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Anonymous No.58100899 >>58100906 >>58101730 >>58101759 >>58101808 >>58102224 >>58102268 >>58103560 >>58103798 >>58105671 >>58106534 >>58111817 >>58112632 >>58113467
Imagine if they putted the postgame and difficulty and kalos war story in south kalos which was all lacking in the final release in XY .

We got robbed so much
Anonymous No.58100906 >>58100909 >>58101907
>>58100899 (OP)
>Imagine if they putted the postgame and difficulty and kalos war story in south kalos
all of these are in XY already
Anonymous No.58100909 >>58100910
>>58100906
Southern Kalos doesn't current finish in any titles. OP is referring to that beta map image with the additional postgame towns and content. Don't be dense.
Anonymous No.58100910 >>58100913
>>58100909
>with the additional postgame towns and content
all of these are in XY already
Anonymous No.58100913 >>58100919 >>58101527
>>58100910
There's 11 places on that map not in the final game Anon.
Anonymous No.58100919
>>58100913
>There's 11 places on that map not in the final game
they are in the final game
Anonymous No.58100969 >>58101520 >>58105685
>A game should be overbloated with useless unfun content after the game is over because I can't accept I need to stop playing at some point
Anonymous No.58100972
Pokefags always judge a game by its postgame and not what comes before it.
Anonymous No.58100978 >>58100986 >>58101916 >>58102048 >>58103527 >>58111818
The harsh truth is that XY felt incomplete because they are just average souless rushed games, especially compared to the greatness that came before it. For that reason GF moved on from XY instead of making the usual 3rd version that every single Gen got and left the shitty boring Kalos totally forgotten in their basement, until now with PLZA which has the chance of doing something right but we are not in Gen 6 anymore but in Gen 9. Even when it comes to Megas most people think of ORAS and the multiverse shit instead of XY.
Anonymous No.58100986
>>58100978
>game bad because it doesn't pander to me
ok borty
Anonymous No.58101520
>>58100969
Yes, unironically.

Running all over Kalos is great and having there be more places to explore would be great too
Anonymous No.58101527 >>58101919
>>58100913
yes they are
Anonymous No.58101730 >>58101736 >>58103446
>>58100899 (OP)
Seeing south Kalos being revealed as the leaks were dropping was one of those "You just had to be there" experiences. XY would have been so much better had they gone all the way in and finished what they set out to do
Anonymous No.58101736 >>58101917
>>58101730
And the best part about it?
Yawnfag never recovered. His already false worldview shattered right before him. For once, everyone on /vp/ laughed at him in unison. He can claim otherwise, but this singlehandedly finished tanking Kalos's reputation.
Anonymous No.58101740
Anonymous No.58101754 >>58101928
It's quite bizarre how people think any other game has no "cut" content.
Anonymous No.58101759 >>58101862
>>58100899 (OP)
know any projects to restore/ implement some of this?
was there a leak of any 3d assets of the scrapped locations?
Anonymous No.58101808 >>58101849 >>58106064
>>58100899 (OP)
Southern Kalos was never meant to be in XY, it was just going to be a Pokemon Z thing.
Anonymous No.58101849 >>58101852
>>58101808
Got cut from XY at the absolute last minute and was going to get repurposed for Z, leaks state as much
Anonymous No.58101852
>>58101849
Oh so the content was 100 % ready then lets see the models
Anonymous No.58101862 >>58101940 >>58102255
>>58101759
It never went through conceptual phase, the final thing we know about it is that it would have a summer theme (the other 3 Kalos subdivisions have a season theme each) and it was left as a plan if a third version was made.
Anonymous No.58101907 >>58102008
>>58100906
There was very little post game and literally no difficulty at all. Why do you think 90% of the fanbase considers XY the easiest?
Anonymous No.58101916 >>58101923
>>58100978
Funnily enough, they did start development on a Pokémon Z version that ended up being scrapped relatively early into development.

This video goes in depth into it and provides links to sources
https://youtu.be/2cGw4FmwZm8
Anonymous No.58101917 >>58101951 >>58103441
>>58101736
I'm increasingly convinced that these threads are created by him to samefag within. He's not some mythical figure, just some retard too committed to an unfunny joke.

He doesn't even hate the Gen 5 games in reality.
Anonymous No.58101919 >>58103391
>>58101527
Weird, I can't find how to access them. Would you be so kind as to explain in detail how to do so? There's nothing online about it.
Anonymous No.58101923
>>58101916
Pokemon Z would have legitimately been the best Pokemon game of all time, it's to video games what the Jodorowsky's Dune is to movies or Beach Boys' SMiLE is to music
Anonymous No.58101928
>>58101754
No one thinks this. They all have had cut content. Its just that many agree that XY needed its cut content the most. You won't find as much of this regarding other generations.
Anonymous No.58101939 >>58101953
There really should be an x and y decomp happening, The source code has been leaked, it’s basically the perfect time right now.
Anonymous No.58101940 >>58102255
>>58101862
And they also planned to do an 'upper version' as Game Freak usually refers to them as such. It didn't get far into development though. As far as I know, it was just a version of XY with some tiny changes and a fuck ton of concept art explaining possible story changes and new gameplay additions.
Anonymous No.58101951
>>58101917
Sounds an awful lot like when the /v/ schizo tried to make everyone believe he was a tendie falseflagging as a snoy
Anonymous No.58101953
>>58101939
I'd wait until after Z-A to do something like that
Anonymous No.58102008 >>58102019 >>58102066
>>58101907
>There was very little post game and literally no difficulty at all
not really

>Why do you think 90% of the fanbase considers XY the easiest?
because they didn't pay attention to the game
Anonymous No.58102019 >>58103350
>>58102008
Yawnie, meds
Anonymous No.58102048
>>58100978
Based and true
Anonymous No.58102066 >>58102139
>>58102008
There wasn't much. It took me just over an hour to clear the Looker story and another 10 to max out the Maison. Also you cannot prove that people don't pay attention. All the people that I've met that consider XY the easiest have such an understanding of the game and it's mechanics that I'd trust them more than you.
Anonymous No.58102139 >>58102228 >>58102230
>>58102066
There is no “maxing out the maison” it’s infinitely replayable.

>Also you cannot prove that people don't pay attention
Yes I can.
Anonymous No.58102224
>>58100899 (OP)
she needed the shitty blacked out story to take 9/10th of the game
Anonymous No.58102228 >>58102230 >>58102303
>>58102139
When I say maxing out, I mean beating all the Chatelain battles on all formats.
Anonymous No.58102230
>>58102139
Alright then, prove that people don't pay attention.

