Thread 58130802

Pokémon Unite is a 5v5 MOBA where your objective is to score more points than your opponent. It's focused on quick matches w/ minimal downtime. For Switch, Android, & iOS.

>Information
https://unite-db.com/
https://uniteapi.dev/
>Test Server (Needs VPN)
https://publictest-pu.com/index.html

>Upcoming
- Latias (August 8th
- Pawmot
-Empoleon
-Dhelmise
-Vaporeon

>Current
- Unite's 4th anniversary
- Latios has been released
- https://www.serebii.net/pokemonunite/events.shtml
- Patch notes: https://unite-db.com/patch-notes

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>>58130802 (OP)
Ahhh FUCK forgot to update the link the actual previous thread my bad
>>58069480

>all rounders
fuck this game and they said nothing about the chinese version going global

>>58130802 (OP)
What? We're getting Dhelmise? Don't know how to feel about this

I dropped this hellscape of a game a while ago and I have no plans to return but god damn they finally made a based pick in Dhelmise

LAWL

>finally get a proper hook hero
>It pulls you to the enemy

only timi

For me its Vaporeon
I'm Collecting all the Eevee's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEQXlI_Sfmo

>>58131002
They did show it pulling Lucario. Maybe it can do both, or it's 2 different moves.

so that;s it for the year, yeah? The rest are mega evo filler?

>>58131023
Oddly aquatic set of picks hopefully Flareon gets in at some point. Rock, ground, or poison type never ever.

>>58131023
>Groudon doesn't give shield and gets passed to pokemon who kill the buffed mon like red/blue jungle buffs.
Definitely going to make come backs harder and force players to retreat after scoring.

>>58131150
Groudon buff*

>>58131150
scratch that didn't see the yellow shield seems like it's ray buff but it stays even after the shield is broken and can get stolen when you get killed.

>>58131023
Green bg means support right?

>>58131241
Defender

>>58131241
Defender.
Orange is support.

>>58131262
>>58131263
Is too much ask for a non-faggy support?

>>58131023
So how many of them will have surf?

>>58131275
And no, Sableye will never be a real support

>>58131275
>implying my nigga psyduck is faggy
How about I give YOU a headache?

>pick ttar
>lose

>Pawmot: All-rounder
>Empoleon: All-rounder
>Dhelmise: All-rounder

Welcome back All-rounder Unite

>>58131023
Oops All-Rounders :)
Also Oops All Eevees ;)

Tiresome. At least Vaporeon's my favorite Eevee and they made it a defender

>>58131278
i fucking swear if empoleon has surf dude
wave crash and aqua jet are right there
>>58131023
welp see you guys in September

Waiter, waiter!
More All-Rounders please!

my radiant woman...

>3 all rounders please
How original
>And another eeveelution
Daring today aren't we

But hyped regardless for Dhelmise, excellent choice.

I have never won using Bilssey's Egg build
Wtf

>>58131275
>eeveelution
>non-faggy
Pick one

oh fug dhelmise was one of my never evers

>>58131127
Dhelm is for Halloween

>>58131077
They called this the year or Eevee, so I think Flareon, Jolteon, Mega Charizard X and another mega are the rest of the mons for the year

I unironically welcome more all-rounders, especially Dhelmise who I can see becoming my new main
I'll even consider giving monies to them just for that

>actual matches run smooth like butter
>menus are some of the laggiest shit i've seen in my life
How does that even happen?

4 years later and people still don’t know what to do and get stomped by hex gengar love to see it

>kill latios and latias in bottom lane
>like five seconds later latios respawns where we killed him
wtf, is that just something the latis can do?

>>58132627
It makes sense that a lot of all rounders are released as Timi officially considers them more of a mixed role than their own thing, they're meant to be able to fill in for others.

>>58133081
And they're generally a lot more fun to play than other roles so I'm all for it

>>58132790
yes they have hoopa teleport (levitate) that goes on a 90s cooldown

>>58131187
It only said that it speeds up scoring, so it's probably a weaker shield (we see Empoleon break it in like 3 strikes, though that could just be test footage stuff) with NO Scoring protection, and attack boost, and faster scoring with the "transfer on death" thing added as a factor against massive swings due to a single fight

>>58133358
I wish Groudon didn't have to die to save this game just so they can slap mega fug in the roster ant some point. Groudon and Kyogre with abilities that get boosted against each other would have been rad.

How long until we get the last eevees?

>>58134344
I bet we have all of them by next Christmas

>>58133699
>Groudon passive : Every fire type moves deal 2X damage and water moves are gone unless its KO
>Kyorge passive : The map is flooded and water pokemon can swim anywhere

Will they ever add him in my lifetime?

>>58134780
That thing is such an ugly unlikable shitty fucking abomination that yes it probably will get added

>>58134780
Hopefully never

Is there anything better than the juicy machamp ult? Big garde ult feels good too I guess but isn’t quite the same

>>58131023
Me too vaporeon, me too

>>58134780
>gets stronger the more teammates are currently dead
The ultimate soloq mon, I'd play it.

>slowbro and cinderace push in eleki with 50~70 % hp and like 80 points between them
>enemy absol has 1 hp and is running behind the defenseless goal
>they walk away
>enemy team gets bottom regi
Whywhywhywhy. Why did you even go up top?

