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Anonymous No.58142917 >>58142945 >>58142946 >>58142955 >>58143072 >>58143087 >>58143141 >>58143166 >>58143171 >>58143186 >>58143191 >>58143767 >>58144004 >>58144041 >>58144047 >>58144090 >>58144427 >>58144502 >>58144601 >>58144736 >>58144778 >>58144880
Mediocre graphics aside, do you guys consider Scarlet/Violet(+DLC) a "complete" Pokémon game? Or do you think the game is an "unfinished slop"?

Personally, I think the base game should've had a Battle Tower-equivalent and unlimited Gym Leader rematches. Otherwise, it feels quite complete in all other aspects. But the fact that they didn't add a Battle Tower-equivalent even in the DLC rubs me the wrong way.
Anonymous No.58142945 >>58144047
>>58142917 (OP)
I think its a scam and everyone that worked on it deserves to be executed immediately
Anonymous No.58142946
>>58142917 (OP)
I consider it complete. The lack of a Battle Tower doesn't bother me as much because of how much fun I have traveling all over the place. In past games, you felt railroaded to get anywhere or had to deal with hallways or incessant grass/cave encounters. And that stifled the enjoyment of just going around the region for fun.
Anonymous No.58142955 >>58144047
>>58142917 (OP)
I think its an ambitious game and everyone that worked on it deserves to be applauded immediately
Anonymous No.58142959
Unfinished slop. I worked in game testing a while back (not on any pokemon games), and this feels like an early internal alpha build where a lot of things are placeholders ready to be swapped out with finished assets etc, that and the open world doesn't help at all
Anonymous No.58142963
Slop. I give it a 3.4/10
Anonymous No.58143025
It may be shit but I not once felt "we wuz robbed" or "that's it?".
Even if they did it extremely incompetently, the vibe it gave me was that they set to do all they wanted to do with it. Didn't felt like they left half the game on the cutting room.
So yes, it may be shit, but it's a full whole turd.
Anonymous No.58143072 >>58144650
>>58142917 (OP)
It's three quarters baked and it'll almost certainly stay that way. SV is laughably easy even for a casual demographic, and it's a bizarre limbo of the old system and something new and experimental that hasn't quite found its footing yet, like it doesn't even know what it wants to be. There were a LOT of problems at launch, suffice to say.
I actually liked the open world aspect very much, but Paldea's overworld is very rough and you can tell even now by looking at it all that the devs were rushed into getting the game out quickly, which by now is industry standard for GameFreak execs. That being said, with all the fixes and QOL updates since launch and the performance upgrades on Switch 2, SV is at the very least presentable. Not exactly the standard of quality, but it's a good step in the right direction compared to whatever they were doing with Sword and Shield (I get it, you had the sudden jump to a new system and coof meant a lot of sudden changes to work dynamics but SWSH was scummy, shitty kusoge trash and that's saying something when SV is "bad" compared to past entries).
There's a noticeable improvement in both terrain and cutscene quality in the dlc areas, I was actually surprised at how smooth and well-animated it all was, which only sucks even more because it shows they could have put that kind of effort into the base game if they just had more time and weren't pressured into cutting corners by out of touch salarymen who are only interested in making a line go up for that year's financial quarter.
And as many flaws as SV has, the story, pacing and writing is surprisingly not one of them. The cast is memorable for once, and the subplots with Arven and his dogmon and Kieran were kino, I don't care what anyone else says.
So, yeah. It was an ambitious project and that charm shows at times, and it should have been like this at launch, but it is what it is. Call it copium, but I hope at the very least they get their shit together for once for Gen 10.
Anonymous No.58143087
>>58142917 (OP)
I liked that they gave all the mons realistic textures, I hope they keep that going forward
Fix Dragapult's tail tho
Anonymous No.58143097 >>58143113 >>58143159
Finally a game that's exclusively for transpersons who were born in the wrong body and are actually a different gender than the one they were born as. 10/10
Anonymous No.58143113 >>58143125
>>58143097
>Brings trannies up out of nowhere
Obsessed o algo
Anonymous No.58143125
>>58143113
>o algo
you live in trannyville, your uncle is probably one if you aren't
Anonymous No.58143141
>>58142917 (OP)
I dunno. The open world feels empty, and the only really interesting part of the base game is Area Zero. Everything before feels kinda uneventful.
I do appreciate that the characters have personality. Even if Nemona had the weakest plot out of all three friends, she at the very least had something. Unfortunately, the MC feels very bland.
The game is also easy (wow, shocker) but Ghetta is just criminal.
I did not play the DLC however. I did see that the 2nd DLC had some actually threatning trainers (like Kieran). It is a step in the right direction, but this is also something the BASE game really needs.
The Tera raids are better than the Dyna ones imo.
But overall, the somewhat empty open world, the "story" before Area Zero, the fact that you can't even enter most houses, and all the glitches when the game came out... All of these tell me that there is something missing with this game, thus I can't really call it a "complete" Pokémon game. Not everything is bad, but there is still many flaws.