>>58102228
*Chatelaine
Anonymous No.58102255
>>58101940
>>58101862
this sounds like something that'd make for a very fun fangame or romhack
Anonymous No.58102268
>>58100899 (OP)
>putted
like in golf?
Anonymous No.58102303 >>58102423
>>58102228
>I mean beating all the Chatelain battles on all formats
anon I hate to break this to you but you can keep playing the battle maison even after beating them. In fact, the game even rewards you for doing so.

>prove that people don't pay attention
the fact that you're retarded and didn't realize you can keep playing battle facilities is proof.
Anonymous No.58102329
He's just making shit up now lol
Anonymous No.58102423 >>58103355
>>58102303
I never said you can't keep playing facilities. You're the retard who can't read. I usually stop with facilities after beating all the bosses or collecting all the awards, because by then, it's boring as fuck.
Anonymous No.58103350
>>58102019
ngmi
Anonymous No.58103355 >>58103411
>>58102423
>there’s not enough postgame because I stopped playing the postgame!
compelling argument
Anonymous No.58103391 >>58103423
>>58101919
>Weird, I can't find how to access them
Maybe you should try playing the game.
Anonymous No.58103399 >>58103468
>the 10 hours of battle facilities wasn't enough for me because it's boring!!
>but if they added some maps that were pointlessly roadblocked from the campaign with nothing to do on them except sweep some piss easy trainers that I never have a reason to revisit THEN the postgame would be good!
kek postgamefags are so fucking retarded
Anonymous No.58103411 >>58103414
>>58103355
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that after completing every challenge in a facility, there's no reason to continue unless you're just farming shit. It gets boring really quickly.
Anonymous No.58103414 >>58103470
>>58103411
>I don't want to play the postgame so that means there's not enough postgame
compelling argument
Anonymous No.58103423 >>58103426
>>58103391
I've played the game, all the way to 100% completion. There's nothing in the game I haven't done. The things you mentioned aren't in the game.
Anonymous No.58103426 >>58103473
>>58103423
>The things you mentioned aren't in the game
they are
Anonymous No.58103441
>>58101917
borts try not to schiz out challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
Anonymous No.58103446
>>58101730
>XY would have been so much better had they gone all the way in and finished what they set out to do
This but with gen 5
Anonymous No.58103468 >>58103551 >>58110679
>>58103399
10 hours was all I needed to do everything in the Battle Maison. All Chatelaine battles, all rewards etc. I'd much rather have new locations with new Pokémon to see, trainers to battle and quests and side activities to complete.
It'd be even better to include both though. New things to do, plus an infinitely grindable battle facility. Unfortunately aside from one city and a couple of rooms with legendaries in them, XY didn't give us much. Imagine if the Essentia storyline took you to places you didn't have access to yet.
Anonymous No.58103470
>>58103414
Stop putting words into my mouth. I dud everything XY had to offer in about 85 hours.
Anonymous No.58103473 >>58103476
>>58103426
If they are, then how come I didn't find them at all?
Tell me how to access them.
Anonymous No.58103476 >>58103621
>>58103473
>If they are, then how come I didn't find them at all?
because you weren't paying attention, that is if you even played the games at all
Anonymous No.58103527
>>58100978
trvke
Anonymous No.58103551 >>58103621
>>58103468
>all rewards etc
Post a picture of your Starf Berry.

>It’d be even better to include both though
Good thing the game did that, then.
Anonymous No.58103560
>>58100899 (OP)
so true
Anonymous No.58103621 >>58104189
>>58103476
I was paying attention. The features you mentioned do not exist. If they do, then prove it, show me an ingame screenshot, or some footage.

>>58103551
>Post a picture of your Starf Berry.
Sorry if it's blurry. It's hard to get a clear image from an old 2DS on a phone.
>Good thing the game did that, then.
It included the most boring battle facility and like one town and a few rooms with legendaries or items in them.
Anonymous No.58103635 >>58103687
>It included [a good post game]
Glad we agree.
Anonymous No.58103687
>>58103635
It's not bad but it could be much better. Aside from Gen 1, maybe Gen 2 (depends on if you count Kanto as post game), it's pretty lackluster in overall content.
Anonymous No.58103690 >>58103742
>it could be much better
Literally every thing ever could be.
Anonymous No.58103742
>>58103690
Yes, I agree. But XY needs it the most among games in the series.
Anonymous No.58103743 >>58103755 >>58103757 >>58104868
>But [headcanon]
Anonymous No.58103755
>>58103743
>anything I disagree with is headcanon
Anonymous No.58103757
>>58103743
God you're retarded. Still waiting for you to explain what you're saying the game included.
Anonymous No.58103786 >>58105803
>ad hominem
Uh huh.
Anonymous No.58103798
>>58100899 (OP)
>imagine if they did a good game
Anonymous No.58103810 >>58110949
I don't care about south Kalos because it's literally just "bro imagine if the map was bigger"
What I want to see is the original ZX and ZY forms that got repurposed in 10% and 100% Zygarde, I want to see a more tonned down Perfect Zygarde and a giant, stronger and more elaborated wolf Zygarde
Anonymous No.58104189 >>58105833
>>58103621
>I was paying attention
evidently not

>The features you mentioned do not exist
what features don't exist?

>Sorry if it's blurry. It's hard to get a clear image from an old 2DS on a phone
now post a picture of the record you used to get it

>It included the most boring battle facility and like one town
the game has more than one town. Did you pay attention to the game?
Anonymous No.58104868
>>58103743
denialism is real
Anonymous No.58105671
>>58100899 (OP)
time constrains is a thing due by 3ds popular demand.
Anonymous No.58105685 >>58105836
>>58100969
But XY is already filled to the brim with useless unfun content not just in the post-game but also in the base game.
Anonymous No.58105803
>>58103786
Don't you do ad hominems all the time? Calling people retarded for not agreeing with you.
Anonymous No.58105833 >>58106011
>>58104189
>evidently not
Evidently so. Just because you're saying I've not been paying attention. You have no argument and are just saying that I don't pay attention, when I've done literally everything in the games. Tell me what features you're referring to that I seem to have missed, that all the online sources and guides have missed.

>what features don't exist?
More of Southern Kalos, actual difficulty etc. Things we've been talking about in this thread.

>now post a picture of the record you used to get it
Will do so once I get home.

