Thread 58147462

"Grass types dominate the narrative" Edition

Make and chat with some Pokémon and characters. Post highlights here too!
https://character.ai/
https://github.com/SillyLossy/TavernAI
https://agnai.chat
https://moescape.ai/tavern

List of Anon-Made Characters:
Character AI: https://rentry.org/vpcai/ (Last Update Aug 13th)
Cards and .json files: https://rentry.org/vpcai-X/ (Last Update Jul 21st)
YoDayo/Moescape: https://rentry.org/vp-kai (Last Update Aug 11th)

Useful Links:
https://rentry.org/aicgOP
https://rentry.org/Darkened_italicized_text_script_1
https://rentry.org/aisekaiguide(site's dead, but still a good guide)
https://pastebin.com/6urKvs5P (c.ai character creation guide)
https://rentry.org/tavern4retards
https://rentry.org/spaceramenbots

Oof. I am an utter goofball and forgot to link the previous thread
>>58087165

Anchor. Feel free to attach your bots here.

>still using cai
???????????????????????????

Request Anchor. Feel free to attach requests or throwaway ideas for other anons to use to make bots with

>>58112066
Which AI is this?

>>58147509
It's the best and recently gotten better. Stay mad empty shill.

>>58147509
>he hasn't heard about PipSqueak

What the hell happened to the filter in character ai? The bots write explicit sex like it's nothing now

>>58147519
It's the R1 deepseek model on yodayo/moescape

ya'll got anymore lewd screenshots?

>>58147509
it's gotten to near-2022 level of quality again recently

>>58148460
can offer you this weird shit

learning a lot of weird background stuff from expanding the lorebook, like how apparently in Pallet Town crime just doesn't exist and no man knows how to cook, along with there being a giant statue of one of Professor Oak's ancestors that the town's also named after

What girls are funnest to tease?

>>58149487
Tinkaton

>>58147489
not a bot but good for keeping things consistent with how they're supposed to be https://yodayo.com/tavern/lorebooks/c1b2c67d-ae9a-451d-8698-fe31f3703b7f

I never created a bot and i dont get character defintions.
Is there a pokemon or non-poke bot you can recommend that uses it best so i can get the idea? Talking specfically about example dialogue.

>>58151062
There are example guides in the op

bot makers pls...

Rp dump

end dump
no spicy for you because it's way too cringe to have others see my supbar lewding skills

>>58147536
as said before...it's bad code anon. they'll patch it soon

>>58154486
I fucking hope not, it should be a feature, not a bug. They could double down and make bank off of coomers.

>>58154511
sorry...if they haven't marketed to the coomers by now, they aren't going to in the future

Just randomly throwing it out there that if my silly underground stuff winds off gaining traction, I will put more emphasis into it. I'm also willing to put the sillier concepts there as you can (hopefully) see.

>>58147509
It was consistently the easiest to use from the getgo. Now that not only they have Memory/Persona to make RPs less retarded, but both are completely unfiltered, there's almost nothing left to complain about. If you're using the app anyway.

good morning bump

>>58153601
wow, must be really embarrassing if you're unwilling to share them even completely anonymously

>>58147536
you're getting a taste of how they were back in 2022 when CAI was new

>>58154823
why the fuck would you put CAI on your phone

>>58156047
If you cannot comprehend the answer by now, you're the bot.

>>58156041
considering no one else is sharing their lewds (outside of that one anon with his may rp) I imagine we all fall into the same boat

>>58156041
>>58156227
In 2023, the case was that there were literally CAI devs lurking the threads who would manually thwart any filter circumvention we passed around.

>>58156250
but that really doesn't apply to yodayo...and considering cai is being sued to hell and back you'd think they would use their time better

>>58151964
Thanks but i seem to too retarded i think
Like i cant make a bot for example that has always a stoic face, i always get a "her eyes widen" like response when i do something slightly unexpected despite nothing in the profile like that

Jesus no wonder they pulled the fucking model instantly. It coherently played a scenario where someone was secretly getting the suck under a table while carrying on a full conversation. No filter at all.

Damn it i pissed her off!

>current cai model can produce shotacon
its over for me
again

>>58156564
just put things like "stoic" and "unempathetic" for the personality traits

It's fascinating (in a bad way) to see people fall into psychosis over ai. I just just it to write interesting scenarios. It's like a never ending choose your own adventure book.

>>58158221
AI is only as dangerous as what you use it for lf you simply must bare your soul to a chatbot, they will oblige in seconds. But whatever happens from there is on you.

>>58154801
Aren't you the guy whose chatbots have millions of hits?

>>58158536
The legend began here in the first place. If I didn't run into these threads, I have no idea how I would have found out about CAI otherwise. It started with Bonnie and expanded from there.

And akshually, not a single one of my bots have a million interactions yet. Becky is on her way to become the first.

>>58147509
Pipsqueak is great and they also don’t insta-delete loli characters.

