Thread 58142364

Why a Luxray over a Jolteon?

>>58142364 (OP)
most people prefer using pokemon new to whatever gen they’re playing

>>58142364 (OP)
Shinx appears earlier. People gravitate more towards early route pokemon.

It's actually in DP. Most of these Pokemon are, so you're most likely to see them on any Sinnoh playthrough. And with Eeveelutions in Platinum there's much better options like Vaporeon, Espeon or Umbreon. Electric isn't really a good type in Sinnoh, it peaks at Crasher Wake

>>58142364 (OP)
>>58142370 this and Eevee is post game only in DP

God luxray is so fucking ugly

why jolteon instead of chadnezone?

>>58142364 (OP)
>Not using Electivire
NGMI

>>58142364 (OP)
people may bitch that Sinnoh teams are to samey, but at least they're all cool Pokemon. Staraptor, Luxray, Floatzel, Roserade. All great

>>58142490
Roserade looks like shit compared to Roselia
Same goes for budew.

>>58142364 (OP)
Luxray is cooler. What else do you need

>>58142364 (OP)
Staraptor is king, as expected.
Luxray kinda sucks, though. It's slow and can't use it's high attack effectively.

>>58142490
Floatzel fucking sucks. Not even furries care about that thing.

>>58142490
actual lol

>>58142577
Wrong on both accounts

It's quite impressive how evenly split the Sinnoh starters are. I don't think we'll ever get a trio as balanced as them ever again.
>inb4 anti-empoleon contrarians

>>58142490
They're all shitmons in competitive. Even Staraptor is eternally trapped in BL because it does too much damage for UU yet is too weak for OU.

>>58142490
Platinum probably has the best field of mons to campaign with (maybe BW2 is better).

>>58142639
Gen 1, 3 and 4 are those generations where all the starters are solid picks.

>>58142640
Infernape, Empoleon, and Roserade were all good in gen 4.

>>58142652
>Torterra
>4x weak to ice in the snow region

>>58142431
>Eeveelution shillmon
You know why.

>>58142661
>Water starter when every region has like 50 fish to choose from
Torterra's just a cool dude
Though frankly ice isn't even really an issue assuming you're not bumbling through with your starter only or something. It's ice up to the one gym, and then the top of mount coronet I think. You're cruising otherwise

>>58142652
Treecko kind of sucks in RSE.

>>58142661
>He still only uses his over leveled starters in his team
Grim.

>>58142702
>Grass type in the "too much water" region
Wdym he sucks in RSE?

>>58142714
the two most common water encounters take neutral damage from grass because of their secondary types

>>58142661
It's not actually the snow region. There's a snow route and gym, but that's it.
Tort has a really good in-game learnset. Consistently gets more and more cool toys throughout the whole game. Infernape's probably better objectively, but Torterra feels really good to use.

>>58142364 (OP)
the eeveelutions are generally really bad in battle. the only one i'd ever consider using is vaporeon.

>>58142640
>competitive
who gives a shit
>>58142652
gen 5 too

>>58142714
It learns shit moves for half the game. Being strong against Water-types is kind of meaningless when your strongest option is base 20.

>>58142735
>gen 5
No. Serperior is an exercise in pain.

>>58142802
You get the TM for Bullet Seed before the first gym.

>>58142661
>Snow region
Oh sure let us look at the abundance of Ice-type Pokemon on the snow route-...
ZUBAT.
MACHOKE.
GRAVELER.

>>58142714
Too much water meme only applies to the back half of RSE, Treecko is good for Roxanne, dogshit for the entire midgame, then moderately decent in the back half because there's no better options for Grass/Electrics in Hoenn. Part of the reason the too much Water criticism holds any weight is because Water is too fucking OP in Gen III. Most of the Electric and Grass mons are shitmons and your best answer to 90% of Hoenn's Water types isn't either, it's Thunderbolt Gardevoir

>>58142822
KAAAAAAAANNNNNNTTTTOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>58142369
/thread

>>58142501 >>58142577 >>58142586 >>58142640
contrarians

>>58142639
Piplup is for females and homosexuals.