>the game has more than one town. Did you pay attention to the game?
The specific context of the comment was the post game. You'd know if you actually paid attention. In the Post Game you only get Killoude City and a few rooms with legendaries in them.
Anonymous No.58105836 >>58106014
>>58105685
Indeed. It's side content is pretty shallow and boring. Only thing that was remotely complex was berry farming but even that was easy to figure out.
Anonymous No.58106011 >>58106089
>>58105833
>and are just saying that I don't pay attention
Because you didn't pay attention.

>More of Southern Kalos, actual difficulty etc
Both of these are in the game already.

>The specific context of the comment was the post game
Do the previous maps magically stop existing when you reach the postgame? I didn't know that.
Anonymous No.58106014 >>58106091
>>58105836
>It's side content is pretty shallow and boring
And somehow it's les shallow and boring than gen 5's side content.
Anonymous No.58106019
heh
Anonymous No.58106020 >>58106145
Why is sagetard such a bad arguer
Anonymous No.58106064 >>58106070 >>58106359 >>58106599
>>58101808
They literally said it was meant for XY initially, before they “cut” it for a “Z” version.
Anonymous No.58106070 >>58106078
>>58106064
>They [FANFIC]
Anonymous No.58106078 >>58106152
>>58106070
Nice try, but the documents are public now.
Anonymous No.58106089 >>58106180
>>58106011
>Because you didn't pay attention.
Prove it.
>Both of these are in the game already.
One city is hardly anything. There's absolutely no difficulty anywhere in XY. The only difficulty is finding the will to continue playing that boring slog.

>Do the previous maps magically stop existing when you reach the postgame? I didn't know that.
They don't and I never said, nor implied such a thing. But even then, there's very little to do in those places after the first times there.
Anonymous No.58106091
>>58106014
>And somehow it's les shallow and boring than gen 5's side content.
Saying that something that isn't true is true doesn't make it true.>>5810602
Anonymous No.58106145
>>58106020
Because Yawnfag projects his faults onto sagefag.
Anonymous No.58106152 >>58106196 >>58106289
>>58106078
Yep. There are also public documents saying that Gen 5 was supposed to have 20 more routes but they were cut because they had to rush the game out.
Anonymous No.58106180 >>58106289 >>58106302
>>58106089
>Prove it.
You claiming there isn't content in the game that exists.

>One city is hardly anything
Case in point: The game has more than one city.

>There's absolutely no difficulty anywhere in XY
Yes there is.

>and I never said, nor implied such a thing
You did.

> But even then, there's very little to do in those places
And yet somehow there's more to do in those places than Unova.
Anonymous No.58106196
>>58106152
not them but please show me this'll be hilarious no matter how it pans out
Anonymous No.58106289 >>58106755 >>58106763
>>58106152
Really? Where. Please show them.
>>58106180
>You claiming there isn't content in the game that exists.
Because the specifically mentioned content isn't real. There were no post game only routes, most of the story and content that was planned was cut.

>Case in point: The game has more than one city.
Yet again you didn't pay attention. I specified that there's only one new city in the post game.

>Yes there is.
Where? Name one battle that's hard.

>You did.
I did not. I also cannot see what I said that'd make you think that.

>And yet somehow there's more to do in those places than Unova.
No there isn't. Almost every town in Unova has something you can do upon subsequent visits, a lot of things are infinitely repeatable or daily events. Kalos puts almost everything into two towns.
Anonymous No.58106302 >>58106340 >>58106412
>>58106180
Yawnie!
I told not to act like an idiot online. You've gone and made look bad.
You are grounded mister. No more video games. I'm confiscating your phone. You're only 12, go to bed already.
Anonymous No.58106340
>>58106302
I kekked
Anonymous No.58106359
>>58106064
not them but please show me this'll be hilarious no matter how it pans out
Anonymous No.58106412 >>58106416
>>58106302
Sorry mom. Won't happen again.
Anonymous No.58106416
>>58106412
sorry kiddo, we don't believe you.
Anonymous No.58106518
Yawnie reminds me way too much of acfag in how absolutely retarded he is
Anonymous No.58106534
>>58100899 (OP)
Funny how all of this turned yawnfag into a galarvae just to have another region to bait and shitpost about
Anonymous No.58106599
>>58106064
Really? Where. Please show them.
Anonymous No.58106755
>>58106289
>Because the specifically mentioned content isn't real.
Yes it is.

>There were no post game only routes
I didn't know routes can magically only exist in the postgame. Weird.

>most of the story and content that was planned was cut
No it wasn't.

>I specified that there's only one new city in the post game
I didn't know new cities can magically only exist in the postgame. Weird.

>Where?
Sky Battles.

>I did not
Anonymous No.58106763 >>58106855 >>58106901
>>58106289
>Because the specifically mentioned content isn't real.
Yes it is.

>There were no post game only routes
I didn't know routes can magically only exist in the postgame. Weird.

>most of the story and content that was planned was cut
No it wasn't.

>I specified that there's only one new city in the post game
I didn't know new cities can magically only exist in the postgame. Weird.

>Where?
Sky Battles.

>I did not
You did.

>Almost every town in Unova has something you can do upon subsequent visits,
Not really.
Anonymous No.58106855
>>58106763
Yawnie, I told you to stop with this at once. Give me your phone right now.
Anonymous No.58106901 >>58107625 >>58108333
>>58106763
>Yes it is.
Then where's the post game routes?

>I didn't know routes can magically only exist in the postgame. Weird.
Not what I'm going with. They can. I'm specifically referring to new routes you can explore once the credits have rolled.

>No it wasn't.
Yes it was. Are you saying that absolutely everything they planned for XY made the cut?

>I didn't know new cities can magically only exist in the postgame. Weird.
How do I access Killoude City before the credits?

>Sky Battles
Really? Those are just *click super effective move* simulator. The AI for those trainers is terrible. There's one that has an Aerodactyl and it never used any super effective moves against my Emolga.

>You did.
Where?

>Not really.
Yes really. Play the fucking games.
Anonymous No.58107625
>>58106901
I have had a severe lapse of my judgement and did not pay attention.
Anonymous No.58107878 >>58107890
We should all just admit that Gen 5 and 6 are both bad and that Gen 7 clears the both of them!
Anonymous No.58107890 >>58108387
>>58107878
this but gen 9
Anonymous No.58108333 >>58108888
>>58106901
>Then where's the post game routes?
I didn't know routes can only exist in the post game. Weird.

>Not what I'm going with
Clearly it is since you keep screeching about postgame.

>I'm specifically referring to new routes you can explore once the credits have rolled
I didn't know routes can only exist after the credits roll. Weird.

