Thread 58141794

What changes would you make to mechanics/QoL if you were tasked with designing Gen 10?

>Make Ice-types super effective against Water
>Make Bug-types neutral against Fairy
>Add a toggle option that lets players fight trainers in double battles

>>58141794 (OP)
the first one I'd make would be the return of the exp share and shift/set toggles
>Make Ice-types super effective against Water
this invalidates Freeze-Dry though

and to no surprise every single suggestion in this thread so far is dogshit

>>58141799
>this invalidates Freeze-Dry though
Then give it a new effect

>>58141794 (OP)
I would probably nerf Fairy, but I have no idea how to without people screaming "this makes no sense!", "this type is now shit/busted" or "stop changing the type chart". I wouldn't add another type though.

>>58141806
how is it a dogshit suggestion to add toggles for two options you're forced into

>>58141809
or better yet don't change it and stop being garbage at the game instead

>>58141811
>I would probably nerf Fairy
it doesn't need a nerf

>B-BUH THE TYPE CHART
the strongest fairy move is fucking 95 BP

>>58141818
B

Remove gimmickslop
Remove DEI characters
Remove Ohmori

>>58141794 (OP)
>>Add a toggle option that lets players fight trainers in double battles
I'm surprised this isn't a feature already when the official competitive format is doubles

>>58141821
>the strongest fairy move is fucking 95 BP
Oh my mistake.
So for Gen 10, I will add a fairy type Fire Blast, widely available for most fairies, with a chance to lower Sp.Def.

No shiny locks, putting them behind events is fucking gayer than aids.

>>58141831
The “official competitive format” is both singles and doubles. Have you actually tried touching PvP before?

>>58141821
>or better yet don't change it and stop being garbage at the game instead
It's not about being garbage at the game, it's about buffing Ice and nerfing Water. You're a retard golem though so we don't expect you to understand game-balance.

>>58141821
>Pokémon can only be unbalanced if they're good offensively

Ah see there's the the problem. You're a dumbass.

>>58141851
>Pokemon can only be damaged if it says “super-effective” on the screen

Ah see there's the the problem. You're a dumbass.

>>58141843
No one cares about PvP.

>>58141857
Do... do you know what a defensive pokemon is buddy? And parrot my insult. Very creative.

>>58141799
So movecut Freeze-Dry. Hidden Power got removed when Tera took its place.

>>58141811
Make it weak to Fire

>>58141794 (OP)
pokemon gay lmao

>>58141794 (OP)
Add sound and light types to round out the type chart to 20 and perfectly rebalance all types, especially fairy

>>58141794 (OP)
some of these are probably already in SV and i'm forgetting but
>XP share and shift/set toggles
>wider variety of held items available throughout the game instead of just everything available at the battle frontier
>bring back hms for the "your mons are also your exploration buddies" feel, but there are more fast travel options aside from fly (or just axe fly as an HM and enable fast travel past a certain point in the game idk call a skarmory uber or some shit)
>mints available before postgame
>a better explanation on the existence of EVs and how they work, even if they're not directly referred to as such
>make base stats and EV yield viewable on the pokedex, even if it's not shown in exact numbers but rather a star ranking or smth
>IVs not on summary screen at first but once you reach postgame you talk to an NPC at the battle facility who upgrades your summary screen to let you do so
>more alternate battle facilities like the factory
>close combat has its distribution cut and is now mainly on slower mons for which the downside is more meaningful (or fast mons with lower base attack)
>ice beam as coverage for water types is restricted to mons that feasibly live in colder waters
>bug becomes SE vs fairy, or at the very least neutral (i swear to fucking god u-turn is the sole reason fairy resists bug)
>bring u-turn BP down to 65 (i'd say 60 but i'm not sure if we need scizor sending out 90bp pivot moves)
>pivot moves make you select your switch-in when you select the move
>regenerator is either nerfed or its distribution is cut
>double, or even triple battle campaign to give supportmons more time to shine
>gym leaders/e4 members won't use heal items in battle until you do(?)
>change intimidate to a 0.85x multiplier on incoming physical attacks while the mon is on the field so we don't need the stupid ass interaction bloat with all these abilities and items designed to specifically block this single ability
t. campignshitter

