Thread 58130987

>>58130987 (OP)
>Not turn-based
Why should i care?

>>58130987 (OP)
Looks shitty and confusing tbqh

>>58130987 (OP)
this free-for-all but shitty because now you're incentivized to camp and steal kills
it's lame in shooters and even lamer here

>>58131001
You have Champions for turn-based

>>58130987 (OP)
This looks like a fucking cluster fuck

Game Freak can't even make a turn-based game work with 4 players at once. This is going to be a laggy disaster.

>>58131001
>not autistic why should I care
You shouldn't you fucking retard
You're not the main audience

>>58132649
It didn't lag in the video, THOUGHEVER

>>58131001
True fans embrace positive change, and Pokémon is taking steps toward that, in an unprecedented move. A shame it took them this long.

I'll come them for trying something new. But why does the city/environment look Iike bland shit? I mean the whole thing looks off, it doesn't fit together like they belong their. This the trailer, so this is the best they've got to show? Embarrassing

>>58130987 (OP)
This looks bad. Hate the cringe voice acting.
Have I mentioned how doomed the franchise is?

>>58132686
1 shekel has been deposited into your shill account

This is terrible and i wish i could kick the ass of zoomies that think it is le based because they are adhd faggots who can't simply play turn battles because "it is boring old man".
Dumb dark zouls fags.

Pokémon requiring greater skill elements is a good thing, actually.

Pirate all jewtendo games

>>58131001
you shouldn't
stick to "playing" turn-based slop when the mobileslop transactionslop "game" releases in 2026

>>58132686
Yeah this.
People don't like the idea their autism comfort game is going to change forever.
Why else they made Champions the PVP turn based game?

The only good game we're getting is MAYBE another let's go for a different gen. Let's Go Lopunny/Let's Go Braixen would be great

>>58132724
transactionslop
They literally said "You can't purchase VP with money"

>>58130987 (OP)
this is great actually and just further confirmation they're definitely moving away from turn-based combat in the main games forever
they had no reason to incorporate multiplayer in this "side" game since it's a legends-series game, but they still did

dragonite mega evolves and it unleashes a raging DRACO METEOR!!!!

>>58132743
there's paid version of it and i'm sure they are gonna monetize that shitty f2p mobileslop "game" some way or other
like i said, stick to playing your cancer meta turn-based slop in that mobileslop "game"
they finally made a containment for obnoxious retards like you so that the main games get more interesting and fun
za already looks like the best pokemon game ever, despite being set in a single city

>>58132686
TRVTH NVKE

>>58132772
>za already looks like the best pokemon game ever, despite being set in a single city
this is dumb zoomer hype and cope, like usual

>>58132686
Are you really a "true fan" if you want a product that is entirely different?

>>58132711
I love turn-based games more than anyone on this board, and I'm excited for action combat. It's clear they aren't dropping turn-based since champions is using it. This is another unique thing to the Legends series, just like the scrolls were in Arceus.

>>58132793
Looks like you'll be a true fan of the mobile app then

>>58132803
You mean the game that plays like Pokemon? Probably.

>>58132800
>just le roll dude
>just le move around dude
>just le spam attacks while waiting for a timer
WOW MUCH FUN MUCH HARD GAME

>>58132817
>just le pick attack dude
>just le wait for the opponent’s turn dude
>just le stand still and let yourself be attacked dude
>just le sit through the same text boxes and animations every round dude

>>58132838
Sorry retard but that's what pokemon and rpgs always were. You call yourself le real fan yet it seems you hate rpgs.

>>58132793
People have always wanted anime-style battles.

>>58132784
cool
continue crying about your shitty turnbased shit locked to a phoneslop while we enjoy an actual good game

>>58132854
>dodge it!
Nah.

