Thread 58096788

When can we expect the Kalos starters megas to drop? Worlds perhaps?

>>58096788 (OP)
Yesterday

>>58096788 (OP)
>Abandons turn based combat
I hope this is real just so I can watch the autists who are terrible at pokemon games seethe

>>58096806
it was long overdue but it's finally happening and it's no coincidence they are also releasing an official competitive turn-based game that connects directly to home (and will likely have seasonal championships depending on the games' release schedules)
it's also releasing in 2026, which is when they'll likely release a new generation or some other test game (or maybe this is their big release for 2026)
it's already bothering some people since they are so used to sitting their fat lazy asses down pressing a button or two, but now they have to actually put effort into battling
now, the games will demand skill
you have to time your attacks
you have to time your dodges
you have to time certain moves like protect or double team
you have to get better at positioning
you have to think of the cooldowns
you have to think of effect durations
it's gonna completely change pokemon in a good way
no more stalling or other pathetic "strategies"
now the battles are actually interesting and fun
even if they remove competitive completely from the main series games, it won't be an issue since players can simply have the traditional turn-based slop in the mobileshit "game"
they can implement different multiplayer in the main games, like the ones that already exist such as co-op raids but with real-time 4v1

>>58096788 (OP)
MEGA ZYGARDE IS THE TRUE ULTIMATE WEAPON LET'S GO

>>58096910
>now, the games will demand skill
lmao

Pokemon was never easy because it was turn based, it's easy because they want it to be. An action combat system can be even more boring and tedious if it's not challenging enough.

>>58096940
>>58096788 (OP)
>the first megaevolution was Lucario hundreds years ago!
>jk Rayquaza started it a thousand years ago
>actually Zygarde is the true origin and the Ultimate Weapon was created 3000 years ago based on it

>>58096788 (OP)
>Gaia
>Abandons turn-based combat
I hate to ask because I hate bringing up these faggots, but have any of the twittard leakers commented on this aspect of the rumors at all?

>>58097067
Anyone with media literacy who played ORAS knew Zygarde was the origin of megaevolution, it's explicitly show how the mega meteors are changed upon reaching the planet and how the natural energy of the world Groudon and Kyogre consume to go Primal is also able to create megastones.
Megastones have always been a product of Earth (Zygarde) natural energy

>>58097181
>Megastones have always been a product of Earth
Citation needed

>>58097067
>AZ's ultimate weapon created mega stones
>Actually mega stones were giant meteoroids from the primal era

>>58097222
Meteorites change into megastones in earth, they aren't naturally megastones

>>58096788 (OP)
The Mega Kanto starters were revealed on September 2013

>>58097203
>>58097222
The meteorites that fall in Hoenn aren't megastones, you get one yourself to see how they become megastones over time, and the new megastones that appear in ORAS aren't even from meteors, they naturally appear from the natural energy Groudon/Kyogre was feeding on.
Rocks can become megastones regardless of their origin, meteors have nothing to do with it.

>>58096940
>Yveltal-powered Ultimate Weapon looks like a dog's dick
>Xerneas-powered Ultimate Weapon is a testicle instead
I wonder how will Zygarde's Ultimate Weapon look

>just like placucks before them, plzakeks seriously believe that their sidegames that flop harder than bw will ever replace real pokemon games
see you in gen 10 kids

>>58097358
>Meteorites change into megastones in earth
Meteorites already fall from the sky looking like mega stones
>>58097577
>The meteorites that fall in Hoenn aren't megastones
The meteorites already fall from the sky looking like mega stones

>>58097577
>Rocks can become megastones regardless of their origin
Clearly not hence the emphasis of meteorites instead of generic earth stones
>B-But sycamore said-
Sycamore can't even prove what he said is true

>>58097758
Nope, that's NoA invention. In the english version Zinnia says
>The meteors shone with a rainbow brilliance, as if some great life was held within.
But in japanese Higana says
>隕石はまるで生命を宿したかのように七色に輝きだした The meteorite(s) began to glow in seven colors, as if it had come to life.
Meteors and meteorites aren't the same. Meteors (流星 ryusei) are the shooting stars you see mid air, meteorites (隕石 inseki) are what's left from them after impacting on the planet.
Why do you think the meteorite you obtain only starts glowing with rainbow colors after multiple transformations? There are no rainbow meteors, they hit the planet and then they may start changing into megastones just like any other stone.

>>58097758
it's a mythological cave painting made with the hindsight of people that had realized the mega stones appeared after the meteors. an actual meteor would be impossible to make out the finer details of without specialized equipment because they fall to the earth at high speeds and by the time they're even close enough to spot on the surface they'd be obscured by the dust and debris breaking off of the main body
do you think there were giants ruling over ancient society because pic related drew something that looked like it?

