Thread 58095122

Before BDSP, Sinnoh fans were hyping up the next remakes, as their favorite region would be next. Yet, despite it's potential, we got some of the most disappointing, ugly, soulless games to come out of the franchise. It didn't feel like they wanted to make the remake--Rather they felt like they HAD to. You could feel that while playing the game.
And now, you don't see Unova fans hyping up the next remake, because they know what it is going to be like. If the pattern continues, I doubt Kalos fans will act differently.
Why did GameFreak ruin one of their most loved line-ups of their main series games?

>>58095122 (OP)
HGSS was the last time remakes were good though

>>58095122 (OP)
>BDSP ruined hype for remakes
Don't worry we are only getting legendslop from now on

Don’t blame bdsp, it’s a scapegoat
Plass ruined remakes because they put all their effort into it so thought they could shit on BDSP with low effort slop and it bore the brunt of gamefreak laziness for it

>>58095122 (OP)
ORAS did it first
"the battle frontier project" killed any hope for a more fleshed out region ever again.
Then they outsourced BDSP to a company that literally copy/pasted code from the DS games all bugs included.

>>58095122 (OP)
Unova fans hate everything after and including Gen 6. I don't think they would want a Gen 9/10 modern 'remake', even if BDSP wasn't shit.

>>58095152
this, Gen 6 was unsalvageable garbage.

>>58095122 (OP)
BDSP aren't even that bad as far as remakes go. The expanded underground wild areas did a lot to fix DP's biggest design issue. It's not as good as Plat but the main story teams are genuinely tougher which is something.
I'd gladly play BDSP over vanilla DP, which is a lot more than I could say for FRLG vs vanilla RBY.

>>58095122 (OP)
Game Freak didn't really have anything to do with it, it was ILCA.
Second, the Teraleak showed that they quite literally didn't wanna make it. They always wanted to make Legends Arceus, but fan outcry for a new remake was so great that they had to do something. You all will get mad that Game Freak always does the same thing and then get mad that they wanna do something unique and original for once god I hate you all.

>>58095195
Legends Arceus was slop though.

>>58095195
PLA sucked ass, ugly, boring, Bidoof task simulator rollslop with 0 content.
PLAss was so shitty, it rubbed off onto BDSM by making it outsourced to pajeets who didn’t give a fuck and shit out a soulless remaster to not steal the thunder from GameFreak’s shitty tech demo. Fuck these games

>>58095125
at least you could call ORAS a remake. bdslop is basically a fucking port

>>58095152
low iq zoomer.

there was never, ever any intention to remake emerald's battle frontier in ORAS.

HGSS had its battle frontier copy-pasted from platinum.
ORAS had its battle-whatever copy-pasted from XY.

but the funny part about ORAS to me is that it has more megas than XY, making it the definitive game for gen 6 competitive.

2/3rds of the VGCs in gen 6 had to use oras cartridge games, not xy cartridge games for this reason.

smoggies calls their gen 6 formats 'oras' formats for this reason.

there wasn't anything like this in gen 4 afaik. DP/Platinum/HGSS have equal battle content, unlike XY which literally has less battle content than ORAS.

>>58095184
what you really want, even if you don't realize it, is pokemon Z version (to tie up xy's numerous loose-ends), and Delta Emerald version (for muh frontier and other emerald-exclusive content - since that's the only way you'd get it, with an explicit remake of emerald, as opposed to oras which is just a remake of masuda's og 2002 ruby-sapphire).
Of course neither of these were ever going to happen either because game freak is not the type of company to give fans what they want. by gen 6 they were on a strict schedule with global release deadlines and getting gen 7 out on time was more important than making gen 6 good.

>>58095131
>>58095195
>>58095215
>>58095283

Masuda sabotaged BDSP to make PLA look better

>>58095122 (OP)
it's honestly amusing seeing pokefags defend dogshit games
like you pathetic losers literally have to force yourselves to like those games and say something corny and wholesome-positive cringe to not become a target in the eyes of the ninpedo mob online

>>58095131
yeah, they clearly had a different vision for the project which mogged the tech demo plass
it was a complete remake instead of just a 3d-upscale

PLA won

>>58095404
PLA lost, people even prefer the original DP over that trash.
Too bad we didn’t get an actual remake for a shitty genderswapped empty sandbox tech with ass OST remixes and Shitsui Goodra wearing a shitty diaper made to extinct Garchomp.
https://automaton-media.com/en/news/new-top-100-ranking-of-japanese-peoples-favorite-games-dominated-by-domestic-classics-like-mario-and-pokemon-except-for-the-number-one-spot/

PLA won
ILCAtrannies lost
Pokemon is saved with PLZA

>>58095125
True, but morons didn't appreciated the HEART and SOUL those games had and keep making retarded nitpicks like le Lebel Curb, not appreciating all the improvements, and outright shitting on the magnum opus of content like the Pokethalon.
the ONE (1) time Game Freak was greedy with putting content IN to games no one appreciated it, so Game Freak decide to never try again.