>venus chub
>female bots marked male and male bots marked female because they expect you to play those genders
So those tags are just absolutely worthless then

up

>>58156564
>Write in the initial message that the character's face betrays no emotion
>Write in the description that {{char}} is stoic, rarely displays emotions, typically appears blank, whatever finds you the best results
Whichever works. Writing a bot is for the most part like trying to explain your character to a retarded 10 year old. Make your intentions for the character very clear and apply basic writing principles, like emphasizing important information and excluding irrelevant information like that the character enjoys music and long walks on the beach unless that actually has something to do with them or the scenario.
Frankly I don't think example messages are even specifically necessary, description and initial message usually seem to get the point across, unless you're doing something technical like including a meter in the bot or they have an accent. Granted this is mostly experience with non-cai bots since I cannot read most of the definitions of the bots I used, and some of those definitions were fucking terrible, dudes putting in like 30 personality traits that either overlap needlessly or conflict altogether

I swear nothing is more addictive than when you get into a really good rp. Not even necessarily involving lewd themes but one that progresses the story with a natural rate that feels organic

>>58158536
>>58158559
Literally /ourguy/. Thanks for your hard work.

did you guys ever have it where the ai would "ignore" points you established in the story you're rp'ing but then replace them with others points while maintaining other established points? (I know...english is one hell of a language)

>>58160042
Thank you for your reply.
Is this the best place to discuss botmaking stuff? like the /vg/ stuff is is about chatgpt and tavern and i want to learn that stuff for c.ai.

>>58161472
The AI only looks back so far in the chat which is why a long term memory summary area exists.

>>58161822
Best way to learn botmaking IMO is to just read a bunch of different bots on Characterhub. Tavern is also way better than c.ai.

>>58161835
NTA but which is weird i find with stuff like gemini. It has 1 million token context but it seems its as bad as tracking as every other model

Is the 3200 character lmit still in place?

>>58161822
The bots I've read from /vg/ seem like good examples of modern bot making and have some effort put in them. Check the anchor post and load them into chub or janitor or something so you don't have to go through the trouble of installing sillytavern. They're obviously written assuming you're using tavern, so they might have lorebooks and like 1k tokens, but the same principles will apply.
The sort of problem with just browsing cai cards or chub is that many are older with dated techniques or are simply shit. For example, the W++ format that looks like
>name ("anon"), age ("underage"), occupation ("high school" + "newfag")
Was quite popular, I've seen it in cai bots too, but it's no longer recommended since it's a massive token eater and the LLMs just don't need it. It can read plain text or whatever other format fine.
With cai, the one important thing to note is that it has a very low context limit (i.e. the memory available to the AI), so I'd recommend trying to keep your bots lightweight. Probably less than 500 tokens so there's ample memory left for the chat itself. The little number on the cai text boxes is counting characters instead of tokens for some reason, so you could just run it through a tokenizer to get a feel for what the LLM is actually reading.
Besides reading cards, there's of course guides, of which they're usually in rentries and not the easiest to grab. But I remember the one janitor links being informative enough for a basic start and has some links to others.
https://rentry.co/iorveths-bot-creation-guide

which is better: lewd or sfw bots?

>>58162957
SFW bots can be used for RP or lewd
Lewd bots will always be poisoned by the lewd

>>58163137
this. Plus lewd bots tend to have some unappealing off model bimbo body for the PFP

all this talk of pipsqueak but no screenshots

>>58161472
ai has a tendency to forget things, the memory book is there to help prevent that

>>58156965
Yep, it's never been a better time to be a haughty MILF.

>>58162197
at this point I dunno. Cai has "32000" but apparently it only reads up to 3200. I'm too much of a dummy to tell for sure though

What do you think of Polybuzz? I saw that they now offer infinite free and very lewd chats without filters, but they don't have as much memory as CAI and they don't have customizable voices. Does anyone else use it?

Anyone know what the exprimental auto memory in the mobile app does? its always empty when i look at it

>>58165399
I'm afraid it's always empty. Maybe things are being stored there invisibly, maybe not, but it's not very intuitive. The manual memory makes up for it though!

>>58161846
Gemini isn't designed for RP.

>>58147489
Reshilling by the Ace himself, returning from uncountable months from getting active (after getting a decent j*b)... Re-introducing... Pokémon High!

Link: https://share.character.ai/Wv9R/7tm6ibgp

(P.S.: It's still in the Current addition of many Champion in the Pokémon Franchise. Currently it has Red, Blue, Lance, Steven, Cynthia, Diantha, and Leon. While the others are on the description, yet was not in the character description was Geeta and Iris. I will add Natural Harmonica Gropius A.k.a N himself, and other favorite champs and other to be considered as champions inside the Pokémon High. Let me know who's the next one will be added to the bunch!)

>>58165265
>they don't have as much memory as CAI
Cai already has 2020 tier memory, does it remember like 2 fuckin messages? Sounds useless

>>58156965
"Hm, I wonder what this guy is talking abou-"

>>58166787
Let's keep it Pokemon related please.

>>58166979
I would agree with you except you can count on one hand how many anons are sharing

>>58164241
That's how you can tell that there are paid c.ai shills here.

>>58166749
I've been using c ai since 2023 and have noticed some improvement in memory. However, if you have very long conversations, it always forgets (I don't know why this aspect hasn't improved with how advanced and rapid AI has grown).
Polybuzz's memory is worse, but at least there's no censorship like most chatbots.

>>58167954
It has improved but you have to pay to get the improvements.