>>58132686
this
i've been very critical of all the past entries on switch, but even i'm impressed with za
of course it took them a lot of time to finally catch up, but i can tell they put some effort into this game to make it presentable and playable
i imagine the shift to a different style of battling must have took a lot of resources, so the game being locked to a single city is excusable
and it's not like the city looks bad or anything, in fact, it's better than the bland empty areas in legends arceus
at least the city has stuff to do in it, including both catching wild mons and battling trainer mons

>>58132858
like I said, more cope

>>58132862
There is nothing wrong with having more control over the outcome of the battle.

>>58132876
Cooldowns are gayer than turn-based battles.

>>58132711
i enjoy turn-based games but pokemon being turn-based is simply unbearable
most mons aren't even competitively viable
enjoy your shitty cancer meta in your turn-based slop "game"

>>58132879
ok zouls fag

>>58132879
>Pokemon becomes real time
>every Pokemon is just a function of how fast it moves/attacks and how much damage it deals/receives

Real time doesn’t allow for as many unique characteristics, you’ll have Pokemon like Snorlax being strictly better than most normal types for example

>>58132849
Keep coping

>>58132893
Snorlax will be a gigantic target that can't get out of the way. But you are right that it's not going to meaningfully change anything from how the games are already played. There will just be more button mashing.

>>58132895
>coping
seeing a fire burning is fun, you can just jump into the fire anytime you want, bitch.

>>58132893
Moves won't perform 1:1. Stuff like Stealth Rock will be way less problematic if you can easily avoid them. You could spam ranged attacks while hiding behind Light screen, forcing your opponent to switch or move in etc. Who knows what the meta will be like?

>>58132893
isn't your argument self-defeating?
you claim some mons will be better because of how fast they would move, well, most normal types will be able to move faster than snorlax making it harder for it land hits, so how is it better?
and a counter argument can be made in snorlax's defense as well
it's bulky and if you are skilled enough and time your attacks well, you'll be able to deal tremendous damage to those faster agile ones with little defense
so it's pretty much a matter of skill and realizing how a pokemon functions, what role it plays, and ultimately, how good you are
it's like you people have never played anything besides pokeslop and it shows

>>58132912
the meta in mp of ZA will be camping to steal kills

>>58132912
It looks all close up basically melee distance, not ranged.

The rest of the new designs must be truly terrible if dragonite is the only one they keep showing off.

>>58130987 (OP)
this looks fucking horrendous desu

>>58130987 (OP)
looks like shit

>>58130987 (OP)
Looks cool, but is there an option for 1v1?

>>58132966
>Looks cool
No, it's garbage

There's zero reason not to have protect on every pokemon

>>58132986
reflect and light screen a better

>>58130987 (OP)
moving the trainer around during battle looks stupid. They should just have made the pokemon playable like the Synchro Machine from SV but this time it happens during a battle

>>58133001
>Barrier, barrier, barrier
>recover
Nothing personal kid

>>58133004
that would just be pmd

>>58132817
>reductionism
Lazy. I guess all games are:
>just press buttons dude
>just watch computer respond to button dude

I can already see people sniping you when your 1/3 hp left or even half in the first month till meta shifts to tanky stall monster.

>>58132686
Call me when they remove/replace freeze, confusion, paralysis, flinching, evasion, and OHKO moves

>>58132711
You're so stupid, making up strawman in your head to be mad at.

>>58133435
That's not a strawman.

>>58131001
>>58132686
Is this why TPC and Nintendo are suing Palworld? Because it’s too similar and looks like shit in comparison? I mean if they’re abandoning turn based for this, and there are already games that are real time; there’s no point of playing Pokémon anymore

>>58131001
Because you're an autistic omgon spergfaggot

>hahaha Legends ZA won't even have multiplayer!
>it has multiplayer
>b-b-but it doesn't count because I don't like it!
Textbook goalpost moving

>>58133451
It factually is.

>>58133698
Every time a new turn-based game comes out, you have faggots crying that it's not realtime. The same people who want Dragon Quest to "evolve"

>>58132711
why do action rpgs filter you so? are you too ADHD to actually pay attention and press buttons at the right time?

