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Anonymous No.58117380 >>58117385 >>58117817 >>58117876 >>58117896 >>58117912 >>58118109 >>58118120 >>58118792 >>58119104 >>58119936 >>58120413 >>58120931 >>58122503 >>58124507 >>58125377 >>58125390 >>58128124
>The battle system, as originally revealed, is different from past traditional main series games in that it has a real-time system. You can send a Pokémon out at any time and when locked on to a Pokémon, a display will appear in the bottom right, this is your move selection. Rather than selecting each move through a menu, it instead is done with the face buttons on the controller with each button corresponding to a move the Pokémon has, so the B Button will be one move, the X button another and so forth. The moves are then done on a cooldown before it can be used again, so you could rapidly unleash an onslaught of moves but it will then mean you have a bit of a wait time and your Pokémon will be vulnerable.

>They will also follow you as you walk around and some moves can be commanded from a further distance while others will have the Pokémon move up to the opponent. However that does mean that the Pokémon may not necessarily go precisely where you want them to, but they will keep close to you where possible.

>This made the battles feel more dynamic and akin to what has been seen in the animated series in the past but still felt very Pokémon. Alongside damaging moves you have status moves such as Growl which can be used in various ways. While the demo showed the early part of the game, I can already see there will be need for good strategy here in later game rather than just mash damage buttons repeatedly. Status conditions were also in and Poison damage even persisted after the battle while my Fletchling was out

>Switching Pokémon is done with the D-Pad at any time, you scroll through left and right and you select with up. In addition to that, you can run with the B button and roll with the Y Button.

>Unlike Pokémon Legends: Arceus, this game has hold items in it as well so you can attach items to Pokémon for various effects. The ones I saw in the demo were just Berries but this leaves things open for more.
Anonymous No.58117385 >>58118792
>>58117380 (OP)
>With this demo, I got to get a look at the battle system for Trainer battles. In the Z-A Royale, I was given the task of defeating three trainers in order to earn points and a Challengers Ticket in order to access the Royale.

>As this was early game, the trainers were fairly simple with a Weedle, Bunnelby and Bellsprout so they were fairly simple to beat but gave a good look at the battle system. Being able to sneak up on trainers really gives an advantage, but when you're the recipient of it, it can be devastating; alongside the three trainers there was a fourth that was nearly 10 levels higher than my Pokémon. I hoped to bruteforce it but they snuck up on me and wiped out all of my Pokémon in one hit with me not dealing much damage.

>The second part of the demo was a Rogue Mega Evolution battle. In this segment, I chased Zygarde 10% Forme throughout Lumiose City until it took me to a rooftop where an Absol was. It started to Mega Evolve on its own causing AZ to send a Lucario with a Mega Ring up to help.

>This battle is reminiscent of the Noble Pokémon battles and battles with Arceus from Legends Arceus in that you're in an area with the Pokémon going for you. More than your Pokémon, the Absol went for me and could knock me out which would cause me to lose the battle. It had moves of both close range and distance so you need to act accordingly.

>As moves land on the Absol, it starts to drop some energy orbs. These are picked up in order to charge your Mega Gauge which, once full enough, allows for you to Mega Evolve. This allows for you to do even more damage but the gauge will gradually deplete so it is only for a limited time but Absol does drop more the more damage you inflict so in theory you could keep it Mega Evolved until defeating.
Anonymous No.58117388 >>58118792
>Though Absol was a low level Rogue Mega Evolution, there was still more strategy involved. I made sure to Protect as it used Dark Pulse which, in this battle, causes multiple hits when Lucario was stuck in the wave, I used Aura Sphere to attack in the distance and Rock Smash to lower Defense followed by Bullet Punch for a quick hit. Eventually I managed to defeat the Absol

>These battles are likely to get more difficult so I am really excited to play more.

>Final Thoughts
>While playing, the game ran super smooth and it looked great. In the segment before Rogue Mega Absol, I got a look around the city and it looked great and how I imagined Lumiose City being while playing Pokémon X & Y back in 2013. It was such a fun play and it really has me wanting to play more. It's still early and hard to say how well the new systems will work in an overall game but what I played here seems like it's a cool new evolution of the Pokémon Legends formula. It has me wanting to go back and that's always a good sign; it's new and fresh but still quintessentially Pokémon.

>If you are at the Pokémon World Championships or Gamescom and you have the opportunity to play, give it a shot.

