds for a Ralts encounter. I still have some fishing to do too, as there are apparently Goldeen and Corphish I can reel in with the old rod. There's also honey encounters for Audino, as well as the 2nd stage evolutionary counterparts of 3 of the Pokemon I've already caught. I can't surf and have no better rod so the rest of the encounters are n/a at this time.
I did go back to R101 to take a break from 102 and went 3000+ encounters without seeing anything, which encouraged me to go back to 102 to try and finish the grass encounters, and I went roughly 700 more encounters before finding my 2nd Gothita.

At this rate, I am considering a full dex containing all evolution stages. God knows I'm going to have most of them.

>>58074843
I enjoy the minigames associated with collecting them. Most of the time, at least.

>RNG a new save with a TID/SID combo that can turn the specific PID I'm looking for shiny
>Deliver the Manaphy egg to Platinum
>Practice in Mt. Coronet for the right timing, know from experience that I need to stop one frame before the target
>Talking to the delivery guy in the Pokemart also takes a frame, so figure I need to stop 2 frames before
>Head back to the Pokemart and do the RNG
>Get the right seed, match the Chatot cries, progress down to 2 before
>Receive the egg and trade it to my copy of Pearl
>Hatch it
>It's not shiny
>Check the nature and characteristic
>It was one fucking frame before the shiny frame
What I should've done was hatch it immediately in Platinum to verify I had the right frame stop and then did it again. Fucking god damn it fuck.

If I just stuck a rom of Guardian Signs or Shadows of Almia on my R4 and used those to get the Ranger Net mission for transfer I'd just feel dirty, might as well have genned it at that point. I'll look for a physical copy of one of those two at retro game stores tomorrow, I hear they're fun games as they are.

I guess if I really wanted to I could just trade the egg back, reset the save for a different TID/SID combo that matches the PID and hatch it in the new save to salvage the shiny, but it won't be perfect anymore. Should I just say fuck it and do that, even if it doesn't have perfect stats and a Naughty nature?

>>58072771
if you're going to use a bunch of third party tools to find out when to press the button why not just use a hex editor and tick the shiny box? it's the same fucking thing

>>58078915
Because that's not playing the game. RNG is no different than playing the Poke Radar minigame; both involve actually playing the game to work for your reward.

>>58078919
>RNG is no different than playing the Poke Radar minigame
except the poke rdar is fully contained within the game. you need third party tools to find your secret ID, which you need to find the possible shiny frames, and you realistically need a third party timer of some sort to know when to press the button. you're already using third party tools to access and utilize information not available to you in the game to circumvent the spirit of the mechanics

>>58078924
>except the poke rdar is fully contained within the game.
No, you're not told how the Poke Radar actually works to chain for a shiny. That's all user documentation, and there's lots of discourse on how it actually works in gen 4 because Gamefreak left it unclear.

>you're already using third party tools to access and utilize information not available to you in the game to circumvent the spirit of the mechanics
This is no different from saying any information available on a wiki is circumventing the spirit of the mechanics. The game doesn't tell you move lists, encounter rates, found locations, evolution requirements, or anything like that. These games are made to share discovered information around, they always have been.

>>58078895
you can't just trade the egg back to platinum then re-RNG your pearl TID/SID?

>>58078934
That's what I'm doing right now. I was trying for a 31/7/31/31/31/31 Timid spread, but I got the frame above it, 21/10/26/7/31/31 Naughty. I doubt I'll ever actually use it in battle, so shiny's good enough for me.

>>58078941
ah i see
havent rng’d a manaphy yet, but ill probably back up and save scum the ranger save in case i fuck it up too

something similar can happen with the shitty gyro eshop shovelware compatible with gen 5 i cant recall the name of

>>58078943
Pokemon Dream Radar, I have that on my 3DS too. Planning on using that after I beat BW2.

>hacknigs again pretend deliberately manipulating shinies is "hunting"
Just inject kids. It's the same thing but extra steps to pretend it's not just clicking the "make shiny" box.