Also please Game Freak, don't EVER release a game in such pitiful state ever again. Patches are ok but having to patch TONS of glitches upon release is just sad.
Anonymous No.58143159
>>58143097
I agree. It's good that there's a game for transhumans. Sometimes I wish I had gender dysphoria so I was allowed to play it, but I have a wife and five kids. Transhumans deserve to finally have their very own game, though. So I will rate it 10/10 for being the first video game for transhumans only.
Anonymous No.58143166
>>58142917 (OP)
Slop. It's incomplete, unfinished, and whatever is there is of extremely poor quality.
Anonymous No.58143171
>>58142917 (OP)
Slop from start to paid dlc finish.
God, pokemon's gone to the dogs...
Anonymous No.58143186
>>58142917 (OP)
Is it complete? Yeah mostly
Is it polished? Lol, lmao even
Anonymous No.58143191 >>58143197
>>58142917 (OP)
No they were pretty boring, one of the worst Open World games I've ever played.
Anonymous No.58143197 >>58143199 >>58143202 >>58143724
>>58143191
>he didn't play shart and shit
at this point anyone saying that is outing themselves as being casual shitters who have never seen how low gayfreak can go
Anonymous No.58143199 >>58144515
Base game is unfinished garbage. After the DLC (and the $450 performance patch named Switch 2) it actually feels complete and playable. If I hadn't gotten a (cheaper) Japanese copy and bought the DLC off of Amazon.co.jp for half off, I'd feel ripped off.

I wouldn't recommend the game to anyone except shiny hunting autists, since that's pretty much all the game is good for.

>>58143197
tbf SwSh weren't open world.
Anonymous No.58143202
>>58143197
You're on /vp/ retard. Almost everyone here is a casual underage shitter who thinks parroting the same talking points is hilarious.
Anonymous No.58143724 >>58143778
>>58143197
SV is worse, neither are great. SV is the worst game *so far*. Though I bet it won't stay that way for long
Anonymous No.58143767
>>58142917 (OP)
as a returning/new player I really liked this game and I like the raids
being able to near perfect pokemon and versions exclusives online was nice
Anonymous No.58143778 >>58144180
>>58143724
>SV
>Worse than SWSH
Bait used to be believable.
Anonymous No.58144004
>>58142917 (OP)
Great game with the dlcs made it even better. If the performance was better and the glitches of the environment(specially in the last dlc), id rate it higher.
Anonymous No.58144041
>>58142917 (OP)
It basically what Sword and Shield should have been but it's still incomplete
Anonymous No.58144047 >>58144787
>>58142917 (OP)
Definitely unfinished slop. There’s just nothing to do, especially after the main story, and what is there is hot garbage.
>>58142945
Real
>>58142955
Fake
Anonymous No.58144090
>>58142917 (OP)
Its fun unfinished slop but with the best supporting cast in any pokemon game ever, easiest way to get into competitive, and best way to get shiny Pokemon. Had more fun with it than XY or SuMo which all felt shallow in comparison.
Anonymous No.58144180 >>58144188 >>58144195
>>58143778
Nothing is worse than SV
Anonymous No.58144188
>>58144180
That's just, like, your opinion, man
Anonymous No.58144195 >>58144735
>>58144180
>He didn't see the mouse cursor left in SwSh's """credits"""
Lurk a thousand years more tourist
Anonymous No.58144329
>Still seething after 2 years
>N-no my favorite slop is not the worst game in the series it's only the 2nd worst! >:(
Do violent scat fags really kek
Anonymous No.58144427
>>58142917 (OP)
Incomplete, but not slop. It feels like there was a third DLC that was planned but eventually cut, given you get the alt professor's book and... it just changes the title screen. Maybe it would've been a foray through the time machine into the alternate world? Or into the past to meet Heath, since he said he met someone in a trance state/dream? And then there's Arven taking on the gyms, which likely won't get elaborated on.
Anonymous No.58144472
The best games since x/y, but that's an easy bar to cross, and it's certainly not worth full price + 2 fucking dlc.
But It'd call it a full package, and if for some reason you can snag it for 40 dollars the dlc is at least worth the price of admission.
Anonymous No.58144486
It's the best game in the franchise
Anonymous No.58144502
>>58142917 (OP)
Yes it is my most played pokemon game to date.
Anonymous No.58144513
Sloppiest slop that ever slopped. It's the worst game in the franchise
Anonymous No.58144515 >>58144518 >>58144533
>>58143199
It isn’t even good for shiny hunting as the shinies don’t make sound in the overworld unlike PLA
Anonymous No.58144518
>>58144515
Yeah but you get shinies out the ass, even compared to PLA
Anonymous No.58144520
It's a game in the franchise
Moose !!Tm8/4MnbTW4 No.58144529 >>58144540
I can't speak for the DLC since I haven't blown money on it yet but from the base game itself it feels like PLA introduced capture mechanics that should have been present in SV from the start if they were already going to use the sneaking and spawning aspects of it. There should have ultimately been a level scaling system for gyms as well, at least to the point of the badges you earned/Team Star camps you cleared + your average level. If you decide to go against the grain you can easily end up going backwards just because you wanted to explore. I also think Geeta not starting with her ace was an extremely poor thought process since that would have at least given her some difficulty.