>>58142491
>some of these are probably already in SV and i'm forgetting
I can help with that I think, some things I don't quite remember
>XP share and shift/set toggles
not in the game
>wider variety of held items available throughout the game instead of just everything available at the battle frontier
this is in the game due to the delibird gift shops
>bring back hms for the "your mons are also your exploration buddies" feel
yeah def not in SV, the skarmory uber is though (it's corviknight)
>mints available before postgame
can't remember but you might get them in raids I think
>a better explanation on the existence of EVs and how they work, even if they're not directly referred to as such
definitely not in the game, game freak hate explaining numeric mechanics for some reason
>make base stats and EV yield viewable on the pokedex, even if it's not shown in exact numbers but rather a star ranking or smth
would be cool but same as above
>IVs not on summary screen at first but once you reach postgame you talk to an NPC at the battle facility who upgrades your summary screen to let you do so
I think this is in the game, might even be before the postgame actually
everything else you said isn't in the game (post got too long to reply individually)

>ice being super effective against water and not resisting it instead
Reddit

>>58142538
every complaint about the type chart is reddit

>>58141823
damn, you want no japanese characters in pokemon? bit extreme

>>58142562
Maybe they don't want white characters in Pokémon. These are Japanese games. White characters are the ones who are DEI.

>>58141799
Just make it 40% freeze chance on Water type Pokémon.

>>58141794 (OP)
remove IVs

>>58141857
parroting is an admission of defeat

>>58142538
Ice is already so frail they should go all in on it as an offensive type instead. Make it the glass cannon type.

>>58141794 (OP)
>Change Frozen status effect to Chilled which lowers SpAtk
>Make Psychic resist Fairy
>Make all entry hazards disappear after 3 activations
>Ghost types are all universally immune to entry hazards along with being immune to trapping moves
>Add a new move that operates like Sucker Punch but instead of doing damage it forces the opponent to switch to a random ally if they're using a damaging move.
>Make Electric super effective against Steel

>>58144164
Make steel super effective against electric because so far it's only weak to ground.

>>58144205
Why would you want to buff steel, the current strongest type in the game, both defensively and offensively?

>>58141799
>>58141809
Freeze-Dry has a 50% chance to freeze water types, but only water types can be frozen by Freeze-Dry

>>58144208
>Offensively

>>58144208
I don't want to buff steel, I want to nerf electric.

>>58144208
Best offensive is still Ground by a long shot, with Fighting and Fire similarly strong. God help whoever at Gamefreak thought Ground should stay OP when it has some of the ugliest and most unmarketable mons.

>>58144231
I forgot Ghost is also kinda good again as well since they gutted moves that let non-normal types become immune to Ghost moves, Ghost is way less shitty than Steel and stronger than Dragon offensively.

>>58141794 (OP)
battle animation speed x2 hold or toggle with shoulder button

Make the art/assets consistent, ie don't have things stick out because of inconsistency, eg stop mixing and matching high and low res assets together.

Get the art director back from gen 8, have different good looking areas. Improve animations for pokemon. Don't have characters walk in a straight line, stop for 2 seconds then turn 90 degrees it's fucking weird. Have characters walk and act natural.

Make the intro actually a good tech demo/cinematic intro. The gen 9 intro is god awful. It's supposed to introduce you to the world and should really show a sneak peak of the best the game has to offer, don't make it look like absolute ass.

Voice acting would be great, I know it has a million different languages though which can be a pain and have technical challenges + costs for physical carts (though maybe make the voice acting a download for chosen languages), maybe Pic jap and eng voice acting + local language subtitles.

Don't male the world feel empty, flat, lonely, etc, at least cities should have life. Most new games feel like this and it sucks.

