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Anonymous No.58084421 >>58084428 >>58084432 >>58084436 >>58084468 >>58084471 >>58084482 >>58084508 >>58084513 >>58085095 >>58085748 >>58085962 >>58086118 >>58086572 >>58087254 >>58087520 >>58088589 >>58089628 >>58091084
Why did they do it tho?
Anonymous No.58084428
>>58084421 (OP)
Same reason a business does anything
Some focus groups found that the 6-10 demographic was 0.5% more likely to engage with ads if Iris was in them over Hilda
Anonymous No.58084432
>>58084421 (OP)
BW is a retread of RB so yeah they copied the gym leader companions with her and Cilan
Anonymous No.58084436 >>58084565
>>58084421 (OP)
What is the source of that image? It looks like official art.
Anonymous No.58084457 >>58084483 >>58084512 >>58084540 >>58084585 >>58087139 >>58091370
only pedophiles care about this
Anonymous No.58084468
>>58084421 (OP)
Iris was cuter
Anonymous No.58084471
>>58084421 (OP)
They wanted a total reboot so probably the later, Gen V sure left Masuda broken because Pokรฉmon fans can read tho
Anonymous No.58084482 >>58086627
>>58084421 (OP)
BW was a pseudo-reboot so Iris having a caustic and cocky personality with Ash paralleled Misty's own. Likewise Cilan is the region's first Gym Leader who becomes the team chef, and Ash meets a legendary upon starting his journey (Zekrom for Unova, Ho-Oh for Kanto).

With the position of female party member fulfilled, Hilda wasn't needed.
Anonymous No.58084483 >>58084837
>>58084457
certainly none of those on /vp/
Anonymous No.58084508
>>58084421 (OP)
I always thought it was a reference to BW, you know how Japanese people love wordplay, so they gave Ash a black and white partner.
Anonymous No.58084512
>>58084457
You can find better vessels Jezebel. Leave and do so!
Anonymous No.58084513
>>58084421 (OP)
I care about this and its because they wanted to give those with jungle fever a Pokegirl to latch on to.
Anonymous No.58084530 >>58084567
So
>Green/Leaf wasn't in Kanto because she didn't really exist at the time and most kids watching would probably not recognize some girl that only appeared on a player's guide cover
>Kris/Marina wasn't in Johto (with Ash) because she wasn't a thing until Crystal and by that point it would be stupid to try and add her or replace Misty mid season
>May got in
>Dawn got in
>Hilda has already been explained
>Rosa they weren't going to shoehorn in mid season
>Serena got in
>Alola cast was already too crowded for Chicken to be a part of the Pokemon School class as well
>Gloria wasn't in Journeys because they wanted their duo boy protagonists and for the show to be globe trotting instead of just Galar
>Juliana isn't in Horizon because it's telling its own story with its own character separate from SV's
Anonymous No.58084540
>>58084457
Anonymous No.58084565
>>58084436
It was a line of quiz books. Each page had a multiple choice question and an illustration. I forget if they were ever translated to English. I have some crops from it saved as reaction images somewhere but I can't find any right now.
Anonymous No.58084567 >>58084593
>>58084530
Lyra was in during DP when HGSS came out, she and a friend came to Sinnoh to help with a Johto culture exhibition. She's the one who gave Dawn her Cyndaquil egg.

Also some of the boys are actually in despite Ash taking their roles (and outfits).
>Gold/Ethan appeared first as Jimmy alongside Marina, and again in the Zoroark movie as himself
>Silver appeared in the opening for the Raikou special, battling Jimmy
>Brendan appeared in the Jirachi, Manaphy, and Giratina movies in the Battle Tower, battling Lucas
>Lucas appeared in the Battle Tower in the Giratina movie, battling Brendan (Ash wears a similar outfit)
>Hilbert wasn't in (Ash took his role and outfit, inverted colors)
>Nate wasn't in
>Calem wasn't in (Ash took his role and outfit)
>Elio wasn't in (Ash took his role and outfit, inverted colors)
>Victor wasn't in because Journeys was wack
>Florian isn't in Horizons for the same reason, but Briar having encountered another Terapagos before, Carmine having a Sinistcha instead of a Poltchageist, and the Pokemon League well aware of Paradox Pokemon in Area Zero implies the main SV adventure happened offscreen already
Anonymous No.58084585
>>58084457
Anonymous No.58084593
>>58084567
I forgot about Lyra. Also Rei appears at the end of the Arceus special in Journeys. If you want to count Akari appearing as well because Dawn dressed up in Hisuian clothes at the start of the arc then I guess you could. There's also Red who while Ash's design was heavily based on also appears in Advanced in his Clefairy manga version
Anonymous No.58084837
>>58084483
Oh thank god. I was told all of /v/ had them. Now I won't get dirty looks while browsing in the library.
Anonymous No.58084989 >>58087158 >>58087164
>Gen V protags remain untainted by the ashnime
Fine by me
Anonymous No.58085095 >>58085308
>>58084421 (OP)
aside of iris being the new misty, hilda was considered to lewd for the anime. not kidding I remember people complaining about her oufit in that time
Anonymous No.58085308
>>58085095
I have ANCIENT knowledge of that era. There were hardly any people complaining. It was all unbridled thirst.
Anonymous No.58085748
>>58084421 (OP)
Dawn , May and Serena could not overshadowed Ash. If anything, people would have Immediately started shopping Hilda with Ash.
Anonymous No.58085962
>>58084421 (OP)
Have people really not noticed by now? It wasn't because of any of those dumb reasons, it's because the only female companions Ash had are those that exist in the game even if you don't choose them. May is your rival if you choose Brendan, and Dawn if you choose Lucas, but Hilda is nowhere to be seen except the Battle Subway if you choose Hilbert. Serena still exists if you choose Calem, so that's why she was in XY, but Selene doesn't exist if you choose Elio. Same with Gloria and Victor and Juliana and Florian.
Anonymous No.58086101 >>58087036 >>58087346
esg points
Anonymous No.58086118 >>58087859
>>58084421 (OP)
A better question is why they didn't choose Bianca.
Anonymous No.58086572
>>58084421 (OP)