>Are you saying that absolutely everything they planned for XY made the cut?
Yes.

>How do I access Killoude City before the credits?
You can't.

>Really?
Yes really.

>Those are just *click super effective move* simulator
And what if I don't have the super effective move?

>Where?
In this thread.

>Yes really. Play the fucking games.
Not really. Play the fucking games.
Anonymous No.58108387
>>58107890
I’d love to agree anon, in fact I’d definitely agree if we dont count dlc. But for me teal mask and the indigo disk felt like a let down.

At least it retconned ash greninja though!
Anonymous No.58108404
putteded*
Anonymous No.58108888 >>58109145
>>58108333
>I didn't know routes can only exist in the post game. Weird.
They can exist before the post game. In fact every route in the game can be accessed before the credits. But how do I access the routes that connect to Killoide City? You know, the ones only accessible post credits?

>Clearly it is since you keep screeching about postgame
Because that was the context this whole time. You're the one trying to move the goalposts.

>I didn't know routes can only exist after the credits roll. Weird.
They can. How am I supposed to access the Battle Zone in Sinnoh before beating Cynthia? How do I access eastern Unova before the credits in BW?

>Yes
Cool. The teraleaks say otherwise.

>You can't.
Exactly. Glad you're finally getting it.

>Yes really.
Where?

>And what if I don't have the super effective move?
Just use whatever moves you have. Very few of the Sky Trainers have anything that covers flying type weaknesses or anything that resists stab flying.

>In this thread.
Where in the thread. Give me a specific post.

>Not really. Play the fucking games.
Please stop parroting. It's much easier to just accept defeat. You've proven that you've never played the games. You probably desperately search Bulbapedia for something to use.
Anonymous No.58109145 >>58110390
>>58108888
>But how do I access the routes that connect to Killoide City?
By playing the rest of the game.

>Because that was the context this whole time
No it wasn't.

>How am I supposed to access the Battle Zone in Sinnoh before beating Cynthia?
How am I supposed to access Route 201 before beating Cynthia?

>The teraleaks say otherwise
No they don't.

>Exactly
Glad we agree maps can exist before and after the credits.

>Where?
In Sky Battles.

>Just use whatever moves you have
Ok I used whatever move I used, didn't KO the Aerodactyl, and died because I got crit Stone Edged. Thanks!

>Where in the thread
All your posts screeching about postgame pretending it's the only thing that exists for no reason.

>You've proven that you've never played the games
Stop projecting.
Anonymous No.58110371 >>58110391
yawnie was eternally mindbroken by the teraleak kek
Anonymous No.58110390 >>58110679
>>58109145
>By playing the rest of the game
I did. I literally spent 120hrs on 100%ing this game. There are no routes connecting to Killoude City.

>No it wasn't
Yes it was. Learn to read.

>How am I supposed to access Route 201 before beating Cynthia?
You can do that, because it was intended to be. It wasn't for the Battle Zone, yet the way you're carrying on is really odd.

>no they don't
Thanks for admitting that you never saw them

>Glad we agree maps can exist before and after the credits
We never disagreed. Though some maps are locked until after credits.

>In Sky Battles
I'm not seeing it.

>Ok I used whatever move I used, didn't KO the Aerodactyl, and died because I got crit Stone Edged. Thanks!
Weird. Were you stupid enough to bring an underleveled mon or something? Without even trying, my whole team was 10-15 levels above the Aerodactyl and I was able to OHKO, though even if I didn't and it, by some miracle actually clicked Stone Edge, I'd still survive, even a crit. If only this game didn't hand out exp.

>All your posts screeching about postgame pretending it's the only thing that exists for no reason.
Point out one example where I said that. Just one, that's all I need.

>Stop projecting.
You know literally nothing about these games. You have to project and claim that I'm the one projecting. You have no arguments. All you do is spread misinformation and spam ad hominems, though I doubt you know what those are.
Anonymous No.58110391
>>58110371
He was mindbroken even before. Just now he has no excuse. His shit won't fly anymore. We've got definitive proof that he's an idiot.
Anonymous No.58110679 >>58111811
>>58110390
>I did
Maybe you should do it while paying attention next time.

>There are no routes connecting to Killoude City
I didn't know routes can only exist by connecting to Kiloude City.

>Yes it was. Learn to read.
No it wasn't. Learn to read.

>You can do that, because it was intended to be
Glad we agree all the routes are intended to be reached in their locations.

>Thanks for admitting that you never saw them
Thanks for admitting you're making up a fanfic.

>We never disagreed
Yes we did, think you're a schizo who thinks only postgame maps exist.

>I'm not seeing it.
Yeah, because you played the entire game while not paying attention lmao

>Were you stupid enough to bring an underleveled mon or something?
No, the battle is just actually difficult, unlike gen 5 battles.

>Point out one example where I said that
>>58103468

>You know literally nothing about these games
Stop projecting.
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Anonymous No.58110949 >>58111198 >>58111220
>>58103810
zx is the dog
zy is the humanoid
you didn't miss anything
Anonymous No.58111198 >>58111220
>>58110949
Read again, anon. I know ZX and ZY got repurposed, but they are NOT literally the same forms we ended up getting. ZX and ZY were meant to be equally powerful superforms above Zygarde's snake form introduced in XY, there's no way the one on the left (small, skinny, simple, with just a small reddish pink gem on its neck) is how snake Zygarde's enhanced anti-Xerneas form looked like and there's no way the one on the right (rainbow-like light chest, wings representing both X and Y legendaries) is how snake Zygarde's enhanced anti-Yveltal form looked like.
Perfect Zygarde shouldn't have the rainbow chest and its wings shouldn't have both red and blue colors, given it's the form designed for Yveltal only, and 10% Zygarde should be way bigger, more muscular, more elaborated and have a color that tells you it's the form designed for Xerneas only.
Anonymous No.58111220
>>58111198
>>58110949
It's like if you said one of these (sorry for the pic for Joltik) was meant to be the Zekrom-based superform of Kyurem and the Reshiram-based one respectively. Clearly not, one is lesser Kyurem and the other is super Kyurem with traits of both legendaries, Reshiram and Zekrom.
That's exactly the thing here, 10% Zygarde was clearly tonned down from the original "ZX Zygarde" and Perfect Zygarde was slightly upgraded from the original "ZY Zygarde" and damn I want to see the original ones
Anonymous No.58111811 >>58112375
>>58110679
>Maybe you should do it while paying attention next time.
You know, you still haven't pointed out what I wasn't paying attention to. I paid full attention to the game. I read every line of dialogue and I completed every ingame activity, using multiple guides with checklists to ensure I did everything.