>>58078948
Why even play the game at that point? Injecting is so unbelievably boring and unsatisfying.

>>58078948
i do both but rng abusing is fun

>>58078895
There, Manaphy getto.
Now for Phione.

>tfw favourite Pokemon has a shiny I don’t like
Honestly, kinda blessed.
Centiskorch is tha best.

>>58074843
The best part about finding shinies is when you get them when you least expect it.

>>58074810
>worthless
Huh? It's a shiny pokemon. Their worth is in them being cool.

>>58074843
Because I like them. I'm a collector. What part of Gotta Catch em All is hard to understand? Hell, I've got several different dupes that I keep in my collection because they have different First Met locations or different pokeballs. Plus it's fun to trade. Even if I 100% have some mons that were probably hacked I still think they are neat little guys.

>>58079745
I can't tell those apart. I know I've flown over several of them and have made peace with the fact I won't get one.

>>58079906
I actually found two, that one and another one as a Deerling while using Autobattle. Makes me wish I'd not evolved the Deerling so I could have both but that was months ago anyway.

>>58076403
>How frustrating is it to have the shiny encounter, and proceed to lose it because it KO'd itself?
Similar, but in Lets Go due to the Go mechanics ever single wild encounter has the chance to run away. This makes them tense if the mon is a high level mon as even with a berry boosted great ball perfect throw the catch rate is not great. I try to flex by catching them in Premier Balls too. On top of having shinies spawn on the overworld just as I enter a loading zone, or despawning just as then enter my line of sight, I have failed to catch a flying wild shiny Dragonite. I was screaming at that fat fuck to get in the ball. Funny in retrospect.

>>58079922
That's why I genuinely don't understand hunting shinies in Let's Go unless they're super low level on early routes, or you've caught so many of that specific mon that the catch circle is green even with a Poke Ball. Just feels like setting yourself up for failure.

>>58076500
I love ribbons, but marks just feel like a kick in the balls. Especially with how they are tied to titles so there are a ton of different titles that your mons will never get to have. Wish they could be earned on already caught pokemon. That would be kino.

>>58079930
marks legit feel like someone saw that video of the dude getting every possible ribbon on a scizor and decided to fuck him over specifically

>>58079929
The failure risk sweetens the victory. I assume its the same reason Safari Week exists. Lets Go pretty much turns the whole game into the Safari Zone.

>>58079946
Yeah, I kind of want to do the same thing he did but I don't have the money to go and buy all the old systems. I'd probably do it with Meganium, not sure what other pokemon from the orre games are faves.

Phione. National dex complete.

>>58079036
how the fuck did you find an unused copy of Ranger

>>58080417
Absolute madman.

>>58080440
nta but you can wipe the existing saves from Ranger carts using homebrew

>>58080417
nice, did you RNG the IVs too? can be a pain in the ass with the NPCs walking around

>>58080440
You know you can just complete ranger on a Flash Cart or modded DSi/3DS, right? Hell, you could also just inject a save that already has the Manaphy mission cleared (and you can do this with Shadows of Almia to get the Aura Sphere Riolu/Darkrai and Guardian Signs to get the Shaymin, Deoxys and Regigigas too) if you don't wanna have to play through it.

>>58067150
you can get shiny legendaries via run away encounters in Emerald (not Ruby/Sapphire)

>>58080464
Nah. Phione's a shitmon of a mythical, so I never cared much for its stats, just that it was shiny. I tried to RNG Manaphy though, fucked up cause I got impatient and skipped a crucial check. Oh well.

>>58080440
I actually bought this copy of Ranger off ebay 14 years ago, beat Ranger then and unlocked the Manaphy egg, then sat on it cause the means to get shiny Manaphy back then was to SR it and trade the egg if it didn't work. I finally transferred it yesterday after collecting everything else, but I know more now so if I ever get a copy of Shadows of Almia or Guardian Signs I can do it again and get a perfect one this time.