>>58097766
ORAS literally tells you random stuff from Wally's cousin yard became megastones so no it's not only about meteorites
Try reading instead of smashing A like a retard

>>58097796
>do you think there were giants ruling over ancient society because pic related drew something that looked like it?
Can you prove they weren't?

>>58097804
can you prove that you weren't a goblin hatched out of an egg and swapped out with some random human baby?

>>58097809
You didn't answer the question

>>58097811
that's because your question is stupid, so I responded with a question equally as stupid

>>58097817
A question you can't even answer

>>58097801
>random stuff from Wally's cousin yard became megastones
Which fanfic did you get this information from? she just said she found it in the yard nothing bout stuff turning into mega stones

>>58096788 (OP)
>abandons turn based combat
How does this make sense? You're supposed to play as the trainer giving commands, not the Pokemon themselves.

>>58097758
>>58097804
>this retard thinks the ORAS murals means people saw literal giant keystones fall from the sky
Fucking KEK

>>58097836
if the stone didn't looked like a mega/keystone then they wouldn't have depicted it as such

>>58097830
>she just said she found it in the yard
Nope, she said she found them after the natural energy Groudon and Kyogre were stealing was released upon the region. So either you think two megastone meteors fell in her yard and she didn't even realize (and there was no crater or anything like that) or you accept it's the energy released what made some rocks in that yard become megastones.

>>58097825
yeah, because it's on the same level of thought as
>durrrrr bigfoot is real and all of the sightings of it are true even though there's zero actual evidence for it and there's no way we wouldn't have definitive sightings of it by now with how much of the planet is under constant surveillance with people constantly looking for it. and there's nothing that definitely proves bigfoot absolutely does not exist therefore it must be true!

>>58097841
>being so autistic that the concept of abstraction is THIS alien to you
I guess ancient hoenn people looked like stick figures since the mural says so

>>58097844
But it's nowhere said it's just two normal rocks turning into mega stones

>>58097849
>He can't answer a simple question
lol

>>58097841
>giant fireball falls from the sky
>ancient people go see the crater
>find a massive rock
>in that rock there's a precious gemstone with a cool mark
You are right, how could any ancient tribe possibly depict this event by drawing the gemstone, mark included, falling from the sky? There's no way that could happen!

>>58097855
There's no reason to depict the meteorite as a giant keystone if it didn't looked like a giant keystone

>>58097856
I said random stuff tho >>58097801 not exactly normal rocks
Either way there's no difference. Something mundane from planet Earth became a megastone thanks to natural energy released at the end of the game's main story, no meteors involved

>>58097866
>>giant fireball falls from the sky
>>ancient people go see the crater
>>find a massive rock
>>in that rock there's a precious gemstone with a cool mark
Perfectly in line with gamefreak writing yes

>>58097868
>there's no reason to depict a meteor as the weird gem found when the locals checked the meteorite crater
lmao

>>58097875
>no meteors involved
if you ignore the fact the kyogre battle takes place in a meteorite crater maybe

>>58097861
>simple question
>when you obviously won't accept "because there's no evidence for it" and even if I were to dig up every square inch of earth and build a time machine to experience the era for myself you'd still deny it

>>58097882
There's no reason to depict the meteorite as a keystone if it didn't looked like that yes

>>58097887
>>when you obviously won't accept
You didn't even try to begin with

>>58097876
Anon you know that's how real meteorites work sometimes right? It's not uncommon to find curious materials/structures inside big rock boulders that fell from the sky

>>58097894
Correct, the meteorite looked like that, not the meteor. Good job kid, you finally said something that makes sense.

>>58097796
... the giant is AZ, is everyone on this board deaf dumb and blind?

>>58097898
yeah, because I can't magically pull out a piece of evidence that definitively proves I have checked every square inch of this planet and history to show that something nonsensical did not in fact happen. no one can, unless you want to prove to me that you didn't hatch from a goblin egg and steal someone's identity, since apparently disproving the impossible is something you're capable of doing.

>>58097883
>if you ignore something completely unrelated
Correct. The energy released from that crater comes from the planet, the crater is just a crack on the planet that leads to its energy.

