Thread 58161218

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>>58141052

FAQ:
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he looks so happy!

>>58161267
A shame about those textures

Pokemon market bros...
not like this...

>>58161590
I sure hope so unironically.

>>58161590
>cheap AI-slop thumbnails
>tuber wearing (OF COURSE) baseball cap
>...
>backwards
yep
this is a shitty investorbro channel. It will die instantly when next down like those ones in 2022

zoomie-bros...
please keep our hobby alive...

You have to buy NOW, NOW is the best time NOW NOW NOW

No Riri

Today I bought booster packs for a friend's daughter. I'd buy second hand cards in bulk, I never buy boosters, but I want her first time to be more memorable.
Since I won't be seeing her anytime soon, I'll keep buying three packs every time a new set comes out

>>58161700
>loose Japanese packs
Bro...

>>58161630
Zoomers are getting into mtg instead of pokemon due to all the crossover sets.
It's over pokebros...

This bunny makes me feel funny

>>58161735
>mtg
dead ass boomer hobby
>>58161735
>crossover sets.
ahhh....nothing better than 10 spongebob-themed cards...
Pokemon is dead!!!

>>58161634
Its trending towards eclipsing moonbreon if it continues its trajectory.

>>58161747
Funny "haha" or funny "hehe"?

>>58161634
As an experienced shace card-anon:

unironically - yes. Just buy it now.
What can happen?

1) It will go up just like moonbreon. Only up and up.
2) IF (if) the market crashes - buy another one because it will climb up very quickly after that.

Bubble Mew is a 100% established chase card. It will __forever__ be a chase card just like Moonbreon, Giratina or Mega Gengar.
It's only up from now on.
And even if it will dunk a bit - there will be no reason to worry about because pokemon card collecting hobby is not gonna die any time soon.

The mistake many investors are making is that they are looking at the price of first edition base set booster boxes and packs.
And believe that in 25-26 years from now the products releasing today will gain equally or greater in value.
The only problem with that is the kids of today who should be playing, enjoying, and collecting these cards have essentially been alienated or gate kept by the adults in the hobby from obtaining products.
Most kids have nonchalant not really pokemon informed parents and just pick up whatever they find randomly around a kids birthday or christmas.
With that being said you can estimate kids that would have product is far less given the gobble up adult culture.
There will be far less adult hobbiest in 25-26 years then there is today because there will be far less nostalgia fueled adults bringing new money into the market.
A much smaller handful of kids will have nostalgia for Pokemon when they become adults.
By trying to get ahead of the 8 ball, theyve actually removed it entirely from the table.
Theres way too much foresight on holding sealed product for years.
Theres probably more pokemon cards still in sealed product right now stored away then there are packs opened.
In 25-26 years from now people will still see evolving skies booster boxes and packs regularly on auction sites, theyll never be hard to come by or rarely seen.
That will have some impact on buyers sentiments of how "rare" or not it truly is.

>>58161841
Lmao cope

Is it really a mail call if I got it from a church swap meet?

Ah well

The hobby can crash in a handful of ways, its not 100% risk free.

One day for absolutely no reason at all Pokemon could just start putting chase cards into box products a few months after release and completely tank their values which would have a trickle effect into sealed. As the expensive chase cards that justify their value no longer sustain their value.

The Pokemon company could cut out distribution and resellers and lgs and become a more straight to consumer seller. This would choke how distribution or resellers hold large amounts of product from consumers and demand more money for it.

Print to oblivion, new facilities, just 24/7 churning out product. Facilities dedicated to older product. Each week sees a new set reprint on shelves at big box or something.

Its not impossible for collapse. Its not precedented or likely. But not impossible for pokemon to go full konami and reprint to the ground.

Heck pokemon could even sell master sets as a product.

Nothing is impossible

>>58161870
GF knows about the reseller/hoarder market and they don’t care. The desire to Invest or buy them off shelves as soon as their stocked means more money in their pockets regardless if kids/genuine collectors get their cards

>>58161870
>But not impossible for pokemon to go full konami and reprint to the ground.
My wet dream. Imagine being able to buy cards anywhere, whenever you want.

>>58161630
>Kids vs. Millenials
I guess zoomers just don’t exist then
>>58161634
Honestly I don’t see the hype, picrel is obviously better

>>58161887
>onestly I don’t see the hype, picrel is obviously better
the artwork?
yours look like shit and small

>>58161878
You wouldn't care about pokemon anymore if that were to happen since the cards would have no value.

>>58161942
What if you’re a collectorChad and you collect because you like the cards?

>>58161942
I have no interest whatsoever in the value of cards. I only care about one thing: They have to be from the first three generations, because that's as far as I go. I don't consider anything beyond Pokemon Emerald canon.

>>58161841
I hope in 25 years not only pokemon will be dead, but we will also all be dead due to some nuclear war or something.

>>58161875
>They dont care
Source? Thats just your own personal bias coping and hoping they dont care.

>>58161983
I struggle going beyond anything outside of 1999 & 2000.
I hated Base Set 2 and Legendary collection as a kid and E-Reader.
Even when Gym Heroes & Challenge released I just wanted gen 2 pokemon and felt it was lazy putting a trainers name infront of the pokemon we already had like 5 sets of.

>>58161990
The fact that they’ve done absolutely nothing to stop it?
>hoping they don’t care
????

>>58162009
Theyve given distribution less supply in favor of big box like costco.
Theyve begun taking steps to put SIRs in box products. The Rockets Moltres was very close if it just didnt have that stamp.
Theyve increased printing.
Theres a few steps theyve taken, albeit baby steps. But the market finds ways to either circumvent or work around.
Eventually I think theyll just one day, drop a bomb on investor confidence.
It feels like its around the corner.

>>58161887
>meme stars
Any other vintage card would have been fine, gold stars are the current overinflated overhyped overpriced old meme set.

>>58162078
Its the oldest chase cards from the mid era. Its worth something definitely the younger millennials who had them as kids pursuing the sets as adults with adult money now.
Steep fall off after that though.