>Version Tested: Nintendo Switch 2
>Footage captured with: Off-screen
Anonymous No.58117396
Is that you Merricku?
Anonymous No.58117400 >>58117940
Confirmed you can mega multiples times in the same battle
Anonymous No.58117432
Game map
Anonymous No.58117436 >>58117556 >>58118044 >>58119308 >>58120270 >>58121861
Monletcario even more of a monlet compared to AZ
Anonymous No.58117438 >>58117805
Is it possible for someone to datamine this demo?
Anonymous No.58117441 >>58117532 >>58117572 >>58119041
-If a trainer attacks when you aren’t looking, the opponent gets that free first attack, and is also a critical hit.
-Targeting by holding the ZL button and then press the face buttons to tell your Pokémon which move to use.
Anonymous No.58117467 >>58117490
Anything about abilities?
Anonymous No.58117490
>>58117467
No abilities bro
Anonymous No.58117519
There's a 20 minute long sex scene with Emma too but sadly this is a blue board so no pics
Anonymous No.58117532
>>58117441
>didn't show the whole thing
Fuck this drip feed shit.
Anonymous No.58117556
>>58117436
6ft vs 5'11
Anonymous No.58117572 >>58117592 >>58117603 >>58117605 >>58120918
>>58117441
Only 74 pokemon in the game lol
Anonymous No.58117592
>>58117572
>bellsprout is the last pokemon in the dex
Anonymous No.58117603
>>58117572
you're a complete fucking retard if you think Bellsprout is the last Pokemon in the dex
Anonymous No.58117605 >>58119940 >>58127637
>>58117572
Anonymous No.58117805
>>58117438
not without stealing the console/cart
Anonymous No.58117817 >>58118154 >>58118154 >>58121582
>>58117380 (OP)
One thing I hate is that I don't know all the TM's yet for legends ZA. I fear that Mewtwo, Rayquaza, Latios and Latias won't even be able to be transferred to the game.
Anonymous No.58117876
>>58117380 (OP)
>Poison damage even persisted after the battle while my Fletchling was out
based, I missed statuses actually mattering outside of battle
>alongside the three trainers there was a fourth that was nearly 10 levels higher than my Pokémon. I hoped to bruteforce it but they snuck up on me and wiped out all of my Pokémon in one hit with me not dealing much damage.
do we think joe is just shit at the game, or do we think it'll actually have a bit of challenge? I remember getting attacked by alphas a few times in early PLA and it feeling like an "escape or die" scenario, which was kind of cool
Anonymous No.58117896
>>58117380 (OP)
>The new games suck, again
You have had over 27 years to finally try and learn how to make a Pokémon game, and you STILL fail.
Anonymous No.58117912
>>58117380 (OP)
Gameplay looks boring. I think, i'll pass z-a. It literally is Xenoblade battle system, but even easier one
Anonymous No.58117940
>>58117400
This is probably only for the Rogue battles, since they drop mega energy.
Anonymous No.58117941 >>58117947 >>58117997 >>58118005
The most visible gameplay clips I've found for the demo so far
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UgKGcDJ01o
https://x.com/JPRPT98/status/1956390203293077681

