>>58077476
>But we're not talking about relatively new franchises.
I was replying to your original post where you very clearly used early-installment weirdness as a negative term in general.
>>58077484
Half of those things aren't early-installment weirdness. They were literally the standard at the time. Some of them haven't even changed much, like PokΓ©mon's core gameplay is basically the same after all these years.