>>58162090
I'm only doing this because I don't have a wife

>>58162022
Yes, the company will purposefully shoot itself in the foot and drastically lower demand in its own product because won't somebody please think of the children!!!/1

You actually have room temp IQ. Impressive

>>58162332
Reminder, pokemon was popular way before investor bros showed up a few months ago, and will continue to be popular without them.
Yes Pokemon will intentionally shoot themselves in the foot if the product isnt hitting its key demographic as it will cause a massive fall off in interest ten-20 years down the road.
The Johnny-Come- Latelys arent integral to pokemons 30 year legacy and wont be down the road. Its children who grew up with it and then become nostalgic adults.
Investor bros are in effect detrimentally impacting that business model.
Pokemon isnt getting a cut of the secondary market. They truly dont give a shit.

>>58162332
You have in the box thinking incapable of considering the bigger picture.
Youre lucky to be in the position youre in, because it wasnt a business oriented mind that got you where you are, it was just luck and a little work.
But that can all be lost the same way it was gained, with bad luck.

>>58162022
The stamp is irrelevant and people who claim the moltres won't crash because it's technically a different card are hard coping. It is not a 30 year old reprint celebrations pikachu that moltres came out 2 months ago lmfao

>>58161630
>spending $400 a month on cards
holy financial illiteracy

>>58161999
Rainbow filter is the second ugliest thing they can do to a card, only behind the gold.

>>58161397
Didn't expect the card to be so glittery when I ordered it. I still like it though.

these cards are so fucking nice. What went wrong with SWSH/SV that all the ex's and V's these days are fucking worthless.

>>58161437
>still posting moonrunes
English is the only language with actual value

>>58162332
Franchise for children, if they stop caring then the IP is as good as dead.

>b-buh le adult fans
They'll die of old age and then what? Kids won't be there to replace them because they've been pushed away so they don't care for it.

>>58162895
>he doesn't know these were the exception even in their era
dumb tourist

How would I be able to check if these are real?
I bought two orders of 10 packs so 20 total from a random amazon seller that seemed to have good reviews and I am having a hard time accepting that I just pulled one from each 10pk.
The wrappers seem correct and everything looks fine to me, but I don't want to waste more money sending them to be graded if it's fakes

Another angle

>>58163252
They're fake bro just send them to me I'll get rid of them asap

>>58162689
Youre supposed to buy cheap shit at launch or msrp from pokemon center or costco then trade it for shit you actually want, or liquidate it for shit you want. People just buying things are subtards.

>>58163244
they seem to have the grooved texture so should be real?

>>58163244
They look fake, the bottom edges are weirdly damaged. You can see it on the ace spec card in the background too. It might be a sticker ontop of a real card. See if you can pull a thin layer on one of them.

How I sleep at night knowing that DISGUSTING 5BAN XY cards go for HIGHER than your precious MOONBREON cards.

Get FUCKING REKT newfag collectors.

>>58163252
>>58163244
Zoom in on your phone and compare the texture.

>the Japanese singles i needed doubled in price since January
Fuckin ell m8
Realistically, cards that come out during the scalper craze will go down in price, but cards that came out before will probably not (like 151), right?

>>58162717
I meant the poor English texture.

>>58163833
well the texture looks correct
>>58163383
yes it does have some damage on the bottom but there is no way it is a sticker
what is the damage going to do to the grading? I have never graded a card before, i hardly collect or anything i just like eevees, i wasnt prepared for this to happen

So it's pretty obvious by now they pack the chase cards only in like the first print of a run and that's it

>>58163221
I like this beedrill

>>58163879
Bought a lot of battle partners at release and got over a 50% SAR+ rate. Same for mega recently, 50% SAR rate. Also opened some BW a few days ago and 0 SARs out of 5 boxes.

>>58163885
I like you :)

Is there no way to message a seller on TCG Player? I wanted to ask about a card before buying it.

>>58164039
No, tcgplayer is a dogshit website.

>>58164066
Anything better? All I know is that and eBay

>>58162897
english has lower quality textures and mediocre quality control, perfect for a nation like mid usa

>>58164109
Whatnot

This is what every basic bitch modern vendor's table looks like.

>>58164212
This seems sussy

>>58164244
Yeah, I went to a card show that had like 200 tables.
I think one or two had the card I was looking for.
Its mostly all the same slop.
Its weird, these are the most sought after cards, yet i dont see vendors moving very many cards, still not very liquid.

>>58164413
Pokemon isint liquid at all and this is why the market is going to crash

>>58160982
>I still stand by that evolving cries is only pushed up because it came out during the coof (people couldn't line up to get it, started the scalping/fights, muh moonbreon logan paul investments era).

Shows you know nothing about Evolving skies, lmfao
This set is one of the most organically wanted sets of the past 10 years. There were NO fights when this set came out. You could ALWAYS walk into a store and buy packs of evolving skies for msrp. There were no buyouts, no scalping. People just buying when they wanted and opening the backs. Prices took off because it's LOADED with big pokemon that people love and it's hard to pull them. The even reprinted the set numerous times with release cycles. You could always get your hands on this set. People said it would take off from the moment it was printed, but people just wanted to rip it.

>>58161630
If children are currently unable to get their hands on packs, the hobby will die because there will be no nostalgia for those children once they grow up. They won't share the hobby with their kids as millennials are doing now because they never made those memories as children.

>>58164413
I remember asking about Sylveon ex from RC and some faggot next to me pointed to the Sylveon from Prismatic like that's the only Sylveon he knew. I picked these up atleast but now I want a fuck ton of the XY promos.

>>58164244
Yep, I went to a show a few days ago and jesus christ every vendor has the same dogshit modern cards. Though I only went to sell my overinflated modern cards for cash and did fantastic. These sneaky fucks think theyre getting a deal paying 70/75% for cards that 10x from the week prior kek. Biggest come up was when I sold a fat stack of Lp/Mp japanese tag teams and lil fags thought it was an amazing steal buying them at $9 a piece, I sold like 40 of those basic tag teams that I paid like 50 cents a piece for lmfao.

