Thread 58121292

Stream:
https://www.youtube.com/live/xYob2O1L8lo?si=YJmygSHg03afpPwR

Pairings:
https://rk9.gg/pairings/WCS02wcZg4VXtaqyIk5L

Standings:
https://www.pokedata.ovh/standingsVGC/0000150/masters/

I yearn for she.

Ugarte jobbed damn

>>58121296
get in line

PffthahaahhhAHHAHAHAHAhhhiooooaabahahahAHAHHAHAAH

>>58121292 (OP)
I would actually just kill myself if my name would be Chuppa Cross IV...

How cringe was the opening ceremony?

wolfiebros we can still pull it off

>>58121292 (OP)
>no Canadians
>no joeux9
>barely any Italians
>no marco or fedecampo

>>58121337
no

>>58121341
Technically he still can. He did make day 2

>>58121340
Only 8 Canadians qualified for worlds

>>58121344
holy bunda

The Top 8 players at NAIC went 0/8 on making Day 2 of Worlds.

>>58121379
regulation I is super inconsistent. match up roulettes and CSR Zama speed ties.

>>58121379
Doing well at NAIC is practically a curse at worlds

>>58121327
I’m normally pretty resistant to cringe, but this is making me physically recoil.

PRAY FOR HO-OH AND GROUDON I BELIEVE
>>58121379
Good, Zama/CalyS is the most boring core.

>>58121344
oh lord she's got a dumpy

in Yoshitaka Izawa we trust

Let's go Baekbros.
I also give some of my energy to Kelshbros.
Ho-ohman winning is fine too.

stream started

>>58121590
let me know when stuff is actually happening

how many today?

dont forget

>>58121327
Ai actually made a better Rhyperior than Gamefreak

>>58121602
>guy named after a legendary
Wolfesisters, his aura is too high. I don't think we're winning this one...

MOMMY'S HERE

damn that opening video was good

Anna alert

caly-zama on the telly

How do team sheets work? What if an American gets paired against a Japanese? How do they exchange sheets

Crazy how Regieleki is now a rare Pokemon that I'm happy to see

What's the point of Sunday if day 1 and 2 have all the VGC matches?

>>58121677
closing ceremony

I want to see the ho oh japanese player so bad

>>58121677
Sunday is grand finals for all 4 games and age divisions

thisd is the first 60fps worlds when you think about it

damn James got played

>>58121686
>You reward for winning is waiting so you can play one, singular match and if you lose you'll feel extra bad
That sounds terrible...

>>58121696
its grand finals. it has the most hype

James..

He should've nasty plot and volt switch so next turn he can rage powder with volc and astral barage.

>>58121696
i've always wished they could show semi finals on sunday but pokemon only wants finals on the official stream

Wolfey is out 6-3

>>58121734
It's a Quiver set, not Rage Powder

>Ceribelli out
italianbros I don't feel so good
Musicco did great though

>>58121738
?

Luca and Shoma are out

Hirofumi Kimura and Mao
Harada cut

>>58121744
Hasn't updated, you act like people aren't there watching matches.

>>58121738
lol
lmao

>>58121748
I thought only 9-2s advanced to top cut, so only Ko has locked top cut

>>58121752
only two rounds of cut. need 8 wins to cut.

Our guy Izawa is still playing, how's he doing?
Ho-Oh must win.

How is the Jumpluff guy doing.

>>58121756
thats Justin, hes out

>>58121744
So 3 losses and you're out? Damn

>>58121757
Oh....

>>58121754
7-2

An elite club, maybe it's a sign

Wolfe is out according to some of my friends at the venue.

WOLFE LOST
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
PRESS S TO SPIT ON WOLFESISSIES

>>58121753
Neat, so 6-3s still have a shot

>>58121781
no, x-3 means you're out.

>>58121780
TAIWAN NUMBER ONE

>>58121780
day 2 worlds still a good accomplishment

Damn Ho-Oh bros, we only have one more chance.

>>58121776
german autism is too powerful

>>58121780
according to my friend the Taiwan player popped off hard.

