Thread 58157954

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It's because Paldea learned from Kanto instead of copying its homework

I prefer a linear game that actually works instead of an "open world" game vomiting shit in my eyes at 7 fps.

>>58157954 (OP)
my biggest gripe with paldea was that at the end of Starfall street I wandered around the front of the school for like an hour because I didn't know where the courtyard was

>>58157954 (OP)
What's the point of not taking a set path without level scaling?

>>58157954 (OP)
imagine caring what order you see the game in

>>58157954 (OP)
this is completely incoherent

Why do Paldeafags act like a low tier open world game is the greatest thing since sliced bread?

>>58157954 (OP)
Post a single iconic location from scat vomit

>>58157954 (OP)
SV would be better without level locks

Rika/Carmine vs. Bellelba/Bianca

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>>58157954 (OP)
>latinx region
gross

>>58158072
Hey, now. Cool it with the racism

>>58157954 (OP)
I like both. I love pokemon.

Sex with Nemona

>>58158072
it was better than Jeetlar

Common Paldea W

me when I lie >>58158170

>>58157954 (OP)
Gen 1-8 We have a carefully crafted experience for you
Gen 9: Who gives a shit, just go do stuff

me when truth hurts >>58158170

>>58158170
at least you tried

>>58158184
>carefully crafted experience
lol
lmao

>>58158170
open world is fun for the first hour or so and then drastically falls off into repetitiveness after that. kinda like xy

>>58158232
What kinda repetitiveness does it fall into

>>58158031
Cascarrafa was really cool, I wanna live there
The forest north of the lake was great too, really comfy vibes

>>58158170
Multi battles with Hilda!

>>58157954 (OP)
I love Paldea

>>58157954 (OP)
And yet, BW was a better game. Funny how that works.

>>58158363
If it was a better game, it would have sold more.

>>58158374
6th best selling DS game isn't enough for you?

>>58158381
No.

>>58158031
Area Zero

>>58158170
Based

>>58158227
SwSh had the best graphics in the series. SM had the best story. SV has neither and its style is ugly. If I wanted old rural Mexico I'd play Call of Juarez or Forza 5.

>>58158412
SV blows SMs story out of the fucking water my dude.

>>58158374
Yet, it was critically acclaimed at the time of its release. Almost like the quality of a game cannot correlate with its commercial performance. Funny how that works!

>>58158425
>SM
Well crafted from start to finish
>SV
Rushed nonsense till Area Zero
BW mogs both sorry

>>58158427
It wasn't.

>>58158446
this kills the genwarkek

>>58158441
?

>>58158461
only pokemon game with a Famitsu 40/40
>b-but Famitsu isn't reliable!!
oh, so that means BoTW sucks?

>>58158471
>oh, so that means BoTW sucks?
Anon, why are you asking this when you know for a fact what kind of answers you're gonna get?

>>58158461
Wow Nintendo Magazine gave a Nintendo game 95%? Stop the presses!

>>58158481
>I don't have a counter-argument so I'm only gonna mention the Nintendo Magazine review and nothing else
Your concession is gracefully accepted

>my argument was completely shattered so now i must parrot this concession line
If it was critically liked, it would have sold more.

>>58158430
>SM
Vague as fuck nonsense lore about UBs, Lillie is fucking annoying and has to be escorted constantly, rushed as fuck ending where the whole thing with Guzma and Lusamine happens within like 20 minutes, "Ultra Space" is literally a hallway in a generic cave, Lusamine gets the old "oh she wasn't evil she was just corrupted haha she's ok now :)" treatment which completely devalues her as a villain and removes all stakes the story had.
>SV
Well crafted mystery about Area Zero with buildup throughout the course of the game, Arven is a proper character who actually builds a friendship with you and isn't a helpless deadweight, ending sequence in Area Zero ties the three main storylines together by having their characters interact through conflict and revealing more about their backstory, huge as fuck lategame area you can go back to to explore, Sada/Turo were child neglecting maniacs who didn't care if Paldea would be destroyed, and actually met a tragic end by getting killed by one of the Pokémon they wished to "live in peace" with.

SM walked so SV could run. It's better in basically every aspect.

>>58158527
Factual post i fear

>>58158170
Thumbs up

>>58158250
>repe
the unvaried kind

>>58158446
NOOO YOU HAVE TO PICK A SIDE

>>58158461
>Professional Reviewers (AKA Please give us our early copies so we can play an hour and post our review before release. We promise we'll give you a good review and fire any rogue writers who think they can give honest reviews)

>>58158031
Area Zero
Cascarrafa
Secluded Beach
Ruchbah Squad's Base - North Province Area 3

>>58158667
So you can't answer?

>>58158080
permanent ban
you are NOT allowed to like pokemon on /vp/ - Pokemon

>>58158013
To challenge yourself while being underlevelled.

>>58157954 (OP)

Would you rather have a small goodie bag with your favorite stuff in it or a big empty bag?

>>58158181

Theres no level scaling in SV so you are forced to take a linear path anyway. Now stop lying.

>>58158170
Based.