>I didn't know routes can only exist by connecting to Kiloude City.
Okay, now you're just being retarded. Of course not. I never said they can only be next to Killoude City, I was just asking how to access the rest of southern Kalos.

>No it wasn't. Learn to read.
And here we go with the parroting. You know you've got nothing, so you just throw bullshit like this.

>Glad we agree all the routes are intended to be reached in their locations.
We never did disagree. Though it did seem like you misinterpreted a few things.

>Thanks for admitting you're making up a fanfic.
You're saying the teraleaks are a fanfic?

>Yes we did, think you're a schizo who thinks only postgame maps exist.
I never said only post game maps exist. I said that there are certain maps that can only be accessed in post game. Killoude City is post game only.

>Yeah, because you played the entire game while not paying attention lmao
You think I just closed my eyes and mashed my way through the game? I mean it's that easy I could probably do that, but then I miss out on all the dialogue, which I enjoy reading.

>No, the battle is just actually difficult, unlike gen 5 battles.
And now you're projecting proven things to another gen that you've failed to prove.

>58103468 (You) #
That literally proves my point.

>Stop projecting.
You're the one projecting.
Anonymous No.58111817
>>58100899 (OP)
>putted
sage goes in all fields
Anonymous No.58111818
>>58100978
Ate
Anonymous No.58112375 >>58112430
>>58111811
>You know, you still haven't pointed out what I wasn't paying attention to
You know, you still haven't pointed out what content is missing.

>I was just asking how to access the rest of southern Kalos
By playing the rest of the game.

>You know you've got nothing
Stop projecting.

>Though it did seem like you misinterpreted a few things
I didn't misinterpret anything. It does seem like you didn't pay attention to the game though.

>You're saying the teraleaks are a fanfic?
I'm saying your claims are a fanfic.

>I never said only post game maps exist
And yet you're pretending only post game maps exist.

>You think I just closed my eyes and mashed my way through the game?
I think you didn't pay attention to the game.

>proven things to another gen
where

>That literally proves my point
No, it proves my point.

>You're the one projecting
Stop projecting.
Anonymous No.58112430 >>58112435 >>58112463 >>58112637 >>58112741
>>58112375
>You know, you still haven't pointed out what content is missing.
Southern Kalos. You know, the locations seem in the image OP provided that weren't in the final game? Aside from Killoude City, we got none of it.

>By playing the rest of the game.
I did play the rest of the game. The only part of southern Kalos I could access at all was Killoude City, which is also the only one that shows up on the map.

>Stop projecting.
You first

>I didn't misinterpret anything. It does seem like you didn't pay attention to the game though.
Your posts suggest otherwise.

>I'm saying your claims are a fanfic.
My claims are based on whats in the games and in any supporting documentation, which happens to include the tera leaks, which you seemto ignore.

>And yet you're pretending only post game maps exist.
I'm not. I never said, nor pretended only post game maps exist. I'm saying that there are some maps that can only be accessed during the post game.

>I think you didn't pay attention to the game.
So reading every single line of dialogue and completing every single bit of content is not paying attention?

>where
Most commonly Gen 5. Search the archives if you aren't disingenuous.

>No, it proves my point.
How so? Explain.

>Stop projecting.
Here we go again
Anonymous No.58112435 >>58112477 >>58112746
>>58112430
>Southern Kalos
You still haven't named the content in Southern Kalos that's missing.

>I did play the rest of the game
Evidently not.

>You first
I can't stop doing something I never started.

>Your posts suggest otherwise
No they don't.

>My claims are based on whats in the games
Evidently not.

>I'm not
You are.

>So reading every single line of dialogue and completing every single bit of content is not paying attention?
You clearly didn't do that.

>Most commonly Gen 5
There isn't any difficulty in Gen 5.

>How so?
The post is screeching about postgame content as if postgame content is the only thing that exists.

>Here we go again
Yes, because you keep doing it.
Anonymous No.58112463 >>58112746
>>58112430
Dude, just give up. He's retarded. He won't provide any answers.
Anonymous No.58112477 >>58112637 >>58112741
>>58112435
Dude, just give up. He's retarded. He won't provide any answers.
Anonymous No.58112632 >>58112697 >>58112712 >>58112712 >>58112715 >>58112717 >>58112739 >>58112745 >>58112747 >>58112751 >>58112758 >>58112761
>>58100899 (OP)
I've noticed that there is a disproportionate amount of dislike (or at least, indifference) towards the Kalos games. I can't pinpoint specifically where I've seen this dislike though, as it's just a general vibe that I got off of online communities and discussion sources.

The reception towards the XY games seems to be very lukewarm, for starters. I've rarely come across any praise for these games; and to add to that, most of the praise they do get has to do with the graphics, animations and the like - all of these being merely technical aspects of the game.

On the other hand, the storytelling aspects of the game tend to be heavily criticized - the most common complaints being the villain team, awkward implementation of the story, and the "bland/annoying" set of rivals. The difficulty level is also another gripe that a lot of people have with the game; and mega-evolution, despite being viewed as a welcome addition to the franchise for the most part, still remains a rather controversial one among fans. While I haven't seen that much distaste for the Pokémon introduced in this gen, they don't seem to be viewed in an especially praise-worthy light either, as far as I'm concerned.
Anonymous No.58112637
>>58112430
Do what >>58112477 says. Yawnfag doesn't give up. He's too stupid to know he's been defeated.
Anonymous No.58112697
>>58112632
>the most common complaints being the villain team, awkward implementation of the story, and the "bland/annoying" set of rivals
so it's a pokemon game?

>The difficulty level is also another gripe that a lot of people have with the game
so it's a pokemon game?
Anonymous No.58112712
>>58112632
>>58112632
Yes, I agree with the common criticisms with Team Flare, the story, the "rivals", the difficulty, and while I like Mega-Evolution as a concept I feel it went to some Pokemon who were already good and didn't need them, and while I have no problems with the Pokemon introduced they aren't very memorable, and thats not just because theirs less than 100 of them.
Anonymous No.58112715 >>58112745
>>58112632
The Pokemon are just okay. I don't have any real favorite from Kalos, but I guess there isn't any design that bothered me (except for Complete Forme, which was meant for the scrapped Pokémon Z but later moved to SM).

Likewise for the region - nothing all that memorable, except for Lumiose being annoying. Also, the overworld and chibi models are simply ugly for the most part.