>>58134344
This is the year of Eevee!

Expect Eevee events on all different games a couple of months from now

>Turn off enemy targeting & dashes being synced with current direction
>Still implemented anyway lol

FUUUUUCK YOOOUU GAME

Usage and wr data from ucs

>team gets assraped the entire match
>win one teamfight by sheer dumb luck
>instantly win the match
these cumback mechanics are too fucking op.they allow objectively worse teams to win matches every time.

>>58135263
>the one cram with 100% winrate
i love you surfin' bird

>>58131023
It's amazing how only in this game is Dhelmise the most interesting choice among the three. (even though I hate Nautilus so fucking much)

>comfey won't detach from me
>the fucking defender at full hp, and ignores any of our injured carries at fug

coming back to the game after 3 years, how do i git gud

New patch in 3 hours
https://www.pokemonunite.jp/ja/news/357/

>>58136067
As a Support Slut
Rescue hood buff is still useless
might as well use it to wipe your ass
17% isn't enough make it 20%

That Drain Crown tho,
who the fuck uses that aside from Azumaril?

>>58136042
Pick charizard

>>58136067
They are really trying that hard to make electro ball Raichu a thing

its shit
We want a sure hit move for someone who is squishy as Raichu
Electro ball is dodge able
Is that too much to ask?

I get it, these chinks want that trapping meme
they pick the wrong pokemon to give this kind of electro ball
they should have given it to a tank maybe Belibolt
Raichu is fucking one tap

>>58136123
I sometimes take drain crown when I'm jungling with an old allrounder that doesn't get infinite sustain built in, so I don't need to run back to base as often. It doesn't really help that much, but it does feel like it helps a bit if someone comes in to invade.

>>58136067
Odd that they're buffing Raichu's better move and giving Latias a buff on all of her regular moves when it was just mist ball underperforming. I'm probably going to fuck around with sweet kiss Comfey first when the patch goes up. As for the nerfs I'm not really sure that's going to knock Latios down much and Suicune is not winning games with fucking avalanche they need to actually hit it with a real nerf like making it squishier or slapping whirlpool, also Ho-oh is still going to be Ho-ohing over everyone even though that nerf is at least something unlike suicune.

>>58136123
Dragonitefags run Drain Crown quite often.

my girl drains me quite often...

>>58135815
git gud scrub

I haven't played the game for months and I decided to see how many pokemon from each gen have been added.

Gen 1: 21 (22, Vaporeon)
Gen 2: 8
Gen 3: 7
Gen 4: 6 (7, Empoleon)
Gen 5: 3
Gen 6: 8
Gen 7: 6 (7, Dhelimse)
Gen 8: 11
Gen 9: 5 (6, Pawmot)

The one in parenthesis is because they are not available yet.

>>58136493
Can't wait til they add the ice cream cones and trag bags to give gen 5 more representation.

>>58136493
even spinoff devs don't like unova

>>58136493
Interesting how every gen that isn't 1 or 5 is now in the same range, wouldn't be surprised if Ogerpon is on Pokémon Day to further even it up.

>>58136067
Goodbye Alcrieme it was fun while it last

>Electro Ball
Wtf?
Did Esports faggotry preferred using Stored Power or something?

>>58135410
For me its the death penalty timer.
>The only person who has a positive win rate in the team
>Everyone from the opponent teams unites me at 2:20
>Stuck with a 40 sec respawn timer while my team tries to back cap
The timer should be based on the overall performance of the team and not just one guy, its not fair how if I kill someone from the enemy team they respawn in 10 seconds while if I die its 30-40 seconds despite us losing badly

>>58135263
Theyll refuse to nerf Zoroark despite it being the face of mobility creep in this game

Blissey Safeguard and Helping hand needs a buff
Her eggs are shit useless

Pawmot leaks making him look like a reskinned Zeraora

>>58136067
>comfey buffs
Absolutely disgusting, it needs to die on sight for how bullshit it is on a fundamental design level.
>nerfing my girl alcremie
This patch was made to irritate me specifically.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7byxGSl8ty0
Did you guys get lucky with the predictions or lucky number?

>>58137348
I predicted LG in 3rd so I got 4pts but I was under the impression you got all the prizes upto that point all I got was the 300 coins kinda dumb and a nothing

>>58136831
I hate zoroark too but I kind of feel like speedsters are impossible to balance in general unless damage gets cut across the board for everyone defenders get shredded in a couple seconds speedsters have no chance game would be more fun if damage was lower fights lasted longer and were more tactical and less of a shit show nuke fest

I keep loosing with comfey on my team
Kek
I notice every team mate avoids where she lanes.
In solo q comfey is an automatic one less team mate.


She is 100% a Duo Q mon with mics on
You are rolling a high risk dice when you bring him to Solo Q
Pray to the Jewish God that you have a competent Scizor or Buzzwole or else instant loose.

>>58134780
honestly i hope so especially if they include its ability into this game
it would be the only time where dumbass teammates would make you stronger
>>58137587
dude i actively change my lane when i see this mon
like instantly cause i dont want to deal with that shit

>>58137587
I've only won my matches that I've done as Comfey post patch. The shield is pretty nice now.