>>58121776
der beste will never win the title
he's a choker

>Wolfe out
KEK

>>58121776
I would respect him if he looked like he showered and didn’t tweet about how girls rejected him. I know you have autism but c’mon, respect yourself a little

>>58121786
For a normal person, yes.
For Wolfe? For all the dickriding he gets? A total bum.
>>58121792
>he's a choker
BUT ENOUGH ABOUT FRAUDFE

World champ diff- ACK

>>58121780
how the fuck do you lose to TORKOAL in Regulation I

>>58121791
If even the wolfesissy is saying so it must be true.
Good on the lad. Must have felt fucking good.

Lunala Koraidon core was never the right move.

>>58121799
Choke champ difference.

>>58121802
another person top cut with it, the same person who beat Wolfe in the win and in at NAIC. Giovanni
Cischke.

also Aaron needs to commentate every worlds match.

>Double Smeargle
Gen 2 just wanted to make a funny Pokémon

they guy Wolfe lost to is very well known for running hard TR stuff within the VGC. Hes actually been banned from Showdown for ladder boosting. Big scandal. hes a really nice person though and good player

>>58121780
>last Worlds: breaks records by going undefeated in games 16-0
>doesn't make top cut

>this year: desperately makes it to day 2 on life support
>doesn't make top cut

It's over for the GOAT matter what, isn't it?

https://x.com/johnnychiou36
Make sure to send your good wishes to savior.

TCG guy is shaking

>>58121813
The "problem" is that he won the biggest pokemon tournament ever during S/V, so hig glazers will not stop anytime soon even with those results at worlds

>>58121817
>Taiwan nats champ
damn hes good then. players from apac are always shit

Why did he like Koraidon so much? That cost him everything.

>>58121802
Lunala was useless from what I've seen on last night's game. Ursaluna is too matchup reliant. Amoonguss was hard carrying. He was never winning with that squad.

Baek and Ho-oh dude are 7-2.
Hopefully they won't met.

>>58121813
Wolfekeks already came up with a new cope.
That next year will be better since it'll be the 10th anniversary of his worlds win.
Can't wait to see him choking again.

>>58121813
he's been washed since 2016

>>58121780
Imagine reverse dick riding this hard against someone you've never met

>>58121799
that's rad as fuck

>>58121829
Because he thinks he's a giga-brain innovator for running close combat.

>Wolfie
>Not using the Wolf legendary

>>58121840
Calm down Wolfe, there's always next year buddy

I actually genuinely can't stand listening to women commentate

>>58121837
hes won multiple majors since 2016. Wolfes biggest issue is that he insists on using weird shit over the best stuff, even If it's outdated. 2016 he won with a counter team, the meta call, every worlds hes tried to bring "the meta call" and he ends up brining sap sipper farigiraf in 2023. Hes my GOAT but hes stubborn

>>58121840
Turns out people expect more of you when becoming the official face of VGC.

>>58121826
yeah that's an hard trick room alright
surely Wolfe's team has some answers to it? Ursaluna, Lunala, Amongus

>>58121837
>>58121822
It's fucking crazy how he gaslighted millions just because he keeps farming bloated as fuck with shitters regs. All the TPC NB buttbuddies astrosurfing helps a lot.
Meanwhile at every worlds he keeps jobbing like a bitch. Which makes sense, since now he's actually among big dogs.
Never forgetti that the only worlds he won he did because his boyfriend threw for him.

>>58121847
gabby is better at the game than you, she's a multiple time world qualifier

How did our Groudon boys do?
I think there were 2 of them.

hirofumis low kick koraidon is putting in WORK

>>58121840
It's okay wolfesissy.
Maybe next year. Again. lol

>>58121802
>>58121829
>>58121831
A lot of other people were doing well with their Koraidons and Lunalas. Hell, the guy that's undefeated is using Lunala.

>>58121826
isn't he using that that team this tournament?

>>58121849
Honestly this World's meta is just way too fast-paced for his playstyle. Games are ending in less than 7 turns. 2 restricted are simply too much for this power-crept generation.

>>58121867
yea its standard reg I hard TR

lmao go look at reddit they're melting down HARD

>>58121853
at this point baek is better than him at worlds

>>58121846
Nah its pretty sad. If you find his mannerisms or his youtube content to be annoying or shit, I get it sure, but is it really worth gloating about on a taiwanese childrens videogame imageboard like you have just personally defeated him when we both know you've just been jerking off to pokegirls for the last week?

>>58121853
>Meanwhile at every worlds he keeps jobbing like a bitch
since when is top cut and a day 2 jobbing at worlds. you act like that shit is easy to do.