The Mega Evolution trend (overpowered forms with largely forced designs) and poor story/characters are the biggest flaws. The anime capitalized on them, which didn't make matters any better.
Anonymous No.58112717 >>58112722
>>58112632
I actually liked Kalos quite a lot. I just loved the look and feel of the region, and it has some really great Pokemon designs (Aegislash, Chesnaught, Greninja, Trevenant, etc.)

The story was shit and the rivals were bland tho. That's just true.

BUT I will say that it's not that Kalos was bad so much as it felt incomplete.
Anonymous No.58112722
>>58112717
>>BUT I will say that it's not that Kalos was bad so much as it felt incomplete
This. That's why no one can actually explain how it's incomplete.
Anonymous No.58112739
>>58112632
I don't think X/Y were flat out bad. I do agree with some of the common complaints about the storyline and characters. I thought that the games were pretty lackluster in those departments. That would have been an issue regardless of when the games came out, but I felt like it stood out more when the fifth generation games had really good characters and storylines going for them. I still had fun playing through the games, exploring the Kalos region itself and most of the Pokemon from that generation had good designs. One reason I didn't mind the short amount of Pokemon was simply because most of the designs were pretty solid in my opinion.

I don't think that X/Y would rank high on my list of favorite Pokemon games, but they wouldn't be at the bottom either. At worst, I'd call them lackluster, but still enjoyable to play through in spite of my issues with the story. At the end of the day, I just want to have fun playing video games, so if I enjoy them, that can make up for some problems. It wouldn't get rid of them completely, but that can make some of the problems more tolerable if they still provide some enjoyment for me.
Anonymous No.58112741
>>58112477
Meant to reply to
>>58112430
Anonymous No.58112745 >>58112749 >>58112755
>>58112715
>>58112632
>AI slop
Anonymous No.58112746
>>58112463
Mean to reply to >>58112435
Anonymous No.58112747
>>58112632
Yeah, they weren't bad but there are two key factors that probably colour people's perception of the them:

1) They were following Black and White, regarded as having the best story/characters
2) They were the first core games on the 3DS

Compared to BW, the execution of XYs story was awkward and a little incoherent. They went from one gen with a story centred around the morality of human's relationship with Pokemon to a gen with a story centred around generic villainy. The legendaries were an afterthought. AZ, while potentially very interesting, wasn't used nearly enough. Meanwhile, none of your companions/rivals undergo any meaningful development in the same way Bianca and Cheren did.

The second point is more technical but as the game that marked the switch from sprites to 3D models, it did not leave a good first impression. The models for the human character in XY are just plain weird looking, nor did they move particularly well. The camera controls were awkward as well. Lumiose City was a travesty in that regard.

Gameplay was its strongest point but I did have issues with Pokemon overcrowding, with lots of old Pokemon making it harder to find the limited number of new Pokemon. I have mixed feelings about Mega Evolution - the concept is cool but its effect on gameplay can tilt things way too far in the player's direction.
Anonymous No.58112749 >>58112774
>>58112745
>anything I don't like is ai
That makes you retarded.
Anonymous No.58112751
>>58112632
No, they aren't that bad. The Pokemon distribution is great, in every route there is something new to find and crazy Pokemon routes. Who would've thought we would see Drifloon, Inkay, Zangoose, Seviper and Wingull in the same place? You can have a lot of team combinations without worrying about Pokemon with low chances to be found (with some exceptions).

The cities and routes of Kalos have great graphics and atmosphere, the dungeons have non-generic designs and it's easy to go from one point to another.

I don't need to mention the overall advantages gen VI had that got removed in Gen VII.

The dificulty is a legit complain, the Pokemon die too easily and some of them don't even have items or four moves. But the story, I don't know. The rivals are too friendly and a bit underdeveloped, but you can just spam A and grind on your own. Team Flare lacks appareances and some things weren't resolved with satisfaction, but they have a cohesive theme (compared to Plasma, which was literally Ninja Pirate Knight Zombie PETA Robot) and provide a few interesting reflexions on life and wealth.

They can't be decent or very enjoyable games depending on your priorities, personally I enjoyed them a lot.
Anonymous No.58112755 >>58112774
>>58112745
>anything I disagree with is ai, even if I have no way to prove it.
Anonymous No.58112758 >>58112761
>>58112632
X&Y were the worst core Pokémon games so far. The story pacing was really bad; since the first and second gyms are so far apart there is almost nothing to do for a huge chunk of the game. Rotes are also spread out and really bland with very little in the way of interesting battles. And not much in the way of interesting scenery or things to explore either.

Gyms have no teeth to them and the game knows it. Even with EXP share off anybody who has a basic understanding of type matchup’s can march into those gyms and walk out with a shiny badge for almost no effort. But being easy is only part of the problem, these gym leaders are unmemorable I only remember one of them at any given time. That’s because they have unmemorable Pokémon team, and nothing of interest to say.

The main villainous team was generic and not interesting at all I keep forgetting that team flare exists. Their leader whose name I don’t remember and can’t even be bothered to look up went on and on about his plans. Normally a bad or generic story in Pokémon games don’t bother me so much. But the game would not shut up about its story it went on and on for paragraphs about how odd and philosophical the main villain was trying to destroy everything to create his beautiful world. People always bring up the hand holding while bashing Sun/Moon but what about the un-skippable lectures that team flares leader gives every time his annoying face is on screen.

After all of this the post-game is just uggha, there really isn’t anything. People don’t seem to think Sun and Moon did enough but I think that it’s a firkin miracle it did so much after X&Y showed how little effort they were willing to put into a fun postgame.
Anonymous No.58112761
>>58112632
>>58112758
And it’s really such a shame too, because despite all this I really love the Pokémon that came out in gen 6. There are only a few that I felt didn’t live up to my standards and the one’s I liked I really, really liked. But it’s such a waste that all these good Pokémon got stuffed into gen 6 since many of them will never be able to live up to their full potential.