>>58164428
kids are getting pokemon cards.
A lot.
im in europe and we also have scalpers and vending machines with a weirdo boomoid attached to it but

1) "lame" (by investorcuck mind) sets are still in every newspaper kiosk. Journey Together and etc.
2) i keep seeing code-cards lying on streets. that means kids ripping packs and throwing codes away

Sure kids not ripping through that late Eevie set on daily basis but there is shit ton of pokemon products everywhere.
we even have pokemon magazines with pokemon cards packs inside.

>he's back
see you faggots next thread

Anyone have a 9 colors gathering and Eevee friends chinese umbreon? Any significant difference in the quality?

>>58164769
moonbreon that is

>>58164763
catkiller

The tears of my opposition is so SALTY.

>>58164730
Not nearly enough are getting in there hands as they should.
Even if its 20% less (its probably closer to 80%) thats a steep drop off in the future of nostalgic riddled adults perpetuating the hobby. Or sharing it with their children in the same way.
When I was a kid, it was almost exclusively kids at tournaments and toys r us and shit like that.
Now its almost exclusively adults.
Investor bros are ruining the tpci's business model which kept them going for 30 years.

>>58164417
I wonder if the market boom was just a bunch of people larping as sellers and gathering inventory now its all sitting there not moving.
One of the key flaws I found at the card show was tables selling at comps.
Little do they realize those comps include shipping and shit.
Its like youre supposed to be cheaper then comps because we're removing the whole shipping & fee aspect from the sale. Also the risk of lost in mail or not as described.
Its absolutely bizarre, then the audacity to trade at 60-80%.

>>58164985
i said this before, ill say it again, because i actually do research, unlike some shitty contrarians that just live in a state of denial.
its not a good thing that this happend. the pokemon card collecting always had money in it. it was always worth something. but collectors were a niche. most sets before 2014 have 100 or less pop cards in a PSA 10. while you see in the XY era some uptrend of people returning to card collecting after the Pokemon Go craze. more people were grading cards then. after that more and more people during S&M were grading cards, what looks like double the population in a PSA 10 compared to XY. Now for SWSH and PF we have monstorous pop counts, with people dumping money into frankly not rare shit that will not be good for themselves or the pokemon market as a whole. this isnt gatekeeping this is reality. if everyone has 1 million dollars, than no one is rich. if everyone has a moonbreon, then its not rare, and if everyone is getting these cards, despite what graphs and poketubers are claiming, they are doing it halfheartedly knowing that this shit isnt going to last and their gulible audience doesnt know how to do research or look at pop reports and question reality. there were conspiracies before 2020 that PSA would do population control to keep people who already graded cards in stable pricing, not giving out easy 10's to vintage cards. but now that conspiracy has to be a myth. said it for years despite the hate. this shit is wrong. dont waste your money on this market. people are dumb and dont realize the rammifications. if your shit crashes, YOU'RE COOKED, not the rest of us. the captain must go down with the ship.
INB4 EVERYONE IS RIGHT IN A BULL MARKET.
name 1 other collectable that the new shit is higher valued than the old shit, ill wait.........no longer because thats no longer true. dont have your feelings hurt because you live in a state of delusion that doesnt equate to reality. you all had inflated egos.

>>58165011
pic related.

>>58164769
They're printed in Japan, so the quality is the same, kinda. There's is a difference if you get it from a slim pack or a jumbo pack though:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXCekiN2UyU

>>58165011
The secondary market doesnt increase tpci's bottom line.
They have no skin in the secondary market to protect it.
If anything its a detrimental to their bottom line, as it prevents product from getting to their key demographic (6+)

>>58165011
The 12 year olds of today are the 22 yr olds of the next decade.
They wont be investing or collecting as they have no nostalgia or sentiment towards the product.
And pokemon being unable to sell a product ten years from now isnt a good outlook for future gains.
Even if its boosting sales temporarily for one year, thats a drop in the bucket on whats currently the 30 year time scale and what will be the 40 or 50 year time scale.

>>58165011
Until people realize there is no scarcity and can find any card they want at any given time in any grade they want online.

>>58165024
Okay damn, gonna have to go for the slim pack ones, I hate all the extra glitter

The investor market is made up entirely of resellers and sellers who cant move product at market price and just end up acquiring more and more inventory over time. They cope with the multitude of cards that cant sell or move by saying theyre investing. This is why its only other sellers buying out other sellers at shows.
Its a game of hot potato.

>>58164992
>I wonder if the market boom was just a bunch of people larping as sellers and gathering inventory now its all sitting there not moving
Bingo. There was no "boom" , what actually happened was a lot of people thought they could make a quick buck after watching a YouTube video
>Its absolutely bizarre, then the audacity to trade at 60-80%.
That's just shrewd/good business on their part and better than what you'd get at an LGS. Buy other people out of their bad positions at w discount

>>58165064
This desu. It's hot potato with unmovable bags

>>58165064
Kind of feels like this.

https://www.pricecharting.com/game/pokemon-prismatic-evolutions/umbreon-ex-161

Funny how the current hot card only changes owners once per day on ebay, probably the largest platform for cards

>>58165035
sellers have zero obligation to protect the collectors market. you are correct. they are in a different position with different motives. they dont spend all day looking at pop reports or pricing of shit that was sold 10 years ago. they sit around and push the new set for their money. they are not bad people, but in all their glory of making money, they fucked the collectors market and there is no "correcting it". unless in the next 5 years we see double the populations of sets grow making the sets that are overinflated today look like nothing, this shit will just be a scar on the big picture of whats on the market to collect. you can go for rare shit pre 2020. or you can go for "rare" shit post 2020.

>>58165096
Wdym "they fucked the collectors market"

>>58165100
lurk more newfag. you either understand the chapter we are on the story or not. im not rereading the book to fill you in.

