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Previous: >>58134410

News post from Google that was taken down.

>It's another multipack
I'm nowhere near completing Ho-oh and Lugia wtf slow down

>>58146018
No it isn't.

>Recently Wonderpick is nothing but GP bots
Kek what dena doin??

>>58146030
Organic users are down the shitter, that's why they put out the survey a couple weeks ago.

>>58145818 (OP)
I will finally spend my HG stash, been waiting on rainbow beasts since the Kanto packs ended.

>>58146030
what is the purpose of a GP bot

>>58145818 (OP)
My ex predictions(except the legendary dogs)
Houndoom
Steelix

Skarmory ex makes me feel like you should be building up something tough on the bench
Aggron is kinda fun and would blast the bird, or maybe just steelix since I'm already using Jasmine
>what about sabrina
Good question!

>>58146190
What about Dusk Mane?

>>58146202
Probably better, but by the time bench dusk mane is up I figure the opponent has something else beefy built up, so the 150 from aggron would hopefully end the match, and he can also take a decent hit without worrying about Red either

>>58146224
The thing about DM is you don't need to worry about bricking nearly as much. Aggron requires a minimum of 6 cards.

>>58146111
To pick GPs duh

Only 295 pack points until I can get immersive art Lillie (I haven't opened any pack since Celetial Guardians)

>no trailer
i guess tomorrow then.

>>58145818 (OP)
>start casual match
>opponent is 15-20 levels above me; a max level Master Ball ranked competitive player
>I never even tried ranked
>game decides to give me the single shittiest, most statistically unlikely combination of cards
>no mulligan
>quit

I understand the game needs to throw the other guy a bone and let him win to ensure maximum engagement/user retention (he probably lost the previous 2-3 matches or something), but I'm not willingly participating in 15 minutes of time wasting humiliation ritual, simple as

>>58146702
>he probably lost the previous 2-3 matches or something
If we had a way to know for sure I'd bet you that he won them too. If your opponent has a higher luck stat, you auto lose. Your deck comes second and your actual skill is the least important.

>>58146702
Imagine being such a pathetic cuck that you post this on /tcgp/.

>>58146619
I got mine (not so) luckly after 975 points in.
Now I was going full retard for Lyra, but after worlds I'm saving my hourglass for Serena and/or May

Is Crobat+Nihilego any good or is Guzzlord superior?

>>58147172
Crobat is playable but it doesn’t do enough damage. Guzzlord is a really solid dark deck because it actually has synergy.

>>58147102
don't be mad bitchboy, here's a complimentary ticket for the trouble.

don't spend it all in one place

Have you guys seen Mega Victreebel? What the fuck?

>>58147338
I only have shitty trainers ;_;

>>58147338
>>58147529
KNEEL

>>58147529
Will is a cool card

>>58147338
It ain't much, but is honest work.

>Best hand all day
>turn 2 Mars

Pray we never meet in a public space

>>58145826
I bet Eusine will be one of the new trainer cards and he'll synergize with Suicune ex

>>58147647
>>58147338

What were these 3x3 frames from?

rank your predictions of the new EXes

>>58147712
a freebie for summer iirc

>>58147712
https://www.serebii.net/tcgpocket/displays.shtml

>>58146018
Should've told them on that survey

tempted to buy discount gold

>>58148064
Dont. Trust me. Ive spent money on the game and i can assure you that you're not more likely to open a better pack. I paid enough for like *6 "10" packs when ho oh lugia dropped and got 60 dud packs with 0 ex cards. I shit you not paying isn't going to help you

>>58148064
I bought the cheapest pack, I think it was the best value for money?

>>58148311
Is the best, the second one is barely better than the one you can get in the shop

>just got my 5th politoed
1 Xatu(from wonder picks) and 0 Porygon-Z.
I'm really starting to get sick of this game.

This major expansion was a complete piece of dogshit. Nevermind it was based on the worst generation since kalos.

Will Lugia or dnite be better with megas around. You can one shot those retards with some set up

i dont know if you anons caught it but the korean trailer was released and almost immediately privated not long after. I guess that was an accident, I caught the video and got some screenies though. Basically, there was suicine, milotic AR, mantyke, slugma,entei, phanpy AR, stunfisk, raikou, latias and latios

>>58149331
Seems like water ramping, going from a bing translated attack name.

C'mon MamoEX, Water or Fighting it doesn't matter just PLEASE don't be shit!

Well I'm thoroughly unimpressed by this incoming set, hopefully it has a cute waifu to chase

>>58149331
New Phanpy!

>>58149331
Posting the milo cause its a pretty card

>>58149331
https://x.com/Rochababyface1/status/1958714354888847413

Why is Korea so bad at understanding time zones? Half the leaks on mobile games are thanks to them

Water acceleration bros

Not gonna fall for this bullshit again, fuck you

>>58149374
CALLING IT NOW

BONSLY FIGHTING RAMP

TOO BAD DARKRAI WILL STILL BE A NIGGER

I still need 22 cards to complete the current set and many are Exes
I'm not gonna make it

>>58149410
Water is back.

>>58149416
can you do milotic? Google translate wont pick up the second line of text of the ability for some reason

>

>>58149427
what a worthless card

>>58149432
I'm not translating, just taking it from REDDIT

>>58149446
That's absolutely busted.

>>58149446
oh this is fucking dumb

Breaking news, Sylveon found dead

>>58149446
this was needed
there was no punish for loading up your entire bench for free

fuck you darktina
bitch

>>58149456
>130hp
why do they hate electric

>>58149403
fighting will never have ramp
they dont want Machamp to be viable

>>58149456
>>58149452
>>58149446
The game is so fast paced now that there are more ways to insta lose a match without being able to do anything. At least back then it was only a problem with misty

>>58149456
this one seems kinda shit honestly

>>58149469
doesnt even have 1 retreat cost like zapdos

>water draw support
>Milotic
Primarinabros, it's finally our time, jokemon no more

>>58149416
Another OC human for pocket? I wish they rescued the shitloads of forgotten Pokemon TCG OC humans instead of making new ones.

>>58149456
It's weaker than the regular Raikou.

>>58149446
Oh, this is gonna slot into my Manaphy deck JUST fine...