My national dex includes Pokemon from my XD and Colo saves, my original Sapphire save, my LeafGreen save, my Emerald save, mons from both my Diamond and Pearl copies, and finally Platinum. I don't need HGSS to continue the dex, but Red holds a ribbon I'm gonna want later so I still gotta go through it.

>>58080464
>>58080594
Oh, I should mention that I technically did, but only in practice of learning what to do. A lot of guides nowadays use RNG Reporter or old versions of Pokefinder, and the new versions of Pokefinder have changed UI and functionality, with little documentation and an ambiguous means to translate the old guides to the newer format. I had to figure out what "Held Advance" and "Pickup Advance" are, and how to use them.

Held Advances are advances made after depositing your two Pokemon in the daycare, before moving. This requires you to flip coins, and advances the PID of the subsequent egg, including shininess. Pickup Advances are advances made when actually getting your egg from the day care man, this is the one that rerolls the IVs. So if the HA and PA are the same number, that just means you need to advance that amount of frames to set the PID, then later hit the same seed and advance the same amount of frames to set the IVs. Good to know for the future!

>>58080635
Jesus, how do you guys have the patience for this stuff? I'd lose my fucking mind. I am not built for depth analysis, I just want critters than look cool.

>>58080662
Go set up a cute charm save file in a Gen IV game if you want easy shinies. It's a bit of a pain to actually set it up, but once you do that, every wild Pokemon with a 50/50 gender ratio in the game is going to be easily available to you as a shiny.

>>58080662
I really like the process. It's esoteric, and no other franchise in the world has the same level of interconnectivity as Pokemon does, or availability to do RNG manipulation, with the same level of payoff.

One time a decade ago I found Pokeblock recipes for perfect Contest stats in gen 3, but they required both the e-Reader berries and liechi berries. I got an e-Reader and the battle-e card packs that have the berry cards, but the only place you could get liechi berries in gen 3 is Mirage Island, which appears even more rarely than full-odds shinies. I spent three months, 2 hours a day, checking all 420 Pokemon I filled my boxes with to try and find one that had a matching PID to spawn Mirage Island, to no luck. I gave up.
Fast forward to about two years ago when I was finishing my living national dex in Emerald I bought a second copy of Emerald from a vending machine at a nearby mall; a clear and obvious fake, but a $10 GBA game I could use an R4 to write anything to was incredibly useful, so I overwrote the Toys-R-Us shiny Zigzagoon distribution to it, sending it to my actual copy of Emerald via Mystery Gift. That distribution was meant to fix the berry glitch in Ruby and Sapphire, and the Zigzagoon holds a liechi berry to sweeten the deal. Technology is incredible.

There's even a prize at the end of this very very very long journey, awaiting at Home, the Pokeball-colored Magearna. Though I don't think there's any way to get the mystery gifts of gen 6 and 7 yet. I have Diancie and Hoopa, but no Volcanion, Marshadow, Magearna, or Zeraora. Maybe someday.

>>58080706
>filename
The games in there were probably fake anyway considering the color of the Crystal version carts and the fact that there's a Green version cart in there at all. Wild that they'd even put that shit in there though, considering flashable reproduction boards cost more than $10, and the shells cost a few bucks themselves as well.

>>58080710
Oh yeah they were all clearly fake. There were like 6 of these vending machines at the mall I was at, but they're all gone now, I should've bought a Green copy when I had the chance, just to see what was on it.

>>58080724
Probably just the standard US Blue encounter tables with Red/Green's sprites (and Cerulean cave layout). The real interesting ones would be GSC, because there are reproduction boards now that have SRAM on them that still use a battery for the RTC, but they're probably not those.

>>58080734
I've seen videos of people soldering tabbed batteries into the repro boards that DON'T have batteries, changing some of the circuit paths to make the day/night cycle actually function again. Crazy that that actually works.