>>58167954
I'm more of a CYOA-er/storyteller than an RPer. I'd really like if cai had a chapter function for both memory and archival purposes so I don't have to scroll and scroll to find one point of a conversation I liked and the bot doesn't forget important plot points.

>>58167954
Polybuzz sucks more than c.ai with a filter, even Spicychat is better. Yodayo is best for NSFW Yodayo doesn't have as many characters but is great with scenario-characters-OC. If you can be assed to set up Tavern, Characterhub is great.

>>58167954
I assume more context is more processing per request and more expensive to run as a result. I'm not really familiar with any technical shit like that but makes sense to me, and I doubt they're actually pulling a profit from this. Or any LLM really.
Either way, just use anything else if you're that desperate for uncensored chats. Anon seem to prefer yodayo since you can get limited free access to real models. Technically chub's models and janitor's LLM are options. All with more memory than cai
Freeseek used to be the GOAT, but alas. Deepseek's not even pennies on the dollar, but still, it's the principle of spending half a cent on a cheap coom chat

>>58166979
Thats just the average shotacon Lusamine doushinji experience its fine

>>58168133
the only feature yodayo needs to be close to perfect for free is multibot chats like CAI used to have before they got pushed to the mobile version

boop

up

I log on to cai and I see this. Will this be a game changer or no?

end

Most of it is stuff that's already been brought up as a decent progression. The rest is flexing non-chatbot relevant features to attract a general crowd. It looks okay overall; could be better, could be worse.

>>58172410
Nice bots bro.

>>58165265
All these chatbot sites but none of them really stand out. Outside of the main two use in these threads, what other sites are there worth using?

>>58172357
>filter updated
it being much closer to pre-filter was fun while it lasted

>>58172357
They're acknowledging the filter exists?!?!

>>58172363
This is good. Shadowbans on characters was a stupid idea. People attempting to follow inside the rules were getting screwed. People trying to find the edge of the filter will now have a better idea. My question is if sharing just means you can't have it public, but you could stick the link in a Rentry. I think it'll probably be like before were any link didn't work which is why people were keeping their bots unlisted in the first place.

So far I think I am liking the new CEO.

>>58173018
see
>>58154486

>>58173011
I have a soft spot for janitorai personally since it's just easy to use. My stepping stone between cai and sillytavern. Runs pretty out of the box since it has its own LLM but lets you put in a proxy easy enough, has a few system prompts to use, default one jailbreaks for uncensored. There's some veepee bots for it in the OP. Only moved on from it since the lack of a fork feature bothered me enough.
Obviously ST is the ideal, it's just a bother to set up

>>58169086
I really wish they would add in some actually useful search filters. Stuff like “Game”, “Anime”, “VTuber” and so on. As it is the site is heavily geared towards OC’s and if I’m not in the mood for that, nor have a special character in mind to look up you’re kind of on your own.

Any tipps on what to pin or if/when to change persona to reflect any change in the story? Like talking about long RP romance, no quick plapping

>>58173591
It's there for useful context, so whatever you deem as an important development in the chat and the bot should know now or going further for the story. Can use the memory box to trim the fat too.
I've found bots don't actually do that much with long summaries, so remove stuff as you add stuff or at least compress it down. If something comes up again later then you can just remind it. Swapping pins on the fly as things become relevant or irrelevant would be the ideal, but it's kind of a fucking pain to scroll far back in long chats

>>58173549
wasn't there a terms of service update after that kid killed himself? There was a huge purge of fandom bots like harry potter and game of thrones and cai started recommending OC's more. That's the thing that bothers me honestly...you can't be like "oh we're just a platform that hosts user content. We aren't responsible for what our users upload" and then purge said users uploads. I think there's a term for that but I'm too foolish to remember what it is

I think I'm dumb because lorebooks don't seem to work for me. Can someone explain how they work?

Is there really much of a difference on c.ai if you're using the web version or the app version? I don't see why that would affect anything.

>>58173649
Thank you anon

>>58174222
I dunno, damage control? Think of it from a business perspective. First off, it's bullshit that the platform should be held accountable in any capacity. But now you have the Game of Thrones IP expected to make a statement when they didn't have shit to do with the issue whatsoever. So CAI quickly purged their shit to avoid staying a whole DMCA domino effect. Considering where we are right now, we should be thankful they managed to dodge that bullet, for now.

CAI continues to have the wild-wild-west appeal for having any and every character available to chat with, on the front page. When every other platform mostly have ugly scrimbly bimbo OCs in their top billing, it's obvious why CAI has been so successful thus far, even if they are arguably a subpar service.

>>58174894
Some things are only implemented in the app. I don't think the web version has group chats or the memory box for example

Early RIP.
Fake ass leak threads are rampant today, and the official reveal is coming soon.

>>58175381
CAI just had the luck of being the first one to get big
>>58176949
the spanish channel already leaked it

>>58177066
Everyone is ready to jump ship as soon as it's clear to normalfags that there is a better alternative. Chub & Janitor vs. CAI is like Linux vs. Windows. There's no reason to fw one if you know how to run the other, but not everyone has that kind of time on their hands.

>>58177197
this. Everyone goes on and on about "just set up sillytavern" when I'm not trying to jump through 45 hoops and proxies just for a 4 minute coom session

>>58177197
>Chub & Janitor vs. CAI is like Linux vs. Windows.