>>58149473
Just saying with Baby's gimmick being free ramp & Mantyke (gen4 baby of a gen2 mon) confirmed to be the Water one, Bonsly(gen4 baby of a gen2 mon)+Budew could very well be their respective typed rampers

Please be true, I'm so tired of Grass having 60 different hoops to jump through JUST to be different in the ramp department

>>58149503
I don't really think fighting will ever get ramp

>>58149427
>>58149438
I feel like this can be pretty strong desu.
Psychic milling deck with Slab.
One energy attackers for 40dmg immediately and with enough HP to survive many attacks and only giving up 1 prize.

>Lati@s 16t
>I wonder if it's worthwhile to pair with Tina

>>58149446
>>58149452
>>58149456
>The three have the exact same ability.
Nobody actually liked how all them had "pressure" as their default ability and they do this?

>>58149513
Just run Farfetch'd, you don't need to jump through hoops for him.

>>58149512
bonsly's still got a chance

>>58149503
Replace Tyrogue with the theoretical Bonsly.
Turn 4 MI Golem. What could possibly go wrong?

>>58149561
LucarioEX and MachampEX are way more fun
I just want to be able to use them and be viable man

>>58149566
Not a fan of LucarioEX myself, but I fucking miss MachampEX. Barely got in by the time Mythical Island came around, and it was still a fun, simple raw damage card.
I feel like Fighting in general is fucked by Energy delegations because of the many 4E shit like the Golems, Whiscash and WSS Mamoswine, just off the top of my head.
It's probably the closest to never-ever territory we have besides the non-Misty water ramp that Mantyke just broke, so there's that, but I'm not hopeful.

>>58149410
A FUCKING MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR MANAPHY

>>58149642
>A moment of silence
No, it was impossible to deal with Gyarados unless you were playing Hitmonlee

new oc instead of a johto character

>>58149864
rip Eusine, Whitney, Lance, Morty, Clair, lmao. Only 1 or two of them are actually gonna make it. DeNa mostly just wants to do ocs and npcs for gen 2

>>58149864
Stupid Dena will skip Ethan like they did with Lucas

>>58149905
he's seen some shit

>>58149410
How much damage was M-Gyarados again? It might be really meta now especially since it potentially bricks the opponent's deck. Also a potential Palkia ex comeback.

>Italian
>Korean
Who is the next precocious friend? French or Brazilian?

>>58150034
Same damage as Gyarados ex, 140

>pulled another rainbow umbreon
REEE at least give me a rainbow I don't already have

This is the sixth fucking pack in a row that I open without having anything higher than a goddamned 2-diamond card. Did they fuck with the rates?

>>58149856
it's the best of the bunch though

>>58150048
These leaks are happening with such regularity that I figure it's on purpose at this point.

accidentally declined a friend request
sorry if that was one of you

>>58150387
you monster

>>58150387
death penalty

>>58146030
Didn't you read the memo? They have a huge player retention problem, so which means they are bleeding players every day

>>58150326
That's how it is for me with all the expansions. I start out with opening 40 packs, get a few decent cards and during the subsequent weeks I get fucking nothing (I did get some shinies but I'd rather have a 3D card than those).

Now the next set is approaching and I am missing a majority of 3D and 1* cards of this set, and no doubles to trade.

>>58150326
how many packs you open tho

>>58150579
too many dog

>>58150574
Yeah, exactly. Wonderpicks have also gotten steadily more shit since the release as well.

Bros tell me the truth, is this game going to die?

>>58150680
Everything dies in the end, anon.

>>58150680
It all depends on the anniversary. I have seen so many gachas die because the anniversary was hot garbage.
But this is also pokemon so you never know. Pokemon masters keep getting content despite being TRASH

>>58150680
Pokemon is so big that it's impossible for it to die, even in hands of fucking retards like DENA.
It will only die if higher ups decide to release brand new Pokemon TCG game and tell them to shut this shit down

>>58150692
Masters also ticks all the addiction treadmill checkboxes, TCGP has nothing to do but log in twice a day to claim your free packs and check wonder picks
Game is ironically too generous and hassle-free to keep people engaged

>>58150698
Yeah but pocket has good art and masters has shit designs. I rather throw money at pocket

I feel like Ho Oh and Lugia were the worst 'pack faces' in terms of impact on meta decks so far

>>58150714
Lugia is a complete brick and Ho-oh is mid tier at best, so yes

>>58150714
>>58150732
They were made to flop on purpose, reminder that tracing fiasco

>>58150692
>masters
Cafe Remix is also a thing, and this shit is pure trash

The game should add more varied solo battle events.

>>58149905
Slugma balls.

>>58150862
This game should do a lot of things it doesn't and likely never will.

You think we are ever getting double colorless energy card?

What are chances that they will increase level cap with B1?

>>58150695
Didn't Masters die before they made it Master Sex? And there were other Pokemon mobage that lasted like a year or two at most with minimal content updates.

Red Card NIGGERS deserve the rope

>>58151441
50%, either they do it or not

https://press.pokemon.com/en/releases/Legendary-Pokemon-Raikou-Entei-and-Suicune-Coming-to-Pokemon-Trading-C
>In addition, players will discover more Pokémon from the Johto and Hoenn regions
Throwing Gen 3 a bone

>>58151441
Wtf, didn't know there was a level cap
>Look it up, 50 is the max level
>I'm just 300 exp away from getting the last level up gifts
Shit, they better increase it soon

Politoed EX confirmed

Are the Johto starters really not getting EX cards?

>>58151535
No. Fuck 'em.

>>58151534
>2 water EXs
Doubt

>>58151535
Meganium and Feraligatr will get Mega EXs and then Hisuian Typhlosion will get one in a future pack

>>58151539
Umbreon and Crobat EX

>Free Draw every single fucking turn
As if Sylveon wasn't cracked enough

>>58151559
It's at the End of each turn, so it's weak to red card

>>58151566
And it's only in active.
Entei seems too slow for what it is, and Raikou is weaker than its base form. Suicune is good against certain decks, but you have to have it down when the opponent is already set up. It also gets weaker with each kill.