>>58165108
If you can't explain this, you're just being retarded then.
They didn't "fuck the collectors market", from their perspective it doesn't even exist, or at least they don't care if it does. It's not like they do things like this intentionally, they're just making the game

>>58165088
The winner here is eBay taking 10% as the unsellable bag changes hands once per day

>>58165112
no what im saying is that i have explained this shit for the past 2 weeks after compiling the data to make bar graphs so people can have somehting tangible to look at to understand the market because people were going of narratives and beliefs that were no longer correct. im not going to sit here and give a hour long powerpoint presentation on the state of teh market because you show up late. lurk more newfag.

if you dont understand my 1000IQ takes is because you are pea brain. shut up and listen you might learn something.

>>58165121
If this was true you could just post the graphs....
I've probably been in these threads longer than you

>>58165152
ok so instead of fighting me over my ideas. how about this. you spend days going over pop reports on PSA pokemon submissions to collect data on whats going on so that you can present a graph to the thread on the state of a market and make a bunch of claims.
until that time you are just a antagonistic naysayer 10IQ poo poo head.

you know, i should be nicer to stupid people. because without your stupidity, i probably wouldnt strive harder to not be like you.

>>58161870
>Print to oblivion, new facilities, just 24/7 churning out product. Facilities dedicated to older product. Each week sees a new set reprint on shelves at big box or something.
I am genuinely confused as to why Pokemon Company hasn't done this yet. It's been over a year. They know product is bought out instantly, so they should be flooding the market. And flooding. And flooding. And flooding. Keep flooding until people stop buying. Eventually the hoarders won't be able to buy, and if that doesn't happen, that just means Pokemon Company didn't flood enough, print more.
Sure, it's easy for me to say "Just print until nobody buys it anymore like what happened with SwSh boxes. Take the loss", but that might honestly be the only path forward to break this fucking chokehold

>>58165369
Shit, or better yet, print to demand from the fucking Pokemon Center. I'm not gonna stake out a fucking digital storefront for "stock". Just let me order some boxes and ship them to me when the next print happens

>>58164253
only if ur a baka

>>58165155
This could have all been fixed if you just shared whatever the fuck you were actually talking about
Your reluctance to do so tells me that you don't even have any information or insight to begin with

Does anybody know where I can download all of the dot codes from the e-reader cards?

Everyone KNOWS that moonbreon has a pop report in the 10,000s for a PSA10. This isn't some hidden stat. You aren't finding some hidden trendline that others are aware of.
This isn't the Big Short. You don't have information others don't.
People buying and selling moonbreon know that there are over 15k other PSA10s, and 20x as many raw versions of the card that they could buy. They just don't care.
This is why pop reports don't matter that much. Your data is public. The people buying know it.

>>58165452
Stop engaging with the raging schizo, you retard.

>>58164992
>Its like youre supposed to be cheaper then comps because we're removing the whole shipping & fee aspect from the sale. Also the risk of lost in mail or not as described.
>Its absolutely bizarre, then the audacity to trade at 60-80%.
i once recieved a product from Ebay for free because ebay is usually on buyers side.
I didnt try to scam or anything - it just happened. ebay refunded me but i still got the thing

>>58165369
>>58165373
>Keep flooding until people stop buying
Surely multibillion corporate will do this to save the poor children who want to collect!!!
TPC doesn't care who buys, as long as product is flying off the shelf after 30 seconds. It's baffling how people think TPC will go against their own short-term interests, because yeah that's how it works in corporates: the only thing that matters is that THIS YEAR must go better than LAST YEAR. There's no long term vision because TPC/Creatures/Nintendo/GF is such a behemoth that even if the card market tanks, something else will replace it. They are not your local card store, where if cards tank=close. Pokemon have tons of alternatives for income.
You are 100% right when you say that in 20 years there will no 30yo with nostalgia because they skipped the kid collecting phase, but TPC does not care because in 20 years there will be something else to sell. "Right now" is what matters, right now 2025 is doing record sales, and right now shareholders are happy because 2025 graph >>> 2024 graph.
Let's say in 2-5 years the bubble bursts, and in 10 or 20 years pokemon cards will sit on the shelves like they did in 2013. Oh no, the pokemon company is finished! Let's ignore the fact that they make billions with other merchandise, anime, games, etc, maybe in 10 years the big pump will be plastic coins and so TPC will release 2 sets of cards per year, and 50 sets of coins because it's the new short-term trend. Their objective is minmaxing revenue year by year, and it does not have to be cardboard.
TPC is not on your side, you are on your own.

Alright I finally bought this card. Please pump it up so I can justify it bros.

>>58166330
I can't tell if you agree with me or not, so...
TPC needs to print more until product sits on shelves, yes.

>>58166373
My point is that they will never do it, they have no reason to.

>>58166340
>piss border
worthless bulk

>>58165452
nice non arguement. do you have a SOURCE to back up your claims?
>>58165496
5ban trash goes for more than moonbreon trash. LLLLLLLLL

in 2022 you could bought a PSA 10 RayGAYza 5TRASH card in a PSA 10 for 1k, or you could have bought a MOONBREON QUIRK CHUNGUS in a PSA 10 for 1k. one is going for 7.5k, the other is overhyped trash with high pop reports that retards fork over 4k for.
I will never let you let you guys live down this.

>>58164244
damn, what a cool selection, just hope the prices are reasonable.

STOP TALKING ABOUT MONEY NO ONE CARES AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>58166568
>THE GAME OF LIFE IS ONLY FUN WHEN IM WINNING

>>58163244
Never buy loose Japanese packs. Once the hit is pulled from the box then the rest of the packs are basically garbage, and this is what they resell as loose packs. In your photos the cards do not seem to have a texture layer, but you mention they do. Can you take a closer pic of them showing the texture lines? Other than that everything looks genuine, so maybe you we're lucky and got random packs from a box and not leftovers

>>58166439
I'm not paying $150 more just for silver borders autist.

>>58166593
Yes in the second pic you can see some of rhe texturing, it matches at least in that location.
How do hits work? I'm just guaranteed one of the SAR in each box and I just rolled good luck getting both umbreon or what?