A few things weren't mentioned so far in this thread
>You can call back your Pokémon towards your position during rogue fights and this can be used to dodge
>Battle items have a cooldown between uses
>Megas have a lower cooldown when using moves
>String Shot lowers the movement speed implying that affects Pokémon movement speed
Anonymous No.58117947 >>58117997
>>58117941
implying that the speed stat affects Pokémon movement speed*
Anonymous No.58117975 >>58118098
Chikorita usually learns Growl and Razor Leaf but here it has Tail Whip and Leafage instead. I don't remember if we saw this difference in a trailer.
Anonymous No.58117997
>>58117941
>>58117947
>speed stat affects pokemon movement speed
reaction time tards btfo
Anonymous No.58118005 >>58118162 >>58120263
>>58117941
I fucking knew it, the most optimal way to play is going to boil down entirely to using speedsters with Megas and low-cooldown moves so you can just "lol dodge" everything while whittling the enemy down.
Anonymous No.58118044 >>58118051 >>58118081
>>58117436
I like Lucario but this is lame
Anonymous No.58118051
>>58118044
AZ is a giant
Anonymous No.58118081
>>58118044
What is lame? Lucario didn't get any smaller, retard.
Anonymous No.58118090
Even better gameplay footage
https://youtu.be/xTbBSDeOKck
Anonymous No.58118098
>>58117975
Mons had different learnsets in PLA too, nothing surprising here
Anonymous No.58118109
>>58117380 (OP)
Did they show mega starmie, I've been postponing my suicide to see it
Anonymous No.58118120
>>58117380 (OP)
Hoping that at least the non-Legends mainline games stick to turn based battles, because I'm really not sure if I'm feeling this battle system at all. But I am biased towards turn based stuff in general, so I'm very much willing to admit that's probably why.
Shit taste, I know.
Anonymous No.58118154 >>58118160
>>58117817
>>58117817
The Hoenn legends are probably out because lore. Latios, Latias and Mewtwo are just very weird pokemon so I doubt they willl be out, specially Mewtwo given he was originally in XY
Anonymous No.58118160
>>58118154
Latios and Latias were used by the chatelaines so they might have a shot
Anonymous No.58118162
>>58118005
>moving fast and not being hit is important
So the same as usual
Anonymous No.58118196 >>58118362 >>58118413
Anonymous No.58118362 >>58118369
>>58118196
>the very simple main objective takes up twice as much space as the Pokémon themselves
I feel like there’s a pompous metaphor in there somewhere for the current state of the franchise
Anonymous No.58118369 >>58118556
>>58118362
It's almost like that window is big so it can store more text than less than ten words huh?
Anonymous No.58118398 >>58118492
>arrive at Paris
>first thing that happens to you is being robbed
KEK, they remember suffering the Paris syndrome I guess
Anonymous No.58118401 >>58118446 >>58118470 >>58118564 >>58120372
Origin mark of LZ-A is the megaevolution symbol in the same fashion SV's is the Terastal symbol
Anonymous No.58118405 >>58118470
100% confirmed, no abilities
Anonymous No.58118413 >>58118450
>>58118196
If I need all the pokemon in the pokedex or if the quest for Zygarde is tedious, then I'll just stick with the one I got from moon version.
Anonymous No.58118433 >>58118437 >>58119408
Anonymous No.58118437 >>58119408
>>58118433
Anonymous No.58118446 >>58120290
>>58118401
I wish the origin mark was prism tower or a Z instead
Anonymous No.58118448 >>58119408
Anonymous No.58118450
>>58118413
>>58118351
Anonymous No.58118470 >>58119408
>>58118401
>>58118405
Z-A is confirmed using the same stat and experience calculation formula as the main games. This Chikorita has minimum speed IVs, 15 to 26 attack and rest of stats are between 27-31.
Anonymous No.58118490 >>58118515 >>58118529 >>58119408
We saw Mega Lopunny in the latest trailer but here's regular Lopunny too. They weren't available wild in XY
Anonymous No.58118492
>>58118398
Are there ribbons and marks?
Anonymous No.58118515
>>58118490
this looks like a trainer's Lopunny, but I imagine wild buneary will be a thing
Anonymous No.58118525 >>58118543 >>58124380
Looks like each wild zone lists all the catchable pokemon and you get a crown for completing the zone. You can see a crown counter on the top right
Anonymous No.58118529
>>58118490
Its standing next to a trainer, it's not "wild" its a battle waiting to happen
Anonymous No.58118543 >>58120360
>>58118525
Just like DexNav in ORAS
Anonymous No.58118556 >>58118571 >>58118621
>>58118369
What fucking objective in a Pokémon game needs more than ten words to explain? Can you name a single one?
Anonymous No.58118564
>>58118401
What retard had the idea to obfuscate sizes behind letters instead of just giving you the exact measurements like in Arceus? Are they actively trying to make every game worse than the last?
Anonymous No.58118571
>>58118556
>Stop the multiple rogue mega-evolved pokemon rampaging over the city!
Wow that was hard
Anonymous No.58118604 >>58118609 >>58120297
I guess the five plazas correspond to five districts to divide the city
Anonymous No.58118609
>>58118604
Lumiose was already divided into 5 parts in XY, all these names come from there too.
Anonymous No.58118621
>>58118556
>What fucking objective in a Pokémon game needs more than ten words to explain?
lmao
Anonymous No.58118644 >>58119408
Anonymous No.58118650 >>58118668 >>58118674 >>58119134 >>58119331 >>58120774
Stats increase now last a fixed amount of time so say goodbye to setting up against a weak mon and then sweep the rest of the enemy's team. Learning moves also seem to work like in LA
Anonymous No.58118668
>>58118650
debuffs are the same way, the only question is whether or not they stack