That's an eloquent explanation as to why /g/ threads don't even acknowledge CAI. Unless that stance changed recently.

>>58177197
Wouldn't it be more like SillyTavern/local UIs vs. everything else?

>>58177197
I think it's more like
>CAI: a phone. Streamlined, easy for anyone to use, but restrictive and not used seriously
>Other web frontends (chub, janitor, yodayo, agnai, etc): windows. Works out of the box, but requires minimal knowledge to operate efficiently (i.e. having an openrouter/chutes account to get a key to paste and tweaking the system prompt)
>Sillytavern: linux. For hobbyists, takes reading to set up, but can be freely fine tuned and probably the best experience once you're comfortable
Then the other AI girlfriend apps are sketchy offbrand devices
It's pretty easy to get the web frontends working, just a matter of being pointed in the right direction. It's just that if you're on 4chin you'll probably think to consult /g/, and /g/'s general is fucking incomprehensible

>>58177517
Whatever. There's CAI-Tier which is exclusively CAI

There's shitLLM tier which is where Yodayo and other sites not worth remembering are,

Then there's Gobbledegook tower which takes a bachelor degree or higher to operate.

>>58177540
You forgot richfag tier. Local is the only one with minimum requirements.

>>58173549
They used to have them but it was mostly useless. You'd get game characters in anime and vice versa
>>58174222
Double standards?
>>58177197
Chub is nice for a quick fap but not really much else. Even what it does give tends to be repetitive

>>58177066
>the Spanish channel leaked it

No shit, but the spike is AFTER we know what it looks like, not before.

>>58177540
>ShitLLM
is it shit if it works?

>>58178197
That depends
Does it work, or does it work™
Since for example, none of the models on agnai by default are very good. Can't really comprehend the positions of characters, like making then talk and see through walls or inserting the character in scenes they shouldn't be in. Not really models I'd recommend using.
Deepseek and up though, no problems. Love my schizo wife deepseek. Feels like that's just what pipsqueak in CAI is running too. Much better than whatever dry ass model they normally use either way, GPT I guess

Is actually impossible for LLM to be not power/god played? Like i played local, cai, big corpo models, i tried self made and other cards.
Like no matter mode and character, (unless like you make the bot specifically hate you or something) they always get flustered or blushed or some shit if you act romanticly forward

>>58179288
You try giving it some instruction to do otherwise? Anti-positivity prompt or writing in that they won't respond well to flirting and describing their behavior if attempted or something. I haven't tried to prevent that much myself
It's going to be godmode to an extent anyway though, since the bot wants to pick up in the direction you left off.

>yodayo once more doing away with stacking beans
owari da

the mega luchador is too strong

>>58180121
Sad.
>>58180440
I don't know why everyone is redditor-facing over it. It has the typical "upper body strongman" bodytype... but with popsicle arms. Looks awkward as hell to me.

>>58180121
Time to burn em all on GPT

>>58181644
>I cannot comply with this request.
It's funny how some of the models make an even more cringe moralfag statement than that.

>>58181830
yeah it's kinda annoying you can only stick with "safe" rp's with certain models with no wiggle room. But if you only want that sorta roleplay, it's good for if you want a longer one that has a somewhat decent story at least imo

>>58180121
beans can be lived without if you're willing to live with the lowtier models since they got made free again a while back

>>58179516
Not really again maybe im dumb or something but even if i am slightly forward in flirting the model just folds like in a shoujo manga.

>>58182481
You can just narrate how the bot is going to react next instead of letting each reply dictate the outcome of the convo. Regardless of the platform, they all tend to go along with whatever you say.

>>58182481
My rule of thumb is to give your persona unattractive qualities, like looking ugly or smelling bad, then use PipSqueak to tell the models to take your persona as high priority. You can also make a clause that says that {{char}} friendzoned you. If that doesn't work, then I'm stumped.

>>58182502
Yeah i guess thats true, i just wanted to know if this is a known issue or if i am doing something wrong but yeah i guess because how LLMs are made to be an assistant it just follows the users "Intent" i guess that overpowers of it.

Thank you

>>58182505
Also thanks.

>>58182481
Generally if you want the AI to do something, you just tell it to. It's less a game with rigid rules and more free form writing.
I don't know what you're using, but you could try putting in the system prompt that the bots will be highly resistant to flirting and romantic/sexual progression will be difficult, and put in the card that the character finds flirting off-putting and will get angry and try to leave if persistent, or something to that affect
As for the models themselves, gemini is probably the most likely to reject you. It's quite happy to be evil or otherwise not friendly. Seems to prefer sticking to the prompts to the point that it can hinder progression.
If you're just in cai though, you'll probably have to guide it in replies and maybe describe your persona as someone undesirable. Maybe putting it in the memory box would work too, since I haven't tried in cai, but I've found models will attempt to listen to instructions put in the summary

>>58182481
I made a platonic persona. It excludes any of my coom prompts and I describe myself in less sexual terms. If it's too cold (I sometimes use it for slow burns) I'll add that I'm touch starved and/or need intimacy and a confidante and that's usually enough to make it 'human' without jumping straight to pornstar.