>>58137587
>she
Comfey is a they/them sorry chuddy

>>58138133
>when you have more KOs as the defender than your jungling Gengar

>>58136493
Only 3 Unova mons may be retarded, but it's still not as bad as the fact that they haven't added a SINGLE poison type since launch, neither of which are poison focused and both use the same move (Sludge Bomb) which are mainly used to boost the effects of their main moves
this game is tragic when it comes to representation

>>58138481
Poison is my favorite type even if we do get one chances are it’ll be something like drapion with some other gimmick instead of a poison damage over time effect

>>58131023
>dhelmise

>>58136493
They should add Chesnaught to complete the Kalos trio

>>58136156
what if i dont like charizard

>>58137348
Oof, I think I only got a single team on there and not even in the right slot.

>>58139039
Nonsense everyone loves chawzawd

>>58137348
No luck with tickets but my predictions resulted in respectable 7 points (I picked Luminosity, ZETA and Nouns). Not sure what I will do with Aeos Coins yet.

>>58136123
What Azu attack benefits from Drain Crown?

>>58136554
There are definitely more gen 9 pokemon coming soon. Ogerpon would be a no brainer. If not Hydrapple or Sinistcha could represent the dlc

>>58139539
aqua tail
while it does already have ok healing you do notice a difference with drain crown on it
>>58137348
i would have gotten more points if i swapped luminosity and peru unite
i put them in 2nd and 3rd
the other one i just got wrong

>>58136067
Im sick and tired of these contrarian buffs.
"Oh look Dragon pulse is popular" nerf and buff the other one.

Fucking shit

Is drain crown good now?

The comfey discrimination is real
people avoid her like a faggot with aids

>>58139931
Good is a stretch but it’s probably playable on garchomp or outrage dnite chances are there’s something else that’s better in the slot tho

one wild Pikachu can render Goodra useless

>>58140215
Good.
I hate Comfey, and everyone else should learn to hate it, too.

Why doesn’t beamusaur get more play people position and stack on eachother so much it’s easy damage

been a year since i played this. whos op so i can abuse for quick masters?

>>58141552
Ho-Oh, Charizard, Suicune, and Latios are the current cream of the crop

So when do we get Farigiraf?

>>58141635
no announcement or leak for it but it’s a meme now I guess so it’ll probably be in

>>58141715
>it's a meme
Is it?
I don't pay attention to anything outside these threads and the Infnite Fusion threads when they were a thing, what's the meme now?

>>58141755
Some guy won at worlds with it

>>58141772
So it's like the Pachirisu guy?

Do all the new releases in this game give you a copy for free? Like the latios and latias dice events?
Or there are some times in which you need to use gems to get the new shiny thing? I'm new to this thing and Idk if I need to save to get empoleon

>>58141773
Not really, Farigaraf had been running train in VGC for years as an anti-meta Trick Room setter with Armor Tail giving a big ol fuck you to Fake Out without having to go all in on Psyspam. Since a decent amount of mons in the roster have been considered from their VGC statistics (Talonflame, Mimikyu, Urshitfu, etc.) I'm sure at some point it could be added.

>>58131023
I'm glad they're adding Empoleon instead Piplup

>>58141854
If I remember correctly, only legendaries have events like this. Other Pokemon need to be bought.

>>58142252
How much do normal pokemon cost with normal coins when they release?

>>58142252
Meowscarada also had an event as it was the first gen 9 mon added.

>team picks three squishy immobile attackers when they see the enemy picked zard and mimikyu
GOD, it's like these people WANNA lose or something.

>>58142266
between 12k and 14k nowadays

>>58142557
Thanks anon

creamy climaxing...

>>58143088
I, too, wanna give Alcremie my cream.

>Turn these off
>loljk
>Reset, reinstall, still nothing
>Ruining game after game

Fucking chinkass game, there's gotta be something to enforce this shit

>>58141552
Any of the decent speedsters(Zoroark, Talon, Meowscarada) can allow you to 1v9

Even with a higher win rate
nobody is picking Electro ball
LMFAO
its so shit, it needs a redo overhaul
give want the people want buff stored power!

https://uniteapi.dev/pokemon/best-builds-movesets-and-guide-for-alolanraichu

>>58141854
New releases sometimes get dice events or some free giveaway, but it's basically restricted to Pokemon Day or the anniversary IIRC.

Coins are the freemium currency, and you can get all pokemon with coins. New pokemon are typically coin locked for a bit after release these days, and can only be bought with gems for the first week or so on release.

Gems are the premium currency bought with real money.

moisturous thrusting...

I'm cursed I can only now win with a Blissey
Why is her Safeguard and Helping hand affects only one team mate
Wtf?

Where are the 4 points bot matches
Why is it not allowed anymore?

If I disconnect first then exit the game while in a shit match
will i get points reduction?

Bump

Accept me back into /pug/ when ya get a chance y

>>58144460
Helping Hand -does- affect multiple teammates.
If Safeguard affected multiple teammates or the whole team it would actually be busted.

>>58145451
Yes.

>>58145451
>Diagnosed with Broken Brain

Pawmot is September 4th confirmed

>jungle outrage dnite gets outdamaged by our full tank set heavy slam lax
Who are these people??

>>58148033
Who?

>>58148315
The fat orange fighting type Pikaclone from Gen 9.

>>58148161
ESpeed or DDance?

