Thread 58156094

>One episode, it was revealed he had a Dragonite all this time
>The very next episode, the Dragonite mega evolves
They're not even trying, just giving everyone OP mons.

>>58156094 (OP)
The anime is a 25 minute ad to shill new mons/forms/gimmicks, wake up

>>58156094 (OP)
>Who the fuck writes this shit?
Gamefreak
it's blatant how roy and ult are here only to be ZA's marketing tools by gamefreak while liko and her team are here by genuine writing passion

Would be nice if the OP Pokemon was a Spheal.

>>58156094 (OP)
Go back to /padt/

>>58156096
>The anime is a 25 minute ad to shill new mons/forms/gimmicks, wake up
At least before there was some progression or story behind strongmons

>>58156173
>Dragonite never came out before because it got told by the previous trainer to only come out if Uruto wants to fight for someone else's sake
There you go, some story for the strongmon.

>>58156097
This.
Teraleak had some correspondence and it seemed like the GF reps were taking an increasing amount of control with the current show.
They clearly wanted to move away from the typical format Ash had up until Gen 7 and shift into something where they could essentially just shill any region or Mon whenever it's necessary.
It allows them to freely advertise whatever gimmick or Pokemon they need at a moments notice. New TCG set out? Let's sneakily throw some of the relevant Mon into some episodes. New game on the horizon? Let's sneak some new Mon and gimmicks and the like in there.
Hell it's why Liko had Terapagos from the beginning, so they could whip it out whenever they wanted to start advertising The Indigo Disk in full force.
You're probably gonna see a lot more Kalos/PLZA relevant Mon in the coming months, too.

It's a shame the modern anime (by which I mean the anime in general, not just Liko's) has such bad battle writing or this stuff would genuinely be interesting as an outside viewer.

>>58156094 (OP)
isn't dragonite back to being a shitmon now that tera is gone?

>>58156094 (OP)
The anime is based for giving me a pokeryona fetish.

>>58156094 (OP)
>Who the fuck writes this shit?
Me
AMA

>>58156245
Based

>>58156285
can you bring back corphish

>>58156237
They've talked about this in interviews, though not in regards to the anime specifically: The massive success of Pokemon Go made them shift focus from treating the most recent video game as the most important centerpiece of the franchise, with everything else focused on shilling stuff from that, to treating Pokemon as this big blob of a franchise and the newest video games as a tool for adding new stuff to that blob.
We've gone from practically every Pokemon fan either keeping up with the video games or being interested enough in them that it's worth advertising the games to them to most fans not caring about the games at all and just enjoying the franchise as this general collection of creatures, and that means it's better to just promote everything on a roughly equal level instead of hyperfocusing on what's available in Scarlet/Violet right now.

This is probably most easily seen with the TCG.

>>58156237
>They clearly wanted to move away from the typical format Ash had up until Gen 7 and shift into something where they could essentially just shill any region or Mon whenever it's necessary.
Wouldn't it make more sense to keep Ash and have him promote new Pokémon instead of relying on random new characters the audience doesn't connect with? Koraidon and Miraidon are far more marketable and popular than the unappealing turtle they're forcing on viewers. Despite the promotion, Terapagos isn't nearly as popular as Misty's Togepi. Ceruledge also failed to match Greninja or Lucario's popularity despite being in the show from the start.

At this point, Ash mega-evolving his Dragonite, which he caught, would have been more acceptable. The anime seems less focused on promoting new Pokémon and more on pushing new, unlikable anime-original characters.

>>58157200
Shut up Fagmon, the adults are speaking. Back to the employment Center with you.

>>58157219
Please Moot, a sycophant like you have no right to call anybody childish.

>>58157200
Shouldn't you be happy the show is now featuring the bickering lovebirds you've been demanding for so long? >>58157236

>>58156094 (OP)
A lot of people always complained about ash always having unevolved pokemon or shitmons. They're just doing what we wanted after gen 6+. Sucks that it's happening faster but they gotta advertise for the modern gen mons being rushed out these days even ones coming from legends or GO games.