>>58141794 (OP)
Make it 2D Sprites again.

Trust the plan. PLA was a test for an open world going forward. PLZA is a test for cities going forward. Gen 10 is rumored to be delayed and have split development to make the games more immersive and fleshed out, and this is coming from Discord leakers who have yet to be proven wrong

>>58141840
This. They feel they have the higher ground by gatekeeping them and believe people won't find them special unless acquired through an event. But they are wrong, a shiny hunt as autistic as it may be will hold a more valuable memory for a player because players get invested in their hunt, specially when the target hunted are legendaries/mythics/things like Bloodmoon Ursa

>>58144500
>trust lazy incompetent retards
No thanķs

>>58142518
>definitely not in the game, game freak hate explaining numeric mechanics for some reason
the worst part is that they did this in gen 6 (super training) and then just never did anything like it again. especially for something as influential as EVs
>>58144164
>>Ghost types are all universally immune to entry hazards along with being immune to trapping moves
please god no that string cheese fuck is already a pain do you really want to exacerbate it
>>58144468
>Don't have characters walk in a straight line, stop for 2 seconds then turn 90 degrees it's fucking weird. Have characters walk and act natural.
holy fucking shit you get it thank you
this shit actually pisses me off and the fact that it's STILL like this since the beginning of 3d only makes it worse
>Voice acting
would be cool if done right but do we really trust gamefreak/tpci to not completely fuck it up

>>58141794 (OP)
Grass needs type-matchup buffs.
Of the starter types, Grass is by far the weakest, being the only one with more types that resist it than it can hit super-effectively, and it has more weaknesses than it does resistances.
>Grass is offensively strong against 3 types, resisted by 7 types; Defensively resists 4 types, weak to 5 types.
>Fire is offensively strong against 4 types, resisted by 4 types; Defensively resists 6 types, weak to 3 types.
>Water is offensively strong against 3 types, resisted by 3 types; Defensively resists 4 types, weak to 2 types.
Grass should be super-effective against, and resist, both Ghost and Fairy.
In folklore, plant-based things like dreamcatchers are used to ward off spirits and the like.
So it would thematically make sense for Grass to repel and be strong against some spirit-like types, being Ghost and Fairy.
Both of these types are considered some of the strongest in the entire game, so giving them a slight nerf while buffing Grass seems fair to me.
>Buh buh buh muh Powder and Spore move immunities!
Yeah and Fire's immune to Burns. And both Fire and Water have real weather (Not terrains) that boost their types by 50%.
Give Grass some love.

>>58141794 (OP)
The game not look like utter dog shit but thats a big ask with Gamefreak.

>>58141794 (OP)
Barring a toggle on the EXP SHARE a rework is needed.
I'd suggest making the EXP SHARE work up to the gym cap and is boosted once you beat them.
i.e. Team gets experience until they reach level 20 but then only if they are in the battle after that point. Once you beat the gym its raised to level 30.
The worst part of the modern EXP SHARE is having over-leveled Pokémon in your party that you've:
1. Never used
2. Didn't mean to over-level.
I'm not suggesting removing the ability to over-level but just that the EXP SHARE stops giving the party experience once they reach the gym cap.

>>58141794 (OP)
Don't make it a menu toggle, make it a key item you can use to turn it on and off.

I have a huge document sitting around somewhere full of suggestions for how to improve concepts in Pokemon, most are good and some are terrible. Just for shits and giggles I'll throw out a really basic one most people would want someone crucified for suggesting: I think the effects of friendship should activate in pvp battles.I think it would make the game more fun.

>>58144830
Friendship is such a missed out mechanic. They should of introduced Pokémon that evolve with low friendship as well, and an easy way to lower friendship.
Obviously that kind of mechanic is against the ethos of Pokémon but still - if you have a move like frustration might as well make Pokémon that actually can utilize it.
Anyway the new friendship stuff is terrible. Hope its removed in next gen, was it gen 6 that started it? Awful mechanic and idea.