>>58095414
wow we can tell now that
sv won
dp won
rg won
rs won
bw won
gs won
swsh won

plass lost
shitsui was nuked and forgotten
every character in shitsui is a transcoded DEI genderswap created to appeal to faggots
legends games are confirmed shovelware-tier tech demos to test out shitty rollslop and combat systems

Huge story win for PLA
Shills absolutely mad ITT

GameFreak stopped giving a fuck about remakes after HGSS (ORAS was just Ohmori's launchpad) because Ohmori wants to focus on entirely new regions, casts, mons and stories, he doesn't want to look like Masuda Jr. by relying on his sensei's games.

>>58095283
>women can't have male ancestors
>Enamorous is a trans, because...IT JUST IS OKAY!
>Onmyoji are...trannies? (What are you even calling typhlosion, what's the triangle swirl thing, why it have HIV? like seriously, what the fuck am I even looking at?)
>a shell is a diaper
why are you like this?

>>58095438
>>women can't have male ancestors
It genuinely is an odd choice

>the final trainers before the credits roll in XY and PLASS
>PLASS is so ashamed of Sinnoh that it doesn't even use Rhyperior despite the fact wandering bandits are the most likely to happen upon a Spacetime Distortion-granted Protector since they care about riches (which those are full of)
Bros...

He's really trying with that one.

>>58095438
He's a manchild who's throwing a years-long tantrum over Game Freak making a new game instead doing a remake of his childhood game. There's an alternate universe out there where PLA ended but being pretty great game he's still doing endless shitflinging on 4chan with posts that look as if a chimp made them.

>>58095438
Because he's a manchild throwing a years-long tantrum over Game Freak making a new game instead doing a remake of his childhood game. There's an alternate universe out there where PLA ended up being a pretty great game and he's still doing endless shitflinging on 4chan with posts that look as if a chimp made them.

>”new” game (tech demo)
>every single pokemon in the game has been seen before
>map is reused, but not really because it’s completely fucking barren
>OST is reused but made demonstrably worse to ripoff BOTW, also couldn’t even bother to remix stuff like cyrus’ theme
>spiritomb wisps are just shitty knock offs of korok seeds
>dialga and palkia have been seen before, but now palkia is a retarded horse and dialga has throat cancer
>goodra has been seen before but now it’s wearing a shitty diaper
>action mechanics so dogshit, it makes the turn based combat in the mainline look amazing
>battle tower rip off that’s even more lackluster than the one in RS
>the only new character in the game is the African dude in 1800s japan
>every other character in the game has been seen before, but now they’re genderswapped for Black Rock funding
>full priced game (tech demo) with less pokemon than Gen 2, less moves than Gen 1, less combat abilities than Gen 3

Quick reminder that bdsp outsold pla

You guys voted with your wallet

>>58095521
At first, unfortunately GameFreak cocksuckers were so desperate to defend shitsui that they bought extra copies just to save its nonexistent reputation by the time both games were completely irrelevant by scatvomit.

>>58095521
Damn, it’s a shame the game people were excited for was sabotaged for a shitty tech demo like plass, then

>>58095524
>plasspamposter lying to make pla look less like a flop than it is
weird way to shit on a sidegame that mentality broke you but ok

>>58095528
It wasn't tho? bdsp is still to this day one of the only two good pokemon remakes alongside frlg

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>>58095531
put more effort into your back-to-back false flagging shitposts, pablo

>>58095528
>>58095531
>>58095534
>>58095545
all me btw

Amazing that, when kids demand to get games Game Freak had no plans to make, Game Freak don't actually bother putting in effort, as they don't see the point of them beyond making money (and since all their games make money by basically existing, that precludes giving more of a fuck for a re-tread because retarded little kids buy ting anyway).

>>58095577
This. Why bother making a good game with effort put into it, when you can shit out halfassed tech demos about a transgender genie and sell 15 million units?

>>58095414
reminder that literally no one cares about plass here besides the rabid botwfag plassjeet shill
it's a literal tech demo
plza mogs that shit

>>58095580
That had more effort in in that the whos port of BDSP though.
It also was don by actual Game Freak, instead of overseen by a Game Freak employee, while newfags struggled to even make such a limited-scope game in two years (MASSIVE day one patch, kek).

>>58095581
The obnly one who hates it is the monkey third worlder, who expected Game Freak to wholesale rehash a past remake for her, just because she screamed for one to not be left out among her peers.