I did a lot more research and it seems the damage to them would make them psa 8-9 which don't sell for much more than raw so I will just psa the one I keep and if it comes back authentic I can sell the worse one as a raw to cover the cost of my gambling addiction (and buy the glaceon sari)

>>58166707
oh so you bough the boxes then I misunderstood that. Turns out you are extremely lucky then and both SARs from each box were blacky

Why yes, I DID cancel my TAG order for grading before sending my cards in. Should I even bother getting them graded? I have a few worth a few hundred naked

Nah, this ain't fucking feasible
What were people saying?
>dude reprints going to costco and sams club is a good thing actually!
>250,000 units? That's alot! They won't sell out!
How can TPCI be this retarded?

Sold out in less than 20 minutes btw

>Buy some reverse holos i was missing
>Shipped in toploaders
>Postal worker somehow still manages to fuck them up
At least they weren't that expensive

>>58167108
Last week someone sent me cards that were only in sleeves, thank god they werent damaged.

Only time I have noticed damage is in picrel, the big case did its job thankfully

>>58167108
Dude much of the reverses of that era are more rare than the regular, especially stamped
I don't know at what quality you bought it at, but I'd be really fucking pissed if a stamped out of print reverse got damaged, go full scorched earth
For that reason I only buy them if they're graded

Also the holo pokeball graphics look sick on this era

>>58166854
I did my best to find a seller who had honest description and reviews, Ir looks like they are not out of stock though or I would buy more lol
Was https://www.amazon.co.jp/sp?is-secure=true&&language=en&ie=UTF8&seller=A3N9DDX6Z2ZVQG

>>58167108
Nah this sucks, EX era reverses are some of my favourites.

>>58167144
I know, i'm just glad it was only a few of the cheaper reverse holos that cost like 5-10€ a pop. All the more expensive ones were undamaged
>>58167148
Mine too

>>58167244
As a sidenote: if you live in Europe, avoid GLS if you can like the plague. They seem to be in the business of fucking up your mail

Mail

>>58167383
>pokemon go
unfathomably based
most underrated S&S era set
can't wait until the faggots shitting on that set come crawling back once youtubers pump and dump it

>>58167419
Pokemon go fuck yourself

Lmfao the chinese pikachu with gengar is in the english halloween trick or trade boooster packs.
Lmfao investors cooked.

>>58167897
does it come with a stamp?

>>58167903
Nope

>>58167897
fake news

>>58167939
Its posted in like every poketubers discord newgoof

>>58168055
>Spiritomb is a Ghost/Dark-type Pokémon from the Sinnoh region, formed by 108 spirits trapped in an Odd Keystone as punishment for misdeeds. It's a ghostly purple Pokémon that projects itself from the stone and doesn't evolve into or from any other Pokémon.
Based AF

>>58168013
>he's on poketubers discord
scammer/scalper/investor/faggot detected
don't forget to shill more cards you want to pump on reddit!

>>58168095
Bros made because his chinese gengar is now worth the price of a halloween pack.
Kek

>151 Cosmos
>151 HD Cosmos
>Prize Pack Cosmos
>Professor Program Cosmos

>>58168105
I'm always happy to see you investor faggots fail, so it's a good thing it will crash
You on the other hand are a scamming retard

Gengar Bros status?
:O

>>58168188
LOL!

I found a box of my old pokemon cards but they were in a storage unit loose in a cardboard box and they're all warped. Am I cooked or will sleeving them and putting them under something heavy be enough? They look fine otherwise.

>>58168188
Imagine paying hundreds for that card and now its available in English and worth a penny. Lmfao

>>58168119
what about
hex
tera cosmos
tera league cosmos
tera professor cosmos
tera cracked ice

>>58168313
Put them inside a heavy book for a day or two
If for grading purposes, you don't need to, they warping doesn't factor into grade

holy shit the Chinese mew will probably be in English for the 30th with no stamp

>>58168373
Why would I want those

>>58167897
>>58168013
>>58168105
You realize what's going on right?
If you believe that poketubers can drive UP prices, then by default you're implicitly admitting they can also drive DOWN prices
Make no mistake, this poketuber illuminati is making a play, big time
Start a rumor, get the bagholders to panic and start selling off immediately at a locked in price that will only go down and down and build up a massive inventory of that card
Once card list is revealed and that card isn't there, they will pump up the card again

Don't fall for these tactics

>>58168413
Dont collect foreign language cards.
Okay got it.

>>58168418
Just like buying any single Pokemon card of any language, don't do it on or near release
Price will ALWAYS drop and stabilize before it starts going up again

Oh noh noh noh noh noh
https://www.pokebeach.com/2025/08/this-years-trick-or-trade-halloween-packs-may-feature-exclusive-cards

>>58168410
They're reprints, reprintfag

>>58168454
>No product images have been released yet.
>While these Halloween sets have always contained reprinted cards, the description for this year may be indicating the set will feature exclusive cards.

Where does it say anything about Gengar?
If anything it indicates it will feature original cards, exclusive means it won't be a reprint

>>58168454
retard

>>58168465
All the cards from the set are already leaked. Someone opened a bag of boooster packs.

>>58168564
Either pokebeach isnt reporting on it, because they rarely do leaks.
Or they havent updated the article yet or written a new one with them in it.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dTImQMt-ifQ&pp=ygUJcHRjZ3JhZGlv

>>58168465
They're just trying to cope lol

>>58168455
The end outcome is collecting every energy card in scarlet & violet.
I dont think im up to the task, it might be a bit much.
I kinda only really care about the pokemon themselves.
Giovanni and erika are cool, but yeah :\

>>58168564
>>58168573
So post it then
You all keep talking about "rumors" with no proof
Otherwise fuck off with your gossip

>>58168650
Youre not apart of the community

>>58168656
Cool, now I know it's just gossip
Thanks for confirming

The rattle discord is annoying

>>58167419
>>pokemon go
>unfathomably based
>most underrated S&S era set
this set is absolute shit garbage stink
worst set ever.
and it has worst art

but yeah sure investorcucks will hype that MewTwo someday

>>58168694
If they hyped up a total ugly shitmon like pimpletoad with the vomit style artwork that people think is "good" (its shit).
They will literally and can literally hype up anything and everything.