>>58148315
he walk
https://youtu.be/qsbAhGnzMKs?t=9

>find a ranked match
>someone goes AFK so match just stops after a minute
>5 minutes of life wasted
>find another match
>my team mate bans my pre-picked Pokemon
I despise the fact ranked is the only playable mode.

>>58148933
I think they should scrap draft in ranked entirely half the time 1-2 people are afk and don’t pick a ban at all other half you’ve got people picking shit way off meta for the lols I guess whole thing feels like a waste of time the only good thing about it is it gives you a bit longer to fuck with your loadout

of her sweet cream... i dream...

>>58148967
>I think they should scrap draft in ranked entirely
B-But SO many people BEGGED for draft mode in ranked, they can't just get rid of it!
I said a long time ago that this game and its playerbase weren't ready for draft, and look at where we are now lol.

>>58148967
They should set it back to 1400.

>>58148967

dont forget the people refusing to fill and still going attacker with your last couple of picks even though you already have two attackers

jungle invade snorlax in any of his dumb holowear will never not be hilarious to me first minute or two is the best part of every match in general really

Sir, a third treasure chest challenge has hit the building...

>>58149232
>trainer outfits
Whew, good thing I don't give a shit about those.
I though it was gonna be more holowear that I'll never get cuz the drop rates are so low.

When is the "Build in Exp Share" patch going to happen
Whats the hold up?

>>58149840
There's actually no guarantee it will, but Pawmot release will have an update and Empoleon probably will too.

Playing this game is so fucking miserable right now
The matchmaking for sure got changed for the worse
Without any announcements about it
I wonder why?

>>58147082
No its not, the shield doesn't last that long.

>>58147013
Sure, you're back in

>Latias is better at DPS than supporting
why the fuck did they make her a support?!

>>58150786
Supporter stealing a kill has been a tradition

>>58150786
They forgot how to make Supports, blame Psyduck for that

>>58150786
Her Dragon Pulse flying balls after hits should have been heals for your teammates.
She doesn't need to do that much damage

I think the reason why Zeta lost and is sucky is becuase Japan gets lumped and plays with South East Asian players and its fucking easy mode.
They are playing with literal children with internet barely at 10mbps.
If theres no Challenge there's no Growth.

Unite needs to confine SEA with its own server and Japan needs to stick with China and South Korea.

Shell bell would be nice if it only activated when you were down 10% health or so instead of every x seconds healing you for 50 health instead of 500

>>58150408
Hell yeah gotta have my weekly instrument stickers

Yeah I think the chinks want players with 3k battles to quit and make an new account and whale for thier items and license back.

Chinks are so evil

>>58150786
Dragon cheer is an amazing support move and mist ball feels decent now, dragon breath is good for special attack heavy teams. The thing about Latias is she's mostly designed to do is follow around Latios or give him places to land/jump in to help.

Our Win rate and Battles taken should be wipe clean every new season.

>>58151918
Yeah there's an option called current season at the top right at the Battle Record menu

>>58151057
>They are playing with literal children with internet barely at 10mbps.
Better internet than latam and fucking Peru won

>>58152051
To be fair the only thing Latin America likes almost as much as soccer is pokemon and mobas

Sceptile when…?

>>58153274
Two years.

Ranked games are OBJECTIVELY easier to win because you don't have to deal with this crap.
One of these guys have 15 matches. FIFTEEN. This matchmaking will NEVER stop annoying me.

>>58153274
Hopefully never

>>58153274
Empoleon soon means lucky to see sceptile next summer or the following spring in 2027

>>58153274
Right after Miltank.

>>58130802 (OP)
So like... how unbalanced is this game? I came here played the game, haven't lost a single match, I am now expert ranked and things are getting a LITTLE more equal in teamfights, but I still lead every game with a 800 to 150-350 score ratio?

>>58153669
Early ranked is largely bot matches, veteran is where you get mostly people and ultra is all people unless you go on a big loss streak, master is only people. The game's balance usually depends on the patch but you can find success with most Pokémon while the top mons generally get banned once you reach draft matches.

>>58153692
Oh, so I'm not actually going pro with my god tier 100% winrate Tinkaton?

>>58153785
Unfortunately, no.
Tink's great, but yeah, you're getting bots until you get to Masters.

>>58153669
When you reach 3k to 5k battles.
You will be automatically put into the "carry" role.
Where you are expected to carry newbies with less than 75 battles played.
Tanking all of that "free wins" you get from the start.
Trust me you will notice it.

>>58152051
It shows that Latam has better and challenging players than SEA.

Japanese players are the most selfish people that play this game.

>>58151983
Evereything should be wiped not just rank

So... I finally reached that moment in my achievement hunting career. Sableye. How does this build look?
Emblems: 7x yellow, 4x white
Held items: Exp. Share, Float Stone, Leftovers/Score Shield
Battle item: X Speed/Goal Getter

>>58154063
I dig it

>>58154063
Use fluffy tail and counter jungle

The chink who recoded the matchmaking is absolutely evil and dumb as fug

splurting love juices...

>>58155789
not now, blastoise

>>58155789
Sweeter than fruit juice.

This game is so fucking miserable to play

>>58156335
Just 11 more days. Groudon will save the game.