Its more like SV with the free switching out of moves anytime, both TM and learnset
Anonymous No.58118670
The guy tried to destroy these rocks with moves but turns out that's not how the mechanic works so I guess you can not only take your pokemon out anytime (like in Arceus) but also command it to use moves anywhere, anytime?
Anonymous No.58118674 >>58118677 >>58118756
>>58118650
There's dots right on the side of your Pokémon showing each of the stats risen/fallen. As you expect, accuracy and evasion don't exist in this game in any shape.
Anonymous No.58118677 >>58118706 >>58118756
>>58118674
Also, the dots disappear if your Pokémon is completely neutral
Anonymous No.58118685 >>58119408
Victory screen
Anonymous No.58118698
Enemy's team
Anonymous No.58118706 >>58128506
>>58118677
>only shows up if relevant
Good UI design? In Pokemon?
Anonymous No.58118708
Pussy screen
Anonymous No.58118722 >>58118750
Medals are just... money?
Anonymous No.58118732 >>58118749
I have no idea what the fuck is this about
Anonymous No.58118745
Anonymous No.58118749
>>58118732
this was detailed after the march trailer. Basically in later battle zones you can pick up cards with specific tasks for you(ie kill 2 mons with ice moves) and doing so gets you more medals/points
Anonymous No.58118750
>>58118722
we don't know what they are used for yet, my theory is that they get converted to pokedollars at the end of the night
Anonymous No.58118756
>>58118674
>>58118677
Same for bosses
Anonymous No.58118765
Using an item puts a timer on you so you can't spam items all the time, use a lot of cheap items to make up for one good one, etc, nice
Anonymous No.58118776 >>58118795
Healing items, pokeballs, berries, other items, TMs, treasures and key items, weird there's no designated pocket for megastones like Z-crystals in Alola, considering there are like 70 different ones in this game
Anonymous No.58118791 >>58118799 >>58118814 >>58118907
Anonymous No.58118792 >>58118815
>>58117380 (OP)
>>58117385
>>58117388
I just saw the demo Joe did and if his words have any weight He a fucking terrible player, I want to see him play a Palworld Raid or Boss.
Joe DSP is better than you and he'll play it better than you, now you have a goal to beat.
Anonymous No.58118795
>>58118776
The Mega stones pocket might be unlocked after you get Absolite
Anonymous No.58118799
>>58118791
Anonymous No.58118814 >>58118907
>>58118791
>her pov
Anonymous No.58118815
>>58118792
Please excuse Joe, the last time he's ever played a game with real-time battles to the extent that LZA has was 14 years ago.
Anonymous No.58118907
>>58118814
>>58118791
It's so weird seeing Emma interacting with Zygarde in canon when it was introduced in Special
Anonymous No.58118934
My wife is so cute
Anonymous No.58119041 >>58119065
>>58117441
Bellsprout soft confirms mega victreebel
Anonymous No.58119065 >>58119066 >>58119071
>>58119041
>a Kalos Pokemon being in a Kalos game confirms the leaks because... it just DOES, okay!?
Anonymous No.58119066 >>58119068
>>58119065
...you do realize that bellsprout is muh kantomon, right?
Anonymous No.58119068 >>58119495
>>58119066
You do realize Bellsprout is in XY, right?
Anonymous No.58119071
>>58119065
Did you miss the word soft
also not all kalos mons are even confirmed to be in the game, Arceus did not have the entire sinnoh dex
Anonymous No.58119104
>>58117380 (OP)
i honestly don't know how plassfags even have the audacity to complain about this game while shilling their tech demo slop
za is the most fun and interesting pokemon game so far
it doesn't matter it's set inside a single city, it's still more fleshed out than that rushed empty barren wasteland slop
Anonymous No.58119134 >>58119341 >>58120777
>>58118650
good
that cancer belongs in the turn based mobileslop game
let compfags enjoy their ridiculous meta while pokechads enjoy anime-styled battling that rewards skill instead of aping the most successful strats
Anonymous No.58119214 >>58119408 >>58119808
I wish someone would pause in the chase section of the mega Absol part of the demo, curious what story missions 5-8 are(we know Mega Absol is Mission 9, and happens when you are V rank in the ZA Royale)
Anonymous No.58119308
>>58117436
But is he proud of his power?
Anonymous No.58119331
>>58118650
That's a huge change honestly, and a huge nerf for many, many pokemon
Anonymous No.58119341
>>58119134
I wish more people would realize this, I hope this battle system returns or becomes a mainstay, with improvements down the line.
Anonymous No.58119408 >>58120864 >>58121424
>>58118448
>>58118437
>>58118433
>>58118470
>>58118490
>>58118644
>>58118685
>>58119214
Game looks comfy as FUCK!

CANT WAIT!
Anonymous No.58119495 >>58119501 >>58120739
>>58119068
Legends Arceus didn't even have Pelipper, Quagsire, Medicham or Noctowl despite being in the Sinnoh dex.
Anonymous No.58119501 >>58123056
>>58119495
or absol and tried to replace garchomp with goodra wearing a shitty diaper. plass was a mistake
Anonymous No.58119808 >>58119893
>>58119214
By the way, quick comparison:

>You earn the Mega Ring at Rank V which is 3 promotion matches from the start of the game (You start at Z > Y > X > W and after the third promotion battle > V) from a total of 25 or 24 promotion matches. Mega Lucario that you borrow is Level 28, the Mega Absol that you earn afterwards is Level 25.
>You earn the Mega Ring right after beating Korrina in XY, 3 gyms out of 8. The Lucario that you receive if you want to is Level 32.
>You earn the Mega Bracelet shortly after beating Norman and moving towards Fortree, 5 gyms out of 8. The Lati Twins that you receive are Level 30.
Anonymous No.58119893
>>58119808
you get the ring slightly earlier than XY relatively(depending on endgame levels), but I imagine trainers are gonna have access to megas way earlier than those games going off of how many trainers have mega stones so far
Anonymous No.58119936 >>58120439
>>58117380 (OP)
The gameplay footage actually makes the game look interesting unlike the trailers that just show the player running around and occasionally OHKOing a Pokemon.
Anonymous No.58119940
>>58117605
Saving that, thanks
Anonymous No.58120013
Battle system honestly sold me a lot more in motion, it looks fun
Anonymous No.58120042 >>58120049
>During the closing ceremony
Anonymous No.58120049 >>58120119
>>58120042
I mean we may or may not get news. I think champions news is guaranteed given the venue, but more mixed on whether or not ZA news shows up
Anonymous No.58120119 >>58120130 >>58120170
>>58120049
>I think champions news is guaranteed given the venue
I wouldn't be so sure. TPC loves giving near 0 info on it's mobile games until they get released.
Anonymous No.58120130
>>58120119
I think champions is a bit different if they plan on making it a VGC pillar. But I guess we'll see. They need some kinda big closer for the closing ceremony, and either champions or ZA would fit the bill
Anonymous No.58120162 >>58120165 >>58120166
I really hope they make it so you can get the mega stones in a timely manner and not lock them towards the post game
Anonymous No.58120165 >>58120171
>>58120162
You get megastones by beating the corresponding rogue or by using megashards in the stone boutique
Anonymous No.58120166
>>58120162
from the sounds of all the statements and footage we have so far, it seems like as long as you gather mega shards and do sidequests + visit the stone emporium you'll be able to get stones at a decent clip
Anonymous No.58120170 >>58125426
>>58120119
Nowadays they love giving 0 info on anything until release. What was it, only 20 Paldeamons were officially revealed before release?
Anonymous No.58120171 >>58120251
>>58120165
one of the reps mentioned you can get them from a variety of other sources too in the Austin John Demo video
Anonymous No.58120251 >>58124622
>>58120171
Ah yes Ian I fucked his boipussy last week
No not joking
Anonymous No.58120263
>>58118005
>trickroom
>gyroball
Nothing personal kid
Anonymous No.58120270 >>58125394
>>58117436
>he needs a Cock Ring.
what did he mean by this
Anonymous No.58120290 >>58120342
>>58118446
I agree. What if there's another game featuring Mega Evolution? What symbol would it get?
Anonymous No.58120297
>>58118604
Soul
Anonymous No.58120300 >>58120313
someone got a full game early?
Anonymous No.58120313 >>58120319
>>58120300
>someone got a full game early?
it from a demo at world
Anonymous No.58120319
>>58120313
ah i see still neat tho im looking forward to it
Anonymous No.58120342
>>58120290
Anon there are two other games featuring megaevolution already
Anonymous No.58120360
>>58118543
Good catch anaon!
Anonymous No.58120372
>>58118401
Unlike Arceus, Zygarde does not have any defining characteristics.
Anonymous No.58120413 >>58120950
>>58117380 (OP)
I already have a Lucario on legends Arceus with these moves. I might not even need to buy legends ZA.
Anonymous No.58120439
>>58119936
I think they're doing a good job of building up hype by showing almost nothing
Anonymous No.58120739
>>58119495
Wow you right, out the entire dex of DPPt eight mons didn't make it to the Legends equivalent, with such odds we shouldn't expect ANY pokemon from XY dex to show up in its Legends equivalent, Bellsprout making it is truly a remarkable discovery
Anonymous No.58120745 >>58120747
I just hope that Milotic will be in this game, she will be following me around and exploring the city.
Anonymous No.58120747
>>58120745
>MiloKALOS
>not in Kalos
Anonymous No.58120765
Gameplay looks garbage like the rest of the game
Anonymous No.58120774
>>58118650
It was in PLA as well. Its a great change I wish was also in normal games
Anonymous No.58120777 >>58120789 >>58121522
>>58119134
>rewards skill
No, real time battling will reward mons with obscene speed stats who can "lol doj" every single attack without even trying, and spamming moves with low cooldowns in order to keep up a constant nonstop pressure.
Anonymous No.58120785 >>58120792 >>58120832
Some abilities must be hardcoded like Regigigas' Slow Start in Arceus, but which ones I wonder? From the top of my head
>Mega Kangaskhan's Parental Bond
>Aegislash's Stance Change
>Zygarde's Power Construct
>maybe Mega Charizard's Drought, Mega Abomasnow's Snow Warning and Mega Medichamp and Mega Mawile's Huge/Pure Power
Anonymous No.58120789
>>58120777
The cooldown of a move depends on its power obviously, a bunch of shitty moves are weaker than a really strong one. If your argument is that good evasion and good speed are excellent then congratulations you know something about Pokemon meta since gen 1 now
Anonymous No.58120792 >>58120802
>>58120785
Stance Change is basically required the same way Flower Gift was technically implemented in Arceus since it's tied to a forme that's a fundamental part of the species, Power Construct hinges entirely whether or not they intend to lock 100% behind its Mega, and the rest are unlikely.
Anonymous No.58120802 >>58120807
>>58120792
>Parental Bond isn't a fundamental part of Mega-Kangaskhan when the child joining the fight is LITERALLY the only effect of that megaevolution
>having a full body isn't a fundamental part of any species
Anonymous No.58120807 >>58120820
>>58120802
>th-there's two of them fighting together!
Damn, where's Dugtrio's Triple Trouble ability that lets it hit three times in a single attack?
>b-but Zygarde's 100% is a fundamental part of the species!
How do I turn my Aura Break Zygarde into 100%?
Anonymous No.58120811 >>58120821 >>58120825 >>58121646
so we'll definitely be fighting Zygarde in a gauntlet style fight, huh? fighting the speedy 10 percent form, fighting the bulky 50 percent form, fighting full power 100 percent form and finally the mega evolution form I feel pain, can you imagine having to dodge thousand arrows in this setting? the roll doesn't have the I frames anymore most people abused for Acerus and other hisuian electrode's battles either.
As for running around in battle, I still don't understand what the point of it is here outside of fights with rogue mega pokemon.

Since the rogue pokemon is gifted to you after defeating itlike tera raids and dyna raids I wonder if they will auto join you like the Absol or if you'll be able to hand them off to someone else if you already have that pokemon or simply let them retreat like dyna and tera raids.