>>58168694
damn such ugly art, worst of the set

>>58168756
I'm glad we agree

>>58168694
nice cherrypicking, you can find ugly art in every pokemon set ever, that means nothing

>>58168454
>May feature exclusive cards
>GUYS IT'S GENGAR 1000% ITS OVER MARKET WILL CRASH

Shitji Kanda sisters...

Steelix!

>>58165064
Kinda true, I see several solid deals on cards but nobody still buys them cause they cost 600-800 and a sensible average collector with an average wage does not throw that much at a card

>>58168656
The discord investor community? Fuck off.

>>58168679

All discords are like this imo. People are annoying and self centered. You see the same few loud mouths posting like they are running out of air.Too many people acting chummy talking about their mars worker life like anyone gives a shit. No real discussion there or knowledge much like /r pokemontcg or investing.

Fun to troll though. I got a empoleon and tyrnaitar tin at walmart and asked I wonder if anyone will cat scan these to see if ES skies packs were in it in the future. Mr cowboy himself responded like I was asking seriously then stated paying $75 for $25 of packs is lol.

I got a good chuckle that mr rattle trying to sell his M Charizard psa 10 to pay for a dress. lol, lmao if true.

Only use for that is for restocks.

>>58168380
Ok cool, thanks. I honestly don't know if I'm gonna grade them or not, just wanted to know if it's still an option. Even found my old Charizard and stuff, I was pretty excited. Still don't know where my old binder is, or if I just dumped it in the box at some point.

>>58168756
Mogged by China.

why they dont release some new sets with a different card style? Cant they release something like expedition again, i like those large borders

wow i sit around and watch my collection keep going up. im now up another 2k in the past week.
all these ugly XY S&M cards that are dookie are really never going to see appreciation in value like modernslop. sooner or later it will slow, but not this week.

>>58168976
First time seeing that AR Steelix. I'm going to buy one.

Mail day!

:D

>>58168617
you already got 2 out of the 3 hardest energy sets from SV (HD and prof 2023), why not go for the rest?

aaaaa I hate how long it takes to get the cards after ordering them

Sold my english Miriam to buy the JP one. It does look better but not worth the $55 difference. The Carmine SIR is 100% worth the price difference. Guess I will just not buy any JP trainer card if the price difference is over $50.

>tfw impulse bid about $50 per neo legendary beast card
>won them all, $150+tax+tip gone

Can someone post the discord link

>>58169683
I know he sold a raw first edition base set charizard to rusty to help with legal fees.
Rusty graded it and it came back a 6.
No idea if rattle ever re-obtained it or not.
Rusty made that public knowledge in a youtube video a while ago.
Never heard anything about a PSA 10 and a dress. Maybe hes getting married or something.

>>58171000
I dont know if I want a significant portion of my binder to be energy cards.
It looks kind of slick sometimes.
I feel like its kind of boring tho too.
Its something I toil over in my head about to be honest.
Like right now the binder is 151 + reprints.
And because switch and psychic energy are apart of the set, you can easily get carried away with including all the switch reprints and technically fore-prints since switch was in scarlet & violet base.
Couple that with all the energy reprints and print variations, and quickly the binder just idk.
Honestly I loved energy cards or energy themed cards as a kid and had a little collection.
Might be a bad collecting habit im perpetuating as an adult.
Maybe if you can convince me a full page would look good, i might.

>>58172186
Who cares man
If you're the type of person whose collecting energies to begin with then you're already very stupid and autistic
I'd sooner burn all my cards than put a single energy in my binder

>>58172207
Im a collector, this means complete and comprehensive.
Not just whats valuable.

POST CARDS!

>>58170995
>Pulled another SAR whimsicott
Fucking sucks when you get duplicates

>>58171838
I got the T-Chinese version of her and Erika's Invitation because their price was around in the middle between English and Japanese while having the print quality of the latter.

>>58172224
Okay, and it's not complete and comprehensive without those additional energies.

Which card has the cutest girl?

>>58173043
Dont make me do it boss

>>58172224
It's not about value, there are some energies more valuable than modern SIR's, it's about being retarded enough to collect energies to begin with
You're an utter moron, even lower than scalpers and investors

Finally bought this beauty. Saw multiple people selling it for $40 but one of the vendors I really like gave it to me for $25.

>>58170023
It sold like shit during release, right? I like the different style but I don't see why they would try something like that again.

>go to the hospital
>hospital is outside of the town
>there is an Edicola
>it's full of pokemon cards
>buy Destend Rivals

fucking sweet...
for the first time in this year i have all kinds of cards i want
I even stopped tracking pokemon card hobby because i dont see cards - only random boxes and overpriced stuff

Holy shit anons i will be visiting that hospital from time to time. Scalpers dont know about it so they obviously won't go for some random hospital.

it feels so good to open cards.

>>58174252
>stealing cards from sick kids
>bragging about it on /tcc/
yikes

>>58174261
i just bought 4 packs. got Articuno EX and pretty happy about it actually - articuno is one of my favs.
lots of fun regular cards too

>get two booster bundles last Friday
>only opened one pack so far
>not even sure I'll open one this week
Gotta make it last lads.

>order card on ebay
>mint condition
>arrives creased
>not sure if mail fucked it up or seller scammed me

>>58174621
>order card on ebay (masterball pattern card)
>arrives damaged
>talk about that with seller
>sellers sends me another
>arrives regular reverse holo - not masterball
wha the fuck was that store...

>shut up spend money and continue to participate in this rigged market.
lol, no.

They should SLASH the pull rates, like a SIR in every booster box, maybe two. 33% or even 50% chance to get a hit.

>>58175120
Then gtfo tourist.