>>58138481
TiMi refuses to actually do a proper poison mon rep, because the entire fanbase left for this game would go nuclear seething if Unite got its own version of Teemo. Some people on LoL still mald and act like he's satan himself even today, even though he's not even fucking close to the top 5 cancer-tier champions on that shit game as of now.

Man, Hyperspace Hole on Hoopa is pretty satisfying when you don't fuck up your portal placements.

>>58156600
Man, I just wish I got good Hoopas on my team....

>>58156600
Playing Hoopa is like being a desperate slut, you're fucking BEGGING for people to use your holes, but they never do.

>>58156590
Sableye is Teemo

>>58154063
Went with Leftovers and X Speed. I like playing this gremlin but you NEED competent team mates to win. If they loiter around instead of taking advantage of Sableye's CC then it's over.

Achievement is pretty much impossible to get in normal circumstances so I might as well try Knock Off instead of Shadow Sneak. I really like Shadow Sneak though, it lets me harass much longer.

>>58154798
Turns out X Speed is too valuable, even when counter jungling.

So in which guild you guys are?
I also need some friends I have 0 on my list.
If we all play together maybe this game woulnd't be so bad

>>58157294
I'm in a basically solo squad that I made when the function launched. I only play solo either way though, but I know there's a couple people who sometimes play together in this thread.

>>58157294
If we all played together we'd run into 5-stacks with actual communication and get our shit-stomped in fast.

I only just started playing and just unlocked ranked. It feels like i'm playing against bots. I end every game with like 25+ kills.
Am i actually playing against bots or are the low ranks really this bad?

>>58157518
Lowest ranks are indeed bots, you start getting real people around Vet/Ultra

>>58157524
But why? Whats the point of playing ranked against bots?

>>58157530
To ease newer players into the game maybe? I hear other MOBAs do it too so I dunno, I guess its just industry practice

>>58157530
To give people free wins so they feel good so they keep playing the game, and the longer they play the game they more likely they are to start spending money.

>>58157544
Other mobas don't do it in ranked, well at least dota doesnt

>>58135611
Dhelmise is the most interesting of the three in general because it isn’t more startershit or eeveeshit.

>>58157637
I've never got one in Master rank.

What mons are you expecting to get buffed next patch?

>>58158593
if you fall below 1200 rank you will run into bot matches

>>58159195
Clefable
Wigglytuff
Blissey

>>58157637
I feel like if you are pass a certain number of battles they will stop with the bots.
Instead they will send you to a lobby of newfags that are bellow your rank
Yes even if you are in Masters.

You will be the carry.
Making rank absolutely pointless

>>58157530
Rank is indeed pointless.
They will still team you up with ultra ranks even if you reach masters.
They will even match you against Duo Qs

Theres no real vetting, thats why everyone here is fucking miserable

>have a teammate that only feeds
>game keeps putting him on my team
either the matchmaking is broken or there are no players in my region to the extent that only 10 people keep getting matched together over and over again.

If these chinks are too subhuman to code a working match making algorithm
the only solution would be

SoloQ = Win 11pts, lose 2pts
DuoQ = Win 22pts, lose 8pts

I would bet my ass an average masters players SoloQ has a higher lose streak
this will yield more happy players and more happy players = more people buying skins
You know it in your heart this is true

deep... passionate penetration...

I'm coming back to this game after one gazillion years; what's the status? What's the meta? Who goes where? How good is Garde?

>>58160340
Garde is ass, the meta is fast, blink pokemon shitting on you for the first 5 minutes, losing the teamfight when Rayquaza shows up; Damage oriented pokemon are deleting you, tanky pokemon are beating the shit out of you, speed pokemon kill you before you can even react, and all around pokemon are... pretty much worthless? I don't even know what support pokemon do, everyone is dying and all the fights are so short you don't really need healing.

>>58156925
>Playing Hoopa is like being a desperate slut, you're fucking BEGGING for people to use your holes, but they never do.

Lol, nice one anon I almost laughed out loud at the office and when you get a hoopa it's a trickster shitty hoopa, you get a useless supporter with no heals or CC.

timi: we hope you enjoy our game for years to cum, have fun.

>>58160356
That's a nice, deep and thorough analysis on the game anon, it makes me wonder how much worse these retarded devs can make this game, oh the infinite possibilities timi can fuck up this game even more.

>>58160340
Shit
The matchmaking in rank is absolutely miserable

>>58160340
Garde is doing fine just play well. Reminder that any "is X good" and "what's the meta" question can be answered by the api site in the OP that's what those links in the OP are for.

>>58160356
Not them but is my goat comfey still good

>>58160340
Also Groudon is replacing Rayquaza as the main objective soon and its buff is an attack and scoring speed boost that gets transferred if the mon with the buff is ko'd meaning flips aren't nearly as bad anymore.

>>58160554
Anon why are you asking a turbo shitter if a mon is good? Like seriously the guy said all rounders are worthless when they run the game that alone should tell you everything.

>>58160551
>>58160570
Thanks.

I ask about meta not in the item/skill pick sense, but lanes wise. I don't know who goes where, what a typical team tends to look like, and things of such nature. The stuff you learn by playing the game or having someone tell you ahead of time.

I had no idea Rayquaza's in as objective. I played when the game more or less came out, I only really remember Zapdos as the main objective.