>>58157255
Heh, yeah.
Uruto is
>brash
>kinda dim
>obsessed with battling
>reasonably competent at battling
>anything but a prince charming, awkwardly stutters around girls
>bickers with his love interest but still cares a lot about him
He's literally what he's been asking for as a protagonist

>>58156237
Gamefreak has hardly any involvement in terms of the writing in the Anime. The Pokemon company dictates what gets promoted in the Anime. All Gamefreak does is give concept art of nee pokemon ahead of time

>>58157270
Horizons actually has a lot of cool stuff but the problem is that the main characters are so unrelatable and anti charismatic that whatever happens falls flat. If it were Brock/Serena/Max/May etc. in the OP pic fighting with a Mega Dragonite, you'd see the entire board and Youtube comment section going absolutely CRAZY about the event but since it's just some lame OC with a weird design, I don't feel any excitement and I think neither do the current OLM writers.

With the ashnime, you could tell that OLM was really happy themselves to get all autistic about the cooler stuff in the ashnime like the battles, humor or Pokegirl fanservice.

With Horizons, you can feel it's all corporate and nobody on the writing team really cares about what goes on in the show, it's all just sorta a mass produced product without the SOVL

The real question is why they did this with the character with a goddamn Sableye.

>>58156237
You probably didn't notice this as a kid, especially since the anime in Japan has far more cross-media synergy than it did in the west, but during AG, they just immediately pivot to FRLG content right around the time they do the Norman rematch. The opening changes to feature Gen I Pokémon like the fully evolved Kanto starters, there's immediately an episode with Professor Oak and the first stage Kanto starters, May gets a Bulbasaur, Squirtle and Eevee, Ash's Charizard comes back, they decide to travel through Kanto after the Hoenn League, the Deoxys movie features its Attack and Defense Formes, etc.

Emerald content starts happening around the later badges. Juan appears instead of Wallace, there's an episode about Deoxys Speed Forme, Rayquaza is a prominent Pokémon in the Deoxys movie, Mew being featured in the next movie, Scott is introduced and the story changes to doing the Battle Frontier, etc. And a lot of this runs concurrently to the FRLG stuff (which started before it). And then, of course, there's all the DP promotional stuff like Munchlax appearing in the Deoxys movie, May getting a Munchlax, Brock getting a Bonsly, James getting a Mime Jr., the Aipom following Ash around because it's getting an evolution in DP, the Lucario movie that also featured Weavile, the Manaphy movie that also had Buizel, Mantyke, and Chatot, etc

>>58157289
This is probably the dumbest fuck take I've seen. The series is a lengthy ongoing narrative-driven story focusing on characters and villains created BY the writers and the majority of it consists of them doing original writer-created stuff the writers want them to do. When they went to Paldea to do the gyms, which was clearly a mandate from GF or TPC or whoever, they speedran the entire thing in 6 months and then went back to the story the writers wanted to tell instead of shilling the game stuff the marketers wanted them to shill. It's shit like the OP PIC with the newest Mega Shillmon that's the writers being all corporate and shilling the shit they're ordered to shill, and all the OTHER STUFF that's them caring about what's going on in the show and telling the original story they want to tell.

>>58157296
Also this. Little Billy Dubfag watching this in English in March 2026 isn't going to understand why Uruto was given a Dragonite and not literally anything else because Z-A has been out for half a year and he wasn't paying enough attention to know which Megas had been revealed at which dates and how they corresponded to which episodes aired in Japan then.

>>58157266
That only applied to Ash who isn't even in the show. When Iris caught Dragonite, she became the most hated lead girl of the entire anime until Ash caught his own Dragonite 6 or 7 years later.

>>58157546
Iris was hated since the beginning, newfag-kun

>>58157546
>Hating a character because she got a Pokemon while the other didn't
That makes Ashfags sound extremely petty and bitter, goddamn you didn't even think before posting it, didn't you?

>>58157376
>The series is a lengthy ongoing narrative-driven story focusing on characters
That are so boring and unrelatable that they literally get OP pokemon handed to them instead of earning them just like Uruto got a Dragonite handed to him by a third party.

>and villains
With plans so stupid that anime had to erase every officer Jenny so the villain's plan would not fall apart. Even TRio didn't needed this despite being joke villain.

The writing of this series so lazy that it feels like Writers does not even cares.

>>58157546
>This post
Are you serious? That is disgusting and over the top to hold onto something like this. Even if it isn't true, this way of thinking is beyond ridiculous.

>>58157557
Wrong. Iris hate spark with Dragonite. Until then she was just another girl that bickers with Ash like Misty and Dawn. This is why hate toward her decrease when Ash caught his own Dragonite.

>He's seriously thinking that way
I thought the Dawnfags and Serenafags were joking about this MF above me but fuck, this Famon sperg is delusional as shit.

>>58157562
Iris was hated for getting something that she did not deserve or had the merit to control it. Nobody likes a characters that receive favoritism.