>>58175183
>MODERNBAG CULTISTS WANTS TO BATTLE
>MODERNBAG CULTISTS SENDS OUT MODERNBAG CHARIZARD

>want to buy packs/cards
>only have JP cards/pavks
>in USA for the next 3 months
What do I even do without sounding mad

>>58175239
I have so many cards that are just appreciating in value, theres literally no point for me to run out to the store and try to fight people for modernbags. especially since i know that modernbags are not worth the money.

>>58175606
Then post them.

another day
another investorcuck made an ass of himself
>didn't get spot in line to scalp pokemon
>gets pushed
>cries MOM!!! MOM!!!
https://youtu.be/5lNwaNuc2mg


are there any investorcucks?
you are fucking scum. nobody has respect for you fucking degenerates

>>58173210
Why do you care what I collect?
Bro hates energies.

>>58174252
>Gift option at hospital for sick children being exploited by grown man.
The hobby is at a new low.

>OH FUCK OH FUCK OH FUCK OH FUCK OH FUCK
>DESTIN RIVALS JUST WENT UP 200%. FUCK QUICK GO BUY ETB's.

>>58173210
>How dare you collect something that doesn't suit my personal preferences or standards you must be a retard, youre a completely and utter moron for finding enjoyment in something I despise. I consider you lower then a scalper and investor because you actually collect pokemon cards but the kinds of cards I personally lament.

Should I post my binder pages of code cards and see what his reaction is?

>/tcc/ daily melties
I laff evryteim

>>58176109
I love this thread

https://www.dickssportinggoods.com/p/pokmon-tcg-prismatic-evolutions-booster-bundle-25wjcupkmnprsmtcvxflb/25wjcupkmnprsmtcvxflb?sku=27699093
Time to pick up gear of my favorite sports team Pokemon.

Imagine being a collector and having to pay for winner stamp Pikachu. I went out and won 2 of them. Free money.

>>58176401
>not getting them for free as you judge a basically unknown store that didn't give out for jr and sr

>>58176659
damn brat...

does anyone here have any pop 1 psa 10s?

>>58176084
>n at hospital for sick children being exploited by grown man.
why would you assume i went to a kids hospital?
fucking retard are you a zoomer so you automatically assume that?

>>58164721
Megabased anon. Dump those modern bags on those fools

yep it's pokemon card collecting time!

https://youtu.be/CGU9vyuuu1c

>those UPC-charizard cards were so cheap
>now buying both of them costs as UPC box MSRP
this time i won't fuck up
i will be buying as many stamped Moltres cards as i can.
Moltres is one of my favorite pokemon and i will be stuffing my binder with its cards in different languages

Im sure at the start of release scalpers will start whining about this card so it will be cheaper + cheaper later when "nobody will care until everybody will start caring" like with thece UPC charizards

>>58177726
Its a hospital, children can still go there.
The items are meant for them.
Stop

>>58178062
im also a child
a MAN-child

i see you still thinking in binary terms
you can't comprehence me

Lady's & Gentlemen
The hobby has reached an all time new low.
People are now attending hospital kiosks and targeting pokemon themed items, aka cards. Which are typically meant for children, likely sick or injured children who are admitted in the hospital.
Not only are grown men purchasing these items for themselves, they post online and brag about how theyre going to exploit this system so they can have pokemon cards for themselves.
Wow.

>104 More until 23k in a Gem mint 10.
>32,002 total graded.
they just keep finding more and more to grade. wow.

>>58178104
pop doesnt matter
30-40k cards mean nothing if hobby is so big there are definitely more than 100k people interested in pokemon cards

pop
doesnt
matter

Saaar! Do not devalue the gift card!
I will fuck you bloody!

debating selling a large chunk of my collection for a down payment on a newer vehicle for the winter. but then what if the car i end up getting is a junker? I'm just not sure cards are filling the void right now but I don't want to do something rash

>>58178174
>t. common card enjoyer.

>>58178174
if pop doesnt matter than why do cards that were cheaper than moonbreon now go for more?
is the market being manipulated now?

or are you still coping and not adjusting well to the new norm?

>>58178758
What is pop

>>58178830
when a card gets graded, the grading companies will assign a serial number to each indivitual card, tracking how many cards are there, and shows the population or "pop" of a specific card on reports available on their databases.
its an effective tool to determin the rarity of a card in a good condition and to win arguments against newfag collectors born yesterday.

why is youtube and card collecting always showing you the most degenerate people on the planet

>>58178758
>why do cards that were cheaper than moonbreon now go for more?
>is the market being manipulated now?
becuse hobby grew and it's here to stay for years.

Pop doesn't matter because.
1) those cards are pretty much all. It's not that much actually. There are way more than 100 000 pokemon card fans and collectors
2) Moonbreon is out of print. Those 30k pop is pretty much ALL WE HAVE
3) And this is pretty much "the pool" that will be feeding the card collecting hobby FOR YEARS into the future.

imagine
pokemon card collecting hobby has only 30 000 copies of moonbreon till the end of times.
Just buy one now. it will be only more expensive as years pass by.

pop
does
not
matter
(unless it's a shitty forced meme card. And not a healthy growth of an ultra popular pokemon like Moonbreon Gengar or Giratina or....you get the point)

>>58179351
>an ultra popular pokemon like Moonbreon

>>58178860
TOP KEK
for real
i was actually willing to create exact same post yesterday because i absolute hate the content Youtube feeding me if i search for pokemon cads and then algorythms fucking up my updates showing these awful degenerates with shitty thumbnails

this why i moved all pokemon search/content to a different youtube account because this "kids youtube"-tier crap would mess with your updates forever

>>58179361
I'm sorry your favorite is shuckle, anon...

HOLY SHIT BROS IT'S HAPPENING!!!

our next move???

>Mega charizard
>Chase tier artwork that looks like one of those Sw/Sh - chase cards
yeah i think we fucked

>>58179456
I watched the video. It was basically him saying "yeah, I manipulate the market. Now stop whining and get more money". Nomics is based and likely MAGApilled.