>>58080752
Yeah, but the repros I'm talking about are arguably better than the real thing. They have SRAM for the save, and instead of having a place to tab in a battery, they have a slot so you can easily put in a normal non-tabbed battery.

Getting three of them (one for each Gen II game) is on my to do list, but I always forget about it when I'm not thinking about it specifically.

>>58080759
Really? That's interesting, I wouldn't expect that level of complexity for a cheap Pokemon reproduction cart.

>>58066998 (OP)
Speaking of shiny hunting does anyone also have the specific type of balltism where you need every shiny in a normal Pokeball? I think it started for me by soft resetting for a shiny starter and then wanting my other shinies to not match when healing at a Pokemon Center. The only ones I catch in non-normal Pokeball are legendaries who I catch with a luxury ball

>>58080797
Different balltism for me. Net Balls are my signature ball. Always catch shinies in them unless I already have one in a netball. Carry a Soak user at all times incase I run into a shiny

My first reset hunt in gen 7 took no time at all. Does SuMo have any other interesting hunts?

>>58080706
I woulda just glitzerpopped in those berries in but I take it you're not a man for glitches even though you did that Zigzagoon thing

>>58081001
No, glitches are fine by me too. I used the pomeg glitch and glitzer popping in Emerald to get a bad DOTS egg for box code ACE usage. Used that to reach Navel Rock, Faraway Island, Birth Island, respawn the Latis, and swap Latis so I could RNG both on Southern Island. I try to keep things as legit as possible, but I'll make concessions if necessary.

>>58080958
Are the ultra beasts shiny locked?

>>58081037
In Ultra they aren't.

>>58081050
Then maybe Minior? I believe all the shinies for Minior are obscured by the shell, so you'll need to crack it to see what you get.

>>58080820
Wait the Net Ball works better if you use Soak on a Pokemon? Huh, neat >>58080706
I’m on the same journey of getting that Pokeball Magearna while working on a Ribbon Master. Despite my feelings on mdoern Pokemon there really isn’t any other series out there where I can take a creature from my GBA and take it with me all the way up to a modern console with a collection of awards it’s earned in all the games

>>58080958
>>58081037
>>58081050
>>58081061

SuMo really are ass for shiny hunts, huh?

>>58081150
Well, you have SOS chaining for anything you can find in the wild, so there's that. But the ultra beasts being shiny locked until USUM is lame.

>>58081198
SuMo sos hunting is also bugged and resets the chain after 255 something while in USUM it works normally.

>>58081112
Yeah, net ball boosts catch rate of water and bug type pokemon. So if you use Soak, any pokemon becomes water type. Very useful for my particular balltism (I just like the blue and black color)

Was surprisingly a lot simpler than I thought it'd be, even without the ability to advance.

>>58080594
>>58080635
yeah, i did some eggs in Platinum a few months ago and had to download an older version of pokefinder

i don't recall exactly why, but it was something like the new version expects you to rng the PID and IVs at the same time like you're on an emulator which is retarded.

>>58079745
I wish SV kept the square shiny effects from SwSh. Don't know why they were removed.

>Shiny Gholdengo
Why

what are some good mons to hunt in swsh?

>>58084207
anything you can isolate with encounter level 3 sandwiches that isn't a spot the differences puzzle like charcadet and garchomp

>>58081774
>ID of 00000
Okay but now it looks fake as hell

>>58084207
Eeveelutions strong spawn Lake of Outrage

>>58084232
I was looking through the list of TIDs/SIDs that Pokefinder provided to me that would get me 31/31/31/x/31/31 Adamant spreads and 0/737 showed up, which stuck out to me. So I RNG'd for that.

>>58084207
Personally, I'm hunting the Swords of Justice and the Regis no reseting. I have to knock out them out and respawn them for each check.

>>58080958
I just discovered the gift Porygon can be hunted so that’s my next target.