Most of the problems here apply to other games, but from my experience, XY do it the worst.
Anonymous No.58112767 >>58112773
>he's spamming the thread with AI responses now because he can't actually find any problems with XY
Anonymous No.58112773 >>58112779 >>58112791 >>58112795
>>58112767
1. How do you know it's AI and not spamming stuff from Bulbagarden forums? https://bulbagarden.net/threads/was-xy-really-that-bad.227562/
2. No difficulty even by Pokémon standards, boring dungeons, bland characters and story, mediocre dex, started the trend of being all up in your face with Kanto pandering, a lot of side content but most of it isn't worth doing.
Anonymous No.58112774 >>58112786
>>58112749
>>58112755
its literally from a chatbot you samefagging retard. no human puts that many hyphens in their post
Anonymous No.58112779 >>58112794
>>58112773
By the way, there's like 30 more threads like that one.
Anonymous No.58112786
>>58112774
I put hyphens in all the time. I say a lot of words that are hyphenated. My surname is.
Anonymous No.58112791 >>58112825
>>58112773
>2. No difficulty even by Pokémon standards,
that's every pokemon game

>boring dungeons
"boring" isn't an argument

>bland characters and story
that's every pokemon game

>started the trend of being all up in your face with Kanto pandering
"pokemon exist in a pokemon game" isn't an argument

> a lot of side content but most of it isn't worth doing.
"it's not worth doing because I said so" isn't an argument
Anonymous No.58112794
>>58112779
and plenty in other places.
https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/34hjyi/why_do_some_people_think_xy_are_awful/
https://www.quora.com/Why-do-some-people-hate-on-Pokemon-X-Y-so-much
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wattpad.com/amp/1376180413
https://youtu.be/90emJ5n0dFs
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/187276-pokemon-sun/74635864?page=4
https://forums.serebii.net/threads/what-do-you-dislike-about-xy-possible-spoilers.659602/
Anonymous No.58112795 >>58112837
>>58112773
it's hard to take these criticisms seriously when all these exact same problems exist in DPPt yet the same retards screeching about XY think it's the peak of the series

pokemon arguments always boil down to "I grew up with it so it's good and I didn't grew up with it so it's bad"
Anonymous No.58112825 >>58112831 >>58112978
>>58112791
>that's every pokemon game
I agree that all Pokémon games are easy, but XY is by far the easiest. Compare any Gym Leader in XY to their counterparts in other gens and you'll see why.

>"boring" isn't an argument
Would bland work better? There's very little to the dungeons and routes. Most are boring and simple, or have shitty traversal mechanics. Only somewhat decent route was 20.

>that's every pokemon game
At least they tried with other gens. There's a reason why the characters in other gens are all memorable. Aside from a handful of characters, most of XY's cast is forgettable. There's a surprisingly high amount of people who think Emma and Mabel are new characters in ZA, that's how forgettable they are.

>"pokemon exist in a pokemon game" isn't an argument
But when they shove Kanto references in your face at the expense of other regions (particularly the newly introduced mons)

>"it's not worth doing because I said so" isn't an argument
Because very few things are fun or rewarding. Most of it is just boring slop. Only actually fun thing was Super Training.
Anonymous No.58112831 >>58112839 >>58112843 >>58112959
>>58112825
>Compare any Gym Leader in XY to their counterparts in other gens and you'll see why
what am I missing here
Anonymous No.58112837 >>58112840 >>58112975 >>58112982
>>58112795
A lot of them do apply yes, but majority are straight up worse in XY, like the pandering. Aside from a good chunk of cavemons being Kanto mons, and two of Roark's Pokémon being the same that Brock used, there's very little and most of it isn't shoved in your face, but rather just there if you find it. If anything it panders to Johto just as much.
Anonymous No.58112839 >>58112844
>>58112831
I skipped half the trainers in XY and without grinding I was consistently 15+ levels higher. I have no idea how much stronger I'd be if I fought them all.
Anonymous No.58112840 >>58112931
>>58112837
> like the pandering
that’s weird I don’t remember every map in XY being spammed with geodude zubat and machop
Anonymous No.58112843 >>58112847
>>58112831
I assume you're fighting Brycen? Compare him to Olympia, compare the movesets and the wildmon options.
Anonymous No.58112844 >>58112935
>>58112839
Oh…so it’s exactly like gen 5 then
Anonymous No.58112847 >>58112949
>>58112843
>beat brycen by clicking A 3 times
>beat olympia by clicking A 3 times
what am I missing here?
Anonymous No.58112931
>>58112840
No but almost ever map and/or trainer had at least one mon that is from Kanto, or evolves into/from a Kanto mon. There's a static Snorlax encounter that requires a Pokéflute, just like Kanto, you're forced to take Kanto starters and the free Mega Stone to Mega Evolve their final form. First wild encounter is hard coded to always be a Pidgey, which CANNOT be avoided, Pikachu getting its anime cry for whatever reason, tons of small text references, Santalune Forest being an exact copy of Viridian Forest, even down to the wild encounters (plus the Unova Monkeys iirc). This is way more than any gen before it and most lf these cases are unavoidable, if you wanna beat the game, you HAVE to see them.
Anonymous No.58112935 >>58112962
>>58112844
No? I fought every trainer with just one mon and was at most, 6 levels higher. XY I was easily 15+, even when swapping around team members.
Anonymous No.58112949 >>58112959
>>58112847
Depends on the first move. Most likely at least one of Brycen's Pokémon will at least tank a hit, unless you specifically picked Tepig or caught one of the Steel, Rock, Fire or Fighting mons.

Olympia you will most likely one shot all three of her mons regardless. Her Pokémon are frail and even when you're trying not to, you end up overleveled.
Anonymous No.58112959
>>58112949
>Most likely at least one of Brycen's Pokémon will at least tank a hit
No? >>58112831
Anonymous No.58112962
>>58112935
Yes? I fought every trainer with just one mon and was at least, 15 levels higher.
Anonymous No.58112975 >>58113363 >>58113924
>>58112837
>there's very little and most of it isn't shoved in your face,
Anonymous No.58112978 >>58113384
>>58112825
>but XY is by far the easiest
How is clicking A three times easiest compared to clicking A three times?

>Would bland work better?
No.

>There's very little to the dungeons and routes
That's every Pokemon game.

>At least they tried with other gens
No they didn't.

>I-I CAN'T REMEMBER THEM
Not an argument.

>But when they shove Kanto references in your face at the expense of other regions
"I'm assblasted the regions I like didn't get enough attention" isn't an argument.

>particularly the newly introduced mons
Do the old Pokemon prevent me from catching the new Pokemon or something? What the fuck are you talking about?

>Because very few things are fun or rewarding
"I didn't find it fun" isn't an argument.
Anonymous No.58112982 >>58113388
>>58112837
>but majority are straight up worse in XY
not really

>like the pandering
the pandering is 100% worse in DPPt because the gameplay is almost entirely just being interrupted with kanto random encounters, dumbfuck
Anonymous No.58113363 >>58113924
>>58112975
Oh look wild Pokémon. Those can be avoided with Repels, unlike the mandatory Snorlax.
Anonymous No.58113384 >>58113388 >>58113458 >>58113924
>>58112978
>How is clicking A three times easiest compared to clicking A three times?
Because not every battle is clicking A a few times. XY is the only game where every battle is just spamming A, and maybe occasionally swapping moves if your first move is Normal type and you're fighting a Ghost type.