>>58151559
>only in active with dogshit damage so you can give 2 points for free to the other player
Yeah very strong indeed

I saw this like a week before the new set got revealed. Could be fake but it’s shit enough for me to think it’s not the case

>>58151592
a bit early to be power creeping will

>>58151592
Anon, Will exists, this is obviously fake.

>>58151618
Based

>>58151582
>>58151592
Isn't this from that worlds thing about drawing your own card art?

Funny that this is the first time that the expansion pack is actually the legendary from the third version

>>58151522
Did they announce sneak peaks ahead of time in the past? All of the previous "bonus weeks" have been for special occasions, and not a part of the regular monthly rotation.

>>58151709
They did not for EC.

So this new set is going to be a flop huh? Beasts look mid at best (why is Raikou cucked the worst??) and Slowking is a meme card that won't even work.
Best to stick with Eevees

>>58151534
Poliwrath EX would be my jam
But it will never happen

>>58151725
>why is Raikou cucked the worst??
Electric isn't allowed to be good.
Mantyke alone makes the set worth it. The ramping babies have already been good, but water getting it makes the concept way better.

>>58151728
I don't want Poliwrath EX, I want Poliwag EX so I can stack 2 Politoed and have Poliwrath swing for 160.

Guess I'm building Kingdra. Anyone have a decklist?

What if Mantyke, Garchomp, and a single copy of Garchomp EX?

>>58151733
They should just let you include 4 copies of basics if you have 2 different mons that evolve from that basic in your deck
Eevee ex can stay, there's a billion eeveelutions anyway

>>58151755
>They should just let you include 4 copies of basics if you have 2 different mons that evolve from that basic in your deck
Especially now that we're getting to the gens with so many split evolutions. But I assume Politoed's ability is so generous speciffically because they don't want you to run 2 of them on the bench.
I'd even take something like pic related.

>>58151763
>normal, colorless
>weak to fire

>>58151746
i just play it with 2 pyukumuku and 2 sabrina
araquanid/lana and greninja/cyrus just bricked too many times for me

>>58151853
Use a fucking COMMA

The legendary dogs only draw at the end of each turn, so i genuinely dont see them being all that good you’re just gonna get red carded. Sylveon is broken because the ability happens during your turn.

>no plosion ex
Johto had the most ass expansion so far

So what's the catch? No way they'll let an actually decent card be an event promo and a full art.

>>58151967
>Only if knocked out
It's shit

>>58151725
the lake trio drawing more cards is pretty good. everyone loves drawing more cards

>>58151967
It only deals 70 damage for 2 dark energy and has 100 HP, that's the catch

>>58151967
Its dogshit thats the catch, stage 1 and you need to knock something out

>>58151967
You are all wrong like always, this is gonna be meta

>>58151913
I think Entei will be a good fit on my Ho-oh + Lugia deck

>>58152189
You need to draw more in your basic mons deck?

>>58152199
Yes. Best board state is having both Ho-oh on the field so that one can charge the other. If I brick early and am forced to lead with Lugia, or have nothing for Ho-oh to charge, it's all uphill from there. A low cost basic can help maintain momentum if I don't draw well, the draw effect should help if I'm forced to lead with Entei, and the 4-fire bonus damage makes it not so bad a target for Ho-oh

mantyke is crazy dude
waterbros we are so fucking back (coping)

>>58152255
yeah bros we can ramp uh... um... palkia?

>>58152493
I mean, being able to have 4 water energy on Palkia by your 3rd turn and dealing 150 damage + being able to Cryus anything on the bench is pretty good

>>58151618
The way this effect is written implies it starts doing +30 from the first time it attacks, so it's 40 -> 70 -> 100. But is probably supposed to come into effect from the 2nd time this pokemon attacks. It would be too powerful otherwise.
It may also be fake, because there's even more rule illiterate tards outside of Dena.

>>58149410
I'm still gonan run misty on top of this

>>58152528
40 damage would make it pretty good, but it would invalidate Farfetch'd which seems to be the upper limit for a 1 energy colorless basic.

>>58152536
Nobody runs farfetch'd anyway

>>58152532
If you use Palkia EX you should

>>58152493
gyarados EX and the jotho gyarados for the memes

Dog trio are dogshit

>>58152493
You could also get Wugtrio EX ready by your 2nd turn if you don't play first.

>>58150680
Considering the other TCG app is still alive even though this one is obviously where TCP is putting their focus on, I'd say the chances of that are relatively low. But that doesn't mean it'll always have the same level of support and care as it currently does. Pokemon Master SEX is dogshit but still gets updates and a brief 5 second video in their Pokemon Directs to remind people it still exists.

That being said, there will eventually be a time where TCP probably realizes they're bloated with failed apps and have to eventually start cutting them. But they know the optics of that are very bad so probably keeping some alive even if they're unprofitable just because they want to retain consumer confidence. When the day comes that these apps close, people will realize they just bought fucking NFTs that die as soon as the servers do. But at least with NFTs someone could revive the games with private servers of fanmade projects. So these have even less value than NFTs.

>>58149446
The 1 prizer Gyarados deck is looking good, right now you're pretty much forced to run Corsola and Pyukumuku, something that pluses and can deal damage at the same time is great for the deck

>>58151535
No. Johto starters were the only ones made explicitly to flop

>>58151967
Why would you run this over Sylvally

>Lose Turn 2 to Tyrogue and Darkrai
What's the counterplay?

>WP with with FA cyndaquil and rainbow border Laturn.
>Get the Cyndaquil
At least is something, I guess.
>Open pack today, get FA cyndaquil
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

>>58152659
Now you have two :)

>>58152528
It's 10 -> 40 and so on, the effect applies after the damage
It's still a good chard since it requires only one energy

>>58152662
Yeah and I still don't have FA Lyra or even a normal Laturn EX.

>>58152639
run more basics

>>58152674
Well yeah you're not supposed to win games with it, just be very annoying while you're setting up darktina or something

>>58151725
Here we go. Same story every expansion.

>"So this is a flop, right? The revealed cards are shit. Best stick to *current set*"
>Set comes out
>The revealed cards people shat on are actually meta defining

Can't wait for Raikou EX to destroy unexpectedly because Electric is fast enough as it is and getting to the bottom of your deck while having a billion energies in reserve will end up being overbearing and oppressive.