I just realized most of the Pokemon I'm hunting for this time are gift Pokemon
My poor balltism; regular Pokeballs everywhere

Ok, so I have not been keeping a great count of encounters thus far, but I'd like to say that I should be somewhere around 33-36k in total at this point in time. I'm definitely not lower, and wouldn't be surprised if it were actually somewhat higher.
I remain on R102.
Ralts has proven to be a very rare 10%er. I'm beginning to feel like I'm trying for the real thing, as it's surprising I've not encountered a single one yet. On the other hand, I have precisely 1 Tympole, which is a fellow 10%er. That Tympole makes me feel slightly less bad about finding Ralts. Gothita and Surskit have been eating up all my low-encounter-rate shiny encounters.
I went back to back on Bidoofs and Lotads. I will be releasing most of these once I acquire a Ralts. Some of the ones I've acquired have much better IVs than the others. You are guaranteed 3 perfect IVs in Inclement Emerald anyway, but some of them have 4 and 2 high ones as well.

Those 1/1024 odds are definitely playing to their lengths.

>>58084659
What's the point in doing this in a romhack?

>>58084659
>Ralts has proven to be a very rare 10%er.
I'm reminded of one anon here like two years ago who made daily threads about hunting for a shiny female Ralts in his Emerald playthrough so he could use that as his starter instead. All at full odds soft resetting. He caught dozens of shiny Pokemon, but no Ralts, and eventually just stopped posting. I guess he gave up?

>finally go to get the Loyal Three in Scarlet because bored
>head to get Fezandipiti
>Shiny Geodude just chilling on the mountain
neato

In FRLG will the preview images of the starters show if they're shiny or do you have to actually choose them before you can determine?

>>58084819
No. The Pokemon isn't generated until you choose it.

>>58080958
>starters
>island scan
>SOS
>pelago (you're not a coward, are you?)

>>58084822
Cool, thank you

>>58084824
ignore the filename, pic related are the island scan pokemon not pokepelago

>>58084677
What's the point in playing a video game at all?

>>58084852
The whole point of shinies is having them, but if it's not an official game and it's only going to be in that one game, then what is the point of hunting them? Especially when you're not even playing the game itself, you're just on the second route, and you've been playing long enough that you got what looks like almost a full box of shinies. Even at 1/1024 odds that clearly took a while. What's are you even doing this for?

>>58084854
He is playing the game. Different people can enjoy different parts of the same game at different levels. The point of anything is relative. For some the point of shinies is having them, while for others the point is finding them.

>>58084677
>>58084854
I understand your skepticism. I will likely spend around 200-300 hours on this save file, playing through it, playing around with team comps, rematches, collecting a significant number of the Pokemon available as shiny, Battle Frontier, etc. That the game isn't official holds no meaning to me. This is simply how I enjoy Pokemon these days.
I'm doing it for me, and I'm just sharing a little bit of my own experience here with you/anyone reading. Some will look at it and think,
>that's a waste of time
It is. But there's worse ways to kill hours. To be honest, I'd rather pass time this way than how I used to by shitposting on 4chan and several vBulletin boards I used to frequent. I think I'm happier for it.
>>58084704
That's some hard luck. I would never attempt a full-odds hunt for any Pokemon with an appearance rate lower than 20%+. At 4%, it's not just a 1/8192 chance. It's more like 1/20480. You arguably have a better chance at getting into an Ivy League school than you do of finding full-odds shiny Ralts anytime soon.

Something I didn't realize for a long time is that you don't really need a mon with Sweet Scent. Save the slot for something useful, and just bring some honeys. They're consumable from the bag and do the same thing as Sweet Scent.

>>58084824
>>58084843
I don’t understand Island Scan or Pelago. Can someone explain them to me like I’m 5?

thinking of doing Platinum to get a shiny Giratina

>>58085509
If you're gonna do this then run or kill Giratina in the Distortion World and catch it again later in Turnback Cave. The Distortion World has a fuckton of background noise, which makes shiny hunting a nightmare regardless if you're soft resetting or RNG manipulating.

>>58085509
remember to use a empoleon with bide