>>58160587
Rayquaza gives a fat and fast score shield basically so Groudon is a huge improvement. As for where to go you can jungle as Garde fine enough or you can try picking a lane that has a good frontliner/exp share mon to help you.there really isn't a typical team in the wackh game but you should know that once you get a bit into master rank you'll start getting draft games and the usual mons to get banned there are Zard, Ho-oh, the Latis, clefable, and random speedsters.

All these years of dealing with Hoopa and I only just realized I should pick Surftoise everytime I see that jackass picked early in draft.

>>58160639
If you're good at the timing, you can also Heavy Slam people out of the move with Snorlax, unless that got patched.

>forgot machamp's ult now comes out immediately instead of when you press the button a second time
>end up whiffing it
>lose the game

Rank wouldn't be so miserable and hellish if we only lose 2 points.
Losing 8pts more than have you gain is wild stupid.
Its not like the chinks would lose money over it

The Meta is literally just the edge lord ganks all over gain.
I feel like no matter who they buff its always going to be

Ceruledge
Sizcor
Greninja
Lucario
Ageislash
The 2Catmons
That will always win.

Its so fucking tiring, and everyone just gives up after the first goal gets destroyed
Wtf

>>58160881
Better than remembering it changed but still whiffing it anyway.

Groudon will not fix anything, it will make things more miserable.
Everyone will just surrender if they dont get the fug.

I hate the getting the fug is mandatory at the end.
If this is just a slop kill the turrets game
None of this Groudon bullshit shit will be needed

>>58160916
>Everyone will just surrender if they dont get the fug.
So the same thing as it was before?

Rank is pointless and a chinese scam

>>58160916
>Everyone will just surrender if they dont get the fug.
Like they do now?
Also go play a different game, this one clearly makes you really fucking miserable.

>>58160916
Everyone already gives up after the first goal gets broken.
Seriously this chink game is hopeless.

>>58160881
Wait, Machamp's ult was like Tinkaton's?

So Groudon is suppose to flip the end after you already flip it with RayKwaza?
When will the fucking flipping end?
Just surrender when you fail at fug so the other team will not get thier score points, just be petty as hell.
Honestly adding Groudon sounds and feels like it is going to be.......miserable.

>>58161020
Yeah, you'd use the first part for the damage buff, then once you were ready you'd let the second part rip.
But uhhhh, I guess too many kids didn't realize there was a second part, or they kept accidentally using the second part immediately, so TiMi changed it to just come out on activation.
Kinda like how Charizard's ult used to start you flying in the air and you could activate the slam at anytime instead of now where you start off with the slam, a change that made him get cucked by Unstoppable for the longest time before they changed it to where he can now grab Unstoppable opponents.

Anyone else stuck with red dot over Events in main menu...? Can't get rid of it. Is there something exclusive for mobile users again?

>>58160886
No, this is dumb, everyone would end up with over 2000 points and the leaderboards would be populated with no-lifes instead of skilled players.

>>58160340
>>58160587
Menus still lag, micro transactions are still aggressive, Pokemon are slightly more balanced, matchmaking is worse due to smaller playerbase and bigger pool of games to choose from. Meta is full of speedsters so Gardevoir will die in a second if you are not careful but it can work wonders from the backline. Moonblast is a must on it in my opinion.

In theory, Pokemon with stronger early game (e.g. Lucario or Suicune) go on top while attackers with supporters/tanks go on bottom. In practice, everyone goes everywhere and the only rules are - no two Exp. Shares on one lane and no dumb picks on mid. Mid is for carries who get strong fast (mostly speedsters but some attackers and all-rounders work too).

On Theia Sky Ruins bottom objective is not necessarily better the than top one. At 8:00 Altaria start spawning in the middle, you want to get those. Rayquaza decides 90% of games. Even if you don't need it, you want to protect it from the other team to prevent an upset.

The good team composition has a tank, an additional frontliner, a support and two hard hitting backliners. An example would be Snorlax, Charizard, Clefable, Greninja and Latios. Currently crowd control and burst damage are most important in the game I would say.

>>58161096
I honestly like Machamp's unite a lot more now than it was before. Not having to telegraph it or spend an extra moment for double tapping is great.

>>58161119
>No, this is dumb, everyone would end up with over 2000 points and the leaderboards would be populated with no-lifes instead of skilled players
It already is full of unskilled players that got carried by triple qs with mics on
rank is pointless
Even in 2000k you will still get team mates from ultra.
Why are you still acting like there is a vetting or gatekeep?

If you want to fight with people with actual skills join esports

>>58159425
Chinks wants this game to stay miserable

>>58161096
Hmm, starting to make me worry about Tinkaton's ult...

>>58161137
>Even in 2000k you will still get team mates from ultra.
Implying you know what 2k is like.

>>58161160
Yeah, its miserable.

>>58160859
Cool if it still works but I feel like if you're using Lax you can just push them away with block.

>>58161123
Same man dynamic punch straight into ult feels a lot better.

>>58161119
>2000 points and the leaderboards would be populated with no-lifes instead of skilled players
And this is a problem because?
Just let people collect thier points.
Loose streaks are more common.
It will just make everyones rank journey faster and less aggravating
i bet an average player would still not get the stickers

>>58161180
>It will just make everyones rank journey faster and less aggravating
It would make it pointless. I don't know why you even bother playing ranked, you clearly don't even like the concept of it.