>>58121855
>who cares that she's a mediocre commentator, she played the game well 15 years ago

>>58121875
Yes it's worth it, you typed so much.

>>58121871
I wouldn't call a team with Torkoal "standard", his usage is very low

>>58121879
she's a good commentator, better at the game than you AND has been playing longer than you. she's more than qualified.

>>58121875
>I'm not a wolfefag but...
Sure bro lol
>>58121877
The problem is that Wolfe keeps dickridden and hyped to high heaven. When everyone keeps sucking your dick and claiming you're the goat? Anything but winning, and winning hard, is a total and complete failure.

>>58121884
standard for hard TR. torkoal is almost always on hard TR no matter the format in scarlet and violet.

also win and in round, last round of Swiss. x-2 cut

>>58121885
Just proving my point. Have fun I guess

>>58121885
you're obsessed.

The fact that verlisify hasn't tweeted about wolfe's elimination yet proves he's both a lazy loser who isn't out of bed this late in the day and that he likely had to go back to spinning signs because those views aren't cutting it and his friends won't use his affiliate link

Torkoal vid?

>>58121885
>WP symbol
If only he meant it.

>>58121895
>>58121902
u mad lol

>>58121885
Gem

>>58121890
>Anything but winning, and winning hard
Wolfe has won every level of comp that VGC has to offer, internets, nats, regional, worlds, GCs, those at home tours during SWSH

Where I can find which players are still standing in real time?

>>58121909
You know we can tell who you are from your writing style, right?
He won't fuck you because you're defending his honor on a taiwanese basket weaving forum dude.

>>58121913
https://www.pokedata.ovh/standingsVGC/0000150/masters/

>>58121911
both Silva and Camporesi getting day one'd was very surprising

>>58121919
>Those basedbeards
Yikes

>>58121917
>schizo
sorry for bothering you then.

>>58121917
Anon is right. The wolfe glazing is annoying, but it's a fact he's won every level. He's not the greatest, but neither is someone like Ray Rizzo who could never complete versus the larger scene and higher skill ceiling now

>>58121919
>Triple Incineroar
Maybe Champions should start deleting Knock Off's distribution

>>58121928
No pokemon as tanky as Incin should have Intimidate and parting shot. Let alone it gets knock off and fake out on top of it.

>>58121925
>Changed the thing I noticed
lmaaaaaaaaaaaooooooooooooooo
By the way he still lost and you'll still be mad.
>>58121926
>but neither is someone like Ray Rizzo who could never complete versus the larger scene and higher skill ceiling now
Do you have a single fact to back that up?

>>58121932
they gave it helping hand in this gen. its someones favorite at game freak

>>58121926
Didn't Ray actually qualify for Japan Nats the other time and the retard deleted his save and couldn't go?
If he could quality on the hellish nip circuit then he's clearly still very capable.

Freezai would have won this one

>>58121941
yup

>>58121886
Name 1 thing that makes her commentary interesting

>>58121933
youre making up enemies in your head. ive never spoken to you on this site before

>>58121933
If he was good enough he'd be here. No one who is as good as people claim Ray is stops playing unless they aren't as skilled. He won in a time when there was a handful of players. Vgc players are far superior now. He's irrelevant now desu

So next Worlds is surely being played with Champions, right? Surely it’s not gonna be in SV again

>>58121943
Bro lost Pchal's VGC tournament skull emoji
Now Pokeaim.....

>>58121945
she's been playing VGC since it was created, same with Wolfe and Cybertron. anyone who brings 10+ years of experience means that theyve seen everything means they can bring that to their commentary

>>58121947
Sorry he's got a life outside of Pokemon, bro.
I'll make sure to tell him that he must win Worlds next year to prove you wrong next time I see him.

>>58121948
It's going to be SV again.
Champions is too late.

>>58121941
Don't see him at worlds and haven't at any worlds in relevant years so idc about his "story." I'm not gonna glaze a has been if he isn't even competing at the top level

>>58121948
Yes. The site for 2026 worlds is already shilling megas too.

>>58121948
It'll be Champions from now on, yeah. It's unlikely the mainline games will be used for VGC play again.

>guy with the biggest vgc related youtube channel gets the most attention?
>fuck him, its not fair!
Do you get mad at clouds for making rain too?
The masses don't give attention to people they have never heard of. Just accept it and live a happier life.