>>58142661
It's called a Pokemon *team*.

>>58142862
but enough about infernape

>>58142812
you might be bad at pokemon

>>58142364 (OP)
>Zubat, Machoke, Graveler : the region
>thinking you have a choice in team variety

>>58142522
I can guarantee you that Luxray wouldn't be on the list if it was a herbivore like Meganium is.
I personally believe that Pokefags have double standards when it comes to stats and go basedmouth if it's a predator and instantly prepare a cross for crucifixion if it was a herbivore with the same shit stats instead. I wouldn't be surprised Meganium wouldn't get as much shit it is now if it was a theropod instead of a sauropod, which would ultimately expose this form of Pokefaggotry.

>>58142875
you might have never used serperior

>>58142881
it's because meganium has no moves

>>58142881
then why come Gardevoir is Top 3 in Hoenn for popularity

>>58142887
This doesn't help yeah. Luxray doesn't have moves either but it can hit modestly hard with Spark, I guess

>>58142892
Tactical nukemon. It's not just cute, but it hits like a truck and has good coverage with Thunderbolt alone. It's objectively better Electric coverage than all of the Electric mons you can get in Hoenn

>>58142881
>I can guarantee you that Luxray wouldn't be on the list if it wasn't a big cat Pokemon

>>58142887
Yet people fawn over Sceptile despite having an ass fuck movepool that goes against its stats and a hidden ability that barely does shit for it despite already being fast to begin with.
Meganium also wasn't the one to be cucked out of Leaf Blade not had a mega evolution that doubled down on the ass fucked movepool and wasted ability.

Feel free to nail me to a cross and set me on fire, for I am NOT taking back what I said.

>>58142911
you were talking about aesthetics and now moved to mechanics

>>58142886
i have used serperior a great many times. i have used serperior so many times that i have gotten sick of it.
you need to git gud.

>>58142933
nta to begin with. Mechanics play a major part into the popularity of a Pokemon along with aesthetics. Aesthetically cute mons with good mechanics will be just as popular, if not more so sometimes, than aesthetically cool mons with good mechanics

>Meganium
Cutemon with shit mechanics
>Luxray
Coolmon with shit mechanics
>Sceptile
Coolmon with shit mechanics
>Gardevoir
Cutemon with great mechanics

Only one of these is a franchise darling

>>58142930
>that goes against its stats
no it doesn't
>Meganium also wasn't the one to be cucked out of Leaf Blade not had a mega evolution that doubled down on the ass fucked movepool and wasted ability.
come again

>>58142957
>Luxray
>shit mechanics
nope
>franchise darling
was literally the third most beloved Sinnoh mon on the poll and is considered by players to be a foundational team member

>>58142993
Lucario and Greninja got more votes than CHARIZARD? SHUT IT DOWN

>>58142993
Luxray can either Spark or Elemental Fang. That's literally all it can do. It looks cool, people can try to use it like they can try to use Charizard in any pre-Gen V game, but that's not really going to help it in the long run. Gen IV's variety, especially in DP, is very limited and more people are likely going to use a Luxray over a Bibarel even if the latter has objectively better utility and options

Electric has always been a third class citizen type anyway because Pikachu keeps everyone else oppressed from actually getting good moves. Only it and legendary shillmons are allowed to be viable ever

>>58143006
This truly is the shoah.

>>58142993
only greniggers and other shillmonfaggots wank off to this poll.

>>58143013
I'm sorry your boy Chesnaught didn't make it

>>58143008
>That's literally all it can do.
Meanwhile the most hated Pokemon (Simisear) gets the strong and reliable Flamethrower for its STAB while the beloved Luxray's best STAB in gen 4 was a recoil move.
>simisear is also faster
lmao, It really is Pokefag retardation.

>>58142640
>caring about how they deal in VGC and/or fanfic metas when building an in game team
Holy Autism

>>58142881
>herbivore
What? Shinx is really cute, Luxray is really cool, and Luxio is the rare middle evolution that's a good mix of the earlier and later stages. It's a solid line, has nothing to do with their food preferences.