>>58179531
he talks about paldean fates

I personally don't care dont believe and even if P.F. will be super expensive and even if Shiny Charmander will be 200 bucks - i won't care.
it's kind of a "meh" set...
i guess if you like baby shinies it's good. but it's just a pokemon on a white background with stars...

>>58179351
thats not the point. the point is that there were plenty of cards from pre 2020 that in which i claimed were undervalued compared to the new modern market. for years i pleaded with anon's in this thread not to be too foolish to spend too much money on these new overhyped, overgraded cards. for years and years i got trashed by the flocks of new collectors enjoying their easy and undeserved wins of the new manipulated market. but now the cards that were thought of as "trash" are now fetching higher value than this new modern era. where i have had years of "cope" and "seethe" thrown at me for my beliefs. they are now eating their own words. despite all the hype and pumping, these cards that are super new and super expensive have become stagnant and the older vintage market has surpassed it when it was less valuable than it. ill attribute the organic growth of these cards to actual scarcity. and actual supply and demand. meanwhile though the new market is still way to high to be normal, its being dwarfed. pop does matter. must suck, you grow up get told men are men and women are women and pop reports matter and it just frys your tiktok zoomer brain. LLLLLLLLL

>>58179351
Did the *hobby* grow, or did the *hustle* grow?

Nearly every Pokémon card channel that started over the past 5 years is just a grindset/get rich quick channel with Pokémon cards being presented as nothing more than a means to an end. There are well over 10000 PokéGrindset channels at this point...

>>58179557
>not to be too foolish to spend too much money on these new overhyped, overgraded cards.
I agree.
But i wouldn't call Moonbreon overhyped in a scummy investor way.
You can be not a fan of Umbreon as a pokemon but it's definitely one of the best sw/sh pokemon cards.
It's a symbol of the whole generation at this moment and it will stay like that.
It proved it's worth and honesty over years and had a healthy growth.

For example a "shitty meme-tier growth" i would call a CHUNK-a-choo. It was super popular during Covid/LoganPaul craze and people thought it will be one of the big chase cards.
Nobody cares about chunky pikachu anymore - it was forced overhyped meme and manipulation.
It died despite Pikachu being super popular.

Moonbreon is a healthy card you can rely on. It will be there to stay.

(sorry i didnt the rest-there are probably some other pointsbut i have to go now)
PS:
Same thing about Rainbow Charizard from that same time-period.
i remmeber everybody chasing rainbow charizard. there was a channel MaxMoefoe who ripped throught thosaunds of packs but never got it and when he pulled it it was a shitty damaged card.
what an awful forced meme...


But yeah - when you see Moonbreon you see the style and quality.

>>58179456
>Pumping 151
>its the 3rd most graded set in a PSA 10.
i will never not get good use out of this bar graph.

>>58179592
>Did the *hobby* grow, or did the *hustle* grow?
The hobby grow, anon.
The fact there are degenerates and hustlers just means it's a very popular hobby.
Even if i don't like them i prefer my hobby being so popular that even 40-50y/o losers would try to fit in.

excellent and educated research nostalgia nomics. what other truth nvkes you going to drop on the pokemonworld.

>>58161218 (OP)
A major Yugioh vendor made a whole ass video whining about how the Yugioh market isn't going to the moon like Pokémon LMAOOOOO

>>58179614
Idk man...for every 1 DPM you've got like 1000 Nomics clones.

>>58179627
>Idk man...for every 1 DPM you've got like 1000 Nomics clones.
those a little sperms in a sea of cum i bucket'ed looking at pokemon waifus

those are nothing
you can literally name almost all famous poketubers and there will be less than 10-20 of them

>>58179619
my vintage remaines unaffected.

>>58179619
th...there was a Yugioh market?

>>58179627
>Nomics clones

Don't forget, Nomics himself is an AlphaInvestments clone...only with less than half the IQ. Also, when Rudy's not pumping his bags he's giving life and career advice. When Nomics isn't pumping his bags he's talking shit about "poors".

By the way, Rudy openly hates Nomics; he had a video a couple months ago where he was talking about how he "hates influencers who make everyone think if you work a regular job you're a loser, and convince everyone investments need to all be 10xing in less than 5 years". He didn't directly call out Nomics, but it was very obvious who he was talking about.

>>58179659
The fact that it has been FLAT in the most insane collectibles bull market in history is still concerning. For instance, Gold Stars have 3xed in the past 6 months, meanwhile old Ultis are the same prices that they've been at for the past 3 years.

here is the nostalgia nomics formula
>step 1 take 10k and buy evolving skies booster boxes
>step 2 tell timmies they are broke and cannot afford it.
here is the rudy formula
>step 1 run a legitimate card shop

>>58179394
Read that again, retard-kun.

why people buying damaged cards?

>>58179466
This.
im waiting for this set to drop. I'm a basic bitch - i just like Charizard!

>>58179688
>>58179741

Rudy's an old out of touch boomer from a different era. It's the same as how old school businessmen and Buffet/Burry-style value investors hate on modern memestock and crypto investors, because people naturally hate what they don't understand. And it's not just finance; it's old people hating anything new. Just like how boomers hate rap music, and the parents of boomers hated rock music.

>>58179834
i dont imagine a human is writing this. i imagine a goopy greyish brownish mess of sludge piled up in a computer chair with sticks for hands typing this.

like think of dusclops but with sticks for hands, maybe with a small branch with a leaf on the end of it. this is you. you fucking goblin.

>>58179751
Desperation.
>$80

Was it here or in /tcg/ where someone mentioned we don't have both Frillish on cards recently? Well we got a new one in pocket

>>58173227
That's not even the cutest Lillie!

I can't afford VaultX binders for all my set collections. Has anyone found good quality, ringless, side-loading, zippered card binders that are 25CAD or less on Amazon Canada or AliExpress or Temu or anything?

>>58180178
>>57979176
That was me in /tcg/, and I was saying it's interesting we've never had a solo female frillish card. Thus far, they've only ever been both or solo male.

New

>>58180301
>>58180301