I also think the Switch 1 performance, Pokemon amounts, and visuals were insulting. Going to a Switch 2 is like night and day and it's insane they were confident releasing it as-is on the S1 without at least ironing out the performance issues because dear lord it's like having your eyes opened on the Switch 2.
Anonymous No.58144533
>>58144515
If the shinies made a sound it would be way too easy to farm shinies. It's already easy enough as is.
Anonymous No.58144540
>>58144529
>It's because of hardware
No it's because gamefreak are incompetent and lazy
Other titles look good and run well on switch 1, also was released well before switch 2 of course. They should be ashamed of themselves
Anonymous No.58144601 >>58144612 >>58144694
>>58142917 (OP)
It's the best game since Emerald.
Anonymous No.58144612 >>58144623 >>58144694
>>58144601
>Implying anything after Crystal was good
I hate zoomoids so fucking much, holy shit.
Anonymous No.58144623
>>58144612
I'm glad I'm not a joyless faggot like you.
Anonymous No.58144650 >>58144654 >>58144683
yes and no? from a gameplay and content perspective, it doesn't feel like there's anything more that the devs clearly wanted to do but couldn't get around to (think "The Battle Frontier Project has started!" or the lumiose power plant door/southern kalos). even if the gameplay could have used more refinement to make it feel more enjoyable it still feels like it was the intended (if misguided) vision going in. the story elements seemed mostly realized as well if my memory serves.
but on the other hand, holy SHIT everything else makes it feel like a fucking ps2 game prototype disc. ir runs like ass, it's the visually worst mainline game by a fucking landslide (seriously the alpha screenshot we got of the player's house had way better lighting than the final product how did gamefreak even fuck up that badly), and the amount of bugs in the game (while hilarious to dick around with) is just an honest to god embarassment for the highest grossing franchise worldwide, i have zero idea how anyone at gamefreak thought "yeah this is good for release"
>>58143072
>it's a bizarre limbo of the old system and something new and experimental that hasn't quite found its footing yet, like it doesn't even know what it wants to be.
personally i found this to be a bigger issue with swsh, the wild area being a big part of that limbo. SV feels more realized as far as "open world pokemon" goes but i can see how you'd find it still not quite there yet
>but I hope at the very least they get their shit together for once for Gen 10.
copium 100%, this has been the cope cycle for the past fucking decade basically but i want gen 10 to be good too
Anonymous No.58144654 >>58144683
>>58144650
I can't imagine it being worse. Unless they're even lazier and make it effectively unplayable on Switch 1's and make it run on the Switch 2 like SV on the Switch 1. Uhhhhhh.... i don't feel so good
Anonymous No.58144683 >>58144688
>>58144650
i just now noticed "graphics aside" in the OP jesus fuck i am illiterate (but i do think they still make the game feel unfinished regardless)
>>58144654
is gen 10 even going to be on switch 1? i just assumed it'd be a switch 2 exclusive
Anonymous No.58144688
>>58144683
>switch 2 exclusive
You'll have to wait for the switch 3 for it to not run like shit
Anonymous No.58144693
Game feels complete, there’s obvious things they could have and should have added but you can continue that line of thinking forever for any game.
Anonymous No.58144694
>>58144601
True.
>>58144612
Most zoomers started with Gen 4, retard. All early 90s babies that I know love Gen 3 despite playing since Gen 1, including myself. Get yourself some taste.
Anonymous No.58144700
>Play PLA
>Items actually look like what they are on the ground
>Play SV
>Every item is a fucking pokeball until you pick it up

There's so many things that just rub me the wrong way desu
Anonymous No.58144723
The tech issues were very unfortunate, but it was probably my most played game in the franchise since Gen 2.
Anonymous No.58144735 >>58144782
>>58144195
NTA but a mouse in the credits is nothing compared to the myriad of issues SV has.
But they're both terrible games. Arguing which is worse is like arguing which rancid shit smells the stinkiest.

