Thread 58100981

Pokemon was ruined from the beginning.
Many such cases.

>>58100981 (OP)
There's a new example of this.
Beta Gen 3 revealed Vibrava had a different pre-evo and Trapinch existed separately.

>>58100981 (OP)
If butterfree was green this never would have been a thing.

>>58100981 (OP)
I do agree they obviously changed it during development because a butterfly coming out of metamor makes more sense than a moth
but they did this fucking DECADES ago my man. EVERYBODY here has seen your image. what are you trying to achieve with this thread

>>58100981 (OP)
Paras and Venomoth have the exact same eyes, they're clearly supposed to be part of the same line.

>>58101013
That just tells how uninteresting Gen 1 designs were

>>58101023
Don't know about you, but I like it when a single games designs' belong together

>>58101027
It's boring though... I can see why someone would like Gen 1's simplicity, but its just not for me

>>58100981 (OP)
GF already confirmed this isn't true.

>>58101117
Actually, it's confirmed
>“#87. Venonat: Their eyes serve as radars that let them stay active in darkness. The eyes also emit beams of light. They have been confirmed to be a Bug type. They appear to have the potential for evolution, but it remains a mystery.”
>“#83. Venomoth: The wings are covered in powdery, toxic scales. With every flap of their wings, they scatter the scales in clouds. They are said to live in the Safari Zone. However, they are difficult to find due to their small population. Their larval and pupal stages are shrouded in mystery.”

Actual example of this is Wartortle's evolution being cut for Blastoise who got its baby form cut and Dragonite being designed before Dratini and Dragonair. It's actually shown by the Gen I Index numbers, which have the Caterpie line in a straight line with no space in-between

This has the same basis as Ilima is a Fairy type trainer because he looks like a faggot. Some Pokemon fans get held up on the dumbest shit

>>58101139
No anon, GF was asked about it, they said they didn't even realize they looked similar.

>>58101177
GF is not one person

>>58100981 (OP)
brain blast

>>58101177
That never happened. Only once someone asked about Ditto being clone of Mew and Masuda said he never heard of it. You problaby thinking of that

>>58101160
Index is just where they were put in the game code. They could've swapped them around anyway.

>>58101160
as the world's number 1 normal type enthusiast i can't help but notice that you left out the context of mina also looking like a normal type specialist, which is definitely true. i think her an ilima being switched at some point in development is within the bounds of reasonable speculation.

>>58101255
There's literally zero reason to "swap around" data in an index, if they did that then all other evolutions would be near each other and it wouldn't be full of missingnos

>>58101255
Dev doesn't work that way, there's a reason Morimoto got in hot water for inserting Mew in the first place because the game could have legitimately become unplayable if Mew broke the game. And Mew was inserted in the first available MissingNo. slot in the game. What >>58101281 said applies. They were haphazardly inserting stuff as they went along and just yoinked it out of the code if it went unused because swapping code means you also have to make sure to check for all possible references to that index check for the right index otherwise you end up with the Burn Heal Ball in Gen II

>>58101267
Again, dev notes outright confirm it was never intended to be the case. Just people looking for shit that isn't there because of their own paranoia. There are examples of this though, like Wally was supposed to be the 7th Gym Leader and was replaced by Tate & Liza

>>58101281
you can just swap pokemon's image, it won't break anything

>>58101367
>Dev doesn't work that way, there's a reason Morimoto got in hot water for inserting Mew in the first place because the game could have legitimately become unplayable if Mew broke the game.
because he did it after all debugging

>>58101398
>Just swap the image lol

Why would they do that? That's even more arbitrary than swapping code, all of the mons were done as pixel art first before Sugimori did the concept art interpretation

>>58101398
Butterfree and Venomoth's sprites are even stored in the same GFX bank since their index numbers are close enough. So you can swap their sprites around without even affecting the GFX banks' individual file sizes.

>>58101679
That gives me a stupider theory that Caterpie was designed to be a pre-evo for Venomoth, but someone forgot and added a new butterfly design immediately afterwards meaning Venomorth got divorced from its intended lineage and they stitched it onto Venonat later. Keep in mind all of their JP names are pretty much irrelevant to each other so there's no theme naming like with other evolutionary lines

>Caterpie
>Transel (Metapod)
>Butterfree
>Konpan (Venonat)
>Morphon (Venomoth)