>>58097915
Are all these guys AZs? Because if you take it literally, they are massive as compared to Sootopolis

crazy how the iq in this thread averages to 60 despite the majority of the people here having average or above iq

>>58097902
>Anon you know that's how real meteorites work sometimes right?
i know that real life meteorites don't (as far as i know) contain skeleton-like space dragons so it's a pretty weak assumption pretending it's 1 to 1 to the real life meteorites

>>58097923
>completely unrelated
Citation needed

>>58097940
>did you know real meteorites contain rare things
>uhhhh well this is an example of a pokemon meteorite containing a rare thing therefore meteorites in pokemon work completely differently
please don't reproduce

>>58097951
>Rare thing
Wishing stars aren't even rare in-game lore lmao

>>58097951
But do they contain skeleton-like space dragons? if not then they're not the same as the real life meteorites

>>58097947
>Thousands of years ago, in the primal age long lost, the world was overflowing with natural energy. Primal Groudon and Primal Kyogre fought over that energy in endless, furious clashes.
>The great meteoroid was the first of many disasters to befall humanity. When it punched into the planet, the land cracked beneath it, and a great welling of natural energy poured from beneath Hoenn. Thirsting for that energy, Primal Kyogre and Primal Groudon once again woke.
There you go. Groudon and Kyogre never fought over some weird space power, they fought over the power of mother earth itself and it's this power what is released upon Hoenn creating more megastones in ORAS.

>>58097957
meteors and meteorites contain things from space, that is entirely what they do
if there was an alien lifeform capable of surviving its planet's destruction or was simply covered in enough space debris before falling to earth, then sure, there could be a skeleton-like space dragon contained within a meteorite.
real meteorites wouldn't magically change properties if I climbed into one and crashed onto earth from within it

>>58097940
>>58097957
>if people can find weird stuff in meteorites how come there's a meteor with a dragon pokemon inside in Sword and Shield

>>58097972
>Meteorites in pokemon function exactly the same as they do in real life
>But i'm never going to prove that because i said so

>>58097979
>Meteorites in pokemon function exactly the same as they do in real life
Nobody has ever said this. Maybe you forgot your meds.

>>58097971
>real meteorites wouldn't magically change properties
The real life wouldn't yes

>>58097983
>Nobody has ever said this.
That's what you have been implying so far

fully convinced this is trolling at this point, I could buy someone being dumb enough for the keystone meteor bullshit but this eternatus shit is trying too hard

>>58097988
>I could buy someone being dumb enough for the keystone meteor bullshit
That someone is gamefreak

The retard has yet to answer >>58097792
But we know he can't because he would have to admit he's wrong and megastones don't arrive at the planet, but are created there instead

>>58097987
>that's what the voices in my head said you believe
The meds, anon. Take them before posting again.

>>58098001
>Thinking about meds
NGMI

>>58097998
>>58097988
It's trolling, this post >>58097883 is the same shit he wrote the other day
https://arch.b4k.dev/vp/thread/58025641/#58047418
And he has been replied to with the same quotes >>58097963
https://arch.b4k.dev/vp/thread/58025641/#58047660
He even tried to say the planet's life energy in general came from meteors too

>>58097963
You literally fight kyogre in a giant crater

>>58098027
A crater that leads to the planet's reserves of energy that creates megastones yeah

>>58098039
A crater created by a big meteorite

is that so?

>>58098044
Yes the planetary energy that creates megastones can be accessed by something that opens earth like a meteor crater. How does that change it's the planet's power what creates megastones, shitposter?

>>58098059
>Yes the planetary energy that creates megastones can be accessed by something that opens earth like a meteor crater.
If it were true, a meteorite wouldn't be needed to release the energy to begin with just dig a hole in the ground

>>58098068
>the game explicitly says it's the planet's energy being released from a massive crack
>"bro dig a hole???"

>>58098073
>>"bro dig a hole???"
Yes? don't any of your pokemon know that move?

>The planet's energy can be released from a massive crack created by a meteorite
>But using earthquake doesn't work
>Groudon can't open a crack to release that energy because lol
?

>>58098073
>>58098059
>>58098039
See >>58098020 and stop feeding the troll

>gen 10 "leaks"
>when we know they keep it in-house and hidden from ANY cunt until 8 months until release date
The fact you mouthbreathing retards still can't comprehend that is hilarious. Much less you think a spazz like Iwao would get called up to Main team (there's a reason why he's directing L: Z-A, to keep him busy while Ohmori makes Gen 10).

>>58098104
Iwao is not directing Z-A, Tochigi Haruka (first time in the role) is directing the game.

So the only pokemon that can megaevolve in the non-mega universe are Zygarde and Rayquaza, right? Zygarde by being the manager of life energy and Rayquaza thanks to its organ that works as a megastone
I guess Groudon and Kyogre too if you count Primal reversion as mega

>>58096788 (OP)
They'll show another random one at Worlds but you won't get all 3 starters.