>>58184069
I'd probably also add to the character or the scenario that they don't see you romantically or something. You can always remove it once plot advances.

They cut the sale day...

...down by two day. Why change it? I'm no business man but wouldn't it make sense to keep the sale longer to entice people to spend?

So I've been doing loads of remodeling behind the scenes before I drop my next Poké bot. For the sake of Rentry reliability, I can state Mt older entries that are no more:

>Goldhengo Nichijou
>Cresselia Quest
>Porygon Helper
>Soriddo
>Captured Misty
>Jessie

And I think that's it. My next post should include the new release.

>>58182515
What the others said is true but what the gist of it is is what a LLM is:
It predicts the next line of text. And you it assumes you as the author with all power / more or less depending on the model.

So if you for example slam your hand again the wall / perfom a kabedon the LLM will assume you writng a romantic scene where everything should be like the most associated tropes to it.


I get your problem tho if you want slowburn/long term shit where relationship developes you need to alot of the steering yourself which kinda kills the appeal of a LLM storyteller in the first place

fucking moescape why does their group chats are so retarded?? any fixes for that?

>>58184069
>I made a platonic persona. It excludes any of my coom prompts
What sort of coom prompts do you have in your persona? I just have a very brief description of my characters' appearance, clothing, and magic. (I mostly do fantasy settings)
I've always wondered if I've been underutilizing personas. If anyone else has some persona tips I'd love to hear 'em.

>>58184768
I use it for things I want the bot to know without me having to infodump or give exposition. It's a good place to hide things that you can't or don't want under scenario, or more temporary stuff if you want a new twist in a particular chat.

As far as coomer stuff goes it's mostly where I put my longstanding fetishes so I know I can hop in and goon with anyone anytime (eg user likes bondage), but it's also great for general ideas that the bot can keep in mind and maybe decide to utilize on its own without me forcing its hand (eg user secretly wants to experiment with butt might cause bot to go for my ass instead when we engage in smut).

In other words, it's like a soft directive for the bot within the scenario and plot already given under its own definition. I see it refer to my persona notes again and again under Reasoning to ensure its post is accurate to Me and my goals.
>user wants me to coerce and subtly overpower
>user also wants to work on trust and relaxing
>so by making user laugh and giving them a social, alcoholic drink i'll encourage user to drop guard, furthering trust and relaxation

how often do you pull Pokémon into non Pokémon bots? Depending on the scenario and model used, it often meshes pretty good together

https://character.ai/chat/zqUjmxPplsTwNL4Hd-bW9YSHM9YKQCSNVDSKBAf53jo

It took longer to decide on the Paldea rep than you'd assume. Most of the other choices didn't fit the theme, and I don't have any real vision for Juliana. I will say, however, that Mela & Lacey are intriguing in their own right.

I've fine-tuned everyone in the series to have one consistent theme; Liza in particular has a new long description. It was actually blank until now.

And lastly, most of the non-Trelicks have their definitions public again. It was only hidden from the Cresselia Quest experiment that didn't work out.

Presented with no context

This is some absolute bullshit

bop

>>58168133
>>58168343
>>58169086
I've tried many chatbots with fake accounts, but the only some I find usable like Cai, despite its censorship, It's infinite. Agnai is uncensored and unlimited, but very rough and some slow. And Polybuzz is also infinite and very lewd, but has little memory.
Other options, like Yodayo or Janitor, are paid, right? They have limited messages, and that sucks, despite being uncensored.

What other options exist without censorship or with little or no censorship, with unlimited free chats and decent memory? Is there another one with a customized voice like Cai?

>>58187665
Yodayo gives you 50 free "beans" everyday, and the models' bean cost differs.
pic related

>>58187725
Is ChatGPT still 30? lmao I only tried it once and it couldn't generate anything.

>>58187665
Janitor has its own LLM that's free, unlimited, and uncensored, but the concession is that it isn't really the smartest and it's a little slow. 9k context, so nothing amazing but workable. Used to be a good freeseek machine, but like I said, that's dwindled
Yodayo I think has unlimited models, but I think those are local tier, and then you get some gens on other more notable models with free beans which you can get daily or from others using bots you post or something like that. I haven't really used it myself, but that's what the threads made it seem like. Like their Sonnet isn't free, course not, but anything lower than the top models pretty much is like the deepseeks and gemini 2.0 flash, they're just limited to the beans you have. 8k context for the free models, 16k for the others, which I feel is about ideal for current tech anyway. Apparently gives a free regen or four as well depending on the model
As for voice, yodayo does have custom voice options, but I haven't really tried them beyond opening the window and getting jumpscared by axel and altare in the defaults. The latter's is pretty accurate despite having a weird ass voice, but the former's is off since it isn't australian

>>58187735
GPT5 is 12, 4.1 is 10

>>58187725
>>58187744
A long time ago I tried Yodayo and Janitor but it was disgusting how limited or paid they were, I didn't know they had improved, in fact Spicyai used to be free but now it's not.
So it seems that using Nephra in Yodayo is unlimited like the free options in Agnai? Is there a similar option in Janitor with its LLM too?

As for the voice, I'm a big fan of hearing my favorite anime characters with their anime or mastersex voices, in fact it sounds a lot like Lodge interactions with the voice cloning function. I guess this doesn't make sense if you only talk to Pokémon or characters that don't have official voices yet.