Finally and this is probably gonna disappoint ppeople but the rival no matter the gender has the same personality and dialogue with Paxton and Harmony which makes me wonder why bother changing their gender anyway if they're the same character.
Anonymous No.58120820 >>58120834
>>58120807
>false equivalence
Dugtrio is its own pokemon. Mega-Kangaskhan is a Kangaskhan whose child finally fights copying her mother's moves afterwards
>How do I turn my Aura Break Zygarde into 100%?
By using the Zygarde Cube on it to change it to Power Construct, instead of using something like an ability patch/capsule. Because Power Construct isn't just an alt ability, it's THE ability that makes Zygarde complete. Literally.
Anonymous No.58120821
>>58120811
Because they wanted to make an ebin callback to XY where the rival was just a hatless version of the gender you didn't pick, but since you can likely take off your hat in LZA, they had to make a distinction in the hair color and clothes.
Anonymous No.58120825
>>58120811
>I still don't understand what the point of it is here outside of fights with rogue mega pokemon
The pokemon follows you closely so even if you aren't fighting an enemy trying to murder you, moving still saves your pokemon from being hit.

>why bother changing their gender
They wanted to make a gender counterpart rival like gen 3 and 6 obviously, but they have avoided making gender counterparts canon since gen 7 for some reason so instead of choosing Paxton and have Harmony as rival, they have the legally distinct Taunie, and instead of choosing Harmony and have Paxton as rival they have the legally distinct Urbain.
Anonymous No.58120832
>>58120785
Shedinja's of course, given he will probably be like he was in XY
Anonymous No.58120834 >>58120861 >>58120962
>>58120820
>Dugtrio is its own Pokemon.
It's a trio of Diglett who fight as one. Just like how Exeggcute are a unit who fight as one. Magneton are a trio of Magnemite who fight as one. Metagross are a duo of Metang, who are a quartet of Beldum, who fight as one.
So on, and so forth. What makes Mega Kangaskhan so special that it HAS to have its ability in a game that won't have 99% of abilities?
>just use Zygarde Cube and change Zygarde into a completely different form that abandons Aura Break for Power Construct, making it fundamentally not the same Pokemon and proving that achieving Complete is ability-reliant rather than being the sole baked-in option for that species, ala Cherrim's Flower Gift, Arceus' Multitype, Aegislash's Stance Change, Morpeko's Hunger Switch and multiple other abilities of similar nature
So I can't turn my Aura Break Zygarde into Complete without turning it into something else entirely first, thanks for proving my point.
Anonymous No.58120861 >>58120876
>>58120834
>It's a trio of Diglett who fight as one.
Stop reading here, their sizes don't even match. Just like the sizes and hairs of the alolan one don't match. Even fucking Wugtrio goes as far as changing skin color instead of being just three Wigletts together.
Fucking casual retard
Anonymous No.58120863 >>58120883 >>58120887 >>58120923
So when it comes time to represent ZA in Battle Masters who do you think will be the protagonist that goes through the game's events? For Legends Akari was the native and Rei was the isekai'd kid, in Let's go Elaine is the native and Chase is the isekai'd kid through Trace seems to have faced both, they could just ignore it entirely like Elio and Serene apparenlty have, neither of them know ultra beasts, neither of them defeated Kukui and Lillie doesn't have a special bond or admieration of their strengths either and in gen 8 Gloria went through some of the plot of sword shield as she has Zacian but apparently didn't beat Leon in the champion ship but did beat Mustard? Meanwhile Victor was just on a gourmet tour eating curry all over the map
Anonymous No.58120864
>>58119408
>
Anonymous No.58120876
>>58120861
Sword
>A team of Diglett triplets. It triggers huge earthquakes by burrowing 60 miles underground.
Shield
>These Diglett triplets dig over 60 miles below sea level. No one knows what it's like underground.
Shield for Alolan
>The three of them get along very well. Through their formidable teamwork, they defeat powerful opponents.

>Stop reading here, their sizes don't even match. Just like the sizes and hairs of the alolan one don't match.
Size variance, retard, the thing they've been trying to put into effect to convey that not every mon is a carbon copy of each other in a way that's more digestible than stats? Also, no shit the hairs of Alolan Dugtrio don't match, they're a trio of individual Digletts who teamed up, again, becoming a unit who fights as one.
Anonymous No.58120883
>>58120863
Nobody cares about gachashit continuity. Not even you given you couldn't even name the game correctly
Anonymous No.58120887
>>58120863
Master SEX isn't canon, they'll just make bullshit up like all of your examples.
Anonymous No.58120918
>>58117572
If you're gonna mindlessly shit on the game, you should at least do it in a way that doesn't make everyone think you're retarded.
Anonymous No.58120923
>>58120863
Ideally Harmony's the canon protag because i like Urbain. Why is the demo anti-Urbain?
Anonymous No.58120931
>>58117380 (OP)
Can pokemon attack you directly or what
Anonymous No.58120950
>>58120413
The reason most people buy Pokemon games is to play them, not as a means to get a single Pokemon with new moves.
>inb4 muh VGC
Cringe and gay. Only autistic retards give a shit about the official competitive scene.
Anonymous No.58120962
>>58120834
>Aura Break Zygarde is something else entirely if you simply change its ability with its own natural item
lmao
Anonymous No.58121359 >>58121456
I just realized they chose Absol because of environmental disaster approaching the city or already present...
Anonymous No.58121424 >>58121531
>>58119408
Unironically, yeah.
It's a shame the environments still looks pretty awful, but at least it will be 1080p60 in handheld mode on Switch 2. It's going to be comfy playing in bed
Anonymous No.58121456
>>58121359
Mega-Lucario being just first Mega is a XY reference. Mega-Lucario vs Mega-Lucario is also a reference to XY, to the final rival battle to be precise
Anonymous No.58121522
>>58120777
this is how i know you play literally nothing but turn based pokeslop because even kids these days play fighting games and are probably better than you
Anonymous No.58121531
>>58121424
60 is just really nice, especially for a real time game. Feels super smooth, looks to be almost no framedrops either
Anonymous No.58121582 >>58121618
>>58117817
Given that the genies were available in legends arceus just to round out their group, i think we'll be fine. I'm more worried about the primals not being in, though, since they're not really actual megas.
Anonymous No.58121618 >>58124495
>>58121582
The Hoenn trio has no business being in fucking lumiose
Anonymous No.58121646
>>58120811
>Finally and this is probably gonna disappoint ppeople but the rival no matter the gender has the same personality and dialogue with Paxton and Harmony which makes me wonder why bother changing their gender anyway if they're the same character.