>>58157590
She wasn't even able to control it in the beginning which was part of her character arc. Just stop talking if you don't want to confirm the accusations of you Ashfags having an toxic entitlement complex

>>58157572
Uruto is literally the Ash you've always wanted >>58157270

>>58157612
You're wasting your time on a hopeless schizo, anon.

>>58156094 (OP)
This shota is so ugly, must be the anime alias of Ryuki. Fucking hideous.

>>58157572
Ruby from Special had a deus ex machina Celebi he apparebtly had with him the entire time and uses it to undo everything bad that happened.
Dawn is given a Togekiss in the anime
Iris gets a Dragonite in the anime
Ash gets a Dragonite in the anime
Ash gets a super special exclusive Greninja form

The anime is a commercial. There are forces that want it to be a narrative-driven story that has character progression and an endpoint, and this is driven by the games having an inherent sense of permanent progression and structure built into them (levels, evolution, Pokémon caught, generally sequential badges, a Pokémon League as the final challenge, story beats that reach a narrative climax, etc.)
There are forces that want it to be a never-ending series of episodic events that reset to the status quo at the end of every episode, and this is driven by it being a commercial product that tries to remain evergreen. Much of Pokémon's anime is episodic from an early point. You'll get episodes with zero narrative progression about an old surfing Pikachu, which while being a meta reference to Surfing Pikachu in the TCG and games, does not actually matter in the grand scheme of things because these characters and locations will never appear again. Pokémon as an anime is both. That's not to say that an episodic status quo series can't be good, or that a narratively-focused series can't be mediocre. But what is true is that it's still a commercial for kids at the end of the day.

>>58156308
She evolved into Crawdaunt in the last season and episodes of Ashnime.
Needs a new trainer with a new Corphish.

>>58157557
Not by me, faggot.
Iris seemed like best girl from day one, and rightfully she turned out to be exactly that.

>>58157651
>Ruby from Special had a deus ex machina Celebi he apparebtly had with him the entire time and uses it to undo everything bad that happened.
No wonder PokeSpe will never get animated or won any prize or has impressive sales.
>Dawn is given a Togekiss in the anime
And She receive criticism for that. Not to mentioned she was developed as a character while none of Horizons characters has a concrete goal.
>Iris gets a Dragonite in the anime
Becomes the most hated lead girl
>Ash gets a Dragonite in the anime
23 years later after his peak character development on DP series and he still had to win a league to be worthy enough to catch and KEEP Dragonite. He wasn't even allowed to keep a Goodra on XY series for five episode.
>Ash gets a super special exclusive Greninja form
That lost to Mega Charizard X that Ash could have gotten and later released because Alain screwed up but the producer were too spineless to make him face consequences so Ash had to pay for his sins.

>There are forces that want it to be a narrative-driven story
Nope, those forces only wants to glorify their own Anime-original characters. They does not care about Narrative driven story because Horizons feel even more aimless than Ashnime.. Unappealing characters, generic entitled villain and a plot that makes no sense at all. Even Ash's badge quest was more Narrative driven than whatever Horizons supposed to be.

>>58157746
>Iris gets something?
>I HATE HER SO EVERYONE ELSE HATES HER TOO
Not only stupid but also extremely biased above everything was too. Do what that other anon told you and get a job, it's not a surprise you ended up on the streets.

>>58156094 (OP)
The undeserved shiny lucario wasn't enough to clue you in?

>>58157757
Iris was legit disliked though, just not for the petty reasons he disliked her.

>>58157546
Iris was gym leader in BW1 and champion in BW2, so obviously she is a naturally skilled trainer.. Yes, anime Iris and game Iris are the same.

>>58157776
>undeserved shiny lucario
There's an upcoming 3-part special that will explain the Lucario.
Yeah right, there's a good chance it'll be more disappointing than The Arceus Chronicles.

Did they bring Ash back.

>>58157839
Unfortunately no we're still stuck with the volt tacklers.

>>58156097
Expect fucking Victreebel to show up randomly in like 5 eps, owned by a who who has a random mega stone for it with no explanation

>>58157793
Oh you think people hated Iris because she called Ash a "Kid"?
Misty and Dawn were harsher but you don't see them receive as much as hate as Iris.
>>58157816
However in the anime she was an overconfident newbie who couldn't even connect with her Exadrill until Cilan's help or evolve Axew until JN series.