>>58152701
Raikou ex might be pretty decent solely because you can pair it with the funny yellow bird

>DARKRAI
>RED CARD
>DARKRAI
>RED CARD
>DARKRAI
>RED CARD
>DARKRAI
>RED CARD
>DARKRAI
>RED CARD
>DARKRAI
>RED CARD
>DARKRAI
>RED CARD

Boy I sure do love how fucking gay this game is

>>58152711
I'm betting on Magnezone making (another) comeback since its primary weankess is still assembling it. But it's damn near EX levels of power, and using rare candy for it actually does it more harm than good. So having a deck accelerator is the better option.

Raikou + Oricorio + Magnezone is the first deck I'm trying once it comes out.

>>58152701
>lead with Raikou and draw your entire deck
>ramp with Zeraora and pass energy with tool
>build Pikachu EX Mk2 on the back
>lure damaged EX on the back with Cyrus

Lati twins look worse than the old Mesprit combo
Screencap this when I'm wrong later

>>58152701
This set only has Espeon.

>>58152493
Palkia is scary as fuck

>>58152659
I have 4

Darkness ramp NOW

>>58153041
Yes, with some luck, it'll trigger Darkrai's passive twice in a single turn

>>58153041
DARKNESS RAMP
(Darkrai needs braces!)
DARKNESS RAMP
(Darkrai needs braces!)

>>58151725
>So this new set is going to be a flop huh? Espeon look mid at best
>So this new set is going to be a flop huh? Buzzwole look mid at best
>So this new set is going to be a flop huh? Eevee Grove look mid at best
>So this new set is going to be a flop huh? Arceus EX look mid at best
>So this new set is going to be a flop huh? MI Gyarados look mid at best
>So this new set is going to be a flop huh? Palkia look mid at best
>So this new set is going to be a flop huh? Giratina EX look mid at best
When will you retards actually stop jynxing shit with your bad metagame takes?

>>58153096
So we're going to pretend people never said Sylveon EX/Giratina EX/Buzzwole (solely because the game has rules it doesn't even apply) and Espeon weren't going to be broken the second they saw them?

>>58153074
ha ha

>>58153169
Thanks for proving my earlier point lmao. Granted I'm not really arguing the beasts will "break" the meta, but Suicune and Raikou are well-designed enough to actually be solid in their own right. Kind of insane to say these new EXs are mid when having a 1+ card draw advantage (even if its after the turn) is still very nice in a meta that favors mass card drawing. Entei is the only one that feels iffy but im sure you can make something work with it in particular.

>>58147338
Blaine’s harem

>>58153205
what he actually gets

>>58153169
Those posts? All me.

I don't understand the miltank attack, what stacks? It does 30 extra damage each turn, 30 turn 1 , 60 turn 2, 90 turn 3?

>>58153259
Looks like it

>>58153256
based

>>58153259
It does 10 damage the first turn. Every turn you use this attack afterwards, it gets 30+, which is what it means when it mentioned "stacks". So for example it goes: 10, 40(+30), 70(+30), etc.

>>58153275
its op as fuck

How much is water going to benefit from mantyke really? The best user i can think of is gyarados ex, who's already powercrept

>>58153287
It's 50 damage total in the first 2 turns. Even some basic shitmons can beat that. 70 damage on turn 3 is lower than most 2 energy attacks
It only works against stupidly slow decks. Might counter darktina to some extent if it's not running rocky helmet

>>58153304
it's 1 energy on a 110 hp mon normal type stage 0, it's op af

Blastoisebros we are so back

>>58153287
Its nice. Not really that broken but its definitely a better version of Cylizard. Nice HP too and very good with Ilima. Whitney and Moo Moo Milk might make this thing even better but we are yet to see if thats even a thing yet. Like >>58153304 mentioned its really only good on slow decks but I can see it being nice regardless.
>>58153299
Water in general needed something that isn't Manaphy. Mantyke is a strict upgrade for those fat bulky water types so this is going to be ran quite a fair bit in general.

>>58153304
The whole point is that you use it to shit up stall decks while you build up energy on your bench mons

>>58153340
Primarina will be the main winner. It can come in turn 3 swinging for 80 damage, 110 with Hau.

>>58153358
It would sure suck if you were to not draw that rare candy of yours though.

>>58153370
Same can be said for Blastoise.

It's Mamoswine and Wishiwashi ex time to shine

ARTICUNO

Will she finally get a chance to shine now?

>>58153384
OH SHI-

>>58151967
It's just the usual of taking a 2-3d and giving it full art as part of an event. See: Alcremie w/ Sweets Overload.

>>58153189
One fisherman is not enough, the Johto Gyarados has annoying damage tresholds. More often than not you need to sack your entire bench.
I really wish its attack was 30+ because I really like this gimmick but man unless you sack your entire bench and put yourself at risk of instantly losing you're just boneless Sylvally. And in fact so many decks are boneless Sylvally if you think about it and I hate it

Has there been any indication of them planning on raising the level cap? It hurts me every time I do a solo battle now that I hit 50 because it feels like wasting my XP reserve, so I've avoided doing most of the newer ones.

>>58152765
And Magby/Pichu, and Umbreon EX, and Crobat EX, and Ho-oh EX, and Elemental Switch, and Silver.

Lugia isn't terrible either, it's just reliant absolutely on Ho-Oh, while Ho-oh is a battery for any colorless energy hungry deck. Ho-oh is the Colorless Energy king and lets him weave into the backline.

Some of the cards may not feel as impactful but that's because this set was actually really well balanced. Even with Espeon EX being as strong as it is, it doesn't feel oppressive. Darktina feels like it's been taken down a notch just from having more potential to counterplay it now.

There's a lot of powercreep going on but I think I'm actually enjoying the PvP more as time goes on. I even feel like there's room for meme decks, like I sometimes see Porygon Z and that's pretty cool. I wanna make a Z deck but I only have 1 copy (of the old one from Palkia packs).

>>58153757
The new Porgyon-Z seems like a lot of fun, but the game has decided I'm not allowed to have it.