So that Team MZ is gender-equal

>You (male/female)
>Rival (opposite of gender of the one you picked)
>Naveen (male)
>Lida (female)
Anonymous No.58121839
No Ludicolo? No buy.
Anonymous No.58121861
>>58117436
Lucario is CUTE
Anonymous No.58122503 >>58122975
>>58117380 (OP)
I heard the player character also have HP, is it true?
Anonymous No.58122512 >>58122748
Not gonna lie, that M-Absol boss fight looked boring as fuck
Anonymous No.58122748
>>58122512
Cause you're just watching it. Games are meant to be played.
Anonymous No.58122760
I'm liking the green aesthetic for this game
Anonymous No.58122975 >>58122994
>>58122503
Yes and rouge mega Pokemon will specifically target You.
Anonymous No.58122994 >>58123042 >>58123068 >>58123138
>>58122975
so what happens when your ran out of pokemon?
you are left alone with the enemy?
Anonymous No.58123042
>>58122994
if it works like pla yes!
Anonymous No.58123056
>>58119501
Not now PLAschizo.
Anonymous No.58123068
>>58122994
This is conjecture but I assume as long as the trainer is still standing, the battle isn't lost because you can revive the Pokemon. Just keep in mind that items have cooldowns now.
Anonymous No.58123138
>>58122994
you finish the job
Anonymous No.58123918 >>58129433
Looks like each battle zone will have a recommended level and description of its schtick listed
Anonymous No.58123930 >>58124110 >>58124477
An NPC that can recover wasted pokeballs apparently exists in Lumiose
Anonymous No.58124110
>>58123930
honestly, I don't like this one, why is even a thing that needs to be explained?

also I like it more if you don't recover them, that way you have play far more carefully, but nope, pokemon really has to water down everything
Anonymous No.58124380
>>58118525
God bless. Sv desperately needed this
Anonymous No.58124470
Just got back from Worlds. The demo was fun, I really like how quickly you can switch between Pokemkn. Also they had Nintendo staff standing between every two players to 'help', but also make sure you don't go too off course.
Anonymous No.58124477
>>58123930
Aprilball gang…?
Anonymous No.58124483
This is a good change, I expect it to be shit still. But I'm in favor of all these "side" games being highly experimental and deviating from the formula to give something at least novel from the regular games
Anonymous No.58124495 >>58125319
>>58121618
Bro, several legendaries are just chilling in Paldea, Lugia's just chilling in the ocean, Zapdos is hanging out at Arven's house, Groudon is in a random cave, Suicune is chilling on the lake, and I never bothered looking for the rest of them oh right and Rayquaza is just chilling on a random cliff side of Area Zero, I'm still pissed that room with Roaring Moon and Iron Valient spawns ultimately meant nothing, that symbol on the floor meant nothing yet it's clearly where they were gonna put Iron Leaves and Walking Wake at some point

the one thing I hope about ZA is that if we are hunting legendaries is that they actually move about the world , imagine being a random cave, turning a corner and suddenly a mewtwo is throwing shit at you, that's what I want. them just vibing is cool but it's so boring now especially because I really wanna see that big mothefucker Eternatus at it's full size spawning in an area acting as a roadblock for you to either be really good at avoiding it before you can enter that area or a challenge you can take on as soon as you're able to match it's level or have a good team to weather it's attacks.

In fact, the lack of pokemon's true sizes really holds the games back IMO Eternatus is just the one that really bugs me because it's whole appeal is that it's a gigantic elrict abomination it's the biggest pokemon in recorded history even dynamax pokemon aren't as huge as it is.
Anonymous No.58124507
>>58117380 (OP)
Disgusting, Palworld needs to sue them for patent theft.
Anonymous No.58124622
>>58120251
Fascinating
Would you mind to share the greentext? :3c
Anonymous No.58125304 >>58125344
Poisoned outside battle
https://x.com/HiddenPowerPod/status/1956827240429195519
Anonymous No.58125309
https://x.com/HiddenPowerPod/status/1956846955461812279
Evolution sequence
Anonymous No.58125319
>>58124495
None of them are inside Mesagoza like you suggest having Groudon, Kyogre and Rayquaza inside Lumiose.
And that room is a map of the treasures of ruin, retard
Anonymous No.58125330
Higher leveled enemy in the tutorial
https://x.com/rasenburst/status/1956861222784999455
Anonymous No.58125344
>>58125304
Can you not post the worst youtube podcast when they’re just saying things that have been said by still shitty but better sources?
Anonymous No.58125377
>>58117380 (OP)
Alright, it sounds like they’re going to do Anime-style Pokebattles now!!!
Anonymous No.58125390 >>58125419 >>58126203 >>58126545 >>58126616
>>58117380 (OP)
I hate how the Trainers you battle don't even have names or classes anymore. When you approach them, a battle just starts. No "You're challenged by Hiker Gaylord" message at all.