They are BOTH shit.
Anonymous No.58144736
>>58142917 (OP)
On one hand, I consider it an improvement over Gen 8. On the other, even though I had fun with the game (enough to get the DLC, even), I don't think it's a good game.

I think I'm just sick of Open Worlds; Nintendo clearly can't do them.
Anonymous No.58144778 >>58144831
>>58142917 (OP)
Improvements were done with new ideas (Examples: movement with Rideons, Synchro Machine, "3 main objectives to follow freely"), gameplay QOL (Saving in front of a wild shiny persists that spawn, Mirror Herb for Egg moves, Items sold mostly in stores and the new Item Printer) and storylines (Area Zero's in particular but all of them were good when compared to SWSH's).

However there are deficiences in execution of several areas: like actual perfomance with all those bugs or lag; parts of gameplay lacking (Examples: Tera raids battle flow and their scouting through world map) and some of their ideas (Examples: shiny locking all legendary encounters, even the older ones and their egg system through picnics)
Anonymous No.58144782
>>58144735
Nooooo shut up India is stinkier than Pakistan!
Anonymous No.58144787 >>58144801
>>58144047
>SV is an ambitious game
Correct. First real Pokémon open-world by GameFreak.

>everyone that worked on it deserves to be applauded immediately
Correct. The games felt finished. Therefore, job well done.

>NOOO MUH GRAPHICS AND MUH GLITCHES THAN NEVER HAPPENED SINCE THE FIRST PATCH
Go watch another fucking Sony novels on your PS5, stupid snoy.
Anonymous No.58144801 >>58144814
>>58144787
>NOOO MUH GRAPHICS
graphics are the most important part of a videogame (it's not called an audiogame is it) and only nintendie copelets believe otherwise
Anonymous No.58144814
>>58144801
>graphics are the most important part of a videogame
They really fucking aren't. The GAMEPLAY is. There's a whole genre of games that are exclusively textbased.
Fuck off and go slurp your "cinematic experience" moviegame slop. You don't actually like games.
Anonymous No.58144831
>>58144778
>new ideas
they wanted you to be able to drive around like GTA so they made a motorcycle pokemon, hardly a new idea
Anonymous No.58144880 >>58144942
>>58142917 (OP)
Never played the DLC. I didn't enjoy the base game at all.
Anonymous No.58144942 >>58144946 >>58144950
>>58144880
Why not?
Anonymous No.58144946
>>58144942
Nta, it wasn't fun, very disjointed. Maybe if it was finished properly and a polished game
Anonymous No.58144950 >>58145002
>>58144942
>Didn't like the new Pokemon
>Didn't like any of the NPC's
Those were the biggest two reasons.
Anonymous No.58144991
incredible game
Anonymous No.58145002 >>58145009 >>58145015
>>58144950
Really? None of the new Pokémon? Fucked up. Kilowattrel is probably unironically my favourite regional bird. I think it's got a lot of pretty good designs, definitely better than Gen 8.
Anonymous No.58145009
>>58145002
>Really? None of the new Pokémon?
Not even one, sadly. When you don't like any of the new characters in a game, it's very hard to find a reason to keep playing.
Anonymous No.58145015 >>58145106
>>58145002
>definitely better than Gen 8
not a high bar to clear but while Gen 9 has higher highs than Gen 8 it also has lower lows such as a colossal amount of evolution/pre-evolution padding resulting in a lot of "it just gets bigger" lines such as the Pawmi line, Cetoddle, Dudunsparce, Tandemaus, Bramblin and Finizen which they clearly did because of an excessive amount of single-stage mons (which there are still a pretty large number of, even not counting the paradoxes)
Anonymous No.58145106 >>58145117 >>58145145
>>58145015
>Cetoddle
That's definitely not a "it just gets bigger" line.
Anonymous No.58145117 >>58145145
>>58145106
actually it's the most obvious example of an "it just gets bigger" line
Anonymous No.58145145
>>58145106
>>58145117
>Gets Bigger
>Angry Eyes
I'd say it fits the bill nicely.
Anonymous No.58145162
Awful game