>>58147338
How is Mariogirl so fucking CURVY

Got a 2star and 3star Espeon EX is this shit even worth using

>>58153652
I've heard that using Rescue Scarf as the final slot makes it doable but yeah perhaps Japs need to cut down on Mistys and focus more on the Baby Gyarados spam angle. Im assuming this one is taking into considering the EX Gyarados as your consistent wincon though since theres more reason for a doubled up Misty rather 2 doubling up on Fishers. Also noticed retreating Suicune early game into Gyarados discarding it, and then fish netting it is a nice full heal combo, not sure how conventional that'll be though.

>Miltank EX deconfirmed
Sad. With that and Entei/Raikou being worse copies of Suicune, and no starter EXs, this set isn't that exciting. Hope for a Xatu or Heracross or something at least.

Fucking nailed this set

>>58153829
Will there be more after this? It seems retarded to the point of intentional self sabotage to not at least give the starters ex’s.

>>58153829
I'm pretty annoyed Raikou isn't better, since it was my goal to hunt for a rainbow Raikou (the other beasts too but Raikou is my favorite) since the start of the game. I'll still hunt it as long as the art isn't a travesty but I wish it could contribute more to battle. I would've preferred they made it 1 energy 'Discharge' for 10 to all opponents and 4 energy 'Thunder' for 100 to any 1 target. The 60 cap on a target is really lame.

The only way they can save the Suicune Immersive is to have it start with Entei in a mountain, then zoom over to Raikou running across some land, and then finally get to Suicune standing out over some ocean, and then the camera pans over to the direction that Suicune is looking at, and showing off the Ho-Oh and Lugia joint immersive arts.

>>58153947
They didn't give Empoleon/Torterra EXs either. For that reason I at least expected 1 starter EX but I guess not.

Not all starters are born equal

Someone has an extra Venusaur EX or Marowak EX for trade? What EX you want?

>>58153812
There is no 3 Star Espeon EX

>>58154777
Whatever the hell the rainbow border one is then

>raikou has 130hp and 2 retreat cost
this has to be a fucking misprint

so with water ramp mantyke, you think mega gyarados will be good? i like the concept of mill decks and want to do it

>>58154778
2 Star

>>58154780
Trading 10 HP for an attack that makes him a perfect Cyrus accomplice sounds like a worthy trade to me
Suicune is a total RNG attack that can rise or dip based on your luck and the opponent's and Entei's is steaming dogshit
Raikou is consistent and can set up great killshots

Raikou will be fine.
>busted fucking ability
>good Cyrus enabler
>Oricorio support
No reason to be worried about him. If anything Suicune will be the worst since Water is a meh type even if it seems like the strongest card on paper. Sure if Raikou had Suicune's move and hp but Lightning he'd be better but he's not and he's still Lightning. Fire's also a really shitty type support wise, though, and relies entirely on Stokezard, so maybe Suicune will be better if Stokezard can't fit Entei in too well.

>>58153109
>and Espeon
No one said Espeon was broken unironically though. Espeon was a dark horse (cat).

>>58154690
ive got a spare maro ex
you have a flareon, incineroar or alolan muk?

>>58154861
Red card/Mars/Iono into Mega Gyara attack will be strong

>>58154861
Yeah you don't even care if your Mantyke dies to everything because the moment Mega Gyara dies it's over for you whether your opponent has 0 or 2 points. That is one of the weaknesses of baby pokemon, and Megas completely disregard that.

50HP Magikarp soon

>>58155087
*110 HP Magikarp ex with Magikarp evolution ability

Flygon ex soon...

when is gen 3 coming out? I need my shiny fug

>>58152701
The thread was 100% right about Ho-Oh and Lugia and those were the main featured cards of the set. The only cards the thread was truly wrong about from last set was babies, Espeon doesn't really count because its only good because Sylveon exists.

>>58155010
I have alola muk, FC?

>>58155451
9836350829723536

>>58155451
oh right tell me once you've added + userpic or name, i might have accidentally deleted your request since i just cleared out some old requests

>>58155524
Done, name RIG.

>>58155547
got it

>>58155553
Thanks! Also i see that you want a Tapu Kek EX, do you have Sylveon EX?

>>58155587
Nah from your wishlist the only other stuff I have spares of are Exegg-A, Joltik and Mawile

>>58153757
>umbreon ex
lol
lmao

Should I get rainbow Espeon Ex or full art Lyra?
Which one is more likely to remain relevant?

I got a second non-ex shiny gyarados and still wouldn't trade even one to /tcgp/

>>58155813
Espeon will get powercrept when things hit way too hard for its heal to matter and when Sylveon falls off
Lyra will get powercrept when they release Switch, which will probably take longer to happen

what's the likelihood we'll be able to trade 2-star+ cards in the future?
got a bunch of 2-star trainer cards on my alt but dickfuck nothing on my main

>>58155892
We will know in 2 months this anniversary

Shiny gengar finally acquired this took a fucking while.

>>58155939
Please don't tell me you used pack points for this

>>58155892
>2 star trading
Not happening. Nobody would buy their premium currency if they did this.

>>58155892
We'd sooner get the ability to trade 1 star shiny pokemon before being allowed to trade 2 star ex and full arts.

Need to push through ultra 4 (around 19 wins) and keep facing Espeon decks, what should I use to win vs them easily? Was using Oricorio Silvally deck but sometimes I just lose 50/50

Also saw Claydol Silvally deck, but seems more of a meme

>>58154890
I feel like you should use raikou's draw ability to set up a good stage 3 to capitalize on the cyrus usage, but electric doesn't really have any
Maybe ampharos + will? I guess? But it's only 120
I just don't see how pika ex 2 can be consistent enough when raikou only throws out 60s on the active with espeon running around

>>58156199
Bro, how are you not in mb yet

>>58156231
Lazy : (

Can you please post your „Win this battle using a deck whose Pokemon cards are only a specific type“ decks? Especially Electric, Psychic and Colorless please, but really all of them.