>No
Why not?

>That's every Pokemon game.
But not to the extent of XY

>No they didn't.
Yes they did. Saying "nuh uh" isn't an argument if you can't back it up.

>Not an argument.
It shows how forgettable the characters are, especially compared to other gens. If I didn't replay Y recently, I wouldn't remember who Ramos or Olympia were. I've never had this happen with any other gen. Heck I haven't played Gens 3, 5, 7 and 8 at all for the last couple of years.

>"I'm assblasted the regions I like didn't get enough attention" isn't an argument.
It isn't. That wasn't my argument. The argument was that they're constantly shoving Kanto in your face. This is where it started getting out of hand, sure all previous games did it quite a bit, but nowhere to the extent that the new Pokémon get very little time to shine.

>Do the old Pokemon prevent me from catching the new Pokemon or something? What the fuck are you talking about?
It doesn't prevent you from catching new Pokémon. Why would it? It just makes them harder to find in a lot of cases.

>"I didn't find it fun" isn't an argument.
Why would it be? There's no reason to do 90% of the side activities in XY because very few things offer anything of value that you can't get anywhere else even easier.
Anonymous No.58113388 >>58113458 >>58113924
>>58112982
>>58113384
>not really
Saying 'not really' isn't a compelling argument. It just makes it sound like you can't accept reality.

>the pandering is 100% worse in DPPt because the gameplay is almost entirely just being interrupted with kanto random encounters, dumbfuck
There's just as many Johto, Hoenn and Sinnoh encounters in Sinnoh. It's just that most of the cave encounters are Kanto mons. Look at the routes, majority of the wild encounters aren't Kanto mons. In XY, almost every area has at least one Kanto mon, tons of mandatory encounters and references and even more optional ones. If you think Sinnoh has more Kanto pandering, you're delusional. Aside from the wild encounters and trainers and an occasional mention there's very little, and most of it isn't shoved in your face.
Anonymous No.58113458 >>58113513
>>58113384
>>58113388
Name one battle in BW that isn't just clicking A.
Anonymous No.58113467
>>58100899 (OP)
They should include Pokemon Andorra here!
Anonymous No.58113500 >>58113515
>58113458
>BW out of nowhere
Subtle, but not nearly enough to warrant a (You)
Anonymous No.58113513 >>58113515 >>58113523 >>58113926
>>58113458
NTA but here's my opinion
Lenora
Her Watchog is almost guaranteed to oneshot with Retaliate. It almost always tanks at least one hit as well. The only mons that can reliably tank it also don't do too much damage from experience.

Elesa
There's not many Pokémon you can have at that point that'll be able to hit the Emolga super effectively that can tank its hits. There is Drilbur but there's no guarantee you'll run into it, it took me almost 30 min to get one from the dust clouds in Wellspring Cave, by the time you get to Elesa there's a decent chance it'll have Rock Slide.

Drayden/Iris
The Haxorus can easily sweep you if you don't OHKO it and aren't massively overleveled.

N
If you choose to use your dragon, your best bet is spamming Dragon Breath to KO his. It usually takes 2 hits, though may take three. Otherwise your best chance is to lead with a strong Ground type move.

Ghetsis
He's just kinda strong. Cofagrigus can shut down any useful abilities, Hydreigon, Seismitoad and Bouffalant have a lot of coverage and likely won't go down in one hit. Hydreigon in particular can outspeed like 80% of the mons you bring to the fight.
Anonymous No.58113515
>>58113513
Just warranted a (You)
>>58113500
Anonymous No.58113523
>>58113513
Actually good points. It's been awhile since I played BW but now I'm remembering.
Anonymous No.58113924
>>58113363
>DUDE JUST USE REPELS THE WHOLE GAME LMAO
And now the game is -actually- designed at the expense of new Pokemon, because now I'll never see them, unlike the schizo shit you're accusing XY of doing.

>>58113384
>Because not every battle is clicking A a few times.
Yes it is.

>Why not?
Why?

>But not to the extent of XY
Yes to the extent of XY.

>Yes they did. Saying "nuh uh" isn't an argument if you can't back it up.
No they didn't. Saying "yuh huh" isn't an argument if you can't back it up.

>It shows how forgettable the characters are
I can remember them fine. This isn't an argument.

>The argument was that they're constantly shoving Kanto in your face
Except they aren't. DPPt is constantly shoving Kanto in your face because the game is literally constantly interrupting you with Kanto random encounters.

>It just makes them harder to find
No it doesn't.

>There's no reason to do 90% of the side activities in XY
There's a reason to do 100% of the side activities in XY because all offer a lot of things of value that you can't get anywhere else even easier.

>>58113388
>Saying 'not really' isn't a compelling argument. It just makes it sound like you can't accept reality.
Saying 'yes really' isn't a compelling argument. It just makes it sound like you can't accept reality.

>There's just as many Johto, Hoenn and Sinnoh encounters in Sinnoh
>>58112975
Anonymous No.58113926 >>58113940
>>58113513
>the retard who thinks BW is challenging is a campaignshitter who thinks pokemon can only take damage from super-effective hits
checks out
Anonymous No.58113940 >>58113941 >>58113942
>>58113926
Nowhere did he say BW was "challenging", schizo. So far, everyone more or less agrees that no Pokémon game is truly "challenging", just that some are even easier than others. Don't deliberately twist what other people are saying because your hate-boner for BW makes it live in your head rent-free.
Anonymous No.58113941 >>58113945
>>58113940
>no you don't get it the toddler game where you click A against the gym leader 3 times is easier than the toddler game where you click A against the gym leader 3 times
Anonymous No.58113942
>>58113940
screeching about XY being easy implies you think the previous games weren't easy
Anonymous No.58113945 >>58113951
>>58113941
Both games are easy, and XY is even easier than BW. No amount of "NUH-UH" and moving goalposts will change that. Keep crying.
Anonymous No.58113951
>>58113945
>no you don't get it the toddler game where you click A against the gym leader 3 times is even easier than the toddler game where you click A against the gym leader 3 times
Anonymous No.58113958
>keeps proving my point
I accept your concession
Anonymous No.58113966
>keeps proving my point
I accept your concession