>>58143008
Luxray does have some things going for it. Almost perfect availability, intimidate is really good, Shinx evolving at 15 is very good, stab spark does work for quite awhile.
Now that I think about it, it might be better to say that Luxio is good, not Luxray. Strong in the early to mid-game, then it falls off, especially compared to Magnezone or Jolteon.
I'm talking about Pokemon like fucking Fire Emblem units, what the hell.

>>58142364 (OP)
>Why a Luxray over a Jolteon?
The image you posted said it pulled teams for 5 different games, 4 of which don’t have Eevee available until after the story is complete. Pic related isn’t really representative of a normal person’s play through since they were compiled of a hundred-something nuzlocke teams, but you get what I mean

>>58142364 (OP)
>>58143420
Why would I spend the one Eevee you get in the entire game on Jolteon instead of Leafeon who is new to gen 4?

>>58142369
Then why do so many people still use Gyarados >>58143433
Because it's easy and available.

>>58143433
>Not using Heracross
No reason it should rank lower than Milotic or Snorlax of all things

>>58143436
Jolteon is better

Real question is why not use it for an even better Vaporeon, Espeon or Umbreon

>>58143433
i always thought weavile was sticking her ass out in the platinum sprite and it makes me hard

>>58143491
That sprite is male

>>58143540
even better!

>>58142364 (OP)
if I remember correctly for me it was
>Empoleon or Torterra, I think I decided to reset from one to the other, don't remember
>Roserade
>Bronzong
>Skuntank
>.....?
>...........?
I remember really wanting drifblim but couldn't be assed to go through the trouble of its autistic encounter requirements. I also wanted Vespiquen but I think I didn't understand how to get a combee encounter. Either that or I ended up only ever running into males. Wish I would have just used it anyway, I guess. I also think I wanted a hippowdon but ended up not using it. I remember being very disappointed in the variety of mons available.

>>58142577
Floatzel's pretty good, decent speed, attack, and coverage with Ice Punch and Crunch. It takes some shards to get going and being stuck with Aqua Jet until Waterfall is shit, but it's a good mon
>Not even furries care about that thing.
it's a BBW weasel, furries love that fucking line >>58140642

>>58143583
I never see a reason to use Floatzel in DPPt when Empoleon, Gyarados, and Gastrodon exist. When I had the opportunity, I even transferred over a Ranger Manaphy egg for one playthrough instead.

>>58143583
>it's a BBW weasel
That's not Mienshao after I gave it few (hundred) Poke Puffs.

>>58143433
its retarded they dont let you get bebe's eevee in bdsp

>>58144459
>Empoleon
for girls and gays
>Gyarados
non-native
>Gastrodon
lame-ish

Floatzel is the coolest and easiest option

>>58144512
>Floatzel
lispy furry shit


Come home, White man.

>>58144512
>coolest
It’s a furry that literally inflates. I could not think of a lamer option if I tried.

>>58143436
Leafeon sucks ass in Platinum. Its only decent attacking move on its physical stat is razor leaf until level 71. You get better mileage out of using most of the older ones, or even just waiting to pick up Glaceon (but by then you get Weavile and Froslass who aren’t slow as shit).

If you want a grass type, just use Tangrowth.

>>58142501
Okay faggot, whatever you say.

>>58144581
just give it a fucking miracle seed

>>58144498
Is it really when everything surrounding bdsp is flat out retarded?

>>58144557
luxray and lucario and infernape are also "furries"
you're just jealous it can inflate its third leg to be bigger than yours

>>58142369
Fpbp

>>58144710
infernape is just a monkey.

>>58142364 (OP)
Luxury mogs the fuck out of it

>>58142586
Dilate

>>58143486
feebas is easier to get than hera

>>58144710
None of those are anywhere close to the inflating rantsona. Infernape and Luxray are literally just cartoon animals.

>>58144613
Why do that when you can give your miracle seed to Roserade/Tangrowth and actually do damage? Congrats- Leafeon’s razor leaf with a miracle seed now barely outpaces the neutral damage it does when using strength. What a total shitmon.

>>58142364 (OP)
mid game encounter
team's full by then
stupid question