>>58121947
it's hard to take results before 2017 seriously

>>58121948
>Champions over SV
verils is going to seethe over this. he thinks players should waste a week training mons

>>58121947
>>58121956
Holy samefag.
Keep your fanfiction and schizo babbling outtta here.

>>58121954
If he wanted to be considered the goat he should have tried harder, sucks to suck

Champion or SV I don't care but please no more restricted legendaries next world...

>>58121954
Nothing wrong with that. It just means he's not the greatest. He's been passed by superior players in an era of a larger scene with higher skill level. It's like comparing NBA champions from 60 years ago to now. We've progressed

>>58121952
>they're a good commentator if they've played the game
God damn get some better standards, this is why VGC commentary is still behind compared to other esports

>>58121967
Ok hear me out but what if...
Three restricted legendaries per team?

>>58121963
Exactly. It's really not comparable. I don't think many old world champions would top cut at worlds now

Jesus Christ this Wolfefag is melting down hard. Going through all the narratives in record time.
Please go back to pleddit and twitch chat. Thank you.

>>58121971
fuck it, make it 6
the problem is that there are no good support legendaries, people would still pick Incineroar/Amongus over them

They shouldn't allow old people to play competitive pokemon on the world stage

>>58121965
Have you rewatched Ray's matches? They look elementary compared to VGC today. Idk why you're white infighting for someone who hasn't been relevant for over a decade

>>58121967
2 restricteds + 1 mythical + tera + megas + Z moves

GOAT.

how will they nerf the raidons?

>>58121975
I like Ho-oh support, but its a tough sell to tryhards to take it over incineror for sure.

>>58121292 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4rdaNuQmgM

side stream match

>>58121982
Koraidon does not need any nerfs

>>58121976
I like having no age limit. It just reinforces that the old guard was never as good as players now

>>58121986
both dogs got nerfed because of just one

>>58121979
So irrelevant that he's living rent free in your head since the true best player of all time instead of the gay jew you fanboy over.

>>58121982
Ground fairy intimidate, fake out, follow me, prevo has friend guard

>>58121971
I could see a modified reg J where the mythical is an addition to the 2 restricteds.
The problem with reg J is that you'll seldom, if ever, run a mythical over a restricted legendary that's more powerful.

>>58121982
Drop the boosts from 33% to 20%.

>>58121986
Yeah but they usually nerf pairs at the same time even if only one is the problem.

>>58121981
Oh yeah bro beat 50 people he's the goat

>>58121982
Simplest nerf of all time, just remove 1.33x boost

>>58121982
They wont.

>>58121986
I love playing with Ho-oh myself, but I wouldn't call it a support. Tailwind is great, but what he does best is being a counter to the meta

>>58121996
Poor Koraidon, just losing terastallizing is enough to nerf it.
Miraidon has out of the box synergy with its moves, type, and ability.

>>58121991
Idk who you think I'm defending, but I think wolfe fails to compete with the current crop of better players too

>>58121998
This. No fucking reason for their abilities to have that shit.

>>58121973
Why are you so obsessed with someone who has no idea you exist?

>>58122001
I like running life dew on it, catches a lot of people out.

>>58121992
kalossan runerigus will have all that

>11 months of work
Jeudy has a teamsheet error and immediately flops 0-3

Why aren't they showing an 8-1 match? the winner will be guaranteed top cut

>>58122015
I'll have to try that

Minani, Tang, and Izawa.
Groudon and Ho-Oh, just believe bros.

>>58122024
>north korea

>>58122024
cool

>>58122001
I was using it for tailwind and life dew to look after a Terrapagos while it setup, to try and get it back to 100% hp for the damage reduction on its ability.
Also with a regenerator hydrapple with pollen puff too. Having 2 very bulky regenerator pokemon to dance between can do stuff.
It is a meme team really though, I aint claiming its worlds material. Strictly speaking incin + amoongus would probably be stronger.

got banned for spotting the tranny

Anyone else waste a bunch of time shiny hunting legendaries to use in Reg I?
(It was worth it)

>>58122027
what did he do?

I hope Nick loses for looking like a neckbeard

Our FUARKING HERO, the Wolfesissy slayer, is on stream.