>>58161196
Rank is already pointless
If rank actually takes in consideration win rate and battles played
Even if the no skill reached 2000k
You should be able to not even know they existed they should be gatekeeped in the 49% win rate and you should not be avle to play with them

Rank points should best just for getting the stickers and shit.

>>58161196
Rank is the only one with points we can grind for.
People mostly play it for that and not for some shit fake list in a database.

>>58161119
This will just make the leaderboard scale up.
If you are already hitting 2k points then with a only 2 points deduction, these 2k leaderboard people should be ending up with at least 4k ranks points or even more.

>>58161326
The people at the top would be the ones playing the most. Who would climb higher, an average player who plays 10 matches per day or a pro who plays 4 matches per day? The math is simple. Five loses equal one win. It's a ridiculous concept.

>>58161421
The people at top would still be at top.
More plays =/= more wins
All things considered how abhorent the matchmaking is
Those who plays and wins more would still be getting higher points

>>58161421
Average player 10 matches per day will have a loose streak
He will most likely get less than 20
The pro player with get 40 or more if he actually is pro and wins consistently
Is Rank points the only mark of a pro player?
Win rate/Battles taken doesnt count?

>>58161443
>More plays =/= more wins
And that doesn't matter. Because more plays = more points.

Let's say you get 10 points per win and -2 points per loss.

Someone who plays 2000 games at 45% WR will get 900 wins and 1100 losses, this translates to 9000 - 2200 = 6800 points.

Someone who plays 1000 matches at 60% WR will get 600 wins and 400 losses, this translates to 5200 points.

To match someone with a 45% WR at 2000 games in points, you would need a 100% WR in 680 matches.

>>58161486
Thats whisful thinking that a 2000 games would win 900.
Loose streaks do exists and its more common.
And rank stats do reset at the start of a season.

>>58161443
More plays naturally equals more wins and more loses. A pro player who plays a lot would still be at the absolute top, however a pro player who plays seldomly would end up lower than average player. It's a simple math.

A bad player with 45% win ratio plays 100 matches.
45 wins * 10 points = 450 points
55 loses * -2 points = -110 points
340 points gained.

A pro player with 60% win ratio plays 50 matches.
30 wins * 10 points = 300 points
20 loses * -2 points = -40 points
260 points gained.

So you would end up with absolute garbage players ANYWHERE. Right now, you still get some bad players but there is a noticeable difference between 1200 and 1400 matchmaking.

>>58161523
Wishful thinking? Those are just hard numbers, what are you talking about?

>>58161486
Again are ranks points the only indicator of a pro player or in the leaderboards
the one with a 60% win rate would still be the pro one in that scenario.

>>58161486
Beat me to it.

>>58161527
>>58161533
>More plays naturally equals more wins and more loses
Considering how this game is match made
There are still more losses

>>58161535
>Again are ranks points the only indicator of a pro player or in the leaderboards
The elo system has been founded like 80 years ago, bro. It's a good measurement of one's skill. People with 50% win ratio will never reach 1600.

>>58161535
Thats why rank is pointless

>>58161552
Post stats.

>>58161527
The way I see it on an average day played
10 games - 8 lose streak you only gain 22 points and only loose 16 points
Regardless if you are a pro or not
Instead of loosing 64

>>58161443
Lmao more like
More plays = more lose = more points lost.
Thats why 8 points is miserable male it 2 only

>>58160340
Garde's good, especially after all the buffs. Go top lane, prio the bot objective.
There's a gacha event for a Garde holo with very nice move effects at the moment, check it out if you're willing to whale.

>>58161591
If you are really a pro
10 games, 3 lose , 7 wins = 77 points gained, only 6 points lost
Instead of 24.

>>58161196
>I don't know why you even bother playing ranked, you clearly don't even like the concept of it.
In't Ranked the only gamemode that actually has human players? Everything else is bot central.
I wonder when the chinese game modes get here if anyone will actually play those or will people just play ranked 24/7 like right now

>>58161719
Give us points to grind, tickets or item enhancers or else everyone will just go back to rank

I hate this f***ing game. I get OCD where if I lose, I have to keep playing until I win. I'm in yet another loss streak and the game keeps giving me games where the enemy team is much stronger than mine. I'm now down to a miserable 48.1% WR while repeatedly getting screwed over by enemy teams that are far more competent than my team. I swear there's a sinister matchmaking algorithm that intentionally gives the enemy team tougher players. I rarely get games where we dominate, and a lot of the games, even if things are going alright, we get positively murdered at Rayquaza. Stuff like trying to go to the zone and getting pounced by hidden pokemon, and the enemy pokemon are always in a big group while my team seem to be all over the place.

I have to keep playing because of this battle pass I've paid gems for, I have to keep playing because I have to f***ing WIN! I really hate this game, but I have to keep playing. Do I really, really, REALLY have to stop playing after every single loss, even though it compels me to keep playing until I win? One game I had recently had two idiots deliberately AFK because we were losing. I'm sick of this game, I'm sick of not apparently knowing how to play, and somehow I don't think my own win rate is an accurate indicator of how good I actually am, given the stupid matchmaking algorithm that repeatedly pits me against much tougher teams.