>>58132686
going from turn based to real time combat is a negative change, it's never worked for any RPG in the history of gaming. complex decision making reduced to button mashing and dodge spamming, every time. it's a stupid move.

>>58133939
Do you think the average modern pokefaggot care about this?

>>58133618
alright lets go anon, you sure told that strawman you made up in your head

>>58133942
i think they should, because i do

>>58133948
sorry abusive boomer dickhead zoomers stopped buying games the Internet confirmed that now fuck off

Do we know if we're getting the legends arceus status effects yet?
Drowsy would be a lot better in this context anyways. Rather than it just being your pokemon just sits there, its that theres a chance they might not move right away because they're nodding off

>>58133939
>pokemon
>complex decision making
You'd have a point if it was a PVP franchise first and foremost, but fact is 95% of players really do not care and as such neither do the people making the games, so for most players there is little complexity or decision making in a playthrough of a Pokemon game. Unless you wish to be laughed at and claim the games are actually hard.

>>58132931
>I NEED EVERYTHING REVEALED NOW NOW NOW NOWWWW!!!!!
have some fucking patience, withholding information to maintain interest until release used to be the primary marketing method for these games. you probably don't remember that though, bet you grew up in the gen 6 era where they showed everything in the entire game before release and left nothing new for the players to find, eh? this is better than that, kiddo.

>>58133965
The game comes out in 2 months and they've only shown 1 mega of 26.

>>58133965
>You just want everything revealed
Never said that. Just expected atleast 2 more mega reveals.

>>58133973
that's a good thing, it's enough to get the point across. we know there are new megas, that's all we need to know. they'll probably show us at least 3 or 4 more by the time the game's out and that's more than plenty.

>>58133980
>that's a good thing
Why?

>>58133982
it maximizes the amount of new content you get to find for yourself when you actually play the game, obviously

>>58133990
It makes no difference to me if I see it now or I see it when the datamines happen.

>>58133978
guarantee they've got a couple more in the hole to drop in the weeks before release to drum up some hype when it's actually relevant.

>>58133997
you are not the mass market, you're one hikkikomori on 4chan

>>58134012
You will NEVER be Japanese.

>>58131001
>>58132711
That's why Champions exists you idiots.

>>58133004
no, i think it's very creative
they want players to remember that they are not the mons in these types of games, they are still trainers retaining their roles of giving commands to their mons in battles rather than playing as the mons themselves

>>58132686
>True fans
What you mean to say is consoomers.
It's a change long overdue, but "true fans" have already long left the series because of the dogmatic approach NEW fans claiming to be true fans have taken to ostracize the old fans have taken simply for criticizing Game Freak and Nintendo's complacency.

>>58132723
Kys subhuman

>>58130987 (OP)
holy fuck what a slopfest, pokemon is done

>>58133004
yokai watch 4 did exactly that and was based

>>58130987 (OP)
I don't mind having multiplayer in legends games I just hope you still can evolve Pokemon that would evolve by trading but with items like they did in Arceus...

>>58134424
Arceus is different than ZA.
ZA they are focusing on this new battle system, that's why we have ranked and now this battle royal shit.
While Arceus was purely about catching Pokemons and filling up the dex. There is a high chance that you will have to trade for shit.

>>58134442
If you have to trade then the game is shit by default. It's not two versions. It's one game.

>>58134166
I am a campaign shitter, not a competitive worm.

>>58130987 (OP)
Well. At least it's better than SV

>10 years later, paying $540 just to have a rehashed version of this chaotic shit
l o l
TPCi is insane

i still find the concept of moving the trainer around with the pokemon nearby so dumb, why not make the trainer stand still or off camera and YOU move the pokemon around in the battle area and only have the trainer walk in when using item or battle items like mega evolution or something?
also it just hit me the Z-A is for ZA as in the engrish for "THE"
>Z-A Battle Club
>ZA Battle Club
>THE Battle Club