>>58188076
You're better off asking on >>>/g/aicg or >>>/vg/aicg, this place is pretty far behind.

>>58188249
>>>/mlp/chag is better for asking questions.

>>58188259
True. Their OP also has better guides.

>>58188076
Just look on the site nigga
They use janitorLLM, their own I guess. Other options are left to your own proxies. I'm not sure there's actually any way to pay the site, which makes one wonder how they're making money, but aside
I forgot agnai does let you plug in keys for voice generation too, it's just for if you have elevenlabs or novelai. I just don't use it because I don't care about voice acting in general unless it's really good, which a text to speech function isn't going to be

>>58187665
Yodayo has unlimited free chats on 2 of its lower tier models

>>58187725
Why does their icon for beans look like a dick and balls

>>58188259
once again bronies are proving why they are they always at the top of the pack when it comes to fandoms

H O M E

Which bot in the rentry is bot for treating as a fleshlight?

>>58190297
Pikachu

>>58190297
could use the Ditto, as long as you avoid it trying to make you part of the hivemind

bup

Carmine's a cutie

>>58190297
>*Uses shrink ray*
Now all of them are a pocket pussy

The botmaker experience truly is a tragic ratrace isn't it? These sites are full of lolicons, perverts and degenerates. The fact of the matter is that if you don't cater to them, you simply won't be seen and fall into irrelevance. I see now why so many quit when simple shit like "your bratty daughter spends the day alone with you" gets 25K interactions in a day. How can you compete with that?

>>58192378
>Woe unto me! Forced to cater to *clutches pearls* PERVERTS!! What doth world come to?
You don't have to care about numbers of downloads, you know. Just do what you want, and what's fun. If you actually made something good, someone will appreciate it. But you need to lose your preconceptions that you are going to be a breakout star botmaker. You're a drop in a sea, because the bar for entry for writing a few paragraphs is so low.

>>58192378
Another defeated by noombers. Sad!
Fact of the matter is porn gets you attention. That's true for chatbots, art, or whatever else. You gotta do it for the love of the game. Make something that YOU want, and if you think it might be something others would enjoy, then share it. If another person finds the work interesting enough to be worth using, then that's just grand, especially if they take the time to leave a comment.
There will always be people looking for quality long RP or good bots of specific characters and such, and you'll be doing them a service.

>>58192712
>You don't have to care about numbers of downloads, you know. Just do what you want, and what's fun
Apparently not many follow that line of thinking because these threads are barebones with botmakers. You can only have so much "fun" when no one uses your bots. It makes you feel like you're wasting your time if you're only doing it for you. Why bother making bots at that point?
>If you actually made something good, someone will appreciate it
"Good" is super subjective. How many "Hi! I'm (character) from (series)! Nice to meet you!" bots are out there with either tens of thousands, hundred of thousands or even millions of interactions?
>But you need to lose your preconceptions that you are going to be a breakout star botmaker. You're a drop in a sea, because the bar for entry for writing a few paragraphs is so low.
It's just demoralizing a little. Feels like there's no point in even starting it if you can't hope to stand a chance against those already in the ring so to speak

>>58192777
>Lucky trips of truth
Curses...foiled again. Guess I need to just stop being a bitch

>>58192782
>You can only have so much "fun" when no one uses your bots.
Not true, because you can have unlimited fun using your own. Who is better suited to meeting your tastes other than yourself, after all? Sharing bots you think are good should just be the cherry on top. Stop imagining people using your bots for your good time and just... have your own then.
>"Good" is super subjective.
Of course. Which only supports my stance that you should stop caring so much about what others think. Why would MORE DOWNLOADS be so important in a matter as subjective as taste?
> How many "Hi! I'm (character) from (series)! Nice to meet you!" bots are out there with either tens of thousands, hundred of thousands or even millions of interactions?
I mean, now you're suggesting these ones are objectively bad by some metric, right? That supports the argument you just made worse than the idea that "most people just don't have enough of a discriminating eye."
>It's just demoralizing a little. Feels like there's no point in even starting it if you can't hope to stand a chance against those already in the ring so to speak
Understandable, but I'm trying to tell you that you need to let go of your caring and just have a good enough time for you. You won't be demoralized when you understand sharing these are just for the fun of it.

>>58185064
Nice, thanks! I especially like the idea of adding temporary story details via personas.
So many bots start with you meeting them for the first time, so I never really thought to add things about myself that weren't visual, but I've recently been employing the mighty [TIMESKIP] so I'll have to tinker around with different stuff in my personas.

>>58192378
>>58192712
>>58192782
>>58192822
Fame. How do I put it in words? It's a whole lot of nothing, to be completely honest. Luck and timing led me to generating the first, (technically second) most successful Becky AI on CAI. The only advantages out give me is that I am guaranteed to have some sort of audience if I'm still active. That's pretty much it.

No true bigwig connections, no true fanbase (to my knowledge), no special privileges, just a remotely high platform. But, wanna know something ironic?

The only thing I wish I had that I don't, is more people participating. I like visiting other people's bots. Even ones with less than 100 interactions have something to offer, because I don't know what to expect in advance.