>>58095577
>implying GF ever put effort into any Pokemon game made after bw
bitch little town hero and gigabreaker had more effort put into them than all pokemon games on switch combined

>>58095588
What effort, hitting the swap gender button? PLASS had the same amount of effort as creating a map in gmod

>>58095592
>The obnly one who hates it is the monkey third worlder
oh no no no>>58095414 plass is japwank: the tech demo and even they forgot it exists

>>58095588
>That had more effort in in that the whos port of BDSP though.
objectively wrong because bdsp has more mons in it than plass. that game was so rushed that it didn't even bother including the full sinnoh dex.

See it all goes back to Gen 4.
HGSS was so, so good that Hoenn babies got on the internet to beg for their games to be next. They said themselves that ORAS was partly motivated by Hoenn fans, and the "Hoenn confirmed!" memes that started to spread in early 2010s. People took Pokemon remakes for granted, like EVERY game had to have one. But Game Freak wants to make new games and sequels like Arceus and ZA, instead of doing making the same thing again. BDSP was a disaster. But fans may have themselves to blame...

>>58095609
>hgss
>good
dead meme

>>58095592
uh oh, triggered the bharat poojeet cow lover plassie!

>all these browns getting mad at facts
lole
>58095612
Sorry thirdie, I'm too white for that, too old to have a "childhood pokémon game" and too decidedly monied to find having two games to buy within 3 months untenable. So I'll never actually get emotional over pokémon, the way you've been sperging over it because they didn't clone ORAS for (You)r retarded entitled arse.
Hope that helps.

>>58095659
How fucking pajeet. Put that ass wiper away, Rajesh

everyone knows plass was just a shitty tech demo to shut those whiny botwfags up

>>58095659
uh oh, triggered brownjeet plassie!

>>58095778
>>58095803
I know you are, that's why you seethed over two $60 titles being sold within 3 months of each other.
In the developed world however, wages are strong enough to allow the average human to afford such things as $60 purchases 3 months apart (and more, I dropped $680 5th June to get my Switch 2 and a 4K monitor to run it on). I would say "move and get better wages" but the EU's outsourcing all its shitty boring work to your lot and the eastern europeans are too hard-working to be replaced doing the shitty IRL jobs to want lazy indians.

>>58095822
uh oh, plassaar is MAD!!!

>>58095122 (OP)
The funny thing is that BDSP are still so much better to play than the originals, Platinum included

what set off the underage/ESL samefag spammer to get so mad about pla again?

>>58095122 (OP)
Remakes are ALWAYS lazy cashgrab scams that literally rehash content to get money out of retards who don't realise that they can just play the original if they love that game so much. Same shit with all those Disney movie remakes that attracts normies like shit attracts flies because "omg my favorite childhood movie except gritty and realistic so I don't have to feel bad for watching a cartoon because I am insecure about my maturity!"
Anyway, point is remakes are a fucking mistake and you should NEVER be hyped for them, let alone buy them. It's literally old content but wrapped in new paper, often even worse than the original or with content removed. Stop fucking falling for that shit.

I feel like BDSP only exist in case people didn't take well to the experimental Legends formula. But since PLA was so loved the Legends series probably replaces the slot remakes would have and it saves costs for game freak as they don't have to model a whole region in modern day 3D

What set off the esl/underage plasshill to start malding again ?

>parroting
seethe harder kiddo

>>58095122 (OP)
ORAS changed too much whereas FRLG was near perfectly executed and HGSS was a huge upgrade, but ORAS also gave the impression that new story, new art, new characters, new megas/forms would be included, and Gamefreak has decided that Legends games are what all those things are going to be implemented into instead of the remakes.

>watching the thread to see if her shilling got replies on her tech demo
Kwabbin

>>58095185
Kill yourself stupid nigger piece of shit pajeet

remake or dont all pokemon are garbage now
be grateful didnt ruin diamond and pearl with garbage redesigns like oras did

>>58095283
You are mentally ill and probably obese you retarded tosser

>>58096315
Nice counter argument.

>>58096320
You are an Indian paid by Nintendo’s marketing department to shill objectively bad tech demos full of AGP pandering.
Do better

>genuinely wanting remakeslop
Nigga just play the original. Remakes are most soulless Jew scam on the planet, and it's concerning how many consoomtards for for that shit. Humanity is truly braindead and willings spreads its ass to get fucked.

i wish they never stopped making third versions
i wish there was pokemon grey instead of b2 and w2
i wish there was a pokemon z
i wish there was pokemon eclipse instead of us and um

>>58095122 (OP)
I never had hype for remakes, remasters or any other lazy rehashed content, and you were wrong the whole time for consooming them.