>>58156333
Pawmot, Oricorio, Pachirisu EC
Mew EX, Oricorio, Lele
Silvally, Snorlax, Toucannon, Arceus, depends on the opponent

Easy way to get players back is to up the rates of normal cards dropping so people can actually play the decks they want (they will never do this so the game will die)

How am I meant to get two copies of Marill if it never fucking shows up in wp

Primarina will be meta in 7 days
You heart it here first

>>58155813
Lyra is sexier and far less likely to get powercrept

>>58156333
Floatzel and Alolan Sandslash

>>58156333
I usually make decks based on the battle itself but typically
>grass will either be tanky healslop or celebi ex + serp
>stokezard or incin ex works best for fire, cg salazzle is a decent filler, blacephalon is a godsend if you wanna sack a mon for lusa -> nukes
>water usually comprised of a bunch of pokemon that have the weakness opposite to the battle (e.g. lightning battle = metal weak waters). misty generally makes any water deck work with attrition
>lightning really wants energy gen, i typically go with sr pachi. always bring oricorio. i've been somewhat successful with koko ex due to having its own energy gen, sts luxray with rare candy is reliable for quick nuking problem targets on the bench
>psychic can usually btfo shit easy with giratina ex but alcremie can also work
>lucario/garchomp and lucario/rampardos, rarely midnight lycanroc
>honestly im still struggling to even make my own darkness brew but the same rules typically apply for water regarding weakness
>some people go solgaleo for metal but personally i find dialga ex/tinkaton ex most reliable despite the coinflips
>dragon sucks
>the rare times i do colorless only it's pidgeot ex or something
Take this with a grain of salt or two though

>>58155203
End of April.

>>58155813
>Espeon
>Gay, furry, is into doing 80 damage and healing 30
>Lyra
>Cute, sexy, is into cosplay, exhibitionism and being molested
It's pretty obvious, bro.

>>58149515
Definitely inspired by their V cards which were incredibly popular in the physical game

>>58155203
>A hole's a hole

Okay

Bottom right corner bros we can't stop winning

>>58156424
I think it has a chance, if only for how much damage it can do immediately after evolving. If you start first, you're doing 80 on your second turn. If you start second, you're doing 100. +30 if you have Hau in hand, too.

>>58156333
doing that yourself is the only fun part of this game bro

>>58156654
I don't like the V border one bit

>>58156654
What's the difference between V and ex?

>>58156856
Nothing. They didn't have EX cards during gen 8.

>>58156891
That wasn't the question. Doesn't matter if they didn't have them in gen 8. Across all generations, what is the difference between V and Ex?

>>58156045
I sure did use 1350 pack points for my shiny gengar it took a zillion years why wouldnt I

I dont battle i just collect the cards i like

>>58156983
V Pokémon (gen 8) and also upper case EX Pokémon (gen 5 & 6) are exclusively basic even if they're evolved forms of certain Pokémon, while you have to evolve into lower case ex Pokémon (gens 3 & 9) and also GX Pokémon (gen 7). Level X Pokémon (gen 4) and BREAK Pokémon (gen 6) are placed over top of the respective Pokémon as if they were an evolution but they retain all the attacks and abilities of the original card and only give up a single prize too.

>>58156983
The only difference is that a V is always a basic even if is a fully evolved pokemon because you can evolve them into a Vmax.

>>58156045
>>58156985
The hunt also netted me 3 of these spastic retards

>>58156983
I answered your question in the first word of my post.

you have friends to trade cards right anon?

sick of these dogshit ass packs

>pulled 2nd FA Scizor
Anyone tried to make this work

>>58157176
Eh, too clunky
If Scizor had more HP, hit harder or even just used 1 steel 1 colorless this would work better

>>58157074
Shouldn't the chances of this also be extremely low?

I'm finally starting to pull some decent full art trainer cards. I've got 2 silver, jasmine, Guzma, now Will.

>>58157235
Why doesnt scizor work when your active gets knocked out?

>>58157317
I havent pulled a single full art trainer since the week eevee grove came out. I got Penny and i fucking hate that card

>>58157329
The trick to Penny is using her turn 1 for a pretty decent chance at a free extra Professors Research since everyone is gonna be running 2 every deck. But now Silver is probably a better turn 1 trainer card to have and people run more trainer cards generally which diluted the pool.

I spent 300 pack points crafting 2 of that new Gyrados card, damage potential looks absolutely insane. Brainstorming my deck list for him and there's some fun potentially very powerful potential here.

Does anybody have any Manaphy cards I could trade for? I'll pay handsomely for them.

>>58157337
I like FA Penny in my Silvally PvE deck

>>58157320
Because the exact wording means it must switch in the current turn
They just copied the same effect from Golisopod without changing anything despite nobody using it since it's so flawed

CLEARLY, with Suicune making fishing Gyarados stronger and Mantyke existing, alongside other tiny water buffs we might not know about. DEFINITELY we Gyarados chads can reclaim the throne, r-right?

>>58157258
well yes but all I've gotten for like 2 weeks now is trash commons, I don't need 13 fucking darumakas just give me ONE three diamond, fuck

>>58157469
You'll get a 3 diamond, but it will be the fourth copy of something you already have.

>>58157408
Yeah I just need a couple Manaphy and 1 more Articuno then this Gyrados deck will just need some fine tuning.

Possible changes: 2x Will, Fisher vs Fishing Net, wish there was enough room for an X-Speed or Cape/Leftovers/Lum Berry.

Been running essentially this deck list and it's super fun. At first I was gonna run garbage like Pyukumuku or Dondongo/Tatsugiri to use for discard fodder. Then I realized there's options like Articuno/Cramorant which are basic water types with only 1 retreat cost plus they have more HP, stronger abilities, and excellent synergy with coinflips so you can actually try to play them when you don't open into your Gyrados right away.

>>58157472
At least that would be worth a trade to someone, nobody is gonna want any of my 11 snubbull or 10 slowpokes. I wouldn't hate getting overloaded with commons so much if you could do something with them like grind them into shinedust or pack points.

>>58157359
I got plenty
2385978087349819, arceus icon
If you have any spare Ilma and/or Guzma, or if you have Sigilyph, or if you don't have any of those then just whatever you want i don't care that much

The Gyrados deck has the potential to be insanely fun.

Imagine your opponent summons Magicarp turn 1 does 10 damage coin flips heads for invincibility so you have no counter play then hits you turn 2 for 140 damage and kills your Ho-Oh/Lugia before you can even react at all. Gyrados bros we are so fucking back.