Occam’s razor you fucking idiots
Mega stones have inconsistent lore because the series changed directors halfway through generation 6 and Ohmori cares more about making little girls than any actual worldbuilding

>>58098600
Diancie via the gem or whatever it has too

>>58099115
>Mega stones have inconsistent lore
They don't, the first game with megas suggests they were created by the energy obtained from the life of many lifeforms and a pokemon capable of managing this energy somehow, but also hinted at things falling from space (the sundial), then the second game explores things falling from space, releasing the planet's life energy upon impact and forming megastones. Zygarde is the third legendary in charge of managing life-death energy and the incarnation of the planet itself so linking everything to it in the third mega-based game is only logical.

>>58097713
I'm really curious about the weapon's design because Perfect Zygarde already looks a little too much like a mecha and too little like a pokemon. I forgive them because it looks FUCKING AWESOME but if it's mostly the same but with an ultimate weapon on top I wonder if it's gonna feel full digimon

>>58097713
>Unable to think of anything but dicks & balls

You CANNOT make this shit up

>>58099490
I just remembered Core Enforcer makes Zygarde strike a Z pose and I wonder if Mega-Zygarde will still be able to form a Z with its body

>>58099968
>shitnime
>doesn't even contradict ORAS because Gurkin has no way to know the secrets of a small ancient japanese clan that keeps the secret of megaevolution for themselves
Retard

This thread just further reinforces just how awful ORAS's retcons are

>>58099973
ORAS already contradicts itself. RSE occurs in the TL already (it even references that timeline by stating "a hoenn that never experienced ME", just like the Hoenn in the core timeline, where Gen 1 and 3 occur simultaneously and XY is confirmed to occur after the events of those games). Never mind they outright confirmed for the slower kids later on the universe is a multiverse (as if the varying iterations of games, never mind the individual's experiences playing said games automatically differed by nature to their peers' playthrough, yet all told the one story hadn't awoken them to the possibility). ORAS appears in its own alt universe, one where Fug was the first instance of ME (because Pokémon world is like ours, soon as something new is revealed that countermands past games, the new canon supersedes it going forward. ORAS' lore however didn't get carried on, proving it wasn't lore central to the concept, but to one specific game, made as a concession to "fans" than out of a desire to produce it (no plans to make it until Masuda trawled the internet comments and found spastics screaming for one). Never mind the pokémon world is FAR more technologically advanced and has people who directly study the creatures and phenomena that surrounds them, to the point someone would have heard the legends and been able to confirm if Fug appeared before M. Lucario, especially if the legend was passed down in Hoenn from the year dot. Seems not only time travel and timelines confuse the simple, but also multiverses and their impact (or lack thereof) on primary timelines. Rule of thumb for future, if something's mentioned, then mentioned again in a later Gen, it's canon. If something's mentioned, but only in one mid-Gen game then dropped and ignored as the machine rumbles on, it's an AU part of the multiverse, same as LGPE was a retread of Yellow, while also being a timefuck, with the Gen 1 cast now being 3-5 years older than their canon Gen 1 ages and new MC's/rival

tl;dr version for those who didn't understand >>58100120 rambling
>"I don't understand simple charts and I get very insecure when it turns out I don't understand children games either"

>>58100120
Are you one of those retards who think pic related means there's only one timeline with these editions specifically instead of being a generic listing on the games in order chronological?
BW can't even happen after DP btw only after Pt. You are a retard

>>58100550
>implying it's not just one retard
Wait for him to start talking about youtubers

Here's another leak for you but you have to act surprised when you see it ingame
23 minute long anal sex cutscene with Emma in the post game

>>58097713
SOON

>>58097972
Space(Poke)Balls: The Bri'ish Invasion Strikes Out.

>>58096940
>LET'S GO
Anon, this is Legends.

>>58096910
The only action combat system I actually enjoyed was TERA, most shitty games fall on the MMO traps and become tedium with macros and mediocre gameplay in the long run.

Pokemon already has raids with shitty drops, you can already see how an incompetent developer will fall in those traps with ease. I don't trust game freak not in the slightest.

>>58100550
You do realise Lucas faces Giratina regardless WHICH version is played in Gen 4, yes? Sounds like you're the retard desperately trying to get the world to believe your fanfics.
>>58100550
Yeah, there is only one timeline, or more correctly, there's a PRIME timeline, then multitudes of AU worlds, where other games and events take place (LGPE, ORAS, Crystal, Emerald, etc.) because Game Freak aren't autistic spastic kids like you who couldn't comprehend this possibility. And I'm too oldfag to blindly believe shit kids say on the internet about pokémon.