>>58095609
FRLG had the excuse that it was literally impossible to complete the dex in RS. HGSS didn't NEED to be made per se, but it was a soulful game, and it was nice to play through Johto with abilities and the phys/spec split. There was no good reason to continue making remakes after this.

>>58095122 (OP)
BDSP will be great, just wait for the romhacks

>>58096918
>Oh, you want to complete the Nat dex after we axed half the roster? Better pay up for two more games, pay piggy.
Yeah no fuck that and fuck you.

>>58095152
>ORAS did it first
no it didn't

"ORAS is le bad actually" is dexit revisionism

>>58097101
No, people pretty thoroughly hated ORAS because Zinnia was a shit character only coomers liked, the free Mega Lati@s was blatant casual pandering, the copypasted Battle Maison with no Frontier (yet cockteasing the frontier all the same), and a shit postgame that consisted solely of collecting old legendaries en masse, which would become franchise standard going forward with USUM's Ultra Wormholes, SWSH DLC's Dynamax Adventures, and SV's Snacksworth Snacks.

>>58097110
This, exactly everyone hate me plass. Battle Frontier replaced for a trans genie fetch quest, dogshit simplified combat, and no content besides shiny hunting for casual faggots

>>58097115
>deleted

>>58097110
This, also exactly everyone hates plass. Battle Frontier replaced for a trans genie fetch quest, dungeons and routes replaced with casualised empty geometry, dogshit simplified combat, and no content besides shiny hunting for casual faggots

>>58097101
>revisionism
People hated the game on release.

>>58097110
>>58097146

>>58097153
>honeymoon phase polls
lol

>>58097110
>>58097146
https://web.archive.org/web/20150209072657/https://www.metacritic.com/game/3ds/pokemon-omega-ruby

>>58097159
damn it sure is strange how SS and SV and BDSP didn't have a "honeymoon phase"

>>58097101
This.
>b-but muh BF
The vast majority of the playerbase doesn't give a fuck about postgame battle facilities.

ORAS is a far worse game than BDSP.

>>58097166
Because the one-two-punch of LGPE, the cope of "Wait for the next game, this one isn't for you!" combined with SWSH's Dexit completely killed all faith in GameFreak and overall franchise morale.
For as shitty as things were with ORAS, it was still seen as a one-off because this was Ohmori's very first game, we had no idea he was completely taking over from Masuda when it came to future brand new titles, and then SM proved he could write a fucking spectacular story and captivating characters if given his own foundation to work with rather than having to build off of pre-existing infrastructure from Hoenn.

>>58097101
trvke.
at least oras didn’t cut the dex and had the same features as gen 6 unlike like plass and bdspisss

>>58097177
>Because the one-two-punch of LGPE, the cope of "Wait for the next game, this one isn't for you!" combined with SWSH's Dexit completely killed all faith in GameFreak
damn it sure is weird how this "killed faith in Game Freak" didn't affect PLA's reception at all

>>58095420
>the magnum opus of content like the Pokethalon
I know this isn’t a popular opinion but I genuinely think the pokéathlon is the worst part of the game and massively overrated

>>58098150
It's a fun little activity to do on the side when you're not busy doing the standard battling and getting Gym badges.

>>58095420
there is not a single pokemon game that has been wanked harder than HGSS

>>58098150
pokeathalon praise makes me believe the meme that pokemon fans only play pokemon
>oh wow touchscreen minigames! so cool!
everything had touchscreen minigames dipshit, it was the fucking DS. it's like praising a wii game for having motion controls.

>>58095440
Literally every person has a mother and a father. Half of every single person's ancestors are the opposite gender. If they were all the same gender then they would get accused of pulling cartoon gender logic.

>>58097176
it is a far superior remake thoughalbeit

>>58097176
this is your brain on MUH BATTLE FRONTIER

>>58098235
And yet all I ever hear about it are level curve, and and other stupid crap like Jasmine didn’t use a Skarmorinro, or you can’t get larvitaroni.

>>58100064
no you don’t you whiny faggot

>>58100064
Because we're in a post-dexit era where every single game must be torn down with pure vitriol (except gen 1, because "you wouldn't have these games if God Emperor CHARIZARD's game wasn't a success, teehee!") in order to make Switch Era Pokemon look less bad in comparison.

>>58100143
Kid people were tearing Gen 2 for that when /vp/ opened. I'm sorry you perceive the internet has decided to shit on your childhood, but that's because the internet is a varied, greater thing than Timmy from 2010's opinion. They're also not retarded enough to believe contextless TOAP to base their beliefs in (they were lazy so ported all of the established work to HGSS). Gotta learn to accept majority opinion is not a personal attack at you exclusively online.

>>58100064
the criticism is a response to a decade of wanking