16 year old whore and 10 year old kid don't go well together
Anonymous No.58086627
>>58084482
Hilda doesn't have a personality, though. She could have been given whatever personality the anime needed
Anonymous No.58087036 >>58087108 >>58091725
>>58086101
Imagine the mind of whoever made this image.
Anonymous No.58087108
>>58087036
saar
Anonymous No.58087139
>>58084457
You would know
Anonymous No.58087158
>>58084989
Canโ€™t โ€œtaintโ€ a soulless rehash to begin with. Brand X kantomons on gen 4 engine. No wonder that romhack-tier โ€œgenerationโ€ nearly killed the franchise.
Anonymous No.58087164 >>58087355
>>58084989
Anyone saying that after the shit PokรฉSpe does is a retard
Anonymous No.58087254 >>58087338 >>58087571
>>58084421 (OP)
Because if the female (or unpicked) version of the MC doesn't show up in the game, then they don't use them in the anime.
Used
>May
>Dawn
>Lyra
>Serena
Not used
>Leaf
>Kris
>Hilda
>Rosa
>The rest
Anonymous No.58087338
>>58087254
Only difference that Rosa does show up in the games, albeit once for a double battle against the Subway Boss. But the BW anime was already half-way through at that point, so it was kinda pointless to introduce her when Iris and Bianca already filled their roles.
Anonymous No.58087346 >>58090308
>>58086101
why is it always a man
Anonymous No.58087355
>>58087164
To be fair. The anime depictions of Misty, Brock, May, Dawn and Serena are either as popular or more popular than their game counterpart and for a lot are the version of the character they first think of. That can't really be said for the special characters aside from maybe Green.
Anonymous No.58087374
Iris diverges from Misty quite a bit

She was never a Gym Leader (Drayden wanted her to become his apprentice and take over for her, but she rejected that path), and she's more of a playful tease than a tsundere.

She has her own identity as a character, whereas Cilan never goes beyond "Brock replacement"
Anonymous No.58087520 >>58087571
>>58084421 (OP)
The main issue I have they can't have 2 party members who want to challenge gyms, that's why they gave them different goals like pokemon contest, dragon master, artist, breeder, collector, etc
Anonymous No.58087571
>>58087254
Kris is in the anime. She just never met Ash
>>58087520
SwSh would have been a good opportunity for it with the whole "18 gyms in lore" and there being a minor and major league. A chance to show the gyms that aren't seen in the games while also not being forced to have the two main characters challenge the same gym leaders.
Anonymous No.58087859
>>58086118
Ash is the fart joke, please understand
Anonymous No.58088589
>>58084421 (OP)
Why didn't they put aldith after bw? Are they too pussy or what
Anonymous No.58089628
>>58084421 (OP)
Iris is hotter
Anonymous No.58089667 >>58089731
>universally considered the worst gen of Pokemon that almost killed the franchise for good
>also has the worst anime season that even the writers memoryholed in hopes that viewers forgot it ever happened
Kwab
Anonymous No.58089731 >>58089771
>>58089667
>me when i lie
Anonymous No.58089771
>>58089731
He's lowkey right tho, the reception broke Masuda and we never recovered
Anonymous No.58090308 >>58091159
>>58087346
Sir you're in an Iris thread
Anonymous No.58091084
>>58084421 (OP)
Why did they kill Cynthia off for good?
Anonymous No.58091159
>>58090308
i mean for the couples
Anonymous No.58091207
Iris was also on a journey to become a better trainer and a gym leader or the champion of the region later on.
Anonymous No.58091370
>>58084457
she's legal on the rez
Anonymous No.58091725
>>58087036
>58087036
nigger detected
Anonymous No.58091752
>58091725
It's not a lie tho