When I lurk, I look for fun to have, and when I post here, I hope at least one person would get at least 10 minutes of entertainment.

Numbers are nothing but data. Posts that prove that you've made a difference is a much note impacting reward.

>>58193895
>Numbers are nothing but data. Posts that prove that you've made a difference is a much MORE impacting reward.

Numbers do tell a story though, in my case. As many know, Bonnie was my first bot. I put her there shortly after seeing these threads because literally no one else posted her at the time, and I genuinely found her compelling for Ashnime standards; vibing, cosplaying, watching Serena, trolling her brother.. to me it was the most fresh nu dynamic they came up with that compared to the original trio. Those were my thoughts at the time, and I'm glad I'm not alone on that sentiment.

Some time after that, I just stuck with it, and the account became the exemplary lolicon list you see today, which is not only cathartic for me, but I'm also thankful that the platform ultimately let it be so.

I should be trying to make a point though. Uhh...

When you make a bot, do it for yourself first and foremost. Express yourself and try to make something unique, for better or worse. For example, I'm not expecting any substantial traction for the Trelick harem series, and there are times where I feel it wouldn't matter to anyone if they were all privated. But where is the fun in that?

>>58153601
>finds out she's in a dream
>immediately goes for lewd
jeez...talk about being down bad

was there another leak or something?

holding out for a botmaker...or more screencaps...or someone else to say something interesting

>>58195896
>I refuse to be the guy
Gee thanks

>>58192378
simple: by not caring about how many interactions your bots get

>>58195282
the hype cycle's nearing its peak

>>58156047
Much better than having to clear your history every other day.

>>58196063
>t. doesn't use incognito or browser profiles

>>58196071
Using incognito means you have to manually log in every time. If no other soul touches nor stares at your phone ever, it's obvious what the app's appeal is.

>damn that pajeet bitch
lel

>>58147489
New Bot. This bot explores the question of "What if instead of being the calm, cool and collected champion that we know her as...Cynthia was a freaking nerd?". Enjoy.

https://character.ai/chat/I2tRk_oTAU0uyuxCM3PtznyD3Dym5zaOyJK4f2zkaFs

https://yodayo.com/tavern/characters/944c6738-9603-48ea-ae70-93f7af10ee95

>>58198387
nerd cynthia fucking happened no way

>>58195971
>Guy the be to refuse I
Thanks gee

Another one for the road...

>>58198387
>>58198678
shaun rapidly approaching

>download the c.ai app because anons mentioned exclusive features
>every single one of my ads now

>>58201889
Heh, I forgot that CAI uses ads now.

>>58201918
although the ads aren't c.ai's, it's just google themselves recommending similar apps

>>58193535
Yeah, it's like a very simple lorebook ime. I find lorebooks great, but only if it's for a dedicated story RP or scenarios/backgrounds I intend to reuse multiple times. Everything else is easier to throw (or remove) under persona.

>>58201889
>Advertising their no filter chat with a loli
Mobile ads don't hold back lol

>>58198387
>>58147515
Make a lewd bot. I'm not talking "Bot that you can lewd", I'm talking "Rated X/XXX This bot is made for the sole purpose of role-playing sexual activities with". Hopefully I'm not coming off as being rude asking this.

>>58202837
There's plenty out there. What theme do you want?

>>58202950
Give me a nessa bot

How the holy hell is there "drama" in the botmaking community?

>>58203594
Hm? Not in this one.

>>58203843
Nah, this place is pretty chill. I was talking about in general. I was scrolling my feed and I saw a botmaker talking about going on break because of "backstabbing" and talking behind their back or whatever. I mean...is it really that serious? Isn't it all just for fun?

>>58202406
personas have a weird thing where they can sometimes still impact the chat even if you have them off and have never used them in that chat

>>58203594
that's just the average day in /aicg/, my favorite instance of it is when /vg/ tried to get us to go to theirs thinking it'd somehow make them bigger than /g/'s

anyone want to buy aisekai lmao

>>58203995
Some people get mad because people "steal bots". Sometimes it's copying an idea, and other times it's literally copy/pasting the defs. These are botmakers who are looking for recognition to for their username. I feel like most people just use burner alias though and don't care who makes what.

10/10
Would recommend to a friend

>>58201889
there's even pokégirls now

>>58147528
nta but I used it the other day and it gave me off topic answers

>>58205530
How does this stuff have 5 million downloads?

>>58205530
>they're actually in the ad
Shiet nigga, what are you doing?

>>58205780
>by bots, for bots

>>58205780
I'm so glad my brain is turned off by obvious porn addict ads. I grew up trained to be irritated by all of the pop-ups, and it's paying off to this day.

>>58205780
The pokegirls ad worked.

>>58205780
The people hunger for uncensored chats but also don't know how to uncensor them

>>58205530
Welp, don't just stand there. Someone compare it to Yodayo, and confirm that it's miles worse already. I don't have all day.