>>58157889
>Still believing that
I guess I got to thank you for showing your hands about being extremely anal about Iris getting an Pokemon that only (You) think is entitled to someone else. Get a job

>>58157296
No I noticed but see, the story was decent enough for the shilling. Ash and co getting FRLG content mons was par for the course since they had just finished the league and weren't ready yet for gen 4. Also it wasn't gimmick shit, Ash getting Charizard back and May getting Bulbasaur wasn't a blatant "hey look at our new games!", they were pokemon that you could actually believe the protags would naturally get over time. In no way did we get Ash getting Aipom and then immediately Ambipom the next episode, or May getting a baby Manaphy to haul around an entire season. Even if I were to watch this shit a year later, I can easily tell it was to shill this horseshit by having this nobody ass character suddenly have a psuedo legendary that can also magically mega evolve the very next ep. That would be like the original series having Brock catch Deoxys in the DP era and proceeds to curb stomp Ash or anyone else with its multiple forms.

>>58157889
>Oh you think people hated Iris because she called Ash a "Kid"?
>Misty and Dawn were harsher but you don't see them receive as much as hate as Iris.
Misty was better at bantering with Ash and had better insults, Ash was way less experienced in Kanto, and even still he was able to get back at her on several occasions. Iris just calls him a kid over and over and looks like a massive hypocrite when Ash is consistently more competent than she is.

>>58157908
> Still believe Iris was hated for calling Ash a "kid".
Lots of people criticize Ash for behaving like a Kid, not just Iris. Not to mention nobody thought Dragonite to be a pokemon that can be caught by a main character, there are people that used to considered it too legendary.
>>58157923
The same logic applies to Dawn, Shuana and Angie.

>>58157601
Even her own fucking Pokemon hardly liked her you fucking retard. Emolga got annoyed by her constantly calling it cute, Excadrill thought she was unworthy, and Dragonite thought she was a dipshit so he did his own thing. She had no arc, she was annoying brat from beginning to end and they only forced her pokemon to kinda start liking her because its Pokemon and they dont like to push the idea of a bad trainer being given the spotlight with no change

>>58157930
>Still believe (something completely different)
You can't read, you seethe over shit that only you are angry about and project YOUR opinion as the one of everyone else's.

I am not shocked why you're became a hobo, you are a deranged nightmare to coexist with in person.

>>58157930
>Lots of people criticize Ash for behaving like a Kid, not just Iris
And they're all kids themselves which makes it cringe whenever they say it.

>>58157601
>She wasn't even able to control it in the beginning which was part of her character arc.
Does not change the fact that she gotten an insanely strong pokemon literally handed to her that she never had to release.

>>58157933
So not only did she got her ass up to stop being a pain to her own Pokemon, you're also missing the entire second point of my post by needlessly injecting yourself into it.

4/10, Irishaters are losing more and more of their dignity over time.

>>58157923
Not to mention Ash was actually older than Iris whereas Misty was the older one. Ash was 10, Misty was 12 so it made sense for her to tease him, but when Iris shows up she's assumed to be 12 while Ash, whose still 10 but they love that bullshit, appears much older and seasoned. That's like getting a job and one of the workers call you kid despite you being older and knowing more

>>58157947
>Ash was 10, Misty was 12
Misty in the anime was canonically 10 year old which was confirmed in the original Japanese version,

>>58156094 (OP)
Me

>>58157944
That's the equivalent of getting a Pokemon from a different trainer in the game and having to needing to match conditions to get its obedience.

You're throwing a fit about a thing that emulated from the game. Dragon Pokemon are inherently strong, her having to deal with one that might not obey her was expected.

>>58157947
If Ash and Iris began their journey simultaneously, while Ash was gaining experience from Kanto to Sinnoh, Iris was exploring Unova with an Axew that couldn't use Dragon Rage properly and an Excadrill that disobeyed her.

>>58157963
>That's the equivalent of getting a Pokemon from a different trainer in the game
The anime and game differ. The game focuses on wish fulfillment, making everything favor the player, often unfairly to NPCs. The original writers could have made Ash overpowered like the player but believed no character deserves special treatment and must achieve through effort and merit.

A sharp contrast to current writers who think their new anime-original characters are entitled to everything.

>>58157995
>The anime and game differ
And you still can't read my post correctly to understand want emulating something from a different media.

Again you're missing the point and turn into a massive cocksucking for the most retarded shit writing of the decade to defend wasting decades watching it.

Again, get a job ESLschizoid. You would done everyone with two braincells a favor that way.

Seethe more OP.

>>58158016
Why are you seething?