Why do you guys keep engaging with the resident schizo

>>58161891
nice copypasta, but it didn't help me win after shouting it at my teammates

stupid a9 treasure chest made me mistake it for gard's now I wasted 300gems for nothing

>>58162646
That's how they get ya lmao.
That's why there's three chest events running simultaneously.

>>58162738
yeah I have 217 tickets so far can't back down gotta remind myself to look carefully because of this shit UI they made

>>58157637
After losing 10x in a row
I'd rather gain 4 points than lose 8.

>>58158593
>>58159219
I've had bot matches in 1800+, UK/EU region

>>58157637
I'd rather have a guaranteed win bot 4 points match in 1800
Than get sent to a Japanese/Chinese server and be expected to carry Ultra randoms who just played this game 75 times.
God this is such a awful miserable game.

>speedsters are literally the only mons i have negative winrates on, a few of them 0%
How the fuck do you play these?
You're melee but you're squishy as fuck, and if you get stunned you instantly die.
Plus it seems like there's never a good time to go after the backline cuz their team just bodyguards them too well or they shit on you before you can reach them.
I'm so bad at this.

Here's your Top 20 mons after the balance patch. If you don't pick these and lose it's your fault.

>>58163866
>tink still holding onto 50%
yay

>>58163793
Simple. Level up fast in jungle and do guerrilla warfare ambush tactics on Pokemon about to die.

>>58163793
only the whorse is viable
Im guessing he is easier to control in Switch

>Stop playing for 4 days
>Suddenly get equally matched games with similar skill players
Its just that easy

Sableye anon here. Love this little nigga. After having bad experience with Greedent I did not expect Sableye to be this enjoyable.

Boosted into Confuse Ray into boosted from Shadow Sneak is insane for picking out solo targets. Enemy can't do anything for FOUR seconds. And you can hit him with another boosted or simply run away afterwards.

>>58163793
Target solo targets whenever possible in the midgame. In teamfights, let the tank focus enemy's aggro first then run in and kill squishes. Good timing completely turns the tide of battle. Someone always splits at some point or uses his CC leaving himself open. Gardevoir without Moonblast is an easy kill for example. Meowscarada can jump in, Night Slash, 3HKO and jump away.
Also, focus on clearing jungle and neutral mobs most of the time. If you are a speedster who can't kill then at least farm.

>>58163866
I was playing Suicune before Sableye and I'm not surprised seeing it on the list. This thing is a CC dispenser. Charizard climbing so high after last month's buffs was not expected though.

>>58163866
I was worried they overdid the buffs but apparently the Latias buffs did literally nothing it's the same as before.

>>58163989
For me its going for a backstab with sableye
Enemy gets feared and moves towards your allies
Stun them with knock off and push them father into your allies
End it with a confuse ray

Someone defending the goal
Confuse ray into unite
Dunk a fat 100 in their face while they are still teleporting

And my favorite
My team mindlessly rip ray
Enemy team notices and makes a beeline for the fug pit
Me(sableye) hiding in the right bush outside the fug pit blasts an ult hitting all 5

Sableye has no right being this fun

>>58159425
SoloQ should not matched or playing with DuoQ in the first place
thats why the rank elo is bullshit

>>58164045
>Me(sableye) hiding in the right bush outside the fug pit blasts an ult hitting all 5
My god. Might as well stop playing and start masturbating after pulling that off.

>>58163793
Sometimes there's playstyles that you just can't do but if you really want to practice Talonflame is the best place to start as it's easy to divebomb into the team.

This shit game is a humiliation ritual

anons im getting an itch to play again leave your matchmaking horror stories and balance complaints to scare me off away please

I just wish there wasn't a ranking system in this game

It makes losing stressful because losing is more likely to happen when you see your team and the enemy team

The fact that people can see your winrate and judge you makes this game even less fun and people try to get high rank all for some shitty outfits and some stickers and elo pointless leaderboards?

>>58160886
Another solution to make rank less miserable is to just let the people stay in the rank they reach
If someone reaches 1400 let them stay in 1400 when they derank and have a 10 lose streak.
This is the easiest fix

Seriously how can the chinks loose money over this?, rank resets in every new season anyway so we all go back to ultra after the season ends.

>>58163866
Damn, Charizard buffs were that potent?

>>58163866
Clefable got genocided

The only support that does anything is Blissey's Helping hand.
I feel like healers are a lose condition at this point.

The Groudon changes sounds miserable for supports that cannot kill
They will be targeted

>>58163866
>cram and greedent nowhere to be seen
Always sad when those autistic fucks can't break it into the top.

>>58164093
Power Creep is a total non-issue when launch/first-year mons can and often do get buffed back into relevancy every other patch. Charizard is the current most successful mon and Crustle just won Worlds.

>>58163866
>Highest WR is 53%
>decent spread of mons from each Class when taking the actual distro of mons in those classes into account (outside of Defenders being underrepresented)
Game seems somewhat balanced for now. Let's see how the next patch fucks it up

>>58163866
>>58165153
Wait, there's Greedent.
At least there's -some- order in the world.

>>58165179
Charizard's flamethrower set is at 55% so it's going to get nerfed soon. Timi is fucking retarded when they try to balance Zard so it won't happen but I'm still going to hope that they actually target flamethrower specifically and leave its general stats alone as fire punch is perfectly fine, so something like a decrease in basic attack damage from the flamethrower burn would be good way to balance.

New bread.
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