OP Status: REKT

>>58157954 (OP)
Bait

>>58158446
This but unironically
It honestly terrifies me how many people for some reason believe every discussion simply must be an argument
Our whole society today feels built around yelling at each other
This shit is exhausting. Fucking stop.

>>58159695
I'm not forced to do anything doe. I can go fight Grusha right away and then after all my mons are level 50 i can breed a lvl1 Charmander and go fight Katy

>>58159761
It's really funny that they put the fire Team Star base right next to all the early game baby stuff

>>58159761
>dragon titan
>lvl 55
Lol, lmao. I do that shit with lvl 35. All you need is a Naclstack with Salt Cure and healing items.

>>58158504
Not necessarily. This was during a time period where people ignored critics btw.

>>58159761
I've done everything on the left side of the map south of the Titan in the big lake.
I have not gone out of my way to grind.
If anything, I was worried that I was avoiding too many encounters.

Now I'm heading toward the rock Titan (level 16) and the grass Gym (level 17) with a team full of Pokémon and four more alternates who rotate in and out of my boxes, all at or close to level 50.

Game Design (TM)

>>58160386
Go catch lvl4 lechonk and fight with that

>>58157954 (OP)
Both are good, but that's not a conversation this board is ready to have.

>>58158412
The game with the Ocarina of Time trees is the best Pokemon has to offer in terms of graphics?
Oh my.

>>58160369
that anon is either a troll, underaged or a retard. anyone who doesn't belong in these categories knows and recognizes that just because a game (or book, or movie, whatever) was praised by the critics doesn't mean it's gonna be a commercial success. conversely, just because it was heavily criticized doesn't mean it's gonna be a commercial failure

>>58160411
Yeah, some people seem to think that sales and reviews automatically imply quality.

If people like it and buy it, it's good quality.

>>58160455
Marvel and nuStar Wars are good quality?

>>58160295
It's kino. I got my ass kicked.

Spiderman No Way Home (Gen 9) is good quality so it sells
Madame Web (Gen 5) is bad quality so it doesn't sell

Nu Star Wars (Gen 9) is bad quality and yet, it's a commercial success.
Blade Runner (Gen 5) is good quality and yet, it wasn't a commercial success.

Anything else?

Blade runner was so bad quality they had to make multiple versions of it. Quite like Gen 5. Which is why they didn't sell.

>>58157954 (OP)
>"You are free to go wherever you want"
>There is literally nowhere worth going

>multiple versions
The... sequels, you mean? BW2? Which are pretty much enhanced versions just like Emerald and Platinum were, except with a different story and progression? IAre these the "multiple versions" you're talking about? Also,
>Blade runner was so bad quality
Funny you should say that, because it still ended up becoming a cult classic anyway. Quite like Gen 5.

Anything else?

Red and Sword sold well because they were good quality
White and X didn't because they were not good quality
Star Wars sold well because it's good quality and became a cult classic
Room did not sell well because it was bad quality and became a cult classic

Hoenn....
home....

>>58157954 (OP)
>Coomer has a shit opinion
Many such cases

>>58158446
Based enjoy all gens master

>>58160533
>it wasn't a commercial success.
All of this is silly when you consider that
>Pokemon has yet to release a primary pair of versions that sold less than 20 million copies
>for a game to not be successful it needs to lose money for the company
>no Pokemon game has the budget to lose money for the company even if it only sells 1 million

>>58159761
>>58158170
>I’m retarded and can’t beat NPCs with a number higher than mine so that means I can’t explore!!
kek is this the IQ level of gen 5 fans?

>>58158031
West Province Area 2

>>58160610
What is there "worth going" to in other games?

>>58157954 (OP)
it's amazing that SV is a buggy, barren, unfinished piece of shit but DESPITE that it remains playable simply because it follows the gameplay pattern that the series has been begging to follow for decades now

being railroaded is truly living in the cuckshed and I can't go back now that I've had my eyes open. All apologists for Gens 5, 6 and 7 need to be burned at the stake. Probably 8 too considering it's a straight line but I never played that trash so I have no idea

>>58163522
Correct take.
Also NEVER play Gen 8, it's so fucking bad it almost made me quit the whole franchise, holy shit.

>>58163522
FFX is linear and it's 100000000000000 times better than SV.

>>58163658
Ok and? We're talking about Pokémon

>>58163177
>the thing I’m screeching about isn’t the thing I’m screeching about y-you just made that up!
KEK

>>58163658
FFX is an autobattler.

>>58157954 (OP)
slightly stealthy yawnfag genwar thread dni

>>58158031
blueberry academy
>tfw the most memorable sv location is in unova

>>58158031
Alfornada where Tulip is located

>>58158170
fact flood

>>58159695
not really. I had basically the entire southern half of the map's warp points before I even went to the academy, because I glitched across the starter zone cliff face trying to fight a scyther I saw there.

Spent my first like 8 hours of the game playing hooky lmao

>>58163810
who? where?