>>58157480
Japs have been brewing Fisher Gyarados with Suicune. Very enthusiastic towards it, especially with the Suicune Discard into Fishing net combo that they mentioned but I'm not particularly sure how good it'll end up being. Really nice change of pace though. However not sure how I feel about double Misty. Perhaps change 1 into Fisher but Im assuming its there to give your EX Gyarados a bit more energy accel since its your main source of consistent damage. Posted it earlier in the thread so I can't wait to see what tricks people come up with to optimize it.

>>58146619
>the only cards I want are 2* Lillie, Lana & Mallow
>tfw not a fan of Immersive Lillie
>already got 5 of them

>now I just got my first 2* Trainer from a Solgaleo pack
>it's Sophocles

>have a playset of shiny magicarp
>have a playset of shiny gyarados
Is it my time?

Hopefully this means Araquanid actually is usuable for once.

>>58156856
the difference is people who play physical can't lose V cards

>>58157510
I'm just hearing about this new set for the first time, but I don't think I'll be running Suicune anyway. Doesn't seem very good at all, it actually has reverse synergy with Gyrados when you think about it.

>10th Porygon-Z WP miss
If I mess up one more then I break my personal record from December when I was chasing after Aero ex

>>58157564
I'm sorry to have to tell you this friend but Araquanid will NEVER be usable. Holy shit, that card is ass!

>>58157573
>it actually has reverse synergy with Gyrados when you think about it
You'll be playing so many basics and cards to retrieve discarded basics that Suicune ex will always have plenty of bench to work with

>>58157573
In a vaccum I can see what you mean. But I'm mostly thinking about it from mostly a Gyarados angle and not particularly a Suicune wincon. Definitely way too early to see if its good persay but definitely a creative way into playing it without forcing yourself to run Wishiwashi/Dondozo

Sup brewskis, I took a break from these threads for a while but now I'm back to hang with the Brewers, what's the latest brews, brewsisters?

>>58157510
Does anyone have a list for this

>>58157570
Is that a virginity joke?
Now I'm curious about the sex life statistics of Pokemon TCG players, MTG players, poker players etc

>>58157595
>>58153189

>>58157595
I posted it above yesterday >>58153189
Here's some footnotes that comes with it:
"Mantyke (Pichu placeholder) will be effective against slow start decks"
"Baby Gyarados Might be a big hit depending on how well Suicune performs in tournaments"
"Rescue Scarf has potential to be a great add-on to this deck"
"Umbreon EX might rise as a counter depending on the needed syngery it might get from Dark types this expansion."

>>58157624 (me)
Oh yeah forgot to mention that "Raikou might catch on quickly if this deck takes off for obvious reasons, but insanely fun deck notherless."

>>58157582
>>58157584
Here is some further explanation on why I am not feeling Suicune into this deck. It's beyond the obvious reason of both needing a full bench.

1. In order to get value from the card draw you need to put suicune into your active spot as quickly as possible. But, since it's an EX you won't want Suicune to be your first pokemon knocked out, then you just lose another basic and it's over.

2. Which makes you especially vulnerable to Sabrina/Cyrus/Repel (which everyone is using) especially with a bench full of whatever you could find to stack your Crystal Wind

Because 3: Ideally you want to make them knock out 2 basic pokemon then an ex (or potentially just 2 ex pokemon back to back)

And 4. 140hp for an ex is very underwhelming, especially with that electric type type weakness that's will get you creamed by any electric deck which are very common and lower ranks

5. Crystal Wind isn't even very strong at all, that's 2 mana for something like ~80 damage and that's a pretty liberal estimate

So basically if you get what I'm saying it kinda does the exact opposite of what the Gyrados deck needs. What you want is to get both your Gyrados out as fast as possible and try to sweep them with that, but then make them knock out both gyrados then you play Palkia/Gyrados Ex or whatever it would be last also ideally giving you enough time to stack their 4 mana before summoning them.

Hopefully that makes enough sense that you at least know what I mean, but don't mistake my tone I am perfectly willing to accept being proven wrong that's just what I'm thinking first impression wise.

Yeah you won't be able to run Suicune ex like even at all basically now that Im really thinking about that matchup.

You'll lose to Zeraora literally every single game no matter what and that card is crazy common. That alone is going to fuck you so hard that you won't be able to play him.

>>58157664
Personally this is moreso a different structure compared to traditional Gyarados though. Which focuses more on Mantyke/Suicune's utility to make the most out of discard Gyarados whilst providing a synergy for Suicune early game since you're going to be using a lot of basics that while you're getting Gyarados ready.
>1. In order to get value from the card draw you need to put suicune into your active spot as quickly as possible. But, since it's an EX you won't want Suicune to be your first pokemon knocked out, then you just lose another basic and it's over.
My only counterpoint to this is what I mentioned in regards to how Discarding Suicune when bringing in Babydos when you are ready to pivot out of it provides you with a full heal given that you fishingnet/Fisher next turn. Which might be really good but I think Electric decks can easily just brute force Suicune way too much. Which is the major roadblock it faces alongside Raikou potentially being a staple among Electric decks that use Stage 2s as the wincon.
>5. Crystal Wind isn't even very strong at all, that's 2 mana for something like ~80 damage and that's a pretty liberal estimate.
I think at most this heavily punishes bench decks, which is majority of the metagame right now including the top 3 usage wise so I think it'll be having generous damage ranges. And if they want to play the long game you can simply punish this with disruption mindgames. You do bring a good point regarding our own bench but the gameplan you're going for provides you have enough basics to keep alive thanks to the options available. Definitely appreciate you being open at least while giving counterpoints. Though I think the downsides won't be as bad on this style of game compared to the more traditional Gyarados. Only time will tell but we can agree that Electrics are going to easily shut down most water decks anyways if it becomes too good with results.

When you open Suicune ex into Zeraora you will lose 100% of the time guaranteed. Even assuming you play Misty flip double heads and get 3 cards on your bench they will still attack first for 70 damage so even if you get perfect luck you'll only be able to guarantee 80 damage while they have 90hp and then kill you next then with another 70 damage . God that's brutal.