And the Battle system is totally shit - "we tekken now". But this is what happens when GF listens to normie demands - "abandon turns", "make open world", "remove HMs" - it always ends up fucking these games up.

Fuck this game.
Anonymous No.58125394 >>58125396
>>58120270
AZ's recently into BDSM
Anonymous No.58125396
>>58125394
he would like that remake
Anonymous No.58125419 >>58125457
>>58125390
>sees real timed action
>thinks about Tekken
Are you retarded?
Anonymous No.58125424 >>58125529
The poison status leaves your mon to 1 HP when outside of battle btw
Anonymous No.58125426 >>58125542
>>58120170
They learnt their lesson from SUMO era
What was it? A trailer every week?
Anonymous No.58125457 >>58125530
>>58125419
True. Tekken at least has the dynamic, while this is total shit.
Anonymous No.58125529 >>58125551
>>58125424
Looks like it's an evolution on gen 4's system, when the Pokemon hits 1hp the poison doesn't go away either, so it encourages antidote use rather than waiting out the poison then potion spamming
Anonymous No.58125530
>>58125457
>-WOW SO X THING IS JUST LIKE LIKE Y THING? THAT SUCKS
>+They are nothing alike.
>-YEAH BECAUSE Y THING IS BETTER AND X SUCKS
You are such a pathetic lifeform.
Anonymous No.58125542
>>58125426
id take one once a month, or bring back corocoro...
Anonymous No.58125551
>>58125529
... wait is that not how it worked in other games? I've never let a pokemon just suffer the poison like that, it's too cruel
Anonymous No.58125564 >>58125700
are we going to see trailer at the end of worlds or is this demo all we get?
Anonymous No.58125700
>>58125564
There's a closing ceremony 13 hours from now I think so I'm pretty sure we are getting something
Anonymous No.58126203 >>58126275
>>58125390
We should have seen this coming with how few trainer classes were in SV, frankly… can’t believe the series is regressing past fucking Red and Green.
Anonymous No.58126275
>>58126203
Anon just because you aren't forced to battle irrelevant NPCs doesn't mean the region doesn't have plenty of them
Anonymous No.58126545 >>58126616 >>58126672
>>58125390
they do have names, you literally see the names pop up when you target them.

Whether or not trainer classes get displayed we know they are in the game, we see the designs or redesigns of multiple kalos trainer classes in trailers etc
Anonymous No.58126616 >>58126672 >>58128111
>>58126545
>>58125390
>Basic reading ability is needed to fully enjoy this game.jpg
Anonymous No.58126672
>>58126545
>>58126616
Maybe they just can’t see easily?!
Anonymous No.58126681
Turns out if you beat the demo's rogue mega and night battles fast enough you get to control Emma's vibrator in the middle of an agency mission
Anonymous No.58127247 >>58128038
I hope every night has a super trainer several levels higher than the rest honestly, since this Legends game is more centered on battling let's make it a challenge. That would be new for Kalos too
Anonymous No.58127637
>>58117605
fucking kek
Anonymous No.58128038 >>58128119
>>58127247
That trainer was 2 ranks ahead, maybe we'll find trainers of higher ranks occasionally
Anonymous No.58128111
>>58126616
the backpacker bandana looks kinda Team Aqua branded, but it could just be similar
Anonymous No.58128119
>>58128038
my guess is that every story relevant/advancement ZA Royale night will have what is essentially a challenge boss trainer of a higher rank you can challenge. Being action based means its actually possible to overcome a bigger level disadvantage
Anonymous No.58128124 >>58128168
>>58117380 (OP)
Pointless having a demo if we can't even download it on our own consoles. I miss the legit data mines.
Anonymous No.58128168 >>58128254
>>58128124
ZA may be our last datamine session for a while if Gen 10 is switch 2 exclusive, gonna miss em
Anonymous No.58128254
>>58128168
You know very well it is gonna be exclusive
Anonymous No.58128506
>>58118706
The battle menu is still too dense for my liking. I don’t need a minimap or turn history when I’m battling.
Anonymous No.58129433 >>58131296 >>58131350
>>58123918
AKA another fake open world like SV
Anonymous No.58131296
>>58129433
>open worlds aren't open if levels aren't equalized across the entire world
Anonymous No.58131350
>>58129433
this game hasn't even been advertised as open world
Anonymous No.58131877
Damn I was expecting a new mega, but at least we got a new trailer. The battle royale multiplayer looks actually fun unlike Alola's bullshit