>a swordfish core made round 10
impressive

>>58122041
No, I already have them all :*(
Only 2 weeks until GO gives me Jirachi too

>>58122049
this is his reward :)

>hydro pump Kyogre
really nigga?

>>58122052
I didn't hunt in GO, so I got like 10 from Dynamax adventures.

>>58122051
Zacian winning Worlds would be super funny.
>>58122055
I mean it's clearly working otherwise he wouldn't be there.

>>58122041
I'm prepping all my relevant mythicals for next month so I can get all of them Rank Master ribbons (if they don't already have them)

>>58122058
Most of mine are from DA or the Ultra games. Some are only available in Go, so kinda need to do that if you want the gen 8 ones or mythicals

How is a Pokemon allowed to have this moveset
remove this piece of shit from the game

>>58122055
so you arent stuck clicking ice beam because of wide guard

>>58122024
for me it's
>that guy from the Atlantic Ocean
>the guy from Unalaska
>the duo from Yakutia

>>58122067
>technician
Lets see how this plays out for him

>>58122045
I don’t know exactly what he messed up, but he couldn’t use U-Turn

>>58122067
it used to have pre nerf dark void and could get an accuracy and evasion boost

>>58122063
I'm so unfamiliar with GO, I just got Meltan.

>>58122068
Maybe it's more like NA players are frauds and bums and can't measure in the real world stage.

>>58122083
There were barely any NA players in the top 8, the final was Italy vs Italy

>>58122089
My bad. I didn't see the IC part. Thought they were talking about the NA ranking.

>>58122081
Shiny dogs are coming back next week, they're probably the best attackers in the game so try to get carried in some raids if you want them.
Aside from that, use your daily free incense while you walk. It has a different spawn pool than the incense items you have in your bag and the daily one is the only way to get the shiny galarian birds

Taiwan is playing super well

>>58122094
I literally have nothing.
I don't even know where I'd start.

60fps SV still feels weird to me.
It feels unnatural, and with how smooth everything is moving, it's easier to notice how fucking ugly it all is too.
As trash swooshie were, they had the stadiums on point.

Ko Tsukide lost.
No one will be undefeated on top cut.
Also, ho-oh dude made it to top cut.

>>58122067
Is Technician really worth it just for Fake Out?

>>58122107
Just catch whatever and get carried when there's a ton of raids during the next event. There's a Kyogre event today and you can just get carried in raids.
If you want my personal opinion, the game is shit and I wouldn't recommend getting into it

>>58122051
>>58122059
Also, this Zacian dude lost.
Sad.
>>58122118
Chip is chip.
You know how those invisible focus sashes are.

>>58122118
No, it's just to avoid the inconsistency of Moody

Giuseppe gives Ko his first win and guarantees himself top cut

kyogrebros... i don't feel so good...

hard TR wins a game without setting up trick room?

ho oh player top cut

>>58122118
It's just the
>I got fucked too many times by Moody giving me minus Speed so fuck that, I'm going Technician
option.

>>58122133
He lost

>>58122140
I thought only 9-2s made top cut

I really dislike casters pretending they cant see what moves are selected. "OHHH HE WENT FOR PROTECT!!!" nigga you saw him pick that 30 seconds ago. We all did.

>>58122146
only 2 rounds of day 2 cause they arent many players.

>>58122144 (me)
nevermind, luckshitter got the double protect

>>58122140
Oh baby.

I don’t know much about comp. Why does everybody use Calyrex?

Hung Chi-Yu with the reads

>>58122151
thats their job actually

>>58122153
whoops

>>58122151
You are assuming those retards are paying attention to that. Yesterday a caster kept saying that leftovers were helping Calyrex to stay healthy when he was clear amulet

>double protect and crit
feel bad for nick

>>58122168
he looks dead inside

>>58122158
Min maxxed stats, Caly S is FAST, Caly I is SLOW. 165 SpAtk and Atk respectively. 120BP 100% acc spread moves, Moxie boost(for SpAtk/Atk respectively) any time they KO an opponent, can hold items.
Basically the Calyrex's are absolutely broken and need a nerf badly even if it's just making them hold reins of unity or making their signature moves 85% acc.