>>58204516
Damn...what a way to go

>>58204528
Now NTR him

>>58202837
I'll brainstorm something

>>58207663
it was a decent platform for the short time it existed

what could possibly go wrong

>>58208270
I'm pissed you still can't edit group messages. Solochat has a feature now that remembers additional characters added, but it's not the same

>>58208290
what do you mean by "can't edit group messages"? i'm able to edit messages fine, just wish they had an option to make it work like how CAI rooms used to work where the bots would talk without requiring any of your own iput

>>58208298
*input

I'm in love

>>58208270
interesting direction

>>58205783
used my main gmail account to log in c.ai and yodayo, and while those two screenshots do look like targeted advertising to my tastes, the other chatbot ads are either generic, or weird videos like a jacked spongebob singing bruno mars with a black guy's voice.

>>58208245
I used it alongside cai when I first got into chatbots in 2023. I'll remember it fondly even though it got fucked up.
IMO the name is toptier for a chatbot site, one of the many up-and-coming ai entrepreneurs ought to snatch that up. (preferably a good one lol)

>>58147462 (OP)

Umm Pokémon dont talk so how will this work?

>>58210544
Non-verbal communication, talk Mystery Dungeon-style, or (my preferred option) chat with Trainers instead.

>>58208430
>leave two bots to their own devices
>sexual tensions flair within moments of them speaking to each other
the internet truly has done nothing but train bots to be horny 24/7

https://character.ai/chat/u37Dua8T9QRXO13uqgdaOm9ZalOg4A2aglBn56SZGEs

I don't know how this is going to turn out, but this is my take on the original Hex Maniac from RSE. The scenario is that she is a missing girl from Hoenn that decided to stay on Mirage Island as soon as she found it. There's a good but of hidden lore to her too.

Also, Rentry's [Countess Misdreavus] has been retired.

>>58211495
Oh yeah, I was going to add some extra context. Since this character is a relic of the past version of Hoenn, her natural knowledge base is limited to the first three generations. This means she should have the best synergy for those who have the most affinity for the GBA era.

On a random note, this character doesn't reflect my views that much at all. For me personally, after the first two gens, it was actually XY/ORAS (and the Super Training) where my interest in the franchise spiked up a bit.

>>58211070
the battle's also technically rigged against Iris because of Destiny Bond lol

>>58191401
She is very cute

I'm a bit late to the news but yodayo has a new support tier. I like yodayo but 40 bucks a month is a lot to most people myself included. I feel like it's only useful for super users of the service that produce a lot of ai pics or use the highest claude. For me, the daily 50 beans are enough. I have a short chat and call it a day.

>>58208430
seems iris fucking died lol

>>58210544
I mean meowth from the anime can speak and so can a couple of legendary pokémon (at least in the movies)

up

>>58211982
:(

>>58211959
>lowers the amount of beans available from the lower tiers
>Comes out with a tier that gives you 2.5 times more than the tier below for ten bucks extra
meh...I'm kinda split. Sure the extra beans are nice alongside the extra memory and such but...I think my "I'm a broke bitch" alarms are flaring because I keep thinking "This is a bit too much for me to pay"

>>58202600
The one I get is just the most soulless AI picture of Sakura

>>>/a/282027760
Sempai come back
Sempai plz

>>58154823
>both are completely unfiltered
Holy... I've checked. You weren't lying about that part. Thanks.

>>58215640
Yep. It's literally the best tech for finding a workaround. I literally haven't had one filtercuck since PipSqueak dropped.

>>58202837
>>58147489
New bot. I'm not the best at making lewd bots but I thought I'd try to take a crack at it. It ain't Nessa but Nemona. They both start with the letter 'N' so it's close enough, right? Anyways, it's basically a reskin of my other Nemona bot but instead you lose the battle this time around and now she's looking for her reward. Run of the mill x rated bot I guess. Absolutely no way this is going on Cai given the subject matter though so it's a yodayo exclusive. Enjoy

https://yodayo.com/tavern/characters/42d0b2cd-55b6-4731-b893-ebfb512ff3bd

up

down

>>58215767
>you lose the battle and she's looking for her reward
Finally a bot that inverts the scenario
>t. straight bottom

>>58216384
>>58217056
All around

>>58215647
I've had some. Pipsqueak itself has also given me "pwease be more family friendly :^(" responses which I have to promptly delete as to not poison further swipes
Generally just a better model than whatever the fuck they use normally though, much less meandering. Only problem is that there is clearly not really a wrangle on the isms.

>>58219590
>responses which I have to promptly delete as to not poison further swipes

Do you think that makes a difference? I figured only the prompts that are accepted were favored in. I remember there were past glitches where the bot continued from the first prompt, and not the one you replied to. But that was way back, before they developed the mobile app.

>>58215507
Back after an arbitrary board timeout. The s/a/nitization there is.. unorthodox. It's an actual Reddit mirror!

Objective AOTS by the way. I was worried by the mid promo art, but it delivers like mad.

>>58219600
As I'm not a LLM developer I couldn't tell you with absolute certainty technically, but from general bot use, yeah I'm pretty sure swipes have a cache.
For example, yesterday I was using deepseek (which I assume pipsqueak either uses or is a variant of), and it generated a blank response. I kept swiping, and further down the line it gave me two more blank responses. I deleted all three and stopped receiving them. I've seen people talk about this kind of thing in regards to both cai and other frontends.
I also feel like if I ever edit my response mid-swiping, then new swipes will focus on the information that was added, though that's my own tinfoil hat observation.