>>58158031
Dalizapa Passage

>>58164301
Try playing the game anon, you can't know characters and locations of a game you haven't played

>>58158412
Dude, they're both shit, you're arguing about which log smells less

>>58163810
>it's iconic because uuuh i said so
the only remotely ""iconic"" location in SV is area zero

>>58164714
>it’s iconic because uuuh i said so
unova in a nutshell

>>58158425
Ohonono ahahahaha

>>58158028
See >>58158082
It's literally the worst game in the series, which is impressive in absolutely grim way after the mess of swsh. So they will seethe with a bunch of cope

>>58158005
How did they fuck this up so hard when they can at least get PLA to run well. Do they just remake everything from absolute scratch each and every single time

>>58158031
Nemona's butthole

>>58158059
SV would be better with SWHS's art director and artists, SM's writers, PLA's engine and world design philosophy (not great but better than SV), Let's Go Eevee's polish and companions or heart golds companion mode.

Like how the fuck does SV release 10 months after PLA and run like shit while looking like that. Absolutely insane desu.

>>58158170
>gen 8
>complex and fun dungeons

>>58164754
See >>58158527

>>58158170
>gen 5
>complex and fun dungeons

>>58158527
>>58164796
>SM vague lore
You mean *mystery and buildup*, something Game Freak hasn’t managed since? The UBs were actual horror-adjacent entities and gave Alola a sense of danger. Compare that to SV’s "AI professor talks at you for 30 minutes" and Area Zero ending that spoonfeeds you everything. But sure, pretend "vague" = "bad" when you just didn’t get it

>Lillie annoying, escort quest
Yeah, god forbid a character shows growth from timid to assertive across the story. Meanwhile Nemona is just a battle spam machine with the depth of wet cardboard. Enjoy your "friendship" with Arven, aka cooking sidequest boy

>Rushed ending
Alola had more *pacing* than the jank slideshow that was SV’s cutscenes. Guzma, Lusamine, Nihilego, UBs that’s more thematic weight than "AI mom/dad dies to their own hubris because lol drama"

>Ultra Space is a cave hallway
And Area Zero is… also a cave hallway. Cope harder. At least Ultra Space wasn’t a stuttery ps2 tech demo with pokemon clipping through the floor

>Lusamine not evil
She literally endangered her child, warped her worldview with obsession, and became one of the darkest "villains" Pokémon has ever done. You don’t have to be *murdered by a robot clone* to have stakes. Projection much?

>SV well crafted mystery
Lmao. It’s "walk to research station, hear 2 lines of exposition, repeat x4" This is not literature. The "mystery" is spoonfed while the frame rate tanks.

>Arven proper character
Arven is literally "doggo needs healing: the sidequest" Congrats, you liked the only storyline written above high school fanfic tier. Cope

>Ending ties three storylines
No, it railroads them. Penny and Nemona exist to quip and vanish. Don’t pretend that’s peak writing

>Huge lategame area
Yeah, a giant empty crater that looks like Unity Asset Store cliffs. Immersion shattered by pop-in every two steps
1/2

>>58158527
>>58164796
>>58164819
(cont)
>Sada/Turo tragic
Textbook melodrama. They don’t even develop on screen, just infodump and die.
"Child neglecting maniacs" is just a cope way of saying Game Freak can’t write nuanced villains anymore

People who post this drivel are the exact same types who equate "I understood the plot without thinking" with "good writing" They need neat bow-tied tragic deaths and Marvel-tier exposition to feel satisfied, because subtlety makes them insecure about their reading comprehension. That’s why they call SM "vague" they panic when not everything is explained in baby talk

Sun/Moon actually took risks: no gyms, rival arcs, cultural identity, moral gray villain. SV is just open world but empty, frame rate bad, story spoonfed

SM walked so SV could limp with broken knees.

Cope, seethe, and keep worshipping the stutter fest crater simulator

I'm not complaining that Gen9 finally bothered changing the game's formula at long last, I'm only complaining how that didn't happened at least 13 years ago back when B2W2 was new - and yet it followed an almost the exact same playstyle from 1996.

>>58157954 (OP)
Open world was the worst part of the game lol
It is one off those cases where the company must know better than its fans and refuse changes they demand but irl be bad. Same for voice acting… the day th Pokémon games have voice acting, they will be unbearable for anyone over 15 to play since every character will sound like character from Lazy Town

>>58165080
lol you fags that say this wanted some trash like mario 64 ds or those dogshit final fantasy remakes garbage ass games

>>58164743
Castelia and Driftveil are so iconic even normies at large remember them fondly. Try harder

>>58165102
Yeah everyone knows Charizard bridge. Oh wait... LOL

>>58164819
agree with most of what you said but you're severely downplaying Arven's worth as a character just for the sake of your argument, his story is touching and he's arguably the best written character in SV. he almost makes up for the embarrassing fucking flatboard that is nemona

>>58164819
>And Area Zero is… also a cave hallway.
Stopped reading here. You have no fucking clue what you're talking about.

>>58165118
Agreed. I liked both Lillie and Arven a lot.

>>58165196
Lol, lmao even

>>58165291
Cool argument.