>>58122162
>I'm just following orders
Not an excuse

>trick room set up
the game is over

>>58122180
>neet doesnt understand how having a job works

>>58122183
Sorry but we had numerous war crime trials to decide just following orders doesn't excuse anything

looks like nick got tilted and is playing on autopilot

>>58122186
>comparing video game casting to actual war crimes
weird way to move the goalpost

whats the non restricted usage looking like bros

>>58122193
Clearly you aren't taking this seriously at all. Let the adults discuss and sit down, child.

>>58122197
its the casters job to act like they did not see whats locked in.

so, after seeing him play now. did ching chong deserved his win against wolfie?

>>58122193
Their just imagined crimes in the first place.

>>58121982
Remove the boost, now Orichalcum Pulse and Hadron Engine are just reskinned Drought and Electric Surge. What's the problem with that?

both the pagos players are out

Pagogo should remove terrain/weather on entry rather than just tera

>>58122140
RAAAAAA GEN 2 BROS WE ARE SO BACK

>>58122068
>smart players hide their strats for worlds
>idiots blow their load early for a mickey mouse international

>>58122204
It's a bigger problem for Koraidon because it is substantially weaker than Groudon then.
Maybe if Orichalum Pulse was like a slightly weaker desolate land(water moves work) but sun can't be overridden while Koraidon is on the field.
Maybe make Haidron Engine work so Electric Terrain can't be overwritten while Miraidon is on the field.
Truthfully, losing Terastallizing is a huge nerf for Koraidon anyway. Miraidon needs it much worse.

both these players are throwing

>>58122217
The ability is only meant to be a momentum bump, not a turbo Air Lock.

chihhung threw by expanding forcing in trick room, that play made zero sense. at least we get a g3

>>58122233
It would make it not ass

>>58122227
>>It's a bigger problem for Koraidon because it is substantially weaker than Groudon then.
GOOD
Something like Groudon should straight-up NEVER be powercrept in any manner whatsoever.
That Kyogre and Groudon are in this pathetic state of usage is hard proof of how fucked up shit is right now. We have to go back.

>>58122240
Primals returning would make them a broken staple again. They're pretty good anyway so I wouldn't get worked up about it.

>>58122224
before OTS it was common practice for top players to use a throwaway team for NAIC and save the real team for worlds

>>58122238
The ability is very annoying anyway, I don't want it to have super airlock where terrain is also removed.

nick called that

>taunted the tr mon
we're so fucking back

Imagine if Xerneas set Misty Terrain on entry and had a 1.33x boost to all special attacks while it's up instead just to Fairy-type moves? That is the Raidons. Fairy/Dark Aura is a mere 1.33x boost to one type and are still one of best abilities in the game. Drought and Electric Surge are also considered between the best abilities without a meme 1.33x boost.

mystical fire bros... why have they forsaken us

>>58122264
maybe you'd have a point if misty terrain weren't ass

URSHIFOOLISH XD

>>58122264
Let's not get too ahead of ourselves, none of the raidons have Geomancy

nails goat

>>58122268
Xerneas learns Terrain Pulse

James Baek beats Zee and makes top cut.

>Xerneas set Misty terrain!
>Scoliopede used Steel Roller, Xerneas fainted!

>>58122292
based

>>58122292
LET'S FUCKING GO BAEKBROS

>>58122292
NICEEEE

>>58122297
SO
FUCKING
BAEK

Wolfie slayer down

>>58122292
He's pretty tolerable as poketubers go. Good for him.

F
Your deeds will not be forgotten, Taiwandude.
You saved this Worlds even if you won't win it.

So how many players will be left standing after today?
Is top cut 16?

This is your top cut today.

>>58122321
thanks

>>58122311
F

>>58122240
What would ADV Reg I look like?

Better pic.
Who're we cheering for?

>>58122337
Go watch the JAA vids.
It's Explosion featuring Weather Wars starring Lati@s from the Devil May Cry Series.

>>58122318
today is until finals, so just 2.
20 players made top cut, and the bottom 8 of them will have to play an additional elimination match to create a top 16 bracket

new thread
>>58122344
>>58122344
>>58122344

>>58122341
Ho-Oh, the obvious choice.
Izawa has this.

>>58121926
> someone like Ray Rizzo who could never complete versus the larger scene and higher skill ceiling now
That's like saying Gretzky wouldn't be as good a player if he played in the modern NHL. The era's are entirely different.

>>58122321
Based Kelsch

>>58121865
Keepsuckingfaggotenjoythehate;P

>>58122083
So Italians?

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