>>58157721
Yeah unfortunately Oricorio and Zeraora completely dogwalks Suicune for their own little reasons. Just way too strong for you to really react if you start out Suicune first. Hell Idet Magikarp is safe either from a crazy Zeraora even with relatively decent odds.

>>58157715
Excellent points my friend, I actually hadn't even considered using the discard as an effective (though slightly clunky) heal so thanks, you're gonna end up winning me a few games by pointing out that strategy. I also see what you mean about how they're not necessarily abilities that counter each other depending on the order you use them. Likewise seems you won't need me to tell you how some of your solutions here do create additional caveats and prerequisites like needing to be able to switch your pokemon and pulling the correct card from discard all to salvage a strategy that I feel fundamentally won't work mostly due to just the underpowered stats of Suicune which you can't really fix regardless of how well you play.

Which actually brings us exactly to what I was going to say about there being a couple of different branches for how you want to play the deck strategically and theres just no way to be sure either way yet if one is going to be 'objectively' better to the point where that will determine what deck list is 'best'

>>58157591
I've been running a Lugia deck these past few days. The hardest part is that Lugia can only really attack once, so I have to keep my HoOhs alive and switching to last long enough to give Lugia the turn for the winning attack. So I loaded my deck up with literally every healing card I can use.
Surprisingly, it works decently well. I'm at 100% winrate against darktina. Also I have never gotten to attack with Lugia, opponent always concedes

>>58157790
I suppose you raise good points, yeah I guess the only way we can find out is on release. For now though I'll focus more on the other two beasts, Raikou being on my radar. Hidden gem that I won't be surprised on the spotlight due to it enabling some of the stage 2 electrics even if the draw effect is inferior to Sylveon. The value it's bringing when its on active assuming early on electric is going to be really good.

>>58157732
See and that's exactly where my mind went down the Coinflips rabbit hole because I was like well fuck Articuno and Cramorant have the same retreat cost as shit like Pyukumuku with more HP and then I can run 2x Will and potentially save my ass from 2 different ways this deck can go south. Protecting your Magikarp from getting creamed early when you do open with him and also giving you routes back into the game when you have to open with your non Magikarp pokemon.

>>58157814
Yeah idk. Zeraora existing puts a dent on things but then again we really dont know what else will be introduced. Then we remember Raikou who is also going to enable Cyrus while also getting its energy up quickly so its just overall a losing game.

>>58157597
it is, was kinda disappointed at the lack of reaction tbqh

>>58157809
Yeah man, I'm really glad we could have a respectful and productive discussion rather than just calling each other retarded. Because there are many internal and external factors which could influence whatever ends up being the meta strategy at any given time.

For what it's worth, I'll try to share my thought process on ideal deck building for really any TCG. First while brainstorming I determine which specific cards or combos I'm going to be utilizing. For example this one its Gyrados and his potential for dealing 150 damage turn 2. So by identifying that I first look to build around an "ideal" circumstances and look for obvious ways to improve consistency. Then look for even more ways to improve that best case scenario even further without reducing consistency, then LASTLY I'll look at the potential issues and only seek to do the bare minimum required to patch up those, because often times I've found its best to not chase losses and over correct. Some games you're GONNA draw your deck in the wrong order, regardless of how consistent you try to make things. Best thing to do is have a primary strategy and a backup strategy then maybe 1 or 2 ways to reset back if you stumble (X speed, Lyra, ect) but not too much, and always prioritizing consistency and potency of that main strategy.

>>58157806
Sounds interesting anon, can you post your brew?

Is darktina still the oppressive meta?

>>58157925
Oh for sure man. I think it'll be more productive to admit the various holes it has rather than ad hominen my way through the discussion because even the more casual player can realize its inherent flaws by the sheer existence of various deck mechanics in play. I guess my thought process is moreso how we can make Gyarados work without over-relying on the traditional way since thats not really a thing thanks to how aggressive the meta is right now. with the advent on the discard heavy playstyle thats on tha table right now thanks to Dena actually introducing this new Gyarados. Relying more on how you can flip around with your bench with revives and Gyarados's interactiveness can help Suicune while it in turn can provide draw consistency and utility to set up your big damage. As it stands it definitely has holes I'll have to work with as things are shown off but thanks for your input since that is something that'll benefit the deck building in the long run.

Give me the spiciest new brews please

It's a good day

>>58157964
Apologies for the shit pic, I can't be arsed to make a proper list right now

Darktina is *a* meta deck, not necessarily THE meta deck right now. Arguably the dominant meta deck is Psy Reeves which hardcounters this if running regular Espeon. That energy scaling damage is literally made to fuck Ho-oh

>>58157994
>Reeves
Eevees

WP events are the fucking worst

>>58151746
give it back Jamal

>>58157967
using the discards for free heals is super interesting and I'm glad you brought that to my attention. Makes me think about a control water deck with maybe Mamoswine or something but it'll probably never be particularly relevant in an aggro deck with this version of gyrados.

Another easier way to get free heals like that is with is Irida cause she returns your card returns directly to your hand. Only works on Colorless types though, but Ive been using her in a very fun Guzzlord/Celesteela control deck at ultra this season.

>>58158064
I've been trying to make Mamoswine work for a long while but its just hard to do so, same thing with Araquanid. At the very least though Suicune and by extension the other dogs can now offer a form of hand drawing that doesn't overly rely on Sylveon to function and I think its going to open things up in the long term. Been dicking around with Raikou and (insert the stage 2) and I think Magnezone will be a very big winner. Wanted to go for Amphy but I don't know how I feel about forcibly running 2 wills to get the most out of it, maybe might take away 1 Will or just perhaps run Magnezone Raikou all together.

>>58158052
>I hate free shit

>>58158086
I'd personally love to see Golem be playable, and that's probably closer to happening at least because fighting has better support cards than water.

New thread[ ! ]
>>58158116
>>58158116

>>58158115
Bonsly having fighting ramp is all we need to make Golem really nice. Combo with Hitmontop or any other utility fighter as you'd like, and itll make a huge difference, hell Donphan, Garchomp EX and every other fighting shitter that sits there will be a lot more tolerable to play. Dena can easily fix fighting by introducing a form of ramp. I'm genuinely excited to see it happen.

>>58157564
Wouldn't araquanid and lana pair well with pokeflute?